The World of Ham Radio CD-ROM From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!hookup!news.redshift.com!usenet From: Greg Pool Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Isn't it about time to re-organise BBSs ? Date: 1 Nov 1995 03:58:09 GMT Organization: Pacificon '95 Lines: 45 Message-ID: <476r8h$307@wing.redshift.com> References: <46t9a9$8v8@a3bsrv.nai.net> <470a3s$s9r@wing.redshift.com> <471oqp$eea@news2.ucsd.edu> <475m4e$qfj@mgate.arrl.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: red233.redshift.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: n7hpr@amsat.org Jon Bloom wrote: >brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) wrote: >>Greg Pool writes: >>>>Hmmm. Anybody read the July 1995 QST about building a packet radio >>>>version of a World Wide Web? >> >>Oh yeah, sure. At the current throughput of most packet channels, it >>would take most of the morning to paint the ARRL logo on your screen. >>I can just see people browsing around at that speed. First off, don't get cheap on us and expect to do see the Web on packet. Pay the money for a real connection to the Internet, but build your _own_ packet radio Web instead! Replace today's packet radio with HTML and hypertext. Don't include the ARRL logo and don't use the current throughput. Put on your experimentor's cap and get back to work! Just send ASCII text instead. >>Jeez, it would be faster to chip it into a stone tablet and tape it >>to a duck that waddles from one node to the next. Get real. Re-read the article, Brian; we don't want to go on the Internet. And just think if it were combined with spread spectrum... >OTOH, the authors of that article were quite explicit in saying they >were using 9600-bit/s links. And those fortunate enough to have a >56 kbit/s network in their area would find HTTP over the network >quite acceptable. Who knows, maybe this kind of technology will >encourage the growth of faster packet networks. > >------ >Jon Bloom, KE3Z | jbloom@arrl.org >American Radio Relay League | >225 Main St., Newington CT 06111 | > > Thanks, Jon! :-) As he said, we wrote the article to emphasize that with the creation of local packet webs (forget the Internet!) using high-speed digital links is only limited by your inactivity, not technology. We presented a recipe, now cook it. The question is not whether it _can_ be done, Brian, so please don't discourage anyone else with your pessimism. Why, I know someone doing this with 1200-baud and a Powerbook! Aloha+73 de Greg WH6DT From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!van-bc!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!not-for-mail From: jbarr@MCS.COM (James W. Barr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for Windows Packet program Date: 1 Nov 1995 11:07:16 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4789g4$2h0@Venus.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: venus.mcs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2 (KSD)] Hi! Does anyone have any suggestions as to a complete, easy-to-use Windows-based Packet terminal program? Any information would be GREATLY appreciated! '73 -- -Jim --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James W. Barr, N9ONL | Get the shareware version of Geoworks Ensemble at: Buffalo Grove, IL, USA | ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcsnet.users/jbarr/GeoPublish e-mail: jbarr@mcs.com | For IZL programming language for GEOS contact: | jferas@netaxs.com ------------------[ http://www.mcs.net/~jbarr/home.html ]------------------ From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!zen.dedal.fr.net!not-for-mail From: fbonnet@zen.dedal.fr.net (Francois Bonnet) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: What about PacCom PICOPACKET Date: 1 Nov 1995 11:42:36 +0100 Organization: Zenith Rtc Lyon / France 78361001 Lines: 11 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: zen.dedal.fr.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I would like to order a small TNC from France. Is PicoPacket a convenient one ? Something else: which 9600 bds TNC can I choose PacCom Spirit2, PK-96, ... Thank you and best 73 Francois F1ITT - Lyon / FRANCE fbonnet@zen.dedal.fr.net From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.bluesky.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!news.biu.ac.il!news.tau.ac.il!usenet From: mussali@shani.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PK-900 & Lan-link 2.32 Date: 1 Nov 1995 12:36:48 GMT Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center Lines: 5 Message-ID: <477pl0$m0l@post.tau.ac.il> Reply-To: mussali@shani.net NNTP-Posting-Host: teleport12.shani.co.il Keywords: pk-900 pk900 lan-link X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Hello PK-900 User's I just get my new TNC the PK-900 and I am try to work with Lan-Link 2.32. I get all the time error message. Did you work with PK900 and LL? Can you help me with SYS file of this program? De Shlomo 4x6lm From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech!psuvax1!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!ringer.cs.utsa.edu!lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu!tjenn From: "Terrance L. Jennings" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: baycom software Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:49:17 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at San Antonio Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does anyone know if there is a more user friendly baypac software around, maybe on the internet some where? something that runs on windows maybe? and can you run a baycom a dumb terminal? thanks terrance n5vzu [not to be confused with dan-n5pzu] From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!hookup!news.kei.com!news.ece.uc.edu!babbage.ece.uc.edu!news.gryffin.com!chi-news.cic.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!news.uh.edu!wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu!brad From: brad@wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu (Brad Killebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Internet & Packet radio Date: 1 Nov 1995 19:59:03 GMT Organization: Univ of Houston Ham Radio Club Lines: 15 Message-ID: <478ji7$3iq@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <472qbn$oen@chaos.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] a (DirkJanssens) wrote: : I'm looking for some FAQ's and other stuff for coupling internet (www,ftp,mail) : to a packet radio station. I can have al the nessecary hardware but I don't know : how to get it running...(This is all new to me!!). I use linux on the packet computer. : What other software do I need? How to use it? How to make the packetradio reachable : by internet...? Dirk, try http://www.lantz.com/ -- Brad Killebrew N5LJV Unix Systems Administrator brad@uh.edu, brad@cet.net UH College of Technology The Admin's prayer: "Our OS who art in CPU, UNIX be thy name. Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, in kernel as it is in version." From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!chrisss.demon.co.uk From: chris@chrisss.demon.co.uk (Chris Selwyn-Smith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Looking for Windows Packet program Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 23:09:32 GMT Organization: Landscape Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <815267514.19221@chrisss.demon.co.uk> References: <4789g4$2h0@Venus.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrisss.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: chrisss.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 jbarr@MCS.COM (James W. Barr) wrote: >Does anyone have any suggestions as to a complete, easy-to-use >Windows-based Packet terminal program? Any information would be GREATLY >appreciated! Try Winpak it's pretty new and has numerous useful features Chris Selwyn-Smith Landscape Services chris@chrisss.demon.co.uk G1RQZ Hampton Court From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:15 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.wildcat,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.bbs, Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!kb6axk From: kb6axk@netcom.com (Joe Cira) Subject: HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 02:45:21 GMT Lines: 48 Sender: kb6axk@netcom3.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:93857 comp.bbs.misc:26069 alt.bbs.ads:27005 alt.bbs.lists:16026 alt.bbs.wildcat:22458 rec.radio.scanner:40250 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12449 rec.radio.cb:24237 rec.radio.shortwave:65573 alt.bbs:53617 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Summary: Keywords: HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!! HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!! There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your ARRL/LAX affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ........... Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here, IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!! HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952.... 24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed....... running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!! cd/rom's soon and TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!! qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility mods,programs,test ques,lists,and more.... VEC/VE exam & class list for all So.Cal. sample exam tests and answers for all class's.. ARRL mirror of all there files ! Using Wildcat v4.11 software.. easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE ! 5,475 FILES IN 115 FILE AREA'S..so far ! ***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING********** ARE YOU ON THE HAM USERS LIST ??????? 73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC. INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> kb6axk@netcom.com /EX S -- US AMATEUR RADIO |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS| KB6AXK | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira | PASADENA,CAL,91107| kb6axk@netcom.com | From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cais.net!zippy.cais.net!wilson From: wilson@fred.net (Wilson Small) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Hostmaster? Date: 2 Nov 1995 03:00:04 GMT Organization: FredNet - Frederick, Md. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <479c7k$k4h@zippy.cais.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bigdog.fred.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] hi... have a friend looking for a program called 'Hostmaster' ... supposed to be some kind of program to allow him to interface his PC to his TNC... Anybody got any information on this program? Is it shareware or something that can be ftp'd from someplace?? is it windows or dos? etc etc.... he's looking for a windows program... he's tried the ones on the latest qrz cdrom but wasn't happy with them.... thankx wilson-N3OVS -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | wilson small (wilson@fred.net) snail: po box 1400 | | check key server for pgp key frederick, md 21701 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:25:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Isn't it about time to re-organise BBSs ? Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:44:59 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <479icb$a19@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <814018438snz@dowrmain.demon.co.uk> <46ibi4$21@cwis-20.wayne.edu> <46ofrs$2g2@news1.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com In article , David Kelly wrote: >In article <46ofrs$2g2@news1.ucsd.edu>, brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian >Kantor) wrote: > >> After all, NNTP was developed (in part) and documented by a ham. >> - Brian > >Great! That solved the NIH problem. Any new excuses? :-) Not so fast!! That "ham" happens to get paid to do network stuff, and we wouldn't want any professionals influencing amateur radio, now would we? ;-) -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usit.net!news From: Steve Martin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I never met a ham I liked. Date: 1 Nov 1995 00:40:38 GMT Organization: United States Internet, Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <476fm6$jl@news.usit.net> References: <46t3pj$p5g@alterdial.UU.NET> <473v18$3ma@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: bway-slip69.dynamic.usit.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) Would someone please explain to me what "the 'N' word", Quebecois secession, or African-American genealogical issues have to do with ham radio??? From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:13 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: A Label Past Its Time Message-ID: <1995Nov1.010505.20988@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <45a5dh$qnj$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <45bggb$efo@hg.oro.net> <45cu63$20o@crcnis3.unl.edu> <1401@heart_talk.win.net> <46oe3r$c2o@hg.oro.net> <46sf96$au7@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <1995Oct29.093407.4881@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <470dsd$i7t@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 01:05:05 GMT Lines: 39 In article <470dsd$i7t@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> mjsilva@ix.netcom.com (michael silva) writes: >In <1995Oct29.093407.4881@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary >Coffman) writes: >>Sure they demonstrate technical knowledge, not *much* technical >>knowledge of course, but certainly *some*. > >Theoretically you would expect this to be true, but I know directly of >many people who have passed the Tech written who have no detectable >technical knowledge. I think the reason for this is that there is a >threshold effect involved in learning our (or any other) technical >matter, and elements 2 and 3a are so simple that one can study all the >material in them without ever reaching that threshold where the >information "clicks" and becomes a unified whole in one's mind. The >gaps and simplifications in the Tech elements are so great that a >person who studies that material and no other will have knowledge that >is more anecdotal than comprehensive, and the latter is IMO a >requirement for claiming technical knowledge, as opposed to a >smattering of unconnected facts and rules tumbling around in one's >mind. Well, I suppose there are some people so dumb that they only look at the question pool. But that's surely the hard way to pass the tests. It's lots easier to read a book covering the theory and then you can simply derive the answer to any test question that may come along. The idea of memorizing the question pool seems like a ghastly amount of wasted effort to me. And you're right, if that's all you've done, you will have horrible gaps in your knowledge. Still, most people surely don't memorize the question pool as someone might a string of nonsense syllables. Surely they think about the question and answer just a bit, if for no other reason than to reduce the tedium. If they do, they're bound to accquire *some* knowledge. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: "James A. Storm" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Diamond Antennas - Still Around? Who Distributes? Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:04:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 5 Message-ID: <476kjn$4r4@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <9510311209.AA07946@star08329> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sf17-09.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Oct 31 6:04:39 PM PST 1995 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1PE (Windows; I; 16bit) To: pferris@galstar.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21046 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93820 Amateur Electronic Supply carries Diamond Antennas. Their main number is 1-800-558-0411. 73, WB6LWS Jim in Pacifica, CA From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ltec.net!news-admin From: John Ragsdale Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QSL info... Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:15:32 GMT Organization: Navix: Lincoln Telecom Internet Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <476l84$3o6@iac2.ltec.net> References: <475k3c$m8m@ci.ist.utl.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: xyp33p17.ltec.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: l38217@alfa.ist.utl.pt Try Lee R. Wical 45-601 Luluku Road Kaneohe, HAWAII 96744 From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect Date: 1 Nov 1995 03:07:50 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 25 Message-ID: <476oa6$hjc@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <"30-Oct-95..8:21:09".*.Anthony_M._Werdein.wbst139@Xerox.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com In article <"30-Oct-95..8:21:09".*.Anthony_M._Werdein.wbst139@Xerox.com>, wrote: >To Drew and all the rest, > > With all of this rambling on about Radio Shacks name policy on sales, >it just ain't so! The only thing you have to say when the sales person (Drew- >have respect for them) asks is NO THANKS. Thats all! Now if you are doing a >return, then they have to get your name. The sales person will not be offended >if you say no, but the most important thing is to treat the person as you would >like to be treated! You're missing the point, I'd say. I have said "No thanks". I've often been met with "C'mon, it just takes a second" and "we need it for our records", etc. While I believe all people should treat others with respect, I tend also to believe that sales people should go out of their way to avoid any kind of disrespectful behavior of customers. If I say "no thank you" and that doesn't end the subject, the salesperson is out of line. End of story. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:16 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: CQ on Repeaters. Correct? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 References: <46ej3b$h9h@antares.en.com> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:30:06 GMT Lines: 19 In article <46ej3b$h9h@antares.en.com>, browne@en.com (Mark Browne) wrote: -snip- >What is the proper way to call CQ on a local repeater? The way I recall, >CQ is only for HF. Please help. Thanks a lot.... -snip- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Here in the Seattle area, I've never heard anyone call CQ on a repeater. I do hear people say "is anyone around? W7XXX listening" or something like that. Often I will hear "W7XXX monitoring", but I never know if that is really a call for anyone to answer like a CQ is, or if they are just announcing that they are now on frequency so a specific station can call them. Personally I'd like to hear more CQing on repeaters, but I'm not one to buck the local traditions... :-) I do operate 146.52 simplex a lot, and I DO call CQ there and get a surprising number of responses, even mobile. 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwwi.com!nntpgate.primenet.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!usr2.primenet.com!n7xnl From: Rich Hall Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 07:46:55 -0700 Organization: Primenet Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> <179527062wnr@jhewitt.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: usr2.primenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: n7xnl In-Reply-To: <179527062wnr@jhewitt.demon.co.uk> Not to beat this subject to death, but there is a related article in the September issue of SAIL magazine on p. 56. I gives some pretty good illustrations and a not too technical explanation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Hall ...NOT the comedian! n7xnl@primenet.com rich.hall@amail.amdahl.com (ax.25) n7xnl@kc7y.az.usa.noam ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.mbnet.mb.ca!slmusr03 From: mike Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I never met a ham I liked. Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:13:22 -0600 Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <46t3pj$p5g@alterdial.UU.NET> <473v18$3ma@alterdial.UU.NET> <476fm6$jl@news.usit.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: access.mbnet.mb.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <476fm6$jl@news.usit.net> On 1 Nov 1995, Steve Martin wrote: > Would someone please explain to me what "the 'N' word", Quebecois > secession, or African-American genealogical issues have to do with ham > radio??? > Absolutely nothing !!! I should have ignored the original post, but I let my personal feelings on the matter get out of hand. You are correct in 'assuming' that we should ALL ignore those types of posts and not react to them (just like when you have someone annoying on a repeater, if you ignore them long enough, they will eventually go away). My apologies to this news group. Regards, Mike VE4KLM --------------------- | SLM Software Inc. | | slmusr03@SLMSoft.CA | --------------------- From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!uknet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:00:03 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 14 Message-ID: <815220003snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> <476f5s$6un@ukelele.qnet.com> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article <476f5s$6un@ukelele.qnet.com> bob_scott@qnet.com "Bob Scott" writes: > I thought it was. I found it to be a disappointment. The advanced was > much harder. Why? I have no idea. I have always advocated that the > Extra should be very heavy in theory and practice. Perhaps Part 1C provides a material part of the progressive testing for this particular upgrade? -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!cencore!forrest.gehrke From: forrest.gehrke@cencore.com (FORREST GEHRKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL - One *very* go˙˙˙˙˙ Message-ID: <8B42265.014C0114EC.uuout@cencore.com> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 10:13:00 -0300 Distribution: world Organization: Central Core BBS, 201-575-8991 Reply-To: forrest.gehrke@cencore.com (FORREST GEHRKE) References: <46utr3$87s@news2.cts.com> X-Newsreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Lines: 15 JB> But if you want to *do* something about what you perceive as a JB> problem, I have a simple suggestion: write. Write about cutting-edge JB> techniques, and do it often. If you're not filling the publishing JB> pipeline with the material you think needs to be published, you're JB> not addressing the problem no matter how many Usenet articles you JB> post. Hear! Hear! Well said, Jon, and to the point exactly. If someone has something new to write about, or old-but-ignored, send it in to a magazine--though there have been times when QST turned me down; "too technical" and I wound up in HamRadio. ;-) 73, --k2bt * RM 1.3 02583 * Imagination is more important than knowledge. - A. Einstein From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARES/RACES Date: 1 Nov 1995 11:01:20 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <477k20$28t@alterdial.UU.NET> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) las5s@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Lauren Schiff) wrote: >Hello... > > I am the communications officer for the Blue Ridge Mountain >Rescue Group located in Charlottesville, Virginia. We are part >of the Appalachian Search and Rescue Conference. Am I required to salute? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!leif!jcraig From: jcraig@kean.ucs.mun.ca Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Another Marconi Award/Event Date: 1 Nov 95 13:19:59 -0330 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada Lines: 16 Message-ID: <1995Nov1.131959.1@leif> NNTP-Posting-Host: leif.ucs.mun.ca NEW AWARD AVAILABLE / SPECIAL EVENT OPERATIONS On 12 Dec 1901, Marconi bridged the Atlantic by receiving the first transatlantic radio message on Signal Hill in St. John's, Newfoundland. To celebrate the 100th year of radio, a special QSL will be made available to any amateur or SWL who works/hears VO1AA on 12 Dec. this year. Please listen around 14.030, 7.030 (CW) and 14.300 (SSB) An award is being established for anyone who works/hears VO1AA on 5 or more anniversaries of 12 Dec. from this year to the 100th aniversary in 2001. Further announcements will be made at a later date. VO1AA and the awards are sponsored by the Society of Newfoundland Radio Amateurs. VO1AA also operates under the callsign VO1IMD on international Marconi Day each year. 73 Joe VO1NA From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.bluesky.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!utcsri!utnut!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!leif!jcraig From: jcraig@kean.ucs.mun.ca Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL help ... UA0KAJ Date: 1 Nov 95 13:39:35 -0330 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada Lines: 7 Message-ID: <1995Nov1.133935.1@leif> NNTP-Posting-Host: leif.ucs.mun.ca Are there any sites which have call book servers for DX callsigns? In the mean time, If anyone has an address for Tom, UA0KAJ, I'd certainly appreciate having it forwarded. Thanks and 73 Joe VO1NA From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ro.com!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!uni-regensburg.de!faui0n.informatik.uni-erlangen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.th-darmstadt.de!zib-berlin.de!news.rrz.uni-hamburg.de!news.dkrz.de!tubsibr!news From: ann@ifn.ing.tu-bs.de Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NEED HELP with QSLs from 90/91 (YASME, OH2BH, PA3CXC, OH3GZ, EA3CW)! Date: Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:59:31 GMT Organization: Inst.f.Nachrichtentechnik, TU Braunschweig, Germany Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <477ndc$jcp@ra.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: ifn22.ifn.ing.tu-bs.de Dear QSL 'guru', I am looking for QSL information on the following stations: Station QSO Date 2nd QSL 3rd QSL sent Address(es) tried ----------------------------------------------------------------- PA3CXC/ST0 4/90 4/95 9/95 PA3CXC CBA 94 T33T 11/90 4/95 9/95 OH3GZ CBA 94 ZS9/W6KG 11/90 4/95 9/95 YASME, WA6AKK QRZ-CD ZS9Z/1 12/90 4/95 9/95 OH2BH CBA 94 3C0CW 8/91 4/95 9/95 EA3CW, CBA 94 ----------------------------------------------------------------- I already had these QSLs in my possession but lost them when my registered small package to the DXCC desk disappeared in the US last year. About 25 QSLs have been retrieved by direct mail but the above listed cards are still missing (all time new ones, and no other confirmation). If you can provide ANY information, either positive or negative, on how to get back these cards, PLEASE let me know! Best 73! Uli, DL2HBX =========================================================================== Ulrich Ann (DL2HBX) | Internet: ann@ifn.ing.tu-bs.de TU Braunschweig | u.ann@tu-bs.de D-38092 Braunschweig | Packet Radio: DL2HBX@DB0FC.#NDS.DEU.EU =========================================================================== "The missing link ... is us!" Konrad Lorenz =========================================================================== From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 1 Nov 1995 14:17:09 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 30 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <478h3l$6ik@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org>, w1aw@arrl.org writes: >ARLB100 More requirement stays > >On October 23, the 1995 World Radiocommunication Conference, WRC-95, >opened in Geneva. As described in November 1995 QST, page 106, one >of the matters expected to be raised at the conference was a New >Zealand proposal to delete from the radio regulations of the >International Telecommunication Union the requirement that amateurs >demonstrate Morse code ability in order to be licensed to operate >below 30 MHz. > >On Tuesday morning, October 31, New Zealand offered its proposal in >Working Party 4C. While some other administrations expressed >support, most who asked for the floor either opposed the change or >said the time was not right and the issue needed further study >within the amateur community. > >Summarizing the discussion, the chairman of the Working Party said >that most comments opposed the proposal and that he would send the >matter to the Working Group of the Plenary, which is responsible for >agendas of future conferences, to consider adding it to a future >agenda in 1997, 1999, or later. This was acceptable to New Zealand. > > OH NO!!!! does this mean 2 more years of pissing and moaning about code vs. no-code??????? steve From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: V47 prefix Date: 1 Nov 95 14:37:59 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 4 Message-ID: <9511011437.AA00565@tix.timeplex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu For DXCC puposes, is V44 and V47 prefix (St. Kitts, Nevis Is.) count for one or two countries ? Seth, KC2WE From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!boingo.amil.jhu.edu!blaze.cs.jhu.edu!darwin.sura.net!news.er.usgs.gov!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!usenet From: Walter Zorn <1wz@ornl.gov> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Date: 1 Nov 1995 14:45:11 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Lines: 19 Message-ID: <47815n$83i@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> <476f5s$6un@ukelele.qnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.219.22.0 Bob Scott wrote: > > I thought it was. I found it to be a disappointment. The advanced was > much harder. Why? I have no idea. I have always advocated that the > Extra should be very heavy in theory and practice. Bob, et.al, I found the Extra to be easier than the Advanced - except for the code {Oh Well}. Anyway, I disagree on the "Very Heavy in Theory and Practice" statement. I feel that at this level, the class of license should be *primarily* rules and authorizations for the "Administration" of Amateur Radio Stuff - VE, Observer, etc. That is what it appears to be now, for the most part, and I like it that way. Resfectfully, Walt From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!connix.com!news From: pete brunelli Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Date: 1 Nov 1995 14:54:13 GMT Organization: Connix - The Connecticut Internet Exchange Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4781ml$fdp@comet.connix.com> References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcb.connix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) szhall@rocky.ucdavis.edu (Jeff Hall) wrote: > I understand that the extra is easier than the advanced..Why? I would >like your remarks and any short cuts..thanks..Jeff Well, Jeff, I think that this perception is pretty accurate. The Advanced has more concepts, and you could get a big slice of any one of them. The result is, if you are weak on vector conversion, you will get six of those on your advanced ;-( The Extra has alot of VE related questions, and I think it has fewer concepts in the question pool. It seems to be biased towards antennas and trnasmission lines. Use one of the freeware test generators to check your mastery of the material, and get more than one study guide. The ARRL and W5YI are worlds apart in their presentation of the question pools. 73 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Brunelli Amateur Call N1QDQ Check out http://www.connix.com/~pcb Home of the Rolling Thunder Contest Club Mobileering for a Better Tomorrow ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!wb3ffv!news.cais.net!news.charm.net!news From: Patrick Weeks Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 1 Nov 1995 14:56:04 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4781q4$t51@canton.charm.net> References: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: scriptor.cprinc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) THIS IS GREAT! I DONT WANT TO LIVE WITH OUT POOR MAN'S PACKET DOT DOT DOT DOT DOT DIT. From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.mathworks.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex.net!pipex!pavilion.co.uk!cedwards From: Colin Edwards Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Experience with HAMEG spectrum analysers ? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:37:20 +0000 Organization: Bespoke Project Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: am079.du.pipex.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 1.09 <+GnS2cv5e3$2e7XcB7EWpuSFQq> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11377 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93833 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21059 sci.electronics:158302 > >I would like to know if anyone here is familiar with the HAMEG 5006 series >spectrum analysers. Yes, I have one. It did cost nearly much as a second hand HP141 setup, but at least you can lift it. Basically - It works very well, but the lack of any sort of output means that you can't record readings. Even in the UK it took months to get one delivered. -- Colin Edwards From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!news.westnet.com!news-out.internetmci.com!internetMCI!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 16:55:07 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 15 Message-ID: <815244907snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> <179527062wnr@jhewitt.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article n7xnl@primenet.com "Rich Hall" writes: > Not to beat this subject to death, but there is a related article in the > September issue of SAIL magazine on p. 56. I gives some pretty good > illustrations and a not too technical explanation. Why would a reader of SAIL need to know the accuracy of the hight information given by a GPS receiver? -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!leif!jcraig From: jcraig@kean.ucs.mun.ca Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL Help... UA0KAG Date: 1 Nov 95 17:10:58 -0330 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <1995Nov1.171058.1@leif> NNTP-Posting-Host: leif.ucs.mun.ca Are there any sites which have call book servers for DX callsigns? In the mean time, If anyone has an address for Tom, UA0KAG, I'd certainly appreciate having it forwarded. Thanks and 73 Joe VO1NA From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: Advice on 2M mobile rig w Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 18:24:33 PST Message-ID: <8033-27888401@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 47 CL>I would second the vote on the 2500. I have two FT-2400's. One is run CL>mobile and the other stays at home. The 2500 is slightly updated from the CL>2400. Did have to install a DC line filter on my 1990 Ford Probe to get CL>rid of the alternator whine. Would recommend getting the optional CTCSS CL>Encoder and installing it before you install the radio in the car though. CL>About one year ago I (our club) purchased two 2500's to upgrade our packet CL>BBS. Haven't heard any problems from the trustee. CL>73, CL>Cliff K3LL CL>John Palinkas (john.palinkas@pcohio.com) wrote: CL>: Subject: Advice on 2M mobile rig wanted CL>: I have had the Yaesu FT-2500M for about 6 months now and I think it is a CL>: super radio. Intermod is really bad around here and the Yaesu is CL>: virtually extinct from it. I did alot of research before I got the CL>: radio because of severe intermod and as I said I am really happy with CL>: the unit. Great audio, easy to operate and always good reports on my CL>: transmissions. John. CL>: D>g wanted CL>: D>Message-ID: <1995Oct17.174343.4464@sfov1.verifone.com> CL>: D>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc CL>: D>Organization: VeriFone Inc. CL>: D>I'm in the market for a basic 2M mobile rig. Can spend about $350. CL>: D>I've heard good things about the Yaesu 2500. Reliability is key. I hav i'll third the reccomendation on the ft 2500. excellent rig. commercial quality. i've had mine now since april and there's nothing quite like it. the large frequency display is a nice plus and there's lots of imbedded bells and whistles built in. the CTCSS decoder board (CTCSS encode is standard) is a good addition to the rig, and highly reccomended. i use the rig for lots of outband reception (local sheriff and fire services ) and the sensitivity doesn't degrade once you go up past 148 by any noticeable amount. i'm convinced the innards are a VHF vertex mobile, with the exception being a different "brain" and control head for amateur use. wouldn't surprise me at all if the unit was type acceptable for commercial use. greg kd6ven From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!library.erc.clarkson.edu!curryds From: curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 1 Nov 1995 18:59:04 GMT Organization: Clarkson University Lines: 19 Message-ID: <478g1o$ipd@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: craft.camp.clarkson.