The World of Ham Radio CD-ROM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:11 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!hgea01.hgea.org!usenet From: Wayne Jones Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 1 Feb 1996 04:05:03 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4epe5f$f3a@hgea01.hgea.org> References: <4ehqbt$o03@olympus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp70.hgea.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) William Vaughn wrote: >I am curious if there is any interest out there in a sperate newsgroup >aimed at ARES RACES operations. Something like rec.radio.amateur.emcomm >or something like that. Please email me with your response, if there is >enough interest I will take the initiative and jump through the hoops to >get it going. > I would like to see one and I will pass the word to my RACES organization if such a group is set up. Aloha Wayne, NH6GJ Communications Officer Oahu Civil Defense Agency From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:12 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.us.world.net!tech.cftnet.com!ns2.mainstreet.net!news1.isp.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!ppp97.cac.psu.edu!cwm3 From: cwm3@psu.edu (Charles McMullen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HELP with FBB v5.15c problem Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:03:32 GMT Organization: CAC Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp97.cac.psu.edu X-Authinfo-User: cwm3@psu.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Hi and thanks for reading this. I recently upgraded the W3YA packet BBS from v5.15 to v5.15c of the F6FBB software. The problems I'm having are as follows: 1. When anybody replies to a message using the SR command, the system generates a Ping-Pong warning message to the SYSOP. 2. The Multi server kills messages addressed to it or to names that have .DAT files associated with them but it doesn't make copies addressed to the intended recipiants. Neither of these were problems before the upgrade. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail replys to cwm3@psu.edu. Thanks, Chuck - K3CM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:14 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!purdue!yuma!usenet From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 10:12:49 -0800 Organization: Me be organized, hahaha :) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <311102A1.44F@lamar.colostate.edu> References: <02b_9601312202@woodybbs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shakers.physics.colostate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win16; I) To: "Robellio%12:250/104" <"Robellio%12:250/104"> Robellio%12:250/104 wrote: > > can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one) > is there anyone who has one they want to sell me > JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have 800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?). ttfn fiz (KG0YG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!purdue!yuma!usenet From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 10:13:04 -0800 Organization: Me be organized, hahaha :) Lines: 11 Message-ID: <311102B0.1594@lamar.colostate.edu> References: <02b_9601312202@woodybbs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shakers.physics.colostate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win16; I) Robellio%12:250/104 wrote: > > can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one) > is there anyone who has one they want to sell me > JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have 800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?). ttfn fiz (KG0YG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:16 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news2.ee.net!news.ee.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!citi2.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!newshost.vu.nl!cs.vu.nl!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City/Repeater Use Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> <4elgqo$q73@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:20:31 GMT Lines: 45 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:32990 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18873 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24534 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13113 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13948 In <4elgqo$q73@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> sparkfel@primenet.com (Mark Fellhauer) writes: >rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) wrote: >>In <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> Eddie Caffray wri tes: >>> On the 146.85 repeater here in Central NY we had trouble with one user als o. He made it that >>>no one would even monitor the reapeater anymore. The club voted to ban him and we did. The >>>reapeater is a great place to be again. >>How do you manage to effectively ban malicious users from a repeater? >>Of course this problem is known all over the world, but at least over >>here we have not yet found an effective way of stopping them. How do >>you do that? >Go to the Arizona Repeater Association's Home Page to see how this is >done. It involves actively pursuing people who engage in such >activity. The ARA, as a matter of routine, has an interference >committee dedicated to tracking these people down. >Despite reports to the contrary, the FCC does frown on this activity, >and will enforce sanctions. Just ask the people here in Phoenix about >that. An NAL, Notice of Apparant Liability, carries a stiff monetary >fine, about $20,000 (US) worth and forfeiture of ALL broadcasting >equipment and license(s). Hmmm... it looks like HDTP (or equivalent of the FCC) does not put out such drastic sanctions. Normally one will lose the license for a year or so, and one could get a fine of maybe $500. This does not seem to stop some people... when you have been reading the BBSes, you can see that the wellknown person that causes havoc on the local packet network is still active. He is fully known by name, ex-callsign, and address. (he just uses callsigns of other people, mainly VERON officials, to post offensive messages. he was also active on the phone repeater sometime, transmitting over those same people, but I think he has lost interest in that) Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:18 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news2.ee.net!news.ee.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!citi2.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!newshost.vu.nl!cs.vu.nl!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:22:49 GMT Lines: 23 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:32994 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18882 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24545 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13120 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13951 In dbaker@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Donald I. Baker) writes: >Technical solutions do exist. Using a "TX-ID" board, which uniquely >fingerprints each transmitter and a PC one can "slectively" include or >preclude individual users. >The board was not meant for that purpose, but with just a little Basic of C >codes, it workd just fine. It is especially easy if you have a single or >limited number of receive site. Is that using some public key encryption technique? If not, what is preventing the malicious from cloning one of the apparently valid codes? Also, what is preventing the malicious user from just keying up over other people's transmissions, thus rendering the repeater useless? Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:18 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: mparkes@aol.com (Mparkes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Does Winlink support HF/VHF X-connect? Date: 1 Feb 1996 10:25:59 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4eqm27$kqm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: mparkes@aol.com (Mparkes) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I am trying to setup a pactor HF to VHF packet gateway/node and am considering using Winlink to do it. Does it offer this capability ? Any help, advice is appreciated! Mike KS4DA From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:20 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news2.ee.net!news.ee.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!citi2.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!newshost.vu.nl!cs.vu.nl!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY? Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4e8ptg$1pg@news.radio.org> <4edu3k$stj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan28.202728.8519@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4ek6t8$gp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4eo6fu$baj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:32:20 GMT Lines: 46 In <4eo6fu$baj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> "Dana H. Myers" w rites: >>Why would you want the state machine DCD when you already have a >>good RF-sensed carrier indication? >The RF-sensed carrier detect may not be sensitive enough to consistently >indicate a carrier even when a signal is present at adequate quieting >to be demodulated by the modem. This is very unlikely for the AFSK-FM system that the state machine DCD is usually used for. A noise detection circuit (like used in most transceiver squelch circuits, only with shorter time constants) detects the carrier way before it can be AFSK demodulated using commonly used MODEM chips. >>The point in having multiple modes is to allow the use of older, slower, >>equipment (at least temporarily) until everyone has moved to the >>highest supported speed. >>It is not very sensible to require everyone to have multiple DCD's >>installed. When everyone had to modify his equipment, you could just >>as well only implement the highest speed and let everyone use just that. >That's true, but the fact is that it isn't very sensible to attempt to >share a frequency between multiple modes in the first place. People >do it, but it is always less than optimal. It depends on how you define "optimal". When cost and bandplanning are also taken into account, it may well be better than running multiple modes on different frequencies, and "optimal" given the restrictions. (over here, all packet channels are in a single 400 KHz band segment on 70cm, and it is thus quite unpractical to run two systems on two different frequencies at a single site. also, many groups just don't have the cash available to set it up, when it would be possible. under these circumstances, running 1200 plus some higher speed on a single channel is better than running 1200 alone. it provides a migration path, and 1200 can be turned off at some time, as has been done at several sites now. this would not have been easily accepted when the 1200 mode was just replaced by something faster on one day) Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news2.ee.net!news.ee.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!citi2.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!newshost.vu.nl!cs.vu.nl!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY? Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4e8ptg$1pg@news.radio.org> <4edu3k$stj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan28.202728.8519@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4ek6t8$gp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan31.174115.24979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:36:05 GMT Lines: 21 In <1996Jan31.174115.24979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman ) writes: >And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse. >It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel. >Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't >sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel. Fortunately, most idiots can be convinced to rip out the "DCD mod" or "software DCD" or whatever they have by just slamming their signal with enough power at higher speeds so that they see the disadvantage themselves. As explained before, the only alternative to running multiple speeds is to use only 1200, and that is certainly the worst of all. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:22 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news.uni-mainz.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!News.Uni-Marburg.DE!pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de!ulf From: ulf@pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de (Ulf Rimkus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Atari ST tcpip software?? Date: 1 Feb 1996 16:11:57 GMT Organization: Fb. Psychologie, Uni Marburg Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4eqooe$294@surz03fi.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> References: <4e53t2$t7b@bbcnews.rd.bbc.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Boyer (boyer@rd.bbc.co.uk) wrote: : Does anyone of any tcpip software for the Atari ST? : Regards John B : : internet: john.boyer@rd.bbc.co.uk : packet: g0wrx@g0wrx.ampr.org (44.131.244.84) : home page: http://www.bbc.co.uk/john_wxpics/index.html Well, there is KA9Q, PE1CHL and JNOS for the Atari ST. 73's de Ulf -- "Es gibt solche Tage. Jeder, den man trifft, hat eine Macke. Allmaehlich faengt man an, sich im Spiegel zu betrachten und zu gruebeln." Raymond Chandler, "Die kleine Schwester" **************************** Addresses ***************************** Linux-Box: ulf@pc0435.psychologie.uni-marburg.de RS6k : rimkusul@papin.hrz.uni-marburg.de Ham-Radio: db1om@db0oca.ampr.org ********************************************************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:24 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HamCom Experience Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:32:39 GMT Organization: vk7kob Lines: 45 Message-ID: <3110dd58.7464143@canberra.dialix.oz.au> References: Reply-To: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au On Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:44:16 MST, kd7s@valleynet.com (Bill Jones) wrote: >I recently downloaded a copy of HamCom (version 3.0) and am impressed with it s >elegance and feature-rich menu. Although I have been a ham for 41 years, I >have no prior experience with any of the digital modes such as RTTY and >AMTOR. I have been a CW operator exclusively. Is HamCom a good way for an >old geezer to get his feet wet? Any experience with this software, both pro >and con, would be appreciated. Hi Bill! Yes, us old geezers should help each other (licensed mid 1966). Can't help a lot with actual HAMCOMM but having had it on my VDU screen a couple of times, I'm fairly impressed..........!! BUT (!!!) the nice thing about the very simple 741 op-amp modem circuit you get with the software is that the same darn thung can be used without modification to send and receive Slow Scan TV using JVFAX vers 7.00. And in full color on your VDU screen. Just listen on 14.230 most days and hear the SSTV guys chatting and SSTV'ing away to each other sending pictures of themselves, their QTH's, their wives and their rigs. Nice stuff, Bill. JVFAX uses exactly the same HAMCOMM modem and wiring. Just load it, configure it and watch all da' pretty piccies........ I am not there, transmitting, (YET) as my class of Australian ham license doesn't permit operation in the 20 meter ham band but do listen a watch the pretty SSTV stuff. Hope you have fun, Best 73's Bob. ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@canberra.DIALix.oz.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:26 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Getting Internet Access via Packet/HAM Radio Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:32:53 GMT Organization: vk7kob Lines: 93 Message-ID: <3110e038.8200762@canberra.dialix.oz.au> References: <4ehcup$oiq@tesla.netline.net> Reply-To: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au On 28 Jan 1996 21:55:21 -0500, kmfdm@netline.net (Lorrin Harringeton) wrote: Hi Lorrin! Well, in answer to your question, there are, in most countries due to international law, some problems on allowing unlicensed non-amateurs access to packet radio or to ANY amateur radio frequencies by ANY mode whether it be Packet Radio or whatever. The Administrations (Governments) of the world have agreed, in Geneva, Switzerland, that a formal qualification in Amateur Radio shall be required BEFORE allowing transmission on any of the ham Bands. Besides, if you're accessing the hambands by phone or by whatever other means you WILL require an Amateur Radio Callsign issued legally by the proper adminstration in your country. Try going on air without one of those or with a bogus one and you'll get, generally, the very Cold Shoulder Treatment from the Amateur Operators around the world. Plus the fact that, in most countries, the amateurs are licensed to have communications ONLY with other licensed amateurs and, to allow you on air, directly or indirectly, by phone or by direct operation of amateur equipment, will be asking the guys you're contemplating contact with to breach the terms of THEIR own licences and risking a heavy fine or jail for yourself.............. (In Australia, its $10,000 or six months jail is you go on air without a licence....) It IS the ONLY hobby in the world for which you need a government license.......... Its the ONLY hobby in the world for which governments have had to make special international treaties.. There it is, looks like you'll need to do the study in radio and electronics, do the ham exam in your country and get a valid callsign then play to your heart's content. Contact the Licensing Authority in your country and they'll no doubt guide you to a place where you can get the required study and the examinations in the theory to get on air. Sorry if this souds a bit pompous above but the guys worked very hard for their licences and probably will give you a hard time if you attempt to get on air without doin' the study and the legal bits as well. The FCC in the States is the Authority there and, similarly, in Australia, its the Spectrum Management Authority, not that the lastmentioned is likely to be of much help to you if you live elsewhere. There WILL be an appropriate Governmental Authority in YOUR country. Just look 'em up in the telephone directory. They often have licensed amateur operators on their staff who will be PLEASED to assist you........ If I can help (if the pompous stuff above or the size of the task doesn't deter you), please email me direct as per the .sig lines below... Best 73's de Bob. >I'm an avid Internet freak (Also a Linux addict) using a 14.4 baud link >on my /only/ phone line. Now this isn't my only phone line to due to $ >restraints, just because my father will not get another phone line. I >constantly get yelled at for being on the net (tieing up the phone line) >and are looking for alternatives. I was told about Packet Radio from a >friend, who knew little accept the fact that it exists. I don't have a >HAM amatuer license, but if need be, I can study and attain one. But i'm >looking for internet access alternatives and will do almost ANYTHING to >get on the net via Packet Radio. I just need to aska few questions: > >1) What hardware do I need >2) What are the highest speeds >3) What is the cost >4) What is the availability > >I live in southwest Florida, in a county of 100,000 people. I just want >to get internet access without tieing up the phone line. Can someone >please point me to a FAQ or URL with information torwards my goal. > > >Thanks and if possible could you reply via e-mail because I'm no good at >weeding through usenet ;) > > ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@canberra.DIALix.oz.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:27 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages??? Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 16:33:05 GMT Organization: vk7kob Lines: 42 Message-ID: <3110e826.10230565@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Reply-To: vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au Hi to all! I am the proud owner of a new Kantronics KPC9612 TNC and am having problems in getting it to operate in KISS mode for JNOS110 or whatever else requires KISS mode for packet (BPQ code for example) It operates wonderfully in standard AX25 mode but NOT in KISS mode. Have given it the commands:- INTFACE KISS RESET and that doesn't wanna work. I tried giving it the command INTFACE TERM INTFACE KISS RESET (in KAM units, the RESET command just does a software reset whilst the command RESTORE DEFAULTS does what a RESET in other TNC's does). Anyway, I was hoping that some kind soul out there in INTERNET land might know an email address for Mr Kantronics or his http://www.xxx.xxx page/s if he has one so I can write him and pick his brains thataway. Any ideas youve got re my problem would be most definitely appreciated. Email me at the address below. Thanks, Best 73's de Bob ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@canberra.DIALix.oz.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:28 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!realtime.net!nntp4.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!snooze.ser.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!nntp2.cerf.net!news.claremont.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: BMOERS%HYDRA@hub.qgraph.COM (Brad Moersfelder - Quad Tech Imaging R&D at 7869) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: What's mysterious FSK protocol on HF? Date: 1 Feb 96 16:42:36 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 6 Message-ID: <01I0P4ET29HU004VYA@hub.qgraph.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On the HF bands I have run into a lot of 75 baud, 850 Hz shift digital protocol thats not BAUDOT, ASCII, TOR, Packet, etc (any of the common ham protocols). It appears to be a synchronous protocol. Does any one know more about these signals, ie protocol, and content? Brad From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:29 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com!usenet From: 156kay@usa.pipeline.com(Rich B.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Hamcom Date: 1 Feb 1996 16:51:59 GMT Organization: Pipeline USA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4eqr3f$nau@news1.usa.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe3.h1.usa.pipeline.com X-PipeUser: 156kay X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (Rich B.) X-Newsreader: Pipeline USA v3.4.0 Where can i locate Hamcom software for the PC. KC2UM 156kay@usa.pipeline.com Email -- Rich B. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:30 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news.sprintlink.net!everest.pinn.net!everest!pridgent From: pridgent@pinn.net (Terry Pridgen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PK232 Operator Manual Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:52:29 GMT Organization: Pinnacle Online - Internet access for Hampton Roads, Virginia - 490-4509 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4equkt$pbo@everest.pinn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: everest.pinn.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Looking for a copy of a PK232 operator manual. I plan to purchase a data controller in the future but would first like to learn about the 232 and others. Please respond directly to my Email address. 73 KC4YTF pridgent@pinn.net -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:31 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-dc.gsl.net!news-paris.gsl.net!news-lond.gsl.net!Tagada.grolier.fr!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Alan A. Tabourian <71203.1307@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet radio Projects... new advances research Date: 1 Feb 1996 17:56:11 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4equrr$f15$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: <1996Jan31.180240.25133@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Hello Gary, You mentionned that a 56kbs modem is available off-the-shelf from PacCom. Do you have their telephone number. I would like to get in touch with them. Can you copy me in directly in addition to posting it on the net. I have trouble accessing usenet at time. Many thanks, Alan Tabourian 71203.1307@compuserve.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:32 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.us.world.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: New on packet. A few questions. Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:43:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4er55u$6vg@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdx-ca11-10.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 01 11:43:58 AM PST 1996 I don't use packet very often. Mostly I just check into the local DX Cluster to see what's going on. I have a few questions about using packet in general. 1. When I long into a BBS via packet, it is very slow. Sometime it can take ten or fifteen minutes just to write a screen full of data on the screen. The BBS offers several text files for downloading, but if I take the time to download any of them, I will be on the board for hours. Now, if everyone is in the same boat, no big deal. But I always wonder if there is something wrong with my system, and that I'll tie up the BBS and the packet freq. if I try to download. 2. Is it allowed to link up several digipeaters? I have heard that more than a couple linked up really hogs the frequency, but I have also heard of people linking up dozens of digipeaters to see how far they can get, or to get into systems with special features. 3. I use Baycom, and I would like to buy a standard TNC and software to replace it if it will make a difference in the response time. I have heard Baycom works just as well as the others, just not as many features. Is this true? Thanks for your comments. Dan From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:33 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.comm.net!imci3!imci4!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!waikato!taranaki!usenet From: Jim Irving Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: sstv program please Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:54:01 GMT Organization: New Zealand Online Lines: 1 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4er999$8sf@tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp23.taranaki.ac.nz X-Newsreader: From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:34 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bison.alfred.edu!kato.theramp.net!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!yee From: yee@mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Linux and packet. Date: 02 Feb 1996 00:13:41 GMT Organization: Medical Image Processing Group, U of Penn Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: picard.mipg.upenn.edu I am currently interested in getting into packet using my Linux box. What is the cheapest way to get onto packet wrt the TNC? Does a TNC exist that is KISS mode only? Is it safe to assume that the vast majority of packet in the US is 1200 or should I plan on getting a 9600 TNC? 73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ -- | 73 de Conway Yee, N2JWQ | DON'T | EMAIL : yee@mipg.upenn.edu | TREAD | TELEPHONE : | ON | FAX : | ME! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:35 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!usenet From: Charles Bolland Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap;,rec.radio.amateur.antenna;,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Radio Broadcasting Database program Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 02:20:55 +0000 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 20 Message-ID: <31117507.53EF@flinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wpb54.flinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b4 (Win95; I) Friend, Freebie - a full function stand alone IBM compatible Radio Station database program to anyone who is interested. Contains 4,000 plus records. Sorts by name, freq, time, language, country, continent. To get it send you POSTAL ADDRESS as well as you EMAIL address for registration. The program will be sent back to you within 24 hours via EMAIL. I may contact you(only me) in the future via Post with information on other programs available. Please send your request to chuck@flinet.com. Hope to hear from you Chuck Bolland P.O. Box 18402 West Palm Beach, FL 33416 KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:37 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!news From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate Subject: February edition of Ham Radio Online available on the Net Date: 2 Feb 1996 03:27:46 GMT Organization: Virtual Publishing Co. Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4es0bi$nb@news.accessone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vbook.accessone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:97617 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32951 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13911 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24455 rec.radio.scanner:44858 rec.radio.shortwave:69567 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18827 alt.radio.scanner:27128 alt.radio.pirate:13346 The February 1996 edition of Ham Radio Online is available at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm New articles are available now and we will be adding 1 to 2 new articles each week. Ham Radio Online has up-to-date news about Amateur Radio from around the world , feature stories, real-time propagation and auroral condition reports, real-tim e earthquake and severe weather conditions for emergency communications planning , online humor section and the Ham Radio Online Library with fully indexed (find any section with just a mouse click) Part 97 rules and regulations. And we plan to offer some totally cool new services during the coming month. A s always its free and free of ads. Thanks to you, we had over 10,000 readers stop by during January! Please enjoy! 73, Ed Mitchell KF7VY vbook@vbook.com http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:37 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.localnet.com!ub!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!cornellcs!rochester!udel!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!miwok!pacific.net!usenet From: "Mr. Brooke Clarke" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: signal processing boards for the PC? Date: 2 Feb 1996 06:05:56 GMT Organization: Rack and Stack Systems Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4es9k4$hpo@pacific.pacific.net> References: <4emab1$kct@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts-47.pacific.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 16bit) I have the same question. Some time ago I found a Creative Labs developer group that required an admission fee, then would make available software, but I could not find out what software I might get after I joined. I never joined. If you find out let me know. It is possible to record a signal and then go back using software like WAVE from turtle beach and do time domain editing and/or filtering. They have a multipole digital filter. Have Fun, Brooke From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!imci5!suck-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!utnut!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca!sba3020 From: sba3020@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Carl Hodder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: R1 mod wanted Date: 2 Feb 1996 06:45:16 GMT Organization: St. John's InfoNET Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4esbts$qoh@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: infonet.st-johns.nf.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Looking for the Icom R1 800 MHz mod. Heard of the 800 MHz of the R7100 but not the R1. E-mail 3020@infonet.st-johns.nf.ca Thanks, Carl. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:39 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!ns2.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (S. Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ?? Novell ethernet cards under NOS? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 08:32:19 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <28Zlj4$00s@anilss1.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc120.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] anilss1@ibm.net writes: >A friend is trying to get a Novell ethernet card working under nos. It is mad e by >Anthem (Assy. *810-160-00x) and is setup as per the NetWare Installation >Supplement. The cards work fine under Windoze. >He is using the folloing batch file line to load the driver: >ne1000 0x60 2 0x340 >and this under nos: >attach packet 0x60 ec0 8 1500 >The problem which he is having is that it comes up with Failed RX upcalls whe n >recieving packets. Does anyone know what might be causing the problem? I assume you are running NOS as a Windows application. If so, you need to als o run winpkt (or whatever it's called, I forget) or possibly the -w flag on driver load. What this does is move the driver to high memory, instead of having it floatin g all over the place as Windows pages. Just a guess... From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:40 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!caen!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!idir.net!usenet From: medcalf@idir.net (Karl Medcalf (WK5M)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: tnc cable for HTX-202? Date: 2 Feb 1996 13:18:49 GMT Organization: Internet Direct Communications - Lawrence, Ks - (913) 841-2220 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <4et2vp$ubf@sequoia.idir.net> References: <4esa3g$4lj@everest.iserv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: port4.idtslw1.idir.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <4esa3g$4lj@everest.iserv.net>, pete@grfn.org says... > >Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but... > >Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable? > >HTX-202 has > >MIC TIP >MIC > >SPK TIP >SPK > >------ >TNC has > >PTT >AF OUT (to mic in) >AF IN (to recvr spkr) >GND > >------------- > >The tnc is a Heath HK-21 pocket packet. > >Pete, the electronics neophyte. > > Hello Pete. Check out the TNC-Radio wiring diagrams at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/ The HK-21 is there as is the HTX-202 and many others. -- 73, Karl Internet: medcalf@idir.net Packet: WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM ***** The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not ***** ***** necessarily reflect those of my employer! ***** From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:42 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion Date: 2 Feb 1996 13:24:19 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4et3a3$pc6@news.halcyon.com> References: <4eh6q2$f1t@sundog.tiac.net> <4eqgaq$a01@reader2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm2-ip5.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) With most Amateur radio equipment today the problem is not poor decoupling but the accessory input is high impedance, this provided no loading and no path to ground for thr prevailing RF that is in the radio room. Using the mic input which is usually 600 ohms or FSK connections are the prefered methods of connnecting external devices. Some times you might try a matching transformer in the audio circuit it hekps on Yaesus radios. The 600 ohm mic input generally willlprovide a sufficent load to the incoming TNC audio, and inpressed RF will usually go to ground. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:43 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!consolidated.ccinet.net!usenet From: mwalkdba@ezl.com (Mark Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HamCom Experience Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 14:27:38 GMT Organization: Consolidated Communications Incorporated Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4et6h0$236@consolidated.ccinet.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3.ezl.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 kd7s@valleynet.com (Bill Jones) wrote: >I recently downloaded a copy of HamCom (version 3.0) and am impressed with it s >elegance and feature-rich menu. Although I have been a ham for 41 years, I >have no prior experience with any of the digital modes such as RTTY and >AMTOR. I have been a CW operator exclusively. Is HamCom a good way for an >old geezer to get his feet wet? Any experience with this software, both pro >and con, would be appreciated. Hi Bill. Did you get the email response I sent to you? Fairly detailed response. Hamcomm works VERY well. The key is filtering. Without tight filtering, it won't work - period. Using a 270 hz filter, it gives nearly perfect copy, almost as good as my tu. If you have to build an audio-type filter, I would recommend you skip the op-amp designs and go to an SCF chip like the Nat. Semiconductor MF10. I can send you the data sheet if you want it (abt 15 pages, adobe format). You have my email address and phone number, please feel free to get in touch with me. A month ago, I was where you are right now. 73, Mark (N9HCI) mwalkdba@ezl.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:46 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: White Pages Server Date: 2 Feb 96 15:01:33 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hello All, I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was a while back. Thanks for you help. 73 de N0KTB -- Adam ayoung@ksu.ksu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:47 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!matlock.mindspring.com!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!news-2.csn.net!usenet From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages??? Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:08:06 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4et9cm$4a4@news-2.csn.net> References: <3110e826.10230565@canberra.dialix.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.25.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <3110e826.10230565@canberra.dialix.oz.au>, >Anyway, I was hoping that some kind soul out there in INTERNET land >might know an email address for Mr Kantronics http://www.kantronics.com/ -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA email: stan@mutadv.com KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!thunder.mgl.ca!granite.sentex.net!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.u.washington.edu!bank3.u.washington.edu!mbunney From: mbunney@bank3.u.washington.edu (Mike Bunney) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNC/Comm Port problem Date: 2 Feb 1996 15:34:36 GMT Organization: University of Washington Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4etauc$cc5@nntp4.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bank3.u.washington.edu Keywords: Help!! X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] My PK-96(TNC) has recently stopped communicating with the comm port on my 286 desktop. Now when I turn my TNC on, my cursor moves over one space instead of displaying the welcome message that scrolls onto the screen. I have checked cables, comm boards, port settings, etc. I did take the TNC to work and connect it to one of the computers there and it worked just fine. I tried another computer and it failed on that one. The only common thread to the comm boards that failed was the UARL chip set. The TNC seems to work fine on the "16550's" but fails on the "8250" chip. Has anyone experienced a similar problem? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Bunney Mail Stop: Box 354844 FMS Manager Phone: 685-1508 Physical Plant Dept. Fax: 685-4053 University of Washington E-Mail: mbunney@u.washington.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:50 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!inquo!news.uoregon.edu!waikato!comp.vuw.ac.nz!Hermes.grace.irl.cri.nz!frc.niwa.cri.nz!news From: wk@muscle.niwa.cri.nz (Wilbert Knol) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HamCom Experience Date: 02 Feb 1996 16:47:58 +1300 Organization: NIWA Fisheries Research, Wellington, NZ. Lines: 29 Sender: wk@muscle.niwa.cri.nz Message-ID: References: <4epppo$q3f@sirius.intxpress.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: muscle.niwa.cri.nz In-reply-to: stevek@chch.planet.org.nz's message of 1 Feb 1996 07:23:36 GMT X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.1 Stevek@chch.planet.org.nz (Steve Kelly) wrote: >I built the modem as per the circuit that came with the HamCom software >and found that it was almost useless.Using a single opamp to change a signal >to a square wave especially on hf is not the way to go.I have since seen an >update to this circuit but have not tried it myself.Prehaps this modem was >included so people could evaluate the software.I understand the genuine modem >(as supplied by HamCom?) is a little more sophisticated.Has anyone else been >down this road? I have had no trouble with the HAMCOM interface at all. Check the power supply levels to make sure the handshake lines in the serial port have the muscle to supply the OPAMP (I used the TL071). It is quite possible to destroy OPMAMPs by taking inputs beyond the supply levels. Since it is used in open loop mode, rather like a comperator, you shouldn't have to use much RX audio at all to get it to work, the ACC socket on the IC725 drives it nicely. HAMCOM 3.0 is going great, with the exception of CW (use your ears). Definetely the way to get started on RTTY and ANTOR in my opinion. Or you could try your hand at HF weather fax with JVFAX 7.1. Wilbert, ZL2BSJ -- Wilbert Knol, ZL2BSJ, Acoustics Group NIWA (Marine Research) Wellington, New Zealand. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:51 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!twizzler.callamer.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNC/Comm Port problem Date: 2 Feb 1996 16:52:49 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <4etfh1$28k@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4etauc$cc5@nntp4.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Keywords: Help!! In article <4etauc$cc5@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, Mike Bunney wrote: >My PK-96(TNC) has recently stopped communicating with the comm port on my >286 desktop. Now when I turn my TNC on, my cursor moves over one space >instead of displaying the welcome message that scrolls onto the screen. >I have checked cables, comm boards, port settings, etc. I did take the >TNC to work and connect it to one of the computers there and it worked >just fine. I tried another computer and it failed on that one. The only >common thread to the comm boards that failed was the UARL chip set. The >TNC seems to work fine on the "16550's" but fails on the "8250" chip. >Has anyone experienced a similar problem? > >Mike Bunney Hi Mike. First check the i/o baud rate in the TNC, if it is over 9600, it will not work thru an UART 8250...maximum is 9600. If it is set to 9600, and you have a DOS machine, type "MODE COM1: 9600,E,7,1" then enter. This will let DOS configure the port...in this case...to 9600 baud with even parity, 7 data bits, and 1 stop bit(s). All I can think of...hope it helps, & good luck. :) -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:52 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!matlock.mindspring.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HELP! Wireless networking! Message-ID: <1996Feb2.165250.5105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4eohhr$c3r@ursa.smsu.edu> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:52:50 GMT Lines: 42 In article <4eohhr$c3r@ursa.smsu.edu> srl968s@nic.smsu.edu (Lin Shawn R) write s: >Hi! I know nothing about amateur radio but I recently read about "packet >radio". All I really know about it is it's typically only about 1200 >baud and functions kind of like a modem but instead of using the phone >lines it uses airwaves. I am VERY interested in this because I have two >computers, one at my girlfriend's apartment about 3.6 miles away and I >want to network them together. ISDN is WAY too expensive, and dedicated >phone line costs rack up. Wireless networking sounds like a really cool >thing to do... can I do it with packet radio? I am needing something >that is full-duplex (asynchronous)... or at least looks like full-duplex >to the computer, and it needs to support some kind of networking scheme, >like TCP/IP (which I've read packet radio can do). Most importantly, I >need a MINIMUM speed of 14.4k to be tolerable, preferably faster if >possible. Is this possible? If so, what are the costs of all the >equipment and other stuff? What are the drawbacks? Benefits (besides >being wireless)? Please let me know! I am very excited about the >possiblity of a wireless connection. Yes, you can run TCP/IP over packet, and yes you can better telco 14.4kb throughput with the WA4DSY 56 kb RF modem. The effective throughput is about 4 kilobytes a second, IE about equal to a 28.8 kb telco link. Unfortunately, the cost of two stations is going to run about $1200. You could do 9600 baud *half* duplex for less, around $800 for two stations, but effective throughput is similar to 2400 baud duplex telco modems. I expect operating over the telco lines is going to be cheaper. It should be a toll free call if the distance is only 3.6 miles, unless you're unfortunate enough to be located across a toll boundary, or are stuck with metered service. Otherwise you're just looking at $22 a month for a dialup line at each end and a pair of telco modems (28.8kb telco modems are now as cheap as $149 each). You don't need a dedicated pair, that gets expensive. Just use a dial up and leave it dialed up, or set it up to dial on demand. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:53 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.frontiernet.net!Empire.Net!news.net99.net!news.corpcomm.net!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.deltanet.com!usenet From: "Thomas M. Allen" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNC2 PCB layouts Date: 2 Feb 1996 19:21:40 GMT Organization: Thank You, but no. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4eto84$7ft@news2.deltanet.com> References: <4eqgj1$eth@netty.york.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: ana0020.deltanet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) djl102@unix.york.ac.uk (David J Linsley) wrote: >does anyone know where I can get images of the pcb layouts for a tnc2 eg >a BSX2, G8STW, TNC2DL etc? I thought I had seen them posted at the tapr site (www.tapr.org). If not there, then available by mail. -------------------------------------- Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:54 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ionews.ionet.net!usenet From: Hank Blackstock Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: sstv program please Date: 2 Feb 1996 20:41:56 GMT Organization: IONet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4etsuk$t9d@ionews.ionet.net> References: <4er999$8sf@tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: osip06.ionet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) To: Jim Type SSTV in a search engine in your web browser and you will find more sstv programs than you can ever use. 73 Hank WA5JRH From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:55 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!etprs!joopv From: joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY? Date: 2 Feb 1996 21:49:00 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4eu0sc$r2u@tuegate.tue.nl> References: <4e8ptg$1pg@news.radio.org> <4edu3k$stj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan28.202728.8519@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4ek6t8$gp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan31.174115.24979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: etprs.phys.tue.nl X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse. > It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel. > Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't > sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel. > Gary Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz. Sharing modes is the only way. An idiot using a 1200 bd TNC which only detects 1200 bs traffic is not only antisocial, but also illegal : there is a big chance he is distubing other traffic. Most packet operators keep the audio switched off. What if by some glitch the transmitter turns to the local phone chat frequency and goes on transmitting over a current conversation ? Joop, pe1dna From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:56 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!matlock.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: dblanco@ibm.net (Carlos Blanco) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: INFORMATION about TNC's Equipments (Maximun Speed) Date: 2 Feb 1996 22:13:32 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4eu2ac$lls@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-41-253.ut.nl.ibm.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ From: dblanco@ibm.net (Carlos Blanco) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: INFORMATION REQUEST:TNC Maximun speed & availability Organization: X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Please, I need to Know about TNC's maximun speed, Types & models, and prices. Also where I can buy them. It's possible to find a 19200 or 28800 TNC packet modem for 2m or 430MHz? Thanks,Carlos EB1DRN From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:57 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!xara.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!news From: Hans Devreij Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What's mysterious FSK protocol on HF? Date: 2 Feb 1996 22:47:31 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4eu4a3$9di@news.Belgium.EU.net> References: <01I0P4ET29HU004VYA@hub.qgraph.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup20.brussels2.eunet.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit) To: BMOERS%HYDRA@hub.qgraph.COM Yep, it used to drive me nuts when I started monitoring RTTY. I soon found out this is a scrambled NATO system (typical shifts are 840, 844 or 850 hz). You'll find it all over the HF spectrum and don't even DREAM of getting any legible results. Same applies to many Russian RTTY systems, such as the one with a 81 Baud speed and small shift. You may also come across 75Bd systems with a shift of about 400 Hz which will be legible only some of the time (fregs a.o. 7804, 9044). This is a diplomatic network; scrambled messages are preceded my a string of numbers followed by xyxyxyxy, xpxpxpxp or other 'x' strings, after which the scrambling begins. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:58 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.frontiernet.net!Empire.Net!news.net99.net!news.igc.net!news.zynet.com!ez0!pagesat.net!news.cerf.net!newsserver.sdsc.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ub!csn!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: Daniel Blanco Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNCs INFORMATION NEEDED !!!!! Date: 2 Feb 1996 23:10:48 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4eu5lp$11oc@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-41-253.ut.nl.ibm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: All Please I need to know about TNC's maximum speed, Types,models & Prices. Also, some addresses where I can buy them. It's possible to find a TNC with a baud rate more or equal to 14400 for 144MHz (2m) or 430MHz? Thanks & greetings .... Carlos from Spain Please, reply me at dblanco@ibm.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:35:59 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: michaelm@doruk.COM.TR (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What's mysterious FSK protocol on HF? Date: 3 Feb 96 06:30:42 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 16 Message-ID: <9602022232.aa23899@bbs.doruk.com.tr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On 1 Feb 96 BMOERS%HYDRA@hub.qgraph.COM (Brad Moersfelder) wrote: >On the HF bands I have run into a lot of 75 baud, 850 Hz shift digital >protocol thats not BAUDOT, ASCII, TOR, Packet, etc (any of the common >ham protocols). It appears to be a synchronous protocol. Does >any one know more about these signals, ie protocol, and content? What you describe sounds like encrypted (aka 'crypto') military traffic. If so, you can forget about decoding it - it's simply not possible without the correct key and equipment. 73 - de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV) Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye Amateur Packet Radio: TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU Internet (email only): Michael C. McHugh From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: tcm 3105 chip Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <02b_9601312202@woodybbs.com> <311102B0.1594@lamar.colostate.edu> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 07:44:42 GMT Lines: 23 In <311102B0.1594@lamar.colostate.edu> fiz writes: >Robellio%12:250/104 wrote: >> >> can any one help (i do not need an address of where i can get one) >> is there anyone who has one they want to sell me >> >JDR Microdevices. $8.95, no minimum order. The crystal you'll be asking >for next is available from Jameco Electronics ($25 min order?). Both have >800 #'s and both have Web pages (www.jdr.com and www.jameco.com?). It will be interesting to see how long it takes before it becomes a "difficult to get" item, now that TI has taken the device out of production. (at least that was announced to happen last year) Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:02 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!news.iag.net!news.math.psu.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: Getting Internet Access via Packet/HAM Radio Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4ehcup$oiq@tesla.netline.net> <3110e038.8200762@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 10:04:16 GMT Lines: 18 In <3110e038.8200762@canberra.dialix.oz.au> vk7kob.canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robe rt Walker) writes: [explanation about needing a license for amateur radio] >It IS the ONLY hobby in the world for which you need a government >license.......... Maybe in your country, but certainly not in the world. I think there are quite some countries where you need licenses for posessing and using fire arms (shooting, hunting), flying aircraft or balloons, etc. etc. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:03 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zynet.com!not-for-mail From: godeater@thelair.zynet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FAQ, specific to this newsgroup? Date: 3 Feb 1996 11:11:51 -0700 Organization: Zynet SouthWest Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4f08h7$7la@thelair.zynet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: thelair.zynet.com i couldn't find a FAQ for this newsgroup. rtfm.mit.edu has a FAQ for this newsgroup, but it is only a guide to radio groups in general. i've been wanting to learn about radio packet networks for years now, but the info is somewhat arcane, and i see no resources for the absolute newbie. -- -- d. godeater godeater@zynet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:04 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!news.ptd.net!news From: Dave Skarbowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Linux and Digital modes: my experience Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 12:05:10 -0500 Organization: N2FAM Lines: 29 Message-ID: <311395C6.2BA09FD0@ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs1-09.hol.ptd.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; Linux 1.3.59 i486) From time to time I see messages posted requesting information on terminal pro grams available for Linux. I'd like to start a thread on Linux and packet (or rtty, or anythi ng else to do with Linux and hamradio). So far here is what I have tried: 1. The AX25 kernel support. Works great! I have kernel version 1.3.59 (+pat ch) with all the latest AX25 tools and I must say it works great. We have a local tcp/ip net o n two meters witha POP server for mail. Even Netscape works great for retrieving POP mail over AX25. 2. TNOS. Also works great but just the plain old AX25 tools and AX25 kernel support seems to give me the features I like. I don't want to be a BBS and that's where TNOS s hines. 3. RTTY. This was a tough one. I really like XPKAM under dos for HF RTTY an d Pactor. I couldn't find anything for RTTY in a native Unix port. Enter DOSEMU. I final ly gave in and tried the latest and greatest DOSEMU. It works! XPKAM (and other terminal pr gs) work pretty well under DOSEMU with some trial and error parameter setting. I find I need to set DOSEMU's hogthreshhold to 0. This makes the rest of X slow but still usable. I guess if you run from the Linux prompt this doesn't matter. 4. Could I also run Windows terminal programs? Enter WINE. OK, I have not h ad much success with WINE. Runs solitare real nice but all else is still pretty rough. Shows a lot of promise. I just downloaded the latest source....dated Jan 31, 96. I have yet to give it a try. So, what have you tried? I've got a ton of programs to try on the DOSEMU. Lo g programs, sat tracking programs, etc. I'll try more WINE (after 12:00 pm...but I perfer bee r). I still have to try the PMS that comes with the AX25 tools. There's only so much time in a day to hack... Dave, n2fam From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:06 1996 From: n5owk@msn.com (Steven Sampson) Subject: RE: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal? Date: 3 Feb 96 14:02:41 -0800 References: Message-ID: <00001fec+00001218@msn.com> Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 14 >Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this >program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate >having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtual one!). Just start it the way every other unix is started. In rc.local put in a line like: su - jnos -c nos Just make an account called jnos, and have the files in its home directory. Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:07 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.cris.com!news From: bsbonney@cris.com (Benton StJ Bonney) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 16:04:26 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4f011u$h4l@spectator.cris.com> References: <4ehqbt$o03@olympus.net> <4ejvur$6qp@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc6-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 gerde@gilbreth.ecn.purdue.edu (Carlyle Gerde) wrote: >[...] >[...] MARS currently has a mailing >list but a news group would be better. >73...N9NWO What is the mailing list's name and LISTSERV's address? 73 de Benton, KO4XE/AFA2CJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:08 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: APRS Beacons Message-ID: <1996Feb3.170142.10098@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1.5.4b11.32.19960202160812.00687828@mailbox.arn.net> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:01:42 GMT Lines: 49 In article <1.5.4b11.32.19960202160812.00687828@mailbox.arn.net> grc@arn.NET ( Scott\, G.R. \, Cundiff) writes: >I am interested in getting some feedback from some of you who have been >active on APRS in your area. Several of the local guys are running APRS. >They beacon constantly, like every 10 or 15 minutes. They beacon via WIDE, >APRS, APRSM, GPS, and other paths. They want all the area nodes to be set >up with alternate aliases of WIDE, etc. so their beacons are repeated all >over the country side. > >Now, I understand that these beacons have to happen so their locations will >show up on everyone's APRS maps, but I can't understand why they have to >beacon their house position 4 or more times an hour! Surely their house >isn't going anywhere! For mobile weather spotters, this is a great idea, >but for home operation surely a beacon once every 2 hours (or every 20 years >for that matter! -- just kidding on that one) is often enough. The reason a fixed location needs to beacon is so that new stations coming up on the net will learn the location of the fixed station. Now the question becomes, how long do we want a new station to have to wait before its map is fully updated? Obviously, beaconing once every 20 years is out of the question, is two hours out of the question too? Maybe, if the net is "leaky". Remember, these are UI frames, they can easily be lost or corrupted, so several beacon transmissions may be necessary before there's a reasonable assurance that all monitoring stations on the net have copied it successfully. On a simplex network that extends beyond the local radio horizon, each hop's success probability has to be multiplied by the proability of success for each of the other hops to get a pass thru probability. Suppose each link has a 0.8 probability of success for any given beacon. A net with 4 links will only have a 41% probability of successfully transferring any given beacon. So you'll need slightly more than two attempts to have a reasonable assurance of success. If you want maps to update within a half hour, you'll have to beacon every 15 minutes, if you'll accept a wait of 2 hours to update a new station's map, then beaconing once an hour will do, etc. For a closed network, where all the stations are always present 24x7, fixed stations needn't beacon at all, but that's a rather uninteresting use of APRS. A paper map would do as well. By nature, APRS maps are dynamic, the question becomes how dynamic should they be? I don't have a good answer. I'd suggest "it depends" is probably the only appropriate answer. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:10 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY? Message-ID: <1996Feb3.173153.10240@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4e8ptg$1pg@news.radio.org> <4edu3k$stj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan28.202728.8519@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4ek6t8$gp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan31.174115.24979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4eu0sc$r2u@tuegate.tue.nl> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 1996 17:31:53 GMT Lines: 66 In article <4eu0sc$r2u@tuegate.tue.nl> joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () writes: >> And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse. >> It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel. >> Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't >> sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel. >> Gary > >Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like >only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz. > >Sharing modes is the only way. > >An idiot using a 1200 bd TNC which only detects 1200 bs traffic is not >only antisocial, but also illegal : there is a big chance he is distubing >other traffic. Most packet operators keep the audio switched off. What if >by some glitch the transmitter turns to the local phone chat frequency >and goes on transmitting over a current conversation ? >Joop, pe1dna Yeah, good point, and a reason for RF DCD. But if the transmitter glitches and comes up on the local chat frequency it will still make life miserable for the phone ops since it'll try to send packets between their transmissions. I toyed with a varient of this problem a while back. I had a low usage voice repeater that I wanted to share with 9600 baud packet. Carrier sense was adequate to keep the packet system from transmitting over voice users, but didn't solve the problem of voice users having to listen to the packets, or the problem of voice users transmitting over packets, or the problem of the packet system being held off by the repeater tail. I came up with a scheme using CTCSS so that the voice receivers would be muted when packets were sent, IE voice users used one CTCSS tone, packet stations another, and the repeater regenerated either depending on what was on its input at the time. So if voice users used CTCSS decode on the voice tone, they wouldn't have to hear the packets, which transmitted a different tone. If the voice CTCSS was detected by a packet station, it would honor the carrier sense line and obey the tail. As long as voice users didn't allow the repeater to drop, no packets would be sent that would delay their conversation. But if the packet station detected a packet CTCSS, it could respond immediately on the cessation of the tone, so that the long tail delay didn't slow packet usage of the machine when voice users weren't present. This doesn't address the problem of voice users keying up over a packet, though a decoder could be used on the voice radios to prevent them from keying when a packet CTCSS was detected (I figured that was too clumsy). It does give the voice user priority, which is probably best since voice usage is usually realtime while most of packet operation is not. I eventually gave up on the idea for two reasons. First, voice usage of the repeater became heavier, and second, getting packet operators to install CTCSS and honor it proved to be a difficult political problem. As I mentioned previously, it only takes one non-conforming station to seriously degrade the entire system. (A technical problem was the packet CTCSS tone degrading packet demodulation.) Fortunately, we here in the US *do* have adequate spectrum to segregate various uses on their own channels. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:12 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iol!usenet From: "Tony Clifford, ei9hk" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages??? Date: 3 Feb 1996 18:04:15 GMT Organization: Ireland On-Line Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4f082v$cgo@barnacle.iol.ie> References: <3110e826.10230565@canberra.dialix.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-017.cork.iol.ie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; I; 16bit) To: vk7kob@Canberra.dialix.oz.au Hi Robert, I also have a kp9612 and would be interested in hearing about an em ail address for kantronics. Have u managed to get 9k6 working on it?? I have failed and got no reply to my fax for help.!! Tony ei9hk,Cork,ireland. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:13 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!usenet From: ka1jy@usa.nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 18:30:35 GMT Organization: HamRadio Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: ka1jy@usa.nai.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ka1jy.nai.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum >usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could >use... Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO busy with important stuff and all. Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs though. -be From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:14 1996 From: F_Hoonhout@msn.com (Frank Hoonhout) Subject: RE: Paket for Windows Date: 3 Feb 96 22:20:19 -0800 References: Message-ID: <00001fec+00001223@msn.com> Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 7 If you have a kantronics type unit. You might want to look at kawin http:\\www.mutadv.com\kawin\ Frank... kj7dz fhoonhou@ccf.state.or.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ramlink.net!news From: subich@ramlink.net (Joe Subich) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: White Pages Server Date: 4 Feb 1996 00:26:37 GMT Organization: RAMLink Internet Access Service Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4f0uft$44r@ram2.ramlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hun17.ramlink.net X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.2 UNREGISTERED 2 days remaining] In message - ayoun g @ksu.ksu.EDU writes: :> :>Hello All, :> :>I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the :>nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was :>a while back. Thanks for you help. :> :>73 de N0KTB -- Adam :>ayoung@ksu.ksu.edu :> Good memory! Actually, I haven't supported the White Pages for about two years now. A new job and relocation took me out of the packet forwarding mess. When I shut down operations all of the master WP files were turned over to K1LT who had agreed to continue support for the function. WP @ K1LT.#CMH.OH.USA.NA should get you there ... Unfortunately, at the time I was moving there were a lot of "Global WP Server" pretenders out there and the new lack of discipline in auto- forwarding opeations have only made that situation worse. Some pretend Global WP Servers have even been known to grab inquiries not addresses to them, answer with old or incorrect data, and kill the inquiry! 73 & good luck, ... Joe Subich, AD8I (subich@ramlink.net) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.u.washington.edu!uw-beaver!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!usenet From: moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: White Pages Server Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 01:06:13 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4f10pt$3ff@maureen.teleport.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx08-17.teleport.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU wrote: >Hello All, >I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the >nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that was >a while back. Thanks for you help. For W0RLI style BBS systems (AD8I's replacement) wp@n6iya.ca.usa.noam Dustin Moore moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:16 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!jaxnet.jaxnet.com!usenet From: dbsales@jaxnet.com (Dave Mains) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: North Fla DX Assoc. Home Page Date: 4 Feb 1996 03:22:04 GMT Organization: NO4J Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4f18os$l70@jaxnet.jaxnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts3-009.jaxnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Visit our new home page: http://www.jaxnet.com/nf4l/nfdxa.htm 73's Dave....NO4J From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:17 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.sunbelt.net!sl02-057.sunbelt.net!user From: khinceman@sunbelt.net (Kim A. Hinceman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet BBS Listing needed for SC and NC Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 07:50:38 +0000 Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sl02-057.sunbelt.net I would like to find a listing of packet bbs systems in SC and NC. Any ideas? Tnx, WA4VKW Kim A. Hinceman khinceman@sunbelt.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:19 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!news.ossi.com!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!w6go From: w6go@netcom.com (Jay O'Brien - W6GO) Subject: BPQ - Net/Rom matrix problems Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 08:11:00 GMT Lines: 46 Sender: w6go@netcom11.netcom.com Are you using the VE2BMQ RS-232 Timeout Timer (from Amateur Networking Supply) between a G8BPQ node and a NetRom diode matrix? If so, read on. This may apply to you! The timer does a great job of disconnecting the computer from the matrix either when the computer is not active or if the computer crashes. The timer doesn't protect you from all possible computer failures, however! K6ANP has a "node stack" which provides user connects to a distant PacketCluster node (W6GO). He runs G8BPQ in a local computer to provide a local connect path and for administrative purposes. He uses a VE2BMQ timer. All was working fine until he shut off his computer. Then, nothing would go through his matrix and his TNCs couldn't communicate with each other through his matrix. The computer, when powered down, effectively shorted its data input lead to ground. The diodes in the matrix then clamped the data level to less than a volt, and no data went across the matrix! The VE2BMQ timer protects the matrix from input from the computer, but it doesn't interrupt the lead which carrys data to the computer. You wouldn't want it to! All that was necessary to correct the problem was to place a resistor in series with the data input lead to the computer. Experimentally it was found that 300 ohms (in this particular case) allowed data to pass to the computer and when the computer was off, allowed the data to pass between other TNCs on the matrix. This value works fine even at the K6ANP matrix speed of 38400 bps. A similar test here showed the data level also pulled down, but apparently not enough to be a problem. The situation seems to be hardware specific and may be different for each application. The bottom line is: If you connect a BPQ computer to a NetRom matrix through a VE2BMQ timer, be sure to see what happens to your matrix when the computer is powered down and still connected. You may be suprised! 73, Jay w6go@netcom.com cc:K6ANP N2IRZ (ANS) -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:20 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: sonp@ix.netcom.com (Laz Qadmon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Radio Rock-It , anyone tried it??? Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 12:14:05 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4f3i92$snq@cloner3.