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I recently recieved a speeding ticket in the state of New York. I was the only one on the road at the time and when he drove past going the opposite direction, my radar detector alerted and shortly after I was pulled over. He said that I was going much faster than i actually was because as soon as the detector went off i checked my speed. When i asked to see the inform ation on his radar equipment he said that there is nothing to see. He has to "estimate" the speed of my car and then activate his radar equipment which only displays a speed figure as long as i am in his "window". After that, the speed disappears. Now, don't these devices simply transmit a microwave signal and time the return? If so, wouldnt the signal bounce off trees and rocks and other such hard surfaces on the other side of the road? Would these indicate a speed on his display? Is there a "hold" switch on his display? Anyone knowing anything about the police radar that the New York State troopers use please respond here or by email. I drive a sports car and think that these people simply add 5 or 10 miles to the speed and then cant show you the results. Boy, that sure makes it hard to respect them. 73 David KG2EB From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: Unliscensed use Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 19:07:36 PST Message-ID: <8033-263827401@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 42 HE>: You're assuming that the sales droid behind the counter would know the HE>: difference (or care) between amateur radio and CB. This in itself is HE>: asking quite a bit. HE>: -Drew in Charlotte- HE>: KF4DDM HE>Just like you to blame everything on radio shack employees. Well, perhaps HE>you shoud think before you speak...3 out of 4 employees at the radio HE>shack I work at are Hams....In fact, I know alot of hams who work radio HE>shack. Obviously you are basing your opinions of radio shack on a few bad HE>experiences, or blaming us for things over which we have no control. HE>Guess what these are symptoms of? Ignorance. HE>P.S. It's unlawfull to require an amateur radio license for the purchase HE>of amateur gear, however illogical that seems. HE>Nate, KB9LSX sorry, nate. he is correct for the most part. the vast majority of radio shack stores, especially the ones out here in california are run by mindless high-school aged children and other youngins that have no idea what even a cb radio is half of the time. they can't ever answer any technical questions about much of anything (except for maybe stereo equipment because timmy has $2000 worth of stereo gear out in his car that he DIDN't get from radio shack!) i've had very similar experiences with the young salesdroid and his cohorts behind the counter trying to convince joe customer that he could get 2 htx202's to talk back and forth between his men on the construction site and not have to worry about interference because there are "...hundreds of channels more than on the cb and you can always find one hat's not being used by someone else...". yes, there are ham operators that work at radio shacks, but with there being 10 radio shack stores within 15 minutes of where i live, i've only run into a total of two. greg kd6ven From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!everest.pinn.net!everest!omega From: omega@pinn.net (Ken) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: contact for Yaesu-Musen? Date: 1 Nov 1995 19:12:07 GMT Organization: Pinnacle Online - Internet access for Hampton Roads, Virginia - 490-4509 Lines: 9 Message-ID: <478gq7$i5r@everest.pinn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: everest.pinn.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Can anyone provide me with a contact for Yaesu-Musen? I need service information for a radio. TIA -- Kenneth Martin IZCC DECUS SCCA 804.483.6052 23321-452117 USA omega@pinn.net From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.netins.net!mcrware.microware.com!dennisg From: dennisg@microware.com (Dennis Gabler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Date: 1 Nov 1995 21:14:22 GMT Organization: Microware Systems Corporation, Des Moines, Iowa Lines: 15 Message-ID: <478nve$pse@mcrware.microware.com> References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: wahz.microware.com X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) In <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> szhall@rocky.ucdavis.edu (Jeff Hall) writes: > I understand that the extra is easier than the advanced..Why? I would >like your remarks and any short cuts..thanks..Jeff I thought the extra was easier. The advanced is mostly theory and formulas. The extra was mostly rules and regs for giving exams. I also thought the advanced was more fun. 73's Dennis -- Dennis Gabler --o--------------------------=o=--------------------------o-- | dennisg@microware.com KB5HVN/NNN0BQG___________| KB5HVN@WB0UGO.IA.USA.NA From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:53:38 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 14 Message-ID: <479isi$le5@cc.iu.net> References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> <476f5s$6un@ukelele.qnet.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-5.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <476f5s$6un@ukelele.qnet.com>, Bob Scott writes: >I thought it was. I found it to be a disappointment. The advanced was >much harder. Why? I have no idea. I have always advocated that the >Extra should be very heavy in theory and practice. mine was...but in the dusty corners of the hobby...questions on sats and other stuff...the power triangle stuff was a snap, but it should be for anyone that made it to the junior EE level... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 2 Nov 1995 05:06:25 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 31 Message-ID: <479jkh$le5@cc.iu.net> References: <46obe0$1g6u@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <46p3te$j19@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <46troo$dlv@cyber1.servtech.com> <470ji2$qmj@cc.iu.net> <471mr2$emk@murphy.servtech.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-5.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <471mr2$emk@murphy.servtech.com>, billn@cyber1.servtech.com (bill newman) writes: >Just this past week two different state police officers were able to >purchase 2m handhelds to be used on the state police freq. here in the >Rochester area. They were told (I was with one of the officers) that >seeing that they were not going to be used on the Ham bands that the >radios did not have to be licensed. I thought that was strange and also I >was told at another RS store that the use on the police freq. was not >possible. I did see the radios in operation and I guess with a small >change the bands can be changed some. this is new - last i looked there was no way to change the coverage range on the '202 w/o external conversion or scrapping the guts. Again the clerk at this one store stated that the ham radios and CB >radios were the same. It is very interesting. sounds like the radio clubs need to supply some FAQs to the stores (reminds me, it's been a while since i've done that locally...probably time to do it again.) >I did receive the name and address of the local district manager and will >be sending out a complant letter this coming week. get 'em. if they really are using the htx-202 on police frequencies, maybe a note to the police radio folks might be in order. the '202 isn't OK for use as a police radio... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Fri Nov 03 12:28:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.accessone.com!ghansen.accessone.com!ghansen From: ghansen@accessone.com (Glenn Hansen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:11:03 GMT Organization: .tacoma.link Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <8033-263827401@inferno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ghansen.accessone.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article <8033-263827401@inferno.com> vector@inferno.com writes: >sorry, nate. he is correct for the most part. the vast majority of >radio shack stores, especially the ones out here in california are run >by mindless high-school aged children and other youngins that have no >idea what even a cb radio is half of the time. they can't ever answer >any technical questions about much of anything (except for maybe stereo >equipment because timmy has $2000 worth of stereo gear out in his car >that he DIDN't get from radio shack!) i've had very similar experiences >with the young salesdroid and his cohorts behind the counter trying to >convince joe customer that he could get 2 htx202's to talk back and >forth between his men on the construction site and not have to worry >about interference because there are >"...hundreds of channels more than on the cb and you can always find one >hat's not being used by someone else...". >yes, there are ham operators that work at radio shacks, but with there >being 10 radio shack stores within 15 minutes of where i live, i've only >run into a total of two. Greg, I can agree to some of what you say but here in Washington it doesn't seem that we have the same age group. The 'lost' Radio Shack employees I have delt with cross all age, race and gender groups. Up here it is like a disease, it doesn't care who it infests. Also, being helped by a licensed amateur doesn't always mean what it sounds like. Oh well. Go informed. If it wasn't for RS I would have lost a lot of time when I just needed a resistor, diode or some little thing. Hell, I would be just as happy if 7-11 put up a wall with blister packs of parts. Glenn From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hamkb8uum@aol.com (HAMKB8UUM) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ****** Need Help with Russian Call ********* Date: 4 Nov 1995 15:12:44 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <47ghfs$nm1@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: hamkb8uum@aol.com (HAMKB8UUM) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Is there any stations out there especially Russian stations who could help me find out who's callsign this is. The call is UV7CDY and he should be located in Ukraine is there anyone out there who can tell me his address. Thank you very much for your help please e mail me at HAMKB8UUM@aol.com 73, KB8UUM From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!mr.net!news.mr.net!wavefront.com!usenet From: Kirk Prodzinski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 4 Nov 1995 15:41:22 GMT Organization: WaveFront Communications, Inc. Lines: 2 Message-ID: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lumts-1-04.luminet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Anyone know when 10 is supposed to open up again ? From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.bluesky.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!composer.inav.net!news From: Bruce Goldstein Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 5 Nov 1995 17:48:18 GMT Organization: Internet Navigator, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dip29.inav.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Kirk Prodzinski wrote: >Anyone know when 10 is supposed to open up again ? > In these times, the FCC has had to save some $ and have been turning off the propagation generators for many hours of the day. (Sometimes they make some minor modifications to the generators and turn them on without formal notice -- Instead of listening on 10M, Give a CQ. You never know who is also listening!) - 73 From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.tcst.com!op.net!news.fyionline.com!news-out.internetmci.com!internetMCI!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nrtphba6.bnr.ca!bnr.ca!harp From: harp@bnr.ca (Alan Harp) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 6 Nov 1995 15:44:36 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nrtpq018.bnr.ca In article <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> Bruce Goldstein writes: >From: Bruce Goldstein >Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? >Date: 5 Nov 1995 17:48:18 GMT >Kirk Prodzinski wrote: >>Anyone know when 10 is supposed to open up again ? >> >In these times, the FCC has had to save some $ and have been turning off >the propagation generators for many hours of the day. (Sometimes they >make some minor modifications to the generators and turn them on without >formal notice -- Instead of listening on 10M, Give a CQ. You never know >who is also listening!) > > - 73 > Yeh and alot of these no-code techs have a secret code that they can key in on the touch-tone pad that turns off 10M. **************************************************************************** * Alan Harp K4PB * Bell-Northern Research * CW FOREVER * * mail: harp@bnr.ca * Research Triangle Park, NC * * **************************************************************************** From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!slip3-27.acs.ohio-state.edu!fergus.8 From: fergus.8@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark D. Fergus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 2M VS 70CM?? Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 23:04:47 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <60.47007.4727.0N1FC78B@canrem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip3-27.acs.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] In article <60.47007.4727.0N1FC78B@canrem.com> chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) writes: >Hi. I currently use a Kenwood TM241A, with a 5/8 magnet mount on the car, >and a very small 2m beem on the house, about 35 feet off the ground. I am >fed up! I am mainly tired of overcrowding, and incredible amounts of >intermod almost everywhere! >How much is 440 MHZ used these days? When I had a scanner years ago, I >thought it was quite dead compared to 2m, but things may have changed. >Also, assuming all variables are the same (ie. putting out 45-50 watts to >5/8 antenna), what are the performance differences between the two bands? >I may escape the intermod by switching to 440, and be able to have higher >gain but smaller antennas then those on 2m, but do the bands perform >radically different from each other? >Anybody with any thoughts on this matter? >Thanks, >Chris. >Internet: chris.smart@canrem.com Fido: 1:229/15 Chris, Here in Columbus, Ohio, 2 meters is very crowded. There are no more 2 meter frequencies available for 2 meter repeaters. On 440, however, there are several repeaters but none are very active. They are nice to get on and chat without worrying about someone else needing the repeater. 440 is different in that it is a much higher frequency. Therefore, the antennas are smaller. The wavelengths go through walls much easier; 440 is ideal for inside use. On the other hand, DX is usually rare. Occasionaly I have heard a repeater in Ft. Wayne, Indiana but was unable to reach it with 5 watts. I'm sure if I had 45W I'd do a lot better. So if you're looking to escape from the activity on 2 meters, give 440 a try. It's less active and there is much less intermod. 73's de N8VJF Mark From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: twise@ix.netcom.com (Travis A. Wise) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sbay.hams Subject: 4sale: new 2m mobile Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 18:08:39 GMT Organization: The Office of Travis A. Wise Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47ga73$nkn@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: twise@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sj12-27.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 04 10:08:35 AM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50283 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93873 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21105 sbay.hams:107 I have a brand new, never used, 1 month old Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile radio for sale. Includes two VFO's, 50w, manual, wiring, microphone. Never used. Make an offer, no trades please. Travis, KB8FOU twise@ix.netcom.com Travis A. Wise twise@ix.netcom.com http://www.isc.sjsu.edu/b/students/twise/index.html From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:06:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sbay.hams Subject: Re: 4sale: new 2m mobile Date: 5 Nov 1995 01:44:02 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <47h4t2$hev@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47ga73$nkn@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: twise@ix.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50327 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93896 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21117 sbay.hams:108 -- #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!ccnet.com!rwilkins From: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sbay.hams Subject: Re: 4sale: new 2m mobile Followup-To: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sbay.hams Date: 5 Nov 1995 11:40:58 GMT Organization: home in the cAVe fishing for burts Lines: 19 Message-ID: <47i7sa$kvn@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <47ga73$nkn@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <47h4t2$hev@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccnet3 X-Ray: doc cant find anything but rasist one-liners on burts chart X-YL: all I get are sexist one liners Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50350 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93906 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21126 sbay.hams:109 Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) trying hard to say less and less, wrote in <47h4t2$hev@alterdial.UU.NET>: : -- : #================#=====================================================# : | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | : | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | : | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | : #================#=====================================================# : | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | : #======================================================================# Hey burt what did you want? a 4WD mobile or were you just kerchunking... From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: A story Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 19:30:28 EST Message-ID: <8036-25650603@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 19 Well I have at least one story to tell related to a spark transmitter. When I was stationed at Otis AFB I had a lot of trouble sleeping because the guy in the barracks near me played his AM radio real loud. So I hooked up a buzzer to my 40 meter dipole and wrapped the buzzer in a blanket (to silence the SOUND) and when he played the radio I turned on the buzzer destroying his station. After several days of this I offered my "help" suggesting that playing the radio too loud caused it to "oscillate", he played it lower and he had no more problems. Burt Fisher K1OIK -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: A word to wise Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 19:30:27 EST Message-ID: <8036-256517902@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 25 A wise old owl lived in an oak, The more he saw, the less he spoke, The less he spoke, the more he heard. Why aren't we like that old bird? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) or call 508- 385-3427 and download from file area 21 (free). -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!usenet From: jsollows@direct.ca (Jim Sollows) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Any Icom IC25A Mods out there?? Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 17:09:49 GMT Organization: Internet Direct Lines: 8 Message-ID: <47ir0j$8cg@grid.Direct.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.174.244.70 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Does anyone know if there are any mods available for the IC25A. I've checked the most popular "mods" archives on the net without any luck. I am particularly interrested in an extended receive mode for this radio. Replies via e-mail would be appreciated. Thanks. Jim VE7JLS From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!news.citynet.net!news From: Steven Craddock Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: APRS HELP! Date: 5 Nov 1995 19:20:19 GMT Organization: DigiTech Security Controls, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <47j2pj$9nb@news.citynet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp173c.citynet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: S.Craddock@pobox.com Can anyone tell me which files I need to download to utilize the GPS Tracking program of APRS (I have a PC, DOS & Windows). I have found a ton of files and programs. Some Im sure are old. Everything listed like: aprs74b.zip ???? I wish to get the latest software to use. Can you help? Please E-Mail me at: S.Craddock@pobox.com Thanks 73 KB8IAM Steve From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:05 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!wb6w From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: ARES/RACES Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 09:54:46 GMT Lines: 48 Sender: wb6w@netcom10.netcom.com Lauren Schiff (las5s@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU) wrote: : Hello... : I am the communications officer for the Blue Ridge Mountain : Rescue Group located in Charlottesville, Virginia. We are part : of the Appalachian Search and Rescue Conference. : I would like to get in contact with ARES/RACES coordinators : primarily in the state of Virginia, but also West Virginia, : Maryland, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. What I am trying : to do is put together information for our OPS kits, so that we : know who to contact for additional assistance during search and : rescue emergencies. Use of repeaters in local areas would also : be beneficial. : If anyone knows who I can contact for this information, it : would be great if you could e-mail me at lauren@virginia.edu : Thanks, : Lauren Schiff : KB8WLD : Blue Ridge Mountain Rescue Group : -- This is the kind of information a well organized and coordinated ARES organization would be able to provide in a minute. The only problem with this is that a few well meaning but sadly mistaken RACES supporters have been insisting that each jurisdiction have its OWN cadre of volunteers and that NO HAM volunteer for more than one agency. This leads to a situation where the opportunities for cross training and familiarization with different disaster service organizations is kept to an absolute minimum. The final result of this is that the synergy that might've been obtained is lost and a ready pool of TRAINED operators is not available. Worse, when a major incident occurs for one organization, they do not have a trained pool of communications volunteers to draw on, even if the people exist because many of them, perhaps the vast majority, are registered with and trained by some other organization that takes a VERY propritary view of their volunteer resource. The result is that ARES/RACES does not function anywhere near as well as it might. The ultimate losers in this are then the general public that the disaster service organizations are alleged to be helping. Glenn Thomas wb6w From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 4 Nov 1995 12:37:24 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 12 Message-ID: <47fmq4$99q@cc.iu.net> References: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-13.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net>, Stephan Rashkin writes: >Please have some compassion for those AFFIRMATIVE ACTION CLASS operators, you talking trash about Techs or about the guys with code waivers? (sounds like he needs a dose of Sam Kinnison in his life. Bitter? AHHHHHHHHH!) Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.midwest.net!itc.com!med!alb.med.itc.com!abraun From: abraun@alb.med.itc.com (Alan Braun) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 13:49:27 GMT Organization: P.I.C. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <95110449767@alb.med.itc.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: poplarbluff5.midwest.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit comments: ============================================================ This system is using a SHAREWARE version of UPS. If you notice this system using the shareware version longer than 21 days, jump all over them for not supporting shareware! ============================================================ UPS is a UUCP to NNTP/SMTP/POP3 gate for BBS programs that only support UUCP. Contact itcc@ldd.net if you need information on this product. ============================================================ X-Mailer: Genesis [v7.2, SR# G00006919] In Article ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) writes: > There will then be indorsements. I envision a linear endorsement, certified > by at least 5 others so indorsed. I envision a repairmen indorsement, > certified by at least 5 others so indorsed. I envision an Emergency > indorsement. You get the idea. Your peers will indorse you, and you will > not be authorized to operate in any mode not indorsed. > > This makes it a team effort, a non-cheat effort, and probably a lot more fun > than isolating yourself, and studying a stupid book that has all the answers > so you can be a "super-class" and spit on all those "sub-class." > It would also make it into a popularity contest, where you would have to be "one of the guys (gals)" to get your endorsement. Without OBJECTIVE standards, clearly defined ahead of time, and not subject to the whims of personal likes & dislikes, such a proposal would be a farce. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Alan Braun MD, NS0B/V31EV * Internet: abraun@alb.med.itc.com * * Jefferson City, MO * Packet: NS0B@N0LBA.#cemo.mo.usa.noam * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gfarobin@aol.com (GFA Robin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Autopatch rules Date: 4 Nov 1995 16:18:20 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 7 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <47glas$oka@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: gfarobin@aol.com (GFA Robin) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Can anyone tell me where, besides the FCC rules, I can find information on Autopatch rules. It was my understanding that QST did an article a while back on it, but I don't have any old issues. I have searched a few Internet addresses, but haven't found anything either. The version I have read in part 97 was about as clear as mud :( Robin, KB9LAC From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:09 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Blind hams and radioshack From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47151.4727.0N1FCCD3@canrem.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:03:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Have any blind hams out there used or tried to use the Radioshack ham equipment? I'm thinking about buying one of these radios, specifically the HTX404, and would hate to end up with something extremely hard to use. Thanks, Chris. ve3 sht chris.smart@canrem.com, ->crs, 1:229/15 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMJz7ENZU0fzBPqHhAQGjTAP/UN4HkiWgiJjBFiPT+clmqQ2cmOsPrIvH tLwoVUtDi1z4GOH+BCKHRqAQMdDb4z2OOcZVSjkhpeouhkfceReyxsTeuXu6AHif vQ9xlzswRU1wbBgWA64bODmN+qu/CrtVuce7nk2DWq07B+RNMRAq7rXqZjz8xAgW QSFWAZkYmMs= =BLXR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!nntp.crl.com!A119020 From: jwc@a.crl.com (James W Chandler III) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can an Advanced get a 1X3 Vanity Callsign? Date: Sun, 05 Nov 95 13:59:29 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Lines: 15 Message-ID: <47ig01$as0_001@sat1.as.crl.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: a119020.sat1.as.crl.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article , ibmemp@azstarnet.com (John W. McClain) wrote: > When the FCC gives the go-ahead, I would like to request a specific 1X3 >callsign but I don't know if my Advanced ticket allows me to get a 1X3. Does >anyone have an answer? > The latest vanity rules I saw allows an Advance class holder to get a Group B,C or D license, so you should be ok. Good luck and 73. Jim Chandler, N0VAH jwc@a.crl.com 1024-bit Key fingerprint = 74 B4 7C BF 51 ED A6 00 F5 2C 6E 99 A7 0D 29 D2 2048-bit Key fingerprint = 82 30 8D 56 43 22 3A 2F 4D EA 37 DE B9 B4 21 52 From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!dsm6.dsmnet.com!dsm1.dsmnet.com!MIKEMILLER From: mikemiller@dsm1.dsmnet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can an Advanced get a 1X3 Vanity Callsign? Date: 6 Nov 1995 06:16:08 GMT Organization: DES MOINES INTERNET, DES MOINES, IA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47k978$g3g@dsm6.dsmnet.com> References: Reply-To: mikemiller@dsm1.dsmnet.com NNTP-Posting-Host: dsm1.dsmnet.com In article , ibmemp@azstarnet.com (John W. McClain) writes: > When the FCC gives the go-ahead, I would like to request a specific 1X3 >callsign but I don't know if my Advanced ticket allows me to get a 1X3. Does >anyone have an answer? > Any class of license can keep (or obtain) a lower-class designated call at their option. Lots of Wx, Kx, Nx, WA(B Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Crystal CW Rig - Help! Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 14:36:30 +0000 Organization: Uk Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Reply-To: Frank G3YCC NNTP-Posting-Host: yorks.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: yorks.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 1.09 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11405 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93908 In article <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, Eric Jacksch writes >Hello all! > >I'm still looking for schematics for a very simple, single freqency >crystal controlled 8m cw transmitter and/or receiver. I have found >lots of fancy, tunable units, etc...what I need is a very stable, >one frequency unit. It's for telemetry - low power is fine! > >Email to ejacksch@bnr.ca would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Eric. Did you really mean 8m? -- Frank G3YCC (G QRP 042) Email: frank@yorks.demon.co.uk From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: timhynde@ix.netcom.com (Tim Hynde ka8ddz/qrp Rochester, MI ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Crystal CW Rig - Help! Date: 6 Nov 1995 00:51:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 21 Message-ID: <47jm5n$99b@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pon-mi3-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 05 4:51:03 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11411 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93928 >In article <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, Eric Jacksch >writes >>Hello all! >> >>I'm still looking for schematics for a very simple, single freqency >>crystal controlled 8m cw transmitter and/or receiver. I have found >>lots of fancy, tunable units, etc...what I need is a very stable, >>one frequency unit. It's for telemetry - low power is fine! >> >>Email to ejacksch@bnr.ca would be greatly appreciated. >> >>Thanks, >>Eric. Have you considred the ARRL handbook or W1FB's QRP book, they both have a plethora of low power CW transmitter schematics. Best wishes, Tim From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:14 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!kb6axk From: kb6axk@netcom.com (Joe Cira) Subject: DIAL-UP BBS TO HAM PACKET DOOR Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 04:02:56 GMT Lines: 24 Sender: kb6axk@netcom12.netcom.com from the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS......... attention all hams....... GOOD NEWS FINNALLY. the landline bbs now has a working bbs to packet DOOR, which means,if you dont have a packet tnc, YET ? now you can call a landline # ie> 818-584-1952 and connect to the amateur packet world ! Right now it's on the So.california DX cluster freq 145.690.not much chit/chat but you will see what socal hams are "hearing" on the hf freqs. it's still in the test mode.. 73' 88'from joe,kb6axk,arrl,sw,lax,acc....... call 818-584-1952.. /EX S -- US AMATEUR RADIO |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS| KB6AXK | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira | PASADENA,CAL,91107| kb6axk@netcom.com | From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!caen!reeve.research.aa.wl.com!decwrl!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MURSO From: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: Drake R4A crystal help Date: 6 Nov 1995 15:29:34 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 23 Message-ID: <47l9ku$d45@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <47l7q8$1b00@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Reply-To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:93950 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21158 In article <47l7q8$1b00@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Stephen G. Roseman) writes: >I'm a brand new Tech-plus - got my callsign Saturday. My dipoles are strung >(and waiting on feedline...) I've got my "brand new" Drake twins, a TX-4 and >a R-4A. I'd like to do some HF phone along with CW. Oops - their 10M band >starts at 28.5 Mhz, above the Novice band. > >So, I need a crystal, and have a few questions. > >1. Anyone have suggestions for a good source of a crystal or two? >> >Thanks, >Steve, N3WHW > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Steve Roseman >Lehigh University Computing Center >lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.Edu Steve, I recently re-crystalled an FT-101 (put 10m back in it) with crystals I purchased from JAN CRYSTALS in Florida. They came very quickly in the mail and I believe they were about $18.00 each. Nice and friendly company to do business with. Mike KB9KFE From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU!lusgr From: lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU (Stephen G. Roseman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Drake R4A crystal help Date: 6 Nov 1995 14:58:16 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47l7q8$1b00@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: chili.cc.lehigh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:93958 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21163 I'm a brand new Tech-plus - got my callsign Saturday. My dipoles are strung (and waiting on feedline...) I've got my "brand new" Drake twins, a TX-4 and a R-4A. I'd like to do some HF phone along with CW. Oops - their 10M band starts at 28.5 Mhz, above the Novice band. So, I need a crystal, and have a few questions. 1. Anyone have suggestions for a good source of a crystal or two? 2. I don't have the manual for R-4A yet. Looking at the crystals for the built-in bands, it appears that I need a 28.0+11.1=39.1 Mhz crystal. Can anyone verify that? 3. Does anybody have the crystal I need for a reasonable price? Thanks, Steve, N3WHW ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Roseman Lehigh University Computing Center lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.Edu From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: "Charles J. Hawley Jr." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: Drake R4A crystal help Date: 6 Nov 1995 19:49:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47los9$bjq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <47l7q8$1b00@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ruger-26.slip.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: lusgr@chili.CC.Lehigh.EDU Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:93963 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21167 Call the R.L.Drake company for the crystals you need. They are very helpful. They are in Miamisburg, Ohio, and the last phone# I have is (may be out of date, but try it) 512-866-2421. The crystals are about $15 each. Chuck, KE9UW From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.eye.com!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu!brad From: brad@wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu (Brad Killebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Date: 5 Nov 1995 19:03:42 GMT Organization: Univ of Houston Ham Radio Club Lines: 25 Message-ID: <47j1qe$i4g@masala.cc.uh.edu> References: <8029112339801@ccsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wb5fnd.tech.uh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: : On repeaters I hear a station call another but when there is no reply, : the calling station comes back and says "nothing heard." Does the caller : think we are all deaf and feels a requirement to state the obvious? Sounds like this is a pet peve of yours. I certainly have one also. When reading these news groups, I see alot of newbies writing the word Ham as "HAM" -- in all caps -- like it's an acronym (sp?). It's not. It's "Ham" or just "ham" radio. The letters H, A, and M do not "stand" for anything. Get with the program. :) Oh, yeah.. I had a discussion one evening with a fellow who though "ham" were the initials of Hiram Maxim. That would be a nice story if his middle name was not Percy. Heheh. -- Brad Killebrew N5LJV Unix Systems Administrator brad@uh.edu, brad@cet.net UH College of Technology The Admin's prayer: "Our OS who art in CPU, UNIX be thy name. Thy programs run, thy syscalls done, in kernel as it is in version." From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!plato.oneworld.net!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!ki7mh From: ki7mh@delphi.com (Robert Wedlock) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX on FM 6 meters? Date: 5 Nov 1995 04:48:07 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9511042328592.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com X-To: Robert Wedlock In article <475dld$lss@mgate.arrl.org>, Zack Lau writes: > Zack KH6CP/1 6M VUCC with 3 watts and the HF dipole zlau@arrl.org An impressive accomplishment indeed!! -- Robert S. Wedlock "Strive" - Buddha ki7mh@delphi.com (Household) rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Private) ki7mh@kd7bn.wy.usa.na (Packet radio) From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.intelenet.com!usenet From: barry@valonline.com (Barry Dorfman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: EARTALK Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 01:26:06 GMT Organization: InteleNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47efe2$ql7@nikita.intelenet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.162.84.9 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Does anyone have any experience with, or info on, an earphone device that also is a microphone? Barry KB6CV From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!not-for-mail From: andy@clark.net (andy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: EARTALK Date: 4 Nov 1995 19:21:22 GMT Organization: clark.net Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47gefi$ca4@clarknet.clark.net> References: <47efe2$ql7@nikita.intelenet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950726BETA PL0] I test drove one at a vendor's table at a hamfest. I don't recall the brand name, but it was around $39. On-the-air reports indicated very low audio level. I had to shout to be heard. And of course, in normal use, one would appear to be shouting at no one. This could make one look a bit silly, if not raving mad. Perhaps the more expensive version might be better. -------------\ andy, k4adl | 20m ssb/qrp | the signal | no one hears | -------------/ Barry Dorfman (barry@valonline.com) wrote: : Does anyone have any experience with, or info on, an earphone device : that also is a microphone? : : Barry KB6CV : : From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!news.net99.net!oxy.rust.net!usenet From: brininger@sirus.com (William R. Rininger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: EARTALK Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 22:22:26 GMT Organization: Rust Net - High Speed Internet in Detroit 810-642-2276 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47jdqa$cbm@oxy.rust.net> References: <47efe2$ql7@nikita.intelenet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ms2l16.sirus.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 barry@valonline.com (Barry Dorfman) wrote: >Does anyone have any experience with, or info on, an earphone device >that also is a microphone? >Barry KB6CV I've had one of those. They work great and also have a good audio quaility in the mic. If you have a use for one I would recomend it. I bought mine used and don't know where a new one could be obtained. Bill N8UXB From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.unb.ca!nbt.nbnet.nb.ca!news From: tremblay@nbed.nb.ca (Jean-Louis Tremblay) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Electronic list of country prefixes Date: 6 Nov 1995 21:40:27 GMT Organization: Department of Education, New-Brunswick, Canada Lines: 10 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[3147] Message-ID: <47lvcb$1cki@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca> References: <46r0kj$23g_001@Intex.intex.net> <47jimq$62@news.hal-pc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.139.200.110 X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.2@142.139.200.110 Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. Voila! Looking for an electronic list of country prefixes. Jean-Louis Tremblay VE9JLT Evaluation Department of Education Fredericton NB E3B 5H1 Canada From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:23 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!daver!dlr From: dlr@daver.bungi.com (Dave Rand) Subject: FREE - Manuals for E-Systems Radio Message-ID: Organization: Association for the Prevention of Polar bears and Kangaroos Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 02:00:55 GMT Lines: 12 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:93893 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21115 I have what appears to be a complete set of manuals for the E-Systems UHF Radio Receiver/Transmitter (RT-1107/WSC-3(v)6, RT-1107/WSC-3(v)7). If you want them, you can have them. If you are local to me (San Jose, California), you can pick them up, or send me postage to mail them to you (about 2kg worth). Call or email. Only one set available - first come first served! -- Dave Rand Internet: dlr@daver.bungi.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:24 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FS Sony SW55 $260 $355 From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47161.4727.0N1FCD62@canrem.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 17:31:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 24 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Subject says it all; please reply here or send mail to Chris.smart@canrem.com, ->crs, or 1:229/15 Phone (voice): (519) 756-9389 I will also trade this radio for a 2010 in good shape. .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMJ06xtZU0fzBPqHhAQFv8wP/S+H+lvDIT7KFck65+pvCwaH7ANySeKtz kQ3X9WkxASXzEJpI1nGxJMSGmqhCE5pvBcXmZMHMPPApshJTz1Co4jNIF+iXCdhh XYcsaFeQOg6KbOdBSMc8zH1Sf35MOTgiRIVDkKsvn5XR4EbtrYPeqQ/X2AgTiOWH BcfGFCFWSFI= =z49W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:25 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!wb6w From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: GPS standard Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <479tb9$e9o@sirio.cineca.it> <815414027snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 09:58:07 GMT Lines: 5 Sender: wb6w@netcom10.netcom.com One thing that you will need to do to receive GPS is be able to recieve a spread spectrum signal. If you know what that means, then you likely know more about GPS than I do. If you don't know, you are unlikely to build a successful GPS receiver. - Glenn Thomas wb6w From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hams that have had sex. Date: 5 Nov 1995 22:00:50 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47jc6i$ji7@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47efnk$6nt@shiva.usa.net> <47fi1i$r28@alterdial.UU.NET> <47j4gp$f6t@allinux2.alliance.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: wyantt@floating.ip.com wyantt@floating.ip.com wrote: >Wait, I'm a ham and I still enjoy having sex with my wife... > >Maybe just the older hams don't want sex... > >Tom Wyant - KB8UFJ You are a ham AND have (and even enjoy) sex? That is rare indeed. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:27 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!nmb-news!news.questar.com!not-for-mail From: amni@netpass.com Subject: Help Locate Friend - So.Cal. Message-ID: <309E2ED4.F31@netpass.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 10:50:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b1J (Windows; I; 32bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 I have been trying to locate an old friend AA6SF (Neil) in Southern Cal. He seems to have moved. No forwarding address, phone number or e-mail address. FCC still lists old address. Anyone who can help me get in touch with him please help - thanks. Terry From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help with QSL Date: 5 Nov 1995 14:57:55 GMT Organization: CFTnet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <47ijdj$p2a@tech.cftnet.com> References: <47b6i8$kp6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft4.ppp252.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: hamkb8uum@aol.com check freq 14247 a dx net. there is a wa4jtk Alan and he keeps a up to date database for qsls. Jim W2GC cronnjwc@cftnet.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 5 Nov 1995 08:58:08 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 46 Message-ID: <47hub0$j0k@news2.delphi.com> References: <1995Oct29.094145.5051@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) NNTP-Posting-Host: bix.com X-Newsreader: NetBix 1.168 X-Newsreader-Author: lwilton@BIX.com (Loren Wilton) This message has been posted with development version software. If there are any problems with the message format, send me mail. In article <1995Oct29.094145.5051@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> jmusto@neca.com writes: >>How accurate is a GPS? I wanted to know if they useful for >>determining altititude. Someone told me +/- 100'. If this is true, >>it would not be useful for altititude, since you could be off by 200'. > >Under many condtions, the civilian GPS is worse than that, +/- 100 >*meters*, or about 600 feet. When SA is off, accuracy as good as >+/- 30 meters can be expected. For better results, you need to >operate in military mode (restricted) or you need to use differential >GPS. With differential mode, position accuaracy down to centimeters >is possible, though usually with a fairly long integration time. Creeb: Phrasing on +/- 100 meters being 600' leaves question... I'd have said it was +/- 300' unless I wanted to toss in the loose change. Accuracies to centimeter levels is two commonly available ways. Leica makes suvey instruments that use GPS and integrate long enough to get honest to 1/100th a platinum bar in France or the appropriate number of cycles of the appropriate frequency of light. Leica also inherited some of the Magnavox differential GPS product line when they bought our commercial GPS products group. These give on the order of +/- 3 to 5 meters accuracy for vehicles with the dynamics such as you might find on a ferry boat threading the channels between Helsinki and Sweeden. (Trust me - they *NEED* it. {^_-}) A lesser used option involves carrier tracking differential GPS which can return a van to within centimeters of a bullseye on the pavement after drving around the city. (That is not to guarantee they always know precisely where they are to that accuracy while driving, though.) >Gary >-- >Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary >534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | {^_^} Joanne Dow, Amiga Exchange Editor on BIX, aka The Wizardess jdow@bix.com, jdow@delphi.com, jdow@beta.delphi.com (Who in her shameless past helped design the SA and dithering for those poor abused satellites for an Air Farce that DESPERATELY did NOT want to hear about "differential GPS." THey wanted to make it expensive for the Soviets to plunk a missle down Jimmy Carter's toity.) From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 5 Nov 1995 08:58:16 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 37 Message-ID: <47hub8$j0k@news2.delphi.com> References: <473b6b$1hr2@news.gate.net> Reply-To: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) NNTP-Posting-Host: bix.com X-Newsreader: NetBix 1.168 X-Newsreader-Author: lwilton@BIX.com (Loren Wilton) This message has been posted with development version software. If there are any problems with the message format, send me mail. In article <473b6b$1hr2@news.gate.net>, Ed Hunter wrote: >Joe, > >GPS would be useless for determining altitude. GPS triangulates on >government satellites to provide latitude/longitude (x,y) coordinates. >GPS does not provide z values (altitude) at all. Bandini (tm) Differential carrier tracking GPS can tell you within a few centimeters your location in all three dimensions relative to a very nearby reference point. (Say the point at which you started the measurement series.) It all devolves down to what in heck is the proposed application? For a boat there is no reason to report the derived altitude. The person sitting reading the instrument hopes like heck he is within a foot or two of where he thinks he is vertically. If he is not he is in . However a person piloting a plane would rather like to know altitude. For most of a route the +/- 300' level of accuracy commercial uncorrected GPS gives is plenty good enough. During landing approaches differential GPS could prove so accurate that the commercial folks would want to do what the Military has done for military instrument auto-landings - introduced an intentional random error longitudinally along the runway. Otherwise the runway deteriorates within the 10' circles around the assigned wheel touchdown spots. {^_-} > >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >Ed Hunter, KD4MCM >Project Specialist >Miami Museum of Science > Opinions expressed are my own >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ {^_^} Joanne Dow, Amiga Exchange Editor on BIX, aka The Wizardess jdow@bix.com, jdow@delphi.com, jdow@beta.delphi.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 5 Nov 1995 08:58:22 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 37 Message-ID: <47hube$j0k@news2.delphi.com> References: <471a8m$b8g@access1.digex.net> Reply-To: jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) NNTP-Posting-Host: bix.com X-Newsreader: NetBix 1.168 X-Newsreader-Author: lwilton@BIX.com (Loren Wilton) This message has been posted with development version software. If there are any problems with the message format, send me mail. In article <471a8m$b8g@access1.digex.net>, kodis@access1.digex.net (John Kodis) wrote: >There's also a technique called carrier-phase differential GPS, in >which the phase of the signal from the differential signal transmitter >is used to fine-tune the position fix obtained using the standard >differential technique. This can provide centimeter level position >accuracy. However, the equipment gets very expensive, the recieving >station has to be stationary, and of course a suitable transmitter has >to be availible, and its location has to be known to at least the >desired accuracy, or the best that can be done is to obtain a location >relative to this fixed position. I don't like to claim centimeter accuracy the way you have in that it implies you know where you are in a city within centimeters using this technique. More precisely you can reposition yourself to a given datum within centimeters. This is a slightly different "solution". Note also that it only applies where you do not have nearby multipath generating objects. Multipath can screwup any thought you might have of centimeter accuracies *REAL* fast. This became very obvious when the GPS prelaunch testset I designed had accuracy problems at the 2-3nS level traceable to a defective design in bulkhead female type N connectors designed for RG-223U cable. (Three manufacturers and two assemblers ALL gave the same impedance bumps at 1GHs to about 1.7GHz. We changed to RG-223 to SMA connectors with bulkhead SMA to N adapters and the problem fell down under 1nS. But talk about problems that are pi**ers to find this one was a class one GEM.) The upshot of this is a *GREAT* deal of scepticism on my part for any position report more accurate than perhaps 4 or 5' unless the site is very multipath free or the measurement takes place over a long enough time to cancel the multipath effects. >-- John Kodis. {^_^} Joanne Dow, Amiga Exchange Editor on BIX, aka The Wizardess jdow@bix.com, jdow@delphi.com, jdow@beta.delphi.com (Who STILL works a little on GPS receivers these days inspite of designing significant chunks of the satellites and escaping the insanity induced by SA and dither and all that nonsense.) From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news3.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: kodis@access1.digex.net (John Kodis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 5 Nov 1995 13:14:16 -0500 Organization: Organization? Surely you jest! Lines: 35 Message-ID: <47iuto$8gv@access1.digex.net> References: <471a8m$b8g@access1.digex.net> <47hube$j0k@news2.delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net In article <47hube$j0k@news2.delphi.com>, Joanne Dow wrote: >In article <471a8m$b8g@access1.digex.net>, > kodis@access1.digex.net (John Kodis) wrote: >>There's also a technique called carrier-phase differential GPS, [ snip ] > >I don't like to claim centimeter accuracy the way you have in that it implies >you know where you are in a city within centimeters using this technique. More >precisely you can reposition yourself to a given datum within centimeters. > >{^_^} Joanne Dow, Amiga Exchange Editor on BIX, aka The Wizardess > jdow@bix.com, jdow@delphi.com, jdow@beta.delphi.com > (Who STILL works a little on GPS receivers these days inspite of > designing significant chunks of the satellites and escaping the > insanity induced by SA and dither and all that nonsense.) Quite correct. I was trying to get the essentials across without writing the definitive reference on the subject, and may have shot through this point a bit too quickly. Thanks for providing the clarification. I wouldn't want anyone to get their expectations too high. Given your background in this area, I was wondering if you could provide some insight into something that I've wondered about. Do you have idea what the motivation is for inflicting "the insanity induced by SA and dither and all that nonsense" on the civilian users of the system? Given the ease with which the positioning error induced by jittering the signal can be corrected for with differential techniques, the standard answer of "so the enemy can't use it" doesn't ring true. It seems like a ludicrous waste of money (even by military standards) to have the DoD put up GPS, dither the signal to degrade its accuracy, only to have the USCG and FAA put up differential transmitters to get the accuracy back to about where it would have been in the first place. -- John Kodis. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:35 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Message-ID: <1995Nov5.214839.18139@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1995Oct29.094145.5051@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <47hub0$j0k@news2.delphi.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:48:39 GMT Lines: 23 In article <47hub0$j0k@news2.delphi.com> jdow@BIX.com (Joanne Dow) writes: >In article <1995Oct29.094145.5051@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, > gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >>In article <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> jmusto@neca.com writes: >> >>Under many condtions, the civilian GPS is worse than that, +/- 100 >>*meters*, or about 600 feet. When SA is off, accuracy as good as > >Creeb: Phrasing on +/- 100 meters being 600' leaves question... >I'd have said it was +/- 300' unless I wanted to toss in the loose change. Yeah, a couple of other people were confused by what I wrote. If you know your location to within 100 meters of a point, you really only know your location is somewhere in a circle with a diameter of about 600 feet centered on the point the GPS is claiming you are. This is your CEP in targeting lingo. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!news.kei.com!eff!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to fix intermod? Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 5 Nov 1995 23:27:50 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 46 Message-ID: <47k2s6$7g3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21148 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93936 Jeff Wigal (jwigal@wsunix.wsu.edu) wrote: : Hi-- : When I travel through some areas of Seattle, my radio is bombarded with : intermod interference (at least that's what I think it is)... : Is there anything I can do to filter this out? Is there any kind of : circuit that I can make that will reduce this interference? : -Jeff Wigal There are three general categories of action against intermod. One is filtering, that is, the placing of selective circuits between the antenna and the receiver that will attenuate (weaken) one or more of the signals which are acting together to produce the interference. The filters can be narrow band, if only a narrow band of frequencies is to blame, or wide band, if many signals on a wide range of frequencies are involved. The filters must themselves be carefully shielded to prevent the interfering radiation from being picked up by the filter just as it was by the antenna. The second category of prevention is making the device in which the intermod is occurring more linear. The crudest way to do this is simply to attenuate all the signals that come into the receiver. The cost is that the signals you want to hear are weakened along with those you don't want. The most subtle way is to change the amplifiers and mixers in the receiver, normally not something we want to fool around with. The expensive way is to replace the receiver with another that is more selective and more linear. Sometimes the only solution is to stay away from the area. Other things outside your receiver may be generating the intermodulation and putting it inside the band of frequencies you want to listen to. These can be the final amplifiers of transmitters around the area, or rusty joints in fences, or any of a number of non-linear devices that can generate and radiate the intermodulation. It ain't simple, and I doubt if there is a metropolitan area in the North America, and maybe in the world, where there is not some area where intractable intermod does not occur. The other services, police, cellular and so on will try to deal with it by increasing the power of their transmitters, which only makes the situation worse for everyone else! GL and 73 Gerry From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!caen!reeve.research.aa.wl.com!decwrl!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HT storage in car? Date: 6 Nov 1995 17:32:23 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu I have a question. I have an extra 2m HT which I would like to keep in our 3rd car. Will it hurt the radio and/or battery being subjected to freezing wheather? (In Columbus, Ohio...it can get down to 0 degrees F.) I know my mobiles are usually ok...if its real cold, I let them warm up a bit before operation, but my concern is mostly the Ni-Cad in the HT. Any advice and/or experience? (Gary maybe?) Thanks, & 73. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 5 Nov 1995 22:34:51 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47je6b$g9f@cis.clark.edu> References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Distribution: world > >1 = ripoff junk, never buy another > >2 = dissatisfied > >3 = mediocre, might buy one and might not > >4 = reasonably satisfied, would condider buying another > >5 = most wonderful 2 meter handheld ever conceived 4. Mine has worked well for a year now with no intermod ever heard in a room where an Icom and a Yaesu (sp?) were both unsquelching to out of band noise. James A. Doty From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:39 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jgardner From: jgardner@netcom.com (Jerry Gardner) Subject: Re: I never met a ham I liked. Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <476fm6$jl@news.usit.net> <47a78m$d7p@mozart.wg.icl.co.uk> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:12:53 GMT Lines: 15 Sender: jgardner@netcom7.netcom.com Phil Rose (pvr@wg.icl.co.uk) wrote: : In article jl@news.usit.net, Steve Martin writes: : >..Would someone please explain to me what "the 'N' word", Quebecois : ^^^^^^^^^ : >..secession, or African-American genealogical issues have to do with ham : ^^^^^^^^^^ : >..radio??? : >.. : >.. : Country status for VE2 or whatever it would have become. Does that mean we'd get another DXCC country? ;-) -- Jerry Gardner | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest jgardner@netcom.com | Send subscription requests to jgardner@netcom.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: stockmal@ix.netcom.com (Alex Stockmal ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: IC V21AT MODS??? Date: 5 Nov 1995 20:26:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 9 Message-ID: <47j6m3$2th@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-stm1-21.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 05 12:26:43 PM PST 1995 Hi, Thanks for reading my article. I have purchased the Icom ICV21AT. It is the 220 Mhz and 2m dual-bander. Does anyone know of any mods?? Tnx Philip Stockmal A.R.S. N1TMG President 21DXC Club INDEXA MEMBER ARRL MEMBER From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:41 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:32:05 GMT Lines: 31 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com Jeff Hall (szhall@rocky.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I understand that the extra is easier than the advanced..Why? I would : like your remarks and any short cuts..thanks..Jeff This is what I am hearing all the time. I am currently studying for my Extra. Unfortunately, I cannot comment on the difference, as my Advanced dates back to 1968. I do feel that exams were more difficult then [read: technically oriented] but taking them at an FCC office definitely raised the anxiety level, especially if one had to drive as much as 150 miles, as the regs were then. I am not yet a VE, but as treasurer for our local club, I work with our VE team to collect the fees at our monthly testing session. Just with what I learned from this experience, I took the exam with the full set of questions on the Commissions rules, and scored a 79 percent score cold. Well, the short cut the works for all license classes is memorizing the question pool. I cannot resolve myself to this approach, after many years of working as an electronics technician, and even more years of being a ham. The best approach for me would be a classroom experience, but our clubs classes cut off with Advanced. This would certainly get me to my goal faster than the occasional self-study from the ARRL manual. Good luck in your pursuit, however you decide to do it. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: ignacio@ix.netcom.com (Ignacio Huerta) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Looking for Peruvian ARC's Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 18:51:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47gcoo$ln5@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pl6-19.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 04 10:52:08 AM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 I have two nephews that live in San Isidro and Miraflores (somewhat near Lime) in Peru and I would like to send them a ham rig for Christmas. However, both need to get their licenses first. I'm looking for any amateur radio clubs in that area that could help them get their licenses and, also, advise me on what type of rig would be best for them (given different line voltages and frequencies). Your help is greatly appreciated Responses in Spanish are ok if you ignore grammatical mistakes in my response. Tnx agn, 73 de Ignacio Huerta AC6NY@KD4CVR.#NOCA.CA.USA.NOAM ignacio@ix.netcom.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!iol!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!relay-4.mail.demon.net From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Methods of Execution Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 16:49:03 GMT Organization: CQ-BBS +44 1753 595468 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <815676543snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <47e4jl$498@popcorn.hamburg.pop.de> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: relay-4.mail.demon.net X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 Al Gerheim writes: > condemned is strapped to a wooden chair, electrodes are attached, and > a shock of 30,000 watts is applied. The prisoner is literally cooked Is there any significance to the fact that this thread appears under 'Police Radar: Was he lying?' on my newsreader. Do any states have the death penalty for speeding? If so, which ones? 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us!SABINW From: sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Morse code Date: 4 Nov 1995 20:24:11 GMT Organization: Cedar Rapids Public Library, Cedar Rapids, IA, 52401 Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47gi5b$tmu@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: SABINW@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us NNTP-Posting-Host: crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Drew sound exactly like one of them *transverter* fellers with all that mean talk about Morse code and all those nice folks that enjoy it so much. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:45 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ag368 From: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) Subject: Re: Motorola Mods Message-ID: Sender: ag368@freenet3.carleton.ca (Mark Boyer) Reply-To: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <47bkl6$36j@atlas.uniserve.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:44:32 GMT Lines: 23 MILO (traveler@uniserve.com) writes: > A friend recently picked up a couple of lunchbox sized pt-300 > handfulls, they are operating in the 160 Mhz area.Does anyone > know how they can be changed to the 2 metre band If they are similar to any of the other Motorola products 160 Mhz is either at the top of the band or the bottom. If memory serves me correctly Motorola products run in 3 groupings for VHF 136-150, 150 to 162 and 162 to 174. I am not familiar with the 300's but don't be surprised if this is the case. You would have to rebuild the radio from scratch to get it to work. I look after comms for the local Red Cross branch and they are at 162 Mhz and I have had to pass on a lot of free Motorola gear because it was from the lower groupings. 73 Mark -- Mark Boyer VE3MJB ag368@freenet.carleton.ca HELP, HELP we're twapped in a Dash 8 going wound and wound. A day in the life at uAmps R us. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!druid.borland.com!csus.edu!zephyr.water.ca.gov!swanee.water.ca.gov!news.ucdavis.edu!burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu!ctbaker From: ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need PC program to practice code Date: 4 Nov 1995 19:02:27 GMT Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis Lines: 13 Message-ID: <47gdc3$1i4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <47e216$1qk@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Kevin Kuhl (Kuhl@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know of a shareware or inexpensive program that can be used to : practice Morse code. I would check out the ham radio directories on such sites as oak.oakland.edu ftp.cs.buffalo.edu I assume you have ftp ability. Chad From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interserv.net!usenet From: 70511,2570@compuserve.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: New CAPMAN does contour mapping Date: 4 Nov 1995 23:49:20 GMT Organization: InterServ News Service Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47gu60$8i1@data.interserv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad68-014.compuserve.com Keywords: HF,PROPAGATION,IONCAP X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21113 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93886 rec.radio.shortwave:65622 Version 3.0 of CAPMAN, Communications Analysis Prediction Manager, is now available with many enhancements. A mapping module is also available that provides color contours of: MUF or S/N, Reliability, Angle, Field Strength, Antenna Gains, Virtual Height, Loss, Range and more relative to frequency, projected on a user specified area or the entire world map. See ads in the current issue of NCJ and CQ for more details. contact: Lucas Radio/Kangaroo Tabor Software 552 Wewoka Drive, Boulder, CO 80303 303-494-4647 FAX: 303-494-0937 Say you saw it here. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!slip1-56.acs.ohio-state.edu!fergus.8 From: fergus.8@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark D. Fergus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 04:51:05 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <1995Nov4.163905.16063@atlas.tntech.edu> <1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip1-56.acs.ohio-state.