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-tf4-20.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Feb 04 4:16:34 PM PST 1996 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99.82 CUE Corp in league with Advanced Digital Systems has implemented a method of receiving National Weather Service weather maps. The FM radio PC card will be capable of receiving an FM subcarrier containing the NWS data for display in graphical form. My question is has anyone tried this? What software is required and where can it be obtained. What model of Rock-It is used to do this? How good a product is Radio Rock-It? 73's Laz From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:21 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!news.asi.fr!news From: Christophe Suarez Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Does Winlink support HF/VHF X-connect? Date: 4 Feb 1996 13:42:59 GMT Organization: Acces et Solutions Internet - Tel: 7893.0000 - Fax: 7893.0099 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4f2d53$2fu@s2.asi.fr> References: <4eqm27$kqm@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp12.asi.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) WinLink is not a real gateway software, it is used to forward messages from HF to VHF/UHF and reciproqually and somebody who links an HF pactor port for example can't link the packet VHF port. Bulletins are shared and can be read from any port. 73 de Chris F5PGP@F5PGP.FRHA.FRA.EU From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!globe.indirect.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Message-ID: <1996Feb4.141714.14973@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 14:17:14 GMT Lines: 80 In article <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> ka1jy@usa.nai.net writes: > >Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines >sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have >a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs >though. Depends. SERA treats a repeater as a repeater (as they should). Whether you want to use it for voice or data is purely the owner's option. Now getting a *new* 2 meter repeater of *any* sort coordinated can be difficult or impossible in some areas, but there's plenty of open coordinations available on other bands. When I originally coordinated my 70 cm machine, it was listed as *mixed* data and voice usage. I later changed that to just voice, but that was *my* decision, not SERA's. There's a 2 meter data repeater here in Atlanta on 146.73 that used to be a voice machine but was converted by its owner to be strictly packet. SERA only coordinates *frequencies* for repeaters, what you use the repeater for is your business. Well, that may be changing a bit. SERA now has pairs set aside strictly for data, no voice machines allowed there. That's a new part of the revised 70 cm bandplan. But as far as I know (and I'm a SERA member) no use of nominally voice pairs for data has ever been denied by SERA. The intent of the new bandplan is to make sure some channels for data repeater use will be available and won't be usurped by voice repeaters. A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA coordinates all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet is a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has traditionally been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State packet organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is allowed to act as coordinator for simplex packet. That's been rather informal in some areas, better formalized in others. The problems of simplex packet coordination are quite a bit different than repeater coordination because of the shared nature of simplex packet channels. In a real sense, every packet user's station is a digipeater. The approach the Georgia packet organization has taken is to authorize LAN frequencies by geography rather than dealing with individual stations. One designated node in each LAN then is authorized to operate on the State 56 kb backbone to relay packets from one LAN to another. That node is selected by the members of the local LAN in consultation with the State group's technical committee. The State group's "members" *are* the local LANs, IE each LAN appoints two representatives to the State group. That works pretty well, and tends to limit users from hopping from one frequency to another, thanks to the geographical separation. They stay put in their LANs and work out-of-LAN stations via the network node in their LAN. That makes issues of routing much easier because the network knows where to find any given station based on cluster routing statements. At least it does if they use TCP/IP, the routers are based on TCP/IP routing. The network nodes require source routing if used for non-TCP/IP traffic, IE the user has to know the path to the other station if he isn't using TCP/IP, the network can't help him with the routing in that case. I added code to Karn's NET (which was the basis of our original router code) that was called "mulport". It attempted to aid the non-TCP/IP user in navigating the State network by allowing him to only include the destination LAN node's call sign in the digipeat field. The network would then route (based on tables) the message from the local LAN to the distant LAN. It worked, but we've abandoned that as too clumsy to maintain. Now the user can use TCP/IP or Netrom routing, or hop from LAN to LAN KAnode style via the AX25 interface of the routers. Our repeater based LANs are using "side mounted" interfaces to the network, IE they have a wired tap from the repeater data stream to a co-located network routing node. That's not necessary, just convienent. The network node could be anywhere in the repeater LAN's coverage and work the same way. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:25 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!news.emf.net!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Kantronics Email or WWW.pages??? Message-ID: <1996Feb4.151456.15334@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <3110e826.10230565@canberra.dialix.oz.au> <4f082v$cgo@barnacle.iol.ie> Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:14:56 GMT Lines: 55 In article <4f082v$cgo@barnacle.iol.ie> "Tony Clifford, ei9hk" writes: >Hi Robert, I also have a kp9612 and would be interested in hearing about an e mail address for >kantronics. Have u managed to get 9k6 working on it?? I have failed and got no reply to my fax >for help.!! The web page for Kantronics is www.kantronics.com, but there isn't much there except Email addresses for sales and support. What *exactly* seems to be the difficulty with 9600 baud? I have the KPC-9612 and it works fine with the *proper radio*. That's the key to 9600 baud success. Most amateur radios just won't work right for 9600 baud packet. Either their Rx bandpass is hosed, or they have poor TR and receiver recovery times, or the PLL loop *cancels* part of the 9600 baud modulation. To work, the radio needs 1) True FM modulation (no phase modulators) 2) No PLL in the modulating loop (crystal control or IF modulation only) 3) Flat phase response in the receive IF filter (usually means a *wider* than stock filter to achieve this since filters get very phase non- linear near their edges) 4) Fast diode switched TR (though reed relays can be fast enough too) 5) Fast receiver recovery (really really important, and often overlooked) 6) A way to tap *directly* into the modulator and demodulator bypassing all audio processing circuits Only a few radios meet these criteria fully. Many that *advertise* 9600 baud capability lack some of these important criteria, and won't actually work properly. A couple that do work properly are the Tekk KS900 and the Azden PCS9600D. The IC820H will sort of work, but you need to open up the IF bandpass for it to work well. Ex-commercial service radios like the Motorola Micor and RCA Tac700 can be adapted to 9600 baud too, though you usually have to open up the IF filtering. GE radios are phase modulated, so you have to fix that to convert them to 9600, but that isn't hard, just use the Channel Guard input. Again, the IF filters are too tight and need to be opened up. In addition to the above, Kantronics and MFJ now offer crystal controlled radios designed specifically for 9600 baud data service. They work well as data radios, but they don't work quite so well as *radios*, IE they croak when put on a high RF site. If you stack enough cavities in front of them, you can usually make them work. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:27 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.neca.com!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!hgoldste From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Linux and Digital modes: my experience Date: 4 Feb 1996 17:45:47 GMT Organization: disorganization Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <311395C6.2BA09FD0@ptd.net> Reply-To: hg@n2wx.ampr.org NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.mpcs.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.5) On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 12:05:10 -0500, Dave Skarbowski wrote: : From time to time I see messages posted requesting information on terminal programs available : for Linux. I'd like to start a thread on Linux and packet (or rtty, or any thing else to do : with Linux and hamradio). So far here is what I have tried: ... For around 6 months I had my linux box attached to a TNC in transparent mode. This is the simplest (albeit least flexible) way to put linux on packet. To make it work for the typicial packet user I had to patch n_tty.c to do the \n to \r conversions. As part of the deal I have everyone's .procmailrc pointing back to my account so I can vet the incoming mails for rules compliance. A couple of weeks ago I replaced linux with FreeBSD on that box, in much the same configuration (except the \n to \r conversion patch was applied to tty.c). It works a little better only because the FreeBSD getty sees the CD transition to TRUE so the login prompt comes up when someone connects. Probably could have done something more sophisticated with mgetty on linux but never got around to it. -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx / From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:28 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gcortevi@ix.netcom.com (Greg Corteville) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Contact for TCP/IP address in Detroit? Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 19:24:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4f3130$bkc@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-war-mi3-05.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Feb 04 11:23:12 AM PST 1996 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I'm trying to figure out who to contact for a TCP/IP address in the Detroit, Michigan area. Also, on what frequency does TCP/IP packet operations normally take place? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Greg Corteville - KB8WFV Internet: gcortevi@nyx10.cs.du.edu SysOp Horizons BBS: (810) 879-7928 From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:31 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.inc.net!imci5!suck-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!primus.ac.net!news.cais.net!news.vbc.net!news.uk0.vbc.net!SoNet!innotts.co.uk!usenet From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Revised Pages for Feb Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 22:31:49 GMT Organization: innotts.co.uk Lines: 20 Message-ID: <31153152.6821704@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: seriald27.innotts.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 I have revised and revamped for Feb: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ to include packet radio amongst other things. The pages have useful links and an enlarged Q and A page. There are useful links and a new IRC link to #HamRadio. Try the other pages too. Thanks to all who have visited so far. I have replied to all e-mail received. It has been very encouraging, Check it out! 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Homepages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:32 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City Date: 4 Feb 1996 23:21:25 -0500 Organization: The Ace Tomato Company Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4f40k5$1q9@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly.ideamation.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:33006 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18905 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24587 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13144 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13971 In dbaker@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Donald I. Baker) writes: >Technical solutions do exist. Using a "TX-ID" board, which uniquely >fingerprints each transmitter and a PC one can "slectively" include or >preclude individual users. > >The board was not meant for that purpose, but with just a little Basic of C >codes, it workd just fine. It is especially easy if you have a single or >limited number of receive site. I too can attest to the helpfulness of the TX-ID system. Coupled with our Doppler Systems DF gear, the TX-ID has allowed us to bag several Drew-like scumbags here in the RI area who have no appreciation for Part 97. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:33 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.comm.net!imci5!suck-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!lamarck.sura.net!mother.usf.edu!ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us!scfn!kwhite From: kwhite@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Ken White) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: packet with commodore 64 Date: 5 Feb 1996 01:36:01 GMT Organization: Suncoast Free-Net Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4f3mu1$7ra@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Is there hardware and software available for running packet on the Commodore 64? I've heard that MFJ makes a TNC and that Digicom64 is the software of choice. Where can I download digicom64? Thanks KE4WIS From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:34 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!phcoms4.seri.philips.nl!news From: lenggen@fasnov1.zrh.sc.philips.com (Markus Lenggenhager) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: Measuring TXDELAY? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 08:08:16 GMT Organization: PHILIPS Semiconductors Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4f4hcp$p23@phcoms4.seri.philips.nl> References: <4e8ptg$1pg@news.radio.org> <4edu3k$stj@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan28.202728.8519@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4ek6t8$gp0@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Jan31.174115.24979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4eu0sc$r2u@tuegate.tue.nl> <1996Feb3.173153.10240@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.146.9.65 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 >In article <4eu0sc$r2u@tuegate.tue.nl> joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () writes: >>> And what's usually happening on the channel is congestive collapse. >>> It's a *very bad* idea to run mixed speeds on the same channel. >>> Some idiot will be running a 1200 baud only TNC, and it won't >>> sense the other speeds, and there goes the channel. >>> Gary >> >>Here in Europe we don't have the resources the USA amateurs have. Like >>only 2 MHz on 144, no 220 MHz, only 10 (6 within some time) MHz at 430 MHz. >> >>Sharing modes is the only way. >> There's a solution to this problem, it's called DAMA! I'm sysop of a TheNet Node digipeater running a dual-speed (1200/9600) user port on UHF, using a single TRX, but of course 2 modems. Works fine for over a year now. Both 1200 and 9600 users are happy with the system. 73, Markus HB9BRJ@HB9AU.CHE.EU From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:35 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!hatch.sonalysts.com!hatch.sonalysts.com!gerheim From: gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Need UTAH for WAS-RTTY Date: 5 Feb 1996 13:10:58 GMT Organization: Sonalysts, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <4f4vl2$mfi@hatch.sonalysts.com> References: <1996Jan25.125536.1@vax.cerritos.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hatch.sonalysts.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Terry Dunlap, AC6EF (dunla004@cerritos.edu) wrote: > Utah is the last state I need for WAS-RTTY. Anyone interested in making > a sked......week-ends better! > Please send any responses via EMAIL. > 73 de Terry AC6EF > dunla004@cerritos.edu Me too! Me too! (Actually, will accept email from UT, WV, DE, VT, and SD also). -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN | I cried because I had | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280 gerheim@sonalysts.com | no shoes till I met a | 215 Parkway North Work: (203)442-4355 | man who had no class. | Waterford CT 06385 *********************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:36 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!consolidated.ccinet.net!usenet From: mwalkdba@ezl.com (Mark Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Where find DOMAIN.TXT for JNOS? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 14:12:04 GMT Organization: Consolidated Communications Incorporated Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4f52no$2b3@consolidated.ccinet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp16.ezl.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Not serious yet about tcp/ip but would like to take a look at jnos. It won't come up, looking for a DOMAIN.TXT . Can't find it on the net. Thanks in advance. Mark Walker (N9HCI) mwalkdba@ezl.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:37 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!g7ltt.demon.co.uk From: Mark A Phillips Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Where find DOMAIN.TXT for JNOS? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 96 18:27:08 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <823544828snz@g7ltt.demon.co.uk> References: <4f52no$2b3@consolidated.ccinet.net> Reply-To: mark@g7ltt.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: g7ltt.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Mail2News-Path: g7ltt.demon.co.uk In article <4f52no$2b3@consolidated.ccinet.net> mwalkdba@ezl.com "Mark Walker" writes: > Not serious yet about tcp/ip but would like to take a look at jnos. > It won't come up, looking for a DOMAIN.TXT . Can't find it on the > net. Thanks in advance. Mark Walker (N9HCI) mwalkdba@ezl.com > > A domain.txt file should be in you jnos directory. It is made up of all your local IP addresses and is referenced when you wish to talk to someone. At the very least you should have your own entry in it eg; g7ltt.ampr.org. IN A 44.131.159.228 This means that the callsign g7ltt (me) has an INternet class A address of 44.131.159.228. speak to your local co-ordinator for a copy. I'd send you mine but it would be less than useless to you in the States. -- Mark A Phillips mark@g7ltt.demon.co.uk g7ltt@g7ltt.ampr.org G7LTT@GB7WIR.#42.GBR.EU From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Feb 05 21:36:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.neca.com!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: fehner@cts.com (Barbara Fehner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: packet with commodore 64 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 21:28:46 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <311670e7.3807391@news2.cts.com> References: <4f3mu1$7ra@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Reply-To: fehner@cts.com NNTP-Posting-Host: fehnercom.cts.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Ken, I have the Digicom programs in my FTP site at: ftp.cts.com/pub/fehner Read the readme text in the directory before downloading the programs. 73's Barbara KK6IB E-Mail: fehner@cts.com ____________________________________________________________ kwhite@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Ken White) wrote: >Is there hardware and software available for running packet on the >Commodore 64? >I've heard that MFJ makes a TNC and that Digicom64 is the software of >choice. Where can I download digicom64? > >Thanks KE4WIS From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:53 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.magicnet.net!news.supernet.net!nntp.cntfl.com!news.fsu.edu!gatech!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: tracy.turner@hdh.COM (TRACY TURNER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: . Date: 3 Feb 96 10:02:00 GMT Organization: Heavy Duty Software BBS, Atlanta GA Lines: 12 Message-ID: <8BA112E.00420005B6.uuout@hdh.com> Reply-To: tracy.turner@hdh.com (TRACY TURNER) NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hello! I'm searching for a packet BBS software that will provide limited access for users until upgraded by the SYSOP. If anyone knows of such an animal and where it may be obtained, please let me know. Thanks, de KD4CDX tracy.turner#VLB@hdh.com --- * [TN71] Ky WME Net Mailhub * Vital Link BBS * Harlan,KY,USA * 606-573-1592 From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:54 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!in-news.erinet.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!news.enteract.com!news.inap.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!sgiblab!ga!news From: Richard Pyne Subject: Re: 10 Ghz full duplex? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3118E379.34B3@provo.lib.ut.us> Lines: 24 Sender: news@novell.com (News Administrator) Nntp-Posting-Host: gronk.provo.novell.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rpyne@provo.lib.ut.us Organization: Novell, Inc. References: <4do11t$h3s@csc.canberra.edu.au> <4e2diq$2dl@granite.sentex.net> <4e2k8k$fvt@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4e2u0a$cg@canyon.sr.hp.com> <4e8sav$90r@info-server.bbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 10:38:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mike Decerbo wrote: > If someone would like to snail-mail me a photocopy of the original > article, I will scan, OCR, and HTMLize it for hosting on the Web > server of anyone who would like to host it. Email me first so I know > it's coming. I will be happy to host the page. I maintain the web server at our local public library and already have a group of Ham Radio related pages (mostly local ARES) at http://www.provo.lib.ut.us/ares/ -- Richard B. Pyne, KB7RMU rpyne@provo.lib.ut.us kb7rmu@w7ohr.ampr.org http://www.provo.lib.ut.us/~rpyne/ The contents of this message reflect my opinions only and not necessarily those of any employer, client or service provider. This information is provided as is without any express or implied warranties. While every effort has been taken to ensure the accuracy of the information contained here, the author assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages resulting from the use of the information contained herein. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:55 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!neonramp.com!usenet From: mjones@neonramp.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 19.2k+ modem, need info. Date: 9 Feb 1996 05:35:56 GMT Organization: Nebraska On-Ramp, Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4femfs$mrk@neon3.neonramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: neon40b.neonramp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Someone posted an article that stated off the shelf 56k modems were available from SEVERAL places. If anybody knows where, let me know. Matt From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:57 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 4.030 Date: 7 Feb 1996 01:10:26 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4f9foi$4f5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello everyone, Can someone identify the steady carrier located at 4.030, it has been courious to me..... pegged my meter here in ohio, any help would be greatly appreciated... 73,s Jeff From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:58 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!chassis.demon.co.uk From: David Chapman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,sci.electronics.components Subject: Re: 7910 MODEM CHIPS WANTED Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 21:28:38 GMT Organization: Chapman Associates Lines: 25 Message-ID: <823642118snz@chassis.demon.co.uk> References: <4f7mjg$o4r@netty.york.ac.uk> Reply-To: dave@chassis.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: chassis.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Mail2News-Path: chassis.demon.co.uk Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14017 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13192 sci.electronics.components:1998 Hi David... > does anyone have any 7910 or 7911 modem chips for sale. Either the AMD or > SGS Thompson variety? I have one brand new AM 7911 DC chip which I would willingly donate to help a good cause. If you consider that you are one , then send me a stamped addressed envelope (see my web site) and I will send it back by return post. BTW, I also have a built-up modem from a Wireless World design which uses, I think, a 7910 chip. It is built on their approved PCB and cased with a 240v PSU. It worked when I last used it some years ago. If that is of any interest I am open to offers. ATB - Dave -- David C.Chapman - Chartered Engineer. FIEE. (dave@chassis.demon.co.uk) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CHAPMAN ASSOCIATES is a Consultancy offering practical expertise and design skills in the fields of counter-surveillance, electronic protection and security. Visit our Web site at http://www.ant.co.uk/~chassis/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:54:59 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!msunews!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!news From: no6b@no6b.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert Dengler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City/Repeater Use Date: 2 Feb 1996 21:43:49 GMT Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4eu0il$3ub@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> <4elgqo$q73@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: no6b@no6b.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert Dengler) NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.149.10.55 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.02 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:33021 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18930 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24650 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13179 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:13998 In , rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes: >In <4elgqo$q73@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> sparkfel@primenet.com (Mark Fellhauer ) writes: > >>rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) wrote: > >>>In <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> Eddie Caffray wr ites: > >>>> On the 146.85 repeater here in Central NY we had trouble with one user al so. He made it that >>>>no one would even monitor the reapeater anymore. The club voted to ban him and we did. The >>>>reapeater is a great place to be again. > >>>How do you manage to effectively ban malicious users from a repeater? >>>Of course this problem is known all over the world, but at least over >>>here we have not yet found an effective way of stopping them. How do >>>you do that? > Here's what a local repeater club in So. Cal. did: -Changed the status of their repeater from 'open' to 'private', so that only club members are 'supposed' to use it. -Got a restraining order prohibiting the undesired user from using the repeater. The restraining order was enforced & the undesired user was forced off the repeater, along with lots of 'good' non-member users. Bob NO6B From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:00 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!anilss1!not-for-mail From: anilss1@ibm.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: ?? Novell ethernet cards under NOS? Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 02:03:36 GMT Organization: OS/2 Warp Connect User Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <28Zlj4$00s@anilss1.ibm.net> Reply-To: anilss1@ibm.net NNTP-Posting-Host: slip202-135-21-32.sy.au.ibm.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 X-NNTPDaemon: changi 0.9 for OS/2 Hi All, A friend is trying to get a Novell ethernet card working under nos. It is made by Anthem (Assy. *810-160-00x) and is setup as per the NetWare Installation Supplement. The cards work fine under Windoze. He is using the folloing batch file line to load the driver: ne1000 0x60 2 0x340 and this under nos: attach packet 0x60 ec0 8 1500 The problem which he is having is that it comes up with Failed RX upcalls when recieving packets. Does anyone know what might be causing the problem? Any help would be appreciated. Andrew, VK6JBL From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!shore4.intercom.net!usenet From: pweeg@shore.intercom.net (Patti Weeg) Newsgroups: alt.radio.college,alt.radio.uk.talk-radio,alt.rave,alt.revolution.counter,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic,rec.music.artists.queensryche,rec.music.progressive,rec.music.reggae,rec.music.tori-amos,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: A new band on the Web, FIST-The Band Date: 8 Feb 1996 05:13:39 GMT Organization: ICNet, Salisbury, MD Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4fc0q3$otn@shore4.intercom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem205.intercom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.epix.net alt.radio.college:761 alt.radio.uk.talk-radio:995 alt.rave:63359 alt.revolution.counter:6670 alt.rock-n-roll:89066 alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive:14334 alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic:220 rec.music.artists.queensryche:3899 rec.music.progressive:19008 rec.music.reggae:26394 rec.music.tori-amos:36088 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14033 Please check out our new site!! "http://www.intercom.net/user/atw/fist" Also please let us know what you think!! Feed Back helps everyone!!! L8R and thanks! From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:02 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.intelenet.com!unogate!mvb.saic.com!homer.alpha.net!news.jersey.net!news.win.bright.net!brutus.bright.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.intersurf.net!usenet From: Bob McMillan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AEA Firmware Revisions Date: 6 Feb 1996 01:11:18 GMT Organization: InterSurf Online, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4f69rm$nde@dim.intersurf.net> References: <4f0q10$dfv@news.xroads.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-49.intersurf.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: jderuite@xroads.com I just installed version 7.1 in my pk-900 wb5ryr bob mcmillan From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:03 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: anyone using "GINA" XCVRS? Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:06:43 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4f7n9j$cad@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) Anyone on this newsgroup experimenting with 902-928 spread-spectrum xcvrs? Interested especially in using A/D>D/A of half-duplex speech transmission over either GINA (if that's possible) or other similiar units that run 1-watt rf.. Patricia Gibbons 73 From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:04 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hideout.emanon.net!alpha.sky.net!winternet.com!guitar.sound.net!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!merlion.singnet.com.sg!lantana.singnet.com.sg!ts900-2112 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: BPQ/Hostmode for MFJ 1270 C upwards? Date: Mon, 05 Feb 96 10:17:46 GMT Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4f4lht$hve@lantana.singnet.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-2112.singnet.com.sg X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2 Hi, Does anyone know if MFJ1270C onwards supports hostmodes? I noticed that TAPR 1.1.8a has BPQ Hostmode support but could not get my 1270B with upgraded C EPROM to go into the Hostmode. Where can I find out more info on this hostmode support? Even TAPR's web page doesn't have too much info on this. I would appreciate any help here as I am trying to write a terminal software which directly supports the hostmode (or BPQ or whatever). The existing software that uses the streamswitch character to implement multi windowed virtual terminals are too much of a kludge and unreliable. TIA. 73 de 9V1ZV Daniel Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:05 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Can a PK88 do DCD state? Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:58:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 14 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4es249$1tp@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4elet7$sev@gateway.grumman.com> X-Posted-By: nielsen.tus.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 bat@gateway.grumman.com (Pat Masterson) wrote: > I just bought a seconhand PK88. This one was built in 1989, >and I ordered latest (1991) firmware from AEA. I forgot to >ask them if there is any DCD sense on this device. How can >I run it with open squelch? The radio is an IC 229. Perhaps >somebody knows of a tap for the "busy" indicator? -pat Order a DCD state machine kit from TAPR (see www.tapr.org for details). Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:06 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsgw.mentorg.com!news From: Hank Oredson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: compiling JNOS Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:41:36 GMT Organization: Mentor Graphics Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4er8i0$2ue@hpbab.wv> References: <4e93gr$2no@ccsp-12.brunel.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: hankopc.wv Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) ssampson@icon.net (S. Sampson) wrote: >>This may be a silly question, I want to compile some different options into >>JNOS. I've got the source code, a C compiler (borland c++ 3.1 (I think)), >>I was told to edit the config.h (or was it .c) file. But when I try to >>compile it (or make it) I get a linker error in a0.asm. Can any one help ?? > >You need to: > >1. Edit the config.h >2. Edit the Makefile >3. Install your C compiler (BC 3.1 or greater) correctly (autoexec.bat, etc). >4. Type "make" > >That's it. > Don't forget to install TASM also ... -- Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics Library Operations Internet : hank_oredson@mentorg.com "Parts 'R Us!" Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:07 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Contact for TCP/IP address in Detroit? Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:56:51 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4f6n2j$k3g@news.halcyon.com> References: <4f3130$bkc@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm12-ip12.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Greg, I regularly connected with WU8C in Detroit from Seattle. I used my UHF packet station to make the connection. he might be a source for knowing who issues the TCP / IP address in Detroit. Gary KF7XV From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:08 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!purdue!yuma!usenet From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 12:02:20 -0800 Organization: Me be organized, hahaha :) Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3117B3CC.43A9@lamar.colostate.edu> References: <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net> <4f7po8$2ht@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: shakers.physics.colostate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win16; I) Stan Huntting wrote: > > In article <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net>, bcdlr@midwest.net says... > > >Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package > >for Windows, (3.1 or 95)? How about an ftp address? > > Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and antenn a. > ;-) > > -- > Stan Huntting, KF0IA > Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., > Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA > email: stan@mutadv.com > KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ > KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time reading an irrelevant reply? My reply to the original question is, beats me. I only run packet in DOS but there IS software out there. Try the oak.oakland.edu ftp site. BTW, I DO see FREE computers from time to time (mostly XT's) and build the majority of my antennas for practically nothing. I also write and upload FREEWARE programs now and then. fiz (KG0YG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:09 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.midwest.net!usenet From: bcdlr@midwest.net (Dan Reynolds) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:01:16 GMT Organization: Midwest Internet Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4fbhk2$dha@sparky.midwest.net> References: <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net> <4f7po8$2ht@news-2.csn.net> <3117B3CC.43A9@lamar.colostate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: decatur6.midwest.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 fiz wrote: >Stan Huntting wrote: >> Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and anten na. >So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There >are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you >come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time >reading an irrelevant reply? >My reply to the original question is, beats me. I only run packet in DOS >but there IS software out there. Try the oak.oakland.edu ftp site. BTW, I >DO see FREE computers from time to time (mostly XT's) and build the >majority of my antennas for practically nothing. I also write and upload >FREEWARE programs now and then. >fiz (KG0YG) I didn't know I was asking for so much. As I responed to this gentleman, I built my computer, (and business I have done from my home has paid for it, not general family operating funds), my antenna was given to me as well as my coax. The HT I am using was bought used for me by my Dad, and the TNC I am using was a great used deal. I thought hamming was about being creative in your building/acquiring. I didn't know you had to go out and buy the newest and the best. As a parting comment, some of the best applications I use are freeware or public domain. Most of those programs were a labor of love.... bcdlr@midwest.net, KB9JLO Peace+ Dan Reynolds, bcdlr@midwest.net, KB9JLO From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:11 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Date: 7 Feb 1996 14:32:36 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4fad64$8se@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net> <4f7po8$2ht@news-2.csn.net> <3117B3CC.43A9@lamar.colostate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ala-ca11-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 07 6:32:36 AM PST 1996 >Stan Huntting wrote: >> >> Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and antenna. >> ;-) >> >> -- >> Stan Huntting, KF0IA >> Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., >> Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA >> email: stan@mutadv.com >> KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ >> KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin > What a mean spirited answer. There are lots of Hams out there who are willing to write software and in the spirit of Ham radio are willing to give it away for nothing. Ka9q NOS is one example where lots of people spend many hours and still do as we speak. The Linux operating system and software is another. I think Stan KF0IA just flames for the hell of it. Had a bad day Stan ? Look in ftp.ucsd.edu\hamradio\packet Jean-Pierre kc6jet From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:12 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!caen!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!oleane!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!ws41.cnusc.fr!UNIX13.U-3MRS.FR!news From: miag200@vmesa12.u3-mrs.fr (anonymous) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Date: 7 Feb 1996 12:22:24 GMT Organization: u-3mrs.fr Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4fa5i0$c5a@UNIX13.U-3MRS.FR> References: <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: u3naa080.u-3mrs.fr X-Newsreader: WinVN version 0.82 In article <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net>, bcdlr@midwest.net (Dan Reynolds) s ays: > >Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package >for Windows, (3.1 or 95)? How about an ftp address? >Peace+ >Dan Reynolds, bcdlr@midwest.net, KB9JLO > Yes for shure! Try PACKY for windows or packtwin ... you can find it at ftp.ibp.fr/pub6/pc/win3/misc/ For shure, you should try to find those 2 softs with Warchie in a ftp near you r home there are the names again packy.. .zip and pktwin.. . zip (where .. are N° of versions ...) (Try REGEX option or substring) Those 2 softs are really good. support them (shareware..) by paying fees CIAO 73 51 from Jean-Paul South France EMail: MIAG200@vmesa12.u-3mrs.fr packet: (11 METERS, SOUTH FRANCE) : FRB1KV@FRA3LP From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:13 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!xara.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.csra.net!csra From: garyborb@csra.net (Gary Borba) Subject: GE Master II ICOMS Message-ID: <237cc$9a33.1f1@news.csra.net> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 96 14:09:19 GMT X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Lines: 9 At a recent Hamfest was able to pick up about 15 GE Master II low band radios and 5 Motorola Low Band units. We are first working to convert the Master II's first. Question we have is in regards to the temperature controlled crystal units (ICOMS). Does anyone have any experience in constructing the ICOMS or know of a source for the ICOMS so the units could be used on 6 Meters. Would appreciate any information! 73 de Gary, KR4XC From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:13 1996 Message-ID: <491842@280.chatlink.com> From: Gandolff@sys280.chatlink.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess Date: 07 Feb 1996 04:11:02 PST Subject: Re: Getting Internet Access via Packet/HAM Radio Lines: 4 very nicely said i hope she does get her ticket 3s' de wayme N1OFF From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:14 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!matlock.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!snooze.ser.bbnplanet.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!nntp-ucb.barrnet.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!inews.intel.com!itnews.sc.intel.com!chnews!usenet From: tom_boza@ccm.ch.intel.com (WB7ASR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Grounding Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:46:38 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4er8re$18vo@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <4emovc$hvh@ns2.ptd.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tboza.ch.intel.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) 1) will this help get rid of noise on my ICOM R71A caused by my computer? NO! 2) what gauge wire should I use? As large as possible 3) what length of ground rod should I use to see some results? As long as possible Grounds are always a GOOD idea, for the will balance everything in you shack, providing "everything" is tied to the same common ground. However for interference you will have to choke out the noise at the source, in your case, your computer. I would suggest using iron core toroids on all the computer I/O cables. Good luck, Tom... From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!waikato!taranaki!usenet From: Jim Irving Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: GSHPC v6.3 please Date: 1 Feb 1996 20:47:24 GMT Organization: New Zealand Online Lines: 1 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4er8ss$8pr@tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp23.taranaki.ac.nz X-Newsreader: From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:16 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!fdurt1.fdu.edu!xyzzy.bubble.org!newshost.cyberramp.net!news.net99.net!news.goodnet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!primus.ac.net!news.bconnex.net!alpine.valleynet.com!fresno1-26.valleynet.com!kd7s From: kd7s@valleynet.com (Bill Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HamComm 3.0 success story Date: Sun, 4 Feb 1996 15:49:08 MST Organization: ValleyNet Communications Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: fresno1-26.valleynet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] A couple weeks ago I asked for your thoughts on HamComm software for RTTY and AMTOR. I received quite a few responses and the overwhelming feeling was that this package is excellent. So, I heated up the soldering iron and built the interface. I had my first RTTY QSO about two hours after the last solder joint had cooled. What a thrill it was to explore a brand new mode (at least new to me) for such a small investment in time and money. Thanks to all of you who convinced me to take the plunge. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:17 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.hana.nm.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.mindspring.com!sco.mindspring.com!sco From: sco@mindspring.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HELP: 2m packet radio for Log Windows 3.0 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 23:31:50 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sco.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Anyone know any 2m radios for packet that will let LOG WINDOWS 3.0 control it? KE4IKT From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:18 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.localnet.com!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: High Speed Modems Date: 8 Feb 1996 12:21:25 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4fcps5$pg7@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-den12-22.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Feb 08 4:21:25 AM PST 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: hansen@ee.ucla.edu hansen@ee.ucla.edu (Christopher J Hansen) wrote: >I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for >amateur radio applications, such as packet. Specifically, I am >interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps. Is there a reference >point for information in this area? A website or mailing list >perhaps? Please respond here or email me at hansen@ee.ucla.edu. > >Chris Hansen, KA2WRG > There are several. You can get to most of them from the Colorado Amateur Radio page: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:20 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!zib-berlin.de!news.tu-chemnitz.de!irz401!news1.urz.tu-dresden.de!server2.rz.uni-leipzig.de!EVA!gerd From: gerd@EVA.imise.uni-leipzig.de (Gerd Roethig) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: homebuilt TNC ? Date: 7 Feb 1996 20:08:03 GMT Organization: Uni Leipzig Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4fb0r3$aqh@server2.rz.uni-leipzig.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: eva.imise.uni-leipzig.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all, I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU. Are there any schematic diagrams for that? Also, I need the Firmware source codes. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Gerd P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too... From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:21 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: henson1@ix.netcom.com(Douglas Henson ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HTX 202 and BayPac TNC Date: 9 Feb 1996 16:48:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4fftt6$bb5@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <4er55u$6vg@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sac-ca6-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 09 8:48:38 AM PST 1996 I am trying to connect a BayPac Model BP-1 TNC to an HTX 202 radio using a hand mic cable. Has anyone done this? I would like to confirm the wire connections before I plug the darn thing into the computer. This is a table to illistrate what I am trying to do: +-------+------------+--------------+ | TNC* | Function | Cable Wire | +-------+------------+--------------+ | black | Ground | bare | | Green | speaker | yellow | | yellow| mic | red | | red | PTT | (not used) | +-------+------------+--------------+ * the TNC is connected to the cable wire via a rj11 jack and wire Thank you for your help!!!! and 73, Doug Henson KF6AAZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:22 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!nwgw.infi.net!imci3!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vivanews.vivanet.com!mulveyr From: mulveyr@ll.aa2ys.ampr.org (Rich Mulvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: HTX-202 discriminator output? Date: 7 Feb 1996 02:23:49 GMT Organization: Mulvey Home Node Lines: 17 Message-ID: Reply-To: mulveyr@vivanet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip207.vivanet.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.4) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14032 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24737 Hello All: I have an HTX-202 that has apparently lost its audio chain. It transmits, and is apparently receiving ( the S-Meter is acting appropriately when it senses a signal. :-) Can anyone point me to where I can tap the output of the discriminator? I presume that I can acquire the audio there, and pipe it to my TNC, indirectly. :-) Thanks, - Rich --- Rich Mulvey, aa2ys Rochester, NY USA mulveyr@vivanet.com aa2ys@net.wb2psi.ampr.org aa2ys@wb2psi.#wny.ny.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:23 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.scott.net!acara.snsnet.net!HiWAAY.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: dblanco@ibm.net (Carlos_SPAIN) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: INFORMATION TNCs (Maximun available speed) Date: 2 Feb 1996 22:30:09 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4eu39h$4jae@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-41-253.ut.nl.ibm.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Please, I need to Know about TNC's maximun speed, Types & models, and prices. Also where I can buy them. It's possible to find a 19200 or 28800 TNC packet modem for 2m or 430MHz? Thanks & greatings from SPAIN ,Carlos EB1DRN dblanco@ibm.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:24 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!gatech!hookup!news.umbc.edu!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!user From: cookson@linus.mitre.org (Dean Cookson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 1 Feb 1996 19:59:32 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Mass. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4er634$qha@reuters2.mitre.org> References: <4ehqbt$o03@olympus.net> <1996Jan29.150539.13092@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: dcookson@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Host: geeky.mitre.org In article <1996Jan29.150539.13092@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >One method to do that is to create an alt group. If the volume in >the alt group is sufficient, it would be a strong argument to >move it into the regular hierarchy. It's a method, but it's a really bad one. alt groups are impossible to get rid of so there is no such thing as 'moving' a group to the big-8. Also, alt is supposed to be a hierarchy that stands on its own, not a test bed for the big-8. A better idea would be to create a mailing list and then cut it over to a news group if there is sufficient interest. -- | Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / +1 617 271-2714| DoD #207 AMA #573534 | | The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730 |Kot NML,B,KotLD2 / DW 2| | |'92 VFR750F/'94 Jeep YJ| | "I crack every time I squat." -N. Visser | DoDHS #1 / N1WDH | From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:25 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!hookup!noc.tor.hookup.net!news From: timmaude@hookup.net (Tim Maude) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa? Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 20:16:45 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Oakville, Ontario, CANADA Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: timmaude.tor.hookup.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I am considering a job in Africa. Internet service provider not available because the phones don't work. Can you help with some answers to these questions? 1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first priority) or WWW. ? 2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and knowledge? 3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet? 4. Would satellite UHF be a better option. The site is on the equator. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:26 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!netaxs.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!xara.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!uchinews!gw2.att.com!gw1.att.com!news.cs.indiana.edu!news.nstn.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!pc From: ppiercey@nlnet.nf.ca (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: J-Nos NewsGroup Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 18:01:20 GMT Organization: NLNet Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4f851g$37o_001@vo1he.ampr.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article , Jean.Letourneau@electro.mi.net (Jean Letourneau) wrote: >Is there a newsgroup for J-Nos? >Or someway I can subscribe to a J-Nos provider? >Thank You!. > > > * SLMR 2.1a * A celebrity is a person who is known for well-knownness. > There is a mailing list. The address is: nos-bbs@hydra.carleton.ca Just send the standard subscription request and you should start getting the stuff. 73. ============================================================================ Paul J. Piercey VO1HE [44.135.16.3] Packet Address VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM Internet Address ppiercey@nlnet.nf.ca ============================================================================ From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:27 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!fdurt1.fdu.edu!xyzzy.bubble.org!newshost.cyberramp.net!news.iadfw.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.ultranet.com!usenet From: Rob Bellville Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: JNOS book??? Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:53:49 GMT Organization: Web Page Creation Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4f65ad$ht0@caesar.ultra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bellville.ultranet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Is there any good reference material on JNOS? I'm especialy interested in LAN applications and would like to read about real-life applications. Is there such a book or Internet reference? Thanks - Rob -- .......................................................... Rob Bellville, N1NTE PO Box 515 bellvill@ultranet.com Millbury, MA 01527 .......................................................... http://www.ultranet.com/~bellvill/ .......................................................... From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:28 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!alfred.acs.uwlax.edu!usenet From: Feroz Ghouse Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Kam Modifications Date: 2 Feb 1996 04:09:48 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - La Crosse Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4es2qc$7bl@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial01.wwrdc.uwlax.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Hello: For those users who have the KAM enhancement board added to their KAMs, there is a modification that is supposed to improve the performance of the KAM to bring i t upto the level of the new KAM Plus. I inquired from Kantronics and they said that they do not support such modifications. My question is has anyone done this mod and how dies it work. In otherwords is it worthwhile following up on. I do have the modification somewhere in the belly of my hard drive. Comments would be appreciated 73 Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:29 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!neonramp.com!usenet From: mjones@neonramp.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KPC 9612, some common problems. Date: 6 Feb 1996 06:41:32 GMT Organization: Nebraska On-Ramp, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4f6t6s$emj@neon3.neonramp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: neon40b.neonramp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Here is my list of common problems. 1. make sure you have a 9600 capable radio. See list for my have used list. 2. 9612's like to see 3.3k deviation. 3 is too little, 3.75 is too much. 3. TXD too long. Yes, too long. Don't set it over 25 if at all possible. I cur rently run at 7 (seven). Radios: D4-10, Kenwood tm733 (have to adjust dev), tekk 900, 960 and 1000. If this doesn't help, email me at mjones@neonramp.com and I'll see what I can do. Matt From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:30 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!johnbl From: johnbl@inter.NL.net (John Blijs) Subject: Re: KPC 9612, some common problems. Message-ID: Organization: NLnet X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <4f6t6s$emj@neon3.neonramp.com> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 10:17:05 GMT Lines: 25 mjones@neonramp.com wrote: : Here is my list of common problems. : 1. make sure you have a 9600 capable radio. See list for my have used list. : 2. 9612's like to see 3.3k deviation. 3 is too little, 3.75 is too much. : 3. TXD too long. Yes, too long. Don't set it over 25 if at all possible. I c urrently run at 7 : (seven). : Radios: : D4-10, Kenwood tm733 (have to adjust dev), tekk 900, 960 and 1000. : If this doesn't help, email me at mjones@neonramp.com and I'll see what I ca n do. : Matt The TM733 is absolutely useless for 9600bd packet ! Much to slow in t/r switching, a very high bit error ratio. I wouldn't recommend it. Maybe just bearable if you only read mail from the local bbs. But if you try to transmit long packets the bad BER damages your modulation. See also the test results in recent QST articles 73 Joop, pe1dna From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:30 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ICSI.Net!news From: kjones@sun-link.com (Ken Jones & Martha McLemore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: looking for W2XO Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 02:40:35 GMT Organization: McLemore/Jones, Hanover PA USA Tel/Fax:717-633-1939 Lines: 19 Message-ID: <311aaafb.164728286@news.netrax.net> References: <4fb503$26p@tuegate.tue.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.231.169.21 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 Once upon a time, joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () wrote: >Can anybody give me an email address of W2XO in Pittsburgh ? His FBB mailbox >is doing strange things - like accepting forwarding from CB stations... > >Joop, pe1dna >joopv@etprs.phys.tue.nl > I found his Web page recently at: http://www.w2xo.pgh.pa.us his email is durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us I sent him your note (your post above). Cheers, Ken Jones ( mailto:kjones@sun-link.com ) ( CIS:73135,1243 ) [Amateur Radio callsign KB3JA] http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:31 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!newshost.convex.com!news.dfw.net!pcnet.com!ts3-pt13.pcnet.com!user From: sassano@pcnet.com (Felix G. Sassano, M.D.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem! Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:35:46 GMT Organization: PCNet -- Public Access Internet in Connecticut! Lines: 16 Message-ID: Reply-To: sassano@pcnet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ts3-pt13.pcnet.com My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5 plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine. When I plugged the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I use it. Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something? Thanks and 73 de KC1H -- "primum non nocere" From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:33 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.westnet.com!usenet From: jpryan@westnet.com (James P. Ryan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Morse code to text display wanted Date: 7 Feb 1996 15:09:27 GMT Organization: WestNet Internet Services Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4fafb7$ja0@mycroft.westnet.com> References: <4du55d$irl@sue.cc.uregina.ca> <4e11t1$1om@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: port3.ts2.westnet.com X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.2 UNREGISTERED 29 days remaining] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13226 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24767 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14042 There are two more programs that I am aware of. The first was published in 73 magazine with source it is called ROBOCOPY. This one is a copy/read only program with source in "C". I have also used a program called CW version 1.04 based on the robocopy program. This one was written by W0NFU, has no source code with it, runs on an IBM PC. Both of these programs require a seperate interface to your HF rig. N2IKO >>> In message - Ference Kish writes: :> :> :>> > :>> >Hi. My dad is a Ham operator, and asked me if there were some :>> inexpensive :>> >way to have incoming Morse code automatically translated and displayed :>> on :>> >a CRT. Since I know nothing about Ham radio, I thought I'd post here. :> :>There is a program called MORSEFFT which you should be able to find on the n et :>(use ARCHIE to find the site storing it ) :> :>It needs a sound blaster card as an input device. It comes with C source cod e, :>too :> :> From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:34 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet... Date: 7 Feb 1996 21:02:53 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fb41t$skr@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> <1996Feb7.072744.28884@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <1996Feb7.072744.28884@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca writes: >>hello all... >>can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the >>connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port >>with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port. >> >>any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop? > >Sure, get a DB-9 connector, a DB-25 connector, some wire, a soldering >iron, and solder. Your KPC-3 manual shows you which pins connect to >which signals. Or if you don't know which end of a soldering iron >gets hot, just pickup a DB-25 to DB-9 adapter at any computer store. Good advice, that. If you find the manual to be a problem, you might also check out the web page of Gloria Medcalf. Someone said he thought she was a Kantronics employee, per another posting. She offers tons of radio/TNC hookup information. She is plugging a book titled "What is your TNC doing?". Anyway, you don't have to buy the book to see some pretty in-depth information. Here is the URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/tnc-bk/index.html Check it out.... -John, KE6DTC -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:36 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.coast.net!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!news From: 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca (Sherwin Lim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: need help using a laptop computer for packet... Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 00:27:55 GMT Organization: Queen's University, Kingston Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> Reply-To: 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: toll3-slip176.tele.queensu.ca X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 hello all... can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port. any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop? sherwin ve7hqt From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!newsfeed.rice.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet... Message-ID: <1996Feb7.072744.28884@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 07:27:44 GMT Lines: 19 In article <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca writes: >hello all... >can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the >connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port >with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port. > >any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop? Sure, get a DB-9 connector, a DB-25 connector, some wire, a soldering iron, and solder. Your KPC-3 manual shows you which pins connect to which signals. Or if you don't know which end of a soldering iron gets hot, just pickup a DB-25 to DB-9 adapter at any computer store. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: 6 Feb 1996 04:53:27 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4f6ms7$k3g@news.halcyon.com> References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> <1996Feb4.141714.14973@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm12-ip12.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Thw WETNET has established 4 packet only repeaters in the greater Seattle, Wa area. 1 is on 2 meters and the other 3 are on 440 Mhz. The entire ssytem works real well, as all the station then focus on the repeaters. The repeaters do bit regeneration and no voice can pass. These are not simplex digis but full blown repeaters. I have had file transmfer rates of 600 bytes per second. They are all doing TCP / IP, seem to work real well. All are within the normal voice frequencies and cause no bother to voice repeaters close by. Also all are at 9600 bps. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:39 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> I disagree with your statement about the use of a packet regenerator at a duplex digipeater site.... Instead of using analog voice systems, use of a regenerator would 1) ensure that only packet would be passed thru, not voice 2) allow the system to use ANY freq available for packet use NOT just the rptr subbands on say 6 or 2mtr...but the entire band! (voice rptrs are limited to the rptr subbands....packet digis either simplex or duplex are not) 3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could use... 4) the regenerator would clean up any noisy signals and retransmit them clean for all to copy.....plus no loss of data because of poor audio quality on a voice rptr would occur in a true digital sense! 73 Chris -- Senior Telecommunications Technician 72732.2610@CompuServe.com ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities 1:106/4267 FIDOnet WB5ITT - Advanced Class BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS) PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial 409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:40 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 12:11:50 GMT Organization: My own musings. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <31174007.10272239@canberra.dialix.oz.au> References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> Reply-To: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup004.canberra.dialix.com.au On Sat, 03 Feb 1996 18:30:35 GMT, ka1jy@usa.nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) wrote: >On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> >wrote: > > >>3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum >>usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could >>use... > >Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO >busy with important stuff and all. > >Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines >sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have >a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs >though. > >-be > Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so uncommon. Throughout the Australian "Outback" if and when there are no other means, a few guys use these voice repeaters as digi's by consent with other operators, usually very late at night or early morning. It's also a common practice in certain places in New Zealand, when (AND IF!) there are no digi's in a particular area, the blokes have the consent of the local voice operators to use voice repeaters for digi's with the same time constraints as in the Australian case. Packet Radio: Amateur radio for hams that can read and write... Kindest regards, Bob, VK7KOB, ZL3TJP From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:41 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!nothing.ucsd.edu!brian From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: 7 Feb 1996 23:30:03 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4fbclr$t5g@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> <31174007.10272239@canberra.dialix.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: nothing.ucsd.edu vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au writes: >Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so uncommo n. In common usage among most packet people, a 'digi' is a device that stores one or more packets and then retransmits them as soon as the channel is clear, without hop-to-hop acknowledgements. The retransmission is NOT simultaneous as it is in a voice repeater. In other words, a 'digi' or 'digipeater' is NOT the same as a 'digital repeater' might be. Yes, it's confusing. Which one of these did VK7KOB mean? - Brian From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:42 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.gate.net!news-adm From: Chuck Harrington Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Paket for Windows Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 02:32:54 -0500 Organization: Chuck Harrington Software, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <3119A726.2916@gate.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: orlfl2-11.gate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Try PacketPeT For Windows. Also, Visual PacketPeT For Windows will be released within a month, and should make a pretty good splash! -- PacketPeT For Windows - Terminal Software For All hardware TNCs! For Shareware version Download ftp://qrz.com./incoming/p21r2.zip Chuck Harrington Software, Inc. - chuckorl@aol.com - paketpet@gate.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:42 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Jason Reighard Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: QZR Call look up door for VBBS??? Date: Fri, 9 Feb 96 00:16:37 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 6 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com Is there a door program avaible for Virtual BBS to allow users look up callsigns via VBBS? Jason KB8sfc From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:43 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.localnet.com!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!xara.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!strath-cs!info!se93dlp From: se93dlp@exeter.ac.uk (D.L.Pomeroy) Subject: REQ RDS Demod. TDA7330 Message-ID: Organization: University of Exeter, UK Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:31:41 GMT Lines: 3 I desperately need an RDS demodulator chip TDA7330 or equivalent to finish my final year project. Can anyone help? Please let me know! From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:44 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!sierra.net!imci3!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!s169.phxslip4.indirect.com!tracker From: tracker@indirect.com (Mark Saunders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Starting a PBBS using FBB-need help Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 18:48:57 UNDEFINED Organization: Amateur Radio Station KJ7BS Lines: 23 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: s169.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] Hello, and thanks for reading this message. I'm trying to setup a new Packet BBS in the Phoenix metro area using F6FBB. I'm not sure I've got the right hardware/software for the job. Here is what I have, you tell me. 80486DX100 computer with 1.2GB, 16MB ram, DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1. (VHF) Yaesu FT-530 HT (a little light for the job, but plan to get another rig ) (HF) Kenwood TS-850S/AT MFJ-1278BT TNC F6FBB V 5.15 The documentation is rather difficult to comprehend in places. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Mark Saunders - KJ7BS Glendale, AZ PACKET: KJ7BS@KC7Y.AZ.USA.NOAM INTERNET: tracker@indirect.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:45 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!merlion.singnet.com.sg!lantana.singnet.com.sg!ts900-1718 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TAPR TNC-2 1.1.9 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 13:12:14 GMT Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4f7k51$ur1@lantana.singnet.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-1718.singnet.com.sg X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2 Can anyone tell me what's new in the TAPR TNC-2 1.1.9 ROM version compare to the 1.1.8(a)? Does it come with Mailbox support etc? 73 de 9V1ZV Daniel Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:46 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!newshost.comco.com!news.tamu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!winternet.com!news.minn.net!JHILL From: dsp@timewave.com (Customer Support) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Timewave Technology Homepage Date: Tue, 06 Feb 96 21:46:14 GMT Organization: Timewave Technology Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4f8lrp$k1u@cobra.Minn.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-74.minn.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14021 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24688 rec.radio.amateur.misc:97849 rec.radio.shortwave:69816 I am proud to announce that the WWW Homepage for Timewave Technology is finally up and running. You can view spec sheets for our products, a list of dealers, a list of magazine reviews, customer testimonials, download user manuals, and more. It's not as fancy as some homepages, and a few parts are still under construction, but it'll improve as time goes on. Check it out at: http://www.timewave.com/index.html 73, John, NJ0M Product Engineer and wearer of many hats... Timewave Technology Inc. dsp@timewave.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:47 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!everest.iserv.net!usenet From: pete@grfn.org (Pete Hoffswell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: tnc cable for HTX-202? Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 06:45:25 GMT Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4esa3g$4lj@everest.iserv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: holland82.iserv.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but... Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable? HTX-202 has MIC TIP MIC SPK TIP SPK ------ TNC has PTT AF OUT (to mic in) AF IN (to recvr spkr) GND ------------- The tnc is a Heath HK-21 pocket packet. Pete, the electronics neophyte. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:48 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!dsinc!lebanet!alpha.comsource.net!cioeserv.cioe.com!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: dblanco@ibm.net (Carlos Blanco) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNCs INFORMATION NEEDED !!!!! Date: 3 Feb 1996 00:07:29 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4eu902$3tqg@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip139-92-41-253.ut.nl.ibm.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ I want to know if its possible to find a TNC or modem for 2m band or 430MHz ba nd, with a 14400 baud rate or upper. Could you send me type,model & price? Also, what is the better equiment for it of YAESU, KENWOOD, ICOM ? Thanks & greetings from SPAIN, .... EB1DRN Carlos From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!news.isp.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Choisser Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: White Pages Server Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:11:29 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4f7601$d81@slip.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sfsp131.slip.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: newsadmin@slip.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU wrote: >I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the >nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that >was a while back. Thanks for you help. Hi Adam... The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located near Santa Cruz, CA. You're right about AD8I. He was the national server prior to IYA. 73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM lkenney@slip.net San Francisco From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.isp.net!news.isp.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Choisser Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: White Pages Server Date: 6 Feb 1996 09:14:06 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4f764u$dkm@slip.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sfsp131.slip.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-NEWS-ADMIN: newsadmin@slip.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU ayoung@ksu.ksu.EDU wrote: >I am getting back into packet and would like to know what PBBS has the >nation WP directory? Last time I knew it was AD8I (I think), but that >was a while back. Thanks for you help. Hi Adam... The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located near Santa Cruz, CA. You're right about AD8I. He was the national server prior to IYA. 73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM lkenney@slip.net San Francisco From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:50 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!usenet From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:17:18 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4fbf78$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mcs002.pc.sno.dec.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Hello ALL Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets. He has uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's. If someone comes across it, can they upload it onto an FTP site and let everyone know..... Cheers..Peter e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer does not have the right to use my opinions.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:51 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.neca.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.nd.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ghgcorp.com!usenet From: "Ros St. John" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE Date: Tue, 06 Feb 1996 22:36:07 -0800 Organization: GHG Corporation Lines: 20 Message-ID: <31184857.351D@ghgcorp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialupline73.ghgcorp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Hi. Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk. STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!! BEWARE!!!! I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very least, the center section thereof. Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11. Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER. Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna. Want AEA OR M2 434 mhz. atv antenna. Thank you. W5BRY, Ros. my email is rstjohn@ghgcorp.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Feb 09 16:55:52 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: SKORIC@uns.ns.ac.YU (Miroslav Skoric, B.Sc.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: YAESU FT-7B for data? Date: 6 Feb 96 13:21:34 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 9 Message-ID: <960206152134.bb04@uns.ns.ac.yu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu I have an old FT-7B rig running with FBB5.14a and TNC2S/WA8DED on HF packet. Interested in possible use on more TX/RX exchange ratio (AMTOR, PACTOR etc) and wonder if anybody has experienced this rig in those modes. Also, for IC-745 that I will use in the next several months.. 73 de Misko, YT7MPB@YU7APV.SRB.YUG.EU skoric@uns.ns.ac.yu SRV Amateur union (info mngr) Trg Mladenaca 10, Novi Sad, Yugoslavia From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:54:58 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 19.2k+ modem, need info. Message-ID: <1996Feb9.185718.12923@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4femfs$mrk@neon3.neonramp.com> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 18:57:18 GMT Lines: 17 In article <4femfs$mrk@neon3.neonramp.com> mjones@neonramp.com writes: > >Someone posted an article that stated off the shelf 56k modems >were available from SEVERAL places. If anybody knows where, let >me know. >Matt I don't know of *several*, but I do know of two places. GRAPES still sells kits of the original 3 board design, and PacComm is advertising W&T versions of the new all on one board units. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:54:59 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!newshost.vu.nl!cs.vu.nl!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> <310B8C36.5D9@magnum.wpe.com> <4ete1q$b0o@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 22:41:41 GMT Lines: 17 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:33052 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:18989 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24803 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13253 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14059 In <4ete1q$b0o@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> ddenter@bnr.ca (Dean Denter) writes: >Every radio has a "unique" pattern when you key it (due to differences >in the components etc), this pattern can be used to identify a radio. >There is no encrypted signal or anything that fancy. I have my doubts about the uniqueness of the pattern generated by same-type transmitters... and the stability of the pattern as a function of temperature, time etc. But it seems another sub-thread starts to discuss this. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:00 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.charm.net!news.cais.net!xara.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!brutus.bright.net!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!jaxnet.jaxnet.com!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!rahul.net!a2i!news.clark.net!ke6et!paul From: paul@ke6et.clark.net (Paul B. Schou) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Address/Phone for TEKK Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Feb 96 16:27:28 EST Reply-To: paul@ke6et.clark.net Organization: Annapolis Regional Network Lines: 5 Can someone pass at least a phone number to me? Thanks. Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World Internet: paul@ke6et.clark.net - Packet: ke6et@ke6et.md.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gatech!news.eas.asu.edu!xroads!usenet From: jderuite@xroads.com (John DeRuiter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AEA Firmware Revisions Date: Sat, 03 Feb 1996 23:12:52 GMT Organization: Crossroads Communications Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4f0q10$dfv@news.xroads.com> Reply-To: jderuite@xroads.com NNTP-Posting-Host: slip35.xroads.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Can anyone fill me in the the various firmware revisions (or at least the most recent ones) that PK-232 from AEA has gone through? Is version 7 the most recent version? Thanks in advance and 73 John , KJ7GU From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interserv.net!news1.sprynet.com!news From: Paul Bastian Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Cheap Modem for JVFax Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:59:30 -0800 Organization: Sprynet News Service Lines: 2 Message-ID: <311E9F02.61A5@sprynet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd08-003.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Does anybody know were on can get a modem for JVFax software. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:02 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!primus.ac.net!news.cais.net!nntp.uio.no!nntp-oslo.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!not-for-mail From: erikm@colargol.idb.hist.no (Erik Meltzer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: DCF-77 Date: 10 Feb 1996 15:37:02 GMT Organization: Sor-Trondelag College, Norway Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4fie2u$3p7@doffen.uninett.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: colargol.idb.hist.no Keywords: DCF-77 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Can anyone help me with geting hold of information on the DCF-77 protocol, in English as my German is rotten. If you have any information I would be happy if you could mail it to me. Erik Meltzer erikm@stud.idb.hist.no From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:03 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!usenet From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: E-Mail FBB forwarding wanted !! Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:41:08 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4fj6mi$6ot@usenet.pa.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 16.172.48.48 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Hello OM's I would like to test FBB forwarding via e-mail.. If you are interested , please e-mail me !!!!! I will accept mail from ANYWHERE !!!!! Cheers..Peter e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer does not have the right to use my opinions.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:04 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!nntp.coast.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: fast packet <--> internet Date: 13 Feb 1996 13:16:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fq2ur$8mb@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-den10-16.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 13 5:16:11 AM PST 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: les@rfx.rfx.com Hi Les, les@rfx.rfx.com (Les Dittert) wrote: >Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ? >I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and >have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via >remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use >conventional packet radio network protocols to do this. As Gary pointed out, the best way is to extend the Internet protocols over packet using the available hardware and software. >I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from >what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of >text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images >such as WWW pages should be possible. 9600 baud packet provides 500 bytes per second transfer rates (a 14.4kb telco modem gives 1600). Hardware is available to go faster. Start reading on the Colorado Amateur Radio Page at http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital. Also checkout what Kantronics and Paccom are doing. ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:05 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!interactive.net!winternet.com!dimensional.com!news.wizard.com!imci4!imci5!suck-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pa.dec.com!usenet From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FBB E-mail forwarding Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 01:23:32 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4fbfj0$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mcs002.pc.sno.dec.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Hello OM's I have setup an experimental FBB system and would like to try to forwarding via e-mail. Would someone care to send me mail, exported from FBB, zipped up , uuencoded and send it to me. I will then forward it out to the Sydney Network.... Please limit the zipped file to 300KB as my employer doesn't want his mail system killed !!! If this is successfull, I would like to do this on an ongoing basis. I'll accept bullitens from ANYWHERE !!!!! Cheers.. Cheers..Peter e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer does not have the right to use my opinions.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:06 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.nuri.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: michaelm@doruk.COM.TR (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Date: 9 Feb 96 05:07:54 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 34 Message-ID: <9602082110.aa02603@bbs.doruk.com.tr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On 06 Feb 1996 Dan Reynolds wrote: >Anybody know of a freeware or public domain packet software package >for Windows, (3.1 or 95)? How about an ftp address? Hello, Dan - You could try UltraPak by G4WFT. One of the local users likes it. It's designed to work best with F6FBB BBS software. The author asks for 20 pounds registration fee (about 30+ dollars) which will remove a 'registration window' on startup and entitle you to phone and email support. And, of course, encourage him in future efforts. I don't do windows so I haven't tried it, but took a quick look on a system at the BBS QTH. It looked good, to a non-'point and click'er. It's available at: ftp.demon.co.uk /pub/ham/general ftp.tapr.org /tapr/software_lib/terminal as UPAK40.ZIP. You might also want to try UPAK401.ZIP, etc. for updates. I also read good things about WinPack v5.13 by Roger Barker which is supposed to be freeware. It's available at: ftp.funet.fi /pub/ham/packet/terminal Have fun! 73 - de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV) Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye Amateur Packet Radio: TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU Internet (email only): Michael C. McHugh From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:07 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!fdurt1.fdu.edu!xyzzy.bubble.org!newshost.cyberramp.net!news.iadfw.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Windows Packet Software? Message-ID: <1996Feb9.065721.9918@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4f69hu$3m4@sparky.midwest.net> <4f7po8$2ht@news-2.csn.net> <3117B3CC.43A9@lamar.colostate.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 06:57:21 GMT Lines: 21 fiz wrote: > >Stan Huntting wrote: >>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and antenn a. > >So why does 'store bought' software have to be the only solution? There >are lots of GOOD freeware/shareware programs out there. Why don't you >come up with a useful reply instead of being a jerk and wasting OUR time >reading an irrelevant reply? It was an irrelevant, and perhaps irreverant, reply, but I think I know where he is coming from. As a sometime software author myself, I get irked by the attitude that hardware is worth paying for, but that software should be free (or stolen). Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:08 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww From: sww@csuohio.edu (Steve Wolf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests Date: 12 Feb 1996 04:16:26 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Lines: 44 Message-ID: <4fmeuq$cqn@csu-b.csuohio.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coffman.cba.csuohio.edu X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5 Ken Wickwire (kwick@mitre.org) wrote: : Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!: : : For some months we've been running tests of throughput : in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England. Hi ... I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up when left unattended in the TOR mode. I had been running MSYS using TOR with an upgraded KAM. About three times per week the KAM would be left in a locked state. The red LED would be on continuously and nothing short of a power down would restore it. The KAM was HEAVILY used on a HF port here and trying to duplicate the problem has been frutile. I have recorded the data to and from the KAM before, during and after lockups and can not recreate the problem. I have now reverted to Pactor as 99.9% of the users start in Pactor and try GTOR only if the band is in GREAT shape. Left in Pactor, the TNC is rock solid. Leaving the TNC in GTOR is not an option. My users need the Pactor as many are not running KAMs. (And most are hundreds of miles from a phone line, hi hi.) Hence, trying to see if the problem is in GTOR is not an option. I can only verify its occurs in TOR. Being that I can record data to and from the KAM<>MSYS path ... and being that I can not recreate the situtation by duplicating the data, I may be wrestling with a lockup in the KAM firmware. The KAM is a upgraded version running 7.1 ROMs. I tried another upgraded KAM but have no KAM+ to try. Anyone see such lockups, please!!!, let the net know. -- 73, Steve Internet : no8m@hamnet.org Amateur Radio : no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na MSYS Mail List: msys-request@hamnet.org ('info' for title) Pactor on 3630. 3632, 3634, 7072, 14072 and 14074 ... 48 seconds per cycle Near Cleveland, Ohio From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:10 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!news From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Ham Radio Online goes Interactive! Check us out! Date: 12 Feb 1996 16:20:22 GMT Organization: Virtual Publishing Co. Lines: 44 Message-ID: <4fnpc6$38f@news.accessone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vbook.accessone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:98010 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14099 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13295 rec.radio.amateur.space:6310 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19025 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24869 rec.radio.amateur.policy:33073 rec.radio.scanner:45431 rec.radio.shortwave:70000 INTRODUCING HAM RADIO ONLINE INTERACTIVE! Now you can post free classified ads, DX openings, VHF band openings and much more. And with over 10,000 readers stopping by last month, your thoughts will actually get read at this ham radio web site! We are not just pointers to cyberspace - we've got actual content - feature articles, newsletters, product reviews, real-time propagation conditions and more. The February 1996 edition of Ham Radio Online International Magazine is available at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm Some of the NEW February stories include a review of SkyTel's "2-way paging" s ystem, radio surveillance frequencies, and the effects of two-way radio operation in blasting zones. Ham Radio Online has been selected as a featured web site by America Online and a Top 100 web site for the month of January by Planet Earth, Inc. New articles are available now and we add articles throughout the month. Ham Radio Online has up-to-date news about Amateur Radio from around the world , feature stories, real-time propagation and auroral condition reports, real-tim e earthquake and severe weather conditions for emergency communications planning , online humor section and the Ham Radio Online Library with fully indexed (find any section with just a mouse click) Part 97 rules and regulations. 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Please enjoy! 73, Ed Mitchell KF7VY vbook@vbook.com http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline .htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:11 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.inc.net!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!uni-paderborn.de!news.sni.de!news From: schroeder.pad@sni.de (W.F.Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HamComm 3.0 success story Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 12:44:42 GMT Organization: none Lines: 29 Message-ID: <4fncm4$1dg@nervous.pdb.sni.de> References: <311613BB.2EC2D9E5@ptd.net> Reply-To: schroeder.pad@sni.de NNTP-Posting-Host: django.pdb.sni.de X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Dave Skarbowski wrote: >Bill Jones wrote: >> >> A couple weeks ago I asked for your thoughts on HamComm software for RTTY a nd >> AMTOR. I received quite a few responses and the overwhelming feeling was >> that this package is excellent. So, I heated up the soldering iron and bui lt >> the interface. I had my first RTTY QSO about two hours after the last sold er >> joint had cooled. What a thrill it was to explore a brand new mode (at lea st >> new to me) for such a small investment in time and money. Thanks to all of >> you who convinced me to take the plunge. >Yes, Hamcomm 3 works VERY well. Now, try a DSP-59+ unit in front of your >op-amp decode circuit and the recieve will work better than a pk-232 or >Kam-plus. This has been my experience.... >73, Dave, n2fam Thanks to Bill and Dave. It's nice to read a *positive* comment about HamComm. 73 Django DL5YEC -- He who has trouble shows up on usenet. He who succeeded shows up on the bands. :-) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:12 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!cambridge-news.cygnus.com!news3.near.net!news.ner.bbnplanet.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: mclendon@ix.netcom.com(Mike McLendon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion Date: 9 Feb 1996 13:13:04 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4ffh90$cf4@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <4eh6q2$f1t@sundog.tiac.net> <4eqgaq$a01@reader2.ix.netcom.com> <4et3a3$pc6@news.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-rtp4-28.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 09 5:13:04 AM PST 1996 In <4et3a3$pc6@news.halcyon.com> "Gary P. Fiber" writes: > >With most Amateur radio equipment today the problem is not poor decoupling >but the accessory input is high impedance, this provided no loading and no >path to ground for thr prevailing RF that is in the radio room. Using the >mic input which is usually 600 ohms or FSK connections are the prefered >methods of connnecting external devices. Some times you might try a >matching transformer in the audio circuit it hekps on Yaesus radios. > >The 600 ohm mic input generally willlprovide a sufficent load to the >incoming TNC audio, and inpressed RF will usually go to ground. > >Gary > Gary - you make a good point: the nominal impedance is probably high at both the mic input and its' bridged accessory input; but in the Ten Tec Omni's case here the accessory audion in jack is NOT used - FSK-in is used and the problem remains @&*^$@&*^@ makes me so mad... Mike KE4END From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:13 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HELP! TEN-TEC Omni-VI / PK-232 Audio distortion Date: 10 Feb 1996 16:01:06 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4fifg2$ata@news.halcyon.com> References: <4eh6q2$f1t@sundog.tiac.net> <4eqgaq$a01@reader2.ix.netcom.com> <4et3a3$pc6@news.halcyon.com> <4ffh90$cf4@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm3-ip24.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Do you still have a connection to the audio input on the acc connection ? FSK generally does not connect with the audio inputs, there should be no cause for the TNC to be introducing this distortion. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:14 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.cyberhighway.net!usenet From: relliott@cyberhighway.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: High Speed Modems Date: 9 Feb 1996 07:02:24 GMT Organization: CyberHighway Internet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4feri0$4s0@host-3.cyberhighway.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: nampapm1-7.cyberhighway.net X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) >> hansen@ee.ucla.edu (Christopher J Hansen) writes: > interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps. Is there a reference > point for information in this area? A website or mailing list > Chris Hansen, KA2WRG >>>> You may wish to check out the GRAPES Web site, they have a 56K system, http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/grapes/grapes.html Georgia Radio Amateur Packet Enthusiasts Society has a very informative site.. .. Later, Rich Elliott KC7CDK relliott@cyberhighway.net http://www.cyberhighway.net/~relliott/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: rwhiting@winternet.COM (Rick Whiting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re:High Speed Modems Date: 10 Feb 96 22:02:14 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 23 Message-ID: <199602102202.QAA24691@icicle.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu In article hansen@ee.ucla.edu (Christopher J Hansen) writes: >I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for >amateur radio applications, such as packet. Specifically, I am >interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps. Is there a reference >point for information in this area? A website or mailing list >perhaps? Please respond here or email me at hansen@ee.ucla.edu. PacComm is marketing high speed modems. You can contact them at: 4413 N. Hesperides St., Tampa, FL 33614-7618, phone 813-874-2980, e-mail info@paccomm.com. Also take a look at the VFast28.8 GMSK Radio Modem at URL http://ion.le.ac.uk/~djb2/vfast288.html. 73/Rick W0TN ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Richard A. (Rick) Whiting Phone: + 1 612 550 1213 | | 5780 Rosewood Ln. N. E-mail: rwhiting@winternet.com | | Plymouth, MN 55442-1411 Packet: W0TN @ WB0GDB.MN.USA.NOAM | | U.S.A. Fax: Number on request | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:16 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!fdurt1.fdu.edu!xyzzy.bubble.org!newshost.cyberramp.net!news.iadfw.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: High Speed Modems Message-ID: <1996Feb9.071418.10142@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:14:18 GMT Lines: 22 In article hansen@ee.ucla.edu (Christopher J Hansen ) writes: >I am interested in information on high speed radio modems for >amateur radio applications, such as packet. Specifically, I am >interested in speeds greater than 9600 bps. Is there a reference >point for information in this area? A website or mailing list >perhaps? Please respond here or email me at hansen@ee.ucla.edu. You might look at Bob Merrit's page, www.mindspring.com/~bobm. Or you might want to experience 56 kb packet in action by looking at Dale Heatherington's web page, www.wa4dsy.radio.org:80. One of the links in the path to that page is carried over 56kb packet. There's also a 28.8kb telco link in that path, so don't get too depressed if it isn't as fast as you expect. Work is underway to get the packet link connected directly to a T1 for net access, but there's the little problem of a mountain in the way. :-) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:17 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!news.ecis.com!news.walltech.com!news.his.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!nntp.coast.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: Dietrich Morgenstern <76050.1341@Compuserve.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: homebuilt TNC ? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:11:20 +0100 Organization: nn Lines: 20 Message-ID: <311E5B78.310B@Compuserve.com> References: <4fb0r3$aqh@server2.rz.uni-leipzig.de> Reply-To: 76050.1341@Compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Host: hd51-040.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Gerd Roethig wrote: > > Hello all, > > I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU. > > Are there any schematic diagrams for that? > > Also, I need the Firmware source codes. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > Gerd > > P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too... Gerd: bei TAPR in Tucson bekommen Sie das Circuit Board fuer den TNC2 mit allen UNterlagen und Schaltbild. ROM mit Software ebenfalls dort. 73 Dietrich DJ1VA at OE2XOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:18 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!usenet From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 and BayPac TNC Date: 12 Feb 1996 20:42:48 GMT Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4fo8o8$4p5@newshost.lanl.gov> References: <4er55u$6vg@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> <4fftt6$bb5@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jdport.lanl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: henson1@ix.netcom.com Your table shows the PTT as unused, which would allow it to receive or monitor only. The HTX-202, as with ICOM, combines the PTT and transmit audio on the same line, i.e. the tip of the microphone plug connector. You combine the audio and PTT from the modem into the connector with a 10K resistor and a .1 ufd capacitor like so: .1 uf TX Aud (Yel) ---||-------------| |---------------o tip of mic plug PTT (red) --------\/\/\/-------| 10K resistor Modem Ground-----------------------------------HTX202 ground -- |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:20 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!clio.trends.ca!news.io.org!winternet.com!mr.net!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 11 Feb 1996 23:42:11 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 36 Message-ID: <4flusj$d0o@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Feb10.012547.14732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4fim3l$kmv@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Feb11.063342.20919@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24886 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14105 In article <1996Feb11.063342.20919@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article <4fim3l$kmv@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wr ites: >>In article <1996Feb10.012547.14732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, >>Gary Coffman wrote: >>> >>>Yes, that's completely in error. The Icom "standard" for up/down >>>buttons is, the up button hard makes to ground to request an up step, >>>the down button makes to ground through a 470 ohm resistor to request >>>a down step. External voltage should *not* be applied to this pin at >>>all, the uP supplies the sense voltage. >> >>The up/down line is connected directly to an analog input on the uP, >>and there is a 4.7k pull-up resistor; I don't think this will be >>much use with a 470 ohm pull down. I tend to believe the voltage >>is supplied by the microphone in this case, and I'll measure it >>sometime and update the FAQ, unless someone meaures it first and >>lets me know. > >This is exactly how it works, Dana. I have the schematics for all >the Icom mikes, and have repaired more than a few. Trust me, hard >to ground for UP, to ground through a 470 ohm resistor for DOWN. >No voltage is sourced on this line by the microphone. It should >be simple enough for you to test this. Short the pin to ground, >the radio steps UP, short the pin to ground via a 470 ohm resistor, >the radio steps DOWN. Apply external voltage to this pin at your >peril. Of course, Gary is correct...I'll have to update the FAQ.. thanks!! -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dpc.net!novia!nntp.inc.net!news.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Message-ID: <1996Feb10.012547.14732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 01:25:47 GMT Lines: 35 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24904 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14122 In article <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wri tes: >Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s. I've crossposted >to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a >1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000. > >Please send me updates or corrections... [snip] >Notes: > >* The +8V source looks like it is intended to run the DTMF encoder in >the standard Icom microphone. I wouldn't draw more than 10mA or >so from this pin. The +8 volts is to power the FET in the electret mic element. Icom specs the *maximum* current to be drawn from this pin as 10mA. >* The up/down signal appears to be an analog input; the service manual >says "Up: 5.0V, Down: 0.0V, Off: 5.0V", but I believe this is an error; >I suspect it is more like 5.0V for up, 0V for down and 2.5V for off, >but I haven't measured it yet. Under no circumstances exceed 5V >on this line, since it is connected to the embedded microcomputer, >and make certain to include some series resistance, say 1k. Yes, that's completely in error. The Icom "standard" for up/down buttons is, the up button hard makes to ground to request an up step, the down button makes to ground through a 470 ohm resistor to request a down step. External voltage should *not* be applied to this pin at all, the uP supplies the sense voltage. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:22 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com!usenet From: 156kay@usa.pipeline.com(Rich B.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Interface Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:41:39 GMT Organization: Pipeline USA Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4fqf03$jha@news1.usa.pipeline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pipe18.h1.usa.pipeline.com X-PipeUser: 156kay X-PipeHub: usa.pipeline.com X-PipeGCOS: (Rich B.) X-Newsreader: Pipeline USA v3.4.0 Can anyone explain to someone used to the AEA CP-1 and is now interested in Hamcom. Just what is a P59+ , where does it come from, what does it do for the Hamcom 3.0 Email 156kay@usa.pipeline.com or place a note here -- Rich B. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:23 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!news2.ee.net!port14 From: kb8pwc@greenapple.com (Jeff De Long) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: internet forwarding poll Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 23:30:12 GMT Organization: eNET Inc. - Internet Service Provider Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.31.168.30 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams thought about internet forwarding. I am for it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:23 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!llondel.demon.co.uk From: David Hough Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 21:13:23 GMT Organization: Home Lines: 15 Message-ID: <824098403snx@llondel.demon.co.uk> References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> X-NNTP-Posting-Host: llondel.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: cppnews $Revision: 1.43 $ X-Mail2News-Path: relay-4.mail.demon.net!post.demon.co.uk!llondel.demon.co.uk In article <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> kb8pwc@greenapple.com (Jeff De Long) writes: > I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the > internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams > thought about internet forwarding. I am for it. Depends on whether you consider yourself to be a *radio* amateur or not. Using non-amateur means to forward mail is OK to bypass a broken RF link but should not be considered as a permanent replacement for that link. Dave -- dave@llondel.demon.co.uk Any advice above is worth what I paid for it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:24 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!fish.pond.com!kd3bj!jolt.pagesat.net!netserv.com!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!tuegate.tue.nl!etprs!joopv From: joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Date: 11 Feb 1996 16:43:13 GMT Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands Lines: 19 Message-ID: <4fl6b1$c24@tuegate.tue.nl> References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: etprs.phys.tue.nl X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jeff De Long (kb8pwc@greenapple.com) wrote: > I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the > internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams > thought about internet forwarding. I am for it. I am not. The reason: using internet for message transfer has nothing to do with amateur radio. Or should we rename out hobby to amateur communicators ? The next step : let the radio amateurs use internet to connect to the local (packet?) bbs. The last step (from the government): sell the amateur bands to the highest bidder. 73 Joop, pe1dna joopv@etprs.phys.tue.nl From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:26 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:32:43 GMT Organization: My own musings. Lines: 91 Message-ID: <3120a1da.11961641@canberra.dialix.oz.au> References: <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> <1996Feb9.072454.10229@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:24:54 GMT, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> timmaude@hookup.net (Tim Maude) wri tes: >>I am considering a job in Africa. Internet service provider not >>available because the phones don't work. Can you help with some >>answers to these questions? >>1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first >>priority) or WWW. ? > >Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud. > >>2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and >>knowledge? > >A license and a cooperating station on the other end are the only >other things you'd need. (Plus some prayers to the propagation gods >couldn't hurt.) > >>3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet? > >Dreadful. The speed is limited to 300 baud, which is bad enough, >but because amateur packet doesn't use FEC, and HF is noisy, real >throughput can be measured with an hourglass. > >>4. Would satellite UHF be a better option. The site is on the >>equator. > >If you can afford it, Immarsat data terminals (2400 baud) are >available. Terminal prices approach $10,000, and connect time >charges are measured in dollars per minute. > >OTOH, you could use amateur radio store and forward satellites. >It would be Email only, but fairly simple equipment can be used, >and there are no connect time charges. Speed is 9600 baud too. >As with all other amateur radio approaches, however, there are >content restrictions, IE no business communications, no dirty >words, etc. > >Gary >-- >Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary >534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | Or, alternatively, you CAN, quite reliably, use 1200 baud Phase Shift Keying (PSK) TNC's on H.F. Radio. Many are operating on the amateur radio frequencies from about 14.105 to about 14.109 or thereabouts. They sound like a chainsaw when you hear 'em. Tuning, on your receiver, is fairly critical and may need some patience until the screen fills up with intelligible stuff remebering that the packet radio BBS's forwarding on those frequencies also compress their data to cut down transmission time. That will make the stuff look a bit unintelligible but much of it will NOT be compressed and after the patient tuning (depends on the quality of your receiver's tuning dial, as well, and the tuning resolution it offers) it will all come clear. Try the G3RUH PSK modem kit and this will give 1200 baud on H.F. There are a couple of commercial TNC manufacturers who offer 1200 baud PSK TNC's (Terminal Node Controllers). I have a Telereader Allmode Terminal Node Controller TNC-24 MkII which is popular but I know there are other commercial units. The TNC acts as an interface between your radio and the computer and decodes the packet radio information as it comes in off the radio into intelligent serial data which it feeds down (and takes data out of) your COM port on your computer. Use a simple telephone modem program to send an receive this data but, better still, use a dedicated Packet Radio software program to get greater ease of use and more features specific to the utilities available with this mode...... Kindest regards, Bob ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@canberra.DIALix.oz.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:27 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!nntp.coast.net!col.hp.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa? Message-ID: <1996Feb9.072454.10229@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:24:54 GMT Lines: 42 In article <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> timmaude@hookup.net (Tim Maude) writ es: >I am considering a job in Africa. Internet service provider not >available because the phones don't work. Can you help with some >answers to these questions? >1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first >priority) or WWW. ? Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud. >2. Would I need anything more than radio, antenna, TNC , software and >knowledge? A license and a cooperating station on the other end are the only other things you'd need. (Plus some prayers to the propagation gods couldn't hurt.) >3. What kind of bandwidth can I get out of HF packet? Dreadful. The speed is limited to 300 baud, which is bad enough, but because amateur packet doesn't use FEC, and HF is noisy, real throughput can be measured with an hourglass. >4. Would satellite UHF be a better option. The site is on the >equator. If you can afford it, Immarsat data terminals (2400 baud) are available. Terminal prices approach $10,000, and connect time charges are measured in dollars per minute. OTOH, you could use amateur radio store and forward satellites. It would be Email only, but fairly simple equipment can be used, and there are no connect time charges. Speed is 9600 baud too. As with all other amateur radio approaches, however, there are content restrictions, IE no business communications, no dirty words, etc. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.emi.net!news From: dasosnin@emi.net (David Sosnin) Subject: Landline BBS and TNC Door X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Reply-To: dasosnin@emi.net Sender: news@emi.net (EmiNet Domain News Admin) Organization: The Devil's Den BBS Message-ID: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: taz.emi.net Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 17:01:03 GMT Lines: 14 Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. There are Hams in the area that would probably like to do this so they can see if they want to spend the money for packet equipment. It will give them a taste of what they could be enjoying. It needs to me a DOS based program. Thanks for any help. David Sosnin N4TTN dasosnin@emi.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:29 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.emi.net!news From: dasosnin@emi.net (David Sosnin) Subject: Re: LOGGING SOFTWARE X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Reply-To: dasosnin@emi.net Sender: news@emi.net (EmiNet Domain News Admin) Organization: The Devil's Den BBS Message-ID: References: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: taz.emi.net Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:11:22 GMT Lines: 14 Can anyone tell me some GOOD logging software that I can use for my Ham Radio Log? I can use either Windows based or DOS based. If you could tell me where to find it and a little bit about it would be great. Thanks N4TTN From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:30 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!news.nic.surfnet.nl!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!winternet.com!mschwarz From: mschwarz@winternet.com (Michael Schwarz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Maritime TCP/IP or AX.25? Date: 13 Feb 1996 16:40:21 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4fqetl$ie1@blackice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: klondike.winternet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello, I'm new to the group so please forgive me if I'm posting "off base." I'm N0ZES but I'm asking this question on behalf of a friend who's going off on an "around the world" sailing trip. They'll have GPS and maritime radio and all those goodies, but they're asking me about having Internet access on the trip. (They know I do TCP/IP via packet). I told them that they can get licensed and do packet, but that most packet is VHF/UHF which is only to the horizon. I told them that they *can* do packet via HF, but the baud rates are low and the reliability even lower. Basically, I said to them that they need a 300-baud acoustic coupled modem and they dial in at ports of call. They'll do that (they'll be in ports where more advanced modems are virtually certain not to work!). Finally, I said the only solution that seemed viable to me was some sort of satellite based communications. I'm *totally* ignorant of satellite communications, both ham and non-ham. I wonder if anyone in this group has any info on digital satellite TCP/IP, packet, or even satellite "cellular" (which would let them use a modem). Any suggestions for my (much richer than me) friend? Please reply by e-mail to mschwarz@winternet.com or n0zes@n0zes.ampr.org Thanks and 73s! -- Michael A. Schwarz Minneapolis, MN mschwarz@winternet.com n0zes@n0zes.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:31 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: mclendon@ix.netcom.com(Mike McLendon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem! Date: 9 Feb 1996 13:19:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4ffhlq$925@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-rtp4-28.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Feb 09 5:19:54 AM PST 1996 In sassano@pcnet.com (Felix G. Sassano, M.D.) writes: > >My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up >an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I >normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5 >plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and >Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine. When I plugged >the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per >manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being >used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I >use it. Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something? > >Thanks and 73 > >de KC1H > >-- >"primum non nocere" Hello Felix, I suggest you use the original AFSK cable but do not connect to the audio in on the Omni (you don't need it if you are using FSK). I had to invert the 1278 mark space to make my setup work with the Omni, but I haven't had any PTT problems. Good luck Dr. S. and let us know what you found. 73 Mke KE4END From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:33 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!thunder.mgl.ca!granite.sentex.net!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!hgoldste From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem! Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:04:28 GMT Organization: disorganization Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: hg@n2wx.ampr.org NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.mpcs.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.5) On 6 Feb 1996 04:35:46 GMT, Felix G. Sassano, M.D. wrote: : My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up : an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I : normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5 : plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and : Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine. When I plugged : the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per : manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being : used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I : use it. Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something? No, you have it right. Use the original PTT line. On my TS850S I just leave everything hooked up the way it was for AFSK (which includes the PTT) and it works fine. The FSK keying goes out the other cable. -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx / From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:34 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!fdurt1.fdu.edu!xyzzy.bubble.org!newshost.cyberramp.net!news.iadfw.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: MFJ-1278B/Ten-Tec Omni V -> FSK problem! Message-ID: <1996Feb9.070130.10026@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:01:30 GMT Lines: 24 In article sassano@pcnet.com wri tes: >My MFJ-1278B TNC has an 8 pin IDC connector that will allow me to hook up >an FSK connection to my Ten-Tec Omni V. (one pin ground, one pin FSK). I >normally hook up the TNC/HF rig using the AFSK mode with a cable (DIN 5 >plug that allows me to hook up to the HF rig using the PTT, Audio IN and >Audio OUT plugs on the back of the Ten-Tec....worked fine. When I plugged >the FSK cable to the Mark-Space plug on the rear of the Ten-Tec (as per >manual), I can not key the HF rig. (PTT, audio IN & audio OUT are being >used). The RTTY plug on the Ten-Tec is to ground and I get key-down when I >use it. Can I tap into the original PTT cable or am I missing something? It would appear that Ten-Tec intends you to use the RTTY jack on their radio for PTT during RTTY operation, and use the Mark-Space jack for modulation. Therefore, simply connect the TNC PTT out line to the Ten-Tec RTTY jack when you want to operate RTTY. I'm sure this is explained in the Ten-Tec manual under RTTY operation. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:35 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!caen!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MY NEW EXPERIENCE..... PLS READ Date: 8 Feb 1996 07:13:37 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4fcpdh$cda@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello everyone, I am very new to this SW and SAT stufff, well last night I decided to give it a shot... I dloaded a piece of software to track satellites, and found a FAQ in requards to the subject. I ran the software and setup on a paticular SAT. RS-12/13, I couldnt believe it, it reached the bahamas and I started to hear a faint beacon, as it went north it got stronger. WHAT A RUSH, I loved it, man this stuff is fun.... If anyone has any SAT info in reguards to Weather sat PICS, I would love to here from ya, as I am a weather nut........ THANX IN ADVANCE!!! 73's JEFF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:36 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!pc From: ppiercey@nlnet.nf.ca (Paul J. Piercey (VO1HE)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: need help using a laptop computer for packet... Date: Sat, 10 Feb 96 02:59:28 GMT Organization: NLNet Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fh1mg$ms_001@vo1he.ampr.org> References: <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: terra.nlnet.nf.ca X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article <4f8rm5$hd0@knot.queensu.ca>, 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca (Sherwin Lim) wrote: >hello all... >can anyone help me how to connect my KPC-3 tnc to my laptop? the >connection from the tnc to the computer requires an RS-232 serial port >with a DB-25 connector... but my laptop only has a 9 pin serial port. > >any suggestions as to how to connect my tnc to my laptop? > >sherwin ve7hqt > > > Check out a local computer store and pick up a serial cable with a 9 pin female on one end and a 25 pin male on the other. I have one that is only 12in long and is great for portable operations. the pins should be connected properly. Just make sure it's not a null-modem cable. ============================================================================ Paul J. Piercey VO1HE [44.135.16.3] Packet Address VO1HE@VO1AAA.#ENF.NF.CAN.NOAM Internet Address ppiercey@nlnet.nf.ca ============================================================================ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:37 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!matlock.mindspring.com!news.mindspring.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: jon@g7jjf.DEmon.co.UK (Jon Welch) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: New Packet Shareware Home Page Date: 7 Feb 96 18:14:25 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 52 Message-ID: <1322@g7jjf.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: jon@g7jjf.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hi All, I would just like to announce that I have set up a small Home Page on the WWW to act as a support site for my range of Shareware Packet Radio TNC Driver Software. I have written three programs which run under DOS on IBM-PC Compatible computers. The programs shares a common feature set and user interface but offer extra facilities specific to the configuration it is running on. These include integrated Personal Mail System with FBB compatible compressed forwarding, split screen or full screen display, 500 line scroll back buffer with search facilities, pop up menu driven YAPP and ASCII file transfer facilities, connect directory, directory browser with comprehensive file viewer, file and notepad editor, clipboard editor with associated functions, UUencode and UUdecode of files, 7PLUS encoding and decoding of files, REQDIR and REQFIL facilities with automatic uuencoding or 7PLUS encoding of binary REQFIL requests, simple to use yet sophisticated script language for automatic operation, timed execution of script files, a screen blanker, FBB header broadcast support plus many more. The three versions are : TNCV142 for use with a standard TNC MUBAY102 for use with a Baycom modem or KISS mode TNC MUTNC205 for use with the BPQ software To hopefully encourage you to access the site and download the software, I am running a weekly Free Prize Draw offering a Free registration to any of the above programs to the lucky winner. The URL for the site is : http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwelch Please drop by and take a look. Bye for now, Jon. /=====================================+======================================\ | jon@g7jjf.demon.co.uk Internet | Providing Support For : | | G7JJF @ GB7MAM.#23.GBR.EU AX25 | TNCV142, MUTNC205, MUBAY102 | +=====================================+======================================+ | Latest Versions Of TNC Driver Softare Available From : | | http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jwelch | \============================================================================/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.inc.net!news.sol.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!homer.alpha.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!airdata.com!usenet From: jeff.mcleman@airdata.com (Jeff McLeman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: One Radio with jnos and kpc-9612 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 15:23:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Wireless Services Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4fnm62$hc1@www.airdata.com> References: Reply-To: jeff.mcleman@airdata.com NNTP-Posting-Host: jmclemanlap.nwest.airdata.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 paul@ke6et.clark.net (Paul B. Schou) wrote: >Has anyone tried using a single radio on both ports of a kpc-9612? >1200 Baud to the regular mike and audio connectors and 9600 to the >modified i/o connectors. Will the jnos attach and attach kiss commands >handle multiple speed inputs from the same radio? I sort of doubt it, >but thought I'd ask before attacking the hardware. >Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World >Internet: paul@ke6et.clark.net - Packet: ke6et@ke6et.md.usa.noam I don't know if this is possible, but I believe the Kenwood 733A has separate outputs for 1200 and 9600 on the Packet connector. It might be possible to use the same radio for 1200 baud 2meter and 9600 baud 440Mhz. But again, I have never tried this, and probobly won't for a while..... Jeff -- KD1IT ------------------------------------------------------------ Jeff McLeman jeff.mcleman@airdata.com AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Wireless Data Division Kirkland, Wa. attmail!jeffmc http://www.airdata.com/ "Wireless in Seattle!" ---------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:39 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!cats.ucsc.edu!haynes From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (James H. Haynes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: One Week to Green Key Night (& Day) Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:20:20 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4fqo9k$rfs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu Remember Feb 20 is Green Key Night (& Day) - commemorate the beginning of RTTY on the HF bands. Not a contest, no rules, no score, but Use a mechanical teleprinter if you can Use vacuum tube gear if you can Use 850 Hz shift if you can Wallow in nostalgia and above all have fun! From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:40 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!newshost.convex.com!news.duke.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PACKET Date: 9 Feb 1996 05:44:09 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4ff8hp$9d8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello everyone, Is it possible to RECIEVE ONLY packet via the hamcom/JVFAX interface?? Any help would be greatly appreciated 73'S JEFF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:41 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!netaxs.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!news.bhp.com.au!news.itmel.bhp.com.au!usenet From: "David B. Henderson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: 8 Feb 1996 02:16:19 GMT Organization: BHP Information Technology Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4fbmdj$m30@gossamer.itmel.bhp.com.au> References: <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> <31174007.10272239@canberra.dialix.oz.au> <4fbclr$t5g@news1.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.18.40.239 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news://news.itmel.bhp.com.au/4fbclr$t5g@news1.ucsd.edu brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) wrote: >vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au writes: >>Using a voice frequency repeater for packet radio as a digi is NOT so uncomm on. > >In common usage among most packet people, a 'digi' is a device that >stores one or more packets and then retransmits them as soon as the >channel is clear, without hop-to-hop acknowledgements. The >retransmission is NOT simultaneous as it is in a voice repeater. In addition, one has to consider: (a) the implications this would have on the collision domain of the frame; and (b) the impact of the filtering, phase 'mangling', etc. of the repeater's audi o train on the frame - as Brian pointed out, the digital information is not recovered and then re-encoded on a voice repeater -- it is shipped 'straight t hrough'. David. ===/\/\================================================================= / / /\ : D Henderson, Network Consultant, BHP Information Technology / / / \ : PO Box 261, Warrawong, NSW 2502, AUSTRALIA / / / /\ \ : Internet(@work): wehend@itwol.bhp.com.au +61 42 75 3807 \ \/ / / / : (@play): vk2kwy@hamgate.gw.uow.edu.au \ / / / : AMPRNet (@home): vk2kwy@snoopy.vk2kwy.ampr.org ==\/\/\/================================================================ Disclaimer: Comments made are the professional opinion of the author and are not necessarily those of the Broken Hill Proprietary Co. Ltd. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:42 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!linux.liant.com!usenet From: Robert Barron Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: Wed, 07 Feb 1996 09:38:33 -0600 Organization: Liant Software Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3118C779.522A@liant.com> References: <1996Jan26.225352.14479@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4erjuu$nu$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <3113a906.109720255@a3bsrv.nai.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: barron.liant.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b5 (Win95; I) Brian Ellsworth wrote: > > On 1 Feb 1996 23:56:14 GMT, Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> > wrote: > > >3) using a VOICE rptr channel for packet is poor spectrum > >usage...it would be wasting a rptr channel that voice users could > >use... > > Oh sure and everyone knows that all the voice repeaters are SOOOOOO > busy with important stuff and all. > > Putting a packet repeater on the wasteland of idle voice machines > sounds like a great idea. And it's totally legal as well. You'll have > a ton of trouble with the ol' boyz repeater co-ordination clubs > though. I agree. Using a repeater for packet is NOT poor spectrum usage. In many cases using a simplex channel is poor usage since the throughput on that frequency is often so bad due to hidden transmitters, etc. A couple of people here in Austin, TX are going to set up a 440MHz repeater for the local PacketCluster. It should provide a big improvement over the current situation. Of course moving to 9600 baud should also help. :-) 73, Robert, KA5WSS barron@liant.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:44 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: 7 Feb 1996 19:25:19 GMT Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4fauav$51m$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: <1996Feb4.141714.14973@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA coordinates all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet is a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has traditionally been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State packet organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is allowed to act as coordinator for simplex packet. ------------------------------------------------------- I disagree....if a duplex packet digi is set up ONLY to pass data and NOT voice, it is a digi-peater and can operate ANYWHERE in the band it wants to...just like a simplex digi....NOW if it is an analog rptr that passes ANYTHING, then it must remain in the repeater subbands....but to pass ONLY AX.25 packets, it is free to go anywhere it wishes Chris Ex Board of Directors member and life member- TX VHF FM Society; RF Technical Director - Texas Coastal Amateur Packet Society (TCAPS) -- Senior Telecommunications Technician 72732.2610@CompuServe.com ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities 1:106/4267 FIDOnet WB5ITT - Advanced Class BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS) PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial 409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:44 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!thunder.mgl.ca!granite.sentex.net!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!nntp.ampex.com!news From: bryan@ampex.com (Bryan Curl) Subject: Re: Paket for Windows Message-ID: Sender: news@ampex.com Nntp-Posting-Host: cos-ampex Organization: Ampex Corp. COS X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 References: <4eoq2h$e24@usenet4.interramp.com> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 05:00:54 GMT Lines: 30 In article <4eoq2h$e24@usenet4.interramp.com>, rhignite@interramp.com says... > >In article <4emcsi$a9u@usenet.pa.dec.com>, p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) >writes: > >>bryan@ampex.com (Bryan Curl) wrote: > >>>Please don't bother sending info on WINPACK (a program out of Europe). >>>I looked at it and must say, it fits the mode of most European software >>>I've had the opportunity to try...feeble at best. The author of this >>>piece admits he hated evry minute writing it, and it shows. > >> I think you are extremely impolite in your response. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > >Amen! I think Roger has done a fantastic job with WinPack - obviously >Bryan hasn't gotten beyond appliance operator. > >Rod - KB3MK Sorry Pete...Sometimes the truth hurts. Perhaps alt.collecting.teddy-bears is more for you. I couldn't help but to notice an appliance operators callsign on Rods Sig. Thanks to the folks that had serious replys. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:45 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!blackbush.xlink.net!zib-berlin.de!uni-paderborn.de!news.sni.de!schro From: schro@pdb.sni.de (W.F.Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: problems in Packet Radio..???? Solution, now! Date: 7 Feb 1996 10:37:00 GMT Organization: none Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4f9vcc$2nf@nervous.pdb.sni.de> References: <4e92q6$lsm@minerva.ibernet.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: norton.pdb.sni.de In <4e92q6$lsm@minerva.ibernet.es> coyote@lleida.net (Coyote) writes: >If do you have problems with packet-radio, you have one solution downloading the file "TALION18.ARJ" in >FTP.FUNET.FI/HAM/PACKET/TERMINAL. Directory entry: talion18.arj 30-Nov-95 00:17 663K The index says: talion18.arj Talion Packet Terminal (Shareware) in Spanish >The problems are over. ... unless you don't speak Spanish :-) 73 Django From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:46 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.telepac.pt!usenet From: Francisco Costa Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud Date: 14 Feb 1996 00:07:51 GMT Organization: telepac Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4fr94n$mke@vivaldi.telepac.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: bj1_p1.telepac.pt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Hi My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version). He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess. Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out! All cables, connectors and tnc are OK. The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work! It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem. Is it a E version problem??? Do you know why this happen??? Have you any solution??? And what about covering other freqs. Is it possible to "open" the rig's range??? I'll apreciate very much your help. Many thanks in advance. Best 73's from CT1EAT From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:47 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!DIALix!canberra.DIALix.oz.au!Newsmaster From: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: re packet on voice repeaters Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT Organization: My own musings. Lines: 68 Message-ID: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Reply-To: vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au NNTP-Posting-Host: @dialup001.canberra.dialix.com.au Hi All! In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a 'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and, therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.). I guess there must be some cultural/national differences between using the terms. Here in Australia (and New Zealand) the digi's are not similtaneous devices (usually!) and they accept a digital signal and send it out again once it has reassembled the packet/s but not whilst it is receiving the original packet/s. There are SOME plans around Australia for hill-top linear translators which do not re-assemble the packet but "translate" it to another frequency. My understanding is that these translators just heterodyne the incoming RF signal, whatever its content or protocol (TCP/IP or vanilla AX25) to another output frequency. I believe that the guys in VK1 (Australian Capital Territory or ACT) were toying with the idea because it was not conscious of the protocols it was sent and would retransmit all it was sent without change other than frequency. They, like myself. enjoy fiddlin' with TCP/IP a lot and they didn't have too much cash around to go building full scale mountain-top computer/TNC combinations which would handle multi protocol, multi speed (baud rates) for all the possible combinations of modes, protocols, and speeds that flash around the amateur radio spectrum in Canberra, the National Capital of Australia. It is my contention that something like a Kam Data Engine with it's ROMS blown with JNOS4.0 would do that trick just as well but, perhaps, not as cheaply. That will do multi protocols, AX25 vanilla packet AND TCP/IP and at a number of different baud rates on a number of different frequencies, depending on the configuration and the hardware hanging off it (radio's, any additional TNC's etc.). Anyway, it was originally a topic about using voice repeaters for digital modes. I made a statement in my original posting that some voice repeaters here in the country areas in Australia and in New Zealand (my home country) are used, oftimes in the wee small hours, for BBS forwarding and file transfers between other areas where there is no reliable or available digipeater paths (refer to my note above for the definition). Like many countries, the major metropolitan centres, the cities etc., have good digital paths (mostly at 1200 baud though there are some 4800 and 9600 baud BBS and NOS forwarding paths but not, generally, for the actual users at their keyboards). The country areas, with a less well populated amateur fraternity, often make do with whatever is conveniently available and this can be, in a few areas in Australia, a voice repeater on 2 metres being used as a digital mode path to another BBS or TCP/IP station. Kindest regards, Bob ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@canberra.DIALix.oz.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:48 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.intelenet.com!unogate!mvb.saic.com!homer.alpha.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!news.sol.net!uniserve!