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50319 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93894 In article <1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> jmg@tntech.edu (Jeff Gold) writes: >Anyone know anything about the new Radio Shack 2 meter mobile >rigs. They are on sale for $299 now and it sure looked good. >wonder who really makes it and how it compares to the other >current 2 meter mobile on the market. >73 >Jeff, AC4HF Jeff, I've heard lots of good things about this radio. Dual VFOs, 30 memories, Call channel, 45 watts, plus CTCSS encode and DECODE. The only thing I don't like about it is that transmit is from 144.600 to 147.995 MHz, not 144.000 to 147.995. However, it is expandable to MARS/CAP transmit. Can't beat the price this month, either. Never seen a new mobile under $300. I'm going to get one next week. Not sure who makes it, though. Has same mic and front panel as Kenwood TM-241A and Yaesu FT2200H. However, these radios do not come with CTCSS decode standard. And the prices are higher. When I get the HTX-212, I'll let you know if I like it. 73's de N8VJF Mark From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.dfn.de!darwin.sura.net!atlas.tntech.edu!jmg From: jmg@tntech.edu (Jeff Gold) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile Message-ID: <1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> Date: 4 Nov 95 16:40:03 -0500 References: <1995Nov4.163905.16063@atlas.tntech.edu> X-From: jmg@tntech.edu (Jeff Gold) X-Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment Followup-To: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment X-Date: 4 Nov 95 16:39:05 -0500 X-Organization: Tennessee Tech University Lines: 7 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50349 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93905 Anyone know anything about the new Radio Shack 2 meter mobile rigs. They are on sale for $299 now and it sure looked good. wonder who really makes it and how it compares to the other current 2 meter mobile on the market. 73 Jeff, AC4HF From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MURSO From: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile Date: 6 Nov 1995 13:52:53 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 26 Message-ID: <47l3vl$qkt@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <1995Nov4.163905.16063@atlas.tntech.edu>,<1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> Reply-To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50431 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93946 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21155 In article <1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu>, jmg@tntech.edu (Jeff Gold) writes: >Anyone know anything about the new Radio Shack 2 meter mobile >rigs. They are on sale for $299 now and it sure looked good. >wonder who really makes it and how it compares to the other >current 2 meter mobile on the market. >73 > >Jeff, AC4HF Jeff, I have had an HTX-212 almost since they came out. It has a few quirks that are just slightly annoying (You can't save out of band freq - like the weather broadcasts in memory.) I have had no problem and it is very easy to set up a repeater freq into memory. Even the odd splits (my home repeater has a 1.08M split) are not a problem. It does CTCSS both directions out of the box (Read no add-on board). It has good audio and a 30 memory selection is plenty for me. You do have to "OPEN UP" the transmit and receive (it is still in band however) to use many of the repeater that use a lower than RS allowed transmit. I talked to customer service and their response was that it was intentional and done to go along with a "gentlemens aggreement" on bandplan. The 10 watt low is a little higher power than I would like and the 45 high power is fine. The Squelch is a little wierd in the setting. 50% - 12 o'clock is just S1 on my radio. It is very hard to squelch out a moderate signal. All in all I would buy another for my wife, but I want to wait for the rumored "dual-band" mobile (and give my wife the 2m unit!) Mike KB9KFE From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:51 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jantz From: jantz@netcom.com (Mark R. Jantz) Subject: Phonetic alphabet words Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 06:14:44 GMT Lines: 9 Sender: jantz@netcom9.netcom.com Can anyone tell me where I can look up the phonetic alphabet words and/or post them? I am not into ham radio but understand hams know them. It seems that since police and military use them that they should be easy to look up in a library, but I don't really know where to look. Thanks. /\/\ark From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!hopi.gate.net!darkstar From: darkstar@gate.net (DarkStar) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Phonetic alphabet words Date: 5 Nov 1995 17:57:32 GMT Organization: CyberGate Lines: 11 Message-ID: <47ituc$irq@news.gate.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: hopi.gate.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Alfa Bravo Charlie Delta Echo Foxtrot Golf Hotel India Juliette Kilo Lima Mike November Oscar Papa Quebec Romeo Sierra Tango Uniform Victor Whiskey Xray Zulu -- -- ================= DarkStar == Auburndale Florida == USA =================== Do you have/need/want wireless cable TV ? Computing with an attitude. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.consultix.com!news.kei.com!ub!library.erc.clarkson.edu!curryds From: curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 6 Nov 1995 16:35:33 GMT Organization: Clarkson University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47ldgl$iup@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: craft.camp.clarkson.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Thanks to all for the advice on the cars. Yeh, i realize that when driving a 1994 Mustang you might as well paint a sign on it saying "Pull me over" My main concern is the fact that he couldnt prove to me that I was speeding by not showing me the radar. The other constraints i forgot to mention in the original post was the fact that i was coming round a corner, he was coming the oposite way and there was a hill between us, he only had me for a second or two. This is a small town area. I had the idea that he was required to show you the radar, it must be different in different states but this sure is gonna be a hit to the wallet.  Tnx for the Web sites 73 David KG2EB From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:53 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Popular Communications? From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!in1.uu.net!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47160.4727.0N1FCD61@canrem.com> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 17:31:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 28 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi. I heard somewhere recently that Popular Communications Magazine could be obtained in an alternate format, namely on computer disk. Can anybody confirm or deny this info? Is anybody currently receiving this magazine on disk, and if so, how much is the subscription per year? Thanks, Chris. chris.smart@canrem.com, ->crs, or 1:229/15 .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMJ05QdZU0fzBPqHhAQE1igQAnXxDXrbmMUn0uZbOfFyzl+blYVrY9Kx9 Ng+ZYzj/StGTgwbQy2z/zD2NUsPNRgpiRJ0zm94Oz1+cw972Tt6tK4/oCTE0bZK3 N7WtQk0x9f5GzlfgHTafqqslSBh3UG6xSrn2PQW7esJcsOuTkl5Qgdzzl9wE/01+ oor6m5y55jM= =2a+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!druid.borland.com!csus.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu!ctbaker From: ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Q: Does anyone frequent IRC? Date: 4 Nov 1995 19:05:17 GMT Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis Lines: 7 Message-ID: <47gdhd$1i4@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have noticed that there is a #HamRadio channel on the IRC.... but I only RARELY see anyone on it... and usually I see only one person there if there IS anyone on it.... Is there a schedule to meet up on the IRC or is it that no one uses this medium of communication? Chad From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!ftp.netgate.net!news From: evelez@netgate.net (Ed Velez) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Q: Does anyone frequent IRC? Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 18:55:19 GMT Organization: NetGate Communications Lines: 18 Message-ID: <47j1ar$hla@ftp.netgate.net> References: <47gdhd$1i4@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: d26.netgate.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) wrote: >I have noticed that there is a #HamRadio channel on the IRC.... but I >only RARELY see anyone on it... and usually I see only one person there >if there IS anyone on it.... Is there a schedule to meet up on the IRC or >is it that no one uses this medium of communication? >Chad I also get on there once in a while to talk to folks on the east coast where I used to live. You're right though, its a very quiet channel. Ed / KD2PM Ed Velez / Corsair Communications Taking the bite out of cellular fraud... From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!druid.borland.com!csus.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu!ctbaker From: ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Q: What dual band HT to buy? Date: 4 Nov 1995 04:05:23 GMT Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47eoq3$m02@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I want to buy a 2m/70cm dual band HT radio. Which unit should I buy and why should I buy it? I have been looking at the following radios: Kenwood TH-79AD Icom IC-W21AT Yaesu FT-530 Icom IC-Z1A Also are there any mods for the IC-Z1A? Thanks!! Chad Baker From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.unb.ca!coranto.ucs.mun.ca!leif!jcraig From: jcraig@kean.ucs.mun.ca Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL Help pse. Date: 4 Nov 95 16:32:06 -0330 Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <1995Nov4.163206.1@leif> NNTP-Posting-Host: leif.ucs.mun.ca Are there any sites which have call book servers for DX callsigns? In the mean time, If anyone has an address or QSL manager for Tom, UA0KAG, I'd certainly appreciate having it forwarded. Thanks and 73 Joe VO1NA From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QSL info... Date: 5 Nov 1995 15:18:06 GMT Organization: CFTnet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47ikje$p2a@tech.cftnet.com> References: <475k3c$m8m@ci.ist.utl.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft4.ppp252.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: l38217@alfa.ist.utl.pt Any US call can be located via qrz.com here on the net along with several other call book servers. The qrz page is excellent and I am sure you would enjoy it. WeGC Jim cronnjwc@cftnet.com From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:07:59 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!aimnet.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!decwrl!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!pineapp From: pineapp@netcom.com (Daniel Curry) Subject: QSL Route for T32BZ?? Message-ID: Organization: Netcom-Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:59:41 GMT Lines: 10 Sender: pineapp@netcom10.netcom.com I am looking for QSL manager for T32BZ? I was able to work him last night on 20. His signal was 59 from San Francisco Bay Area. -- .----------------------------------------------+--------------------------. | INTERNET: pineapp@netcom.com (DC436) | Daniel Curry | | AMPRNET : dan@wb6stw.ampr.org [44.4.20.144] | WB6STW | | AX.25 : wb6stw@n0ary.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA | DoD # 1450 | '----------------------------------------------+--------------------------' From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!its.hooked.net!news.scruz.net!usenet From: todd@tj.org (Todd Jonz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect Date: 4 Nov 1995 10:17:49 GMT Organization: scruz-net Lines: 34 Message-ID: <47fekd$5n2@news.scruz.net> References: <"30-Oct-95..8:21:09".*.Anthony_M._Werdein.wbst139@xerox.com> <476oa6$hjc@abyss.west.sun.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.179.78.1 X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.3 writes: > The only thing you have to say when the [Radio Shack] sales person > [asks for your name and address] is NO THANKS....The sales person > will not be offended if you say no This may be the case in the store where you work, Anthony, but I can assure you that it's not universally true. A clerk in my local store actually refused to sell me a 9-pin RS-232 gender bender unless I gave him my name and address. I left the store without it rather than yield to his BS. > if you are doing a return, then they have to get your name. Most reputable businesses are satisfied by a dated register receipt. If this is not the case at Radio Shack, I suugest this policy should be posted in large print beside the cash register. Based on my experience, I think my local store should post a sign at the door that reads: If you wish to do business with us, you must provide us with your name and address, which we will sell to mailing list maintainers so they can fill your mailbox with junk mail. I wonder how *that* would effect business? I've seen it asserted here that Radio Shack does not sell its mailing list, but I can assure you that they most definitely do. Before I stopped giving them my name, I would use a different ficticious name on each visit. Soon thereafter I was receiving multiple copies of the same junk mail addressed to Gus Flaubert, Ben Disraeli, and Irv Washington! KB6JXT, Todd From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:01 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <"30-Oct-95..8:21:09".*.Anthony_M._Werdein.wbst139@Xerox.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:48:38 GMT Lines: 32 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com Anthony_M._Werdein.Wbst139@xerox.COM wrote: : To Drew and all the rest, : With all of this rambling on about Radio Shacks name policy on sales, : it just ain't so! The only thing you have to say when the sales person (Drew- : have respect for them) asks is NO THANKS. Thats all! Now if you are doing a : return, then they have to get your name. The sales person will not be offended : if you say no, but the most important thing is to treat the person as you would : like to be treated! While I agree that we should not take out our anger with a misguided corporate policy on the salesperson, know that there are many who are very persistent about getting this information. I just became aware that RS has a presence on the Internet: rs.customer.relations@tandy.com Those of us who do not like the name-and-address policy at RS should complain loudly, right to the corporate level. For the most part, making any sort of complaint, even to the manager, just will not accomplish anything; this is true of most retail businesses. I have already used the above address to send e-mail, notifying them of the ongoing discussion/outrage about their policy in this newsgroup. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:02 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <"30-Oct-95..8:21:09".*.Anthony_M._Werdein.wbst139@xerox.com> <47fekd$5n2@news.scruz.net> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:41:07 GMT Lines: 36 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com Todd Jonz (todd@tj.org) wrote: : Most reputable businesses are satisfied by a dated register receipt. If : this is not the case at Radio Shack, I suugest this policy should be posted : in large print beside the cash register. Based on my experience, I think : my local store should post a sign at the door that reads: : If you wish to do business with us, you must : provide us with your name and address, which : we will sell to mailing list maintainers so : they can fill your mailbox with junk mail. : I wonder how *that* would effect business? I've seen it asserted here that : Radio Shack does not sell its mailing list, but I can assure you that they : most definitely do. Before I stopped giving them my name, I would use a : different ficticious name on each visit. Soon thereafter I was receiving : multiple copies of the same junk mail addressed to Gus Flaubert, Ben Disraeli, : and Irv Washington! The best suggestion I have heard is to give a ficticious name, with the address of another local RS store. I think I will be "Jack Offenback" the next time I go to a RS store other than the one where I usually shop; the manager there is a member of our local radio club. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- : KB6JXT, Todd From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!acd!Gary_Danaher From: Gary_Danaher@acd.org (Gary Danaher) Reply-To: Gary_Danaher@acd.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Distribution: world Subject: Re: Radio Amateur Callbook Date: 04 Nov 1995 11:44:30 GMT Message-ID: <1917976542.108944631@acd.org> Organization: Apple Corps of Dallas Lines: 3 The November QST had 3 ads in the back from vendors willing to sell at a discount, arount 33-36 dollars US. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Amateur Callbook Date: 5 Nov 1995 15:24:40 GMT Organization: CFTnet Lines: 5 Message-ID: <47ikvo$p2a@tech.cftnet.com> References: <95110220120414085@saloon.bcbbs.net> <47d7s9$gds@Mercury.mcs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft4.ppp252.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: shreed@MCS.COM Scott is correct. Here in Florida they have a ongoing campaign trying to every state to collect tax on all & any mail order buying. Jim W2GC From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack and HT Sales Date: 6 Nov 1995 04:07:58 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47k1mu$epj@cc.iu.net> References: <46rcun$qqn@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-18.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org>, sid@hal-pc.org writes: >I worked for RS for a year. They know it requires a license to use a ham radio. They don't care. If you have the money, they >will sell it to you. I never would do it. It really pissed off the manager. you could put the store and company in serious legal trouble..it's not illegal to sell a radio to someone. it's not illegal for them to listen using the radio. it's just illegal for them to transmit w/o proper authorization for the band they're on... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: Radio Shack Hams Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 01:11:31 PST Message-ID: <803624151601@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 49 72>>in my experience, the pieces and parts and even one or two of their 72>>high-end scanners are about all radio shack is good for. just in my 72>>experience, anyone that says they're happy with their radio shack stereo 72>>system or television did not do a whole lot of shopping around before 72>>they decided to buy. 72>> 72>>greg 72>>kd6ven 72> I agree with above reference to being helped by a licensed ham not always 72>meaning what it sounds like. If you can hear the conversation between 72>some of the hams on our local repeater, most of you better informed hams 72>will laugh. 72>Just because they passed a test that anyone can memorize does not make 72>them an authority on electronics. I still hear Bozo statements from hams who 72>have been into the hobby for many years, like: 72>"You are real strong into the repeater. I am getting full scale on my meter! 72>"I can't understand why you are noisy. I am getting full scale on my meter." 72>"You better not drain your batteries all the way down, because their 72>memories will be shot!"-----This was heard in a conversation in a Radio 72>Shack store between a Radio Shack ham and one of his newly liscensed 72>ham customers. 72>" My HT drains too much voltage in the car because I get alternator whine!" 72>"My antenna must be broken. I get almost a dead short from the center 72>conductor to ground" 72>"There must be something wrong with the repeater. I hear paging tones 72>all the time." 72>These statements were all from "liscensed hams". Need I say more? 72>Steve, WA3RVT i agree with you completely steve. this was basically about rules and regs though. that makes me wonder if the same hams you mention even know the rules and regulations well to boot! i've heard very similar statements on the local repeaters in my area as well. hence, i stay away from 2-meters as much as possible. greg kd6ven From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:07 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Radio Shack Hams Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <47d7t0$83v@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:57:18 GMT Lines: 11 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com I visited the HRO store in Burbank, CA last weekend, and bought an antenna tuner and a couple of publications. When asked if there was anything else, I asked about an attenuator for my QRP rig. Happy to report, the salesman-manager caught the joke right away. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.consultix.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack Hams Date: 6 Nov 1995 17:31:21 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 35 Message-ID: <47lgp9$rfv@cis.clark.edu> References: <47d7t0$83v@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > "You are real strong into the repeater. I am getting full scale on my meter!" > "I can't understand why you are noisy. I am getting full scale on my meter." > "You better not drain your batteries all the way down, because their > memories will be shot!"-----This was heard in a conversation in a Radio > Shack store between a Radio Shack ham and one of his newly liscensed > ham customers. > " My HT drains too much voltage in the car because I get alternator whine!" > "My antenna must be broken. I get almost a dead short from the center > conductor to ground" > "There must be something wrong with the repeater. I hear paging tones > all the time." > These statements were all from "liscensed hams". Need I say more? > Steve, WA3RVT That's a great list. I've heard some of the same statements here in Vancouver, WA. It's too bad some ham radio operators don't understand some of the basics. Speaking of basics, I was in my college's bookstore recently buying supplies when I came across a salesperson helping a customer buy 3.5" diskettes. She told the customer it was the hard disk needed for the customer's Windows class. James A. Doty KI7EL From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: pryack@ix.netcom.com (Paul R. Ryack) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: SkyRider terminal program for 1278 Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 00:49:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 7 Message-ID: <47h1hd$2qn@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sb1-13.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 04 4:46:37 PM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 QST for November, 1995, mentions a new shareware terminal program for the MFJ1278 called SkyRider. Does anybody know of a web site where it can be found. TNX & 73 de Paul, W1ETH Paul R. Ryack, W1ETH/6 pryack@ix.netcom.com W1ETH@K6TZ.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:09 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!ames!news.hawaii.edu!jherman From: jherman@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) Subject: Re: The "I" man is a ham X-Nntp-Posting-Host: uhunix3.its.hawaii.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu Organization: University of Hawaii References: <4704ev$57f@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <472bot$lpt@alterdial.UU.NET> <47di2t$efa@news2.ucsd.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:21:05 GMT Lines: 16 Brian Kantor wrote: >>> I look like an idiot >>We know. Now try to say the above *without* using "I". > >How about "Brian Kantor looks like an idiot" > >Does that do it? > - Brian Sure! But why are you calling yourself an idiot? I'm almost as good with my editor as you are with yours. But I'm *sure* your editing out an attribution line was only an honest error. Jeff From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 4 Nov 1995 07:29:16 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47f4oc$1aqc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <8033-263827401@inferno.com> <47buh6$1e6a@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47djlf$21n@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >Hmmm...just when we think drew has come around, he goes off stereotyping >and "grouping" all RS sales people, with assumptions and name calling. > >Wonder how many "construction workers, apartment maintenance workers, >truck drivers, ect." drew has heard in the ONE month he has had his license >with his single HT? I've heard all of the above, Chris...both on 2-meters and also on 10- meters. Believe it or not, non-hams actually do buy these radios and use them illegally. Why don't you come on down here and I'll show you. While you're down here, we'll talk on the radio a bit. Maybe if I get lucky, the RF in close proximity to your body will cause your pacemaker to malfunction and you'll die. Then I won't have to listen to your nonsensical drivel anymore. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: Unliscensed use Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Sat, 04 Nov 95 01:11:31 PST Message-ID: <803624157102@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 27 CG>>As a licensed amateur operator, it is of great concern to me that Sammy CG>>Salesdroid doesn't know the difference between a business band radio, a CG>>GMRS radio, a CB radio, and an amateur radio. Is it any wonder that CG>>we're now hearing all sorts of (unlicensed) construction workers, CG>>apartment maintenance workers, truck drivers, etc. on 2-meters these days? CG>> CG>> CG>>-Drew in Charlotte- CG>> KF4DDM CG>> CG>Hmmm...just when we think drew has come around, he goes off stereotyping CG>and "grouping" all RS sales people, with assumptions and name calling. CG>Wonder how many "construction workers, apartment maintenance workers, CG>truck drivers, ect." drew has heard in the ONE month he has had his license CG>with his single HT? apparently longer than one month, since i have messages in my que that i save for entertainment purposes that show drew's .sig and call letters much longer than one month. and it's not just drew. i've heard the same as well, locally, for years... even before i got my license some 3 years ago... greg kd6ven From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: mjsilva@ix.netcom.com (michael silva) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 4 Nov 1995 20:09:03 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 15 Message-ID: <47gh8v$nos@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <8033-263827401@inferno.com> <47buh6$1e6a@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47djlf$21n@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47f4oc$1aqc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-val-ca1-20.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 04 12:09:03 PM PST 1995 In <47f4oc$1aqc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: > Maybe if I get >lucky, the RF in close proximity to your body will cause your pacemaker >to malfunction and you'll die. Then I won't have to listen to your >nonsensical drivel anymore. Drew, you're such a pig. You must have been the one who posted all those pacemaker cracks on AOL that had to be deleted by the management. Class act. Mike, KK6GM From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 5 Nov 1995 19:17:13 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <47jk69$1uk@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8033-263827401@inferno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article , Glenn Hansen wrote: >I can agree to some of what you say but here in Washington it doesn't seem >that we have the same age group. The 'lost' Radio Shack employees I have delt >with cross all age, race and gender groups. Up here it is like a disease, it >doesn't care who it infests. Ditto all the stores I've frequented in the Southeastern New England area It's always amusing to be wandering around in the electronic components section only to have the salesmoron come up to you and say 'is there something I can help you find?' I usually reply 'yeah, I'm looking for an electrolytic isolinear thermoflux capacitor with a photoionization ohm restrictor". When their eyes start to clear a little the next thing out of their mouth undoubtably is "do you have the part number for that?" to which I reply "No... but gee, I know its in the electronics section of the latest catalog." Being ever so helpful they always offer to go look it up for me, because with a name that long, its gonna be really expensive and the commission they'll get on it will buy clearasil for the rest of the month. While they're off in the back room looking or asking the "manager" (invariably another zit-faced kit in the back room) I quietly pick up what I need, pay at the counter, and leave. The next time I go in, they usually don't bother me. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ulowell.uml.edu!vtc.tacom.army.mil!news2.acs.oakland.edu!newshub.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!news From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 06 Nov 1995 16:11:27 GMT Organization: General Motors R&D Center Lines: 54 Message-ID: References: <46obe0$1g6u@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <46p3te$j19@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <46troo$dlv@cyber1.servtech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rinhp750.gmr.com In-reply-to: billn@cyber1.servtech.com's message of 28 Oct 1995 14:11:36 -0400 In article <46troo$dlv@cyber1.servtech.com> billn@cyber1.servtech.com (bill newman) writes: > An earlier post brought the issue of Radio Shack to the head. There are > many sales persons at the RS stores that don't actually know what they > are selling. I have been to a couple of RS stores and have been told that > the 2m trancevers are just UPGRADED CB radios. I even had one salesperson > demo the unit stating that all you had to do was to put together a group > of numbers and letters and anybody would take that as a license and talk > to you. That's the fault of the salesperson, not Radio Shack. ALL their amateur radio promotional material mentions the fact that a license is mandetory. ALL the amateur radio packages mention the necessity of a license. The training materials that all employees are required to read and the weenie test on those materials cover the licensing requirement. Radio Shack's VP of marketing is an active ham. He used to be in charge of the communications line. The fellow that replaced him in that capacity is also an active ham. The problem you saw there is a common problem wherever you have sales persons. New car salesman: "This truck will easily handle a 36 foot trailer." Watercraft salesman: "...we even include a fire extinguisher so you'll have all the safety equipment the coast guard requires". Home improvement salesman: "We'll take care of all the permits and follow all the building codes." Equipment rental person: "Sure, anyone can run a trencher. You just turn this key to start and pull back on this lever to go." Hardware store help: "Of course you can use this paint in a basement. You can use ANY of our paints in a basement." Gardening supply salesperson: "You need to use a face mask with that bug spray. Any kind will do." OKAY, okay.... I know I tend to get carried away... -- Val Breault vbreault@gmr.com \ /| ars N8OEF GM R&D Center - instrumentation dept. \ / | pres GM ARC My opinions are not necessarily those \ /__| HF mobile on of GM R&D or of the GM Corporation. \/ |___ 14.200 +/- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!relay-4.mail.demon.net From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: VHF Communications Magazine Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 19:28:19 GMT Organization: None Lines: 26 Message-ID: <476729286wnr@g6iqm.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: relay-4.mail.demon.net X-Broken-Date: Saturday, Nov 04, 1995 19.28.19 X-Newsreader: Newswin Alpha 0.7 Hi there, Yes I am afraid its me again - but initiating my own thread!!! I now I cannot compete with HRT - heaven forbid! - but for all those who might be interested we have arrived on the Web! Our Web pages can be found at: http://www.taynet.co.uk/~gdx/ag/vhfcomm.htm Initially our pages are quite simple, in order to guage response etc. So, please let me have your comments (not too unkind please!) and suggestions and I will see what can be done. Even better - how about subscribing!!!!!! 73 ... Mike -- Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk CompuServe: 100441,377 Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:17 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <4748gm$e95@news.asu.edu> <47jvp5$1vui@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:11:07 GMT Lines: 23 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com Drew Durigan (VUBS79A@prodigy.com) wrote: : Better yet: get Caller ID which displays the name and phone number of the : person/business calling you. By looking at the box, you will instantly : know whether it's an important call or whether it's an unwanted : telemarketer/bill collector/boss on day off/ex-boyfriend, girlfriend, : husband, wife/other nuisance call. The use of Caller ID together with an : answering machine has proven to be quite effective; I would highly : recommend it. As I understand it, Caller ID is not infallible. What about Caller ID blocking? It looks like an idea that started out well, but was able to be circumvented even before it fully came into being. Correct me if I am wrong, Drew. Actually, I would prefer to hear that my info is incorrect. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:18 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!badger.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.eas.asu.edu!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Will DSP & Pre-Amp help 2m SSB Message-ID: <1995Nov4.050048.11257@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <47ea3n$rt9@news.azstarnet.com> Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 05:00:48 GMT Lines: 62 In article <47ea3n$rt9@news.azstarnet.com> Buster writes: >I know your antenna is the most important part of your rig. >I have no room for a bigger antenna. I have a small yagi on a camera >tripod in my 2nd floor apartment. >I do stick the antenna out on the balcony sometimes. > >Will DSP and/or a pre-amp help me "pull in" the weak signals on >2m ssb? I can usually tell there is modulation there. It's just so >low I can't understand it. Probably not. >What are the affects of DSP? There are basically 3 things an outboard audio DSP unit can do for you. The most unique thing it can do is notch out multiple carriers in the passband. This doesn't really apply in your case. The second thing it can do is offer you a narrowed passband response. This is useful if your radio has inadequately narrow filtering. If the radio filter is already near the minimum for the speech bandwidth, then DSP likely won't help here either. The third thing some DSP boxes can do for you is suppress uncorrelated gaussian noise in the passband. This sounds great, and just what you need, but there's a catch. For most units to discriminate between coherent signals and uncorrelated noise, the signal must be significantly stronger than the noise. So DSP can make copy more comfortable, but it's unlikely to make a signal lost in the noise readable. >What are the affects of a Pre-amp? The primary effect of a preamp is to set your system noise figure. You almost never need more signal gain to deal with a signal buried in noise. What you need is a better signal to noise ratio. Some SSB transceivers for VHF/UHF have a pretty dismal basic noise figure, and long coax runs can degrade that even more. So a preamp at the antenna can be a great help in improving your system noise figure and allow you to have a better SNR. Now that's if the primary reason for a poor SNR is internally generated noise in the receiver. If the noise is externally generated, IE atmospheric or manmade, then the preamp will happily amplify that too and won't materially improve your ultimate SNR. If your basic receiver has a good noise figure, and your coax run is short, a preamp probably won't help. Now there's a downside to preamps too. If there are strong signals nearby, your preamp will "crunch" and generate intermodulation products that can make an otherwise readable signal unreadable. So too much gain can be as bad as too little. It sounds like to me that neither an audio DSP box nor a preamp will help much in your situation. You really need a better antenna and antenna location. In the computer world there is an expression, GIGO, meaning Garbage In, Garbage Out. You're getting more garbage than signal because of an inadequate antenna. The only solution is to fix the problem at its source by improving the antenna. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kk5ep@aol.com (KK5EP) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Wiring home for 220 outlet. Date: 5 Nov 1995 22:49:19 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 2 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <47k0jv$lji@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: kk5ep@aol.com (KK5EP) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Anybody ever wire your place for 220 so you can hook up a linear? HELP! 73, Mike (KK5EP@aol.com) From Unknown Mon Nov 06 21:08:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mv!wd1v.mv.com!user From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: WWW Mac/Ham Message-ID: Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:11:54 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wd1v.mv.com Lines: 31 Announcing New WWW Site for Macintosh Ham Radio Enthusiasts http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Mac Ham Software including: Macnet Roster: a database of all hams in the world using Mac computers WD1V's Ham Radio Test Simulators: the fast path for upgrading your ham license with a Mac Plus more information - come see! LeCroy Corporation Test and Measurment Sales Engineering Serving NE Mass., NH, and ME WWW http://www.lecroy.com NASDAQ: (LCRY) (O)800-553-2769 (F)603-627-1623 (P)800-SKYPAGE #5956779 John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Dr. |_| |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam (H)603-668-1096 | | | | | wd1v@wd1v.ampr.org [44.52.7.21] Opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ Obtain the latest copy automatically! Send me an EMAIL with "subscribe scope.faq" in the subject field (or) http://beam.slac.stanford.edu/www/library/w3/dso.html From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: (((((( Fetish Hotline Call 011-592-589-352 ))))) Date: 8 Nov 1995 10:45:38 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <47q1oi$ig7@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47p33n$4eb@news2.his.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: temp995@ips.ca Buddy are you ever in the wrong forum. These people do not even have sex. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!news.enter.net!usenet From: Ken Florence Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (no subject) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 22:08:01 -0800 Organization: ENTER.NET Lines: 8 Message-ID: <30A19AC1.706A@enter.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp0.enter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b1 (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11467 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94068 I would like to build an antenna tuner for 2 meters and 220. Something that works on both, or plans for a unit to wrk one or the other wud be great. Can anyone point me to a book or magazine article on the above? Only needs to handle 100 watts or so. Thanks. -- Ken Florence KA3PLS kenf@enter.net From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:33 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!gvls1!rossi From: rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Message-ID: <1995Nov7.033307.4787@VFL.Paramax.COM> Sender: news@VFL.Paramax.COM Nntp-Posting-Host: gvlf6-a Organization: Loral Defense Systems-Eagan - Paoli, PA References: <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 03:33:07 GMT Lines: 21 In article mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White) writes: >>In these times, the FCC has had to save some $ and have been turning off >>the propagation generators for many hours of the day. > >Come on, fellows; stop pulling this guy's leg. Everyone knows that funding >for 10 meters was dropped from the FCC's budget about 3 years ago. We >should all write our congress-people to lobby for reinstatement of the >funding. If past legislative efforts are any indication, we can probably >get 10 meters restored in about 3-4 years. > >Mike, N4PDY Nah.. Not that long. Depending on how the elections go this week, I think we will see some partial return of funding in by the spring :-) --- Pete Rossi - WA3NNA rossi@vfl.paramax.com Loral Defense Systems-Eagan (formerly Unisys Government Systems Group) Valley Forge Engineering Center - Paoli, Pennsylvania From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!mayonews.mayo.edu!newsdist.tc.umn.edu!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!brutus.bright.net!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.kolumbus.fi!news.csc.fi!nokia.fi!ntc.nokia.com!trepc227!ilkka.kontola From: ilkka.kontola@nmp.nokia.com (Ilkka Kontola) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:48:40 Organization: Nokia Mobile Phones Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: trepc227.nmp.nokia.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> Bruce Goldstein writes: >Instead of listening on 10M, Give a CQ. You never know >who is also listening!) > > - 73 I think this was very good hint. I guess that in (relatively) sparsely ham-populated areas such as here in Scandinavia most of the VHF/UHF openings go unnoticed since everyone is listening (and no one calling CQ). During solar minima the 28 MHz is more like 50 MHz (which is, by definition, a VHF band) than other HF bands. Please read the next very carefully: I do not like nor encourage 27 MHz self-made (pirate) "amateurs" using 27.555 MHz. I have noticed that at times when 28 MHz seems completely dead there is often lots of traffic in the pirate band. Real, licended amateur radio operators move to lower frequencies and do not even give 28 MHz a try during the times the band is supposed to be dead. 73, Ilkka OH3NJC ********************************************************************* Ilkka Kontola E-Mail: ilkka.kontola@nmp.nokia.com Nokia Mobile Phones Amateur packet radio: oh3njc@oh3rbr Tampere, Finland From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!news.uoregon.edu!cuhknntp!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MURSO From: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 7 Nov 1995 13:17:32 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 27 Message-ID: <47nm9c$ntv@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> ,<1995Nov7.033307.4787@VFL.Paramax.COM> Reply-To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov In article <1995Nov7.033307.4787@VFL.Paramax.COM>, rossi@VFL.Paramax.COM (Pete Rossi) writes: >In article mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White) writes: >>>In these times, the FCC has had to save some $ and have been turning off >>>the propagation generators for many hours of the day. >> >>Come on, fellows; stop pulling this guy's leg. Everyone knows that funding >>for 10 meters was dropped from the FCC's budget about 3 years ago. We >>should all write our congress-people to lobby for reinstatement of the >>funding. If past legislative efforts are any indication, we can probably >>get 10 meters restored in about 3-4 years. >> >>Mike, N4PDY > >Nah.. Not that long. Depending on how the elections go this week, I >think we will see some partial return of funding in by the spring :-) >> >Pete Rossi - WA3NNA >rossi@vfl.paramax.com >Loral Defense Systems-Eagan (formerly Unisys Government Systems Group) >Valley Forge Engineering Center - Paoli, Pennsylvania The truth is that since many of the Democrats do not understand radio propagation and the control circuitry for it, one of their KID appointments was playing with the knobs and broke them. No one in the executive branch has the slightest idea how to get things aligned again. Of course, they are trying to run the country with the same lack of knowledge. Mike KB9KFE (expecting bleeding heart liberal flames) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:36 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!io.org!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 18:31:11 GMT References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.25 Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM Lines: 19 -> In article <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> Bruce Goldstein writes: -> -> >Instead of listening on 10M, Give a CQ. You never know -> >who is also listening!) -> > -> > - 73 During the CQ World Wide VHF Contest, October 28 & 29th I made several contacts to Argentina on 10 meters from Vancouver, Canada. Its open once in a while the key is to watch 15 meters for action or like wise with 6 meters when there is Sporadic E. -- Scott Leaf ve7zvz@dowco.com Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech!newsjunkie.ans.net!inet.d48.lilly.com!evax01.d51.lilly.com!ga19989 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Message-ID: <1995Nov7.171929.1@evax01.d51.lilly.com> From: ga19989@evax01.d51.lilly.com Date: 7 Nov 95 17:19:29 EST References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> Distribution: world Nntp-Posting-Host: evax01.d51.lilly.com Lines: 20 In article <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com>, Kirk Prodzinski writes: > Anyone know when 10 is supposed to open up again ? > Ten HAS BEEN opening from time to time, even with cruddy sunspots, mostly to south america and caribbean, but worst case is short DX to west coast from my midwest location Just gotta be there at the right place and right time For ten to be open as much as it was two years ago (i.e. three years before the officially predicted sunspot trough/valley), check back in a year or three. it ain't dead, but you gotta look real hard for a pulse... worked a few stations in CQ SSB and sweepstakes Have faith Mel KJ9C From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.interlog.com!news.dra.com!news.mid.net!sbctri.tri.sbc.com!newspump.wustl.edu!news.ecn.bgu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Gareth Crispell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 7 Nov 1995 04:54:18 GMT Organization: Craigville Conference Center Lines: 20 Message-ID: <47mopq$8us@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: s201.ccsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Is it possible that this could be the beginning of the mother of all leg pulls? -- ..as for the mysteries of the Universe...they knew them not... And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble. gareth e-mail stranger@ccsnet.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: rhuffman@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Rick Huffman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 9 Nov 1995 10:40:01 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47t7ch$oil@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> <47t4j3$pve@prop.wes.army.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Butch Magee (butch@apollo.wes.army.mil) wrote: : Awww, c'mon guys,...I was watching CSPANN last night and they passed a : partial funding bill, therefore, 10Mtrs. will be up on occasion, partially : open for short periods, mostly down because of Demon-cratic lobby. Only : the push from the extreme religeous right (God), will get the band fully : functional in about 4 years. Hang in there! : Butch KF5DE PTL, Butch. God Bless Rick, N8KZK -- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!noc.near.net!news3.near.net!pscgate.progress.com!progress.progress.com!damelio From: damelio@roush.racing.com (Stephen D'Amelio) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 10 Nov 1995 21:29:54 GMT Organization: Roush Racing Lines: 27 Message-ID: <480g8i$93q@progress.progress.com> References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47itd2$2q5@composer.inav.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nascar.progress.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Alan Harp (harp@bnr.ca) wrote: : >> : >In these times, the FCC has had to save some $ and have been turning off : >the propagation generators for many hours of the day. (Sometimes they : >make some minor modifications to the generators and turn them on without : >formal notice -- Instead of listening on 10M, Give a CQ. You never know : >who is also listening!) : > : > - 73 : > : Yeh and alot of these no-code techs have a secret code that they : can key in on the touch-tone pad that turns off 10M. Gee Alan, I guess I better go get my code speed up so I can start shitting on fellow hams rather than just answering a simple question. Is this what the hobby is about, you must be proud. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Steve D'Amelio Systems Administrator Progress Software Corp. Platform Engineering 14 Oak Park Unix 5.4 / HPUX Bedford, MA 01730 damelio@progress.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bctel.net!unbc.edu!freenet.unbc.edu!nss.mag-net.com!canada!ve7tcp.ampr.org!ve7tcp.ampr.org!not-for-mail From: lyndon@ve7tcp.ampr.org (Lyndon Nerenberg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 10 M is supposed to open when ? Date: 8 Nov 1995 21:42:03 -0800 Organization: VE7TCP Lines: 12 Message-ID: <47s4bb$iab@ve7tcp.ampr.org> References: <47g1j2$gm7@wavefront.wavefront.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ve7tcp.ampr.org wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) writes: >10 is open almost every day. The path between North and South America is >especially reliable, although not very strong at this point in the solar >cycle. And almost every night. Turn your beam due north at midnight and start listening/hollering. You will often get a 10-30 minute opening right around midnight. And sometimes again around 0200. --lyndon From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!sdd.hp.com!usc!chi-news.cic.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!q.cc.nd.edu!user From: hideg.1@nd.edu (Steve Hideg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: A story Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 22:19:19 -0500 Organization: . Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <8036-25650603@ccsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: q.cc.nd.edu In article <8036-25650603@ccsnet.com>, k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: > Well I have at least one story to tell related to a spark transmitter. > When I was stationed at Otis AFB I had a lot of trouble sleeping because > the guy in the barracks near me played his AM radio real loud. So I > hooked up a buzzer to my 40 meter dipole and wrapped the buzzer in a > blanket (to silence the SOUND) and when he played the radio I turned on > the buzzer destroying his station. After several days of this I offered > my "help" suggesting that playing the radio too loud caused it to > "oscillate", he played it lower and he had no more problems. > > Burt Fisher > K1OIK I had an RF engineer friend who used to work in a lab where there was one fellow who listened to an FM radio quite a bit. Well, this friend used an HP signal generator that had FM capabilities and an audio input for modulation with a radio on the AM band. He basically arranged it so that no matter which frequency the guy tuned to on his FM radio, he would only hear WJR on 760AM in Detroit. --Steve, N8HSC From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!news.interlog.com!winternet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Alinco 6 mtr rig mods??? Date: 11 Nov 1995 04:44:38 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4819nm$tqa@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47vd4i$l5p@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >i bought this dang alinco 6 mtr mobile, and i cant even recieve cordless >phones, i have heard that there is a recieve mod with a simple keystroke How about a TRANSMIT mod for 49Mhz...now THAT would be fun! -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!cdc2.cdc.net!news1.cris.com!news2.acs.oakland.edu!newshub.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!news From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: AM/FM Radio w/Digital Presets Date: 07 Nov 1995 19:12:21 GMT Organization: General Motors R&D Center Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <46uugv$a9r@crusher.ici.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rinhp750.gmr.com In-reply-to: rflood@ici.net's message of Sun, 29 Oct 95 04:03:22 GMT In article <46uugv$a9r@crusher.ici.net> rflood@ici.net (Richard M. Flood) writes: > This probably isnt the best groups for this, but I havnt had much lucking > finding this type of radio in the usuall electronic stores. I figured somebody > in this group might know of a radio like this ..... You're right on both counts Rich. > Im looking for an AM/FM radio in the $50 range with digital presets. No CD, > Tape or remote. Just a plain am/fm radio. I want it for work, so anything more > exspensive and I would be too worried about it getting stolen at night. You > can get a digitaly tuned walkman, but no am/fm radios. Has anybody seen > anything like this in the $50 price range. Try the Radio Shack 12-626. It costs $39.99 and an AC adapter will bring it up another $10 or so. It's an AM/FM portable with a clock and alarm.. Their 12-1592 is a regular household clock radio that doesn't require an AC adapter. It's priced at $49.99. -- Val Breault vbreault@gmr.com \ /| ars N8OEF GM R&D Center - instrumentation dept. \ / | pres GM ARC My opinions are not necessarily those \ /__| HF mobile on of GM R&D or of the GM Corporation. \/ |___ 14.200 +/- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: klimas@uhavax.hartford.EDU Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Amateur Radio Webpages on Internet Date: 8 Nov 95 15:18:39 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 10 Message-ID: <00999154.6AE36C20.227@uhavax.hartford.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Looking for a ready-to-use set of Amateur Radio WWW Links? I've put the latest rev. of ham-www.html at: http://uhavax.hartford.edu/disk$userdata/faculty/newsvhf/www/ham-www.html Over 300 Ham-related WWW sites, sorted alphabetically with descriptions ! I'll be updating it periodically. Feel free to write it into your page. If you'd like instructions/background info with it, look next week at: ftp://ftp.coast.net/SimTel/win3/hamradio/ham-www2.zip -73, Ron WZ1V -email: klimas@uhavax.hartford.edu -N.E.W.S. Group VHF club URL: http://uhavax.hartford.edu/newsvhf From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!news.isp.net!newsadmin From: aklein@slip.net (aklein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna Restrictions Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 22:08:18 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sfasc150.slip.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 sdolmft@interaccess.com (Steven D. Olson) wrote: >There's a slight possibility that I might be moving to New Jersey within the >next year. Do not know what community, yet. I am wondering how to easily >find out what local antenna restrictions there are in any given community when >beginning to house hunt. First, I would suggest that you obtain a copy of PRB-1. Then, you'll know whether the restriction you're being told about is legal. (Locally, there's a restriction based on aesthetics. It's been successfully fought.) -- Al Klein - W2PMX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!delphi.cs.ucla.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail From: turner@safety.ics.uci.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna Restrictions Date: 8 Nov 1995 07:58:39 -0800 Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 39 Message-ID: <47qk3f$7of@safety.ics.uci.edu> References: <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: safety.ics.uci.edu In <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net> aklein@slip.net (aklein) writes: >sdolmft@interaccess.com (Steven D. Olson) wrote: >>There's a slight possibility that I might be moving to New Jersey within the >>next year. Do not know what community, yet. I am wondering how to easily >>find out what local antenna restrictions there are in any given community when >>beginning to house hunt. >First, I would suggest that you obtain a copy of PRB-1. Then, you'll >know whether the restriction you're being told about is legal. >(Locally, there's a restriction based on aesthetics. It's been >successfully fought.) Gee-whiz. This comes up every once in a while. PRB-1 will NOT tell you whether the restriction you see is legal or not. This is wrong. Interpretations of PRB-1 by YOUR Federal District Court, or better, by YOUR Federal Circuit Court of Appeals may give you the relevant rules. Local decisions are just that, local decisions. If you have a "friendly" town for amatuers, great, but that does not translate into a broader legal rule than local friendliness. PRB-1 is very general, and has been used to strike down ordinances (never CC&R's mind you) AND has FAILED against ordinances that prohibit antennas above 30 feet, I believe. It has been cited in Federal Court for the proposition that no tower might be reasonable, since wire antennas can work. REASONABLE advice: Sure, pick up PRB-1. Get the PRB-1 packet from the ARRL. Then read Overbeck, Antennas and the Law, 1994 in June '94 CQ magazine for a realistic overview. Do these things and you will be able to ask good, solid, intelligent questions about the situation of the locals, the local towns and the local ARRL VC's. You ought to consult them all. Clark WA3JPG From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna Restrictions Date: 9 Nov 1995 04:47:07 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47s14b$g6t@cc.iu.net> References: <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-12.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net>, aklein@slip.net (aklein) writes: >sdolmft@interaccess.com (Steven D. Olson) wrote: >>find out what local antenna restrictions there are in any given community when >>beginning to house hunt. >First, I would suggest that you obtain a copy of PRB-1. Then, you'll and then read the info in CQ magazine that was published a short while ago so you'll know the limits PRB-1 has today... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!news.aa.net!tsunami.ixa.net!nwlink.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:22:28 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 46 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10355 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93980 SB QST @ ARL $ARLB100 ARLB100 Morse requirement stays ZCZC AG67 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 100 ARLB100 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT October 31, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB100 ARLB100 More requirement stays On October 23, the 1995 World Radiocommunication Conference, WRC-95, opened in Geneva. As described in November 1995 QST, page 106, one of the matters expected to be raised at the conference was a New Zealand proposal to delete from the radio regulations of the International Telecommunication Union the requirement that amateurs demonstrate Morse code ability in order to be licensed to operate below 30 MHz. On Tuesday morning, October 31, New Zealand offered its proposal in Working Party 4C. While some other administrations expressed support, most who asked for the floor either opposed the change or said the time was not right and the issue needed further study within the amateur community. Summarizing the discussion, the chairman of the Working Party said that most comments opposed the proposal and that he would send the matter to the Working Group of the Plenary, which is responsible for agendas of future conferences, to consider adding it to a future agenda in 1997, 1999, or later. This was acceptable to New Zealand. WRC-95 is scheduled to complete its work on November 17. No conference decision is final until it has been approved in final form by the Plenary, usually late in the conference. Amateur Radio is represented at the ITU by the International Amateur Radio Union. Present at WRC-95 are IARU president Richard Baldwin, W1RU, secretary Larry Price, W4RA, and Region 1 vice chairman Wojciech Nietyksza, SP5FM. ARRL Technical Relations Manager Paul Rinaldo, W4RI, is a member of the United States delegation, and other national delegations also have Amateur Radio representatives. NNNN /EX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!rmstar.efi.com!nntp-hub.barrnet.net!inet-nntp-gw-1.us.oracle.com!news-out.internetmci.com!internetMCI!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 7 Nov 1995 02:36:39 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: <47mgnn$cqn@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <47ekhp$qmi@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-034.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) >Yes, but you forgot that the ARRL and W5YI would never support >this, because they'd lose too much money from their sales of >exam preparation materials. Think of all those code tape, >question pool answer guides, and video tapes they wouldn't be >able to sell. > >MD Yes, I also forgot how the Kleenex tissue company would lose money because the lil darlin's won't be wiping the tears from their eyes... Steve, WA2NHZ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 7 Nov 1995 02:27:18 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 8 Message-ID: <47mg66$cqn@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <$arlb100.1995@ampr.org> <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <47fmq4$99q@cc.iu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-034.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) I'm talking about the cry babies that complain about how learning a little morse code has destroyed their lives.. Whine Whine Boo Hoo!!! Steve, WA2NHZ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news1.digital.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLB102 FCC ISSUED CALL SIGN UPDATE Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:25:21 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 42 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlb102.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10368 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94144 SB QST @ ARL $ARLB102 ARLB102 FCC ISSUED CALL SIGN UPDATE ZCZC AG69 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 102 ARLB102 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT November 10, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB102 ARLB102 FCC ISSUED CALL SIGN UPDATE The following is a list of the FCC's most recently issued call signs as of November 1. District Group A Group B Group C Group D Extra Advanced Tech/Gen Novice 0 AA0ZS KG0ZQ ++ KB0UJJ 1 AA1OV KE1DJ N1WBH KB1BUW 2 AA2ZG KG2ER ++ KB2WEE 3 AA3MX KE3VD N3WHT KB3BLQ 4 AE4NK KT4FO ++ KF4EKP 5 AC5FN KK5UL ++ KC5RMU 6 AC6QH KQ6BK ++ KE6ZIM 7 AB7NA KJ7SG ++ KC7NPR 8 AA8UW KG8UF ++ KC8BKJ 9 AA9QL KG9EO ++ KB9LWZ N. Mariana KH0U AH0AW KH0EN WH0ABD Guam WH2Q AH2DA KH2OV WH2ANN Hawaii ++ AH6OH ++ WH6CYO Amer. Samoa AH8O AH8AH KH8CK WH8ABE Alaska ++ AL7QG ++ WL7CPJ Virgin WP2U KP2CH NP2IL WP2AIA Puerto Rico ++ KP4ZZ ++ WP4NEA ++Either all call signs in this group have been used or no new call signs have been recently issued in this district. NNNN /EX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLP047 Propagation de KT7H Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:24:58 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 45 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlp047.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10369 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94149 SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP047 ARLP047 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC AP16 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 47 ARLP047 From Tad Cook, KT7H Seattle, WA November 10, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB PROP ARL ARLP047 ARLP047 Propagation de KT7H Solar activity is unchanged, with very low solar flux and periods of zero visible sunspots. Flux values continue to drift around the low to mid seventies. The most active geomagnetic period was November 6, when the K index went to five. Stormy conditions are expected due to recurring coronal holes around November 14 to 16, and again from the 27th through December 2, although not as severe. November 20 through 25 should be quite stable and quiet. Sunspot Numbers for November 2 through 8 were 0, 0, 11, 0, 11, 11 and 34, with a mean of 9.6. 10.7 cm flux was 73, 72.6, 73.2, 75.1, 74.8, 73.3 and 76.3, with a mean of 74. The path projection for this week is to Lesotho, 7P, from Toronto, Ontario, Jacksonville, Florida and Oklahoma. From Toronto 80 meters should be open from 2200 to 0330z, 40 meters from 2100 to 0400 and 30 meters from 2000 to 2200. Check 20 meters from 1730 to 2000 and 17 meters from 1500 to 1800. From Jacksonville check 80 meters from 2230 to 0330z, 40 meters from 2200 to 0400, 30 meters from 2100 to 0300, 20 meters from 1900 to 2200 and 17 meters from 1630 to 2000. 15 meters should be open on most days from 1430 to 1900. From Oklahoma check 80 meters from 0000 to 0230z, 40 meters from 2300 to 0330, 30 meters from 2200 to 0100, 20 meters from 1930 to 2300, 17 meters from 1600 to 2100 and 15 meters from 1600 to 1930. NNNN /EX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLX068 Pact in alien search Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 8 Nov 1995 17:24:44 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 36 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlx068.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10358 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94041 SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX068 ARLX068 Pact in alien search ZCZC AX38 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 68 ARLX068 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT November 8, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX068 ARLX068 Pact in alien search The nonprofit SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence) League has entered into an agreement with Down East Microwave Inc. The company, owned by Steve Kostro, N2CEI since 1994, is located in Frenchtown, New Jersey, and manufactures equipment for amateurs for 6 meters and above. Under the agreement, according to SETI League Executive Director Paul Shuch, N6TX, Down East Microwave will produce and market amplifiers, filters, down-converters, and other receive equipment designed by SETI League engineers, with profits to be donated to the SETI League's research fund. Kostro said that ''radio amateurs are in a unique position to succeed where government agencies have thus far failed. SETI is no longer science fiction, but mainstream science, and Down East Microwave is pleased to have a role in this important research.'' An article about the search for extraterrestrial intelligence and the role that radio amateurs can play in it appeared in August 1995 QST on page 37. NNNN /EX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: jacobymike@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARRL Lightning Calculator wanted Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:22:21 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com Anybody have an old ARRL Lightning calculator that they'd care to sell? Thanks, Mike N3MA From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can an Advanced get a 1X3 Vanity Callsign? Date: 7 Nov 1995 20:47:46 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47ogli$1dn1@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com In article , John W. McClain wrote: > When the FCC gives the go-ahead, I would like to request a specific 1X3 >callsign but I don't know if my Advanced ticket allows me to get a 1X3. Does >anyone have an answer? I know tech+'s with a 1x3 and many generals have 1x3 calls so I assume the answer to your question is yes. I'm going to trade in KG7BK for W6RCA. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!hudson.lm.com!terrazzo.lm.com!not-for-mail From: georges@telerama.lm.com (george) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: code help Date: 8 Nov 1995 19:04:13 -0500 Organization: Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 24 Message-ID: <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: terrazzo.lm.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello all. After almost 30 years I have decided that it is time to get back into ham radio. I will need to learn the code again and could use some advice. I am considering getting some code tapes and am looking for opinions on how useful they are. I am looking at the Code Quick tapes by Wheeler Applied Research Lab of Palm Desert California and would appreciate comments, pro or con, from anyone who has experience with them. I would also like to hear of experiences with other brands. Other opinions would be gratefully considered. Thanks in advance for any help. George Stratemeier former WN3KOB -- ====================================================================== An armed society is a polite society. -Robert Heinlein- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwwi.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!usenet From: Michael Pleasants Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Code practice software for Mac Date: 8 Nov 1995 21:57:54 GMT Organization: Primenet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47r952$lja@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip079.phx.primenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) To: mtnbike@primenet.com X-URL: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc/93563-93663 Does anyone know where I can get a code practice program for MacIntosh computer? ..Thanks KC7JGE From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:05:59 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mv!wd1v.mv.com!user From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: Re: Code practice software for Mac Message-ID: Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:07:42 GMT References: <47r952$lja@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wd1v.mv.com Lines: 42 In article <47r952$lja@nnrp3.news.primenet.com>, Michael Pleasants wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a code practice program for MacIntosh > computer? > ..Thanks > KC7JGE The Macnet Holiday Software Collection on 10 New Disks just $30.00 (Each Stuffed with the Latest Self Extracting Public Domain Versions - 800k Disk) Shipped First Class Mail - Ppd! Macnet 1 Logs + Demos Macnet 2 DX + Contest Macnet 3 Educ + Rem Ctrl Macnet 4 Astro + FAX Macnet 5 Pkt Terminals + Macnet 6 Net/Mac TCP/IP +FAQ Macnet 7 Novice Test + (Or the Ham Test of Your Choice) Macnet 8 Sat Trackers + Dove Macnet 9 C/C++ Programming Tutors Macnet 10 Macnet Roster ("Whos Who" of Hams w/ Macs) Send Check or Money Order - Outside USA Send $40.00 All Orders Shipped within 48 Hours! John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Dr. |_| |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam (H)603-668-1096 | | | | | wd1v@wd1v.ampr.org [44.52.7.21] LeCroy Corporation Test & Measurment Sales Engineering Serving NE Mass., NH, and ME WWW http://www.lecroy.com NASDAQ: (LCRY) (O) 800-553-2769 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779 Opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ Obtain the latest Scope.FAQ automatically! EMAIL john@wd1v.mv.com w/ Sj: "subscribe scope.faq" (or) WWW http://beam.slac.stanford.edu/www/library/w3/dso.html From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cais.net!news.cais.com!news From: Avery Russell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CQ on Repeaters. Correct? Date: 10 Nov 1995 22:03:09 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Lines: 18 Message-ID: <480i6t$oaa@news.cais.com> References: <46ej3b$h9h@antares.en.com> <47t9ce$ov@fcnews.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp95.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: ron@fc.hp.com I don't think anyone if forcing you to use the repeaters. And what is wrong with the internet? You are using it now aren't you? Avery > But I rarely listen to 2m anymore anyway. It's too much like >the internet. > >Ron Miller >24 years in ham radio - old pharte before age 40 >NW0U From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gsparks@ix.netcom.com (Glenn Sparks) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Crystal CW Rig - Help! Date: 6 Nov 1995 15:23:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 26 Message-ID: <47l99n$1cj@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou10-20.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Nov 06 7:23:35 AM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11432 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93977 In <47d81r$696@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> ejacksch@bnr.ca (Eric Jacksch) writes: > >Hello all! > >I'm still looking for schematics for a very simple, single freqency >crystal controlled 8m cw transmitter and/or receiver. I have found >lots of fancy, tunable units, etc...what I need is a very stable, >one frequency unit. It's for telemetry - low power is fine! > >Email to ejacksch@bnr.ca would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Eric. I don't remember the years, but the ARRL handbook published a transmitter they called the Cubic Incher, I would guess about the 1985 timeframe. It was a cubic inch in size, and I beleive 1 watt output. Also a very simple single conversion receiver can also be constructed using a crystal for the LO, greatly simplifying the circuit. I beleive a Popular electronics about 5 years ago had the schematics for this. Sorry I can't be more specific, I made a great sacrifice, We have a foreign exchange student from Paraguay and ALL of my reference material is stored for the year along with most of my test gear. KI5GY Sparky From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:02 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mv!wd1v.mv.com!user From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: Re: CW Speed-building on Mac Message-ID: Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:27:49 GMT References: <47g7ch$7t1@netnews.upenn.edu> <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: wd1v.mv.com Lines: 41 In article <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM>, jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger wrote: > > > >Send Check or Money Order - Outside USA Send $40.00 > >All Orders Shipped within 48 Hours! > > > > John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com > > Come on John, this is getting a little old. > I'd welcome the advertising here, but just not quite so > much and so often. Maybe you might like to add to the discussions > that go on here without you. > > Just my .02 worth (is that Visa or Mastercard?) > > -- > ___________________________________________________________________________ > John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author > Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. Hi John: Maybe you're right. I won't post anything anymore - I'll just send EMAIL to the specific person that asks the typical question of "where can I find...." 73, John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Dr. |_| |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam (H)603-668-1096 | | | | | wd1v@wd1v.ampr.org [44.52.7.21] LeCroy Corporation Test & Measurment Sales Engineering Serving NE Mass., NH, and ME WWW http://www.lecroy.com NASDAQ: (LCRY) (O) 800-553-2769 (F) 603-627-1623 (P) 800-SKYPAGE #5956779 Opinions are my own, including Digital Storage Scope.FAQ Obtain the latest Scope.FAQ automatically! EMAIL john@wd1v.mv.com w/ Sj: "subscribe scope.faq" (or) WWW http://beam.slac.stanford.edu/www/library/w3/dso.html From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Speed-building on Mac Date: 10 Nov 1995 17:32:22 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4802b6$dog@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <47g7ch$7t1@netnews.upenn.edu> <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , John Seney wrote: >In article <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM>, jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com >(John Minger wrote: >> >Send Check or Money Order - Outside USA Send $40.00 >> >All Orders Shipped within 48 Hours! >> > John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com >> Come on John, this is getting a little old. >> I'd welcome the advertising here, but just not quite so >> much and so often. Maybe you might like to add to the discussions >> that go on here without you. >> Just my .02 worth (is that Visa or Mastercard?) >> -- >> John A Minger KE6DTC >Hi John: >Maybe you're right. I won't post anything anymore - I'll just send EMAIL >to the specific person that asks the typical question of "where can I >find...." > 73, John D. Seney john@wd1v.mv.com [above sigs edited to shorten post] Thanks. I didn't mean to kill off the whole thing. I'm a Mac user myself and always used to read these posts for Mac software. The only problem was that I kept seeing the same posting. Maybe I'm the only one who thought so, since I haven't yet seen any other responses in the thread. 73, -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bighorn.accessnv.com!bighorn.accessnv.com!not-for-mail From: ad7k@bighorn.accessnv.com (Squeak Porray) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dealers in Vegas? Date: 8 Nov 1995 15:35:48 -0800 Organization: accessnv.com Lines: 26 Message-ID: <47resk$nhj@bighorn.accessnv.com> References: <46kmee$ffa@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> <1995Oct30.072301.8287@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: bighorn X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mike Morris (morris@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us) wrote: : pineapp@netcom.com (Daniel Curry) writes: : >Gary McDuffie, Sr. (mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us) wrote: : >: I have a chance to go to Las Vegas next month. Are there any good "candy : >: stores" (ham dealers) there? Anything else to do? Sorry, no interest in the : >: gambling scene. Amateur Electronic Supply 1072 North Rancho Drive Las Vegas NV 89106 local tel 702 647 3114 tollfree 800 634 6227 fax 702 647 3412 Located approximately 3 blocks north of the US-95 Expressway, just north of Washington Avenue, on Rancho Drive. Approximately 1 1/2 miles, airline, from downtown Las Vegas Enjoy your trip, and your stay in Las Vegas - hope to see ou while you are here! 73, "Squeak" Porray, AD7K Manager, Amateur Electronic Supply/Las Vegas From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!stallion.jsums.edu!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: jyazel@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Jack Yazel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Decoder for PC (RTTY, MORSE, etc.) Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Date: 10 Nov 1995 18:32:54 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 25 Message-ID: <480nf6$i52@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94143 rec.radio.shortwave:65888 : If I might be allowed to complain for a moment... : Somebody asks about a RTTY/WEFAX/CW SoundBlaster decoder every few : months. And everytime the question gets asked, somebody answers that : there is a program at SIMTEL called "WXMAN". Well, I'm here to tell you : right now that there IS NO program at SIMTEL called WXMAN. And it isn't : So, can anyone out tell us where WXMAN is? If not, does anyone know of a I can't tell you where to find WXMAN in the internet, but it does appear in two of my shareware CD-Roms as WXMAN20.ZIP. The description indicates that it is for receiving weather maps. The CD-Roms are: So Much Shareware /5 (Power User Software, Inc. P.O. Box 89, Erie, Pa. 16512) Shareware Studio IV (Data Express, Inc. 11030 NW 26th Place, Sunrise, FL 33322) I hope this helps some. JY From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.monad.net!NewsWatcher!user From: cybertek@top.monad.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Disney World Repeater PL ? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 23:30:50 -0400 Organization: MonadNet Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cybertek.top.monad.net Disney World Repeater PL ? 11-10-95 I am making a trip down to Disney World and would like to know if the repeaters down there require PL. I am only aware of two repeaters in the area 147.3 and 442.0 I would appreciate it if some one could tell me if a PL tone is required. Also if I would be interested in the coverage of these repeaters though out the park. I am planning to bring down a couple of HTs. Thanks, Dale E-Mail cybertek@top.monad.net From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:08 1995 Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!miwok!news-out.internetmci.com!internetMCI!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.duke.edu!news-server.ncren.net!concert!rti!usenet From: jbs@rti.org (Joe Simpson) Subject: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Message-ID: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> Sender: usenet@rti.rti.org (USENET News System) Reply-To: jbs@rti.org Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 13:37:09 GMT Lines: 43 Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110511 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93994 This weekend I had a sobering experience with my (relatively new) Magellan Trailblazer XL. Using map and compass, I hiked to a known location, a hilltop about a quarter mile from my camp, elevation just under 900 feet. At the top of the hill, I got out the GPS and prepared to store the hilltop location as a waypoint. After locking onto 5 satellites, the unit proceeded to tell me authoritatively that I was about 7 km southwest of my actual location, and that I was around 15,000 feet above sea level to boot! I powered it down and back up, and after the usual annoying under-the-trees delay, the unit locked on 5 satellites again - and told me that I was about 1.5 km east of my actual location, and that my elevation was now just over 14,000 feet. Additional tries with the unit reporting 4 and 5 satellites locked yielded similar (though varying) results. The "unreliable data" indicator was not on, and there was no other indication that the unit had any clue that it was, well, clueless. I bagged it and proceeded with my hike to another hilltop a couple of km away by map and compass, stopping in a clearcut area along the way to try the receiver again without trees overhead, with roughly the same results (and still over 14,000'). Back to the factory it goes. Saturday night about an hour after dark two deer hunters with bows, flashlights, a GPS receiver, and nothing much else but light clothing came through my camp on the way back to theirs, navigating solely by GPS. They could have been in a pretty fix had they experienced a failure on the scale of the one I had; temperatures fell into the twenties that night. This really underscores the fact that a GPS receiver should not be solely relied upon for backcountry navigation; like any other device it can fail, and in some situations you'd better darned well (a) have backup navigation means, and (b) know or be able to determine where you are. So, in short, take that GPS unit with you, but don't forget the compass and map, and the skill to use them. -joe From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.math.psu.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!drm6!drm6 From: drm6@psu.edu (Drew R. McGhee) Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:15:35 GMT Organization: CAC Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: zag.aa.psu.edu X-Authinfo-User: drm6@psu.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110625 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94060 In article <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> jbs@rti.org (Joe Simpson) writes: >This weekend I had a sobering experience with my (relatively new) >Magellan Trailblazer XL. Using map and compass, I hiked to a known >location, a hilltop about a quarter mile from my camp, elevation just >under 900 feet. At the top of the hill, I got out the GPS and >prepared to store the hilltop location as a waypoint. After locking >onto 5 satellites, the unit proceeded to tell me authoritatively that >I was about 7 km southwest of my actual location, and that I was >around 15,000 feet above sea level to boot! Stuff deleted >The "unreliable data" indicator was not on, and there was no other >indication that the unit had any clue that it was, well, clueless. I >bagged it and proceeded with my hike to another hilltop a couple of km >away by map and compass, stopping in a clearcut area along the way to >try the receiver again without trees overhead, with roughly the same >results (and still over 14,000'). The rest deleted Greetings to Joe and the group, Last year, a faculty member here got a GPS unit (sorry forgot model and brand) to assist in his research. He couldn't get it to work right. He brought it to me to take a look at it. I took it home to play with it for the weekend. He was going to send it back because he thought something was wrong with it. It would take forever (15 to 20 minutes) to give a location and then it was wrong. I read the instructions to make sure I was using it correctly, which I was. I assumed it was initialised correctly. It was not. He had accidently put in somewhere in the southern hemisphere. Once this was changed, it worked correctly. Just a thought. Drew R. McGhee Altoona, PA From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!winternet.com!news From: ejuly@winternet.com Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 11:01:18 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 12 Message-ID: <47sjaj$7fs@blackice.winternet.com> References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-66-118.dialup.winternet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110671 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94084 jbs@rti.org (Joe Simpson) wrote: >So, in short, take that GPS unit with you, but don't forget the >compass and map, and the skill to use them. > -joe BTW, compasses are usually wrong 40-50% of the time. Never trust your compass either. From my desk to yours. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc107.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:39:57 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> <47sjaj$7fs@blackice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc107.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110705 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94105 >ejuly@winternet.com writes: >>jbs@rti.org (Joe Simpson) wrote: >> >>So, in short, take that GPS unit with you, but don't forget the >>compass and map, and the skill to use them. > >BTW, compasses are usually wrong 40-50% of the time. Never trust your >compass either. Yea, but you can calibrate your compass every sun-up and sun-down. I did about four 5 mile hikes in survival school, and with triangulation, the compass and map is all the technology you need to navigate. Hikers don't need altitude, and the latitude and longitude are about as useful as... well, you know what they say :-) The compass error (due to magnetic disturbances, etc) is easily recognized about the second time you triangulate. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:12 1995 Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!news-server.ncren.net!concert!rti!usenet From: jbs@rti.org (Joe Simpson) Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Message-ID: <1995Nov11.063852.23218@rti.rti.org> Sender: usenet@rti.rti.org (USENET News System) Reply-To: jbs@rti.org Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 06:39:17 GMT Lines: 26 Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110778 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94152 drm6@psu.edu (Drew R. McGhee) wrote: >Last year, a faculty member here got a GPS unit (sorry forgot model and >brand) to assist in his research. He couldn't get it to work right. He brought >it to me to take a look at it. I took it home to play with it for the >weekend. He was going to send it back because he thought something was wrong >with it. It would take forever (15 to 20 minutes) to give a location and then >it was wrong. I read the instructions to make sure I was using it correctly, >which I was. I assumed it was initialised correctly. It was not. He had >accidently put in somewhere in the southern hemisphere. Once this was changed, >it worked correctly. Just a thought. Well, it was at one time initialized correctly, and for several months has been giving "correct" (i.e., believable) readings. I suppose it could have lost its initialization data. I haven't shipped it back yet, so I'll try reinitializing it first and see what happens. Even if this is the culprit, it's still a failure mode - there's no indication that the initialization was lost or the unit realizes anything is wrong. In reply to the party who pointed out that compasses are "wrong" 40-50% of the time: that may be, but I've never seen one as far off as this GPS was... -joe From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:13 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!pgh!cliff From: cliff@pgh.nauticom.net (Cliff Frescura K3LL) Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 03:55:24 GMT References: <8029112339801@ccsnet.com> <47eeho$o1c@tekadm1.cse.tek.com> <47fht6$r28@alterdial.UU.NET> Organization: Nauticom - Internet Access Provider X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 45 Yea, like - I'm leaving the room and and turning off the lights. You are through with the repeater about 20 seconds after you stop transmitting. The same people that say "clear and listening" or "nothing heard" are the same lids that will plop down on the frequency and start transmitting without listening for 30 seconds (see above). I think these people just like to hear their callsigns or like to transmit. Funny thing too- I've heard the "nothing heard" transmissions DOUBLE with the person they were originally calling!! -Cliff K3LL A jaded repeater trustee Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) wrote: : Linley F Gumm wrote: : >When using a repeater to call someone who does not answer, I often : >come back and say "nothing heard" as a way of saying that I have given : >up and the repeater is now free. : > : >I appreciate it when others say something to indicate that they are through : >with the repeater. : Do you say to your family, "no answer" when you call someone on the phone : so they know the phone is free? : Why do hams persist is using 10,000 words when none will suffice? : #================#=====================================================# : | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | : | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | : | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | : #================#=====================================================# : | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | : #======================================================================# -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |cliff@nauticom.net K3LL @ W3UDX.#WPA.PA.USA.NOAM | | k3ll@nauticom.net "Adapt, Migrate, or Die." | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!winternet.com!mschwarz From: mschwarz@winternet.com (Michael Schwarz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Date: 9 Nov 1995 20:48:27 GMT Organization: StarNet Communications, Inc Lines: 24 Message-ID: <47tper$svl@blackice.winternet.com> References: <47d7j1$q38$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <47o4dl$afr@wing.redshift.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: subzero.winternet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Greg Pool (wh6dt@amsat.org) wrote: : Peter Coffee AC6EN <72631.113@CompuServe.COM> wrote: : >A useful way of letting the called station know, for example, that : >its attempt to answer was not heard because its transceiver was in : >simplex mode, or because its transmit power was not sufficient. : >There are plenty of times when you can hear the repeater but it can't : >hear you. "Nothing heard" isn't meant for the ears of everyone else : >on the repeater; it's meant to let the called station know that if : >it's trying to answer, it needs to try something different. Forgive me if I'm being dense, but don't most repeaters use the "courtesy beep?" Every single one I've used on VHF and UHF in the Minneapolis area does. Even if it does not, don't most hold the output transmitter up for a brief period after the input COR drops? I've always known when I've failed to bring up the repeater. Is this just parochial ignorance on my part or are "beep-less" repeaters common outside my metro area? Just curious... 73s DE N0ZES Mike From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:15 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jgardner From: jgardner@netcom.com (Jerry Gardner) Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <8029112339801@ccsnet.com> <47eeho$o1c@tekadm1.cse.tek.com> <47fht6$r28@alterdial.UU.NET> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:50:55 GMT Lines: 33 Sender: jgardner@netcom16.netcom.com Cliff Frescura K3LL (cliff@pgh.nauticom.net) wrote: : Yea, like - I'm leaving the room and and turning off the lights. : You are through with the repeater about 20 seconds after you stop : transmitting. The same people that say "clear and listening" or "nothing : heard" are the same lids that will plop down on the frequency and start : transmitting without listening for 30 seconds (see above). : I think these people just like to hear their callsigns or like to transmit. : Funny thing too- I've heard the "nothing heard" transmissions DOUBLE with the : person they were originally calling!! : -Cliff K3LL : A jaded repeater trustee Here are the ones that get to me: 1) "W6XYZ for ID". Why else do you use your call if not for ID? 2) "I'll be clear on your final". So what? 3) Nonsense words like "destinated". 4) Slang borrowed from CB: "My personal is Joe." 5) Use of the CW laugh, "hi hi", on voice modes. 6) 73's. 73 means "best regards". What does 73's mean? Best regardses? 7) Excessive use of "we" and "our" instead of "I" and "my". 8) Excessive use of the third-person: "The rig here is an ionsmasher 1000". 9) Excessive use of phonetics on repeaters when signals are full-quieting. 10) Excessive use of "cute" phonetics. -- Jerry Gardner | Maintainer of the Large Format Digest jgardner@netcom.com | Send subscription requests to jgardner@netcom.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!gatech2!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Date: 10 Nov 1995 11:50:19 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: <47ve9r$8gu@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47d7j1$q38$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <47o4dl$afr@wing.redshift.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: jgardner@netcom.com jgardner@netcom.com (Jerry Gardner) wrote: >This is the dumbest rationalization I've ever heard! I think the fact >that the calling station didn't respond to my reply would be ample >evidence that he wasn't hearing me. Please stop it. Hams do not understand common sense. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Date: 10 Nov 1995 11:49:48 GMT Lines: 19 Message-ID: <47ve8s$8gu@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47d7j1$q38$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <47o4dl$afr@wing.redshift.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: jgardner@netcom.com jgardner@netcom.com (Jerry Gardner) wrote: >This is the dumbest rationalization I've ever heard! I think the fact >that the calling station didn't respond to my reply would be ample >evidence that he wasn't hearing me. Please stop it. Hams do not understand common sense. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!badger.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!sparky!nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us!usenet From: mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb and dumber Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:17:51 GMT Organization: AG0N's Radio Ranch Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47vqbk$7pi@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> References: <47d7j1$q38$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <47o4dl$afr@wing.redshift.com> <47tper$svl@blackice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.206.239.246 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 On 9 Nov 1995 20:48:27 GMT, mschwarz@winternet.com (Michael Schwarz) wrote: >Is this just parochial ignorance on my part or >are "beep-less" repeaters common outside my metro area? Yes, quite common. Although, with the lower cost controllers around, there are more and more smaller (rural) areas adding one to their repeater. Many people see them as too "flashy". _____ _____ _____ ___ _____ | __|___ ___ _ _ ___ | _ | __| | | | | | | .'| _| | | |___| | | | | | | | | | |_____|__,|_| |_ | |__|__|_____|___|_|___| |___| mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:19 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: EARTALK From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!van-bc!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47222.4727.0N1FCFFD@canrem.com> References: <47jdqa$cbm@oxy.rust.net> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:31:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 23 >that also is a microphone? >Barry KB6CV Br> I've had one of those. They work great and also have a good audio Br> quaility in the mic. If you have a use for one I would recomend it. Br> I bought mine used and don't know where a new one could be obtained. I'm not sure where to get one either, but wouldn't you get a lot of strange looks walking down the street, appearing to be talking to nobody? Depending on your neighborhood, I guess this could be seen as normal behavior, but I sure wouldn't do it. 73 Chris. .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!bildin From: bildin@news.dorsai.org (Bill Hindin) Subject: Re: EARTALK Message-ID: Sender: news@dorsai.org (Keeper of the News) Organization: The Dorsai Embassy - New York X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <47jdqa$cbm@oxy.rust.net> <60.47222.4727.0N1FCFFD@canrem.com> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:17:12 GMT Lines: 36 Chris Smart (chris.smart@canrem.com) wrote: : >that also is a microphone? : >Barry KB6CV : Br> I've had one of those. They work great and also have a good audio : Br> quaility in the mic. If you have a use for one I would recomend it. : Br> I bought mine used and don't know where a new one could be obtained. : I'm not sure where to get one either, but wouldn't you get a lot of : strange looks walking down the street, appearing to be talking to nobody? : Depending on your neighborhood, I guess this could be seen as normal : behavior, but I sure wouldn't do it. : 73 : Chris. : .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! : ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 Barry/Chris: : I have seen this unit (or one like it) on sale at AES in Milwaukee : recently. It was quite expensive, about $80. : BILL -- BILL HINDIN (AA2TF) INTERNET: BILDIN@DORSAI.ORG VOICE: (212) 222-3664 "Captain, the crystals....." From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: NCZN58B@prodigy.com (James Dean) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: EARTALK Date: 9 Nov 1995 06:28:33 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47s72h$1tga@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47jdqa$cbm@oxy.rust.net> <60.47222.4727.0n1fcffd@canrem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap5.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 A company called MCM electronics sells two models, 1 for Kenwood, and 1 for most others. A lot of electronics stores get their catalog. I paid about $50.00 for mine and it works fine. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Excessive header returned, enjoy: ARLD057 DX news Date: 10 Nov 1995 01:20:07 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <47u9c7$lct@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <$arld057.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: w1aw@arrl.org w1aw@arrl.org wrote: > >SB DX @ ARL $ARLD057 >ARLD057 DX news > >ZCZC AE33 >QST de W1AW >DX Bulletin 57 ARLD057 >From ARRL Headquarters >Newington CT November 9, 1995 >To all radio amateurs > >SB DX ARL ARLD057 >ARLD057 DX news #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!rclnews.eng.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!news From: Tim Helbing Newsgroups: alt.fan.dune,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Date: 8 Nov 1995 03:03:59 GMT Organization: Indiana University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47p6mv$glo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <47ojlr$p9f@s02.pavilion.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: helbing-timothy.eigenmann.indiana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net alt.fan.dune:6461 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94019 Let the Jihad commence! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tim! "the best defense is a good offense, and a mobile one too!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!oronet!news From: rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) Newsgroups: alt.fan.dune,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:53:14 GMT Organization: RST Engineering Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4805l5$jc9@hg.oro.net> References: <47ojlr$p9f@s02.pavilion.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: rst-engr.oro.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net alt.fan.dune:6481 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94125 iliffe@pavilion.co.uk (Richard Iliffe) wrote: [snip in consideration of bandwidth] And if you need a 55mm Wouff Hong gunner, I'm available. Jim Jim Weir VP Engineering | "We seem to be standing on RST Engineering | the foreskin of technology." Grass Valley CA 95945 | (Gen Chuck Yeager) voice/fax 916/272-1432 | rst-engr@oro.net AR Adv WB6BHI CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!purdue!lerc.nasa.gov!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!wildcat From: wildcat@teleport.com (Ken Rea) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: For Sale: IFR 500A Communications Service Monitor Date: 9 Nov 1995 16:47:03 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47tba7$a0h@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kelly.teleport.com Keywords: IFR 500A Service Monitor X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] For Sale: IFR 500A Communications Service Monitor. Very nice shape, has only one owner - me. Not used for business. Has optional TCXO. Comes with all manuals and carrying case. This is a nice piece of equipment that is also small and light. Great for in field use. Price $4000.00 If serious please give me a call, I'm in Portland, Oregon. Ken Rea (503) 639-0828 -- wildcat@teleport.COM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!castle.nando.net!news From: johnmb@nando.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Form 610 on line? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 02:42:22 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access Lines: 10 Message-ID: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail404.nando.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to get a form in my new location. Thanks /john wb5oau/4 PS: Barring that... who else has them? The Federal Radio Relay League? From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!olivea!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!news.ucdavis.edu!burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu!ctbaker From: ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Form 610 on line? Date: 7 Nov 1995 06:13:28 GMT Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis Lines: 21 Message-ID: <47mte8$4qc@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] johnmb@nando.net wrote: : Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? : I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to : get a form in my new location. : Thanks : /john : wb5oau/4 : PS: Barring that... who else has them? The Federal Radio Relay League? I remember seeing a copy of the 610 form in postscript format somewhere... I was able to get extra copies of it by calling the FCC fax on demand line at 202-418-0177 and request form "000610" Remember you must be using a fax machine or a fax modem to receive this document and it must be printed in the same orangish color as the original forms. Chad From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!watt.oedison.com!usenet From: wagnerj@watt.oedison.com (John Wagner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Form 610 on line? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 20:40:44 GMT Organization: Ohio Edison Company, Akron OH Lines: 33 Message-ID: <47oftv$31cc@watt.oedison.com> References: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: go-bus-appl-4-8x.oedison.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 On Tue, 07 Nov 1995 02:42:22 GMT johnmb@nando.net wrote: >Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? >I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to >get a form in my new location. >Thanks >/john >wb5oau/4 I've received the forms from the FCC via snail-mail from an e-mail request. Send your request to fccinfo@fcc.gov, Include your new mailing address and what you want, and it'll be in your (postal)mailbox in 2 or 3 days. John, N8CID ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Wagner wagnerj@watt.oedison.com -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzCbmRAAAAEH/2XyyuEu+F2a5SmdU2P+62bAPivG1+5A4mmjy6diK3pW3lW4 sUfxiv0UzZrDC+nicvNW3GlazwM2Oc2dLwlX/OX9CszWDryg5rK4Ga8X5dj1mlac QwG2ESHUIbCkOLUvXJOWDFhuFNtrTk1q1aepRWg1YsRxFnHqBaQCdBX2c3ctE6T3 vQJk/4FMimpQcPNEupCUtX8lk2rly1GSeIUxvY95eZXhdQZyK7Uiquyokc1bxBwb 7uhNtNhjNi7JpI4wtTP1uC1bGaXLWCAw6w6JHXnFspPqcgRKjn0y0ZUeiYJ7lc1R G+qfmoIsWwtsHz/Skb4UfuTaakhD8uL+eM1x48EABRG0HkpvaG4gV2FnbmVyIDxX YWduZXJKV0Btc24uY29tPg== =WVd9 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!canyon.sr.hp.com!news From: John Mullan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Form 610 on line? Date: 7 Nov 1995 20:47:56 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Sonoma County Lines: 30 Message-ID: <47ogls$amp@canyon.sr.hp.com> References: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> <47mte8$4qc@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: catv2.sr.