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!airwaves!rrb From: Duncan.Pomeroy@exeter.ac.uk Newsgroups: rec.radio.broadcasting,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sci.electronics Subject: REQ: RDS Demodulator Followup-To: rec.radio.broadcasting Date: 7 Feb 1996 06:22:56 GMT Organization: University of Exeter, UK Lines: 9 Approved: rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us Distribution: world Message-ID: <4f9gg0$783@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: clm.aiss.uiuc.edu X-Disclaimer: This article reflects the views of its author(s). X-Disclaimer: It does not necessarily reflect the views of the moderator X-Disclaimer: of this public forum Originator: rrb@clm.aiss.uiuc.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.broadcasting:20657 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14061 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24804 I am an undergraduate at Exeter University who desperately needs a RDS Demodulator chip for my final year project. I had one on order but the supplier has just announced that there is a 40 WEEK! waiting list. The chip I am after is a TDA 7330 or equivalent but any RDS demodulator will do! If you have one or Know anyone who has please leave a message here or email me . From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.gdbnet.ad.jp!news.hebel.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.tele.fi!news.csc.fi!news.eunet.fi!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!erinews.ericsson.se!eua.ericsson.se!news.algonet.se!pc4021h From: sm2irz@algonet.se (Sune Nyholm) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Sanco WWW Bulletine Board System Date: Thu, 08 Feb 96 01:08:21 GMT Organization: Sanco Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4fbe7h$cb0@prometheus.algonet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: sophocles.algonet.se X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 Hello! A new Bulletine Board System on WWW specialy made for questions and answers about PacCom, BayCom and TEKK products. The board will be increased with more areas in the future. Please check in and post some questions or answers if you have any! adress: http://www.algonet.se/~sm2irz/wwwboard/board.htm 73 Sune From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:51 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!nikel.demon.co.uk From: Nidge Jones Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal? Date: Sun, 11 Feb 96 21:54:37 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <824075677snz@nikel.demon.co.uk> References: Reply-To: Nidge@nikel.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: nikel.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 X-Mail2News-Path: nikel.demon.co.uk In article chris@kd3bj.ampr.org "C. T. Nadovich" writes: > chris@kd3bj.ampr.org (C. T. Nadovich) writes: > > >Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this > >program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate > >having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtural one!). If you are running Tnos under linux then the Tnos FAQ file will tell you how to edit your inittab file to start Tnos at boot - and also if need be get the kernel to ping tnos every 15 minutes to make sure it hasn't crashed. If it has linux it will kill the tnos process and restart it ! If you have problems get yourself on the Tnos mailing list (agn see faq). -- Nidge Jones nidge@nikel.demon.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:51 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!rmstar.efi.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!eur.nl!popeye.eur.nl!not-for-mail From: 112086am@student.eur.nl (Andre Mense) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Wanted : Baycom manual Date: 11 Feb 1996 04:15:00 GMT Organization: Erasmus Universiteit Rotterdam Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4fjqg4$lgk@popeye.eur.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: rem-223-10.remote.eur.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Hi all, I'm working with a homemade Baycom modem and software, and I'm looking for a manual or FAQ or Readme on how to use the software. An older version is most welcom as well. Maybe I will translate it in Dutch. Please email to 112086am@student.eur.nl ; 73 de PE1HWO From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:52 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!merlion.singnet.com.sg!lantana.singnet.com.sg!ts900-3325 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 96 03:53:15 GMT Organization: Singapore Telecom Internet Service Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4fmdil$6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts900-3325.singnet.com.sg X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2 Hi, Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should have ie. NORD> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 Date: 13 Feb 1996 17:04:16 GMT Organization: Thank You, but no. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4fqgag$9mm@news2.deltanet.com> References: <4fmdil$6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg> NNTP-Posting-Host: ana2073.deltanet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for >the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should >have ie. NORD>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere >although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version. WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The "latest" is at least three years old, however. -------------------------------------- Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:54 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ramlink.net!news From: subich@ramlink.net (Joe Subich) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: White Pages Server Date: 11 Feb 1996 22:51:37 GMT Organization: RAMLink Internet Access Service Lines: 39 Message-ID: <4flrtp$4cj@ram2.ramlink.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: hun25.ramlink.net X-Newsreader: NeoLogic News for OS/2 [version: 4.2] In message <4f764u$dkm@slip.net> - Bill Choisser writes: :> :>The National WP database is now at N6IYA.#CENCA.CA.USA.NOAM located :>near Santa Cruz, CA. :> :>You're right about AD8I. He was the national server prior to IYA. :> :>73, Larry, WB9LOZ@W6PW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM :>lkenney@slip.net :>San Francisco :> :> This is one of the major problems with all of the autofrowarding systems - every regional clique has to "capture" the national WP server in their own area. When I ceased operation the National WP database was turned over to K1LT in the Columbus Ohio area (the area that I was leaving). K1LT is relatively centrally located and has connectivity via a hidden transmitter free high speed (> 9K6) network to stations on all of the major HF packet forwarding networks providing high efficiency updates and responses. However, it now seems that regional groups on the west coast, Florida, New England and how many others I can't even determine have set up their own "supreme WP server" ... I'll bet the servers don't even bother to send updates any more. In any case, my relocation was a blessing in disguise ... It forced me to pull the plug on operations and allowed me to see the political *BS* for what it really is. The new rules allowing unattended "semi-automatic" operation in any portion of the CW band, the notorious inability of amateurs to cooperate with each other, and the political *BS* have made a shambles of the system many of us worked so hard to build over nearly a decade. 73, ... Joe Subich, AD8I (subich@ramlink.net) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:55 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!usenet From: Gerald Schmitt Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 08:33:25 -0700 Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 18 Message-ID: <311A17C5.2822@eule.lanl.gov> References: <4fbf78$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eule.lanl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.01 9000/735) Pete.. wrote: > > Hello ALL > > Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets. He has > uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's. > It is on teleco..com in directory /in.comming that is not a typo. However as of 03:50 UTC on the 8th the protections were set wrong and it could not be downloaded. Perhaps someone at telecom could address this problem. 73 de Jerry From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:56 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!torn!newshost.uwo.ca!MBRAMWEL.business.uwo.ca!mbramwel From: mbramwel@ashley.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here! Date: Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT Organization: Western Business School Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <4fbf78$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> <311A17C5.2822@eule.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: mbramwel.business.uwo.ca X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] >Pete.. wrote: >> >> Hello ALL >> >> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets. He has >> uploaded it not a number of phone BBS's. >> It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:57 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: jes@cbus.mindspring.com (Eddie Seymour) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here! Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:53:44 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 17 Message-ID: <311bddf3.6971587@news.mindspring.com> References: <4fbf78$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> <311A17C5.2822@eule.lanl.gov> Reply-To: jes@cbus.mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: jes.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99d/32.182 On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT, mbramwel@ashley.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell) wrote: > >>Pete.. wrote: >>> >>> Hello ALL >>> >>> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets. >It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet >The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site. This site has Winpack 5.13 in this location- I did not see 5.4. Does anyone have a location on 5.4 yet? Thanks Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail jes@cbus.mindspring.com Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:58 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!usenet From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Winpack V5.4 now available- WHERE ? Here! Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 23:38:33 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fj6ho$6ot@usenet.pa.dec.com> References: <4fbf78$363@usenet.pa.dec.com> <311A17C5.2822@eule.lanl.gov> <311bddf3.6971587@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 16.172.48.48 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 I just got it from MSN !!!. If you know someone that has access to it, it's there !!! jes@cbus.mindspring.com (Eddie Seymour) wrote: >On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 22:03:34 GMT, mbramwel@ashley.business.uwo.ca (Mark >Bramwell) wrote: >> >>>Pete.. wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello ALL >>>> >>>> Roger has just advised the Winpack V5.4 has hit the streets. >>It is on hamster.business.uwo.ca in pub/packet >>The Amsoft CD-Rom is also online at the same site. >This site has Winpack 5.13 in this location- I did not see 5.4. >Does anyone have a location on 5.4 yet? Thanks >Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE >E-Mail jes@cbus.mindspring.com >Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam Cheers..Peter e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer does not have the right to use my opinions.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:55:59 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interport.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!news-admin From: Joe Laganga Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WTB: NETROM firmware Date: 12 Feb 1996 02:54:41 GMT Organization: InternetMCI Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4fma5h$sha@news.internetmci.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup793.chicago.mci.net I'm looking for a place to buy (?) firmware to turn a PK-88 TNC into a NETROM node. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance..Joe N1EZO/8 From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:56:00 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.une.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!tmx!news.tmx.com.au!news.acay.com.au!news From: spiro evagelakos (spiroe@acay.com.au) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:19:25 GMT Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4fn47d$j76@www.acay.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: spiroe.acay.com.au X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:428 aus.radio.amateur.wicen:67 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19019 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14094 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24856 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13283 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98001 rec.radio.scanner:45416 rec.radio.swap:57330 This time I am after a second hand 5KW AM Transmitter Regards Spiro From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:56:00 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!ns.saard.net!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.une.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!tmx!news.tmx.com.au!news.acay.com.au!news From: spiro evagelakos (spiroe@acay.com.au) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: WTB:AMATURE TRANSMITTER @ 160MTRS Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:15:25 GMT Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4fn3vt$j76@www.acay.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: spiroe.acay.com.au X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:427 aus.radio.amateur.wicen:66 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19018 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14093 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24855 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13282 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98000 rec.radio.scanner:45415 rec.radio.swap:57329 Hi , I am after a second hand amature transmitter for the 160mtr band Regards Spiro From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:56:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!munnari.OZ.AU!mel.dit.csiro.au!actcsiro!news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!wabbit.cc.uow.edu.au!news.une.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!tmx!news.tmx.com.au!news.acay.com.au!news From: spiro evagelakos (spiroe@acay.com.au) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: WTB:LINEAR AMPLIFIER FOR 160MTR BAND Date: 12 Feb 1996 10:17:15 GMT Organization: ACAY Network Computing P/L, Sydney AUSTRALIA. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4fn43b$j76@www.acay.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: spiroe.acay.com.au X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:426 aus.radio.amateur.wicen:65 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19017 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14092 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24854 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13281 rec.radio.amateur.misc:97999 rec.radio.scanner:45414 rec.radio.swap:57328 Hi , I am after a second hand linear Amplifier for the 160mtr band Regards Spiro From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:56:02 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.localnet.com!intac!uunet!in1.uu.net!world!mv!wd1v.mv.com!user From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: WWW Mac Ham User Group Home Page Message-ID: Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Wed, 7 Feb 1996 10:20:39 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wd1v.mv.com Lines: 12 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| E-mail: john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Drive |_| |_| WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| Skytel Page: 5956779@skymail.com VM + Auto-Pager: 603-533-3472 | | | | | AX.25: wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam LeCroy Sales Engineer + Applications/Sales/Customer Service + 800-553-2769 [See Latest Digital Scope.FAQ on my Home Page] We must believe in free will. We have no choice. (I.B. Singer) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 13 20:56:03 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "Stan R. Coleman" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:37:20 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4fqp9g$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-0.tcgcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: This,is,a,Test....Looking,for,information I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert System. It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well. If any one has any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me know. What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over the repeaters. So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or Repeaters. I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines. I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus maybe a microprocessor to make all this work. ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:22 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!news.pge.com!sjd2ws02.comp.pge.com!sjd2 From: sjd2@pge.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: APRS 2MTR FREQ??? Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:51:17 UNDEFINED Organization: Pacific Gas & Electric Co. Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sjd2ws02.comp.pge.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] I'm a newbie APRS type (just installed the shareware version) and haven't a clue as to which frequency in my area might yield some results. I'm located near San Luis Obispo, California........so is there a common frequency that APRS traffic is passed on? The blank map is getting terribly boring Thanks, Shawn WB6JWB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:23 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!usenet From: chuck Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Broadcasting Radio Station Database for you...... Date: 12 Feb 1996 04:04:46 GMT Organization: Orchid City Software Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4fme8u$bsf@news.flinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wpb46.flinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.shortwave:70065 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19052 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14132 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24923 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13323 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98059 rec.radio.amateur.policy:33090 rec.radio.amateur.space:6321 rec.radio.noncomm:5156 rec.radio.scanner:45512 rec.radio.swap:57465 Friend, A fully functional standalone Broadcasting Radio Station Database for IBM and compatibles with more than 4,000 Radio Station records already. This program covers stations on Longwave, Mediumwave, and Shortwave. Each record contains the Station name, Frequencies, Schedule, Languages, Country, and Continent. The program sorts in same order. What's needed to get it? Your EMail address and your Postal Mailing address for registration and future information via Post of other Radio Related Database programs. This information will be kept confidential. If you can read a document written in MS Word(extension is DOC), request the operating instructions for the Radio Station Database Program called Voyageur. You'll get an idea from reading this document of the Voyageur Database and what it does. Incidently, the program offered with this notice is valid until June 6, 1996. Hope to hear from you.. Chuck KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:24 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: kleite@carajas.homeshopping.COM.BR Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Contesters E-mail List.... Date: 14 Feb 96 01:04:05 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 17 Message-ID: <9602140104.AA02395@carajas> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Dear Fellows, First of all my apologize for trouble in forwarding part of the list... I have the complete list and I already forwarded to DX-Reflector. I received that list from George Fremim, WB5VZL, at E-mail: geoiii@bga.com He made excellent job, congratulations George! Thank you for your best understanding. Vy best 73 & DX's de PS7KM, ============================================================ Karl M Leite, Natal, RN, Brazil, South America E-mail:- kleite@br.homeshopping.com.br ============================================================ * UniQWK #1812* Please, remember - DXman never sleep!!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:25 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!feenix.metronet.com!news From: mercury@metronet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: F.S. Laptop Toshiba 1000 DFW area only. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:44:06 -0600 Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/488-2590 - 817/571-0400)) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <31221156.3C30@metronet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal78.metronet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Toshiba laptop T1000. This unit has a floppy disk and is in good working condition. It works fine when hooked up to a TNC. The original 1.8 amp nicads were replaced with 2.2 nicads about 2 years ago. The operational time with the 1.8 nicads was around 4 hours. I would guess the new opearional time with the 2.2 nicads would be between 6 and 7 hours. Included are a carrying case and a portable fax/modem 96/24. The portable fax/modem can operated via internal battery or wall power. I used the laptop for packet when I was the District Communication Officer for the L.A. County Races group. Otherwise the unit has not been used. Looking for aroun $200 for the package. Would also consider some trading. 73 Charles N6MIT From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:26 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!feenix.metronet.com!news From: mercury@metronet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: F.S. Toshiba Laptop T-1000 Great for Packet. Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:55:43 -0600 Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/488-2590 - 817/571-0400)) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3122140F.1044@metronet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal78.metronet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0GoldB1 (Win95; I) Toshiba laptop T1000. This unit has a floppy disk and is in good working condition. It works fine when hooked up to a TNC. The original 1.8 amp nicads were replaced with 2.2 nicads about 2 years ago. The operational time with the 1.8 nicads was around 4 hours. I would guess the new opearional time with the 2.2 nicads would be between 6 and 7 hours. Included are a carrying case and a portable fax/modem 96/24. The portable fax/modem can operated via internal battery or wall power. I used the laptop for packet when I was the District Communication Officer for the L.A. County Races group. Otherwise the unit has not been used. Looking for aroun $200 for the package. Would also consider some trading. 73 Charles N6MIT From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:27 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!fish.pond.com!kd3bj!jolt.pagesat.net!netserv.com!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!primus.ac.net!news.serv.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!hp.fciencias.unam.mx!usenet From: Carlos Espadas Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: F6FBB WinFBB WHERE ? Date: 12 Feb 1996 01:14:53 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4fm4ad$5jr@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> NNTP-Posting-Host: csline1.cieamer.conacyt.mx Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ???? Tanks you... Carlos Espadas XE3XEX cespadas@cancun.rce.com.mx From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:28 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: dmeredith@phx-az.com (Daniel Meredith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: F6FBB WinFBB WHERE ? Date: 14 Feb 1996 22:42:02 -0700 Organization: ArizonaONE BBS +1-602-912-0225 (F6FBB Support BBS) Lines: 21 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4fuh3a$336@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4fm4ad$5jr@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Reply-To: dmeredith@phx-az.com X-Posted-By: ip142.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Carlos Espadas wrote: >Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ???? >Tanks you... >Carlos Espadas >XE3XEX >cespadas@cancun.rce.com.mx WINFBB Has Not Yet Been Released...Upon the Release, it will be available on the U.S. F6FBB Support BBS: +1-602-912-0225 300-33,600 V.34+ Daniel From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:29 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!pv6f27.vincent.iastate.edu!dmadsen From: dmadsen@iastate.edu (Dean R. Madsen KE0WO) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: F6FBB WinFBB WHERE ? Date: 13 Feb 96 22:23:55 GMT Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <4fm4ad$5jr@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> NNTP-Posting-Host: pv6f27.vincent.iastate.edu In <4fm4ad$5jr@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Carlos Espadas writes: >Hi where is WinFBB for packet radio BBS ???? It hasn't been released yet. Last projection of a release date I saw was March. 73, Dean - KE0WO +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dean R Madsen, KE0WO Computer Science Major + + Internet: dmadsen@iastate.edu Iowa State Univeristy + + ke0wo@iastate.edu Ames, Iowa + + AX25: KE0WO @ KE0WO.#WIA.IA.USA.NA FBB Beta tester Cellist + + Secretary for the Tristate Amateur Packet Association + + Treasurer for the Cyclone Amateur Radio Club + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:30 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: fast packet <--> internet Date: 13 Feb 1996 13:15:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fq2tl$8mb@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-den10-16.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Feb 13 5:15:33 AM PST 1996 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: les@rfx.rfx.com,(Les,Dittert) Hi Les, les@rfx.rfx.com (Les Dittert) wrote: >Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ? >I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and >have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via >remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use >conventional packet radio network protocols to do this. As Gary pointed out, the best way is to extend the Internet protocols over packet using the available hardware and software. >I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from >what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of >text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images >such as WWW pages should be possible. 9600 baud packet provides 500 bytes per second transfer rates (a 14.4kb telco modem gives 1600). Hardware is available to go faster. Start reading on the Colorado Amateur Radio Page at http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/hamradio.html#digital. Also checkout what Kantronics and Paccom are doing. ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:31 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!realtime.net!news.mindspring.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: fast packet <--> internet Message-ID: <1996Feb12.224017.29538@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 22:40:17 GMT Lines: 34 In article les@rfx.rfx.com (Les Dittert) writes: >Does anyone know of a way to connect a packet station to the internet ? >I want to set up a base station , with a high speed packet station, and >have it be online. The end goal is to be able to look at my web page via >remote laptop computer. I'm not sure if it is even worth trying to use >conventional packet radio network protocols to do this. The internet basically runs on TCP/IP protocols, and so can packet radio. On packet, we use some derivative of Phil Karn's NOS such as JNOS or TNOS. These programs can deal with AX25 encapsulation of TCP/IP and with ethernet, or slip, or ppp encapsulation of TCP/IP. So all you need is to setup a box, hooked to the radio and having an ethernet, slip, or ppp connection to the internet, which acts as a router or bridge between packet radio and the wired internet. >I've been out of touch with the packet scene for 5 years now , and from >what I remember it was mostly a BBS style of communicating, with lots of >text and no images. With higher speeds ( > 9600 ) content with images such >as WWW pages should be possible. Possible yes, pleasant no, at least until you get up to some real speed. At 56kb it works well, but 9600 packet is slower than 9600 telco, and it *crawls* when presented with some of the pictures from hell found on some webpages. (Even a 28.8kb telco modem crawls with some of these pictures.) So if you limit the graphics to a *reasonable* size, it's Ok, but text pages are still much more snappy. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:32 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsserver.sdsc.edu!newshub.csu.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!equalizer!timbuk.cray.com!walter.cray.com!jwl From: jwl@cray.com (James W. Lynch) Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Software Message-ID: <1996Feb12.151618.16538@walter.cray.com> Lines: 27 Nntp-Posting-Host: dogwood.cray.com Reply-To: jwl@cray.com Organization: Cray Research, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 021193BETA PL3-CRIb] References: <199602102232.AA041461550@host-04.colby.edu> <4fleh6$8hl@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: 12 Feb 96 15:16:18 CST Bob Nielsen (nielsen@primenet.com) wrote: : aballen@COLBY.EDU (Art Allen) wrote: : >>>>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and : >antenna. : >I dont get involved in these matters of controversy, generally, BUT: : >I recently upgraded punchboxes here and wanted a full featured : >word processor. I had used Word Perfectx and Wordx. I called both : >outfits about latest versions, availability and pricing. Talk about : >sticker shock! Both outfits wanted 300 + dollars for their software! : >I know it takes a LONG time and cost ALOT of $$ to develop these packages : >but one would think the price would come down, eventually..... : Well, if you already had a copy, you could get an upgrade version for : around $90 for either of these. The upgrades are quite extensive in : both of these cases. I wonder if WordPerfect will come out with a 32 : bit version before Novell dumps it. Hi, Bob, I guess you missed it, Novell already dumped it. Jim. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:33 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!spcuna!news.new-york.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!nntp.news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Free or Public Domain Software Date: 11 Feb 1996 12:03:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Lines: 27 Sender: root@primenet.com Message-ID: <4fleh6$8hl@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <199602102232.AA041461550@host-04.colby.edu> X-Posted-By: nielsen.tus.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 aballen@COLBY.EDU (Art Allen) wrote: >>>>Look for one where you found your free computer, TNC, transceiver and >antenna. >I dont get involved in these matters of controversy, generally, BUT: >I recently upgraded punchboxes here and wanted a full featured >word processor. I had used Word Perfectx and Wordx. I called both >outfits about latest versions, availability and pricing. Talk about >sticker shock! Both outfits wanted 300 + dollars for their software! >I know it takes a LONG time and cost ALOT of $$ to develop these packages >but one would think the price would come down, eventually..... Well, if you already had a copy, you could get an upgrade version for around $90 for either of these. The upgrades are quite extensive in both of these cases. I wonder if WordPerfect will come out with a 32 bit version before Novell dumps it. Back to the subject, there's a lot of good free or inexpensive (shareware) software around for many ham applications. Just take a look at ftp.ucsd.edu, for instance. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:34 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.frontiernet.net!gollum.kingston.net!news4.ottawa.istar.net!istar.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Freq ID 3582 USB Date: 14 Feb 1996 14:17:37 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 10 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4ftcgh$5kr@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Hello everyone, Can somebody identify the data beeing sent on this FREQ. I have no idea, to make sure it was not IF. I used the SW radio on the net, same data.... It issort of driving me crazy. Any help would be greatly appreciated.... 73'S JEFF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!ftpbox!mothost!schbbs!news From: Paul Moller Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: MOTOROLA Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:25:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3121FF00.A33@csg.mot.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4fmeuq$cqn@csu-b.csuohio.edu> Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account) Nntp-Posting-Host: 144.188.36.8 Lines: 52 Steve Wolf wrote: > > Ken Wickwire (kwick@mitre.org) wrote: > : Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!: > : > : For some months we've been running tests of throughput > : in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England. > > Hi ... > > I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up > when left unattended in the TOR mode. I had been running MSYS using TOR > with an upgraded KAM. About three times per week the KAM would be left > in a locked state. The red LED would be on continuously and nothing > short of a power down would restore it. > > The KAM was HEAVILY used on a HF port here and trying to duplicate > the problem has been frutile. I have recorded the data to and from the > KAM before, during and after lockups and can not recreate the problem. > > I have now reverted to Pactor as 99.9% of the users start in Pactor > and try GTOR only if the band is in GREAT shape. Left in Pactor, the TNC > is rock solid. > > Leaving the TNC in GTOR is not an option. My users need the Pactor > as many are not running KAMs. (And most are hundreds of miles from a > phone line, hi hi.) Hence, trying to see if the problem is in GTOR is > not an option. I can only verify its occurs in TOR. > > Being that I can record data to and from the KAM<>MSYS path ... and > being that I can not recreate the situtation by duplicating the data, I may > be wrestling with a lockup in the KAM firmware. The KAM is a upgraded > version running 7.1 ROMs. I tried another upgraded KAM but have no KAM+ > to try. > > Anyone see such lockups, please!!!, let the net know. > > -- > 73, > Steve > Internet : no8m@hamnet.org > Amateur Radio : no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na > MSYS Mail List: msys-request@hamnet.org ('info' for title) > > Pactor on 3630. 3632, 3634, 7072, 14072 and 14074 ... 48 seconds per cycle > Near Cleveland, OhioI cannot say that I have had lockups in any TO R modes, because I have not yet used it in any TOR modes. BUT, I can say that it has locked up in Packet mode on 3 occasions in the last 9 months. I called Kantronics about this and they claim operator error saying they have never heard of such a thing. In all cases, a hard reset has been required to bring it back to life. I can tell you the firmware version number if you care. Paul_Moller@csg.mot.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:37 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ub!csn!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!usenet From: buffingt@scf.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HAL P 38 TNC Date: 12 Feb 1996 15:29:12 GMT Organization: USC Law Lines: 20 Sender: buffingt@comserv-h-66.usc.edu Message-ID: <4fnmc8$s1u@usc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: comserv-h-66.usc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38 TNC and other TNCs. The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal for the price. My questions include: 1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions? 2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR? 3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging. Thanks! -- Roger J. Buffington 2L, USC Law Center buffingt@scf.usc.edu AB6WR Go Trojans! WARPing with IBM OS/2 3.0 and PM-Mail Onward thru the fog... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:38 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!news.westnet.com!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HAL P 38 TNC Message-ID: <1996Feb14.164250.7787@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4fnmc8$s1u@usc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 16:42:50 GMT Lines: 51 In article <4fnmc8$s1u@usc.edu> buffingt@scf.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) wri tes: >I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38 >TNC and other TNCs. The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal >for the price. It is. However, it does not support all the digital modes in use on HF. In particular, it doesn't do GTOR, PACTOR II, or packet. Nor does it attempt to do Morse. Packet and Morse are no great loss, of course, and HAL says they will be supporting GTOR, and perhaps PACTOR II, in later updates. >My questions include: > >1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions? Very good. It isn't perfect, but performance in 2FSM is quite good. Where it shines, however, is when conditions are changing or when signals are a bit stronger than the very weakest. Then it "shifts gears" into higher levels of FSM and throughput becomes very good. >2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR? AF in and out and PTT are required between the card and the radio. On the card, they are RCA connectors. What's needed on the radio depends on the radio, of course. Note: this is for Clover, which must operate in the SSB mode of the radio. RTTY, PACTOR, and AMTOR can be done via a FSK connection to the radio. This is a stereo mini-jack on the card, and again the connector at the radio end depends on the radio. You can do these modes via AFSK using the same connections as for Clover, but I'd recomend using the FSK functionality if your radio supports it. With filters optimized for RTTY in your radio, PACTOR performance is outstanding. >3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging. Besides the furnished software, there are a number of other programs available which work with the P-38 API. There's a BBS among other things. And, best of all, you can get full documentation on the API from HAL so that you can write your own software. I don't know if any of the available software includes a logging feature, though the supplied software offers capture to disk, which is the way I "log" contacts of interest. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:39 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.iguide.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Larke Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: How do I get going? Date: Thu, 15 Feb 96 21:14:25 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com I am a radio tech with lille experience. How do i get wireless going in digital. vhf,uhf,lb what freqs are used? I am an 800mhz tech? I want to use aa lap top. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:41 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!crc-news.doc.ca!usenet From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 14 Feb 1996 18:20:00 GMT Organization: Industry Canada Lines: 85 Message-ID: <4ft94g$l4j@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4fsqki$djs@crc-news.doc.ca> <4ft12n$qjp@abyss.West.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: cummings.jim.dgrr000.ic.gc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: myers@West.Sun.COM Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24948 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14157 From: Dana H. Myers To: jcumming Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: Wednesday, February 14, 1996 7:51AM > >> >* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks >> >like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the > >>higher the impedance, the better. This should just connect directly > >>to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable > >>for 9600 baud. > > > > >Sorry Dana, but this is in error. There is a fixed-level audio output >> pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and >> 751 rigs are my experience). The level is high enough to operate HF > >digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to > >drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it >> much of a concern for me. However, the audio output derived at ICOM >> mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control. I can confirm this >> because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former >> 735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile). If however > >it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to > >this radio. >What makes you think my description is in error, other than some other >Icom radios are different? The mic jack audio out is derived from the >top of the volume control, directly from the IF demodulator, as indicated >by the schematic and block diagram. The block diagram indicates signal >flow _to_ the volume control and mic jack (via a buffer amplifier), then >it indicates signal flow _from_ the volume control to the speaker >amplifier. My apologies - I did not wish to discredit your schematic interpretation abilities whatsoever. It struck me odd, however, that this rig would seemingl y have a different configuration from the rest of the Icom family of radios, as I noted in my last comment of my original posting. >The mic connector on the IC-2000 is an RJ (twisted pair/telco style) >connector, I doubt that headset that plugs into the IC-735 would plug >in ;-). From your description, sounds like Icom used the RJ-45 connector, which is used by the telephone industry, so I have been told, as a "data jack". This is the type of jack that is also used on the 706. But you are right, here I was with the Icom boom-headset with the radial 8 pin plug and in accordance with that Law of Physics that says you can't put a square peg in a round hole, it didn't fit. As well, the stock 706 does not come with a DTMF pad on the mike (when told by an Icom America rep that DTMF mikes were over $100 a pop and the inclusion of one would have thrown the target price for these radios out of whack, I didn't have the presence of mind to remind this individual is that what he was quoting was the retail price, not the actual value of manufacturing - which is probably in the order of 10 bucks - but I digress). So I had a couple of 8 pin radial jacks, and rooted around in the shack for a mini-DPDT switch and scrounged a curly cable with an RJ-45 plug on it, went to Radio Shack and bought a little perf board and one of their blue experiementer boxes. After careful wiring, and a lot of swearing and making sure I did not poke my eye out with the soldering iron and Voila! I now have a little adapter box, in which I can plug my boom headset and an Icom mike with DTMF pad and it is switchable. So far, it seems that the boom mike has better audio, according to the tests I have been doing so far. But when I want to make an autopatch, I just flip the switch and use the DTMF pad on the other hand mike. So it is possible to use headset that was used on my 735, but a little adapter is necessary. (I understand that Icom has an adapter ready made, but I read somewhere it is $US45, which would put it at the $CAN65 range. It wasn't worth it.) 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ Yes, I faced the same problem with my 706, coupled with the fact that the 706 stock mike does not have a touch tone pad thanks for the note!! Dana From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:42 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 14 Feb 1996 04:09:03 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4frn8v$brt@news.halcyon.com> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Feb10.012547.14732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4fim3l$kmv@abyss.West.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm12-ip28.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24955 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14160 You are not correct about the freq up / down. When the pin is hard grounded the radio will scan up, when it is pulled to ground through a 470 ohm resistor the radio will scan down. FEED NO voltage into this pin it simply does not work that way. The 8 volts D.C. pin can source only about 8 milliamps, pulling more may damage your radio. The mic pin is a lower current and is not specified by ICOM, here it is only to bias on the mic. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:43 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 14 Feb 1996 05:45:32 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4frsts$jbd@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <1996Feb10.012547.14732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4fim3l$kmv@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4frn8v$brt@news.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24981 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14181 In article <4frn8v$brt@news.halcyon.com>, Gary P. Fiber wrote: >You are not correct about the freq up / down. When the pin is hard >grounded the radio will scan up, when it is pulled to ground through a >470 ohm resistor the radio will scan down. FEED NO voltage into this pin >it simply does not work that way. The 8 volts D.C. pin can source only >about 8 milliamps, pulling more may damage your radio. The mic pin is a >lower current and is not specified by ICOM, here it is only to bias on the >mic. Gary Coffman has already corrected me on this. However, note that the +8V source doesn't just run the mic pre-amp; it really does run a +5V regulator and DTMF encoder chip in the microphone. In the IC-2000, that +8V line comes from a 78M08 regulator, and has a total of 110 ohms of series resistance on the the way to the microphone. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:45 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!crc-news.doc.ca!usenet From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 14 Feb 1996 14:12:34 GMT Organization: Industry Canada Lines: 55 Message-ID: <4fsqki$djs@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: cummings.jim.dgrr000.ic.gc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: myers@West.Sun.COM Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24999 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14197 myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s. I've crossposted >to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a >1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000. > >Please send me updates or corrections... > OK, I got another here for you (it seems that the UP/DOWN issue is now cleared up.... so no point in being repetative) >------------------------------------------------------------- > >The IC-2000(H) microphone connector FAQ >Version 0.1 2/9/96 >Maintained by Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com > > (snip, snip) >3 Audio output from radio (further snipping) >Notes: > (One more time!!!!) >* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks >like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the >higher the impedance, the better. This should just connect directly >to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable >for 9600 baud. > Sorry Dana, but this is in error. There is a fixed-level audio output pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and 751 rigs are my experience). The level is high enough to operate HF digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it much of a concern for me. However, the audio output derived at ICOM mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control. I can confirm this because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former 735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile). If however it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to this radio. (Finis!) 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:46 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IC-2000 microphone connector FAQ (here it is!) Date: 14 Feb 1996 16:02:31 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 72 Message-ID: <4ft12n$qjp@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4fg5f0$3r3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4fsqki$djs@crc-news.doc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:25004 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14205 In article <4fsqki$djs@crc-news.doc.ca>, Jim Cummings wrote: > myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: > >Here's a little contribution to those with IC-2000s. I've crossposted > >to rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc for those wishing to connect a > >1200 baud TNC to the IC-2000. > > > >Please send me updates or corrections... > > > > OK, I got another here for you (it seems that the UP/DOWN issue is now > cleared up.... so no point in being repetative) > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >The IC-2000(H) microphone connector FAQ > >Version 0.1 2/9/96 > >Maintained by Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com > > > > > (snip, snip) > >3 Audio output from radio > > (further snipping) > > >Notes: > > > > (One more time!!!!) > > > >* The audio output is a fixed level, de-emphasized signal, it looks > >like it will drive loads down to 600 ohms, though I'd suggest the > >higher the impedance, the better. This should just connect directly > >to the input of most 1200 baud TNCs for packet; it is not usable > >for 9600 baud. > > > > Sorry Dana, but this is in error. There is a fixed-level audio output > pin in the ACCESSORY plug in the rear of many Icom radios (735, 740, and > 751 rigs are my experience). The level is high enough to operate HF > digital operations with PK232s and KAMs (although it is not enough to > drive the PK232 from my 751 when the '232 is in Morse code - not that it > much of a concern for me. However, the audio output derived at ICOM > mike jacks is adjustable with the volume control. I can confirm this > because I have the Icom Boom/Headset mike and it works with my former > 735, and currently owned 751, 706 and 2310 (UHF/VHF mobile). If however > it is the case for the IC-2000, it would seem that this is peculiar to > this radio. What makes you think my description is in error, other than some other Icom radios are different? The mic jack audio out is derived from the top of the volume control, directly from the IF demodulator, as indicated by the schematic and block diagram. The block diagram indicates signal flow _to_ the volume control and mic jack (via a buffer amplifier), then it indicates signal flow _from_ the volume control to the speaker amplifier. I believe my description is correct. [ The mic connector on the IC-2000 is an RJ (twisted pair/telco style) connector, I doubt that headset that plugs into the IC-735 would plug in ;-). ] thanks for the note!! Dana -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!xpat.postech.ac.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!mdisea!pilchuck!news From: tomz@premier1.net (Tom Zoch) Subject: Information on equipment sought by new Tech X-Nntp-Posting-Host: inet-gw Message-ID: Sender: news@data-io.com (Usenet news) Reply-To: zoch@data-io.com Organization: Sosiity fer spelen exalanse X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 02:20:34 GMT Lines: 50 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19106 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14183 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24986 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13362 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98126 rec.radio.amateur.policy:33110 rec.radio.amateur.space:6337 Hi, I am going to be taking my Tech tests on Saturday (2/17) and am now starting to look in to what type of radios to get. I plan to put a 2M Mobile in my truck and get a more substantial base for home. For home I'm looking into Base Multiband / Multimode Transceivers and trying to decide what will be my best bet. I was thinking of one that would cover at least 2M and perhaps 70cm. I am interested in working into Satellite and EME as well as FM and perhaps some local CW, 12V operation would be a plus but not a major requirement. I do plan on upgrading to at least General with in the next year and expanding also into some HF as well. So I would want to take that into consideration as well. possibly using Transverters get to the higher freqs for satellite and EME and going with a more basic UHF/VHF base unit. For the mobile unit I was thinking of a rather simple 2M unit for repeater and simplex FM. I live in a rather remote area in the western foothills of the Cascades so I think one of the higher output power units would be in order. I was considering picking up one of the new Radio Shack units. As far as I can tell it has most everything I am looking for at a reasonable price. From the cross talk I have seen on the net and the write up in CQ (VHF) it seems to be a good choice. I would like to take advantage of the wealth of experience of those out here on the net and get some input from you as to what you think. Suggestions on equipment to get or avoid as well as things to look for or useless features to not even consider. For me price, value and reliability are important, I have a modest but hopefully adequate amount set aside for starting up and want to use it wisely. The Base unit I'll be looking for used at up coming Ham fests so any information about current or older equipment would be helpful. I was thinking of picking up the Mobil new ( if it is in or around the same price range as the Radio Shack unit ) but am vary open to suggestions. I would also welcome comment on other accessory gear that you feel would be useful as well as thoughts on band selection (pros and cons of the diffrent amature bands ) or what ever info. you would like to pass on to a newbie like myself. I know there are lots of books and other sources around and would not mind pointers to the better source like that, but I am primarily looking for personal insights and experience. Thanks TZ Reply here or by e-mail to tomz@premier1.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!nntp.coast.net!news.net99.net!premier1.premier1.net!news From: tomz@premier1.net (Tom) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.swap,alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space Subject: Information sought by new Tech Date: 16 Feb 1996 18:13:31 GMT Organization: none of the above Lines: 48 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4g2hgb$f06@premier1.premier1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dynamic-39.premier1.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19125 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:25002 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13372 rec.radio.swap:57676 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14200 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98147 rec.radio.amateur.policy:33120 rec.radio.amateur.space:6339 Hi, I am going to be taking my Tech tests on Saturday (2/17) and am now starting to look in to what type of radios to get. I plan to put a 2M Mobile in my truck and get a more substantial base for home. For home I'm looking into Base Multiband / Multimode Transceivers and trying to decide what will be my best bet. I was thinking of one that would cover at least 2M and perhaps 70cm. I am interested in working into Satellite and EME as well as FM and perhaps some local CW, 12V operation would be a plus but not a major requirement. I do plan on upgrading to at least General with in the next year and expanding also into some HF as well. So I would want to take that into consideration as well. possibly using Transverters get to the higher freqs for satellite and EME and going with a more basic UHF/VHF base unit. For the mobile unit I was thinking of a rather simple 2M unit for repeater and simplex FM. I live in a rather remote area in the western foothills of the Cascades so I think one of the higher output power units would be in order. I was considering picking up one of the new Radio Shack units. As far as I can tell it has most everything I am looking for at a reasonable price. >From the cross talk I have seen on the net and the write up in CQ (VHF) it seems to be a good choice. I would like to take advantage of the wealth of experience of those out here on the net and get some input from you as to what you think. Suggestions on equipment to get or avoid as well as things to look for or useless features to not even consider. For me price, value and reliability are important, I have a modest but hopefully adequate amount set aside for starting up and want to use it wisely. The Base unit I'll be looking for used at up coming Ham fests so any information about current or older equipment would be helpful. I was thinking of picking up the Mobil new ( if it is in or around the same price range as the Radio Shack unit ) but am vary open to suggestions. I would also welcome comment on other accessory gear that you feel would be useful as well ( for example band selection for Satellite and EME ), or what ever info you would like to pass on to a newbie like myself. I know there are lots of books and other sources around and would not mind pointers to the better source like that, but I am primarily looking for personal insights and experience . Reply here or by e-mail to tomz@premier1.net Thanks TZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:50 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:00:12 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4fs19s$nui@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4ehqbt$o03@olympus.net> Reply-To: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver if others would. Cordially: Rick Crider KD4FXA V. Pres. / UCARS (Union County Amateur Radio Society) Monroe NC From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:51 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsxfer2.itd.umich.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!li.net!tomcar From: tomcar@newshost.li.net (Tom Carrubba) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 15 Feb 1996 19:21:28 GMT Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4g013o$jdo@linet06.li.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: linet01.li.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The Town of Babylon ARES/RACES group would support an ARES/RACES newsgroup.. 73 Tom Carrubba KA2DFO TOB ARES AEC/DRO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:52 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 15 Feb 1996 14:51:41 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4g02sd$2vv@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4fs19s$nui@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Rick writes: "In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver if others would. " I agree -- As a member of our City of San Jose Communications Division, and a member of our City RACES program, having a newsgroup on ARES/RACES would be a really good idea!! Trish WA6UBE@aol.com "The Vertical Skywave Girl" ... Mobile repair shop supervisor - City of San Jose/ GSA-Communications voice-mail: 1-408-277-4082 PGP Public key available on request From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:53 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!mozz.unh.edu!usenet From: Jerry Needell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 23:38:49 -0500 Organization: University of New Hampshire - Durham, NH Lines: 22 Message-ID: <312015D9.1F773BA7@unh.edu> References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gjn-home.sr.unh.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) Jeff De Long wrote: > > I just received a negative response on my bbs about forwarding mail via the > internet. Thought I would post on this news group and see what other hams > thought about internet forwarding. I am for it. I do not have a passionate feeling about this, but I lean in the direction that "it ain't radio" so it has no role in the amateur radio network. I am afraid that the ease of mail forwarding via the Internet will result in a complete dependecy on it rather than RF links. I am also concerned about the huge volume of potential traffic that Internet Gateways can admit to the radio network. The Internet is a big pipe and a few subscriptions to listservers can create a large amout of data flowing into our very small pipes. Its nice to be able to excange a few messages with the other side, but I think the potential problem outweigh the benifit. Just my thoughts - since you asked ;-) -- Jerry Needell - jerry.needell@unh.edu (most reliable e-mail address) Amateur Radio - N1SJQ Packet Radio - n1sjq@n1sjq.ampr.org or N1SJQ@KA1OU.FN43FE.N.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:54 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> <4fl6b1$c24@tuegate.tue.nl> <4flvio$f47@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4fomnv$pvm@usenet.pa.dec.com> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:11:08 GMT Lines: 26 In <4fomnv$pvm@usenet.pa.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) writes: >The beauty of internet forwarding is that anybody can do it. The >current forwarding paths are controlled by some people that like to >excercise their "given right"to kill mail.. >If they were as "pure"as they would like us to believe, there would be >absolutely NO PROBLEMS !!! Problems in mail forwarding and killing of messages should not be solved by cutting around it, but by reviewing and discussing the reasons for it. Usually you will find that the content of the messages is not at all relating to amateur radio, and is illegal to transfer in the country where your intermediate system resides. There is no such thing as a "right to send whatever you like via the amateur BBS system". This should be understood by the users of the system. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:55 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> <4fl6b1$c24@tuegate.tue.nl> <311F0314.4880@baan.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:15:29 GMT Lines: 52 In <311F0314.4880@baan.nl> Feico de Boer writes: >joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu wrote: >> The reason: using internet for message transfer has nothing to do with >> amateur radio. Or should we rename out hobby to amateur communicators ? >Internet in addition to the current situation can be very usefull >since not every operator has a licence for HF. Therefore the >Internet can be his link over the horizon. There is no need for every operator to have a link over the horizon. Besides, every operator with a VHF/UHF license can operate on packet satellites, and thus transfer messages all over the world. >> The next step : let the radio amateurs use internet to connect to the local >> (packet?) bbs. >Personally I feel this as a very onlogical step since my opionion >is that most amateurs will use their set to connect to the internet >over packet radio. The prevent the casual netsurfer from initiating >a amateur radio transmitter some fancy firewalls can be used. Obviously you don't understand what was meant by the claim. The reason why the next step is connecting to the BBS via Internet, is the same as why people want to use Internet for forwarding: they believe that the radio path is too slow/too crowded to be used for transferring their messages, and thus they cut around it by using wire networks. This bodes the end for "radio" as in "amateur radio". >> The last step (from the government): sell the amateur bands to the highest >> bidder. >The is no commercial value in connecting to the Internet since the >number of radio amateurs is low compared to all the modem owners. >Ofcourse provides may loose some money since an amateur may decide >to use radio instead of modem, but I also think that a lot of ham's >will not even consider the Internet unless they can connect to it >over packet radio. Again, you have misunderstood. The point is: as soon as no radio amateur uses radio anymore, because the Internet is so much better, we don't need the spectrum allocation and will lose the bands. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:57 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!netaxs.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!sun4nl!rnzll3!sys3.pe1chl!rob From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Organization: PE1CHL Message-ID: References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> <4fl6b1$c24@tuegate.tue.nl> <4flvio$f47@usenet.pa.dec.com> Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 11:52:47 GMT Lines: 28 In <4flvio$f47@usenet.pa.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) writes: >As technology moves forward, so should Amateur Radio. It is VERY >unfortunate that the HF intercontinental links cannot support the >megabytes of data generated every day by HAMS. Who told you that HF Intercontinental links are the only solution to your problem? When there is a problem, work together to solve it. Using radio. That is what the amateur radio hobby is about. Look at satellite systems. There already exists a working mail forwarding network via satellite, and the upcoming Phase-3D satellite could extend this to real-time links (e.g. for conference server connections). Internet is nice to have, but it is *not* the solution to packet BBS forwarding problems within the amateur radio hobby. Just as making a telephone call is *not* the solution to solving the difficulty of working a DX country. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:38:58 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!nntp1.wellsfargo.com!news1.digital.com!pa.dec.com!usenet From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 00:22:35 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Palo Alto, CA, USA Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fr684$4fu@usenet.pa.dec.com> References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mcs002.pc.sno.dec.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 I have started to forward approx 1mb of @ww mail into Australia per day. We have not received this type of mail for some months due to the poor hf conditions. When I look at the contents of the mail, I do ask what value does all of this @ww mail provide. Some of the messages are quite stupid, in my opinion, but they have a right to be there as an Amateur did post it out. I think some of these chaps need a little educating and not post 70cm skeds to @ww !!!!! I think it is for the USERS to decide if they want the mail and not myself as a SYSOP. The mail is NOT slanderous and does not contain obsceneties. If I have that approach, there is NO way in this lifetime that I could get 1MB per day via in intercontinental hf link. One thing that it has done is to show the Sydney SYSOPS that we really can't cope with a 1200 baud backbone feeding 10 bbs's. I'm ALL for internet forwarding as it links Australia to the rest of the world. It provides reliable digital communications and you actually learn something by doing it !!! Cheers..Peter e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer does not have the right to use my opinions.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:00 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Internet via high frequency packet radio in Africa? Message-ID: <1996Feb14.174405.8191@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> <1996Feb9.072454.10229@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <3120a1da.11961641@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:44:05 GMT Lines: 42 In article <3120a1da.11961641@canberra.dialix.oz.au> vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz .au writes: >On Fri, 9 Feb 1996 07:24:54 GMT, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) >wrote: >>In article <4fb1ln$s1@noc.tor.hookup.net> timmaude@hookup.net (Tim Maude) wr ites: >>>I am considering a job in Africa. Internet service provider not >>>available because the phones don't work. Can you help with some >>>answers to these questions? >>>1. Can high frequency packet connect me to internet for mail (first >>>priority) or WWW. ? >> >>Email, sort of. WWW, forget it. HF packet is limited to 300 baud. > [snip] >Or, alternatively, you CAN, quite reliably, use 1200 baud Phase Shift >Keying (PSK) TNC's on H.F. Radio. Many are operating on the amateur >radio frequencies from about 14.105 to about 14.109 or thereabouts. >They sound like a chainsaw when you hear 'em. Thanks for the reminder that the 300 baud limitation is a USA-centric artifact of our antiquated rules. Higher speeds may indeed be available to amateurs in other countries. However, HF packet is bad enough at 300 baud. At 1200 baud, selective fading will trash the symbols on all but the best and most stable paths. Baud over about 50 are difficult to use reliably on a fading channel without heavy FEC. To achieve better throughput, symbol overloading schemes like Clover are a better choice (basic baud 31.25 with symbol overloading to 375 bps, *and* strong FEC). Unfortunately, encapsulating TCP/IP frames in Clover is not an off-the-shelf solution. I expect you'd want to run a PPP link over Clover (Clover appears from the outside to be quasi-duplex), but you'll need to do the connection setup manually, and talk directly to the P-38 API via your own driver code. That's not difficult, in fact almost trivial if you're running Linux. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!intac!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ub!csn!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news5.ner.bbnplanet.net!news.ner.bbnplanet.net!news3.near.net!ray.com!news.ray.com!news.res.ray.com!news From: mark_b_foster@ccmail.ed.ray.com (Mark Foster) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: JNOS lite ? Date: 13 Feb 1996 18:17:17 GMT Organization: EDL Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mpc598.ed.ray.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Warning: The author was not authenticated. X-Disclaimer: This is the author's opinion and not that of Raytheon Company. X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.2 Hi, I have an XT (8088) with only 512K of memory. I have tried JNOS 1.09 and 1.10 (many different letters 1.10D -1.10K) and have not found a build that will fit/run in the limited amount of memory. My requirments are simple as I just use the COM1 port to a KAM3. The XT works great in the shack with no EMI. My 486 has too much EMI (eletrical noise) to be near my shack (and the family does not want the 486 tied up with packet stuff). Can anyone recommend a "lite" configuration that I can use ? -mark KA1OJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:02 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.inc.net!imci3!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Gary P. Fiber" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS lite ? Date: 14 Feb 1996 04:15:12 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4frnkg$brt@news.halcyon.com> References: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm12-ip28.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version. In the JNOS make file one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for. The 8088 is one choice. Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT. I have seen 1.08 run on an XT. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:03 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS lite ? Date: 14 Feb 1996 15:02:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 31 Message-ID: <4fstif$db8@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ala-ca14-26.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Feb 14 7:02:39 AM PST 1996 In <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> mark_b_foster@ccmail.ed.ray.com (Mark Foster) writes: > >Hi, >I have an XT (8088) with only 512K of memory. I have tried JNOS 1.09 >and 1.10 (many different letters 1.10D -1.10K) and have not found a build >that will fit/run in the limited amount of memory. My requirments are >simple as I just use the COM1 port to a KAM3. > >The XT works great in the shack with no EMI. My 486 has too much EMI >(eletrical noise) to be near my shack (and the family does not want the >486 tied up with packet stuff). > > > Can anyone recommend a "lite" configuration that I can use ? > >-mark KA1OJ I recommend you try WNOS, available at: FTP.UCSD.EDU/HAMRADIO/PACKET/TCPIP/WNOS I use it here on a 286 with one floppy and it runs great. It runs in a lot less memory than JNOS. Your other choice is to buy the Borland C compiler and recompile JNOS with the minimum stuff you require. BTW. Wnos will compile with TC++3.0 (only $89.00) Good luck de Jean-Pierre kc6jet@kc6jet.