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/725) X-URL: news:47mte8$4qc@mark.ucdavis.edu ctbaker@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) wrote: >johnmb@nando.net wrote: >: Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? >: I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to >: get a form in my new location. > >: Thanks >: /john >: wb5oau/4 > >: PS: Barring that... who else has them? The Federal Radio Relay League? > >I remember seeing a copy of the 610 form in postscript format >somewhere... I was able to get extra copies of it by calling the FCC fax >on demand line at 202-418-0177 and request form "000610" > >Remember you must be using a fax machine or a fax modem to receive this >document and it must be printed in the same orangish color as the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >original forms. > >Chad > No longer true. I recently got a 610 via fax, and since it was not on thermal paper, filled it in, mailed it in, and it was accepted no problem. All they ask is that if you receive on thermal fax paper - noticeable by its shiny surface - that you copy it onto regular paper before filling and filing. 73 de KD2LQ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:29 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: Form 610 on line? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> <47oftv$31cc@watt.oedison.com> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 03:29:58 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: charles1@netcom7.netcom.com In article <47oftv$31cc@watt.oedison.com>, John Wagner wrote: >On Tue, 07 Nov 1995 02:42:22 GMT johnmb@nando.net wrote: > >>Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? >>I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to >>get a form in my new location. > >>Thanks >>/john >>wb5oau/4 > >I've received the forms from the FCC via snail-mail from an e-mail request. >Send your request to fccinfo@fcc.gov, Include your new mailing address and >what you want, and it'll be in your (postal)mailbox in 2 or 3 days. > All Radio Shack Ham books have the 610 form in the back, but it will cost you $6 for the book. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:30 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock From: dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) Subject: Re: GM4ZNX and High level mixers Sender: news@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com (SQF News Admin) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:11:30 GMT References: <47ad96$vma@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: hpqmocc.sqf.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard LTD, South Queensferry, Scotland X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.8] Lines: 12 Yes, I had fun with that receiver project. I may have that QST, somewhere, I'll dig it out tonight. Regards passed to Hugh (Sometimes referred to as "wee Shuggie" - a sort of Scots vernacular wind-up as he's of a rather tall/thin aspect ratio). Pat Hawker mentioned that Horrabin had patented the grounded-source passive DMOS fet mixer. Does anyone know the number? Cheers David GM4ZNX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:31 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.lists,alt.bbs.wildcat,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,alt.bbs, Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!kb6axk From: kb6axk@netcom.com (Joe Cira) Subject: HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 02:20:44 GMT Lines: 47 Sender: kb6axk@netcom4.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94147 comp.bbs.misc:26143 alt.bbs.ads:27273 alt.bbs.lists:16113 alt.bbs.wildcat:22598 rec.radio.scanner:40561 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12551 rec.radio.shortwave:65890 alt.bbs:53784 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Summary: Keywords: HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!! HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!! There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your ARRL/LAX affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ........... Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here, IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!! HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952.... 24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed....... running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!! cd/rom's soon and TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!! qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility mods,programs,test ques,lists,and more.... VEC/VE exam & class list for all So.Cal. sample exam tests and answers for all class's.. ARRL mirror of all there files ! Using Wildcat v4.11 software.. easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE ! 5,475 FILES IN 115 FILE AREA'S..so far ! ***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING********** ARE YOU ON THE HAM USERS LIST ??????? 73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC. INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> kb6axk@netcom.com /EX S -- US AMATEUR RADIO |sysop of the HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS| KB6AXK | at 1-818-584-1952,joe cira | PASADENA,CAL,91107| kb6axk@netcom.com | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hams that have had sex. Date: 7 Nov 1995 02:19:14 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47mfn2$ol5@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <47iooi$h6j@omnifest.uwm.edu> <47lctg$pog@shiva.usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) jay@earth.usa.net (Jay Huldeen) wrote: > >people do when working pileups on 20m. For the record, I always >disagree with Burt and his comments. ^^^^^^ >^^^^^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ >-- >Jay Huldeen, N0FSB >jay@usa.net I think you are mature and very intelligent and women find you attractive. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.alt.net!news.redshift.com!usenet From: Greg Pool Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hams that have had sex. Date: 7 Nov 1995 17:15:20 GMT Organization: Pacificon '95 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <47o478$afr@wing.redshift.com> References: <9510101600321772@digcir.cts.com> <45ofe4$pf2@alterdial.UU.NET> <45p2v6$44d@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <45p6ce$3e0@louie.udel.edu> <46h5g6$75n@news.paonline.com> <46hd87$455@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> <46l2cc$q2a@alterdial.UU.NET> <47bom4$btu@usenet.continental.com> <47csoj$7sd@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: red207.redshift.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: k10ik@ccsnet.com Burt Fisher wrote: >When either ham radio becomes interesting or they care about their >spouses. A voyeur would have a great time with the wives of hams as those >poor women are so left alone. Which means if we keep answering this USENET voyeur, and he keeps feeling the need to answer, _his_ wife will leave him! So make sure to carbon your comments to k10ik@ccsnet.com! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!news.worldlinx.com!news From: Barry Mercer Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Heathkit voltmeter Date: 8 Nov 1995 13:48:20 GMT Organization: WorldLinx Telecommunications Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <47qcf4$nkk@news.worldlinx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.101.235.178 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12(Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc I need the instructions for setting up a heath kit 1212 digital voltmeter. I'll happily pay for copying and mail costs. B. Mercer VE3ZLB. Sudbury,Ont Ca. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!news3.noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!csus.edu!csusac!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!IntGame!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.nd.edu!news.bsu.edu!figmnt.tayloru.edu!jhschutt From: jhschutt@figmnt.tayloru.edu (Dr. John Robert Schutt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help with FCC Phone Number. Message-ID: <1995Nov6.125255.2441@figmnt.tayloru.edu> Date: 6 Nov 95 12:52:55 -0500 Organization: Taylor University Lines: 9 Can someone tell me the 800 number for the FCC? You know, the one to find out your newly assigned license number. THANKS.-- _______________________________________________________________________________ John Robert Schutt /\ jhschutt@tayloru.edu Taylor University- Fort Wayne //\\ (219) 456-9061 1025 W. Rudisill Blvd. ///\\\ FAX: (219) 456-2119 Fort Wayne, IN 46807 || -------------------------------------------------------------------------------  From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.is.net!news From: csegar@is.net (Cliff Segar) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help with FCC Phone Number. Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 23:37:08 GMT Organization: The Internet Connection Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47ou97$a9v@news1.is.net> References: <1995Nov6.125255.2441@figmnt.tayloru.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: csegar.is.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 jhschutt@figmnt.tayloru.edu (Dr. John Robert Schutt) wrote: >Can someone tell me the 800 number for the FCC? You know, the one to find out >your newly assigned license number. THANKS.-- >John Robert Schutt /\ jhschutt@tayloru.edu FCC: 800-322-1117 Be prepared to wait on hold with strange messages for a while. It tells you how many others are on hold to give you an idea of the lenght of time you will be waiting. Be advised though that this number in NOT only for 'hams-in-waiting' as you will figgure out soon enough. I found the folks very plesant (especially for a govt agency!) and professional. It will take about 5~7 working days from your test date if your VEC is as fast as mine! 73 de KF4DZV From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Matthew <100751.1262@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Help! IC-706 INFO NEEDED! Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:04:40 GMT Organization: Black Sheep Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47qddo$98j$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16964 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21226 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94034 rec.radio.shortwave:65793 uk.radio.amateur:9024 Can someone please post some new, constructive info on the 706. Some people say it's great, some say it isn't. And some say nothing, of course. If anyone is in a position to inform me on this matter, please do so, paying particular attention to the HF performance out of band. Cheers, all. Matt. PS If I do not hear anything soon, I'm going to buy it anyway, so please reassure me that I will be doing the right thing. Post now! HHHHHHHHEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.erinet.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!watt.oedison.com!usenet From: wagnerj@watt.oedison.com (John Wagner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HELP: New Ham needs advice on VHF Multi-mode Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 17:09:06 GMT Organization: Ohio Edison Company, Akron OH Lines: 83 Message-ID: <47tc98$12ps@watt.oedison.com> References: <47suu3$13h0@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: go-bus-appl-4-8x.oedison.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21266 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94074 On 9 Nov 1995 13:15:47 GMT moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () wrote: >>After reading the ARRL Operating Manual, I've become interested in the >>VHF/UHF bands. I'm probably not the "rag-chewer" type, so I'm interested >>in SSB/CW operations. >Welcome to this great field of amateur radio. >>Which equipment would get me started? >For VHF/ UHF work you need 3 ingredients, in order of their importance: >1) a good location: A small yagi on a hill top works better than the biggest >array in a valley. >2) a good antenna: a 10 element yagi is fine, not only to get started but >for general work. >3) a radio: well, obviouisly. >>Example: A local (Seattle) shop has a Yaesu FT-290 (I thinks >>that is the correct model) 2 meter multi-mode for $375. >The current model is the FT290-RII, with the detachable battery pack >(can be replaced by a linear). It is a *lousy* radio, but still one of the >best buys to get started. Do however not use it with a 100 + watt linear, >the TX signal is not very clean and you will be heard on the entire band. >I am currently using mine to operate 6m and 23 cm transverters, >and I am quite happy with it. >There are many articles and mods available, e.g. in packet mail boxes. >>How old is it? It came out around 1986 >73, Moritz DL5UH Moritz hit it on the head on the 1,2,3 approach. On the FT-290, I don't know about lousy, but you get what you pay for. Considering its age and size, its not too bad of a radio. I recommend a pre-amp, a small power amp or combo. I agree with Moritz, that I wouldn't plug it into a 100+ watt unit. That price isn't terrible, but isn't great either. The new version of the radio (FT-290RII) runs about $650 - $675 street price, and INCLUDES a detachable 25 watt linear amp for the price. I've got a FT-290R (VHF) and the newer FT-790RII (UHF), and have had pretty good luck with both. I use the pair for OSCAR work on AO-10, AO-13, and FO-20. My setup is pretty average (or below) for an Oscar station, and I can hear and work anything and everything my friend across town can with his $1800 FT-760 and better antennas. For reference, I'm using: UHF: Cushcraft 38 ele 432 MHz cross yagi no pre amp no power amp (790RII has 25 watt output) VHF: Homebrew 14 ele 144 MHz cross yagi el-cheapo 15db gain bipolar noisy pre-amp Mirage 30 watt power amp Good luck! ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Wagner wagnerj@watt.oedison.com -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzCbmRAAAAEH/2XyyuEu+F2a5SmdU2P+62bAPivG1+5A4mmjy6diK3pW3lW4 sUfxiv0UzZrDC+nicvNW3GlazwM2Oc2dLwlX/OX9CszWDryg5rK4Ga8X5dj1mlac QwG2ESHUIbCkOLUvXJOWDFhuFNtrTk1q1aepRWg1YsRxFnHqBaQCdBX2c3ctE6T3 vQJk/4FMimpQcPNEupCUtX8lk2rly1GSeIUxvY95eZXhdQZyK7Uiquyokc1bxBwb 7uhNtNhjNi7JpI4wtTP1uC1bGaXLWCAw6w6JHXnFspPqcgRKjn0y0ZUeiYJ7lc1R G+qfmoIsWwtsHz/Skb4UfuTaakhD8uL+eM1x48EABRG0HkpvaG4gV2FnbmVyIDxX YWduZXJKV0Btc24uY29tPg== =WVd9 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!pslip249b.egr-ri.ids.net!user From: rmw@ids.net (Ryan M Williams) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: hmmm Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 19:25:42 -0500 Organization: Home Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pslip249b.egr-ri.ids.net *NEW* Amateur Radio Link BBS @ 401-885-3074 Includes: FidoNet, Usenet InterNet EMail, HAM-Net File Distribution, & 2000 files available Online! -- -R.M.Williams RMW@ids.net Check out my *NEW* Web Page http://ids.net/~rmw/news.html *NEW* Amateur Radio Link BBS @ 401-885-3074 Includes: FidoNet, Usenet InterNet EMail, HAM-Net File Distribution, & 2000 files available Online! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!wizard.pn.com!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!feenix.metronet.com!news From: Kelly Qualls Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 8 Nov 1995 19:33:02 GMT Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400)) Lines: 20 Message-ID: <47r0lf$lsf@feenix.metronet.com> References: <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> <47af1t$6l9@nyx10.cs.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: net168.metronet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) >The balloon flights which I have worked use a GPS system which can be >off by that much in any direction. To get accuracy with a non-military >GPS, you have to get repeated readings without moving the GPS. >If you have a fixed platform, no problem. If you use the GPS in an >airborne device (airplane, balloon) lots of luck. I've heard that some GPS units won't work at higher altitudes (above 60,000 MSL, or somewhere in that neighborhood). By "won't work", I'm assuming won't give altitude readings, but will give latitude & longitude readings. Read that a while back on a balloon web page. Sorry, don't remember the URL address. Won't be a problem unless you're planning a balloon launch, or own one heck of a plane for private use! :) 73, Kelly Qualls, KC5DEN kqualls@metronet.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Date: 9 Nov 1995 04:51:35 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 12 Message-ID: <47s1cn$g6t@cc.iu.net> References: <46u0nk$duo@taurus.neca.com> <47af1t$6l9@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <47r0lf$lsf@feenix.metronet.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-12.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <47r0lf$lsf@feenix.metronet.com>, Kelly Qualls writes: >I've heard that some GPS units won't work at higher altitudes >(above 60,000 MSL, or somewhere in that neighborhood). By "won't work", you have it correct. prevents use of a "consumer" product in a ne'er-do-well's ICBM...there's also rate of change limits as well. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:43 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: How accurate is GPS? Message-ID: <1995Nov10.135924.11801@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <473b6b$1hr2@news.gate.net> <47hub8$j0k@news2.delphi.com> <47tq1p$svl@blackice.winternet.com> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:59:24 GMT Lines: 48 In article <47tq1p$svl@blackice.winternet.com> mschwarz@winternet.com (Michael Schwarz) writes: >I'm just injecting into this thread with a question... > >I understand why GPS is potentially dangerous, but at this point why >not just take the inaccuracy out for normal "peacetime" applications? >It seems to me that the maximum altitude descriptions and the maximum >update rate are sufficient for the putative "homebrew ICBM" problem >while the government's ability to totally shut down the system ought >to deal with some expeditionary force landing artillery on the New >Jersey coast. At this point (and I'm asking because I'm certainly >no expert, I'm not even an ignoramus!) doesn't it make sense to just >throw it wide open (within the above limits) so Joe average can >get down to the inch? Even if they turn SA off, and my house is wandering in a 397 foot circle this morning due to SA, the accuracy of civilian receivers is still not down to the inch. The best I saw during Desert Storm, when they did turn SA off so the military could use civilian receivers (they didn't have enough military receivers and had to turn to the civilian market), was a circle 114 feet in diameter. To get better accuracy than that, a military receiver operates on two different frequencies. That allows compensation for variances in the ionosphere which represent the residual error after SA is off. Using both frequencies, the error circle drops to about 60 feet. To get better than that, there are two other methods. One operates directly on received carrier phase, using a time difference of arrival method. And the other method depends on a error delta from a benchmark receiver, which is what differential GPS is about. Using this latter method, errors can be reduced down into the centimeter range for stationary or slowly moving receivers *even if SA is on*. So with the system of differential benchmark receivers and transmitters being installed by the Coast Guard and the FAA, we can get better accuracy with civilian receivers than the military can get with their precision receivers. Just turning off SA wouldn't do that for us. If you use a differential GPS equipped receiver, you don't really care about SA anymore. It would be nice if the military turned off SA, but it wouldn't give us the accuracy we can get with differential systems, even with SA on. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: k5qq@aol.com (K5QQ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to fix intermod? Date: 6 Nov 1995 18:59:50 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 18 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <47m7hm$8hf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <47k2s6$7g3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> Reply-To: k5qq@aol.com (K5QQ) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21182 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93985 You might notice if it always sounds like a pager or some other such tone is one of the intermod signals. Your HT will be more suceptible (sp?) than other radios as they are usually run with a much higher gain in order to hear signals with their small antennas. When you hook them to the outside antenna is when you run into problems.. In Albuquerque we have some paging transmitters in the 152 MHZ band that are running over 1000 watts and they cause a lot of trouble for lots of folks. I just bought a PAR electronics filter which is a notch filter and it works GREAT!! Might check them out in QST and if your intermod is from pagers, I know that will fix a lot of your problems. Adios Jim K5QQ@AOl.COM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc120.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to fix intermod? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 08:16:55 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: okc120.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21189 rec.radio.amateur.misc:93996 Jeff Wigal writes: >When I travel through some areas of Seattle, my radio is bombarded with >intermod interference (at least that's what I think it is)... Most of the amateur equipment is made to sell features, not quality. By that I mean, the receiver isn't as important as the total bandwidth or beeps and whistles. If you buy a radio designed to receive in 30 MHz bandwidth, don't be surprised if it can't resolve down to 25 kHz. My Master II radio never got intermod. But it wasn't designed to receive the whole spectrum, just a part of it. Tucker Electronics 1-800-559-7388 sells a product called Tucker TF-144 for $59 + shipping. It's an inline filter, good for up to 50 Watts. On receive it switches in a filter for only the Ham band. I don't have one, just offering a solution you can investigate. Anything with a helical filter would be an improvement. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ratty.wolfe.net!news.aa.net!tsunami.ixa.net!nwlink.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.wwwi.com!nntpgate.primenet.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!stat!david Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <3096746E.4C27@tcp.co.uk> From: Steve Lorek Subject: HRTOL Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 19:09:34 +0000 Approved: rec-radio-info@stat.com Organization: Total Connectivity Providers - Internet access for the UK Sender: news Lines: 25 From: Steve Lorek Subject: HRTOL Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 19:09:34 +0000 Organization: Total Connectivity Providers - Internet access for the UK Message-ID: <3096746E.4C27@tcp.co.uk> Just to update our thousands of visitors in the past few days. The Ham Radio Today On-Line pages are all ready for the grand opening on November 3rd. We've got loads of features (reviews, ex-PMR conversions, beginners guides, news etc.) ready for the day, so be prepared. So you'd better all stay up until midnight on the night, because that's when it'll be released! That's 00:00 hours on November 3rd! The URL is: http://www.tcp.co.uk/~slorek/ No other site can touch Ham Radio Today On-Line - you won't believe your eyes when you see it! -------------------------------------------------- | Steve Lorek | slorek@tcp.co.uk | -------------------------------------------------- | Editor, Ham Radio Today On-Line, the best | | Amateur Radio Web site in the world!!! Visit | | it at http://www.tcp.co.uk/~slorek | -------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:47 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!saluki-news.wham.siu.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!hopper.acm.org!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.umass.edu!news.hampshire.edu!hamp!aswNS From: aswNS@hamp.hampshire.edu (Albert S Woodhull) Subject: Re: HT storage in car? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 01:47:25 GMT References: <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Hampshire College, Amherst MA X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 25 On 6 Nov 1995 17:32:23 GMT Christopher K Greenhalgh (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote in rec.radio.amateur.misc: : I have an extra 2m HT which I would like to keep in our 3rd car. Will it : hurt the radio and/or battery being subjected to freezing wheather? (In : Columbus, Ohio...it can get down to 0 degrees F.) I think NiCd batteries can survive 0 degrees. But, LCD displays can be damaged by cold. Black blotches form that may obscure parts of the display. Sometimes the blotches will shrink or even disappear when the rig is warmed up again, but the damage can be permanent. I don't know what the critical temperature is. I had it happen to one rig left out in a cold vehicle overnight in winter -- it was probably down to zero or below. I was surprised to have it happen to a handi-talky left on the floor of the rear seat of a well-heated vehicle during a long trip last winter. We were out of the car for a couple of short stops and a visit that might have been an hour or so, but no more. -- Albert S. Woodhull, Hampshire College, Amherst, MA awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu woodhull@shaysnet.com 413-549-2962 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:48 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!world!wdr From: wdr@world.std.com Subject: Re: HT storage in car? Message-ID: Organization: Swamp-Castle Press, Boston References: <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1995Nov6.202533.23732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 22:18:19 GMT Lines: 24 In article <1995Nov6.202533.23732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: > In article <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: > >I have a question. > >I have an extra 2m HT which I would like to keep in our 3rd car. Will it > >hurt the radio and/or battery being subjected to freezing wheather? (In ... > >a bit before operation, but my concern is mostly the Ni-Cad in the HT. ... > You should still top the charge off at least once a month if you > aren't regularly using the radio but want it to be ready for use. If it's being stored for emergency use, wouldn't it be better to store it empty, with an appropriate number of alkaline cells? (I'm assuming the spare HT doesn't need contiuous battery drain to keep any memory it might have, whether by being rockbound, dial-synth, or EEPROM. I am most definitely assuming having the adapter for disposable batteries if it didn't come with one; I've got one on order.) -- Bill Ricker, The Swamp-Castle Press "The freedom of the press belongs wdr@world.std.com N1VUX to those who own one."--A.J.Lieberman From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:49 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HT storage in car? Message-ID: <1995Nov10.140733.11897@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1995Nov6.202533.23732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:07:33 GMT Lines: 38 In article wdr@world.std.com writes: >In article <1995Nov6.202533.23732@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, >Gary Coffman wrote: >> In article <47lgr7$1mi@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >> >I have an extra 2m HT which I would like to keep in our 3rd car. Will it >> >hurt the radio and/or battery being subjected to freezing wheather? (In >... >> >a bit before operation, but my concern is mostly the Ni-Cad in the HT. > >... >> You should still top the charge off at least once a month if you >> aren't regularly using the radio but want it to be ready for use. > >If it's being stored for emergency use, wouldn't it be better to store it >empty, with an appropriate number of alkaline cells? (I'm assuming the >spare HT doesn't need contiuous battery drain to keep any memory it >might have, whether by being rockbound, dial-synth, or EEPROM. >I am most definitely assuming having the adapter for disposable batteries if >it didn't come with one; I've got one on order.) Yeah, disposable batteries, preferrably lithium cells, have the longest shelf life, and they pack more energy than NiCads too. You should always have a set or two around for use in emergencies. But you already have the NiCad pack, and you might as well get some use out of it too. By topping the charge at least once a month, you can keep it ready to go too. The chemicals *are* being consumed, even with this maintenance charge, however, and you're wearing the cells out to little purpose. (No chemical reaction is *perfectly* reversable, so the more you cycle a NiCad, the quicker it will wear out.) My suggestion is to use NiCads in daily use radios, and keep disposable cells with long shelf lives around for emergency use. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!freenet.edmonton.ab.ca!morganp From: morganp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 6 Nov 1995 23:12:00 GMT Organization: Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 59 Message-ID: <47m4o0$enr@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <9511021735.AA16444@athena.atkc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.3] Dave van De Kerk (davev@atkc.COM) wrote: : > Date: 28 Oct 1995 00:20:07 GMT : > From: gamma7@ix.netcom.com (J. Duffy Beischel) : > Subject: Radio Shack HT-deaf : > : > : > All I read about is one problem after another when it comes to the RS : > HTs. Sure some of them work, but I think the percentage of problem : > radios is way above the norm. : > : I have two, and have thoroughly abused one. They keep on : working. : > : > I would not put it past some people to claim how good these RS radios : > are after they bought them, even though they are having problems with : > them. Heck, I am sure the majority of hams that buy that junk don't : > want to admit they got ripped off. : > : > Duffy : Statistically, when someone is satisfied with a product they tell : three people. When they are dissatisdied, they tell nine. It : has been my impression that there are a lot more ardent HTX 202 : supporters verses detractors. : Rather than making blanket statements, why don't we conduct a : scientific poll. We could have all HTX 202 users on this list : mail me and report their satisfaction, on the following scale : 1 = ripoff junk, never buy another : 2 = dissatisfied : 3 = mediocre, might buy one and might not : 4 = reasonably satisfied, would condider buying another : 5 = most wonderful 2 meter handheld ever conceived : Also, please list number of units owned and number of years : owned. If you have more than one rig, please feel free to : rate them individually. : =============================================== : This message does not constitute any official or unofficial statement or : policy of American Turnkey or any other organization, corporation or : institution. : ----------------- : David P. van De Kerk Manager, Systems Integration : American Turnkey Santa Ana, CA USA : 714-557-9050 voice 714-557-9056 FAX davev@atkc.com : KE6GXD I would give the 202 a 4, it is the only handheld I've ever used however so I'm not to sure how good it is compared to other units. But I would like to add that it is DEFINATLY the best bang for your buck. -- 73 & ttyl Morgan Patterson \\/// Internet: morganp@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (o o) Ham Radio: VE6MRP (_) "Your Computer will self destruct in..5..4..3..2..1..KABOOM!!!" ----oOO-----OOo--------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Jason Reighard Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:30:03 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47nngu$1tit@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1f.delphi.com X-To: Stephen G. Roseman Stephen G. Roseman writes: > Anyone have an idea how often it goes on sale? I just got my ticket, >and didn't know about it last month. I don't want to wait 6 months or more >to get an HT. I may have to get one of those off-brands (Kenwood, ICOM, or >Yaesu...) > >Steve, N3WHW Don't make the same mistake I did when I first got my ticket. Save up some more money and get a good radio, remember you do get what you pay for. Or get the service contract you'll need it , min has been in the shop so many times ,it's ridicous! I had to go buy another radiio, a YAESU because my 202 was never here for me to use. Like I said pay the extra money for a good rig..... Jason KB8SFC From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!cs.utexas.edu!convex!not-for-mail From: horak@convex.com (David Horak) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 8 Nov 1995 12:01:52 -0600 Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX USA Lines: 11 Message-ID: <47qrag$f8m@eugene.convex.com> References: <9511021735.AA16444@athena.atkc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eugene.convex.com In <9511021735.AA16444@athena.atkc.com> davev@atkc.COM (Dave van De Kerk) writes: >1 = ripoff junk, never buy another >2 = dissatisfied >3 = mediocre, might buy one and might not >4 = reasonably satisfied, would condider buying another >5 = most wonderful 2 meter handheld ever conceived I rate my HTX-202 a 4. I've had it for 2 years and am very pleased with it. David From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!ames!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!alpha1.csd.uwm.edu!herb From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 8 Nov 1995 15:09:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Lines: 35 Message-ID: <47qh7i$qgd@uwm.edu> References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47nngu$1tit@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.169.1 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jason Reighard (kb8sfc@delphi.com) wrote: : Stephen G. Roseman writes: : : > Anyone have an idea how often it goes on sale? I just got my ticket, : >and didn't know about it last month. I don't want to wait 6 months or more : >to get an HT. I may have to get one of those off-brands (Kenwood, ICOM, or : >Yaesu...) : > : >Steve, N3WHW : : Don't make the same mistake I did when I first got my ticket. Save up some : more money and get a good radio, remember you do get what you pay for. Or : get the service contract you'll need it , min has been in the shop so many : times ,it's ridicous! I had to go buy another radiio, a YAESU because : my 202 was never here for me to use. Like I said pay the extra money for : a good rig..... : Jason : KB8SFC Steve, I'd say go for the HTX-202. You're paying less, but getting a more solid radio. The thing is Intermod-less, and can take a beating. I would highly reccomend it, and if you are really worried about it not working, get the TSP. As far as I can tell, though, there have been more satisfied HTX-202 owners than dissatisfied ones. (I had a Kenwood TH78a, and an Alinco DJ580t; i like the HTX-202 far better.) That's my bit of input.... Nate, KB9LSX PS: Congratulations on getting your ticket.... From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!homer.alpha.net!