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:04 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sesqui.net!news.ti.com!spock.asic.sc.ti.com!usenet From: rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com (Ralph Phelps) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: 13 Feb 1996 23:17:52 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments ASIC group, Dallas TX, USA Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> Reply-To: rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com NNTP-Posting-Host: vw.asic.sc.ti.com Keywords: KAM+ or PK-232 I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. 73, Ralph WA9JST From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!bcstec!kf7qz From: kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ricky Scott) Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Message-ID: Organization: The Boeing Company X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 14:52:25 GMT Lines: 23 Ralph Phelps (rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com) wrote: : I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. : Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not : considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, : dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. Thats a tough one Ralph, I have tried Both and they both have some good features. I guess it depends on what you wish to do with it. I like the variable Mark/Space settings of the KAM and I feel it was a little more sensitive than the 232 (I tried both). I have had my KAM and Upgraded it periodically for almost 10years now and its never ever been to KANTRONICS for a repair. I just keeps going and going and going.... I like the KAM BEST I guess. -- Ricky J. Scott | The comments expressed here in do not Ship Side Support | reflect the views of my company or my 767 Electrical Manuf. Eng. | supervisor. In fact they wish I would kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | not express my opinions. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:06 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.structured.net!nntp.teleport.com!ip-pdx06-56.teleport.com!user From: moana@teleport.com (Charles Vollum) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:20:09 -0700 Organization: Moana Software Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx06-56.teleport.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.5 In article <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com>, rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com wrote: > I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. > Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not > considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, > dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. I own both, and both are good units. On my boat, I prefer the Kam+ due to small size and better Mac software. All of my internet email from the South Pacific was handled via the Kam over AMTOR and PACTOR. I also like playing with GTOR, which really smokes. If I could have just one unit, I think it would be the Kam Plus. YMMV! Charles n7bpt From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:06 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!grumpy.insinc.net!KEY.globalx.net!jolt.pagesat.net!pagesat.net!sloth.swcp.com!news.ironhorse.com!fury.berkshire.net!op.net!news.tcst.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!pull-feed.internetmci.com!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!psgrain!iafrica.com!usenet From: Marinus Willemstijn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire! Date: 13 Feb 1996 06:38:10 GMT Organization: Telkom SA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4fpbki$o48@newnews.iafrica.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qsom-willemma.telkom.co.za Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) Thanks for reading... Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode where it wont accept any commands from Winpack. I then have to use a hard reset to reset the TNC and then change all parameters again, etc, etc. Its becoming quite a drag because I now have to leave it on 24hrs a day. Is the internal battery maybe at fault - but why doesn't it reset to defaults when switched on again? Please help. Marinus ZS6MAW willemma@telkom19.telkom.co.za From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:07 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!sparky.wrlc.org!netnews.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!news.csuohio.edu!sww From: sww@csuohio.edu (Steve Wolf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire! Date: 16 Feb 1996 11:40:57 GMT Organization: Cleveland State University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4g1qg9$5a7@csu-b.csuohio.edu> References: <1996Feb15.134551.8938@walter.cray.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coffman.cba.csuohio.edu X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5 : Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a : KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when : I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode : where it wont accept any commands from Winpack. Hi ... Read about KISS in the manuals. Sounds like it's in KISS. -- 73, Steve Internet : no8m@hamnet.org Amateur Radio : no8m@no8m.#neoh.oh.usa.na MSYS Mail List: msys-request@hamnet.org ('info' for title) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:08 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!thunder.mgl.ca!granite.sentex.net!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!news-2.csn.net!usenet From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: KaWin 6.30 Date: 10 Feb 1996 03:45:30 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4fh4cq$mnh@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.25.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14128 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98050 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24915 KaWin version 6.30 is ready! This new version of KaWin is faster, cleaner and loaded with new features. Registered users may upgrade at no cost. Others are invited to test this new version by downloading it from the KaWin Home Page or FTP Site. 73, Igottago... Stan .. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA email: stan@mutadv.com KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:09 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!axe.netdoor.com!news From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KPC-9612 won't send signal Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 05:56:44 -0500 Organization: Internet Doorway, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3121BFEC.1621@dibbs.net> References: <4flrno$93e@news.midusa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp02.dibbs.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Jeff Hilton wrote: > > My KPC-9612 won't send a signal on port 1 (port 2 isn't in use). It just > sends a carrier signal, no packet info. It just started doing this > recently. > > Is my radio hooked up right? Is it the TNC? > > Has anybody else out there had this problem. > > Thanks > > Jeff Hilton, notrf@midusa.net--- Is this a new unit? Maybe the transmit audio level is too low to deviate your radio. There is a jumper clip and potentiometer to set the level that might need adjustment. Have you checked here: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/index.html for the correct interconnection for your radio? No, I haven't had this problem with mine. -- Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL genek@maf.mobile.al.us genek@dibbs.net wa4wbi@maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:11 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1!ind-014-238-36.iquest.net!user From: gingrich@iquest.net (David C. Gingrich) Subject: Re: Landline BBS and Packet BBS Software X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ind-014-238-36.iquest.net Message-ID: Sender: news@iquest.net (News Admin) Organization: You've got to be kidding References: Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:35:52 GMT Lines: 32 In article , ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) wrote: > BACKGROUND - I am the SYSOP for the local Red Cross Emergency Services > Committee. I am also their Communications and Transportation co-odinator. > This is all volunteer as most of you know. > > PROBLEM - I have a large area to cover. There is a mix of amateur and > non-amateurs. I would like to know if there is a sofware package that > will allow the system to send and receive landline BBS and packet BBS > traffic. I am currently using the Phoenix BBS program from Genesys on a > Zenith 286 with 2MB of ram and a 200MB harddrive. There are plently of > slots left. > This question was posed to me by one of our local Red Cross folks... Instead of using a BBS, have you considered setting up an Email mailing list instead? Of all your people that would call the BBS, how many already have an Email address on some service somewhere? I'll bet your friendly neighborhood ISP would set it up for free and then you have NO box to maintain and no users to train (or contend for the one or two modems you might have). If there is an Internet connected packet gateway (xNOS, etc) in the area, the hams could pick up mail there via packet. Even if you had to manage the list manually using an alias or .forward file, it seems a whole lot easier than taking care of a box. FWIW === Dave Gingrich, K9DC Fishers, Indiana gingrich@iquest.net k9dc@indygate.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!chaos.aoc.nrao.edu!newshost.nmt.edu!rutgers!news.columbia.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.u.washington.edu!uw-beaver!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ub!csn!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.coast.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ag368 From: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) Subject: Landline BBS and Packet BBS Software Message-ID: Sender: ag368@freenet3.carleton.ca (Mark Boyer) Reply-To: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Mon, 12 Feb 1996 16:18:02 GMT Lines: 25 BACKGROUND - I am the SYSOP for the local Red Cross Emergency Services Committee. I am also their Communications and Transportation co-odinator. This is all volunteer as most of you know. PROBLEM - I have a large area to cover. There is a mix of amateur and non-amateurs. I would like to know if there is a sofware package that will allow the system to send and receive landline BBS and packet BBS traffic. I am currently using the Phoenix BBS program from Genesys on a Zenith 286 with 2MB of ram and a 200MB harddrive. There are plently of slots left. If I have to change the software what is the best brand to use for the configuration that I want to use? Also I haven't purchased a TNC or a dedicated radio yet. I hope there is someone out there who has set something like this up and can help. 73 -- Mark Boyer VE3MJB ag368@freenet.carleton.ca HELP, HELP we're twapped in a Dash 8 going wound and wound. A day in the life at uAmps R us. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:13 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!fish.pond.com!kd3bj!jolt.pagesat.net!netserv.com!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!madison.tdsnet.com!news From: ns4w Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Landline BBS and TNC Door Date: 12 Feb 1996 00:34:43 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4fm1v3$r26@madison.tdsnet.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: conc3-a03.conc.tdsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: dasosnin@emi.net I do *exactly* what you are looking for. I remote controll my PacketCluster node by using Norton PC Anywhere and dialin modem. I can control any computer function including tnc operations. I have several remote sysops who use this function and it works *very* well. Bert - NS4W ns4w@tdsnet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:14 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: mluther@tamu.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Landline BBS and TNC Door Date: 14 Feb 1996 05:47:42 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4frt1u$3np@news.tamu.edu> References: Reply-To: mluther@tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.194.44.219 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In , dasosnin@emi.net (David Sosnin) writes: >Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that >users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. There are >Hams in the area that would probably like to do this so they can see >if they want to spend the money for packet equipment. It will give >them a taste of what they could be enjoying. It needs to me a DOS >based program. > >Thanks for any help. > >David Sosnin >N4TTN >dasosnin@emi.net > > I use Marshall's DOORWAY.COM program with my OPUS 1.73 BBS program to do the job and it works just fine. The radio item is a menu selection on the BBS main menu available for qualified users. The door goes to an AEA Pakratt program that runs my AEA PK900 or other PCB88 card on the buss. The whole affair runs in an OS/2 DOS VDM in WARP CONNECT 3.0 with Ray Gwinn's SIO.153 and a time slicing utility to smooth out the operation which can proceed at the same time that my entire station control program is running in another OS/2 session. I think you can get the lateest DOORWAY.COM, a shareware product, from many BBS sites as DRWAY22.ZIP to pull of the stunt. There is another more sophisticated apprach at this that is a specific utility to do this from your BBS which has the added attraction of changing the user of the TNC to the call sign of the person on the BBS. That is done by spiking the initialization of the TNC with a change in MYCALL for getting rid of the problem of having good old YOU, the sysop in trouble for what gets into the RF arena. Since all my users are qualified and not much use is made of the BBS for this purpose, I didn't try this approach nor remember what the program is called, but it is out there on many of the ham radio specific BBS sites. Mike W5WQN as a guest at leviatham.tamu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:15 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!qni.com!gwatts From: Gary Watts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Landline BBS and TNC Door Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 09:03:49 -0600 Organization: Suba Communications Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <11b_9602150133@woodybbs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qni.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <11b_9602150133@woodybbs.com> The program is on the WEB from the Author Please see his page and get your software from him. Don't dial direct take the WEB !!!! :-> His page is located at http://www.sound.net/~w4kgu Good Luck Gary Watts de N0OXV Kansas City Mo 81 GL1100I On 14 Feb 1996, Clint Bradford wrote: > > > > >>Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that > >>users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. > > ARPD124.ZIP is available on ATTENTION to Details BBS 909-681-6221. Best > one available! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:16 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: heis1633@mailszrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (Wolfgang Heise) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: latest wa8ded firmware Date: 13 Feb 96 11:35:48 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 36 Message-ID: <199602141244.MAA03077@mailszrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hello Daniel, hello Thomas, may at look at http://deister.aball.de/%7Epg/nordlink/ would help you to download the latest version - I think 2.7b it is. 73 de Wolfgang (DL7VWH) **************************************************************************** Date: 13 Feb 1996 17:04:16 GMT From: Thomas M Allen Subject: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for >the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should >have ie. NORD>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere >although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version. WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The "latest" is at least three years old, however. -------------------------------------- Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA ****************************************************************************+ Wolfgang Heise - VOICE: ##49-30-31425672 - FAX: ..-31426797 Technische Universitaet Berlin :-% Institut fuer Bergbauwissenschaften, Sekr. BH 3 :/i Str. des 17. Juni 135, 10623 Berlin, Germany ||*( possible on hamradio/packetradio too by DL7VWH@db0gr.bln.deu.eu Maybe you would like to have a look at our Web Server? just type http://mindepos.bg.tu-berlin.de/eurolat From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:18 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!axe.netdoor.com!news From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Maritime TCP/IP or AX.25? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 06:19:35 -0500 Organization: Internet Doorway, Inc. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <31246847.6653@dibbs.net> References: <4fqetl$ie1@blackice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp25.dibbs.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Michael Schwarz wrote: > > Hello, I'm new to the group so please forgive me if I'm posting > "off base." I'm N0ZES but I'm asking this question on behalf of a > friend who's going off on an "around the world" sailing trip. They'll > have GPS and maritime radio and all those goodies, but they're asking > me about having Internet access on the trip. Finally, I said the only solut ion that seemed > viable to me was some sort of satellite based communications. I think they have only two options: 1. If they have license and use HF packet or some digital ham mode to send E-m ail to internet via a packet/internet gateway, which will only give them mail deli very. 2. If the boat has Inmarsat A or B satellite communications they could use it to dial in by regular modem up to about 9600 baud to their internet provider. Th is costs $8 to $10 per minute. -- Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL genek@maf.mobile.al.us genek@dibbs.net wa4wbi@maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:18 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!news.bc.net!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Jay Craswell <73016.27@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Morse code to text display wanted Date: 9 Feb 1996 00:44:49 GMT Organization: Dover Research Corp. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4fe5e1$ecl$2@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13321 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24913 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14127 Hamcom uses a simple 741 interface to an unused comm port and also decodes CW, RTTY, SSTV and AMTOR. I've got some boards that will do this that I will let go for $10 (You build em!) E-Mail me if you are interested. -- 73, Jay WB0VNE - AAV5TH From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:20 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.gdbnet.ad.jp!news.hebel.net!nntp.inet.fi!news.tele.fi!uunet!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!duke.usask.ca!buydens From: buydens@duke.usask.ca (Brian Buydens) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Morse code to text display wanted Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Date: 12 Feb 1996 15:58:22 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4fno2u$t1h@tribune.usask.ca> References: <4du55d$irl@sue.cc.uregina.ca> <4e11t1$1om@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: duke.usask.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13331 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24937 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14143 I believe the SuperMorse program also has provisions for translating cw to tex t. Brian. Ference Kish (fkish@attila.mtx.net.net) wrote: : > > : > >Hi. My dad is a Ham operator, and asked me if there were some : > inexpensive : > >way to have incoming Morse code automatically translated and displayed : > on : > >a CRT. Since I know nothing about Ham radio, I thought I'd post here. : There is a program called MORSEFFT which you should be able to find on the n et : (use ARCHIE to find the site storing it ) : It needs a sound blaster card as an input device. It comes with C source cod e, : too -- Brian Buydens There was a young poet named Dan, Department of Computing Services Whose poetry never would scan. University of Saskatchewan When told this was so, email: Brian.Buydens@usask.ca He said, "Yes, I know. VE5RDV From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:20 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Multipurpose TNC / Decoder? Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:03:07 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 13 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4fs1fb$o4v@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Is there such an animal as a multimode/multipurpose TNC / Decoder....? I'm new at packet.....(haven't even started yet)......Would like a multipurpose radio and /or scanner to computer interface to use for packet as well as decoding various other data transmissions hovering in the air around me such as paging, both digital and alphanumeric, wefax, and as much more as possible. I'm just terribly confused with all the terms and protocols. Have posted to various groups to no avail. Any help aprreciated. Thanks. Cordially: Rick Crider KD4FXA Monroe NC From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:22 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!interactive.net!winternet.com!fury.berkshire.net!news.ironhorse.com!sloth.swcp.com!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.campus.mci.net!news.uky.edu!news From: Tfugate@pop.uky.edu (Terry Fugate) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MY NEW EXPERIENCE..... PLS READ Date: 12 Feb 1996 13:10:54 GMT Organization: IT Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4fne8u$quc@service2.uky.edu> References: <4fcpdh$cda@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.120.82 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6 In article <4fcpdh$cda@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ashtabula2@aol.com (Ashtabula2) says: > >Hello everyone, > > I am very new to this SW and SAT stufff, well last night I decided to >give it a shot... I dloaded a piece of software to track satellites, and >found a FAQ in requards to the subject. I ran the software and setup on a >paticular SAT. RS-12/13, I couldnt believe it, it reached the bahamas and >I started to hear a faint beacon, as it went north it got stronger. WHAT >A RUSH, I loved it, man this stuff is fun.... If anyone has any SAT info >in reguards to Weather sat PICS, I would love to here from ya, as I am a >weather nut........ THANX IN ADVANCE!!! > >73's >JEFF Go out to the Oakland ftp mirror and snag a copy of JVFAX 7.0.(7.1 is out on the net, but I do not know if it includes all the diagrams that are with 7.0) There is a real simple uA741 opamp that feeds(and is powered by) the asynch port. There is an "converter" that goes between you vhf receiver and the opamp input. The converter is a vco that converts the "am" wx sat pix into a "fm" hf type fax. The whole decoder setup shouldn't cost more than $10(us) or so. The exar chip is the common one used in most of the older packet only tncs.(I do not remember the chip number off hand and I do not know of a source for it, I pulled the demode chip from an older GLB PK1[i think the chip is an Exar 2201?]). While you will be able to hear the NOAA birds (on 137.5 and 137.65{these could be the wrong freqs if they are I will Email you the correct ones} FM..it is a little confusing The signals are transmitted as an fm signal, then you demode them into an AM fax signal and then convert them into a FM signal(like HF wefax)) on your handheld or desktop scanner(if it will tune to these freqs, most newer scanners will but some older ones have a "hole" from 136 to 138)but you will need a wide band fm mode to even start to get an image. I reccomend that you get a copy of Dr Ralph Tagarts WX sat handbook( the ARRL bookstore has it, check out their web site). While you will get a "reasonalble" image with this minimum set up, with only slightly more work you can get MUCH better images. Good luck From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:24 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!news2.net99.net!news.cais.net!primus.ac.net!news.serv.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!mkeitz From: mkeitz@bev.net (Mike Keitz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612 Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:36:24 GMT Organization: TSE Systems Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4frs27$e2f@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <1996Feb10.181511.18322@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4frbbj$3lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mkeitz.beve.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article <4frbbj$3lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Dan Lehnen wrote: >I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco >DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the >same time. [...] Any radio which will operate at 9600 can also handle 1200 through its 9600 port. Forget about the microphone and speaker plugs (well, you could leave a microphone and/or speaker hooked up for occasional analog FM use) and connect either or both TNC ports to the radio's wideband audio port. Then leave the radio in "9600" mode for any digital operation. To operate both modes at the same time, a parallel combiner from the TNC ports is required. The hookup for the receiver is easy. Just connect the discriminator output of the radio to both audio inputs on the TNC. Similarly, the PTT lines can be ORed together by just connecting them in parallel. The transmit audio is the only moderately complicated part. If the TNC mutes the signal out of the port which is not transmitting (I beleive the KPC9612 does), then a simple combiner ("T" network with the radio input in the center) of two resistors will work. You'll probably have to move the jumper inside the TNC to get line-level rather than microphone level audio out of the 1200 baud side to be compatible with the radio's input. Adjust the level controls inside the TNC for the proper deviation on each mode. -Mike KD4QDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:25 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: Dan Lehnen Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612 Date: 14 Feb 1996 00:45:39 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4frbbj$3lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <1996Feb10.181511.18322@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: berlin-4.slip.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: All I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the same time. You Alinco DR-610 owners out there know you have to push the function key and hit the RC key for the "A" to flash right? Ok, when the A is flashing it will transmit and recieve 9600 fine, but nothing on 1200. The same if the A isn't flashing, 1200 fine and nothing 9600. I suspect it will do fine on other radios though. If anyone has gotten it to work on the DR-610 please let me know... These are my experiences with this combination of radio and tnc. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: One Radio with DR-610 and KPC-9612 Message-ID: <1996Feb14.181444.8421@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1996Feb10.181511.18322@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4frbbj$3lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 18:14:44 GMT Lines: 27 In article <4frbbj$3lf@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Dan Lehnen writes: >I have tried using the ONERADIO command with my kpc-9612 and my Alinco >DR-610 with no luck. The Alinco will do 1200 or 9600, but not both at the >same time. You Alinco DR-610 owners out there know you have to push the >function key and hit the RC key for the "A" to flash right? Ok, when the >A is flashing it will transmit and recieve 9600 fine, but nothing on >1200. The same if the A isn't flashing, 1200 fine and nothing 9600. I >suspect it will do fine on other radios though. If anyone has gotten it >to work on the DR-610 please let me know... These are my experiences with >this combination of radio and tnc. Just put it in 9600 mode and wire both TNC ports to the 9600 port on the radio. AF out can be bridged, PTT wire ORed, and Tx audios combined through a pair of 620 ohm resistors. You'll be doing 1200 baud with "flat" tones rather than with the normal twist, but that's usually not a problem. (The old TNC2 had backward twist and it still worked.) But if you want to fix the twist, you can put RC equalizing networks in the 1200 baud lines to and from the TNC. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:29 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!dsinc!ub!csn!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: One Radio with jnos and kpc-9612 Date: 10 Feb 1996 20:48:40 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4fj0b8$9ot@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ala-ca9-25.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Feb 10 12:48:40 PM PST 1996 In paul@ke6et.clark.net (Paul B. Schou) writes: > >Has anyone tried using a single radio on both ports of a kpc-9612? >1200 Baud to the regular mike and audio connectors and 9600 to the >modified i/o connectors. Will the jnos attach and attach kiss commands >handle multiple speed inputs from the same radio? I sort of doubt it, >but thought I'd ask before attacking the hardware. > > >Hillsmere Shores - Annapolis, MD USA - Sailing Capital of the World >Internet: paul@ke6et.clark.net - Packet: ke6et@ke6et.md.usa.noam I have done just that. I modified my PCS-4000 Azden and It works fine that way. Jnos doesn't know that there is only one radio. It's all the same to it. You must turn the ONERADIO command in the TNC to ON so that both channels won't try to transmit at the same time. The other problem of course is that both 1200 and 9600 then are on the same frequency... That's why I since bought a PCS-9600D for 440 9600 bds packet. But if your local channel has a mixture of 1200 and 9600 users, Go ahead. 73 de Jean-Pierre KC6JET From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:30 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!mkeitz From: mkeitz@bev.net (Mike Keitz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: One Week to Green Key Night (& Day) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 96 05:53:11 GMT Organization: TSE Systems Lines: 37 Message-ID: <4frt1k$e2f@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <4fqo9k$rfs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: mkeitz.beve.blacksburg.va.us X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article <4fqo9k$rfs@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (James H. Haynes) wrote: > >Remember Feb 20 is Green Key Night (& Day) - commemorate the beginning of >RTTY on the HF bands. Not a contest, no rules, no score, but > Use a mechanical teleprinter if you can > Use vacuum tube gear if you can > Use 850 Hz shift if you can I didn't think that much shift for low rate FSK signals was still legal in the US. Turns out it almost is (except for the pesky "excessive bandwidth is not good amateur practice" clause in 97.307(a)). But further contradiction is found in Part 97.307(f): [for HF bands longer than 10 m] | (3) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed |in S 97.309(a) of this Part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not |exceed 300 bauds, or for frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift |between mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz. [for the 10m band] | (4) Only a RTTY or data emission using a specified digital code listed |in S 97.309(a) of this Part may be transmitted. The symbol rate must not |exceed 1200 bauds. For frequency-shift keying, the frequency shift between |mark and space must not exceed 1 kHz. Notice the different wording of the two rules. (4) clearly indicates that a symbol rate of more than 1200 bauds is not allowed in the 10m band. However, (3) is worded with an "or" which sounds to me like a symbol rate of more than 300 bauds is legal if the frequency shift is less than 1 KHz (which would allow a symbol rate of nearly 2000 bauds). Has this apparent mis-edit been addresed in a revision of the rules? I suspect (3) should be worded exactly like (4), to specify that the symbol rate is limited to 300 bauds in all cases. -Mike KD4QDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:31 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!interactive.net!winternet.com!guitar.sound.net!imci3!imci5!imci4!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!zombie.ncsc.mil!blackbird.afit.af.mil!news.usafa.af.mil!usenet From: Russ Roslewski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Opinions on Ramsey FX-146 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 1996 22:30:33 -0700 Organization: United States Air Force Academy Lines: 20 Message-ID: <311ED079.4B60@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs26-102.usafa.af.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Hi all, I was looking at possibly getting an FX-146 for use with packet. Since I don't require real frequency agility, just a few channels, this looks to be a good kit. I do have the following questions: - It says it's 9600 compatible; how well does it do? - Easy to build/good instructions? Anyone with any practical experience on this rig, please give me your opinions. Thanks and 73, Russ KI7FL -- roslewskirb96%cs26@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil __|__ PP-ASEL (AOPA #01215297) KI7FL (DM79na) CAP _______(*)_______ "Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar o/ \o "This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:32 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.frontiernet.net!news.his.com!news2.cais.net!news.cais.net!news.jsums.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: daheath@ibm.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: OS/2 drivers for Ottawa PI card on Hobbes Date: 16 Feb 1996 20:24:34 GMT Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4g2p62$pti@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Reply-To: daheath@ibm.net NNTP-Posting-Host: slip37-249-91.ibm.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2.5 For those of you who run JNOS under OS/2 or PMNOS 1.2 I've uploaded the latest version of the OS/2 PI card drivers to hobbes.nmsu.edu/incoming/PI2DRV10.ZIP . These drivers allow JNOS running in a VDM to use the Ottawa PI or PI-2 card. All source code is included. File Descriptions for PI2DRV10.ZIP PI2DRVR.SYS Version 0.93 An OS/2 device driver for the Ottawa PI card. Supports both original and PI-2 cards. Supports both A cnd B channels. Can be used with PMNOS 1.2 or JNOS. VPI2.SYS Version 1.01 An OS/2 virtual device driver which allows a modified version of JNOS to use the PI card when running in a VDM under OS/2. NOS.EXE JNOS110i compiled with a replacement PI driver for use with the OS/2 drivers. PI2DRV09.ZIP Source for OS/2 PI card physical device driver. Version 0.93 VPI2.ZIP Source for OS/2 virtual device driver 1.01- allows JNOS to use OS/2 PI card dr iver PI2-JNOS.ZIP Source for JNOS replacement PI card drivers. (Must be compliled into JNOS) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:34 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!globe.indirect.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!inews.intel.com!usenet From: Dave Curtis Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: packet radio Date: 15 Feb 1996 01:44:05 GMT Organization: Intel Microcomputer Software Laboratories Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4fu355$gd3@inews.sc.intel.com> References: <4fspmk$4cs@barnacle.iol.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: 143.183.124.181 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 32bit) To: fgoggin@trintech.ie Try the Tuscon Amateur Packet Radio home page at: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/ 73, Dave NG0X fgoggin@trintech.ie (Fergal Goggin) wrote: >Where would I get some backround info on amatuer packet radio? >Reply via e-mail please. >Thanks for any help >regards, >_________________________________ >Fergal Goggin - Software Engineer >Trintech Ltd., >South County Business Park, >Leopardstown, Dublin 18, Ireland. >_________________________________ >Telphone: +353-1-2956766 >Fax: +353-1-2954735 >E-mail: fgoggin@trintech.ie >_________________________________ > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:35 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!iol!usenet From: fgoggin@trintech.ie (Fergal Goggin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: packet radio Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:51:34 GMT Organization: Ireland On-Line Lines: 15 Message-ID: <4fspmk$4cs@barnacle.iol.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: caribou.trintech.ie X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Where would I get some backround info on amatuer packet radio? Reply via e-mail please. Thanks for any help regards, _________________________________ Fergal Goggin - Software Engineer Trintech Ltd., South County Business Park, Leopardstown, Dublin 18, Ireland. _________________________________ Telphone: +353-1-2956766 Fax: +353-1-2954735 E-mail: fgoggin@trintech.ie _________________________________ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:36 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.neca.com!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Repeater Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 09:13:27 -0500 Organization: Motorola RNSG - Pvt Data Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <1996Feb4.141714.14973@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4fauav$51m$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article <4fauav$51m$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> wrote: > A repeater is a repeater, whether it carries voice or data, and > must operate in the repeater segments of the bands. SERA > coordinates > all pairs in the repeater segments impartially. Simplex packet > is > a thornier problem. That usage takes place in what has > traditionally > been uncoordinated spectrum. SERA has opted to work with State > packet > organizations to deal with this. Each State's packet group is > allowed > to act as coordinator for simplex packet. > ------------------------------------------------------- > I disagree....if a duplex packet digi is set up ONLY to pass data > and NOT voice, it is a digi-peater and can operate ANYWHERE in > the band it wants to...just like a simplex digi....NOW if it is > an analog rptr that passes ANYTHING, then it must remain in the > repeater subbands....but to pass ONLY AX.25 packets, it is free > to go anywhere it wishes > > Chris > Ex Board of Directors member and life member- TX VHF FM Society; > RF Technical Director - Texas Coastal Amateur Packet Society > (TCAPS) > > -- > Senior Telecommunications Technician 72732.2610@CompuServe.com > ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities 1:106/4267 FIDOnet > WB5ITT - Advanced Class BBS- 409-447-4267 (WBBS) > PG-9-5322 FCC Commercial 409-525-2001 PhoneMail 24hr CHRIS- If the station is running as a "store and forward" digipeater I agree with your interpretation. However, Gary is referring to real-time direct rebroadcast, not store-and-forward. There's a lot of confusion in terminology among people unfamiliar with FCC R&R and/or packet technology (not you). However, this one is clearly defined in the rules. A packet repeater (not S&F) MUST comply with the same operating restrictions (97.205) as any other repeater, whether it retransmits voice, ATV, RTTY, or any other authorized mode; Par 97.109 d and e also covers RTTY and packet respectively, but clearly does NOT supercede the requirements in 97.205. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola Pvt Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > (708) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 ** Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996! ** ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!news-relay.us.dell.com!news From: jscott@ccmail.us.dell.com (John Scott) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PK232 and WeFax? Help. Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 17:14:00 GMT Organization: Dell Computer Corporation Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4g2e1u$qtl@uudell.us.dell.com> References: <4g10ui$r86@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: jscott.us.dell.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 arden@teleport.com (Arden Eby) wrote: >I have an AEA PK232 that I know does WeFax since I was able to get it >working on my (old) Macintosh. Now I'm running a "wintel" machine >under Win95. I like most things about the new machine but I can't >seem to find a fax program that interfaces with the PK232. I have >found plenty of PD/shareware fax programs but all of them seem to >require me to buid a specific interface. This seems like it should be >unnecessary since the PK232 has a fax mode. Any ideas? The PK232 will do fax and all you need to do is to use the program that interfaces with the 232 as a terminal. The command for wefax should be in you manual and there is a print con command you can set to print out the data onto you printer. I have not found a way of displaying the data on the screen yet. Make sure you printer is connected to the pk232 or your terminal program can re-route the output to the printer... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:38 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.spss.com!uchinews!ncar!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Please help ID this equipment: Date: 14 Feb 1996 02:02:57 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 12 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4fs1f1$o4j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Anyone in the group familiar with the following? UDS brand, V.23 A/S Data Modem Avanti brand, 600G Local Area Data Distributor Dinosaurs or are they useful in todays digital world......? Thanks. Rick Crider KD4FXA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:39 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.tcd.net!news From: rayc@tcd.net (Ray D. Congdon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters Date: Tue, 13 Feb 96 22:15:39 GMT Organization: ISA-USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip7.cedar.tcd.net X-Newsreader: Quarterdeck Message Center [1.0] My 2 Bits... I have designed and builta repeater system that alowed sharing o f one pair of freqs between voice and data. It was done on NTIA authorized freqs as a demonstration. (Fed Government Freqs). What was done was to simply tone prote ct voice and use data carrier detection on the data. I used KPC-2400's for the d ata and a modified GE Mastr-Pro repeater. (set up to repeat on carrier or tone and only regenerate the tone out if tone was detected on the input) The demo was rathe r dramatic and worked quite well. The voice users were totally unaware of the d ata that was being sent on the same system. Listening to the system "in the clear " was interesting. Data was sent at a leisurly rate until a voice conversation was intitiated. At that point the data of course halted and politely waited for a n open spot... when that occured, between voice transmissions, the data packets were furiously exchanged! Worked quite well but was a political "flop" due to bias against "ham" technology. It gave greater coverage and conserved both equipmnet and spectrum. ---- Ray D. Congdon N7HQK ISA-USA 5515 N. 4400 W. Cedar City, Utah 84720 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:40 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news1.mpcs.com!hgoldste From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters Date: 13 Feb 1996 20:58:11 GMT Organization: disorganization Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Reply-To: hg@n2wx.ampr.org NNTP-Posting-Host: bbs.mpcs.com X-Newsreader: slrn (0.8.5) On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT, Robert Walker wrote: : In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a : 'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a : difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the : word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and, : therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.). The distinction is news to me as well. Must be a west coast (U.S.) thing (ducking, running) -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx / From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:41 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters Message-ID: <1996Feb14.175201.8278@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:52:01 GMT Lines: 23 In article <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz .au writes: >Hi All! >In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a >'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a >difference between the two. In common usage, here in Australia, the >word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and, >therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.). They do here in the US too. The real distinction is between digipeater (or digi) and digital repeater. A digital repeater isn't store and forward, but a digi (digipeater) is. Note, our government doesn't recognize the terms digi or digipeater, they are amateur slang. Our FCC calls such operations digital store and forward stations. And the FCC calls digital repeaters simply repeaters, and treats them like any other repeater for the purpose of regulation. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:43 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 13:57:17 -0500 Organization: Motorola RNSG - Pvt Data Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article , rayc@tcd.net (Ray D. Congdon) wrote: > My 2 Bits... I have designed and built a repeater system that allowed sharing of one > pair of freqs between voice and data. It was done on NTIA authorized freqs as a > demonstration. (Fed Government Freqs). What was done was to simply tone protect > voice and use data carrier detection on the data. I used KPC-2400's for the data > and a modified GE Mastr-Pro repeater. (set up to repeat on carrier or tone and only > regenerate the tone out if tone was detected on the input) The demo was rather > dramatic and worked quite well. > (SNIP) > Worked quite well but was a political "flop" due to bias > against "ham" technology. > It gave greater coverage and conserved both equipmnet and spectrum. > ---- > Ray D. Congdon N7HQK > ISA-USA > 5515 N. 4400 W. > Cedar City, Utah 84720 No offense, but what did you expect from USFG/NTIA bureaucrats? The users were about to lose justification for tying up frequencies which could then be auctioned to the highest bidder. Just so you understand that I'm not just picking on the Feds, several technically advanced hams or clubs have tried the same thing on their repeaters operating in the amateur bands, and the whole progressive idea fell apart there too. Voice users would not time-share the repeater and refused to either buy CTCSS for their rigs or tolerate the squawks. Sometimes you really DO have to legislate technology advances, even when the action taken is merely to prohibit the continued use of methods that have been obsolete for twenty years, such as carrier squelch and only one repeater on a channel pair in an area. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola Pvt Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > (708) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 ** Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996! ** ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:44 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!rain.fr!jussieu.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!news.usafa.af.mil!usenet From: Russ Roslewski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Remote access to PBBS? Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 11:54:48 -0700 Organization: United States Air Force Academy Lines: 18 Message-ID: <31238178.4ADD@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs26-102.usafa.af.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b6a (Win95; I) Hi, I'm pretty new to this packet stuff, and have a question. What I want to do is be able to connect to my home PBBS from elsewhere, to read my mail, etc. Now, other people can connect to my PBBS just fine, but when I try to do it, I can't connect. MYCALL is KI7FL and the PBBS is KI7FL-1. I'm using both a KAM and a KPC-3. I guess maybe it's a problem with my home station and other station both having the same call, but how do I fix it? Any help is greatly appreciated. Russ KI7FL -- roslewskirb96%cs26@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil __|__ PP-ASEL (AOPA #01215297) KI7FL (DM79na) CAP _______(*)_______ "Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar o/ \o "This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:45 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: michaelm@doruk.COM.TR (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: REQ: Latest version of G8BPQ SW ? Date: 15 Feb 96 05:36:12 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 20 Message-ID: <9602142142.aa23235@bbs.doruk.com.tr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On 9 Feb 1996 etjfonte@ci.ua.pt (Jose Miguel Fonte) wrote: >Hello all , >Can anyone tell me wich is the latest version of the G8BPQ software ? >We are using BPQ SW in our local packet cluster and I would like >to know if there is a new version of the program ! >I am also looking for pc/flexnet to do some testing , can anyone >tell me where I can get this software (BPQ and PC/FLXNET). Hello, Jose Miguel - As far as I know, BPQ v4.08a is the latest. I'm told that you can FTP it from ftp.funet.fi (pub/ham/packet). I got it from a landline BBS in the US. Can't help with pc/flexnet, sorry. Good luck! and 73 - de Mike (TA2ZG/W2AV) Remote Sysop TA2EM BBS - first PRBBS in Turkiye Amateur Packet Radio: TA2ZG@TA2EM.#IST.TUR.EU Internet (email only): Michael C. McHugh From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:47 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!imci2!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.goodnet.com!goodguy!ecloud From: ecloud@goodguy (Shawn Ruttledge) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal? Date: 13 Feb 1996 00:55:35 GMT Organization: GoodNet Lines: 39 Message-ID: <4foni7$kc@news1.goodnet.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: goodnet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] C. T. Nadovich (chris@kd3bj.ampr.org) wrote: : chris@kd3bj.ampr.org (C. T. Nadovich) writes: : >Is there a Unix version of J/TNOS (or some easy hack) that allows this : >program to be started at boot time and run in the background? I hate : >having to start it and waste a terminal (even a virtural one!). : >= = = : >Key points: : > Remember, I'm running Linux, not DOS. : > No, I don't want to install kernel AX25. : > No, I don't want to manually run JNOS under expect. : Anybody have any idea? RTFM. Basically the Unix equivalent of autoexec.bat is the scripts in /etc/rc.d. Read the scripts and you'll see what they do. I don't know what kind of output NOS creates, but you can always pipe it to /dev/null if it's just occasional text messages (not heavy-duty fancy formatted text, or menus that you need to interact with). So the command line in the /etc/rc.d/rc.local for instance might be jnos > /dev/null & & means "run in the background and gimme the command prompt back". But, how would that even be useful, to run it without seeing it show up on one of the vc's? Isn't it true that you have to interact with the main program to make connections and do other useful stuff? I believe there is a way to make a program appear on a particular vc too, instead of the default one. And I've yet to run out of vc's anyway; 10 is more than I can keep track of in my mind. -- _______ KB7PWD @ KC7Y.AZ.US.NOAM ecloud@goodnet.com (_ | |_) html: http://www.goodnet.com/~ecloud __) | | \__________________________________________________________________ * electronic music * freedom of information * quantize the universe * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!news.westnet.com!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!news.radio.org!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: tnc cable for HTX-202? Message-ID: <1996Feb14.170120.7909@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <4esa3g$4lj@everest.iserv.net> <4foq34$s08@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 17:01:20 GMT Lines: 82 In article <4foq34$s08@solaris.cc.vt.edu> mkeitz@bev.net (Mike Keitz) writes: >In article <4esa3g$4lj@everest.iserv.net>, > pete@grfn.org (Pete Hoffswell) wrote: >>Sorry, I'm sure you get this note once a month, but... >[...] >>Anyone know how to make a Realistic HTX-202 to TNC Cable? >[...] > >The HTX 202 interface is compatible with most older Icom, Yaesu, or >Standard HTs (essentially any brand other than Kenwood that has two plugs), >so if you find a diagram or assembled cable for those it will work. > >The PTT function is combined with the mirophone input on these radios. >Drawing DC current out of the microphone jack will turn the transmitter on. > The cable does this with a resistor/capacitor arrangement: > >TNC: RADIO: > >PTT --- R ------*------------ MIC TIP > | >AF OUT --- C --- > >AF IN ----------------------- SPKR TIP > >GND ------------------------- MIC SLEEVE > SPKR SLEEVE > >Use two small-diameter shielded cables with the radio plugs simply >connected directly to one end. Put the resistor and capacitor inside the >plug shell on the TNC end. The resistor R is usually in the range of 2.2 K >ohm to 4.7 K ohm. It doesn't need to be exact. Some radios won't key with >the 4.7 K so I'd recommend using a 2.2. The capacitor couples the audio >out of the TNC into the microphone input. A value of 0.1 uF (microfarad) >usually works. As you can see from the diagram, the speaker output is >simply connected directly to the AF input of the TNC. You can plug in only >the speaker plug and the radio will not be able to transmit (this is useful >for example to decode packet signals that may leak into a voice repeater, >without sending any there yourself). > >-Mike KD4QDM Note that the capacitor may already be included in the TNC, consult your schematic, so you may not need to outboard one. And some TNCs also have the resistor internal, and all you need to do is move a jumper to activate it. So in those cases all you need is wire between the TNC and the radio. Consult your TNC manual and schematic to see if these features are available before installing the outboard components. Also, there is a different connection that I prefer for Icom, Yaesu, and Radio Shack HTs that uses a transformer turned sideways like so: TNC PTT------------))))))))-----------> HT Mic tip ======== TNC AF out----------))))))-----x | TNC GND------------------------x-------> HT ear sleeve TNC AF IN <----------------------------> HT ear tip The transformer can be any miniature audio transformer, scavenged from a transistor radio or gotten from a Radio Shack grab bag. Just wire it inline and cover it with heat shrink tubing. This circuit gives a positive, and fast, PTT. The RC network in the other method can cause slow key up and release with some HTs, particularly Icoms, which want a 10k resistor instead of the 2.2k resistor used with Yaesu or Radio Shack HTs. 2.2k may be used with the Icoms, but presents undesirable loading of their input circuits, which may cause problems with drive levels and frequency response. Regardless of which circuit you use, be sure to adjust the tone levels for 3 kHz deviation of the HT signal. This is very important for best results. If deviation is too high, distortion will make your packets difficult for others to copy. And if deviation is too low, some stations may miss your packets as well. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:49 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsat!engineer.mrg.uswest.com!news.uoregon.edu!news.u.washington.edu!uw-beaver!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!uniserve!news.sol.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.pitt.edu!bb3.andrew.cmu.edu!casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu!usenet@cs.cmu.edu From: mkb@hootie.ius.cs.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off? Date: 15 Feb 1996 16:53:55 GMT Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4fvof3$2g7@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> References: <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: hootie.ius.cs.cmu.edu X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.4 B&B Electronics makes a number of little boxes which have serial I/O on one side and various combinations of parallel, relay, A/D and D/A on the other, with a little microcontroller in between. I've used them with great success to have a Mac control various things. Their phone number is 1-815-433-5100, or ping 'em at http://www.bb-elec.com. Mike Blackwell ke3ig In article <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu>, skoenig+@cs.cmu.edu (Sven Koenig) writes: > >I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices >on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely, >ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that? > >Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards? > >Every hint is appreciated... >Thanks! >Sven > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:50 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!aimnet.com!news.exodus.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: What about ham radio that is on the cutting edge. Date: 13 Feb 1996 00:12:27 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <4fol1b$nrj@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <4fn47d$j76@www.acay.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: s202.ccsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:437 aus.radio.amateur.wicen:70 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19061 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14142 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24936 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13330 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98072 rec.radio.scanner:45535 rec.radio.swap:57485 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:51 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hermes.is.co.za!cat.co.za!nobody From: jyrih@cat.co.za (Jyri Hamalainen) Subject: Re: What's PGP?? Message-ID: Sender: nobody@garfield.cat.co.za Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: CAT Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:38:34 GMT References: <1996Jan20.152846.11426@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Jan23.145717.28089@schbbs.mot.com> <4edaue$bki@news.accessus.net> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Lines: 22 In article <4edaue$bki@news.accessus.net>, awilson@accessus.net says... > >o10022@a81.corp.mot.com wrote: >: How/where can one obtain a copy of PGP? > >I can't give you the address -- why don't you check out the pgp newsgroup? > >BTW, it is available and free >: Use the European version when you find it. Speculation has it that the US version has been doctored. Try a web search for PGP or RSA. If all fails mail the sci.crypt news group. If that fails mail me and I'll ftp you a copy with the windows frontend. I use it all the time for email. Regards From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:53 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!bcm.tmc.edu!news.tamu.edu!news From: mluther@tamu.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WINLINK - Can it help me ?? Date: 14 Feb 1996 06:10:01 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Lines: 64 Message-ID: <4frubp$3np@news.tamu.edu> References: <4fluj3$f08@usenet.pa.dec.com> Reply-To: mluther@tamu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.194.44.219 X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <4fluj3$f08@usenet.pa.dec.com>, p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) writes: >Hello OM's > >What is Winlink. I gather it is used for e-mail messages and can be >used for e-mail forwarding ?!?!?. Is this true or am I misguided. > >I am looking for a mail package that I can simply attach export files >to e-mail and send them out automagically. What package can I use ?? >Obviously I would import them also and forward them around to VK.. > >Cheers..Pete..vk2yx >Cheers..Peter > >e-mail: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com >ax25:vk2yx@vk2tgb.nsw.aus.oc (for those that underestand) > >The opiniuons expressed herein are solely mine and my employer >does not have the right to use my opinions.. > WINLINK is a Windows 3.1 based TNC program that does what you wish, from what I know. Several of us in the area use it. I don't because all of my TNC use also has to be run remotely over the phone lines as well as locally, while using OS/2 in OS/2 native and DOS VDM text modes at the same time. I've copied off your address for E'mail. If I can get the crew to pay any attention to the I'net, I'll see if one of them can get it to you or at least email you a message to start you on how do download it. I've used it. It is a nice program that also requires modification of the WIN.INI files by hand to optimize the thing. It requires a pre-load of a communications library package to handle serial port I/O. It has a built-in VHF/HF gateway operation for autoforwarding on HF and cross band VHF/HF stuff that works VERY nicely. Once tuned up for your favorite combination of ports and TNC's you should be very happy with it, if you are using WIN 3.1 for your basic computer operating platform and are not multi-tasking a bunch of other comm stuff on other ports at the same time. This program was used extensively in the official testing for unattended autoforwarding on HF here in the USA, together with autoforwarding of gatewayed stuff from VHF into the HF digital circuits. N5TC, Tom Comstock, the West Gulf Division Director for the ARRL, who is from my city was one of htose special licensed hams that took part in the program, as was one other ham 20 north of me. They are solid devoted fans of WINLINK. I'll pass this to them and see what happens. I don't have an IP address for email from you and my FidoNet node number of 1:117:3000 that I sysop now can be reached by reply to me at mike.luther@f3000.n117.z1@fidonet.org, however, the FidoNet gateway is going down in its present form at the end of February. It may take a while for the gateway operations to resume after the mess of message ramming from the list servers on the Inet side of the gate that pounded the gate into oblivion as'twas. :) Mike Luther as a guest at leviathan.tamu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:54 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!peer-news.britain.eu.net!strath-cs!news.staffs.ac.uk!bs47c!cm4bcatp From: cm4bcatp@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk (Connor^Macleod) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Winpack V5.4 Here!!! Date: 15 Feb 1996 08:53:39 GMT Organization: Staffordshire University Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4fusaj$m00@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: bs47c.staffs.ac.uk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi I have finally found winpack V5.4 which is a very good program deffinently worth installing runs with BPQ. ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/packet/terminal and the file is winp540.zip bpq is also on there in /pub/ham/g8bpq Have fun...... -- ==================================================================== Alias :Connor^Macleod E-Mail CM4BCATP@BS47C.STAFFS.AC.UK Degree Student @ Staffs University UK Life is what you make it.... =================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:55 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 08:46:28 -0500 Organization: Motorola RNSG - Pvt Data Lines: 57 Message-ID: References: <31184857.351D@ghgcorp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article <31184857.351D@ghgcorp.com>, "Ros St. John" wrote: > Hi. Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk. > > STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!! BEWARE!!!! > > I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very > least, the center section thereof. > > Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11. > > Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER. > > Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna. > > Want AEA OR M2 434 mhz. atv antenna. > > Thank you. > > W5BRY, Ros. > > my email is rstjohn@ghgcorp.com The "No Pay" will happen with all reputable insurance carriers if: 1) The tower is not erected in compliance with the manufacturer's drawings, or an alternate method designed and certified by a registered structural engineer; 2) The tower is loaded beyond the published manufacturer's ratings or alternate ratings certified by a registered structural engineer; 3) A retractable tower is not retracted during high winds (violates #2 above) ; 4) The total amount of damage claimed would normally require an "excess coverage" rider, which is available specifically to cover high-risk or high-value items such as collections of valuables, jewelry, radios, etc. From the list of antennas you are looking to buy, that tower was overloaded even in 50 mph winds, which is where TriEx used to rate their retractable/collapsible tower structures. If you had a PE design or load-rate your former tower and you did not exceed those ratings, your claim for damages would be against that PE firm, not State Farm. As a State Farm member (it's a MUTUAL company in Ohio) and a registered PE, I agree that they should reject claims for the above reasons. If they quoted you some other reason, call your family attorney. Your Mileage May Vary. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola Private Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > (708) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 ** Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996! ** ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:57 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ghgcorp.com!usenet From: Ros Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WTB: TOWER/ANTENNAE Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 13:54:48 -0800 Organization: GHG Corporation Lines: 78 Message-ID: <31225A28.3473@ghgcorp.com> References: <31184857.351D@ghgcorp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialupline18.ghgcorp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Karl, I appreciate your reply however, I must point out that you are making many, many assumptions that even if true are incorrect. You assume previous tower loading, wind rating (load) and your figures are not correct according to the manufacturer. Further, without know the details of the claim/case, you assume that they were correct in rejecting the claim. There are many, many ramifications to this issue which you have not been informed of but, I do thank you for the time that you have taken for your input. Ros St. John, E.E. Karl Beckman wrote: > > In article <31184857.351D@ghgcorp.com>, "Ros St. John" > wrote: > > > Hi. Due to a tornado, my tower and antennae are now junk. > > > > STATE FARM INSURANCE REFUSES TO PAY CLAIM!!!!! BEWARE!!!! > > > > I am looking for a used TRI-EX/HYGAIN LM-354 tower or at the very > > least, the center section thereof. > > > > Want used HYGAIN TH-7DXS OR TH-11. > > > > Want used CUSCHCRAFT 2 METER BOOMER. > > > > Want M2 1.2 gig atv antenna. > > > > Want AEA OR M2 434 mhz. atv antenna. > > > > Thank you. > > > > W5BRY, Ros. > > > > my email is rstjohn@ghgcorp.com > > The "No Pay" will happen with all reputable insurance carriers if: > 1) The tower is not erected in compliance with the manufacturer's > drawings, or an alternate method designed and certified by a registered > structural engineer; > 2) The tower is loaded beyond the published manufacturer's ratings or > alternate ratings certified by a registered structural engineer; > 3) A retractable tower is not retracted during high winds (violates #2 abov e); > 4) The total amount of damage claimed would normally require an "excess > coverage" rider, which is available specifically to cover high-risk or > high-value items such as collections of valuables, jewelry, radios, etc. > > From the list of antennas you are looking to buy, that tower was > overloaded even in 50 mph winds, which is where TriEx used to rate their > retractable/collapsible tower structures. If you had a PE design or > load-rate your former tower and you did not exceed those ratings, your > claim for damages would be against that PE firm, not State Farm. > > As a State Farm member (it's a MUTUAL company in Ohio) and a registered > PE, I agree that they should reject claims for the above reasons. If they > quoted you some other reason, call your family attorney. Your Mileage May > Vary. > -- > Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > > Motorola Private Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > > (708) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 > ** Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996! ** > ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** > -- > By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the > sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. > -- > Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:58 1996 Path: news.epix.net!uunet!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jrosariojr@aol.com (JRosariojr) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter Date: 14 Feb 1996 03:49:49 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 1 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4fs7nd$por@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4fn47d$j76@www.acay.com.au> Reply-To: jrosariojr@aol.com (JRosariojr) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:446 aus.radio.amateur.wicen:71 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:19099 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:14179 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:24980 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:13359 rec.radio.amateur.misc:98120 rec.radio.scanner:45613 rec.radio.swap:57615 good luck From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:39:59 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WTD & Info: Universal M8000 / M400 Date: 15 Feb 1996 23:43:28 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 16 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4g121g$dg5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: rickcrider@aol.com (RICKCRIDER) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com OK, OK,....... My previous posting asking about an all-purpose digital decoder went unanswered....maybe it was too vague or just too 'stupid'. Soooo...... Can anyone help me understand the difference (other than $$$$) between the Universal M8000 and the Universal M400 digital decoders? I do understand that the 8000 will decode packet, but so will the el-cheapo TNC's.....will the 8000 act as a TNC and allow transmission on packet also? Or, on the other hand, would I be better off to buy the Universal M400 and a seperate TNC for packet work? Ultimately, I'm looking for equipment that will decipher as many digital transmissions as possible, without having to buy several seperate pieces of equipment. All help appreciated. Thanks in advance. Cordially: Rick Crider KD4FXA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:40:00 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!imci4!imci5!pull-feed.internetmci.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "Stan R. Coleman" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: 13 Feb 1996 19:38:00 GMT Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4fqpao$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-0.tcgcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert System. It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well. If any one has any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me know. What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over the repeaters. So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or Repeaters. I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines. I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus maybe a microprocessor to make all this work. ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:40:01 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!twizzler.callamer.com!biggulp.callamer.com!cbuttsch From: Clifford Buttschardt Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 10:52:35 -0800 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (805) 541 6316 Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <4fqp9g$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: biggulp.callamer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4fqp9g$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET> Stan: I too had an interest in the FSK transmission by the National Weather Service and attended a briefing here on the West coast to learn more. What transpired was that one and only one Canadian outfit was making decoders. You asked about off the shelf products and this manufacturer had a strangle hold on the product. I asked for further information on the FSK scheme and was told that the information was proprietary! I simply can not conceive of a US government agency in which such information is not readily available and especially so from a non US manufacturer!-nothing wrong with Canada of course as it happens that they took the initiative! That is as far as I have been able to go with this and I am still concerned that this inforamation is NOT public knowledge and available by many providers and home builders. Cliff Buttschardt W6HDO On 13 Feb 1996, Stan R. Coleman wrote: > I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert > System. It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the > ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather > Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well. If any one has > any OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS that I can use to decode this signal, let me > know. What I want to do is to use this information to bring up a series > of Repeaters Using DTMF signals, and then to play the WX Radio audio over > the repeaters. So first I need to decode the FSK signal then sort the > information as to County, etc. then to bring up the Repeater or > Repeaters. I know I'm rambling but maybe you can read between the lines. > I would need to have a FSK decoder (Modem) and a DTMF generator, plus > maybe a microprocessor to make all this work. ANY IDEAS OR QUESTIONS > PLEAS E-MAIL ME!!!! > > > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Feb 17 13:40:02 1996 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!twizzler.callamer.com!biggulp.callamer.com!cbuttsch From: Clifford Buttschardt Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:39:56 -0800 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (805) 541 6316 Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: biggulp.callamer.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199602152250.OAA22447@hobbes.UCSC.EDU> Jim I have as many concernes about this "secrecy" thing on the weather service digital broadcasts as you. I considered asking the local congresswoman for help, but I think if we contact our local guys at NOAA we'll get to the goal faster than any damn fool congress person. The local guys want us to have that info as badly as we want it. Can you make contact locally? I will do so again to get the name of the Canadian manufacturer. Cliff Buttschardt W6HDO On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Jim Haynes wrote: > Right On! I have exactly the same concerns. Shall we write our congress > critters? > From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:34 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC? Date: 20 Feb 1996 18:59:02 GMT Message-ID: <4gd5lm$p77@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com> In article <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com>, Edwin Teh wrote: >I'd like to buy a simple TNC. Could anyone comment on the following units: > >Kantronics KPC-3, Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc. >AEA PK12 Nice, but my last pick of the 3. Configuration loading and setup are more of a hassle on this one, but once set right, will preform well. This TNC requires 12vdc, but I have ran run from the car at 13.8vdc, and didnt seem to hurt it any. >MFJ-1270C Good TNC. Best 300 HF preformer of the group, and the audio tone is the best. The MFJ is ma TAPR clone, hence, the modem can be upgraded to 9600 without much problem. This TNC runs fine from 10vdc to 14vdc. IMHO, I would choose the MFJ for a home station stand alone TNC. If you have visions of useing it in the field, car, ect., I would pick the KPC-3 because of its versitility. Take care. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: dbaker@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Donald I. Baker) Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City, TXxID-1 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 02:18:32 GMT References: <4efpb3$pt2@alpha.sky.net> <4ete1q$b0o@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> <4fgm3h$7n3@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4g6ard$han@news.pacifier.com> In article <4g6ard$han@news.pacifier.com> narc@pacifier.com () writes: >From: narc@pacifier.com () >Subject: Re: 82 Repeater in Kansas City, TXxID-1 >Date: 18 Feb 1996 04:44:29 GMT >I WRITE: > Of course if you are a smart jammer like myself. You simply >construct a simple automatic rf sensing switch box. Simply made from rip >off shack parts. What it does is for the first 100mills on the tx my rf >output is directed into a small 10 watt 50 ohm dumy load, after the cap >charges up it causes the relay to swithc me over to my antenna. >VAWALLLLAAAAA NO fingerprint. Of course no fingerprint is a fingerprint. >but now i cant give out all my secrets can I? >jeff aa7up >PDX, or of course you could just mod the radio so that the final is "up" all the time and just switch the link between the driver and final........... Donald I. Baker Reville Engineering Services 4619 Schenley Road Baltimore, MD 21210-2525 (410) 467-7163 Custon Harsh Environment Computers and RF Products "Where no PC has gone before..." From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:38 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: AlbanianRadio Message-ID: <1996Feb19.144318.1108@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1918B724D8@cos.aubg.bg> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:43:18 GMT In article <1918B724D8@cos.aubg.bg> enb950@cos.aubg.bg writes: >Hi everybody, > >l am a CS student from Albania at an American College in Bulgaria. >l would like to set up some packet radio (between me and some friends) in >Albania. l don't think there exists a packet radio network in Albania as of >now, although l have heard some foreigners (who work in Albania) communicate >via radio. > >l would like to know about the cost of gear that handles 9600kb/s or above, a nd >especially if there is such that does this (or higher) in very mountainous >areas (10-15 mountains of 1500-2000m between the points to be connected). l >am considering commercial stuff as well. Getting over the mountains is a problem. The 9600 baud and faster gear is intended for operation at VHF/UHF, and that's mostly line of sight. If you can put relay stations on a couple of the mountains, you can make it work. But if you can't do that, your better choice will be to use the lower end of HF using a technique called NVIS (Near Vertical Incidence Skywave). Basically you use antennas that fire almost straight up. The signal bounces off the ionosphere and comes back almost straight down. This gets you good coverage out to a hundred miles or so, and avoids the problem of obstacles like mountains. The problem with this approach is that speeds as fast as 9600 baud aren't really practical at lower HF due to multipath smearing of the symbols. Real throughput is limited to about 750 bps with available equipment. That's better than nothing, however. In theory, more elaborate modulation schemes can give better throughput than that, but in the amateur bands we have regulations that don't let us use those techniques. A commercial fixed service license would be required to use those better techniques. >Please let me know about manufacturers and dealers in Europe (the closest to >Bulgaria the better -- l don't think l could afford airmailing such gear) I'll let our European colleagues comment on dealers and prices over there. Here, we can put together a good 9600 baud UHF station for about $300. A low end NVIS HF station might run close to $1000. (Of course you *can* spend more, but you don't have to.) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:38 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Message-ID: <265@yebbs.com> Reply-To: samir_khayat@yebbs.com (SAMIR KHAYAT) From: samir_khayat@yebbs.com (SAMIR KHAYAT) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT Subject: Amator & Pactor... Hi, I am looking for a program that can receive Amtor and Pactor using a simple comparator circuit (like the HAMCOM). I would appreciate the name of such programs if available. Best 73's Samir , ( OD5SK / KC5RYL) ... °±²Û CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK Û²±° ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:40 1996 From: davekri@worldnet.att.net (Dave Krieps) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 14:46:32 GMT Message-ID: <4g7e38$s7t@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: jon scott wrote: >BEWARE OF DELAING WITH DERRICK HALL OF SEATTLE, WASHINGTON! >On November 17, 1995 I sent him a money order (as he and I agreed) for >a PK232. He claims to have sent the package but that it was >returned. I assured him that the address in my letter that >accompanied the money order was correct (a mail center) and to resend >the package. As you dear reader, have guessed by now, no package. >If any body in Seattle reads this and employees this man (I think he >is an independent contractor) be sure you are getting good value for >your time and money. He is not very honest in his dealings on the >Internet. >Jon Scott One way to avoid these types of deals is to have the possesor of the equipment send it COD. At least you get a package (no telling what's in it) and the sender doesn't get any money until the package arrives. I have purchased several things this way and, fortunately, have gotten what I paid for. There is really no way to judge the character of individuals who sell through the postal service. Dave Krieps "Those who avoid decapitation leave more offspring." -Carl Sagan From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:41 1996 From: jesse@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Dr. Jesse B. Taintor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE Date: 20 Feb 1996 13:44:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4gd4qm$9bj@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> References: <4g7e38$s7t@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> This guy sounds like a crook to me. If he uses the mail in his business, you could contact his local postmaster concerning mail fraud. Many big crooks and whitewater types have been caught on the mail fraud rap. I wish you good luck in getting your money back and this creep out of the business. JBT -- Dr. Jesse B. Taintor, Director of Data Processing, Policy Sciences, FSU Internet: jtaintor@coss.fsu.edu Office (904) 644-3848 Home (904) 224-6888 FAX (904) 644-0581 "No more good must be attempted than the public can bear." T. Jefferson From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:42 1996 From: jon scott Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 19:50:27 DST Message-ID: References: <4g7ib1$s3b@whidbey.whidbey.com> In Article<4g7ib1$s3b@whidbey.whidbey.com>, write: > Path: pacbell.com!gw2.att.com!news.midplains.net!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net !news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!whidbey.!usenet > From: subbustr@whidbey.net (DAVE M . SCHERTZER) > Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equ ipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner > Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEATTLE > Date: 18 Feb 1996 15:58:25 GMT > Organization: DND CF DET Whidbey Is. WA > Lines: 4 > Message-ID: <4g7ib1$s3b@whidbey.whidbey.com> Hi Folks, Today (2/20/96) I was able to confirm that Mr. Hall indeed has defrauded me - I called him twice this AM and he hung up on me both times. I would love to post this to a Seattle news group as one responder (Mr. Schertzer) suggested but my news provider does not give me access to seattle.forsale.misc. Thanks also to others that suggested methods to try and reduce getting taken in business transactions on the internet. Jon Scott > References: > NNTP-Posting-Host: asn133.whidbey.net > Mime-Version: 1.0 > X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.11 > Xref: pacbell.com rec.radio.swap:50374 rec.radio.shortwave:70700 rec.radio.scanner:48143 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:27201 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:15125 alt.radio.scanner:19994 > > You might consider posting this to: > > seattle.forsale.misc - newsgroup also? > From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:43 1996 From: Roland S Geter PhD Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Broadcasting Radio Station Database for you...... Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:47:44 GMT Message-ID: <4g4170$hl2@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4fme8u$bsf@news.flinet.com> To: chuck@mail.flinet.com Hi Chuck, Let's try to get the database over here on this provider, OK? Thanks Roland S Geter PhD roland@mycronet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:44 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: sscalsk@atc.ameritel.net (Stan Scalsky) Subject: Digital Signals FAQ v3.0 released Message-ID: Date: 17 Feb 1996 21:48:04 GMT Distribution: world For those of you interested in digital signals and shortwave utilities, please check out the new Digital Signals FAQ V3.0. It is available for ftp/http from: ftp://ftp.leonardo.net/berri/wun/archive/files/misc/digfaq30.zip http://leonardo.net/berri/wun Its a large document, approximately 150K, so I will forego posting the whole document. The document details most known digital signalling systems found to date in the shortwave spectrum, along with system parameters, decoder man- ufacturers and references and has been greatly enhanced since V2.0. Well worth a look if you are a beginner or expert. Questions, comments or requests can be directed my way. Stan Scalsky sscalsk@atc.ameritel.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:45 1996 From: kwick@mitre.org (Ken Wickwire) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: GTOR KAMsters: help us with thruput tests Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 20:02:36 -0300 Message-ID: References: <4fmeuq$cqn@csu-b.csuohio.edu> <3121FF00.A33@csg.mot.com> In article <3121FF00.A33@csg.mot.com>, Paul Moller wrote: > Steve Wolf wrote: > > > > Ken Wickwire (kwick@mitre.org) wrote: > > : Fame, Fortune, Big Science: All Free!: > > : > > : For some months we've been running tests of throughput > > : in the HF TOR and packet modes over NVIS links in New England. > > > > Hi ... > > > > I would be VERY interested in any reports of the KAM+ locking up > > when left unattended in the TOR mode. I had been running MSYS using TOR > > with an upgraded KAM. About three times per week the KAM would be left > > in a locked state. The red LED would be on continuously and nothing > > short of a power down would restore it. In connection with the above-mentioned tests we have done many hundreds of file transfers in amtor, gtor, pactor and packet between about 8 different KAMs. Some were pluses (the one here, for example); others were v7.1 and v8.0 upgrades. I can remember about 4 or 5 lockups among this group of units over the course of about 6 months. In one case a v8.0 KAM upgrade locked with its tones idling back and forth. A hard reset slapped it back to health, where it's stayed. Our own KAM+ locked with one tone lit once; a reset brought relief. A couple of the KAMs we're testing with (one a v8.0; would have to check on the vintage of the other) have locked up sending acks continuously for hours until reset. One was sending amtor acks, one gtor acks. (Those happened to be the modes chosen at the times of the lockups by our test program.) Resets stopped the rot in each case. Have heard that lockups of these types can occur if a busy KAM is not connected to a running computer, which is said to cause buffer overflow. Kantronics may have pointed this out, but I'm not certain of that. In some of the cases we've observed, the computer was on, so this can't explain all failures. Have also experienced some VHF hangups, but they're rare. --KB1JY From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:46 1996 From: doughall@parsifal.nando.net (Doug Hall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HAL P 38 TNC Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 03:35:31 GMT Message-ID: <4fu9j3$jn8@castle.nando.net> References: <4fnmc8$s1u@usc.edu> Reply-To: doughall@nando.net buffingt@scf.usc.edu (Roger J. Buffington) wrote: >I would be very interested in hearing comparisons between the HAL P38 >TNC and other TNCs. The P38 certainly seems like a reasonable deal >for the price. > >My questions include: > >1) How is Clover II in weak signal conditions? >2) What kinds of connectors does the board need to your XCVR? >3) What software is available, and does it have auto-logging? Roger, One clarification: the HAL P38 isn't a TNC, since it doesn't do packet. But it does support RTTY, ASCII, AMTOR, Pactor, and Clover. I've found it to work quite well, and my experience with Clover has been quite positive. I've seen extremely good throughput even in very poor conditions. The P38 uses RCA phono jacks for connection to your rig, and is easy to wire up and get running. You need a 16 bit slot in a 286 or higher PC compatible computer. As far as software goes, there are Windows programs available (Express and Ragchew) and at least Express offers logging. On the DOS side, I know of several, including the P38 software that comes with the board (no logging), and XPPCI from KF7XP which does handle logging. For RTTY contesters, WF1B's RTTY contesting program supports the P38. Hope this helps some. 73, Doug Hall, KF4KL From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Message-ID: <262@yebbs.com> Reply-To: samir_khayat@yebbs.com (SAMIR KHAYAT) From: samir_khayat@yebbs.com (SAMIR KHAYAT) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT Subject: HAMCOM LATEST VERSION ?? Hi, Does anyone knows what is the Latest version of HAMCOM program,and what are the new features it includes ? I have the Ver.2.1 and I built the Modem (actually the Comporator) and use it on RTTY but the performance was not very good ,I could only detect the Strong signals.On the other Hand the modem is working fine with the JVFAX program for SSTV (Great program !!!). Any Ideas about how to improve the RTTY reception with the HAMCOM ?? Best 73's Samir ( OD5SK / KC5RYL ) PACKET: OD5SK@7Z2YB.JED.SAU.MDLE OD5SK@OD5RAK.LBN.MDLE ... °±²Û CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK Û²°± ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:48 1996 From: wb8ypo@harborside.com (Chris ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: help 7plus on fbb Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:37:28 Message-ID: Hi the name is Chris and I am running F6fbb as a PBBS here. I just got the 7plus files to forward to a file but can get them to decode when all the 7plus files are there. the sorting file I am using is pick7 which looks for 7plus files and works very well. Its then that I have the problem in decodeing the files in that DIR, thanks 73 Chris wb8ypo@harborside.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:49 1996 From: les@rfx.rfx.com (Les Dittert) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: help: DGPS demodulator , MSK Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:04:28 -0800 Message-ID: I am considering making a differential signal decoder for GPS. The US coast guard transmits a correction signal at about 300 Khz and the correction data is MSK modulated on it at 100 baud. I believe the data once recovered has some simple error correction and is then fed to the Differential ready GPS through RS232. Considering the slow speed , is there an easy MSK demod circuit around? Maybe using an AtoD converter and singal processing it ? After all , it's only 100 baud.... Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA. les@rfx.rfx.com http://www.rfx.com/folks/les "Question MTV" From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:50 1996 From: Trash Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: High speed trunking Date: 19 Feb 1996 07:22:55 GMT Message-ID: <4g98gf$798@kettle.magna.com.au> References: To: jangus@netcom.com I'd be interested in the application side too. I already have similar surplus equipment waiting to be used. cya de Ash VK2XSO From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:52 1996 From: Lapo Pieri Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: homebuilt TNC ? Date: 15 Feb 1996 09:12:30 GMT Message-ID: <4futdu$dds@serra.unipi.it> References: <4fb0r3$aqh@server2.rz.uni-leipzig.de> <311E5B78.310B@Compuserve.com> Dietrich Morgenstern <76050.1341@Compuserve.com> wrote: >Gerd Roethig wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> >> I wanted to homebrew a TNC for Packet Radio, based on the Z80 CPU. >> >> Are there any schematic diagrams for that? >> >> Also, I need the Firmware source codes. >> >> Any help will be greatly appreciated! >> >> Gerd >> >> P.S.: I am interested in information about the TNC3, too... >Gerd: >bei TAPR in Tucson bekommen Sie das Circuit Board fuer den TNC2 mit >allen UNterlagen und Schaltbild. ROM mit Software ebenfalls dort. > >73 Dietrich DJ1VA at OE2XOM And why don't try with an SCC ? TNC sound me too old. Try to look at ftp.funet.fi:/pub/hamradio/packet/scc 73 de Lapo IK5NAX ---------- Lapo Pieri icesb@iroe.fi.cnr.it (ik5nax@iw5afk.itos.ita.eu) IROE-CNR: Institute for Research on Electromagnetic Waves of the National Council of Research (T. +39 55 4235 276) Home: via A. dei Corbizi 9 I-50127 FIRENZE ITALY (T. +39 55 410209) From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:54 1996 From: aa5mt@gate.kc5aug.ampr.ORG Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HTX-202 and MFJ Date: 15 Feb 96 05:13:35 GMT Message-ID: <54852@gate.kc5aug.ampr.org> Reply-To: 44.42.200.20@gate.kc5aug.ampr.org HOOKUP FOR RADIO SHACK HTX-202 TO MFJ TNCS This document is for customers of MFJ who are having problems getting their system connected and operational. 1. MFJ-1270/1271 tnc with no internal network: All the components must be assembled into the hookup cable between the tnc and radio. The HT requires a mono plug on both of its' jacks, however, a few people have reported that their HT would operate with a stereo plug. There may be two hookups over the years that the radio has been out. The MFJ hookup cable will not work with the 1270 and 1271 because the connection network is missing from inside the tnc. Locate the two parts of the cable and note which color wire goes to which part of each plug. There should be a cable for the radio with 2 plugs on it, and a 5 pin DIN plug for the tnc, both with a loose cable attached, to be spliced together. First, on the tnc cable, locate pin 4 on the DIN connector. The MFJ color is yellow for the receive audio line. It should be connected to the tip of the large radio plug. Also connect pin 2 of the tnc to the ground sleeve. The ground usually is common to the dual ht connector, but you may want to split it for separate ht plugs. Next, for the transmit plug, connect a 2.2k resistor to pin 3 of the tnc, and a .01 capacitor to pin 1 of the tnc. Connect the capacitor and resistor together on the radio side, and connect it to the tip of the small radio connector. Connect the ground to the sleeve of the small plug. 2. MFJ-1270B/1274: This model is much easier to connect, since it has the RC network built into it. Connect pin 1 of the tnc to the tip of the small plug, and pin 2 of the tnc to the sleeve. Connect pin 4 of the tnc to the tip of the large plug on the radio. Only three wires are needed for the hookup - transmit, receive, and ground. Inside the tnc next to the radio jack is R107. You will need to change it to a 2.2k ohm value. The original value was 47k, and later it was 4.7k. Next, locate a small white rectangle off of one end of R107. The two solder pads inside the rectangle make up jmp K and need to be soldered together, or connected in some other fashion. This ties the PTT and mic audio together(AC and DC). 3. MFJ-1270C/1276/1278/1278B: These models have the same cable hookup as the 1270B/1274. The internal components have different locations and numbers on the resistor. All of these use jumper L instead of jumper K. The 1278/ 1278B uses both jumper K and L, depending on the radio port used. More information on locations are in the chapter on radio hookup, page 21 in the 1270C/1276, and chapter 3 in the 1278/1278B manuals. Special Note: In many cases this arrangement will work just fine. Through feedback from customers, the value of the resistor can be of a different value from radio to radio. The values seem to be from about 500 ohms to around 5000 ohms. I recommend using a 5000 ohm potentiometer for the initial installation, an adjust it for the best performance. When the value is too low, the radio will key all the time, and when too high, it won't key at all. A balance point is somewhere between. Remove the pot and measure it, and replace it with the closest standard value for permanent operation. AA5MT 1 TX audio--------- .01 microfarad---------------------small tip 4 RX audio-------------------------------Large tip 2 Ground----------------------------------both sleeves 5 Squelch --not used 3 PTT----------------2.2k ohm--------------------------small tip FYI IBCNU Tom From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:55 1996 From: ldunn@rainbow.rmii.com (Larry Dunn) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Interest in ARES/RACES newsgroup? Date: 18 Feb 1996 18:51:32 GMT Message-ID: <4g7sfk$jfm@natasha.rmii.com> References: <4ehqbt$o03@olympus.net> <4fs19s$nui@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Dave Whitlock (n7fzy@netcom.com) wrote: : RICKCRIDER (rickcrider@aol.com) wrote: : : In response to the ARES/RACES newsgroup, I would support such a maneuver : : if others would. I would support this group also. The idea of expanding beyond just RACES/ARES is a good one, since the served agencies (SAR, CAP, ARC, Salvation Army) frequently work very closely with the amateur radio groups, and often have ARES/RACES people in their groups also. Larry Dunn / N9HSW El Paso County, CO RACES Officer Dist 14 CO ARES AEC -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:56 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: internet forwarding poll Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 01:58:16 GMT Message-ID: <4g8i1t$6rc@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> References: <4fj9q4$cf4_004@port14.greenapple.com> <4fl6b1$c24@tuegate.tue.nl> <4flvio$f47@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4fomnv$pvm@usenet.pa.dec.com> Rob The opinions of some do not sit well with others. What one person deems to be offensive maybe humorous to another. There is no standard employed here and it is too much open to interpretation. If you get idiots that want to sue you for propogation of messages that they deem to be unsavourey, you need to go and visit them in the middle of the night !! My BBS only filters out VERY offensive words which I'm sure are offensive internationally !!! Otherwise I import/export and do NOT play god !!! And I do NOT read other peoples private mail is it does NOTHING for me !!!!! rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) wrote: >In <4fomnv$pvm@usenet.pa.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com (Pete..) writes: >>The beauty of internet forwarding is that anybody can do it. The >>current forwarding paths are controlled by some people that like to >>excercise their "given right"to kill mail.. >>If they were as "pure"as they would like us to believe, there would be >>absolutely NO PROBLEMS !!! >Problems in mail forwarding and killing of messages should not be >solved by cutting around it, but by reviewing and discussing the >reasons for it. >Usually you will find that the content of the messages is not at all >relating to amateur radio, and is illegal to transfer in the country >where your intermediate system resides. >There is no such thing as a "right to send whatever you like via >the amateur BBS system". This should be understood by the users of >the system. >Rob >-- >+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ >| Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | >| AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | >+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:57 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: "Tim R. Havens" Subject: IPIP Gateway? Help needed. Message-ID: <312B17DD.7C84B144@nhnfe.uscc.com> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:02:21 -0500 A few years ago I was going to setup a ax.25 gateway from the Internet. I obtained some info from ucsd.edu, and was working on it, however, I got caught up with other things, and was unable to complete the project. I have relocated since then, and am now trying to find some data on what is being done today. Can anyone point me towards the coordinating body, and data on IPIP, or whatever gateway process is being used these days.? My email is: thavens@nhnfe.uscc.com Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:58 1996 From: Ian Brothwell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder? Date: 19 Feb 1996 13:40:35 GMT Message-ID: <4g9ukj$58q@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4fr86i$ciq@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4g0uug$d77@wilde.oit.umass.edu> <312513ab.302356201@news1.mnsinc.com> Hoka software in Holland *might* be able to offer something suitable. They do decoding software that handles a great many modes but I don't have a list in front of me at present. I don't know if they are represented in the USA. 73, Ian G4EAN (Wx is cold and snowy in Nottingham, central England) From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 15:59:59 1996 From: jsmith@mnsinc.com (Jack R. Smith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder? Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 23:33:45 GMT Message-ID: <312513ab.302356201@news1.mnsinc.com> References: <4fr86i$ciq@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4g0uug$d77@wilde.oit.umass.edu> > >>type packet, as well as decode other data transmissions, such as pagers, >>both digital and alphanumeric, DTMF tones, and other various data > For the receive-only listener, check the M-8000, M-4000 and M-1200 decoders offered by Universal Radio, Inc. Each includes some of the common paging formats in addition to RTTY, AMTOR, etc. Certain of these decoders also include DTMF and AACARS. The price ranges are from $1350 down to $400. Universal can be reached at (614) 866-4267 (Columbus, Ohio). Jack Smith K8ZOA Jack Smith jsmith @mnsinc.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:00 1996 From: dmd@wilde.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M Drucker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is there an all purpose TNC/Decoder? Date: 15 Feb 1996 22:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4g0uug$d77@wilde.oit.umass.edu> References: <4fr86i$ciq@newsbf02.news.aol.com> [crossposted to r.r.a.digital.m] >type packet, as well as decode other data transmissions, such as pagers, >both digital and alphanumeric, DTMF tones, and other various data I haven't seen anything that did pagers, but if you're interested in a wide variety of signals (i.e., not just packet and sstv/fax/rtty/amtor etc), you might be best off with a DSP rig such as AEA's DSP-2232 (model number?)... Could someone who knows about such things continue on this point? Have people written "interesting" modes for the AEA DSP rig? -- [ Daniel Drucker / dmd@student.umass.edu / N2SXX ] you can stand there and agonize/till your agony's your heaviest load (Emily Saliers) From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:02 1996 From: jpll@vectorbd.vivanet.com (Jim Lill) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS lite ? Date: 17 Feb 1996 13:54:30 GMT Message-ID: <4g4mmm$l1h@vectorbd.vectorbd.com> References: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> <4frnkg$brt@news.halcyon.com> Gary P. Fiber (gfiber@halcyon.com) wrote: : You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version. In the JNOS make file : one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for. The 8088 is : one choice. Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the : EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT. I have : seen 1.08 run on an XT. PKLITE makes the space required to store the EXE smaller, but would make no difference run-time/CPU wise. If I knew what options needed, I could compile an EXE for him. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Lill jpll@vectorbd.com wa2zkd@wb2psi.#wny.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:03 1996 From: jpryan@westnet.com (James P. Ryan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS lite ? Date: 15 Feb 1996 13:59:31 GMT Message-ID: <4fve83$ii6@mycroft.westnet.com> References: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> PKlite will do nothing for your memory problem. It will just "squash" the binary smaller. It will also increase loading time. Look for a version compiled for the 8088. n2iko >>> In message <4frnkg$brt@news.halcyon.com> - "Gary P. Fiber" writes: :> :>You want to have a look for a 8088 compiled version. In the JNOS make file :>one has a choice of which processor to compile the nos for. The 8088 is :>one choice. Also there is a program called PKLITE which will compress the :>EXE file when the compile is finished, so it might run on your XT. I have :>seen 1.08 run on an XT. :> :>Gary :> From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ricky Scott) Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Message-ID: References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> <1996Feb15.135338.9060@walter.cray.com> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 16:23:18 GMT James W. Lynch (jwl@cray.com) wrote: : I have to put in my 2 cents worth. I have used the KAM+ and still : prefer my PK-232. I think it receives weak signals better. The manual Thats strange ... I used both and found the KAM much better at weak signal work ... but thats just an opinion. : for the PK-232 is far superior. In fact I think you could say : there isn't a manual for the KAM. Just a few scraps of paper with : little intelligence written on them. No MANUAL ... I have to disagree there ... I have 3 full sized manuals that go with the KAM of about 100 pages each. One for commands, one for installation/hook-up and one for general information. Thats 300 pages worth. What does the 232 come with an encyclopedia.. : that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter, : but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM : will be frustrating. What do you mean by interface, I can access the full command set of the KAM and with the manuals can change any parameter I want. Plus if I want to jump over to VHF and check on the DX net real quick I dont have to switch a switch and change commands .... So I dont know what interfacing with your hard ware is. Also I use a simple term program that doesnt do anything and work all bands/modes with my KAM. Its not frustrating at all. -- Ricky J. Scott | The comments expressed here in do not Ship Side Support | reflect the views of my company or my 767 Electrical Manuf. Eng. | supervisor. In fact they wish I would kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | not express my opinions. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:06 1996 From: 73700.12@compuserve.com (Jim Nuytens) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: 17 Feb 1996 19:14:52 GMT Message-ID: <4g59fc$27o@dub-news-svc-1.compuserve.com> References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> In message <1996Feb15.135338.9060@walter.cray.com> - jwl@cray.com (James W. Lynch) writes: :> :>Ralph Phelps (rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com) wrote: :>: I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. :>: Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not :>: considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, :>: dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. :> :> :>: 73, :>: Ralph :>: WA9JST :> :>I have to put in my 2 cents worth. I have used the KAM+ and still :>prefer my PK-232. I think it receives weak signals better. The manual :>for the PK-232 is far superior. In fact I think you could say :>there isn't a manual for the KAM. Just a few scraps of paper with :>little intelligence written on them. If you will be running software :>that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter, :>but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM :>will be frustrating. :> :>Jim. Well, to put it quite bluntly, you must have had a bad day. I can't imagine ANYONE who can't get a KAM+ working on the first try. I've used the original KAM and the KAM+ for years and I had NO problems with either of them. The 232, however, was a lesson in frustration on the 2 occasions that I've attempted to get them working for fellow hams. They simply don't lend themselves to working with generic comm programs, while I've used modem comm programs of many sorts to interface with a KAM+. I also don't agree with your comments about manuals. I had no problem understanding anything in a Kantronics manual. Fairly concise and to the point. Plenty of intelligence for me, but your mileage certainly seems to have varied. Given a choice, I'd still pick the KAM over the 232 any day. Full dual port functionality for the same (if not lower) price of a 232. I'm much more interested in being able to switch radios/ports at the slightest whim, right from the keyboard with just a couple of strokes. Couple that with the built-in node function (which, the last time I've heard the 232 still doesn't have) that lets stations cross-band from HF to VHF or VHF to HF, and you have a very nice TNC that proves more functionality (especially from a packet standpoint) and versatility , IMHO, than a 232. Just an opinion from a satisfied KAM owner. Jim Nuytens N3JJA/Delaware Email: V.P., Delaware Repeater Association 73700.12 @ compuserve.com Seitz Technical Products Jim @ Seitz.com Delaware Ham Shack BBS 302-798-2002 All opinions stated above are my own, which probably accounts for their unpopularity. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:07 1996 From: John Wilcox/NS1Z Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: 19 Feb 1996 00:18:42 GMT Message-ID: <4g8fl3$1li@service-2.agate.net> References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> <1996Feb15.135338.9060@walter.cray.com> To: jwl@cray.com Well, I have had the PK-232, the DSP-2232 and now have a KAM+ (thanks BB!). They all work well, for the average guy. You get into the hard core contest type and many that I have spoken with prefer the PK-232. The software probably makes more difference than the MMU to most users. Get good software and there is little difference in them. ymmv, of course! -- John Wilcox / NS1Z INTERNET :204.117.6.48 ns1z@agate.net Work :5018901@mcimail.com TCP/IP :44.118.6.4 ns1z@ns1z.ampr.org AX-25 :ns1z@kb1bsc.fn44rn.me.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:08 1996 From: mead@tetonrtp.dg.com (Glenn Mead) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: 19 Feb 1996 15:07:32 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ga3nk$pbf@dg-rtp.dg.com> References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> In article , moana@teleport.c om (Charles Vollum) writes: |> In article <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com>, rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com wrote: |> |> > I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. |> > Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not |> > considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, |> > dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. |> |> I own both, and both are good units. On my boat, I prefer the Kam+ due to |> small size and better Mac software. All of my internet email from the |> South Pacific was handled via the Kam over AMTOR and PACTOR. I also like |> playing with GTOR, which really smokes. |> |> If I could have just one unit, I think it would be the Kam Plus. |> |> YMMV! |> |> Charles |> n7bpt KAM+ gets my vote also. I have owned both. In addition to the reasons stated above, the KAM+ has enough audio drive to allow me to use the 9600 baud packet jack on the back of my radio and not have to mess with the mic cord. It also allows you to operate with an open squelch by setting CD to 'software'. I have been able to pick up weaker signals this way than when using squelch control. Glenn ke4zea From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:09 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: jwl@cray.com (James W. Lynch) Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Message-ID: <1996Feb15.135338.9060@walter.cray.com> Reply-To: jwl@cray.com References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> Date: 15 Feb 96 13:53:38 CST Ralph Phelps (rphelps@asic.sc.ti.com) wrote: : I'm considering buying either KAM+ or the latest PK-232. : Any comments pro or con? To keep the cost down, I'm not : considering the new DSP controllers. I just want a good, : dependable CW/RTTY/AMTOR unit. : 73, : Ralph : WA9JST I have to put in my 2 cents worth. I have used the KAM+ and still prefer my PK-232. I think it receives weak signals better. The manual for the PK-232 is far superior. In fact I think you could say there isn't a manual for the KAM. Just a few scraps of paper with little intelligence written on them. If you will be running software that does all of your thinking for you, then that doesn't matter, but if you would like to interface with your hardware, buying a KAM will be frustrating. Jim. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst, Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Southeast District, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: jwl@cray.com Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269 From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:11 1996 From: Ian Brothwell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: 19 Feb 1996 13:38:30 GMT Message-ID: <4g9ugm$56l@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> <1996Feb15.135338.9060@walter.cray.com> The comments that I've received over here in the UK is that the KAM is better at HF (non-packet) modes and the PK-232 is better at packet. Remember that the PK-232 can't operate both ports at once (and I understand that AEA's DSP-2232 was supposed to have this simultaneous operation built-in but actually got it sometime after launch, according to info I've received her e in G-land) whereas the Kam can do this because it has two modems within it. This difference in modem design might also mean that the Kam can operate a tru e 170Hz shift for RTTY whereas the PK-232 might (might - I can't remember this one 100%) use a 200Hz shift. Okay, both shifts should work but I'd personally prefer to use as close to 170Hz as I can get. My Kam is c1987 but the manuals were certainly more than just scraps of paper; I have found them to be excellent guides to both data comms and the Kam itself . I wonder if the person who made the "scraps of paper" comment bought second-hand and didn't receive the full manual set? One other factor in favour of the Kam is that most are user-upgradable simply by replacing the EPROM. The KamPlus can partially be implemented in the old Ka m though there are limitations on RAM that prevent full implementation. I bought a Kam second-hand; I've also had a PK-232 for review and you'd certainly notice a difference in size - the PK-232 is at least twice as big as the Kam. I've heard of fellow UK hams trading in PK-232s for Kams but I've not heard of anyone going the other way. CI can't comment about the PK-900 because I've not used one - have you considered what that has to offer? 73 from a snowy-white Nottingham in central England. Ian, G4EAN From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: jwl@cray.com (James W. Lynch) Subject: Re: KAMPlus TNC Goes haywire! Message-ID: <1996Feb15.134551.8938@walter.cray.com> Reply-To: jwl@cray.com References: <4fpbki$o48@newnews.iafrica.com> Date: 15 Feb 96 13:45:51 CST Marinus Willemstijn (willemma@telkom19.telkom.co.za) wrote: : Thanks for reading... : Can anyone please help with the following problem. I have a : KamPlus TNC which I bought secondhand. It works fine, but when : I switch it off and on again it goes in to some kind of mode : where it wont accept any commands from Winpack. : I then have to use a hard reset to reset the TNC and then : change all parameters again, etc, etc. : Its becoming quite a drag because I now have to leave it on : 24hrs a day. : Is the internal battery maybe at fault - but why doesn't it : reset to defaults when switched on again? : Please help. : Marinus : ZS6MAW : willemma@telkom19.telkom.co.za I don't know anything about Winpack, but I do know that the KamPlus has a host mode. Is it possible that Winpack is talking to the Kam in host mode and when you turn it off and on, it drops out of host mode into command mode??? Just a possible reason. After you turn it back on, drop out of Winpack and bring up a terminal emulator and see if it is talking to you that way. Jim. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst, Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Southeast District, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: jwl@cray.com Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269 From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:13 1996 From: AG8Y@aol.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Kantronics KPC-9612 problem or not? Date: 16 Feb 96 01:53:34 GMT Message-ID: <960215205334_223312350@emout04.mail.aol.com> Any of your KPC-9612 owners out there having problems with version 6.0 software?? Seems that two individuals here locally had quite a few messages pass through thier personal mailboxes. The mailbox does a RENUMBER on all the messages, restarting back with number 1,2,3, .... At the same time they experienced strange problems with certain characters not working. Turned out that the REDISPLAY was changed from $12 (ctl R) to $4C (L) for one guy, the other's was changed to $31 (1). Changing it back to the default value solved the trouble. If you have this problem or have heard of it, please send me a reply. Thanks. Internet :ag8y@aol.com BBS AX25 :ag8y@w8blv.#day.oh.usa.noam QTH :Middletown, Ohio 73 Ernie From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:15 1996 From: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Date: 14 Feb 96 10:33:00 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Landline BBS and TNC Door Message-ID: <11b_9602150133@woodybbs.com> >>Where can I find a program that I can use with my Landline BBS so that >>users can access my TNC and gate over to packet on 2 meters. ARPD124.ZIP is available on ATTENTION to Details BBS 909-681-6221. Best one available! PLEASE do not let your Users use your station as a control point without proper authorization/protection! Here's my TNC ACCESS CONTRACT: ATTENTION to Details BBS 5085 Trail Canyon Drive Mira Loma, CA 91752-1685 Voice - 909-681-6210 BBS - 909-681-6210 --------------------------------------------------------------------- TNC Packet Access Agreement --------------------------------------------------------------------- This following Rules and Regulations must be agreed to before access to the TNC Door will be granted. You will be required to send a copy of this Agreement - as well as a copy of your Ham License - to ATD BBS. This may outwardly seem unreasonable, but there are legal rami- fications involved, and I'd rather not have to respond to any FCC complaints that have my name on them . Here we go: 1. You agree to follow all Part 97 regulations. 2. You agree to relinquish the TNC whenever requested by the Sysop. 3. You agree to report any and all abnormalities while using the TNC - a Message to the SYSOP will suffice. 4. You agree NOT to change your Callsign - using TNC commands - while using the TNC Door. 5. You agree to adhere to any rule changes made in the future concerning the operation of the TNC Door on ATD BBS. I promise to announce any changes that affect operation of the TNC Door as soon as possible, via either the [N]ewsletter or via private EMail to you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you agree to the above, then print out this entire textfile, sign below, and and return with a copy of your Amateur Radio License. You will then be granted Amateur Radio Operator (HAM) access. Signed _______________________________ Date ___________________________ Callsign______________________________ License Class___________________ Mail to: ATTENTION to Details BBS TNC Access 5085 Trail Canyon Drive Mira Loma, CA 91752-1685 clint.bradford@atdbbs.com --- * TLX v4.00 * ATTENTION to Details AMATEUR RADIO BBS - 909/681-6221 * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221 -- |Fidonet: Clint Bradford 1:2619/228 |Internet: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:16 1996 From: dkaylor@hayburn.com (Dave Kaylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LOGGING SOFTWARE Date: Tue, 13 Feb 1996 13:40:23 GMT Message-ID: <312092e6.5188344@news.hayburn.com> References: On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 03:11:22 GMT, dasosnin@emi.net (David Sosnin) wrote: > > >Can anyone tell me some GOOD logging software that I can use for my >Ham Radio Log? I can use either Windows based or DOS based. If you >could tell me where to find it and a little bit about it would be >great. > >Thanks > >N4TTN > I use a program called Log-EQF it is written by a gentleman in PA. It is a excellant program, it will run on any dos based computer and runs fine under windows and windows 95. It works with all the computer based callbooks and has 2 user defined fields and a notepad for each contact. It works with most all computer controlled radios. It has a split screen packet window and also works with packet cluster software. It has several contests built into it and you can define your own if you like. It is a great program and the registration is only $30 and he is very helpful if you have any problems. It is on most of the shareware CD's like bucmaster and QRZ. You can contact him at 412-457-2584. Hope this helps. 73 de Dave KB8EAP. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:17 1996 From: ve3vlf@achilles.net (Ed LeBlanc) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for: FAX S/W for PK232MBX Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 04:15:55 GMT Message-ID: <4g3knb$5gl@centaur.achilles.net> Does any one know of a good FAX software program to run on the PK232MBX? Is there a copy available at an FTP site? Thanks. 73, Ed ve3vlf@achilles.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:18 1996 From: wcovexip@moose.ptialaska.net (Bruce & Debora Gordon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MacRatt III v 1.0a is out! Date: 18 Feb 1996 21:54:57 GMT Message-ID: <4g877h$85k@news.dgsys.com> References: <4g3gcb$9jo@news.dgsys.com> Well I have good news to report about the software and support of MacRatt III 1.0a. I have exchanged messages with the Kevin, the author, and find him to be very ammenable, and extremely helpful in resolving some of the 2232, and dual port problems in the application. There is a later version of Macratt III, V1.0b which corrects a bug in the dual port implimintation. I have beat up on the 1.0b version now for a few hours and It has been a pleasure to use. The UI (User Interface) has some very interesting, and cool features that will make those folks that have the Mailbox and Gateway modes enabled, very happy. There is a lot more to the application than first meets the eye, and I still haven't fooled around with the color stuff yet. It seems that I may have been a little hasty in some of the comments in the earlier post, but only time will tell if AEA can come up with the support that their customers deserve. Kevin sure has done a bangup job of supporting the application for me and I wish him great success in any further enhancements for MacRatt III. Bruce AL7AQ Bruce Gordon * Debora Gordon R.N. Bruce's Trading Post P.O. Box EXI Excursion Inlet South Juneau, Alaska 99850 Excursion Inlet, Alaska 99850 University of Alaska Remote Weather Data Collection Site fnbeg@aurora.alaska.edu AL7AQ@KL7HFI * KL7WJ@KL7HFI wcovexip@ptialaska.net Wards Cove Packing Co. **** Have bandwidth and connection Will communicate **** From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:19 1996 From: dmd@wilde.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M Drucker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MFJ 1278 to Alinco DJ-F1T wiring? Date: 18 Feb 1996 19:01:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4g8elj$73j@wilde.oit.umass.edu> I need information on how to wire a MFJ 1278 TNC to the Alinco DJ-F1T HT. Thank you. -- [ Daniel Drucker / dmd@student.umass.edu / N2SXX ] Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:20 1996 From: bsager@interserf.NET (Ben Sager) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Motorola 9600 Mods Needed Date: 16 Feb 96 15:24:39 GMT Message-ID: <199602161530.KAA09449@ns.interserf.net> Hello, I don't know if I am posting this to the right group or not and apologize up front if I offend anyone for a wrong posting. We are having great difficulty finding a source containing the mods for various Motorola radios to make them 9600 baud packet capable, if possible, otherwise 1200 baud.. I am sure the problem is that I am searching in the wrong spots. We have access to some Radius, Maxtrac, Micor, (Motrac vhf base), Mitrek mobile units.. There are some UHF and some VHF units and all are ready for hamband operation. We are trying to build a backbone network for the statewide VA Digital Emergency Network (VDEN). All of the units are working but we need to interface the tnc's to them correctly. Does anyone know where I can find these Motorola mods or a good source of such information?? I can supply model numbers if needed. The older Motrac vhf pager base is model B93MPY-1100BT-SP11 with a CC3064 xmitter and may be too old for anything other than 1200 baud. Any thoughts, suggestions will be appreciated! Regards, Ben Sager KC4ASF.VA (For the VDEN Steering Committee) KC4ASF@KC4ASF.VA bsager@interserf.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:21 1996 From: Leon Heller Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Newby ??? Date: Sat, 17 Feb 96 20:45:50 GMT Message-ID: <824589950snz@lfheller.demon.co.uk> References: <4g4uum$7mv@news.ios.com> Reply-To: Leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk In article <4g4uum$7mv@news.ios.com> joe@soho.ios.com "Kent Robotii" writes: > I want to set up packet radio on my computer, I know > you need a tnc, transmiter, and software, right now > I have a 28.8 generic hayes modem, does the tnc replace > this, or do you put it in, a unused expansion slot, on > the motherboard. > I also have a scanner, is this of any use, of course > it only receives. > What is the most popular tnc, where, how much, new, used? > What kind of transmiter do I need, where, how much, new, used? > I'm using linux & os/2 > Please respond with any helpfull suggestions, by > email or post > Thanx in advance. The first thing you need to get is an amateur radio licence, although you could monitor the packets other people are sending with just your scanner, a TNC, and some ordinary comms software running on your computer. The TNC includes a modem chip, and a microprocessor, and connects to the computer via a serial port, just like an ordinary external modem. The TNC is also connected to the microphone input and speaker output of the transceiver, with another connection to the PTT input, so that the TNC can switch the transceiver between transmit and receive. For ordinary packet this is all you need. For TCP/IP, you need special software running on your PC, similar to that used for accessing the Internet. A version is available for Linux. You can manage with just a modem chip, and a few other components, with software performing all the other functions of the TNC running on a PC. This is how the Baycom packet system works. It is also possible to use a DSP-based sound card (like the Cardinal), with software running on the DSP and the PC, for 1200 baud and 9600 baud packet. A small hardware mod. is required for the PTT connection. 73, Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM | "Do not adjust your mind, there is E-mail leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk | a fault in reality": on a wall Phone: +44 (0)1734 471424 | many years ago in Oxford. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:22 1996 From: joe@soho.ios.com (Kent Robotii) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Newby ??? Date: 17 Feb 1996 16:15:18 GMT Message-ID: <4g4uum$7mv@news.ios.com> I want to set up packet radio on my computer, I know you need a tnc, transmiter, and software, right now I have a 28.8 generic hayes modem, does the tnc replace this, or do you put it in, a unused expansion slot, on the motherboard. I also have a scanner, is this of any use, of course it only receives. What is the most popular tnc, where, how much, new, used? What kind of transmiter do I need, where, how much, new, used? I'm using linux & os/2 Please respond with any helpfull suggestions, by email or post Thanx in advance. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: cv282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mistie Mullarkey) Subject: NNTP Message-ID: Reply-To: cv282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mistie Mullarkey) Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 01:27:24 GMT Hello, I'm looking for anyone who can help me set-up the Network News feature in JNOS and where I can find a copy of JNOS with NNTP built-in. Thanks -- ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ» º cv282@freeNET.carleton.CA º º purdon@ott.ve2sux.ampr.org º ÈÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍͼ From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:24 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: packet on voice repeaters Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Message-ID: References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:29:24 GMT In rayc@tcd.net (Ray D. Congdon) writes: >dramatic and worked quite well. The voice users were totally unaware of the data >that was being sent on the same system. Listening to the system "in the clea r" was >interesting. Data was sent at a leisurly rate until a voice conversation was >intitiated. At that point the data of course halted and politely waited for an >open spot... when that occured, between voice transmissions, the data packets were >furiously exchanged! How well this works is very dependent on the technology in use at the user's stations. When they use traditional TNC firmware or well-working SCC card drivers, it will probably work nicely because the programs are patiently waiting when there is continuous carrier detect. As long as the voice users are active, the packet users are effectively in a state of suspended animation. When they use something KISS-based, or software in which the AX.25 layer is unaware of the DCD state (like the SCC driver in xNOS), it will be disastrous. The layer-2 (or higher) software will repeat each packet as determined by the timeout timer(s), but these repeats will only be queued in the TNC or the driver. As soon as the channel becomes clear, all these queued packets are sent, and you will see many duplicated packets on the channel. The handling of this condition is often not optimal, and with some very buggy software it can even result in a pathetic loop where each packet is sent 2 or more times, and REJ responses are sent every time. It is a pity to see that a system that worked well when first designed, was later corrupted by the not-so-well-thought-out design of the KISS TNC, and the DCD-unaware level2/level1 interface that resulted out of that. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:26 1996 From: gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232 Date: 14 Feb 1996 23:03:00 GMT Message-ID: <4ftpn4$mis@news.sas.ab.ca> I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR. Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program? Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES. -- gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:27 1996 From: arden@teleport.com (Arden Eby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PK232 and WeFax? Help. Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 04:24:13 GMT Message-ID: <4g10ui$r86@maureen.teleport.com> I have an AEA PK232 that I know does WeFax since I was able to get it working on my (old) Macintosh. Now I'm running a "wintel" machine under Win95. I like most things about the new machine but I can't seem to find a fax program that interfaces with the PK232. I have found plenty of PD/shareware fax programs but all of them seem to require me to buid a specific interface. This seems like it should be unnecessary since the PK232 has a fax mode. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. 73 de Arden KI7FG ****************************************************************************** Arden Eby Internet: arden@teleport.com Packet Radio: KI7FG@KA7AGH.OR.USA.NA Homepage (Eby's Cyberscroll) http://www.teleport.com/~arden/ ****************************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:28 1996 From: warych@neca.com (WR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: ProsKan SSTV pgm shareware Date: 21 Feb 1996 03:06:00 GMT Message-ID: <4ge26o$fga@taurus.neca.com> The latest shareware version of ProsKan SSTV is always available at http://www.mindport.net/~jamie try it out. From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:29 1996 From: joopv@etprs.seas.ucla.edu () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud Date: 14 Feb 1996 22:59:34 GMT Message-ID: <4ftpgm$ets@tuegate.tue.nl> References: <4fr94n$mke@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Francisco Costa (fcosta@mail.telepac.pt) wrote: > My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version). > He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess. > Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out! > All cables, connectors and tnc are OK. > The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work! > It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem. I have done some testing with a TM455 and 9k6 packet. My conclusion is that it works perfect. Treu FM (no PLL modulation) and fast turnaround times. What do you mean by "no data is send out" ? Does the transmitter not key up at all, or is there no modulation on the carrier ? Kenwood has a strange way of naming the pins on the data connector. PKS (packet standby) means PTT for example. Are you sure the cable is correct? 73 Joop, pe1dna From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:31 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: PSE HELP Kenwood TM-455 + 9600 baud Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Message-ID: References: <4fr94n$mke@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 09:32:46 GMT In <4fr94n$mke@vivaldi.telepac.pt> Francisco Costa wr ites: >Hi >My friend RUI, CT1EIF has a new TM-455E(Europe version). >He tried to connect his 9600 baud tnc to the rig, but without sucess. >Decoding data is 100% ok, but no data is sent out! >All cables, connectors and tnc are OK. >The radio is suposed to be "1200/9600 ready", but it just doesn't work! >It seem other guy's in Europe are complaining about the same problem. >Is it a E version problem??? >Do you know why this happen??? I have never seen such a TRX myself, but when I helped someone else over-the-air I noticed that the input is apparently very insensitive. The other guy had increased the deviation setting on his modem to the maximum, but still had only 1 KHz or so deviation. He had to build a separate audio amp (using an op-amp). Maybe you have a similar problem, and your modem provides even less audio output so you think you have no data output at all? Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:32 1996 From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: re packet on voice repeaters Date: 15 Feb 1996 15:49:36 GMT Message-ID: <4fvkmg$ah2@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <3120af5f.15423719@canberra.dialix.oz.au> In article hg@n2wx.ampr.org writes: >On Tue, 13 Feb 1996 15:34:13 GMT, Robert Walker wrote: > > : In Brian Kantor's posting, he differentiates between a 'digi' and a > : 'digipeater'. Thanks, Brian, I had never thought there might be a > : difference between the two. There isn't. I should have been clearer. 'digi' is an abbreviation for 'digipeater'. They're the same thing. They are NOT the same thing as a realtime repeater that happens to be repeating digital signals such as packet. That's sometimes called a 'digital repeater' but because of the confusion of terms, most people call them packet repeaters (if they call them anything printable, that is.) >In common usage, here in Australia, the > : word 'digi' is used as a contraction of the word 'digipeater' and, > : therefore, the words both mean the same thing(at least here and N.Z.). > >The distinction is news to me as well. Must be a west coast (U.S.) >thing (ducking, running) Naw, just two countries separated by a common language. - Brian From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:33 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (Karl Medcalf (WK5M)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Remote access to PBBS? Date: 16 Feb 1996 13:16:07 GMT Message-ID: <4g202n$b4l@sequoia.idir.net> References: <31238178.4ADD@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil> In article <31238178.4ADD@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil>, roslewskirb96%cs26@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil says... > >Hi, > I'm pretty new to this packet stuff, and have a question. What >I want to do is be able to connect to my home PBBS from elsewhere, to >read my mail, etc. Now, other people can connect to my PBBS just fine, >but when I try to do it, I can't connect. MYCALL is KI7FL and the PBBS >is KI7FL-1. I'm using both a KAM and a KPC-3. I guess maybe it's a >problem with my home station and other station both having the same >call, but how do I fix it? > >Any help is greatly appreciated. > >Russ KI7FL >-- >roslewskirb96%cs26@cadetmail.usafa.af.mil __|__ >PP-ASEL (AOPA #01215297) KI7FL (DM79na) CAP _______(*)_______ >"Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar o/ \o >"This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of >the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." Hello Russ. You're exactly right - it's being caused by both TNCs having the same call. The remote PBBS unit, see a connect from you (KI7FL) and notices that the MYCALL in that TNC IS KI7FL, so the PBBS thinks it's an "internal" connect. It's trying to talk to the serial port, but you're at a remote location. Simply stated, each station on the air at the same time, in the same band, needs a different callsign. I would suggest using KI7FL-2 or some other SSID in your portable station. Don't choose an SSID that conflicts with other functions of your TNC, though. -- 73, Karl Internet: medcalf@idir.net Packet: WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM ***** The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not ***** ***** necessarily reflect those of my employer! ***** From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:34 1996 From: marcwa3ajr@aol.com (MarcWA3AJR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: RTTY/packet Date: 14 Feb 1996 23:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4fud5g$hlj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: marcwa3ajr@aol.com (MarcWA3AJR) All invited to look at the RTTY Loop Home Page, home page of 73 Magazine's RTTY Loop column - now in its 19th year covering radioteletype and digital communication... at... http://www2.ari.net/ajr/rtty/ 73, Marc WA3AJR From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:35 1996 From: lazeraud@sentex.net (Tedd Doda) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Running FBB under OS/2? Date: 20 Feb 1996 11:37:47 GMT Message-ID: <4gcbqb$pf4@granite.sentex.net> Greetings. I'm thinking about taking over the local BBS in the Kitchener, Ontario area and would like some input from anyone running FBB under OS/2. The machine is a 486 2/66 with 16 megs of ram running Warp Connect. Is there comparable software *native* to OS/2? I do have Win/OS2 so Windows software is a possibility as well (although all the software I run is native OS/2 other than TPK). Memory settings would be a great help, as well as any info on running BPQ. Any help would be appriciated. Best 73, Tedd Doda, CET (Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada) packet ve3tjd@va3rwp ******* Running TPK under Warp Connect! e-mail lazeraud@sentex.net** Running the IAK in Warp Connect! [Team OS/2 in Canada] From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: chris@kd3bj.ampr.org (C. T. Nadovich) Subject: Re: SEX: Can J/TNOS for Linux run without a terminal? Message-ID: References: <824075677snz@nikel.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 1996 19:55:43 GMT chris@kd3bj.ampr.org (C. T. Nadovich) writes: >Nidge Jones writes: >>If you are running Tnos under linux then the Tnos FAQ file will tell you >>how to edit your inittab file to start Tnos at boot - and also if need be >>get the kernel to ping tnos every 15 minutes to make sure it hasn't crashed. >>If it has linux it will kill the tnos process and restart it ! >Thanks, I'll check that out. I just did. Sheesh! Didn't anybody take the time to READ my post. The technique given in the FAQ requires redirection to some controlling terminal. I want to run TNOS as a DETACHED process in the background. That means I don't want it associated with a controlling terminal. This has been impossible in the past and still seems to be impossible. And that's a FAQ. -- 73 de KD3BJ SK .. http://www.kd3bj.ampr.org +1 215 257 0635 (voice) +1 215 257 2744 (data/fax) From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:37 1996 From: kavman@gate.net (Joe Burnham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Shareware PACTOR program? Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 11:20:01 GMT Message-ID: <31270ac8.906317@news.gate.net> Is there a shareware PACTOR program (like 'PCTOR' which does AMTOR?) I have BMKMULTY (1991) here which works fine with my AT and CP-1...but I've not heard anything about this software for ywars...and the last time I *did* hear about a PACTOR upgrade, it was something like $75.00...which is a bit steep for me at the moment. 73..... From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:38 1996 From: Paul Bastian Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Soundblaster Cards and WEFAX & SSTV Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:23:14 -0800 Message-ID: <312A0382.6D24@sprynet.com> References: <4gb0f8$s3p@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Feroz Ghouse wrote: > > I have read about being able to use the soundblaster sound cards to decode a nd display > both WEFAX and SSTV. > > How do I set about this? > > I Thank you for all and assistance > 73, > > Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N I know of Two different programs for what you want, there maybe more. There is a program called Weather Man to pick up WEFAX, then there is a program called Color Slow Scan Tv for Blaster, for the SSTV. I have them both. If you would like more info I can give you more details. Paul From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:40 1996 From: gjones@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Greg Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TAPR Announces new Web Page on Amateur Audio News Programs Date: Sun, 18 Feb 96 06:23:27 -0600 Message-ID: <253249.ensmtp@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu> TAPR makes available Amateur Radio News Services on the Internet. Feb 18, 1996 ---- TAPR is proud to announce the creation a new set of web pages that focus on Amateur Radio News Services. This page can be reached from the tapr home page http://www.tapr.org This new page contains audio from Amateur Radio Newsline, the RAIN Report (Radio Amateur Information Network), and Ham Radio and More. All audio is provided by the RealAudio system. RealAudio players are available for Mac, Windows, and UNIX based computers. We are currently only encoding for 14.4Kbps access speeds, to lower the consumption of our hard drive space. We will be looking at doing more 28.8Kbps+ speed access encoding later in the year. These audio pages will be updated in different manners. Newsline is updated each week. The RAIN report is a monthly service. Shows from the national hour of Ham Radio and More are being made available on a 'best of' selection. TAPR hopes that this page will help make these amateur radio news programs more readily available to the amateur community. --- The Ham Radio and More 'Best of' currently includes: * Bob Bruninga, WB4APR, Author of APRS * Greg Jones, WD5IVD, President TAPR * Dan Meredith, N7MRP (Packet, the Internet, and more!) * Phil Karn, KA9Q (TCP/IP and Spread Spectrum) * Dick Daniels, W4PUJ (Phase 3D and AMSAT) * Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD (Packet Radio) * Lew McFadin, W5DID (SAREX Project) * Jack Tiley, N7RWJ (Spread Spectrum Communications) * Lyle Johnson, WA7GXD (History of Packet Radio and TAPR) With more to be added in the coming months! You might note the slight bias towards digital topics :-) --- NOTE: TAPR is currently only supporting 5 audio channels currently. If you get a busy connect, just try again at a later time. VOLUNTEER? We are looking for people who might be interested in setting up a rotation for doing the Newsline encoding. If you think you might like to help record and then encode the weekly Newsline feed for the page, please contact TAPR@TAPR.ORG and let us know. Having a rotation should make it easier to keep this page current. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:41 1996 From: skoenig+@cs.cmu.edu (Sven Koenig) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: using Macs to switch stuff on/off? Date: 15 Feb 1996 03:15:05 GMT Message-ID: <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely, ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that? Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards? Every hint is appreciated... Thanks! Sven From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:42 1996 From: scott@ioinc.tucson.az.us (Scott Forbes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off? Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:33:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> In article <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu>, skoenig+@cs.cmu.edu (Sven Koenig) wrote: > I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices > on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely, > ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that? > > Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards? > > Every hint is appreciated... > Thanks! > Sven Another possibility is the CP-290 X10 interface. It connects between a Mac serial port and the power line to control up to 8 X-10 modules, including relay modules. The software it comes with is pretty dated, but I saw that is still being sold by: http://techmall.com/smarthome/x10compatlist.html -- Scott From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:43 1996 From: paidukas@harris.com (Paul Aidukas KT4DI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 Date: 20 Feb 1996 19:27:41 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gd7bd$1o0@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> References: <4fmdil$6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Reply-To: paidukas@harris.com Keywords: WA8DED In article 6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg, daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) writes: >Hi, > > Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for >the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should >have ie. NORD>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere >although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version. > > Thanks. > >73 de 9V1ZV Daniel > > Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg > 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org I would look on the new QRZ CD Rom disk, Jan '96. I beleive it has this and mo re, including BPQ etc. --... ...-- -.. . Paul KT4DI Weekdays: 407-724-7879 Email: PAidukas@Harris.com Packet: KT4DI @ KT4DI.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:44 1996 From: Roland S Geter PhD Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:58:55 GMT Message-ID: <4g41rv$ica@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4fn47d$j76@www.acay.com.au> To: spiroe@acay.com.au What are you going to do with it? Roland S Geter PhD Internet: roland@mycronet.com Packer: WB6LNA@kc7y.az.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:44 1996 From: Roland S Geter PhD Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,aus.radio.amateur.wicen,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: WTB:5KW AM Transmitter Date: 17 Feb 1996 07:57:37 GMT Message-ID: <4g41pi$ica@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4fn47d$j76@www.acay.com.au> To: spiro,evagelakos What are you going to do with it? Roland S Geter PhD Internet: roland@mycronet.com Packer: WB6LNA@kc7y.az.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:46 1996 From: kipdee@connix.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: 15 Feb 1996 05:28:41 GMT Message-ID: <4fuga9$o32@comet.connix.com> References: <4fqpao$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET> Reply-To: kipdee@connix.com In <4fqpao$bu5@alterdial.UU.NET>, "Stan R. Coleman" write s: >I'm looking for anyone who has more information on the new WX alert >System. It's a system that not only starts Weather Radio's (Like the >ones at Radio Shack), but it transmits FSK signal with County, Weather >Alert, Type of Alert, Duration, etc. information as well. I don't know if this is what your looking for put look at: http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov under wireless weather information network. hope this helps. _\\|//_ {`\0-0/'} *==ooO==(_)==Ooo=============================================* Hector Cintron - N1TKK E-mail - Kipdee@connix.com Conn Skywarn Home Page - http://www.connix.com/~kipdee I'm Hector Cintron from the clan Cintron, "There Can Be Only one" *============================================================* From lwbyppp@epix.net Wed Feb 21 16:00:47 1996 From: chsr Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WX Radio now transmitting FSK Date: 18 Feb 1996 06:22:16 GMT Message-ID: <4g6gip$h4e@bounty.flash.net> References: All, Here in Fort Worth, Texas - they have been testing what is known as County Specific Warning System. - it has been around here for about 3 years now... When a Watch is issued- the NWS person who is putting out the watch selects what type of watch, and the counties to be alerted on a console on the NOAA WX radio rack... This console is a flat panel with a bunch of selections for different types of alerts. When the watch goes out, normal program is interupted and 3 digital bursts of abount 2 or 3 seconds is heard followed by the 1050 hz alert tone to activate the current generation of wx radios. There is no text going out in these transmissions, just codes to activate the radio. (I dont know about you but I hate being woke up for something that passed through an hour ago).The new radios will allow you to select which counties to alert you to and what type of alert you want to get. (I havent seen a commercial version of these new radios yet). Ed From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:05 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC? Date: 21 Feb 1996 01:00:10 GMT Message-ID: <4gdqqq$gnm@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com> <4gd5lm$p77@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <4gdblr$d8p@abyss.West.Sun.COM> In article , Christopher K. Greenhalgh wrote: >In article <4gdblr$d8p@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wr ites: > >>>Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion >>>can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will >>>run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for >>>portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports >>>voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc. > >>This statement seems to suggest that the modem in the KPC-3 can be >>upgraded to 9600 baud operation, though possibly not easily. From >>a look at the KPC-3 diagram, it was clear that the KPC-3 was built >>for 1200 baud operation *only*, and does not offer a 300 baud >>option. Furthermore, the HDLC interface is implemented in software >>and, to the best of my knowledge, will not run at 9600 baud, even >>if an external modem was connected in place of the internal 1200 >>baud modem. >> >> * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ > >Earlier in the year, I posted that a KPC-3 could not be upgraded to 9600 >(exactly because of what you cite above Dana). I was quickly "corrected" >by a person (cant find the message right now, but Im still looking) that >claimed in fact not only could it be done, but that they had done it, hence, >the reason for my terminalogy above. What did they do, replace the CPU clock crystal with one 8x the original value? I'll bet the current consumption went way up. ;-) -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:07 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC? Date: 20 Feb 1996 20:41:31 GMT Message-ID: <4gdblr$d8p@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com> <4gd5lm$p77@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <4gd5lm$p77@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Christopher K Greenhalgh wrote: >In article <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com>, Edwin Teh wrote: > >>I'd like to buy a simple TNC. Could anyone comment on the following units: >> >>Kantronics KPC-3, > >Great little TNC. However, its not a TAPR clone, hence, the modem portion >can not be upgraded easily. This TNC has the smallest foot print, and will >run on a user installed 9vdc battery and wire clip. (which is VERY nice for >portable packet from a laptop and/or field day) This TNC also supports >voltage from 7vdc to 16vdc. This statement seems to suggest that the modem in the KPC-3 can be upgraded to 9600 baud operation, though possibly not easily. From a look at the KPC-3 diagram, it was clear that the KPC-3 was built for 1200 baud operation *only*, and does not offer a 300 baud option. Furthermore, the HDLC interface is implemented in software and, to the best of my knowledge, will not run at 9600 baud, even if an external modem was connected in place of the internal 1200 baud modem. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:08 1996 From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ### Purchasing a TNC? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: <312D0D00.4510@lanl.gov> References: <3129e6a6.153@greenie.com> To: Edwin Teh I think the Tigertronics Baypac modem with BAYCOM software or the SofTNC software is the most bounce for the buck and best performance for 1200 baud (still the most used) packet. Ramsey also sells this same unit and software for about 50 bucks brand new. This assumes you have an IBM-compatible PC of some sort. If by some odd chance you have a working Commodore 64 or 128 contact me and I can help you get even better software-based TNC systems up and running. Similar software and inexpensive modems exist for the Mac too. -- |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:09 1996 From: ddenter@magi.com (Dean Denter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 9600 radio recomendations? (was Re: data radio information please!) Date: 22 Feb 1996 22:08:03 GMT Message-ID: <4gipg3$s92@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> Reply-To: ddenter@magi.com In article <1996Feb22.170038.15264@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: >To do 9600 baud, a transmitter needs to be true FM (not PM), and must >not inject modulation into a PLL. That eliminates most synthesized >transmitters. A crystal controlled transmitter usually works, though >some are PM, beware. And a few radios that do modulation at a fixed >IF frequency will work, mostly the so-called multimode units, IE IC-820, >IC-275, etc, but not TS-711 or TS-751. Most ordinary synthesized >transceivers won't work, or at least won't work well. > >The second thing a radio needs if it is to do 9600 baud is a receive >IF filter that is phase linear across the bandpass needed for the >modulation envelope. Most transceivers don't have this either. Their >filters are too narrow, filters become very phase non-linear near their >edges, so you need wider than normal filters for 9600 baud packet in >order to keep the signal centered in the linear response region of >the filter. Of course you also need direct discriminator access so >that the audio shaping circuits won't corrupt the eye pattern. > >There are a few radios that do work well for 9600 baud. The Tekk >900 series works, Kantronics and MFJ make crystal controlled data >radios that work, and as mentioned above, some multimodes work Ok >too. Azden also mades a radio, the PCS9600D, that works well. But >the Kenwood, Yaesu, Icom, Standard, Alinco, etc radios that are >*advertised* as 9600 baud ready *aren't*. They all have one or >more of the defects listed above, and their BER performance is >dismal. OK, since the majority of the amateur type accepted radios don't do very well at 9600, can someone recommend a commercial type accepted radio that is easy to modify, cheap, and has good performance at 9600? I already know that the mitreks and maxar 80s work at 9600, but how easy are they to modify? I'm looking for a radio that will work well at around 445Mhz and with at least 10W of power (I'd use the TEKK, but my signal is just a little too weak to get into the repeater properly). Being a hidden transmitter isn't a problem -- I'll be using a 9600 repeater. regards, Dean. -- Dean Denter work -> ddenter@bnr.ca VA3CDD play -> ddenter@magi.com [[[[[[[[[[[[[[I speak only for myself]]]]]]]]]]]]]] From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:10 1996 From: lenggen@fasnov1.zrh.sc.philips.com (Markus Lenggenhager) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: ? WIN pgm for PTC controller ? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 09:39:58 GMT Message-ID: <4gk5gk$sj9@phcoms4.seri.philips.nl> Hi all For a few weeks now I'm poud owner of a new PTC-II controller, which offers the new PACTOR-2 mode (a major improvement over PACTOR-1). Unfortunately the terminal software that comes with the PTC-II is a DOS program, and in my opinion its user interface leaves a lot of room for improvement. Although the PTC controllers are not (yet) widespread outside Europe, I would like to ask here if anyone knows about a Windows program to control the PTC controller. tnx + 73 Markus, HB9BRJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:12 1996 From: dog2000x@aol.com (DOG2000X) Newsgroups: alt.radio.college,alt.radio.uk.talk-radio,alt.rave,alt.revolution.counter,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic,rec.music.artists.queensryche,rec.music.progressive,rec.music.reggae,rec.music.tori-amos,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: A new band on the Web, FIST-The Band Date: 21 Feb 1996 23:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4ggppf$pvl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4fc0q3$otn@shore4.intercom.net> Reply-To: dog2000x@aol.com (DOG2000X) I was wondering if you were aware of a band (very large at the time) from the early 80's called FIST. I believe they were from Germany or Sweden. They put out at least two fairly good selling metal albums, "Hot Spikes" and "Thunder In Rock." "Thunder In Rock" was one of the coolest metal albums ever produced. It was released, I believe, in late 1981 and many of my friends purchased the same album. That FIST toured with bands such as KROKUS in what was the original "Monsters of Rock" in late '81 and early '82. I am still a great fan of the original FIST and wondered if any of your members were remaining members from that band or if you named your band in dedication to those great metal warriors from the past? From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:13 1996 From: sss@sss.u-net.com (Dave Wade) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: ACARS Decoding Date: 24 Feb 1996 15:42:24 GMT Message-ID: <4gnbl0$4nm@nuntius.u-net.net> Reply-To: dw@e.sss.co.uk Hi, Does any onw know of a shareware or PD program that will decode ACARS??. If not is there any more detailed info on it on the net ??. TIA, Dave Wade , G4UGM , p.s. replies by E-Mail if possible. I can't always see the news and it gets aged PDQ on our server. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best? Message-ID: <1996Feb24.083925.21995@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:39:25 GMT In article <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> Bill Crocker wri tes: >I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller. The two I've narrowed i t down to >are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX. I've read the specs and I don't see a real big >advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money. Also, it AEA's software the bes t, or >should I look at others? Lots of people *hate* AEA's software, though you can run the units from an ordinary terminal program. >AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232 ...considering >I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for? The DSP filtering in your radio and the DSP *demodulator* in the modem are two very different things. In general, DSP demodulation is definitely worth it (but that assumes the DSP is competently done, which isn't an a priori given with a new piece of gear). Now if you were talking about MFJ's new offering, where the DSP is just a bandpass filter in front of the hardware demodulator, then the answer would be that you don't need it because your radio already supplies it. That's different. A properly implemented DSP demodulator can give nearly ideal demodulation, something very hard to do in hardware. The demodulator can also adapt its characteristic depending on the type of signal being demodulated, so DSP is particularly useful for a multimode unit. Nobody knows yet if AEA did it right in their new unit. If they did, it may be worth the wait. But you can get a P-38 from HAL today, or the German PACTOR II DSP box (from PacComm), or the TAPR DSP-93, etc. I think non-DSP demodulators will be virtually obsolete for HF in a couple of years, or at least relegated to low end uses. I also expect to see new modulations and protocols appear and gain wide support in the next few years. A DSP unit from a manufacturer committed to keeping it current with methods in use will be important. HAL has made that commitment, and AEA says they will in their ads. Of course an open architecture like the DSP-93 means you can write your own code if need be. Buying a hardware based controller now may be like buying a 1200 baud telco modem, IE it may be suitable for little more than acting as a paperweight in short order as newer DSP designs quickly obsolete it. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:15 1996 From: Bill Crocker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best? Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:42:19 -0500 Message-ID: <312F15BB.2049@mail.rust.net> References: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> <4gmcro$8tv@news1.exit109.com> Scott: Thanks Scott! Your opinion is the majority by far! I think I'll take your ad vice and get the PK-232MBX. You didn't mention what software you prefered...? Thanks again, Bill Crocker From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:16 1996 From: scotth@exit109.com (Scott Holland) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best? Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 06:56:18 GMT Message-ID: <4gmcro$8tv@news1.exit109.com> References: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> Bill Crocker wrote: >I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller. The two I've narrowed i t down to >are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX. I've read the specs and I don't see a real big >advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money. The PK-232MBX is a very nice unit for the money. The PK-900 is a nice toy, but your right, it's really not worth the extra money. The PK-232MBX is more TNC than you'll probably ever use. I have two of them and have gotten a lot of use out them. >Also, it AEA's software the best, or should I look at others? You should never limit yourself to looking at one company's software. AEA's software is nice, but there might be features that you won't like. I've tried their software, but went with somebody elses in the long run. Don't be afraid to try all that you can. >AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232 ...considering >I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for? I guess it counts on how long the wait is. Also, I never buy a new product (or new version of one) until it's been out for a while and I hear the owners complaints or praises. If you want a good TNC right away, go with the PK-232MBX. If not, wait and see what the new one is like. 73's Scott - N2BZT Internet: scotth@exit109.com www: http://www.exit109.com/~scotth amprnet: n2bzt@n2bzt.ampr.org (44.65.40.64) PBBS: N2BZT@WT3V.NJ.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:17 1996 From: johnliu@earthlink.net (John Y. Liu) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Anyone Using HP200LX For Packet? Date: 20 Feb 1996 03:15:44 GMT Message-ID: <4gbed0$j2h@ecuador.it.earthlink.net> Hi, I'm thinking of trying packet. I'm also thinking of getting a HP200LX palmtop. I wonder if anyone out there has run packet using a 200LX? Could you let me know how suitable it is? 73, KE6GPF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:18 1996 From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AX.25 C implementation Date: 26 Feb 1996 13:57:30 GMT Message-ID: <4gse8a$enk@cloner4.netcom.com> References: <4gnfai$bde@post.tau.ac.il> In <4gnfai$bde@post.tau.ac.il> yuv@lune.math.tau.ac.il (Raviv Yuval) writes: > >Hi, > > > Can some1 point me to AX.25 implementation in C ? > > > thanks > > yuv@math.tau.ac.il > Get JNOS from ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip best, kc6jet From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:20 1996 From: kotto@comp.uark.edu (Kevin Otto) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: data radio information please! Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:07:53 GMT Message-ID: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> Hi! I just got my license today, and I need information, and lots of it. Maybe there's a big ol' FAQ out there for me? Well, here are some specific questions: 1) I visited a local ham who highly recommended a KAM Plus. Its speed is 1200/9600 baud at VHF/UHF/HF, right? Will it REALLY transfer at 9600, or will the actual throughput be more like 2400 baud? 2) Isn't 1200 baud the max allowed speed for HF bands? If that is the case, then I will NOT want to spend the extra bucks for a TNC like the KAM Plus to handle HF, because I want a TNC to transfer data, not to type to somebody. So if this is true, what TNC would you guys recommend, where to get it from, and what is the price? 3) I saw somewhere on the net last night that a special transciever is required to transfer data above 1200 baud. Is this true, and if so, what 2m HTs would you guys recommend? Another question here is, how does a TNC attach to an HT? 4) Are there any TNCs above 9600 baud for sale, and are they very reliable? 5) (you'll love this one) Is there a possible way to use TNCs to play games like Doom and Descent? The local ham could not describe how a TNC functions well enough for me to understand. If I'm lucky and a TNC communicates like a modem or null modem, then great. Or could I possibly make a TSR to connect the two TNCs and then could use them like modems or null modems? Thanks for your time. If you can, I would love for replies to be e-mailed to me in addition to being posted here, because I don't get on the net too much, and when I do, some newsgroup posts are usually gone. Kevin From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:21 1996 From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: data radio information please! Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:05:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> In article <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com>, mulveyr@vivanet.com wrote: > On Wed, 21 Feb 96 02:07:53 GMT, Kevin Otto wrote: > >Hi! > >I just got my license today, and I need information, and lots of it. > >Maybe there's a big ol' FAQ out there for me? Well, here are some > >specific questions: > > > >1) I visited a local ham who highly recommended a KAM Plus. Its speed is > > 1200/9600 baud at VHF/UHF/HF, right? Will it REALLY transfer at 960 0, > > or will the actual throughput be more like 2400 baud? > > You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands. > > Throughput for a 9600baud modem over RF is going to be noticibly slower > than an equivalent land-line modem, primarily because you'll be using > a simplex link, and you have to deal with PLL lock times, etc. > > < S N I P > Let's make just one minor correction: You CAN run 1200 baud on 10M; above 28 MHz you are not limited to just 300. However, propagation on 10 has been so bad you could probably do better using a wet string! Also I would further emphasize Rich's comment that throughput over a simplex radio connection is greatly reduced compared to a quiet full duplex telephone line: For a VHF radio packet rule of thumb, figure that AT BEST you will see one fourth the throughput of landline modems operating at the same speed. Thus on 10M your 1200 baud packet runs about as fast a 300 baud wireline. On the lower HF bands you can probably cut that number down by another 50%. If you think 300 baud landlines are slow, HF (300 baud) packet radio averages 1/8 of that, or about 36 baud!! The more exotic modes AMTOR, PACTOR and CLOVER are faster, much faster, and very much faster respectively. The usual disclaimer: Your thumb may be bigger. 73 -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola Pvt Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > (847) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to Motorola Inc for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:22 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: data radio information please! Message-ID: <1996Feb22.173441.15497@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:34:41 GMT In article <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> mulveyr@vivanet.com writes: > > You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands. 10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop. With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:23 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: data radio information please! Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:52:54 GMT Message-ID: <4giahm$dvi@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> <1996Feb22.173441.15497@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article <1996Feb22.173441.15497@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> mulveyr@vivanet.com writes: >> >> You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands. > >10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop. >With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-) Kepp in mind non-Morse data is only allow between 28.0 and 28.3MHz. I've run 1200baud on 28.195 several times, usually into adjacent states. Pretty cool. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:24 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FBB & MFJ1278 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:23:47 GMT Message-ID: <4gblvn$n1o@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Hello ALL I am running an FBB system v515c, bpq4.06 and a single mfj1278 in kiss mode. Problem is that the TNC goes BESERK every two days and totally screws up !!. It looses its baud rate and is very difficult to reset.. Does ANYONE have any ideas ???? From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:25 1996 From: mnowlen@cwi.net (Michael Nowlen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FS: RCA TAC200 6 Meter Mobile Radios, 100 Watts Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 03:22:49 GMT Message-ID: <4ggnf6$htc@news> High quality Commercial FM Two-Way Radio. Great for Packet Nodes. RCA TAC 200 Low Band Mobile Radio High Split (42-50 Mhz) FULLY SOLID-STATE Commercial FM Transceiver. 6 Frequency, Crystal Controlled. Can be converted to 6 Meter Operation. 100 Watt transmit. Excellent specs. Complete with Control Head, Microphone, Cable, 1 set of channel elements. 25 lbs. Plus shipping charges $100 Mike Nowlen, WB4UKB Reston, VA 703-716-1363 No calls after 10PM Eastern please. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:25 1996 From: edmund emich Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FS:2m HT Date: 24 Feb 1996 19:53:26 GMT Message-ID: <4gnqbm$a1d@buffnet2.buffnet.net> ADI AT-200 2m HT 5w, 130-168 Mhz RX TX 144-148 Mhz , Mars/CAP capable 20 mem,CTCSS,DTMF,SCAN,CSC,PAGING,CALL,ect. Very small, only 2" at hand hold. NEW ONLY $199.00 Call (716) 853-1931 EMAIL microtec@buffnet.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:27 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: crafty@pgh.nauticom.net (Bob Crafton) Subject: Re: HAMCOM LATEST VERSION ?? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 20:34:03 GMT References: <262@yebbs.com> As far as I know, the last release I've seen was Hamcom ver. 3.0. I have had the same experience with Hamcom on RTTY. Works ok on strong clean signals, but not very well otherwise. Seems to do a good job on CW, though. If there is a newer version, or if you find a way to improve RTTY reception, let me know. 73, Bob Crafton, WA3SLE SAMIR KHAYAT (samir_khayat@yebbs.com) wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone knows what is the Latest version of HAMCOM program,and what > are the new features it includes ? > I have the Ver.2.1 and I built the Modem (actually the Comporator) and > use it on RTTY but the performance was not very good ,I could only detect > the Strong signals.On the other Hand the modem is working fine with > the JVFAX program for SSTV (Great program !!!). > Any Ideas about how to improve the RTTY reception with the HAMCOM ?? > Best 73's > Samir ( OD5SK / KC5RYL ) > PACKET: OD5SK@7Z2YB.JED.SAU.MDLE > OD5SK@OD5RAK.LBN.MDLE > > ... °±²Û CQ CQ CQ DE OD5SK Û²°± > ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR] From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:27 1996 From: cm4bcatp@bs47c.staffs.ac.uk (Connor^Macleod) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help BPQ & CHAT PROGRAM Date: 20 Feb 1996 09:51:38 GMT Message-ID: <4gc5ja$3u8@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Hi All Im trying to get CHAT4 working with my BPQ in windows. How do you set up a callsign so as the node knows what to connect to? I mean setting up a callsign in the chat program. -- ==================================================================== Alias :Connor^Macleod E-Mail CM4BCATP@BS47C.STAFFS.AC.UK Degree Student @ Staffs University UK Life is what you make it.... =================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:29 1996 From: Miguel Angel Garcia Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help BPQ & CHAT PROGRAM Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 13:33:15 +0100 Message-ID: <312DB40B.794BDF32@madrid.ericsson.se> References: <4gc5ja$3u8@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> To: Connor^Macleod Connor^Macleod wrote: > > Hi All > > Im trying to get CHAT4 working with my BPQ in windows. > > How do you set up a callsign so as the node knows what to connect to? > I mean setting up a callsign in the chat program. > > -- > ==================================================================== > Alias :Connor^Macleod E-Mail CM4BCATP@BS47C.STAFFS.AC.UK > Degree Student @ Staffs University UK > > Life is what you make it.... > =================================================================== Hello: I am not sure on what you want to do. But if you want that users may connect to the chat server directly (using an own callsign for the chat server) instead of connecting to the node and then issuing the chat command, you must recompile the chat4.pas program, following these steps: 1) Look for the Procedure setup. 2) In this procedure, locate the following line: regs.dl := 16; { Application number } 3) Change to regs.dl := 1; { Application number } 4) Compile again Then, you must change in BPQCFG.TXT the following parameters: 1) BBSCALL=GB4CHAT ; put here the callsign of the server 2) BBSALIAS=CHAT ; put here the alias of the server 3) BBS=1 4) Run BPQCFG.EXE Note that I haven't tested it, but I hope it works for you. Best regards from Miguel Angel, EA1DOF. -- ___________________________________________________________ Miguel Angel Garcia Martin Ericsson R&D Telemaco 5 28027 Madrid Phone: +34 1 339 2985 CCS Software Engineer Fax: +34 1 339 2906 ____________________________________________________________ e-mail: ememaga@madrid.ericsson.se eme.ememaga@memo.ericsson.se From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:30 1996 From: ssampson@telepath.com (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help with BPQ under WIN96 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:40:58 Message-ID: References: <4grg09$i6q@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () writes: >Now, my problem is that I want to run it via ethernet.. My sequence >of events are as follows >1) Boot WIN95 machine >2) Break out of BOOT and goto DOS >3) Load LSL.com >4) Load ce2ODI.exe - XIRCOM Credit card adaptor >5) Goto BPQ directory and run odidrv 200 >I test this process by loading the switch program and it works great.. >Now the fun starts !!! Well you're in the DOS mode, it should work. When I see LSL being loaded, I have to ask why? Have you tried the Microsoft IPX/SPX protocol? Why not bring up windows and then enable the network parts? Check for a Xircom driver there. As old as that is, there should be a driver. My real answer would be to chuck BPQ and run IP... Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:31 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help with old Dos 3.10 Date: 26 Feb 1996 14:02:37 GMT Message-ID: <4gseht$rem@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4gr0j2$3vr@news.rrnet.com> In article , Steve Sampson wrote: >>I did a stupid thing and deleted my Command.com for Dos 3.1 >>from the root >>directory and then shut the computer off. > >So boot up with a floppy and type undelete (if you have that). 3.1 did not support the "undelete" command. Even if you boot with a 6.x floppy, I believe the FAT table does not "mirror" a previous change. >>Can anyone tell me how to do this or can anyone send me a copy >>of >>Command.com for Dos 3.10 so I can get started again? > >It's copyright. Call IBM. It is indeed copyrighted, but if you are a licensed user, you are allowed to make a back up, and use it for yourself only. >WHy not just buy DOS 6.22? Because 6.22 is 6 meg...3.1 is less than 1. You can see why if you have a 10 meg hard drive. :) Take care all. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:32 1996 From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: help: DGPS demodulator , MSK Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:13:48 -0500 Message-ID: <312AFE6C.358A@dibbs.net> References: Les Dittert wrote: > > I am considering making a differential signal decoder for GPS. > The US coast guard transmits a correction signal at about 300 Khz(Part delet ed for brevity) > Considering the slow speed , is there an easy MSK demod circuit around? > Maybe using an AtoD converter and singal processing it ? After all , it's > only 100 baud....I don't have an answer for you but I am also interested in trying to decode the DGPS signals. If you receive any positive responses please post them here. I feel sure that a simple demodulator as used for wefax or morse decoder made of a 741 opamp could be used and the decoding of data done in software, but thats way beyond my ability. Gene, WA4WBI From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:33 1996 From: scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 21 Feb 1996 20:21:22 GMT Message-ID: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? Seems like my MFJ-1270C hardly decodes any packet signals at all on HF. Are most people using Pactor? Just wondering if I should continue with it or plan on switching to Pactor. de KE6LBX From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:34 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 22 Feb 1996 01:29:05 GMT Message-ID: <4gggt1$514@news-2.csn.net> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> In article <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com>, scicon@ix.netcom.co says... >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? No. >Just wondering if I should continue with it or plan on >switching to Pactor. Switch to Pactor or G-tor or both. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA email: stan@mutadv.com KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:35 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com (Brian Ellsworth) Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Message-ID: <312c7882.57508142@cronkite> Reply-To: ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:07:12 GMT scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) wrote: >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? > no From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Message-ID: <1996Feb22.173106.15416@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:31:06 GMT In article <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) writes: >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? I'd say generally no. Unless you're part of a traffic forwarding system, packet offers very little of utility at HF, and even for traffic forwarding, packet as currently done has some very serious problems. >Seems like my MFJ-1270C hardly decodes any packet signals at all >on HF. Are most people using Pactor? PACTOR is currently the most popular HF digital mode. It works pretty well, though Clover II is much better. GTOR is up and coming, offering some advantages over PACTOR, though seriously lagging behind Clover II in performance. And PACTOR II is now becoming available. It may be better than Clover II under certain circumstances. If you're going to setup for HF digital, get a DSP unit that has a manufacturer offering strong firmware support, and who has committed to supporting newer modes as they come along. HF digital is in a state of flux, and any non-DSP hardware you buy today is likely to be obsolete in a year or two. I'm using the HAL P-38 card, which I believe is the most cost effective DSP approach currently available for HF digital. HAL is supposedly going to offer upgrades to the P-38 to support PACTOR II, and is also rumored to be adding GTOR support. Right now the card does RTTY (Baudot and ASCII), PACTOR, AMTOR, and of course Clover II. PacComm sells the German PACTOR II box, but it's $995. They are supposed to come out with a less expensive US built version *real soon now*. I've seen the prototype, but the step to production may be a while yet. AEA claims in their ads that they will support newer digital modes with their new DSP box, but so far they don't support Clover II or GTOR, though they do support PACTOR. I haven't seen any indication of a DSP box out of Kantronics yet. They're a close mouthed bunch, though, and who knows what they may be working on. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:37 1996 From: gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 26 Feb 1996 19:01:29 GMT Message-ID: <4gt029$b4h@hatch.sonalysts.com> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> <312c7882.57508142@cronkite> Brian Ellsworth (ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com) wrote: > scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) wrote: > >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? > > > no I have worked it only because I'm desperate to get the last few states on FSK (RTTY/Packet/Amtor...), and I've been lucky enough to connect to and get QSL's from a couple of unattended stations. Other than that, it's a bust. Entertainment value near zero. -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN | I cried because I had | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280 gerheim@sonalysts.com | no shoes till I met a | 215 Parkway North 1 (800) 526-8091 X218 | man who had no class. | Waterford CT 06385 ********************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:39 1996 From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:33:40 -0700 Message-ID: <312D0B64.5804@lanl.gov> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> To: Dan Walker Heh, your experience is not at ALL unusual. HF packet is so crowded it is very difficult to decode many packets at all. Some tips if you MUST continue trying HF packet: Set your GarbageMode on, so it will show incomplete packets. Use only a good stable late model radio, the slightest drift will render packets undecipherable. It is much easier to QSO with someone on packet using the unproto mode, i.e. you don't connect to the other station at all, just send the sentence or line unconnected. With your garbagemode enabled you can at least carry on a semblance of a QSO with someone. The "perfect packet or reject-it-all" methodology of packet "connections" is OK only if you are trying to send a program or perfect error-free copy and you can setup the connection and walk away and do something useful while your TNC fights hopelessly on, trying to get it through. This works quite well on VHF with relatively noise-free paths but is an almost useless way of growing old on HF. Use the less popular frequencies if possible, such as 28.160, 28.170, 28.180, etc... when the band is open good the lack of 20 meter QRM will greatly improve the performance. If you must stick to HF I recommend switching to RTTY or AMTOR, the modes are much more usable with HF propagation. |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:40 1996 From: bob.miles@zetnet.co.uk (Robert G Miles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 23:27:37 GMT Message-ID: <4gtjq0$87c@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> <312c7882.57508142@cronkite> <4gt029$b4h@hatch.sonalysts.com> In message <4gt029$b4h@hatch.sonalysts.com> gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) writes: > Brian Ellsworth (ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com) wrote: > > scicon@ix.netcom.com(Dan Walker ) wrote: > > >Is it worth getting set up to use HF packet? > > > > > no > I have worked it only because I'm desperate to get the last > few states on FSK (RTTY/Packet/Amtor...), and I've been lucky > enough to connect to and get QSL's from a couple of unattended > stations. Other than that, it's a bust. Entertainment value > near zero. Agree up to a point. Its like watching paint dry! Don't expect lively point to point Qso's. BUT Its an achievement to hook up to Moscow or Belgium on Packet, out through their nodes and explore. I did it on 20m from Shetland, where I live, to Colchester in South England, on VHF to LONNY on London, out via wormhole to New York and had a look around. Took Hours! Sad Really! Bob GM4CAQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:41 1996 From: 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca (Sherwin Lim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 02:48:16 GMT Message-ID: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> Reply-To: 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca Hello All... I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet program. The registration cost US$79. Please tell me what you think of the program, that is if you use the program. thanks sherwin From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:42 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: 26 Feb 1996 18:55:10 GMT Message-ID: <4gsvme$eun@news-2.csn.net> References: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> <4gr82a$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> In article , ssampson@telepath.com says... >jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com (Jeff McLeman) writes: >>>I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet >>>program. The registration cost US$79. >>>Please tell me what you think of the program, that is if you use the >>>program. >1. It is not a host mode program. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well, I try to keep my postings about KaWin extremely brief, but this MISINFORMATION begs more than a simple correction. It suggests that some who have evalualted KaWin might not have reviewed the principle features. So here for all is a short summary: All TNC communication modes. VHF and HF packet radio. CW, Rtty, Ascii and Navtex. Amtor, Pactor, G-Tor, Tor-standby and G-Tor Monitor. Host mode interace. Host mode means KaWin and your TNCs communicate computer to computer. Host mod e means full use of your dual-port TNCs. Simultaneous multiple TNCs, multiple ports, multiple streams and multiple radios. Native MS Windows program. KaWin is a no compromise design for MS Windows in 486 and Pentium systems. Onl y a native Windows program can offer fully event-driven communications. Looks like, feels like and talks to your other Windows applications. Separate send and receive windows for each QSO, radio and TNC. Intuitive menus, full mouse support and on-line help make KaWin is easy to learn. Windows accelerator keys and shortcuts keys for operating speed. Easy and clean to install and remove - leaves no residue. Flexibility Hundreds of configurable options for complete customization. Quick keys, Quick connects, Brag files, CQ robot, Restartable binary file transfers, Ansi graphics and much more. And you can download and test the full working program directly from the web page below. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA email: stan@mutadv.com KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:44 1996 From: scotth@exit109.com (Scott Holland) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS lite ? Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 22:29:34 GMT Message-ID: <4g899a$kub@news1.exit109.com> References: <4fqkjd$bgt@news.res.ray.com> <4frnkg$brt@news.halcyon.com> Go to the ftp site at ucsd.edu. There you will find the latest version of JNOS compiled for the 8088. The file name is "JNOS110M.EXE". Make sure you also get the file "DOCS110M.ZIP". This file includes documentation for the updated version of JNOS. I also had a problem with ram usage. It seems that JNOS version 110L and earlier default to using EMS. My 286 doesn't have EMS, but it does have XMS. Here's what I learned. If you run this version from the DOS command line as follows, it will use only conventional memory (base 640k). Try this: jnos110L -m2 The -m2 forces it to use your base ram. Here's a list of the -mn commands: -m0 forces it to use EMS (the default) -m1 forces it to use XMS -m2 forces it to use the 640k base ram -m3 forces it to use the hard drive The new version that I mentioned above, 110M, will do this automatically. It will look for EMS first, if none found it will try XMS, if none found it will try base ram. Good luck and I hope this helps, Scott Holland - N2BZT Internet: scotth@exit109.com www: http://www.exit109.com/~scotth amprnet: n2bzt@n2bzt.ampr.org (44.65.40.64) PBBS: N2BZT@WT3V.NJ.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:45 1996 From: Bob Dashoff Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM+ or PK-232 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:36:31 -0800 Message-ID: <313162FF.504F@ucr.campus.mci.net> References: <4fr670$gae@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> I have had both the AEA PK-232 and the Kam. I prfer the Kam as it is state of the art, runs cooler and has the selectable switch cap filtering. It has worked flawlessly on all modes. The only thing that I wish it had is the ability to be upgraded to 9600 baud packet. I sold my 232 after retrofiting it with about everything that T.A.P.R. has to offer including a 9600 baud upgrade kit. The DCD State machine is in the Kam and not in the 232. This lets you run with the squeltch open and deciphers noise for data. I saw a Kam+ in the swap area of this group for $200.00. Take care, Bob.... Sun evening 11:00pm From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:46 1996 From: Marinus Willemstijn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KamPlus + Wefax?? Date: 21 Feb 1996 07:44:31 GMT Message-ID: <4geigv$a4r@newnews.iafrica.com> Has anyone tried this? I'd like to but which package can I use and will it convert a 2m FM signal? Marinus ZS6MAW willemma@telkom19.telkom.co.za From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:47 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (Karl Medcalf (WK5M)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kantronics new WWW site - product info, hints Date: 24 Feb 1996 15:31:16 GMT Message-ID: <4gnb04$bek@sequoia.idir.net> Kantronics now has a WWW site with spec sheets on their products, hints on operating, some articles of interest, etc. It also provides mailto links for service related problems. http://www.kantronics.com/ -- 73, Karl Internet: medcalf@idir.net Packet: WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM ***** The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not ***** ***** necessarily reflect those of my employer! ***** From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:47 1996 From: wilson@fred.net (Wilson Small) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KPC-3 PBFORWD command? Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:06:22 GMT Message-ID: <4glkpu$3ce@dec-alpha.fred.net> hi all.. I noticed a command called PBFORWD when I hit the '?' on my Kantronics KPC-3 TNC.... I can't find this command in my reference manual .... can anybody tell me what this command is supposed to do? thankx wilson -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | wilson small (wilson@fred.net) snail: po box 1400 | | packet radio N3OVS@KD3O.MD.US.NA frederick, md 21701 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:48 1996 From: larry@ (Larry Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for the SP software Package Date: 22 Feb 1996 17:49:10 GMT Message-ID: <4giaam$2gpc@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Reply-To: lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com (Larry Schroeder) Hello, A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP. It is suppose to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time. If you have heard of it and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below. Thanks Larry Schroeder lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com KD4HSL From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:49 1996 From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Looking for the SP software Package Date: 22 Feb 1996 19:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4gj8jp$jb5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4giaam$2gpc@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> larry@ (Larry Schroeder) wrote: >Hello, >A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP. It is suppose >to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time. If you have heard of it >and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below. >Thanks >Larry Schroeder >lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com >KD4HSL Try ftp.tapr.org in /tapr/software_lib/terminal/sp650.exe. This is the last freeware version. There is a version 9.5 available commercially. Bob Nielsen, w6swe From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:50 1996 From: mcleod@bconnex.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MAC>PK88 Pinnouts needed Date: 22 Feb 1996 04:11:28 GMT Message-ID: <4ggqdg$qb2@news.bconnex.net> Can anyone supply me with the complete pinnouts for a MAC Classic to AEA PK88? My PK88 manual shows DB9P connector at the MAC end but my Classic uses a Mdin 8 connector. I have it working in the three wire configuration but would like to have the h andshaking working as well Tnx de Tim/VE3TZS From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:51 1996 From: mla@connect.net (Michael L. Ayler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MAC>PK88 Pinnouts needed Date: 25 Feb 1996 19:09:51 GMT Message-ID: References: <4ggqdg$qb2@news.bconnex.net> In article <4ggqdg$qb2@news.bconnex.net>, mcleod@bconnex.net wrote: > Can anyone supply me with the complete pinnouts for a MAC Classic to AEA PK8 8? > > My PK88 manual shows DB9P connector at the MAC end but my Classic uses a Mdin 8 connector. > I have it working in the three wire configuration but would like to have the handshaking working as well > > Tnx de Tim/VE3TZS Tim, just a Mac modem cable. Works just fine. MLA -- Michael L. Ayler KC5QPZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:52 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rwilcox@newton.cacky.com (Gary Wilcox) Subject: MFJ-1276 & PACTOR Message-ID: Reply-To: rwilcox@newton.cacky.com (Gary Wilcox) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:51:05 GMT Help I just got a new MFJ-1276 TNC and am trying to get it to do PACTOR. I have it hooked up OK because I can do regular HF packet but when I type PACTOR at the cmd: prompt I get nothing. The TNC will echo everything you type but it never gives the p_cmd: prompt. The only way to continue is to power off and back on. What gives? tnx es 73's Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:53 1996 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MFJ-43 Real Time Clock. How does it work? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:03:26 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gkhep$j3r@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Hi, I notice that MFJ advertises a real time clock (RTC) unit for MFJ and other TNC-2 compatible modems. Does anyone know how this works? Is this in fact just a Dallas DS-1216? Does this mean that TAPR and MFJ have already included code to read these devices? Or is there some other method or code in there that we do not already know of? If anyone has any clue as to how this thing works I would greatly appreciate it. I am trying to build an RTC for my MFJ but I would like to use it with the WA8DED host mode and do not know if the MFJ unit will actually work with the WA8DED firmware. Thanks in advance. 73 de 9V1ZV Daniel Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:54 1996 From: tomb@lsid.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.ham-radio,alt.support.turner-syndrom,alt.radio.digital Subject: Re: Need : IF/RF Detectors Date: 21 Feb 1996 16:33:06 GMT Message-ID: <4gfhg2$f92@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com> References: mecc@mb.fukuoka.infoweb.or.jp wrote: : Hi there, I am looking for IF/RF detectors/detector diodes for micropower : measurements (100 MHz - 2 GHz). Has anybody had any good or bad experiences : whith this products ? Has anybody know manufactures which produce such parts . My employer, and I'm sure others, make detector diodes intended for use at zero bias. There is a pretty good article about them in the December, 1995, "Hewlett Packard Journal." If you would be happy with an SOT-23 package, the HSMS-2850 might be worth looking at. At low power levels, the output into the proper load is nearly linear in voltage versus input power; that diode has about 100mV/uW sensitivity in the frequency range you are interested in. You should be able to measure down to nanowatt levels with homebrew stuff; that's a fraction of a millivolt of RF. -- Cheers, Tom tomb@lsid.hp.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:55 1996 From: mecc@mb.fukuoka.infoweb.or.jp Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.ham-radio,alt.support.turner-syndrom,alt.radio.digital Subject: Need : IF/RF Detectors Date: Wed, 21 Feb 96 09:32:09 PDT Message-ID: Hi there, I am looking for IF/RF detectors/detector diodes for micropower measurements (100 MHz - 2 GHz). Has anybody had any good or bad experiences whith this products ? Has anybody know manufactures which produce such parts. Thanx in advance for any help. N. Alexander e-mail: mecc@mb.fukuoka.infoweb.or.jp From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:56 1996 From: goldwing@bihs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need W-95 SSTV S/W for Viewport VGA adapter Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 03:47:44 GMT Message-ID: <4gm25j$esn@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw> Has anyone written any software for the A&A Engineering ViewPort VGA Color SSTV System adapter? I'm still using to original sofware that came with the unit several years ago and it run under DOS only.. Would appreciate a web-site if anything is available for downloading.. Thanks Dennis W5XO From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:57 1996 From: gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need WY, UT, VT, DE on RTTY Date: 26 Feb 1996 15:41:50 GMT Message-ID: <4gskbu$44q@hatch.sonalysts.com> If you can help, please reply by email. -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN | I cried because I had | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280 gerheim@sonalysts.com | no shoes till I met a | 215 Parkway North 1 (800) 526-8091 X218 | man who had no class. | Waterford CT 06385 ********************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:58 1996 From: orrin@stinger.redshift.com (Orrin Winton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: open forum for packet users Date: 22 Feb 1996 00:17:31 GMT Message-ID: <4ggcmr$dnb@wing.redshift.com> This is to announce the creation of an open forum for packet network users who feel they have been poorly treated by sysops. Details can be found on my Web page: http://www.redshift.com/~orrin Click on the link for "The Sysop Sundrome" that's Syndrome sorry. Then at the end of that section there's a link to http://www.redshift.com/~orr in/ ki6eh.html. You may submit your horror stories to me at orrin@redshift.com, and they will appear as a Web page. Specify if you want to sign your story or be anonymous. Name names and callsigns, if you feel you can. orrin@redshift.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:00:59 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (Karl Medcalf (WK5M)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet connections for Radio Shack HTX-202 Date: 26 Feb 1996 13:31:50 GMT Message-ID: <4gsco6$5hc@sequoia.idir.net> References: <9602261119.AA03498@bns101.bng.ge.com> In article <9602261119.AA03498@bns101.bng.ge.com>, socci@bns101.bng.ge.COM says... > >I am interested in connecting my Radio Shack HTX-202 handheld radio to a >Kantronics Data Engine for packet communication. The documentation for >the data engine shows pinouts for the Tx, Rx, and PTT (as well as grounds, etc) >My Radio Shack documentation says nothing about how to hook these up to the >mic and speaker connections. I don't even know if the phono plugs are >2-conductor or 3-conductor. I want to rig up a cable to connect the radio to >the data engine, but I can't find the pinouts. >I brought the radio to Radio Shack, but they had no idea. They even tried >to sell my a mic/speaker mobile handset (as if I needed it). >Has anyone ever connected a Radio Shack HTX-202 to a packet TNC? If so, what >are the pinouts? > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > / Vince Socci / Lockheed Martin Control Systems /| > /==============================/====================================/ / > / 600 Main Street / Systems Engineer / / > / Johnson City, New York / Advanced Controls Engineering / / > / 13790-1888 / Email: socci@bns101.bng.ge.com / / > / / Callsign: KB2UXU / / > / Tel (607) 770-2828 / Marcall Tel: 8*255-2828 / / > / Fax (607) 770-2213 / Marcall Fax: 8*255-2213 / / >/______________________________/____________________________________/ / >|_____________________________/\____________________________________|/ Vince. You can find the wiring diagrams for the HTX-202 at: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/wire/ They HTX-202 is the same wiring as the Yaesu HT shown in your Kantronics TNC manual. -- 73, Karl Internet: medcalf@idir.net Packet: WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM ***** The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not ***** ***** necessarily reflect those of my employer! ***** From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:00 1996 Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 21:51:47 EST From: me Message-ID: <96052.215147IO20754@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet Digipeaters: What&How I am looking at putting up a digipeater to run at least 9600buad packet. I want to find out what equipment will be needed from the radio to the software. If any one has information/suggestions on equipment or where to look to get information I would apreciate hearing from you. Please send responses to my E-mail account. Thanks, Aaron KA1VOA Orono Maine From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com (Brian Ellsworth) Subject: Re: Packet Digipeaters: What&How Message-ID: <312c7699.57019942@cronkite> Reply-To: ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com References: <96052.215147IO20754@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:06:28 GMT me wrote: > I am looking at putting up a digipeater to run at least 9600buad > packet. I want to find out what equipment will be needed from the > radio to the software. If any one has information/suggestions on > equipment or where to look to get information I would apreciate > hearing from you. Please send responses to my E-mail account. > > i hate to remind everyone, but digipeaters really don't work worth a hoot. The digipeat function was an compromising kludge from the start. It would have been better if it had never been conceived of. Since you're in Maine, i'll bet you can find a repeater pair on 440 or MAYbe even two-meter-CB pair. Grab one of those and put up a full duplex packet repeater. Packet users should stop settling for garbage performance. -be From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:02 1996 From: Ian Brothwell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PACTOR for the financially challenged Date: 21 Feb 1996 11:40:37 GMT Message-ID: <4gf0bl$c0o@griffin.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> References: To: kd7s@valleynet.com BMKMULTY might be suitable for you - it offers Pactor. Have a look at http://cs.nott.ac.uk/~ibx/BARTG I believe that there is a USA outlet for BMKMULTY but his may not be mentioned in the Web pages. Email G4BMK for details (you'll find his email addres at the Web site). 73, Ian G4EAN (secretary of BARTG). From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:03 1996 From: muphaus@cris.com (Marv Uphaus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PACTOR for the financially challenged Date: 23 Feb 1996 06:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: muphaus@cris.com On 21 Feb 1996 11:40:37 GMT Ian Brothwell wrote: >I believe that there is a USA outlet for BMKMULTY but his may not be mentione d >in the Web pages. BMK-MULTY is available through Schnedler Systems in Asheville, NC... SPHERETON / Schnedler Systems 25 Eastwood Road P.O.Box 5964 Ashville, NC 28813 704 274-4646 Marv, K4BVG, a long time, satisfied BMK-MULTY user... ----------------------------------------------------------- Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --Bertrand Russell From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:04 1996 From: wmkresl@townsquare.net (Wm Kresl) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PMP & EZPacket Software Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 08:09:43 GMT Message-ID: <4gp555$ios@spectator.cris.com> References: middleto@mdd.comm.mot.com (Don Middleton) wrote: >I am looking for a newer version of the shareware package Poor Man's >Packet (PMP) beyond v1.1 published in 1991. >Alternatively, I have read on the WWW that there is a simila software >package called EZPacket which also works with PMP class modems. >If anyone has paths on the net where to obtain copies, please let me know. >Alternatively, I can receive attachments at my address >middleto@mdd.comm.mot.com if you have something kicking around in your >personal file system. >73 and Thanks, >Don Middleton VE7IMD Hi Don, There is NO newer version of the PMP software then the version you have (1.1) to my knowlege. The EZpaket software is at version 1.7 (me thinks) and will work with both the PMP and Baycom modem. However, I also believe that BAYCOM modems may require a certain mod to add the CARRIER DETECT out of your modem chip back to the interface, whether your using the COM or LPT ports. The PMP modems provided this CD signal to the parallel port interface. The BAYCOM modem doesn't use it, they used a software DCD approach. Therefore, you must ADD (via transistors or an inverter chip) the wiring to use the BAYCOM modem with the PMP/EZPACKET software. The EZPACKET software was written by a high school student at the time, FRANK DOMINA-N9MXT, for a school class. We communicated for a short period of time when he released his program to the world, and I found some bugs in it. I am not sure if his stuff can be found on the WEB but any ham BBS would have it (e.g.DIGITAL HAMSHACK in GERMANTOWN, WI). It is OK software for ease of use. However, I would suggest you simply modify your present PMP parallel port modem to work on your SERIAL PORT by adding ] a few more components, and thus convert it into a BAYCOM unit! You will have a LOT more software avenues to choose from that way, The FBB and NPF programs give you full forwarding node/BBS and of course JNOS can be done easily with the BAYCOM's. I use to put out (on packet) the PMP NEWSLETTER (from 1991 thru 1995) and we discussed a lot of stuff along these lines. I am looking for a WWW home for this old stuff as well as a place to upload the old software I have received for anybody that wants it. If you know of a good home for these old newsletters, let me know. If you really need EZPACKET software, I can mail it to you as ZIP attachment. Take care and 73's........ Wm Kresl WB9BBC -- Wm Kresl WB9BBC @KD9JK.WI.USA.NOAM Delavan, WI -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:06 1996 From: Per Stangeland Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Radio Database Program LW, MW, SW coverage for YOU..... Date: 22 Feb 1996 19:50:43 GMT Message-ID: <4gihej$3q6@nms.telepost.no> References: <4gduns$sio@news.flinet.com> To: chuck@mail.flinet.com Charles Bolland wrote: >FRIENDS, > >If you would like a free copy of a radio database program that covers >longwave, mediumwave, and shortwave with at least 4,000 of records, send >your NAME, POSTAL ADDRESS, and EMAIL address to chuck@flinet, and I will >return the program to you via EMAIL. > >The program is not up to date! It is a program used during 1994 and >hasn't be updated since. However, many of the records are still current >for stations that do not change every quarter. > >The program is good until June 6, 1996. After that it will not function. > >Hope to hear from you and don't forget your Postal Address for >registration and future information via mail.. > >All addresses will be kept confidential! > >Chuck > >chuck@flinet.com > > My address is: Per Stangeland Luftfartsverket Luftveien 16 N-3440 Royken Norway. Best Regards Per From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:08 1996 From: elschemm@mtu.edu (Evan L. Schemm) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Ramsey Packet Modem Date: 23 Feb 1996 21:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4glu16$otl@tamarack.cs.mtu.edu> I recently dug out my old Ramsey Packet Modem to use as a second TNC. It works fine with the BAYCOM software that came with it, but I want to use it for something else (and possibly not on a PC). Does anyone know of any source code for the BAYCOM program, or anything similar? I tried hooking it up and letting a generic terminal program listen, but nothing came through. I suspect that it needs something more. Any help would be appreciated. Schemm N8JIS From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:09 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Regency HR312 on Packet? Message-ID: <1996Feb19.152047.7794@inet.d48.lilly.com> From: B.Cooper@Lilly.Com Date: 19 Feb 96 15:20:47 EST Distribution: world Has anyone used a Regency HR312 on Packet? Were there any modifications needed ? Please respond by E-mail. Thanks b.cooper@lilly.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:10 1996 From: Leon Joosse Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: SLIP over ethernet Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:18:06 GMT Message-ID: <4gklre$165@miepmiep.HZeeland.nl> Can I make a sliplink between my two CHLnet systems? I'm using ethernetcars in both 286-systems. At this time I can only use the tcp/ip functions. 73 Leon Email:ljooss@mail.HZeeland.nl From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:11 1996 From: bm@lynx.ve3jf.ampr.org (Barry McLarnon VE3JF) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TCM3105 Source? Date: 22 Feb 1996 02:36:42 GMT Message-ID: Now that TI has discontinued the TCM3105 modem chip, it seems to have quickly disappeared from the usual distribution channels (Future, Arrow, JDR, etc...). Anybody know of a source that still has stock of these things? We're so far behind the cutting edge, we're now using obsolete modem devices... sigh. Barry -- Barry McLarnon VE3JF/VA3TCP Ottawa Amateur Radio Club Packet Working Group Email: bm@hydra.carleton.ca or bm@lynx.ve3jf.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:11 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: TCM3105 Source? Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:43:44 GMT In bm@lynx.ve3jf.ampr.org (Barry McLar non VE3JF) writes: >Now that TI has discontinued the TCM3105 modem chip, it seems to have quickly >disappeared from the usual distribution channels (Future, Arrow, JDR, >etc...). Anybody know of a source that still has stock of these things? >We're so far behind the cutting edge, we're now using obsolete modem >devices... sigh. When you can't get the chips, the alternatives are: - use lower-integration components. do the 2206/2211 still exist? - use another modem standard, presumably more spectrum-efficient I think the demise of the 3105 is a good reason to make your local users move to something faster... Rob +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:12 1996 From: Jim Irving Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Test : please dont read Date: 26 Feb 1996 21:33:02 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gt8ue$j1h@tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz> From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:13 1996 From: Jim Irving Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Test: please do not read Date: 26 Feb 1996 20:44:37 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gt63l$hs7@tpsun.taranaki.ac.nz> From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rdonnell@mail.eskimo.com (Robert Donnell - KD7NM) Subject: Re: using Macs to switch stuff on/off? Message-ID: References: <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 02:01:18 GMT scott@ioinc.tucson.az.us (Scott Forbes) wrote: >In article <4fu8fp$9mt@casaba.srv.cs.cmu.edu>, skoenig+@cs.cmu.edu (Sven >Koenig) wrote: >> I would like to use my Mac to switch a couple of low-voltage devices >> on and off. Are there any "cards" (Mac specific ones or, more likely, >> ones with a standard serial interface) that do just that? >> >> Also, where to look for AD/DA converters and relay cards? >> >> Every hint is appreciated... >> Thanks! >> Sven >Another possibility is the CP-290 X10 interface. It connects between a Mac >serial port and the power line to control up to 8 X-10 modules, including >relay modules. The software it comes with is pretty dated, but I saw that >is still being sold by: Actually the CP-290 can control all possible X-10 device addresses, and be configured as a timer. The 8-unit limitation is only for the manual keypad on the unit. It's timer capability is pretty flexible too. Yep, I have one here. Good luck Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:15 1996 From: ecgallup@mlode.com (Ed Gallup) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: using NOS for InterNet email ? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:45:31 GMT Message-ID: <4ggl9b$8os@news.wco.com> I have a dial up PPP Internet account. I had been wondering if there was any DOS programs which could take the place of my Winsock/dialer and mail programs which run under windows. I just realized that NOS ( I use GRI NOS at home) might likely do. Can someone tell me if I am correct, and how would I go about configuring NOS (in general terms should do) to accomplish this. I am somewhat NOS literate my no guru in it. I do have the NOSview book. Thanks. Ed ecgallup@mlode.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:16 1996 From: ecgallup@mlode.com (Ed Gallup) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: using NOS for InterNet email ? Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 02:46:35 GMT Message-ID: <4gglbb$8os@news.wco.com> I have a dial up PPP Internet account. I had been wondering if there was any DOS programs which could take the place of my Winsock/dialer and mail programs which run under windows. I just realized that NOS ( I use GRI NOS at home) might likely do. Can someone tell me if I am correct, and how would I go about configuring NOS (in general terms should do) to accomplish this. I am somewhat NOS literate but no guru at it. I do have the NOSview book. Thanks. Ed ecgallup@mlode.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:17 1996 From: rsnyder@advsys.com (Bob Snyder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What's PGP?? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 18:30:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1996Jan20.152846.11426@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Jan23.145717.28089@schbbs.mot.com> <4edaue$bki@news.accessus.net> In article , jyrih@cat.co.za (Jyri Hamalainen) wrote: > Use the European version when you find it. Speculation has it that the > US version has been doctored. Try a web search for PGP or RSA. If all > fails mail the sci.crypt news group. If that fails mail me and I'll ftp > you a copy with the windows frontend. I use it all the time for email. Based on the message-ids, I presume the original poster resides in the US, which means using the Euorpean version would cause a violation of RSA/PKP's patents, whereas the US version doesn't, since it uses RSA's kit to do the public key crypto. The European version is fine for outside the US (and Canada?) because RSA/PKP didn't patent it outside the US. You can get source code if you want it for the US version. People keep speculating that it's been doctored, and no one shows where. I would write it off as urban legend. PGP is available from http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp/ Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:18 1996 From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 Date: 21 Feb 1996 13:31:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4gfve5$9va@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4fmdil$6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg> <4fqgag$9mm@news2.deltanet.com> Thomas M Allen wrote: >daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote: >> Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for >>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should >>have ie. NORD>>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere >>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version. >WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The >"latest" is at least three years old, however. >-------------------------------------- >Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA Actually it is available in a programmed eprom from TAPR but not from the ftp site. It is available from ftp.ucsd.edu in /hamradio/packet/wa8ded. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:19 1996 From: dmadsen@iastate.edu (Dean R. Madsen KE0WO) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WIN-FBB..FTP site ?? Date: 23 Feb 96 17:50:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <4gj6br$i6h@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> In <4gj6br$i6h@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () writes: >Hello ALL >I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release. A number of people Do keep in mind that it is a beta evaluation release, which means the code may still have bugs and comes with few instructions. >have got it . A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were >posted onto an FTP site.... It will be put on ftp.funet.fi and other sites. It may be that the evaluation version is not ready yet. Some instructions as to what directories the various run time libraries and .DLL's should be placed will need to be written as well as how to report bugs when you find them. 73, Dean - KE0WO +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dean R Madsen, KE0WO Computer Science Major + + Internet: dmadsen@iastate.edu Iowa State Univeristy + + ke0wo@iastate.edu Ames, Iowa + + AX25: KE0WO @ KE0WO.#WIA.IA.USA.NA FBB Beta tester Cellist + + Secretary for the Tristate Amateur Packet Association + + Treasurer for the Cyclone Amateur Radio Club + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:20 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WIN-FBB..FTP site ?? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 02:46:22 GMT Message-ID: <4gj6br$i6h@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Hello ALL I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release. A number of people have got it . A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were posted onto an FTP site.... Can anybody help ?????? From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:21 1996 From: paul@skynet.co.uk (Paul Young) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WINPACK 5.40 Dis site UK Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:50:41 GMT Message-ID: <4gj7gs$1p5@mars.skynet.co.uk> Reply-To: paul@skynet.co.uk Hi all, as soon as Roger Barker updates WinPack the new version gets uploaded to "The Cellular BBS" +44 1604 757777 (3 lines all V.34) you can also leave messages for roger on the BBS the latest version is 5.40 uploaded by roger 07/02/96 all Winpack files are in file section 190 only roger can upload into this section so its allways 100% Cheers Paul.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Feb 27 20:01:23 1996 From: jmatk@tscm.com (James M. Atkinson, Communications Engineer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: Wiretapping and Telephone Bugging Web Page tscm.com Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:34:56 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: jmatk@tscm.com Keywords: Counterintelligence Debugging Surveillance Counter-Terrorism Finally the tools and test equipment page is finished, and we have updated our frequency tables/lists. Check out our updated tool and TSCM test equipment list. http://www.tscm.com/ http://www.tscm.com/tmde.html <--- TSCM Test Equipment http://www.tscm.com/tools.html <--- TSCM Hand Tools http://www.tscm.com/stu.html <--- Secure Telephones and Scramblers Upcoming Topics to watch for in March... Any interest?? Wired Microphones and Pinhole devices... tons of pictures The Computer Audio/Video Threat... tons of pictures Join us for a real world TSCM sweep... 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TSCM.COM 127 Eastern Avenue #291 Gloucester, MA 01931-8008 URL: http://www.tscm.com/ E-Mail: jmatk@tscm.com =============================================================== The First, The Largest, The Most Popular, and the Most Complete TSCM Counterintelligence Site on the Internet =============================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:21 1996 From: dmd@asimov.oit.umass.edu (Daniel M Drucker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap Subject: Wanted MFJ 1278 <---> Alinco DJ-F1T cable Date: 23 Feb 1996 11:39:18 -0500 Message-ID: <4gkqjm$1vs@asimov.oit.umass.edu> Wanted: MFJ 1278 to Alinco DJ-F1T cable. -- [ Daniel Drucker / dmd@student.umass.edu / N2SXX ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:23 1996 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Compiling WA8DED/NORDLINK The Firmware Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:06:53 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gkhl8$j3r@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Hi, I have managed to get some sources for The Firmware but do not know what compiler/assembler/linker I should use to compile this. I am trying to recompile a version of The Firmware to include support for the Dallas DS-1216 real time clock or some other real time clock. I would appreciate if anyone could furnish the information I need to compile my own version of The Firmware. From what I can make out of the makefile, they appear to be using a C compiler called QC or Q/C-Compiler and XAS as the assembler for the Z-80 code, and XLNK for the linker. Thanks. 73 de 9V1ZV Daniel Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:23 1996 From: daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Where can I find TheFirmware TF26? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:09:30 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4gkhq5$j3r@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Hi, I have now got TheFirmware TF27B and found that the MHEARD feature has been disabled. Since I want this feature, I am now in search of the last TF version with the MHEARD enabled. I think this should be TF26 but I cannot seem to find this anywhere. If anyone has a binary image of this (TF26 or its revisions a,b,c?) or knows where I can get it, I would really appreciate it. Furthermore, if the source code is available all the better. Thanks in advance. 73 de 9V1ZV Daniel Daniel Wee | daniel@pandora.lugs.org.sg 9V1ZV | daniel.wee@f516.n600.z6.fidonet.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:25 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: jangus@netcom.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) Subject: Re: Looking for the SP software Package Message-ID: References: <4giaam$2gpc@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:57:59 GMT larry@ (Larry Schroeder) writes: >Hello, >A friend of mine is looking for a software package called SP. It is suppose >to allow you to have more than one QSO at a time. If you have heard of it >and know where he can get it, let me know at the address below. >Thanks >Larry Schroeder >lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com >KD4HSL SP Version 9 was developed by: ESKAY - Siegmund F. Kluger Hard- and Software Richard-Strauss-Str 19 D-81677 Munich +49-89-45501080 or +48-171-400609 By the way, version 6 and earlier is available as shareware. Send me e-mail for more information. 73 es GM from jeff -- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "It is difficult to imagine our Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | universe run by a single omni- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | potent god. I see it more as a Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | badly run corporation." From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:26 1996 From: rkm@scanproj.raster.kodak.com (Rich Mulvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: data radio information please! Date: 23 Feb 1996 15:25:52 GMT Message-ID: <4gkma0$87t@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> <1996Feb22.173441.15497@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: rkm@scanproj.raster.kodak.com On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:34:41 GMT, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article <4gfooq$2pd@elmgate.raster.Kodak.Com> mulveyr@vivanet.com writes: >> >> You're limited to 300baud on the HF bands. > >10 meters is HF, and 1200 baud is allowed there. I know, big whoop. >With the sunspots as they are, 10 meters might as well be VHF. :-) > Good point - since I got my license near the bottom of the current sunspot cycle, sometimes I forget that there are bands above 17M. ;-) From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:27 1996 From: Bill Crocker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AEA Controllers, what's best? Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> I'm considering buying an AEA Multi-Mode controller. The two I've narrowed it down to are the PK-900 and the PK-232MBX. I've read the specs and I don't see a real big advantage in the PK-900 for the extra money. Also, it AEA's software the best , or should I look at others? AEA is also bring out a DSP (Digital Signal Processing) version of the PK-232. ..considering I have a Kenwood TS-870S with DSP, would this new model be worth waiting for? Thanks, Bill Crocker From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:27 1996 From: alubathsa2@aol.com (ALUBATHSA2) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Shuttle FREQ... Date: 23 Feb 1996 17:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <4glfvh$c1g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: alubathsa2@aol.com (ALUBATHSA2) Hello Everyone, WOuld any1 have a current list of ShuttleFREQS lying around the shack, seem to have lost my list.... Thanx in ADVANCE... 73's JEFF From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:28 1996 From: chrisk2og@aol.com (CHRIS K2OG) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Operating a TNC using the Kenwood 13 pin DIN plug Date: 23 Feb 1996 20:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: <4glppf$f9l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: chrisk2og@aol.com (CHRIS K2OG) Has anyone out there been successful in using the 13 pin DIN plug on either the Kenwood 440S or 940S? I am using the mike connections but would like to be able to run my radio from the back connection. Would appreciate any info you may have. Sgd. Chris K2OG From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:30 1996 From: michelg@sorel.mtl.net Newsgroups: alt.radio.college,alt.radio.uk.talk-radio,alt.rave,alt.revolution.counter,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.psychedelic,rec.music.artists.queensryche,rec.music.progressive,rec.music.reggae,rec.music.tori-amos,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: A new band on the Web, FIST-The Band Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:03:45 GMT Message-ID: <4glh7b$hve@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <4fc0q3$otn@shore4.intercom.net> <4ggppf$pvl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: michelg@sorel.mtl.net dog2000x@aol.com (DOG2000X) wrote: >I was wondering if you were aware of a band (very large at the time) from >the early 80's called FIST. I believe they were from Germany or Sweden. >They put out at least two fairly good selling metal albums, "Hot Spikes" >and "Thunder In Rock." "Thunder In Rock" was one of the coolest metal >albums ever produced. It was released, I believe, in late 1981 and many >of my friends purchased the same album. >That FIST toured with bands such as KROKUS in what was the original >"Monsters of Rock" in late '81 and early '82. >I am still a great fan of the original FIST and wondered if any of your >members were remaining members from that band or if you named your band in >dedication to those great metal warriors from the past? I'll politely ask how such a subject could be related to conter-revolution? No animosity (but a lot of questions!!!) Louis-M. Guilbault From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:31 1996 From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: FBB & MFJ1278 Date: 24 Feb 1996 00:20:44 GMT Message-ID: References: <4gblvn$n1o@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Reply-To: hg@n2wx.ampr.org On Tue, 20 Feb 1996 06:23:47 GMT, p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com wrote: : Hello ALL : : I am running an FBB system v515c, bpq4.06 and a single mfj1278 in kiss : mode. : : Problem is that the TNC goes BESERK every two days and totally screws : up !!. It looses its baud rate and is very difficult to reset.. : : Does ANYONE have any ideas ???? : Well, it would have been slightly helpful while you were entering version #s if you'd not stopped short of revealing the version # or better yet, the date of the EPROM image. -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx / From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:32 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 9600 radio recomendations? (was Re: data radio information please!) Message-ID: <1996Feb24.080419.21862@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4ge2ac$2ge@wizard.uark.edu> <1996Feb22.170038.15264@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4gipg3$s92@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:04:19 GMT In article <4gipg3$s92@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> ddenter@magi.com writes: > >OK, since the majority of the amateur type accepted radios don't do >very well at 9600, can someone recommend a commercial type accepted >radio that is easy to modify, cheap, and has good performance at >9600? I already know that the mitreks and maxar 80s work at 9600, >but how easy are they to modify? *No* amateur radios are Type Accepted. Now Mitreks and Maxars, as well as Micors, can be modified to *transmit* 9600 satisfactorily since they are crystal controlled direct FM. However, none of them have wide enough receive filters to give good BER performance. In fact this is a general rule with commercial Type Accepted radios, almost all of them have IF filtering that is too tight for 9600 baud. They weren't designed for that service, and narrow filters help in voice use against adjacent channel interference. But the narrow filters are phase non-linear in the bandpass of a 9600 baud signal, and that greatly increases BER, IE the eye pattern closes down due to phase non-linearity in the filters. At least the Maxar uses a standard 10.7 MHz IF and the ceramic filter can easily be replaced with a wider one from Murata. The Micor uses a non-standard IF and I expect that getting wider replacement filters for it would be difficult (I know of no source). Unfortunately, the Maxar is poorly shielded, and suffers greatly at a high RF site, though it's typically Ok at a user location. However, none of these radios have particularly good TR turnaround times (which is important to reduce latency at 9600 baud). The Maxar is diode switched, but it powers down the receiver strip during transmit, and receiver recovery time is long. That's ugly for 9600 baud performance. The modifications to get rapid receiver recovery are *not* trivial. At least with a Micor you can wire it so the receiver strip is always hot (one of the things that makes Micors desirable for repeater conversion). >I'm looking for a radio that will work well at around 445Mhz and with >at least 10W of power (I'd use the TEKK, but my signal is just a little >too weak to get into the repeater properly). Being a hidden transmitter >isn't a problem -- I'll be using a 9600 repeater. The Kantronics D4-10 would seem to fill the bill. It is 10 watts, and it is designed to be a 9600 baud data radio, so it has wide enough filters for good BER performance. (Note, in the commercial realm, Boeing contracted with RCA to have a bunch of TAC-700s modified for data use (wider filters etc). If you can find one of those (Alanet uses a bunch of them), it will also work, but the old RCAs tended to be deaf as posts, so unless you can live with needing 2 uV for 12 db SINAD, a preamp is almost a must. Repair parts are a bear to find too.) Since a 10 watt radio is only 7 db stronger than a 2 watt radio, a beam would seem the logical way to increase signal strength for a user station with a TEKK in a MAN using a digital repeater. A 7 db gain beam at 70 cm is rather small (and helps on receive too). The TEKK is small too, and could be mast mounted at the antenna to reduce feedline loss. I use the TEKK followed by a surplus 50 watt Motorola brick amplifier intended to be used with one of their HTs in a car. It switches fast enough to not add any significant latency. I expect some amateur bricks would serve as well, but I already had the Moto brick. This is for a simplex MAN where hidden terminals are a concern, so I'm forced to use an omni antenna. Summary: you can modify most crystal controlled commercial gear to *transmit* 9600 baud fairly easily (though GEs require greater mods due to being PM, IE you have to introduce the modulation into the Channel Guard port and modify the Icom to get enough deviation), but most of that gear won't *receive* 9600 baud very well due to too tight IF filtering in their receivers. In other words, one of the things that makes them work well in commercial voice service is the thing that hurts them most in data service. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:33 1996 From: gearloos@gnn.com (Gearloos) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KPC-9612 won't send signal Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:34:00 Message-ID: <4gpa9d$e4e@news-e2c.gnn.com> References: <4flrno$93e@news.midusa.net> Try checking the wiring on the tnc-to-radio mike plug(at the radio) take off the cover of the 8 pin connector and see if any wires have worked themselves loose! I have had this happen to me two times in about a year. Also check your drive level out from your radio etc... 73...GEAR. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:34 1996 From: mluther@tamu.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best? Date: 25 Feb 1996 08:17:02 GMT Message-ID: <4gp5tu$nkb@news.tamu.edu> References: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> <4gmcro$8tv@news1.exit109.com> <312F15BB.2049@mail.rust.net> Reply-To: mluther@tamu.edu In <312F15BB.2049@mail.rust.net>, Bill Crocker writes: >Scott: > >Thanks Scott! Your opinion is the majority by far! I think I'll take your a dvice and >get the PK-232MBX. > >You didn't mention what software you prefered...? > >Thanks again, Bill Crocker The software choice also depends on what operating system you are going to use! If you are going to multi-task and are using OS/2, you might note that the Free ware THS-OS/2 from Peter works very well on the PK232 and also the PK900 if you don't let it attempt to re-init the unit on call up. AEA's code does NOT work very well in OS/2 VDM sessions when used with more than one comm session on the box at the same time. It works better, at least it did for me, in DesqView, than it does under OS/2. I was told that one of the commercial TNC programs for the AEA line, other than their code also works well in OS/2 VDM sessions. Haven't had time to buy it and try it yet. I use the PK900 and am very pleased with it. I also have the PK96 and a PCB88 in other locations and all of them work well for what they were installed to do. Mike W5WQN as a guest at leviathan.tamu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:35 1996 From: Eddie Caffray Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 11:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: <31309167.2D1@magnum.wpe.com> References: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> Sherwin Lim wrote: > > Hello All... > > I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet > program. The registration cost US$79. > Please tell me what you think of the program, that is if you use the > program. > > thanks > sherwin I used it for about 2 days. It was a good program, but it was to hard to evalu ate with the limited use the programmer gives you. I was thinking of getting a reg code for it till I saw the reg fee! I thought it would be around 30$ tops, but I saw it was 79$, then rem oved it from my system. Eddie N2XDS From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:36 1996 From: Bill Crocker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: AEA Controllers, what's best? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 12:50:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3130A168.3D26@mail.rust.net> References: <312E40BA.958@mail.rust.net> <4gmcro$8tv@news1.exit109.com> <312F15BB.2049@mail.rust.net> <4gp5tu$nkb@news.tamu.edu> To: mluther@tamu.edu Mike: I've been thinking seriously about AEA's PK-900, but most everyone else says t he PK-232 is a more compatible way to go. Could you please give me some Pro's & Con's? Thanks, Bill Crocker From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: bburns@ridgecrest.ca.us (William Burns) Subject: info on Tandy 600 laptop Message-ID: Summary: looking for info Keywords: info, Tandy 600 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:56:05 GMT I have a Tandy 600 sort of laptop computer and would like to get it working. Does anyone have info on such a machine. Thanks Bill bburns@ridgecrest.ca.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:38 1996 From: moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Jnos under Desqview Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:30:20 GMT Message-ID: <4gqkc2$m2g@maureen.teleport.com> Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better... Dustin Moore moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:39 1996 From: moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Jnos under Desqview Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:33:28 GMT Message-ID: <4gqkhu$m6e@maureen.teleport.com> Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better... Dustin Moore moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:40 1996 From: moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Jnos under Desqview Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 21:35:03 GMT Message-ID: <4gqkkt$m71@maureen.teleport.com> Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better... Dustin Moore moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:41 1996 From: ingramdm@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Dave Ingram) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TCM3105 Source? Date: 25 Feb 1996 22:18:11 GMT Message-ID: <4gqn73$v5@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> References: Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote: > When you can't get the chips, the alternatives are: > - use lower-integration components. do the 2206/2211 still exist? The XR-2206 and XR-2211 are still available in Christchurch, New Zealand, so they should be available anywhere! For those in NZ, South Island Component Centre on St Asaph St. still stocks the parts. Dave. -- Dave Ingram -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect -- Masters Student, Power Electronics Research Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:42 1996 From: bob.miles@zetnet.co.uk (Robert G Miles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Siskin connections database? Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 23:27:00 GMT Message-ID: <4gqrc4$mlr@irk.zetnet.co.uk> Having seen the advert in RADCOM that SISKINS have a database for TNC-RIG connections, I logged on to their WWW page but cannot find said database! Anyone had any better luck? Am I missing something or wot! Bob GM4CAQ PS I need the connections for the Thor 2 port PC TNC card if anyone knows it. Also what interface for operating the PTT line? From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:43 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WIN-FBB..FTP site ?? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:04:50 GMT Message-ID: <4gqq0o$6cn@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> References: <4gj6br$i6h@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> <4gmfte$qou@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I appreciate that it may not be ready to release but we are ALL being swamped with pre-release information.. So the expectation has been set and we'd like to get a copy.... I saw the info in ftp.funet.fi again release notes. Lets hope it doesn't turn into a WIN95 or was that WIN96 ???? Look I understand that it is developed at no charge , no probs with that. Maybe you should hold off on the propoganda until you get closer.. dmeredith@phx-az.com (Daniel Meredith) wrote: >p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () wrote: >>Hello ALL >>I have heard lots about win-fbb and it's release. A number of people >>have got it . A lot more of us would like to get a copy if it were >>posted onto an FTP site.... >>Can anybody help ?????? >The Beta-Test version is still not yet out, you will be able to find >it on FTP.FUNET.FI when it is released. It will also be available >from the U.S. FBB SUPPORT BBS +1-602-912-0225 >Daniel From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:44 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Free classified Ads at Ham Radio Online Date: 26 Feb 1996 04:33:49 GMT Message-ID: <4grd7d$htp@news.accessone.com> We've added free "classified" ads to our freeware Ham Radio Online international "magazine" web site. We also have original feature stories, international ham radio newsletters, broadcast/SWL info, REAL-TIME world-wide propagation resources including MUFs, aurora, geomagnetic field conditions and tons more stuff. The March stories will begin by the end of the coming weekend. Stop on by and check out the new Ham Radio Online Interactive section - where you can add your own messages and your own ads, DX announcements, VHF band openings or whatever. Please enjoy, 73, Ed, KF7VY ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:45 1996 From: ssampson@telepath.com (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:30:28 Message-ID: References: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> <4gr82a$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com (Jeff McLeman) writes: >>I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet >>program. The registration cost US$79. >>Please tell me what you think of the program, that is if you use the >>program. >I paid the $79 and I think it is well worth it. I enjoy using it. >(I would love to see a Linux version.) 1. It is not a host mode program. It's like YAPP. 2. 79 dollars is way too high. Maybe 30 tops. 3. It's better than YAPP, not as good as host mode programs. I agree. He needs to spend more time with X-Windows and Linux, and less time with Windows :-) Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:45 1996 From: pake@lin.foa.se (Per-Åke Andersson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Problem TNC2 -> Terminal ? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 14:27:59 +0200 Message-ID: I have bought an old TAPR TNC2 which I am trying to connect to my old 7-bit ASCII terminal. But I have problems when monitoring the channel. The terminal get just crazy. Version 1.1.6 and 1.1.8 of firmware are tested. The problem is that I cant reject the controlcharacters and characters 127($7 F) and up with command MFILTER. I can only exclude 4 control characters. AEA PK-232 has a special command in MFILTER $80 which filters all characters above $7F and all control-char. except carriage-return($0D), linefeed($0A) and TAB($09). This works fine with my old terminal. Are there any version of firmware for TNC2 wich have this special MFILTER-comm .? Who has a solution to my problem ? /Per-Ake SM5BGO From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:46 1996 From: zz951281@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Digital Modes & CPCs? Message-ID: <1996Feb26.161459.6878@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es> Date: 26 Feb 96 16:14:59 +0100 HI all! I have this obsolete Amstrad CPC 464 (no disks, casettes) that still works, i was wandering if it could be possible to use it in PR, RTTY or any digital mode. I won't take my DX4 for a ride, when i can take the CPC. And anyway using a 486 for RTTY would be liking using a tank to deliver pizzas. hi hi Any help is welcome, thanks a lot. Alberto EB1CFL & EC1AJY (VHF/UHF & HF Novice) Ax25: EB1CFL@EA1URA.EAO.ESP.EU Email: zz951281@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:48 1996 From: ka1jy@usa.nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help reach repressed NE tcpipers! Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:02:16 GMT Message-ID: <3131d8c0.14549819@a3bsrv.nai.net> Reply-To: ka1jy@usa.nai.net The ip-ip internet gateway at gw.w1mx.ampr.org has been turned OFF in a (near) brilliant political/religious power-play! As I understand it, initially the gate was off due to some radio hardware failure. Pity. No one in my area (Ct.) knew anything about it. Next time there is a problem like this, I’d hope more folks would hear about it. There are many sources for RF gear and MANY willing donors if the word just gets around. Please make some noise if your corner of the network is failing! This is a minor concern however as the radio has already been replaced. Even still you will notice that no traffic is moving from other amprnet groups into the Emass/R.I./N.H. area previously served by the gate. The reason? The newly self-appointed government of the N.E.amprnet has requested that the gateway not return to the air until THEY can determine how it should function. Phew! Just when you thought the FCC already put too many regulations and restrictions on packet radio another group pops up choking off data flow with more rules and 'organizational-strategies'. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, the main explanation for shutting down the gate is that certain individuals 'believe' that amprnet should only exist in the ham-radio-RF world. In their minds any use of 'wire-networks' for the purpose of sending ham radio packet is somehow 'unclean'... This is nothing more than modern-day religious Puritanism. But, that's OK. To each his own. If there are those that believe amprnet should only be sent on ham radios owned and operated by hams that's kool, let them operate that way. I just resent having their 'beliefs' rammed down everyone's throat. This move to keep the gateway SHUT-DOWN until the issue can be PRIVATELY discussed and the exact functionality of the gate can be determined is nothing more than a political-strong-arm-power-play brought to you by the newly self-appointed n.e.amprnet 'government'. Were I the sysop of the gateway in Emass, I’d tell them to take their puritanical B.S. and stuff it. You want to TALK about how a specific gate or node should function within the amprnet system, fine. If someone's system is causing problems with traffic or flow, no problem, let's deal with it. THIS issue, on the other hand, is nothing more than a religious 'belief' issue and the newly self-appointed amprnet governors have just mandated all in their area become "believers". Like it or not. Ya know when you think about it, this was really a slick move. First, be sure to cut out the possibility of any discussion with other parts of the amprnet by isolating the guys using the gate, then pump the 'new political agenda' without opposition. Very slick. Turn the thing back on and let some discussion flow! If you disagree with this ‘back-room-power-play’ why not drop a note to one or more of the newly elected N.E.amprnet officials. I am sure they will welcome an honest and OPEN discussion of the issue. With the gateway down no traffic is flowing into the repressed area. If are in the area previously served by the gw.w1mx.ampr.org gate, please drop me a note. This action deserves some serious response. -be From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:49 1996 From: chrnadig@iiic.ethz.ch (Christoph Nadig) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for friends Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:48:15 GMT Message-ID: <4gtgrv$p0g@neptune.ethz.ch> Hi, I'm looking for friends here in HB9 doing digital comm. Please email me at chrnadig@iiic.ethz.ch or, BETTER chris@nasoft.pr.net.ch Cheers, Chris -- chrnadig@iiic.ethz.ch From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:51 1996 From: kurpiers@hades.uet.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de (Alexander Kurpiers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Where to get latest WA8DED/NORD for TNC-2 Date: 27 Feb 1996 07:57:30 GMT Message-ID: <4gudha$u3u@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <4fmdil$6kr@lantana.singnet.com.sg> <4fqgag$9mm@news2.deltanet.com> <4gfve5$9va@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> In article <4gfve5$9va@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nie lsen) writes: |> Thomas M Allen wrote: |> |> >daniel@pandora.lugs.po.my (Daniel Wee, 9V1ZV) wrote: |> >> Can anyone tell me where I can get the ROM images for |> >>the latest WA8DED hostmode firmware (and whatever else I should |> >>have ie. NORD> >>about these and can't seem to find the TNC-2 version anywhere |> >>although some archives seem to have the TNC-1 version. |> |> >WA8DED's host mode firmware is available on the TAPR ftp site. The |> >"latest" is at least three years old, however. |> |> >-------------------------------------- |> >Thomas M. Allen | Brea, California USA |> |> Actually it is available in a programmed eprom from TAPR but not from |> the ftp site. It is available from ftp.ucsd.edu in |> /hamradio/packet/wa8ded. The NORD> For Sale - Kantronics Kam Plus - Mint Condition - asking $250.00, less than 10 hours of useage, includes all cables, power supply, manuals and boxes. If interested you can contact me by email at ppickens@cris.com or call me at 9 01-377-6704 after 6:00 PM CST. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:53 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Shuttle FREQ... Date: 27 Feb 1996 17:04:00 GMT Message-ID: <4gvdi0$2hh@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4glfvh$c1g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Amsat maintains a list at: For those of you in the Denver area, check our Web page for the list of repeaters that we carry it on. ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/cra_news.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:53 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Radio Pages Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:34:21 GMT Message-ID: <31334b19.2657010@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk The local server recently changed its DNS number. Some people have complained they can't access my pages any more. You should be able to find them under: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ but if not, instead try: http://194.176.128.13/~asperges/ and it should work. This is the new DNS address. The pages contain info of interest to Radio Amateurs, Radio enthusiasts and Short Wave listeners. * There are links to many other pages, newsgroups, ftp etc; * A mock exam; * Questions and Answers for newcomers; * IRC links * Links to Friends on the Net (mostly homepages involved in radio) * The new Short Wave Listener pages with links to Broadcasters on the Net. * The Russian link; * Sources for help; There will be new updates in March. 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:55 1996 From: Bob Rushby Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: MFJ-1276 & PACTOR Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3133CD7E.75ED@hookup.net> References: Gary Wilcox wrote: > > Help > > I just got a new MFJ-1276 TNC and am trying to get it to do > PACTOR. I have it hooked up OK because I can do regular HF packet but > when I type PACTOR at the cmd: prompt I get nothing. The TNC will echo > everything you type but it never gives the p_cmd: prompt. The only way > to continue is to power off and back on. What gives? > > tnx es 73's GaryHi Gary. First: make sure you are in command mode (Control-C usually does it) Second: type Mode Pactor (mode PTL also works) third: have fun! Pactor is a great mode 73, Bob VE3GLA -- ====================================================== Bob Rushby rushby@hookup.net 76135.176@compuserve.com ====================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:55 1996 From: cbrown@eng.ohio-state.edu (Curt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNC Query Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:51:33 GMT Message-ID: Hello. I have a generic TNC question. I am in the market to buy one, and would like to know the difference between a Katronics KPC-2 and a KPC-3. Both offer KA-Node, 32K ram, PBBS, WeFax, Kiss and host mode to name a few. I know the KPC-3 will run off an internal battery, but other than that, what is the difference between the two? The 2 is $159.95, and the 3 is $109.95...what gives?? TIA, & 73. |=================================| | Curt, cbrown@eng.ohio-state.edu | |=================================| From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:56 1996 From: Carl Morgan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Operating a TNC using the Kenwood 13 pin DIN plug Date: 27 Feb 1996 23:41:46 GMT Message-ID: <4h04rq$3ptd@rose.muohio.edu> References: <4glppf$f9l@newsbf02.news.aol.com> To: chrisk2og@aol.com Yes. My KAM is connected via the data connector. Initially connected to a `440S and now a `850S. Works great! On the latter (850S), I'm using the FSK (RCA) connector for all HF modes except packet. RX selectivity is better although I do have to take a quick look (on SSB) before initiating a call. If you need the connections, E-Mail me (don't post; I don't see this group often). The `850S setup is a little different from the `440S in that the former has a pre-amp for the AFSK signal before being applied to the modulator and the `440S does not. Not familiar with the `450 or `870S. Go for it. Although soldering to the 13-pin DIN is no picnic, the effort is, I think, worth it. 73 <> Carl K8NHE From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:57 1996 From: ecgallup@mlode.com (Ed Gallup) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNC problems with Win95 install Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 03:42:54 GMT Message-ID: <4h0isk$2od@news.wco.com> When installing Windows 95, the install program interrogates all ports to identify what's connected to them. I would suggest that you turn off your TNC when installing Windows 95. It interrogated my KAM plus and screwed it up. I had to do a hard reset to reactivate it. No big deal, but who needs the headaches. Ed WB6SAT ecgallup@mlode.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:58 1996 From: i.a.cameron@open.ac.uk (Ian Cameron) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: IPIP Gateway? Help needed. Date: 28 Feb 1996 09:01:11 GMT Message-ID: <4h15kn$27r@clyde.open.ac.uk> References: <312B17DD.7C84B144@nhnfe.uscc.com> In article <312B17DD.7C84B144@nhnfe.uscc.com>, thavens@nhnfe.uscc.com says... > >A few years ago I was going to setup a ax.25 gateway from the Internet. >I obtained some info from ucsd.edu, and was working on it, however, I >got caught up with other things, and was unable to complete the project. >I have relocated since then, and am now trying to find some data on what >is being done today. Can anyone point me towards the coordinating body, >and data on IPIP, or whatever gateway process is being used these days.? > >My email is: thavens@nhnfe.uscc.com > >Thanks. > ftp://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/gateways You should be able to find a FAQ, and the current resource list. Hope this helps. Cheers and 73, Ian G0TLB. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:02:59 1996 From: les@rfx.rfx.com (Les Dittert) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FTP thru high speed packet : what rate do you get? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 09:50:44 -0800 Message-ID: Does anybody have a rough idea of actual measued bytes/sec transfer rate with a given packet setup ? What is the best expected rate for 9600 ? 19,2 ? 56 ? I'm trying to gauge the actual speed for file transfers , rather than latency for the connections when you hit CR when 'typing' to somebody. Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA. les@rfx.rfx.com http://www.rfx.com/folks/les "Question MTV" From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:00 1996 From: web@vivanet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: APRS-PK900/AEA Packratt for Windows question Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:57:52 GMT Message-ID: <4h1glk$da3@vivanews.vivanet.com> Do you run AEA's Packratt for Windows with a PK900 when you run APRS. If so, can you tell me how to make sure the PK900 will beacon your position after shutting the program and computer down? I've tried entering the time beacon time on the APRS shutdown menu, changing the Restore.TNC file, and setting up the BE time in the Windows program but nothing works. I just want to beacon my position to other APRS users when the computer is off. 73, Warren web@vivanet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: dmobley@encore.com (Dennis Mobley) Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:07:01 GMT Message-ID: References: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> <4gr82a$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> <4gsvme$eun@news-2.csn.net> KaWin is worth the 79 bucks. It has alot of very nice features and it works. Stan Huntting the author has put a great deal of effort into this package. KaWin is a HOST mode KAM TNC package and I use it with KAM+ Rev8, KAM 9612 and KPC3 with no problems. In fact if I had the serial ports, I could run all three at the same time. One point, if you have a system that is less then 8 megs of memory and/or less the a 486 then the performance might be a bit slow. System I have tested KaWin on... 1. 386sx 4megs W3.11 Slow but works 2. 486dx2 8megs W3.11 Work very well 2. 486dx2 8megs W95 Work very well 3. P100 8megs W95 Work very well 4. P90 32megs W-NT Work very well Dennis Mobley KT4FI Sunrise, FL From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:02 1996 From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Site for Winpacket 5.40 Date: 28 Feb 1996 16:22:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4h2o2p$de@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <31326231.12137359@news.mindspring.com> jes@cbus.mindspring.com (Eddie Seymour) wrote: >Anyone know a good (fast) ftp site for WinPacket v 5.40? >Know it's on Amsoft but this site is sloow!! THANKS >Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE >E-Mail jes@cbus.mindspring.com >Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam ftp.tapr.org in tapr/software_lib/terminal/winp540.zip From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:02 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ricky Scott) Subject: Re: TNC Query Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:58:07 GMT Curt (cbrown@eng.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : Hello. : Both offer KA-Node, 32K ram, PBBS, WeFax, Kiss and host mode to name a : few. I know the KPC-3 will run off an internal battery, but other than that, : what is the difference between the two? The KPC-2 is a full sized full featured packet TNC and is designed for home or digipeat site use. The KPC-3 is a small lightweight TNC that is much smaller and lighter in weight than the 2 and will run about 6-12 hours (depending on use) on a alkiline 9v battery or run on a 12v power pack. Ive used it several times as a mobile TNC. I have owned both and like them both. So you might try to take a look at the two of them and decide which is best for your situation. Hope that helps. -- Ricky J. Scott I dont speak for my company and they do not speak for me We like it that way and so do their Lawyers. From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:04 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: ranger@eskimo.com (Richard Berndt) Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232 Message-ID: References: <4ftpn4$mis@news.sas.ab.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:43:32 GMT choffman@pelican.davlin.net (Charles Hoffman) wrote: >Gilbert, I have NOT been pleased with the AES PAKRATT II for myself >nor for my clients to whom I have supplied copies. I do believe the >PKGOLD is excellent for most applications and you will find the >company is MUCH better with customer support...you CANNOT count on AES >to stand by their customers with product support or backing up their >ad promotions either. Boy another paided voice for InterFlex. Infact I believe and so does others here in Seattle area find their LACK-OF support for their products worse then AEA. AEA has been of more help the InterFlex . They have not even answered E-Mail or faxes on upgrades to Versions we HAVE paid for. >gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote: >>I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR . >>Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports >>about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program? >>Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES. >>-- >> gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca AEA as taken more time to help us thatn has InterFlex. Richard N7VWJ Ranger@eskimo.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:04 1996 From: Jeff Hilton Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: For Sale: KPC-9612 Date: 28 Feb 1996 21:50:59 GMT Message-ID: <4h2io3$7ja@news.midusa.net> Hello, I have a KPC-9612 for sale. Only a month old, barely used, and have every thing that came in the box. Possible trade for KPC-3???? Asking $175.00 or best offer. My email address is notrf@midusa.net 73's Jeff, notrf@midusa.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:05 1996 From: Albert Sole Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for FWD via E-mail Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:23:03 GMT Message-ID: <4h2kk7$r1h@minerva.ibernet.es> Hi all. I am looking for a forward partner (especially on VK, VE or ZS) via electronic mail. Please, send me a message before to make nothing! 73 de Albert, EA3PB@EA3PB.EAB.ESP.EU E-mail: asole@readysoft.es From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:06 1996 From: dmeredith@phx-az.com (Daniel Meredith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Address for FBB Mailing list. Date: 28 Feb 1996 22:25:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4h3dbd$ndu@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <0000ecycyisg.0000cusegoqy@sma.gov.au> Reply-To: dmeredith@phx-az.com MHooley@sma.GOV.AU wrote: > I remember seeing a mailing list for FBB users, > BUT I have lost the subscription/ mailing address. > Can someone let me know please. > Regards, Merv. (VK3KAW@VK3KAW) F6FBB-LIST@PHX-AZ.COM SUBSCRIBE <----- SUBJECT From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:07 1996 From: kjones@sun-link.com (Ken Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:25:10 GMT Message-ID: <3134d051.3929667@news.netrax.net> References: <4ftpn4$mis@news.sas.ab.ca> Once upon a time, ranger@eskimo.com (Richard Berndt) wrote (at least in part): > >Boy another paided voice for InterFlex. > Well Richard, I have to stand up for Interflex. You might very well have some problems, but I want to tell you about my experience. See if you can get this response from any other developer. I bought PK-Gold for my own use at home here, and have been famously pleased (around here, anyway) with the results. Shortly after getting used to the program (no command channel, no stream switch, each QSO on its own screen, canned text, autoresponding to callsign,etc etc) I determined that the Only Way to do packet at Field Day was to run Gold. I stuck the appropriate exchange text into an "Alt Key message" location, a greeting into the connect message, and a nice closing blurb in another altkey message. I was geared up. This was Friday afternoon. Field Day started Saturday. Friday night, as I was getting my stuff together, I decided to try it on the air. I changed the MYCALL from KB3JA (me) to W3MUM (the club) and away we went! WRONG! Gold stopped operating. Wrong callsign, not registered! I spoke a few words. Grasping at straws, I called the Interflex telephone number at 11:30 PM Friday night, got their recorder and begged, pleaded, and probably complained loudly (but I've forgotten that part) for some help. I was crushed. All this prep and I can't use the club call. I was resigned to using Yapp. Yikes. Guess what? They Called Me Back At Almost Midnight and explained the procedure, why they do it like that, and Gave Me The Code to use with the club call! On a Friday night! At midnight. Right before Field Day! (We got the 100 points, BTW. Piece of cake.) Now I know midnight my time is nine PM their time, but that does not detract from their helpfulness. On a Friday night, to get anybody to respond at all is fantastic, but to get a return call And a solution at nine o'clock his time is just outta' sight. That's the kind of people at Interflex. I recommend their products every time I get the chance. They will always have my business, and I hope you give them yours. 73 Cheers, Kenneth F. Jones ( mailto:kjones@sun-link.com ) ( CIS:73135,1243 ) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:08 1996 From: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it (Fabrizio ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FWD VIA E-mail Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 16:58:44 GMT Message-ID: <4h4oro$86r@sirio.cineca.it> Reply-To: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Hallo all de IW3RXV Fabrizio in Italy...I search the forward ...i'm collaborator the IV3AVQ bbs ...TNX and 73 de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ !! ****************************************** IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio E-mail addr.:f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Ampr. addr. :iw3rxv@s55tcp.ampr.org AX25 addr. :IW3RXV@IV3AVQ.IFVG.ITA.EU ****************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:09 1996 From: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it (Fabrizio ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FWD WHIT ITALY Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:01:38 GMT Message-ID: <4h4p15$86r@sirio.cineca.it> Reply-To: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Hallo ALL de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ BBS , i search the e-mail forward , whit all side europe.....TNX de IW3RXV _ BBS collaborator From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:10 1996 From: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it (Fabrizio ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FWD WHIT ITALY via E-mail Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:01:43 GMT Message-ID: <4h4p19$86r@sirio.cineca.it> Reply-To: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it I'a collaborator of IV3AVQ bbs based in Italy Loc. JN66OB , i serching a forward friend all over the europe...TNX de IW3RXV ****************************************** IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio E-mail addr.:f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Ampr. addr. :iw3rxv@s55tcp.ampr.org AX25 addr. :IW3RXV@IV3AVQ.IFVG.ITA.EU ****************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:11 1996 From: Jaggi@cvrc.med.upenn.edu (Jurg L. Jaggi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Bell 202 vs 212A Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 17:43:43 GMT Message-ID: <4h4okm$p65@netnews.upenn.edu> Hi folks, I am trying to set up (explore) PMP (poor man's packet radio program) which utilizes a Bell 202 modem. Since I have several old 212A's, I am wondering if one could use two 212A's (one for each direction) to emulate a 202 without any internal modification. This presumes that Bell 202 and 212A modems the identical with the exception that the 202 is half duplex only. Am I totally off here? Any suggestion to "convert" a 212A into a 202? Tnx, KB2WKX, Jurg From lwbyppp@epix.net Fri Mar 01 21:03:12 1996 From: UnBombEr Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Software??? Date: 29 Feb 1996 19:36:53 GMT Message-ID: <4h4v8l$ckp@antares.en.com> What is a good packet program to start with?? Thanks, KC8AGT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:38 1996 From: ssampson@telepath.com (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Jnos under Desqview Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 20:05:12 Message-ID: References: <4gqkkt$m71@maureen.teleport.com> moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) writes: >Hi I'm looking for the executable of a version of JNOS that will run >under Desqview. This is of course in the hopes of creating a more >perfect union between Desqview, G8BPQ, and W0RLI bbs software so >if it had the BPQ hooks that would be all the better... Hell. What a waste. JNOS already has a BBS. Why not get off the 1985 BBS circuit and into the 1990 circuit - TCP/IP. How many people really read those boring BBS systems anymore? Everything is WW and never of any value. It's time you dragged your users into the IP way of doing things. It's really sad to see someone waste their time trying to cram megabytes of bullshit into a machine, and then try to squeeze it through a NetRom circuit (another obsolete circuit). Here's the right way: 1. Throw away ROSE. 2. Throw away NetRom 3. Throw away BBS 4. Get an X-1 chip and set it up for TCP/IP, turn off NetRom. 5. Get JNOS and run it to your TNC. (9600 or greater). 5a. Get Linux up and running, and run JNOS on it. Don't use TNOS, it's 1985 technology, and going backwards. Try Kernel AX.25, but it's pretty damn buggy. Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:39 1996 From: Jeff Goebel Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help with old Dos 3.10 Date: 26 Feb 1996 00:58:10 GMT Message-ID: <4gr0j2$3vr@news.rrnet.com> I did a stupid thing and deleted my Command.com for Dos 3.1 from the root directory and then shut the computer off. (I was trying to upgrade the Dos version on and old 8088 machine.) I only have a startup disk for Dos 2.0 and it won't give me access to the 2 20meg hard drives on the machine so I can get things going again. Can anyone tell me how to do this or can anyone send me a copy of Command.com for Dos 3.10 so I can get started again? I do have the rest of the Dos on my hard drive I just can't get at it. The computer is a IBM 5150. Thanks Jeff Goebel N0VHB e-mail packet From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:40 1996 From: jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com (Jeff McLeman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Is KaWin (host packet program) worth it? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:00:42 GMT Message-ID: <4gr82a$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> References: <4goin8$d7v@knot.queensu.ca> Reply-To: jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com 4sl25@qlink.queensu.ca (Sherwin Lim) wrote: >Hello All... >I am deciding if I should register KaWin. KaWin is a host packet >program. The registration cost US$79. >Please tell me what you think of the program, that is if you use the >program. >thanks >sherwin I paid the $79 and I think it is well worth it. I enjoy using it. (I would love to see a Linux version.) The latest update has some pretty cool enhancements. Jeff -- KD1IT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:41 1996 From: jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com (Jeff McLeman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS not receiving - help. Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:00:53 GMT Message-ID: <4gr82l$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> References: <9506231544.AA26587@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> <3ses32$1v5@gazette.tandem.com> Reply-To: jeffmc@jeffmc.seanet.com ronz@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU (Ron Zastovnik) wrote: >In article <3ses32$1v5@gazette.tandem.com> kf5mg@computek.net writes: >>In <9506231544.AA26587@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU>, ronz@csufresno.EDU (Ron Zastov nik) writes: >>>Running JNOS110j on a 286 and 486 and I cannot get it to receive data from >>>the tnc. It seems to transmit my ID Okay, but nothing is received, not eve n >>>when I set tracing on. When I run KA9Q's NOS, everything works okay. My >>>autoexec.nos for jnos is about the same as for NOS except that the commands >>>that JNOS does not use are removed. >>> >>>Does anyone have any clues to why JNOS does not receive? I have gone >>>through all of my doc's searching for an answer. >> >>Make sure that you have >>param port dtr on >>param port rts on >>where port is the name of the port. If you don't set these to on, JNOS >>will Xmit, but not receive. >> >>73's de Jack - kf5mg >>Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 >> / work - jsnodgra@ttsi.tandem.com - work (214) 516-6270 >> / misc - kf5mg@computek.net - metro(817) 481-7182 >>PBBSnet - kf5mg@kf5mg.#dfw.tx.usa.noam - for voice mail >>+=========================================================================+ >>+ I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + >>+=========================================================================+ >I now find out that the actual problem is that trace does not work. >It does receive okay, but nothing is displayed on the screen when >trace is on. (trace tnc0 111). Works fine on nos. So my question >now is why does my trace not work? >-- >---------------------------------------------------------- >Ron Zastovnik, Tech Support (ron_zastovnik@csufresno.edu) >Cal Stata Univ Psychology Dept., Fresno, CA. 93740-0011 >----------------------------------------------------------- Did you hit F9 to go to the trace window? Jeff -- KD1IT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:42 1996 From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Ramsey Packet Modem Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 03:31:18 GMT Message-ID: <4gr9iu$peq@axe.netdoor.com> References: <4glu16$otl@tamarack.cs.mtu.edu> elschemm@mtu.edu (Evan L. Schemm) wrote: >I recently dug out my old Ramsey Packet Modem to use as a second TNC. >It works fine with the BAYCOM software that came with it, but I want >to use it for something else (and possibly not on a PC). >Does anyone know of any source code for the BAYCOM program, or anything >similar? I tried hooking it up and letting a generic terminal program >listen, but nothing came through. I suspect that it needs something >more. You might find some info at http://www.baycom.de/index.html but I don't think the source code is available. PacComm is the US distributer I believe. Baycom modems will run in NOS programs if support is compiled in. The JNOS versions I'm familiar with have baycom drivers. Also I think the SP program works with baycom modems. Gene WA4WBI From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:44 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help with BPQ under WIN96 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:19:25 GMT Message-ID: <4grg09$i6q@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Hello ALL I have a problem with BPQ under WIN95.... P.S I use BPQ v4.08 If I setup an async port under BPQ and then start win95, everything works OK..I can then run winpac 5.4 and it works fine, out of the serial port. I connect this directly to my FBB system and all is ok. Now, my problem is that I want to run it via ethernet.. My sequence of events are as follows 1) Boot WIN95 machine 2) Break out of BOOT and goto DOS 3) Load LSL.com 4) Load ce2ODI.exe - XIRCOM Credit card adaptor 5) Goto BPQ directory and run odidrv 200 I test this process by loading the switch program and it works great.. Now the fun starts !!! 1) I now type in WIN and I do NOT get the BPQ message. 2) I start Winpack, it DOESN'T complain that the BPQAPI driver isn't loaded. 3) I try a manual connect and there is NO activity on the ethernet.. When I type in "WIN", after 5 seconds the adaptor beeps, telling me that the card is being initialised. I think that is part of my problem, but the other odd thing is that the BPQ message doesn't come up when using an external driver.. Does anyone have any ideas.. I am using the driver supplied by the card vendor.. Is there an issue here with real mode drivers ??? I know you MUST load the BPQ switch in dos before windows comes up as per the Winpack v5.4 doco. This appears to be a catch 22 as the win startup re-initialises the card.... Thanks for your help !!!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:45 1996 From: bsanders@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 2-Meter Handhelds ~= Amateur Cellular? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:31:24 -0500 Message-ID: Please pardon my starry-eyed naivete and dream along with me, if you will... What I'd like to know is this: What sort of testbeds or infrastructures are in place (anywhere) that allow for hand-held radio xcvr's to be used for anything even remotely resembling cellular-like service? What I mean by this is: * Origination of telephone (POTS) calls through local repeater(s). * Signalling for incoming calls (I have no idea how this would work, except using a conventional pager setup in tandem w/ hand-held xcvr, or some kind of very sophisticated hand-held with a coded ID.) * Tracking of location within range of xcvr and repeater with notification of weak signal (or even possibility of auto-switching to another repeater?) If you follow what I'm getting at here, it would require a lot of sophisticate d software and possibly some specialized hardware at the repeater side ( which would actually be a little bi-directional wireless-to-telco gateway.) I'm not a HAM (of any stripe - yet); but I have had several HAM friends who have instructed me about the capabilities of various flavors of XCVR's, RF amps., RF bands, antennas, repeaters, etc. Anyway, my expertise is mostly in computers and TCP/IP networking concepts. I'm envisioning an automated system for voice communications using hand-helds in tandem with POTS telephone service (as outlined above), and would be grateful for *any* comments, suggestions or "other feedback" (preferably via private email to save bandwidth in this group). Don't just tell me I'm crazy - tell me WHY ;) Apologies if this posting is inappropriate. I tried to find the most appropriate amateur radio newsgroup. This seemed like the one. Thanks for any help. Barry BTW: My intentions are fully non-profit. I'm very much against the commercial domination of our public airwaves. My vision is for a system that allows cellular-like convenience for licensed citizens on public- access RF bands using off-the-shelf hardware of modest cost, and organized by local volunteer organizations. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:46 1996 From: jimbo@panix.com (James C. Brost) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KPC-3 PBFORWD command? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 13:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4glkpu$3ce@dec-alpha.fred.net> In article <4glkpu$3ce@dec-alpha.fred.net>, wilson@fred.net (Wilson Small) wrote: > hi all.. > > I noticed a command called PBFORWD when I hit the '?' on my Kantronics > KPC-3 TNC.... I can't find this command in my reference manual .... > can anybody tell me what this command is supposed to do? > > thankx > > wilson Look at the Document for the 5.1 upgrade. You must set HTEXT first, then you can use this to foward messages in MYPBBS to a local PBBS set in PBFOWARD. -- jimbo@panix.com (Internet) KB2WDI@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA (AX.25 Packet) kb2wdi.ampr.org [44.68.36.83] (TCP/IP Packet) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:47 1996 From: Jim Daneke Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: FS:2m HT Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 15:48:27 -0700 Message-ID: <313238BB.6955@ix.netcom.com> References: <4gnqbm$a1d@buffnet2.buffnet.net> To: edmund emich edmund emich wrote: > > ADI AT-200 2m HT > 5w, 130-168 Mhz RX > TX 144-148 Mhz , Mars/CAP capable > 20 mem,CTCSS,DTMF,SCAN,CSC,PAGING,CALL,ect. > Very small, only 2" at hand hold. > NEW ONLY $199.00 > Call (716) 853-1931 > EMAIL microtec@buffnet.net GREAT DEAL. Why pay $165 for the same model NEW at HRO with a warranty when you can buy it used from this guy? LET THE BUYER BEWARE! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: choffman@pelican.davlin.net (Charles Hoffman) Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:23:01 GMT Reply-To: choffman @pelican.davlin.net References: <4ftpn4$mis@news.sas.ab.ca> Gilbert, I have NOT been pleased with the AES PAKRATT II for myself nor for my clients to whom I have supplied copies. I do believe the PKGOLD is excellent for most applications and you will find the company is MUCH better with customer support...you CANNOT count on AES to stand by their customers with product support or backing up their ad promotions either. gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () wrote: >I have just upgraded my PK232 and need new software to be able to use PACTOR. >Up to now I was using PAKRATT II but I have read a lot of good reports >about PKGOLD, Could anyone tell me which is the best program? >Thanks and 73 de Gilbert, VE6GES. >-- > gsanial@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:49 1996 From: pjk@beefheart.nai.net (Pete Keyes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: JNOS not receiving - help. Date: 26 Feb 1996 17:51:04 GMT Message-ID: <4gsru8$nci@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <9506231544.AA26587@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> <3ses32$1v5@gazette.tandem.com> <4gr82l$dku@kaleka.seanet.com> Reply-To: pjk@beefheart.nai.net Or try "strace off" -- pjk@beefheart.nai.net * This is Another Fine Myth You've Gotten Me Into!!!* Lor L. and Har D. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:50 1996 From: Leon Heller Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Siskin connections database? Date: Mon, 26 Feb 96 21:41:40 GMT Message-ID: <825370900snz@lfheller.demon.co.uk> References: <4gqrc4$mlr@irk.zetnet.co.uk> Reply-To: Leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk In article <4gqrc4$mlr@irk.zetnet.co.uk> bob.miles@zetnet.co.uk "Robert G Miles" writes: > Having seen the advert in RADCOM that SISKINS have a database for > TNC-RIG connections, I logged on to their WWW page but cannot find > said database! > > Anyone had any better luck? > > Am I missing something or wot! > > Bob > GM4CAQ > > PS I need the connections for the Thor 2 port PC TNC card if anyone > knows it. Also what interface for operating the PTT line? Isn't the Thor 2 similar to the Sinclair QL? Siskin used to have details of the QL connections, and some packet software for it. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM | "Do not adjust your mind, there is E-mail leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk | a fault in reality": on a wall Phone: +44 (0)1734 471424 | many years ago in Oxford. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:51 1996 From: d91gerca@isy.liu.se (Gert Carlsson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Winpack PGP-server, where? Date: 26 Feb 1996 23:51:37 GMT Message-ID: <4gth29$9ab@newsy.ifm.liu.se> Does anybody know if the PGP-server for Winpack 5.40 is available for download via anonymous ftp? Gert E B Carlsson E-mail: Gert@Ctrl-C.LiU.SE SM5LWC From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:52 1996 From: trandall@mhv.net (Thomas Randall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Shuttle FREQ... Date: Tue, 27 Feb 96 01:36:02 GMT Message-ID: <4gtn8u$4ho@over.mhv.net> References: <4glfvh$c1g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <4glfvh$c1g@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, alubathsa2@aol.com (ALUBATHSA2) wrote: >Hello Everyone, > > WOuld any1 have a current list of ShuttleFREQS lying around the >shack, seem to have lost my list.... Thanx in ADVANCE... > >73's > >JEFF WA3NAN - 3.860 7.185 14.285 14.295 21.390 21.395 28.650 In N.Y. I get them best on the first 2 on a SWL radio. On a Ham HF rig their 20 over. Tom Tom Randall Amateur Radio - KB2SMS trandall@mhv.net Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL Member: AAVSO Solar Division Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:53 1996 From: jes@cbus.mindspring.com (Eddie Seymour) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Site for Winpacket 5.40 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 01:48:27 GMT Message-ID: <31326231.12137359@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: jes@cbus.mindspring.com Anyone know a good (fast) ftp site for WinPacket v 5.40? Know it's on Amsoft but this site is sloow!! THANKS Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail jes@cbus.mindspring.com Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:55 1996 From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Difference between host and terminal modes? Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:06:46 -0800 Message-ID: <313499B6.74C1@lamar.colostate.edu> Could someone tell me what the difference is between "host" and "terminal" modes in TFPCX? ttfn fiz (KG0YG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:57 1996 From: Mike Berg Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AD-4 deviation meter tip Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 10:24:55 PDT Message-ID: AD-4 Deviation meter installation tip. Purchased a AD-4 analog to digital board from PacComm ($50) to add the deviation meter feature to our area TheNet X1-J4 node. After installation I was unable to get any range from the meter reading. Most of the problem was because the radio I was interfacing to had a fixed audio output and as I was to find out, the input level to the meter ciruit is critical. Another confusing detour is in the docs, where it says you should see a 10 volt p-p at the output of the 324 op amp. Looking at the circuit diagram and the scope trace shows a more realistic 4v p-p. The incoming signal's peaks must just clip the upper rail - no more or all the readings become compressed near one figure. I used the prototype area included on the board to mount a 10k trimpot, with one end grounded, the other connected to the tnc rx audio. Input to the deviation meter is taken off the wiper terminal and can be adjusted to optimum. Since the board is inside the tnc case, the setting is protected from inadvertant changes. There's one more trimpot in the circuit located between the 324 op amp and the A/D chip. Docs say that it's to scale to input to below 3 volts - not a problem as I measured 1.4v to the A/D input with open squelch noise and the trimpot at max. Set up in this manner, the deviation meter offset (meter command) at 45 gave the most accurate readings for me. Docs reccomend 47 as a starting point. All in all, a very good investment. 73 Mike N0QBH From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:58 1996 From: Stefan Rosenhall Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help with BPQ v4.08 under windows Date: 28 Feb 1996 17:21:28 GMT Message-ID: <4h22uo$1ur@mn5.swip.net> References: <4h01q4$loe@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () wrote: >Hello ALL > >I have installed BPQ ver 4.08 on my bbs hoping to get it to run under >windows. Here is where the fun starts > >1) BPQCFG compiled ok >2) BPQCODE loaded ok.. >3) Start win3.11 (G8BPQ message comes up when windows starts) >4) Start FBB >5) Windows says that a dos application is trying to take control of a >comms port. I can't seem to get furthur than this.. > >I have placed the .dll and.386 file into the windows system directory >as per the doco. What have I missed out on ?? It maybe simple but I >can't see it !!! Any help would be appreciated !!!! > >Cheers..Pete..vk2yx > Hi Pete! I guess you'll have to disable the comport from windows. Go to: controlpanel\ports\preferences and disable the comport from windows so windows can't find that port.... I' have done it myself.....i'm runing Winpack 5.4 + Bpq408a with a simple baycom-modem.....and it works just fine!! Good luck! 73's Stefan... From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 09:58:59 1996 From: Donnie Hagan Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: ORION TELECOM? Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:08:24 -0800 Message-ID: <31366A28.DCC@occ-uky.campus.mci.net> References: <4gon7k$itc@bubba.NMSU.Edu> Anybody had any dealings with these guys-good or bad? E-mail me please.