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.cis.okstate.edu!wizard.uark.edu!comp!plaws From: plaws@comp.uark.edu (Peter Laws) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 8 Nov 1995 22:34:59 GMT Organization: University of Arkansas Lines: 17 Message-ID: <47rbaj$raj@wizard.uark.edu> References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47nngu$1tit@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: comp.uark.edu Jason Reighard writes: >Don't make the same mistake I did when I first got my ticket. Save up some I've had a '202 since 1992. Except for buggy firmware (RS eventually gave me a new radio), mine has worked well since. At least 4 people in our club have them and report similar results (only one had to have his replaced). Beware those on the 'net that will bash RS no matter what! :-) (not that they don't sometimes deserve it, it's just that the '202 is a fine piece of equipment. YMMV.) Peter Laws| "Daddy done shot up th'merica Online ag'in!" n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam |geek All original portions of this posting are Copyright 1995, Peter Laws From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.indy.net!usenet From: private@indy.net (Bruce Glover) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 19:29:29 GMT Organization: IndyNet - Indys Internet Gateway (info@indy.net) Lines: 10 Message-ID: <47tkoi$kbj@news.indy.net> References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47c2tf$eg5@over.mhv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip175.slip.indy.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I would rate the HTX 202 at a 4. It has been an excellent performer in all condition. I have dropped it several time, once into a puddle of water. It was completely submerged. And many of these drops were over 4 feet onto a parking lot. After all of this my 202 has NEVER been into the shop once! If you want to get a radio with all the featuers of teh 202 you better bring $400+ to the radio store. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!prairienet.org!szinski From: szinski@prairienet.org (Steve Zinski) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX 202 good, bad or indifferent Date: 9 Nov 1995 13:45:53 GMT Organization: Prairienet, the East-Central Illinois Free-Net Lines: 16 Message-ID: <47t0mh$j1j@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <9511021735.aa16444@athena.atkc.com> <47btjg$aje@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47nngu$1tit@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> <47rbaj$raj@wizard.uark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: firefly.prairienet.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jason Reighard writes: > Don't make the same mistake I did when I first got my ticket. Save up some I don't own the HTX-202, but I do own the HTX-404 (its 70-cm cousin). I am extremely satisfied with it. It is packed full of features not found on radios in its price range (S-Meter, DTMF memories, CTCSS encode/decode, etc.) I also own an Alinco DJ-180T HT and an Azden 2M mobile. I have seriously considered selling the Alinco in order to purchase the HTX-202. --Steve N9VAH/4 -- ============================================================ == Steven C. Zinski - N9VAH == szinski@prairienet.org == == Richmond, Virginia, USA == == ============================================================ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Matthew <100751.1262@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: IC706 Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:32:16 GMT Organization: Black Sheep Lines: 4 Message-ID: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16970 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21233 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94042 uk.radio.amateur:9027 Quick! I need first-hand, unbiased advice on the IC706! I plan to buy it v. soon if I do not hear any stinking reports! Help! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:06:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov!nntp-server.caltech.edu!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.eng.convex.com!cowart From: cowart@news.eng.convex.com (Michael Cowart) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Date: 8 Nov 1995 19:35:16 GMT Organization: Engineering, Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47r0pk$p09@worm.convex.com> References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: neptune.convex.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16976 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21242 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94049 uk.radio.amateur:9029 Matthew (100751.1262@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : Quick! : I need first-hand, unbiased advice on the IC706! : I plan to buy it v. soon if I do not hear any stinking reports! : Help! it's hard to get unbiased advice :) by definition, any advice is biased. I have had a 706 four days and like it very much. it gives you a lot of bands and modes for a relatively small amount of dollars. makes a great mobile rig, that's how I use mine. my advice: get one before the price goes up! 73 Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Cowart e-mail: cowart@convex.com Convex Computer Corp. My opinions are mine, not my employer's. Richardson, Texas ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.uoregon.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!m14494-mac.mitre.org!user From: mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 15:39:10 -0500 Organization: The MITRE Corporation Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: m14494-mac.mitre.org X-Newsreader: Value-Added NewsWatcher 2.0b27.1+ Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16977 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21243 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94050 uk.radio.amateur:9030 Matthew wrote: > Quick! > I need first-hand, unbiased advice on the IC706! > I plan to buy it v. soon if I do not hear any stinking reports! > Help! A friend of mine got one, and I've used it quite a lot. It's great; we both love it. There are some minor things we'd change if we were designing it, but certainly no show-stoppers. This friend of mine is very, very pickey about such things, and he's quite pleased with the 706. Just remember that it only has 10 watts out on 2 meters, and there is no DTMF keypad. It's really meant to be a 2 meter all-mode, not a general purpose mobile rig for chatting on the repeater. It will do that fine, it's just set up more like an all-mode. Now, if I could just convince my wife that the 706 is more important the the kid's braces... Mike, N4PDY -- mwhite@mitre.org My opinions are my own, not my employer's. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!dns.crocker.com!wizard.pn.com!sundog.tiac.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet From: Thomas Brockdorf Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: 9 Nov 1995 17:20:58 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 31 Message-ID: <47td9r$lkv@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: carp.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16995 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21275 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94087 uk.radio.amateur:9060 Matthew <100751.1262@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Quick! >I need first-hand, unbiased advice on the IC706! >I plan to buy it v. soon if I do not hear any stinking reports! >Help! Mathew, Don't be worried about buying the 706. It is an excellent radio! I got mine last week, and I love it. I have two comments. I thought I had a transmit audio problem, but I played around with the settings, and found this not to be true. The only thing I would change on this radio if I could, would be the fan. It runs all the time, and speeds up when you transmit. I would rather see it temperature controlled, like my Icom 751A. I think however, that it may have to be like it is in order to maintain the small size of the radio, without large heat-sinks. It is about the same noise level as a computer fan. Really not a major problem though. This radio has many great software features, and with 6M and 2M all mode, it is like getting three radios in one. Recieve audio is quite clear, I don,t detect any distortion (by ear), like some of the other HF radios that have recently come out. Reciever sensitivity seems to be very good. On two meter FM, it is better than my FM mobile rig (with the preamp on). HF also very good. 73 de Thomas AA9IS From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!yama.mcc.ac.uk!warwick!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!qmw!ciril.fr!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!news.eunet.fi!jjo From: jjo@tekla.fi (Jari Jokiniemi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: 10 Nov 1995 06:12:21 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <1995Nov9.181811.7781@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: ds10.tekla.fi In-reply-to: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us's message of Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:18:11 GMT Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17008 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21295 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94117 uk.radio.amateur:9070 I would slightly disagree on IC-706 being really that good. The SSB filters are poor. The radio gets into trouble when trying to dig a DX under a pile-up or when running a contest. Also the front end does not seem to behave well when someone is running a KW nearby, so multi-multi operations using IC-706's are out of the question. To be fair, the other small radio I've ever tried (TS-50) behaved just the same way. I would say that the new Icom is a good deal for the common operator, it is also very handy radio for a one man DX pedition. DX hunters and those runninng contests should consider other radios (did I say a second-hand IC-735). -- Jari Jokiniemi, jari.jokiniemi@tekla.fi, OH2MPO, OH3BU Tekla Oy, Koronakatu 1, 02210 Espoo, 90-8879 474 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:04 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!yama.mcc.ac.uk!warwick!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: IC706 Message-ID: <1995Nov10.144331.12131@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <1995Nov9.181811.7781@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:43:31 GMT Lines: 48 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17011 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21298 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94120 uk.radio.amateur:9072 In article jjo@tekla.fi (Jari Jokiniemi) writes: >I would slightly disagree on IC-706 being really that good. The SSB >filters are poor. The radio gets into trouble when trying to >dig a DX under a pile-up or when running a contest. Also the front end >does not seem to behave well when someone is running a KW nearby, so >multi-multi operations using IC-706's are out of the question. To be >fair, the other small radio I've ever tried (TS-50) behaved just the >same way. I would say that the new Icom is a good deal for the common >operator, it is also very handy radio for a one man DX >pedition. DX hunters and those runninng contests should consider other >radios (did I say a second-hand IC-735). You're right, the 706 is no 735. I've been operating the two side by side for a few days now. The 735 has better dynamic range, better filters, and has PBT to let you tailor the filter bandwidth to suit the signal you are copying. But you can upgrade the 706 filters, the dynamic range problem is somewhat manageable with artful use of the preamp and attenuator, and the radio is more convienent to operate than the 735, and certainly easier to use mobile. All the mods for this radio so far have been to improve out-of-band performance, but when the schematics are finally available, I hope some mods will be forthcoming to enhance its dynamic range. That's the *real* drawback to this otherwise excellent little radio. (For mobile use, which seems the primary niche for this radio, the lack of dynamic range isn't as much of a problem because the antennas are inherently narrow banded and have limited sensitivity. So dealing with huge signals out of band isn't as much of a problem.) With the optional 500 Hz filter, this little radio is a digital operator's dream. Everything you need is brought out the back, and the slow tuning is a godsend compared to the coarse and quick tuning of the 735. Even tuning a Clover signal is a piece of cake. You don't have to hold your breath while nudging the knob like you do with the 735. And of course having 6m and 2m allows you to do meteor scatter packet on 6m and regular terrestrial packet on 2m. I haven't tried 9600 baud yet (we don't use 9600 on 2m around here) but I'm going to do some experiments this weekend to see what the BER looks like. With a 70cm transverter, the radio even does an acceptable job with amateur satellites, though lack of full duplex capability is a limitation. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.eas.asu.edu!ukma!netnews.wku.edu!netnews.wku.edu!nntp Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM computer control Message-ID: <1995Nov9.143429.14041@netnews.wku.edu> From: Pat Moore Date: 9 Nov 95 14:34:26 CDT Organization: Western Kentucky University Nntp-Posting-Host: moore.marketing.wku.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 3 I need a simple program which will control an ICOM transceiver. Just the basics, no 12 mb windows applications. Any pointers to an ftp site? From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Identify batteries Date: 7 Nov 95 15:14:11 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 10 Message-ID: <9511071514.AA00907@tix.timeplex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu I have two 12V 40 AH batteries that appear to some type of storage battery that I can't identify as to type. They are slightly smaller than a conventional car battery, yellow case with a black top. The only markings on the side are "Choride Power" . They have what appear to be nickel plated large terminals. They are also sealed, with no vents and are very heavy for their size. I've checked in the engineering manuals and EEM and I can't seem to ID the vendor nor the type of cells. The only chloride variety that I could find is a zinc chloride which is a primary battery, not a storage type. I'm assumming that these are storage batteries, maybe aircraft type. Any ideas ? From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: wharrell@cris.COM (Wayne Harrell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #958 Date: 10 Nov 95 19:04:50 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 2 Message-ID: <199511101904.OAA29744@deathstar.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu unsubscribe Info-Hams@ucsd.edu wharrell@cris.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.eznet.net!news.enterprise.net!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!cityscape.co.uk!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.uoregon.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.interlog.com!winternet.com!io.org!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!usenet From: donb@Direct.CA (Don Boekenkruger) Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.dbs,rec.video.satellite.europe,rec.video.satellite.misc,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: INTERESTING NEW WWW PAGE Date: 9 Nov 1995 06:57:20 GMT Organization: Internet Direct Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <47s8og$3ul@grid.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.174.244.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Xref: news.epix.net rec.video.satellite.dbs:18125 rec.video.satellite.europe:3790 rec.video.satellite.misc:3276 rec.video.satellite.tvro:18463 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94086 Hello to all who read this message. I am letting you all know about a new WWW page which is Ham Radio, scanner & satellite T.V. related. The page is at "http://www.burnabyradio.com/ham/brc.html" We are: Burnaby Radio Communications Ltd. 4257 E. Hastings Street Burnaby, B.C. Canada V5C 2J5 Phone: (604)298-5444 Fax: (604)298-5455 BBS: (604)298-3283 WWW: http://www.burnabyradio.com/ham/brc.html Please visit us!!! Thanks. Don Boekenkruger donb@burnabyradio.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:09 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!brown From: brown@spk.hp.com (Pat R. Brown) Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Sender: news@hpcvsnz.cv.hp.com (News ) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:38:41 GMT References: <1995Nov6.195642.23526@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Nntp-Posting-Host: hpspk7bc.spk.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard Lines: 9 Yes. At least in the late 80's. The Advanced test has some questions about electronics that even require a little simple math. The Extra test is mostly just rules and regs. Pat N7KRG (yeah, I kept my old call......) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: ccotts@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Cathy Cotts) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: KENWOOD MODS. Date: 6 Nov 1995 21:56:53 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <47mhtl$cb2@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am looking for any mods for the kenwood 79a. If anyone could help please e-mail. Thanks -- Cathy Cotts ccotts@freenet.columbus.oh.us From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!news.cerf.net!ni1.ni.net!xband.ni.net!user From: blanton@ni.net (J. L. Blanton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: License burnt - where to get replacement ??? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 00:15:06 -0800 Organization: Network Intensive Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> <1995Nov6.200516.23628@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: xband.ni.net > In article <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> Kirk Prodzinski writes: > >Help. We had a house fire (lightning hit my tower), and my licenses were > >torched. Does anyone know offhand how to go about getting a replacement I lost my license while moving to a new home. I filed a 610 form to apply for a change of address and renewal. In the space where the license was supposed to be attached I simply wrote "Lost in moving". No problem. I received my new license in about 10 days. 73, Lee, WA8YBT/6 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!canyon.sr.hp.com!news From: John Mullan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: License burnt - where to get replacement ??? Date: 7 Nov 1995 17:11:07 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Sonoma County Lines: 4 Message-ID: <47o3vb$6gb@canyon.sr.hp.com> References: <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: catv2.sr.hp.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/725) X-URL: news:47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com Did your wallet survive, and did you put a copy of your license in your wallet? If so, make a copy and send it with a 610 requesting a replacement. If you don't have a copy, give a call to the nearest FCC office and ask their advice. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MURSO From: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: License burnt - where to get replacement ??? Date: 8 Nov 1995 20:11:30 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 52 Message-ID: <47r2ti$eo5@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> <1995Nov6.200516.23628@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Reply-To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov In article , charles.adams@ntc.nokia.com (Charles P. Adams) writes: >In article <1995Nov6.200516.23628@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: >>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc >>Path: >>ntc.nokia.com!nokia.fi!news.funet.fi!news.kolumbus.fi!news.csc.fi!news.eunet.fi! >>EU.net!gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >>From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) >>Subject: Re: License burnt - where to get replacement ??? >>Message-ID: <1995Nov6.200516.23628@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> >>Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) >>Organization: Destructive Testing Systems >>References: <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> >>Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 20:05:16 GMT >>Lines: 15 > > >>In article <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> Kirk Prodzinski >> writes: >>>Help. We had a house fire (lightning hit my tower), and my licenses were >>>torched. Does anyone know offhand how to go about getting a replacement >>>? Thanks in advance. > >>Just write a letter to Uncle Charley up in Gettysburg, explain what >>happened, and they'll mail you a new license. > >>Gary > >>-- >>Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary >>Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary >>534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >>Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | > >Uh, you mean you can't buy 'em at Radio Shack? > >damn.. > >============================================================================= >Charles P. (Chuck) Adams WB5WRR Tel. +1 817 491 5838 >RF Engineering Fax +1 817 491 5888 >Nokia Telecommunications, Inc. USA charles.adams@ntc.nokia.com >============================================================================= >alternate email addresses: > > cadams@ssc.gov > cadams@sscvx1.ssc.gov > chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov > cadams@ntcsal01da.ntc.nokia.com Nice touch Chuck! Mike KB9KFE From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.cris.com!NewsWatcher!user From: dakidd@cris.com (Don Bruder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Looking for frequencies sending CW Followup-To: poster Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 12:39:02 -0500 Organization: Organization? Who needs that? Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: Reply-To: poster NNTP-Posting-Host: crc7-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0.3b0 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94001 rec.radio.scanner:40406 alt.radio.scanner:25076 Hello, folks... I'm a "wannabe" ham (no license, or gear other than a Pro-43 scanner yet) looking to learn morse in preparation for getting my ticket. I've got Gordon West's code tapes, the no-code plus book from radio shack, and "Now You're Talking!" from ARRL. What I don't have is the patience to repeat the tapes over and over and over while I learn the code. I've found that I get to a certain point, and lose concentration due to the repetition, and everything I've learned up until that point just kinda goes out the window. I also find myself "anticipating" the next letter to come along because I've played the tapes so often. I'm not willing to settle for "just" the no-code ticket, so that option is out. What I'm looking for is the frequency of a station that sends CW (whatever rate...) that I can tune up on my Pro-43 scanner and practice copying from. I'd love to be able to tune up W1AW's code-practice "workshops", but I simply don't have the gear to tune that low. (30 Mhz is my bottom end with the radio I have) I'm in Bay City Michigan, and my radio covers 30-54, 118-174, 220-512, and 806-999.9875 Mhz in either AM or FM mode. If anyone knows of a station I can tune up for some copying practice using this radio, I'd like to hear about it. And yes, I know: Trying to use a scanner as a ham receiver is nuts. When I can afford to buy a "real" Ham rig, I will, but for right now, "Use what you've got" is the catchphrase for this boy... Email responses preferred if at all possible. Thanks in advance... -- -- +-------------------+ \__ Roadkill on the information superhighway... |Don Bruder | | \ AUGH! +--------------------------------+ |dakidd@cris.com | |_@_\____& / | I will choose a purpose clear: | |I eat my roadkill! |_|____|__@| @ | I will choose Free-will -Rush | +/.\/.\--------+ /.\/.\=(__)/.\] \|/ +--------------------------------+ _\_/\_/__________\_/\_/_____\_/__/_\__ Finger for PGP public key From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!sislnews.csc.ti.com!usenet From: craigs@ti.com (Craig S. Young) Newsgroups: dfw.general,ti.rec.radio,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Looking for new meeting location, Dallas/Mid Cities Area Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:00:40 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Lines: 24 Message-ID: <47qd68$kqi@superb.csc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s1263188.dseg.ti.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 Xref: news.epix.net dfw.general:13913 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94033 The North Texas Microwave Society (NTMS) is looking for a new location to hold its monthly meetings. Our meetings are currently held on the Friday before the first Saturday at HP in Las Colinas, but our sponsor at HP will no longer be able to host meetings there. The NTMS is an amateur radio organization whose purpose is to promote amateur radio activity on frequencies above 900 MHz. The NTMS consists of over 400 members worldwide, and our local meetings usually draw 30 to 50 members from Dallas/Fort Worth and the surrounding areas. While we'd like to keep the meeting at the same time and in the same general area as they are currently, we are open to any suggestions. If you have any suggestions, please email. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Craig S. Young, KA5BOU "I speak only for me, not TI" Texas Instruments Incorporated 2501 W. University, MS 8041 email: craigs@ti.com McKinney, TX 75070 phone: (214) 952-4616 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hplextra!news.dtc.hp.com!col.hp.com!jwc From: jwc@col.hp.com (John Chapman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Message Handling Date: 10 Nov 1995 19:47:04 GMT Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division Lines: 11 Message-ID: <480a7o$dbd@nonews.col.hp.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: mssjwc.col.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] All such inf is available from ARRL by sending e-mail to > info@arrl.org < no subject but put "INDEX" in msg area. They will reply with long list of subjects that you can get pages of info on. Usually within minutes. But, IMO anyone that doesn't have the background in NTS & traffic handleing, is the wrong person to give the talk. John, N0KIC, AEC Dist 14, Colo Section. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Message Handling Date: 10 Nov 1995 20:56:38 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 24 Message-ID: <480ea6$375@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article , Greg N. wrote: >I have a friend here at work that is going to give a talk on Emergency >Communication for Ham Operators. He ask me for any information I could get >on message handling. Does anyone have inputs that I could pass along? >Thanks, >Greg Hi Greg. What do you mean "message handling"? Are you refering the to National Traffic System (NTS)? If so, traffic is sent in ARRL Radiogram format. I am the Central Ohio Traffic Net Manager, and handle thousands of pieces of traffic a year. If this is what your looking for, email me for specifics. 73 -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!emi.com!crier.knighted.com!knighted.com!yingst From: yingst@knighted.com (Harry Yingst) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mods for Icom IC-736 Date: 9 Nov 1995 23:47:03 GMT Organization: Knighted Computers Lines: 56 Message-ID: <47u3tn$les@crier.knighted.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: knighted.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Does anyone have any mods for the ICOM IC-736? I'm looking for a way to turn the pre-amp back on below 1.6 Mhz. Icom turns it off even though it the light says it's on. I would like to listen for some lowfer stations 1750 meter band (160-190 kc. 1 watt into a 50 ft antenna). I'm also looking for a way to improve the recieve audio. The recieve audio sounds flat and distant, lacking highs & lows. With the notch filter ON the audio sounds a little better, but it still could use some improvement. They re-shape the audio through the notch filter, and it actually has a nicer sound with the notch filter on (Has more highs & lows). I had a IC-737 that had the same problem with the audio, just not sounding quite right. I am also interested in any other mods for the Icom IC-736. Please send any replies to yingst@knighted.com Note: If you post a reply into this newsgroup I proably wont get it, my internet provider only holds news for 1 day. Thank You. Harry N6VUJ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!emi.com!crier.knighted.com!knighted.com!yingst From: yingst@knighted.com (Harry Yingst) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mods for Icom IC-736 Date: 9 Nov 1995 23:48:02 GMT Organization: Knighted Computers Lines: 56 Message-ID: <47u3vi$les@crier.knighted.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: knighted.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Does anyone have any mods for the ICOM IC-736? I'm looking for a way to turn the pre-amp back on below 1.6 Mhz. Icom turns it off even though it the light says it's on. I would like to listen for some lowfer stations 1750 meter band (160-190 kc. 1 watt into a 50 ft antenna). I'm also looking for a way to improve the recieve audio. The recieve audio sounds flat and distant, lacking highs & lows. With the notch filter ON the audio sounds a little better, but it still could use some improvement. They re-shape the audio through the notch filter, and it actually has a nicer sound with the notch filter on (Has more highs & lows). I had a IC-737 that had the same problem with the audio, just not sounding quite right. I am also interested in any other mods for the Icom IC-736. Please send any replies to yingst@knighted.com Note: If you post a reply into this newsgroup I proably wont get it, my internet provider only holds news for 1 day. Thank You. Harry N6VUJ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mr. Nicad phone number? 608-831-3443 Date: 7 Nov 1995 22:10:39 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <47olgv$k82@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: w3eax.umd.edu >: Can someone please provide me with the phone number for Mr. Nicad? > >: Thanks! > >E.H. Yost (Mr. Nicad) & Company: 608-643-3194 > >-- >John Keith keith@fc.hp.com I have a flyer and just bought something last week: 608-831-3443, fax 608-831-1082 -- Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 ** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas ** Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles... -------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!purdue!yuma!usenet From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: My first mod! Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 18:38:31 -0800 Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 17 Message-ID: <309EC6A7.7848@lamar.colostate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: movers.physics.colostate.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b1 (Windows; I; 16bit) Hi, I recently bought an ICOM 2000 and didn't like a couple things about the mic, so I made some mods to make it work the way *I* want. 1) Its hard to hold the PTT and press the buttons on the keypad when accessing the autopatch so I added a 2nd slide switch PTT. 2) I can't see the keypad at night so I added a 'super bright' LED just below the keypad. More info about what I did can be found at http://polaron.physics.colostate.edu/~fiz/icom2000.html ttfn fiz (KG0YG) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.global1.net!usenet From: rxbobxr@globalone.net (bob rx) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Nec 386 Active color matrix laptop Date: 8 Nov 1995 22:56:04 GMT Organization: Global One, Inc Lines: 6 Message-ID: <47rci4$1ge@news.global1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip8.global1.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Hi -- have a NEC 386 laptop -=- 2 megs of ram 80 meg Harddrive -- with dos 6.2 and windows 3.1-- 1.44 meg floppy and connections for printer -LPT1- com 1-ps2 mouse external monitor -external floppy- ACTIVE MATRIX COLOR monitor -- no battery but have power supply and battery charger-- many programs also -- will sell for $ 550.00 with shipping UPS BROWN included -- sell mail or call after 6PM est 518-399-3639- Thanks for reading From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.cris.com!cris.com!rogerh From: rogerh@cris.com (Pete) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.rad Subject: Re: NEED CASH?!!...Don't You? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:01:51 LOCAL Organization: Concentric Research Corporation Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47u6ge$7c3@zippy.radian.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc3-fddi.cris.com Keywords: SCAM ALERT!!ALERT!! X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:51957 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4571 rec.pyrotechnics:37548 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:16997 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12532 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21277 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11482 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94090 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31768 rec.radio.amateur.space:5660 >Give me a break!! The sad thing is that there are people out there that will >actually do what you say and you will make money. Please don't post this crap >here again. Scum like you will get it in the end...I believe you are what we >all call a scam artist!! >NO ONE FOLLOW THIS GUYS ADVICE!! SCAM ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!! Everyone send him mail...Fill his box. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:24 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!braintree!news.concourse.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!usc!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsfeed.cit.cornell.edu!cornellcs!rochester!rocksanne!news From: mensing@ess.mc.xerox.com (Dave Mensing) Subject: Need ideas for ham radio mini class Message-ID: <1995Nov9.211635.26132@news.wrc.xerox.com> Sender: news@news.wrc.xerox.com Reply-To: mensing@ess.mc.xerox.com Organization: Xerox Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 21:22:15 GMT Lines: 14 I have been asked to prepare and teach a ham radio mini class at our church. The class will consist of about 5 or 6 kids in the 4th, 5th and 6th grade. The class will run one night a week (1 hour per night) for 5 weeks. I would like to hear from anyone that has any suggestions as to how I might structure such a class. What sort of activities would be appropriate for this age range? I've got some ideas but would like to hear from you folks, too. Thanks, Dave Mensing, N2PSH, mensing@ess.mc.xerox.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.kth.se!nntp.uio.no!nntp-oslo.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!stud.hials.no!iaa From: iaa@stud.hials.no (Ivar Aarsnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New ham-radio Homepage! Date: 8 Nov 1995 09:12:53 GMT Organization: H|gskolen i ]lesund Lines: 8 Message-ID: <47psal$5ae@doffen.uninett.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: postkontor.stud.hials.no X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just thought I'd let you know that I have made a homepage dedicated to Amateur radio , It contains some nice links, and I will try to update it regularly. Feel free to mail me comments or suggestions/new links. The address is: http://stud.hials.no:24892/~iaa/ham.html 73's de Ivar From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:26 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!bdt.com!news.ossi.com!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news.ptd.net!news From: Bill Kirkner Subject: Re: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile X-Nntp-Posting-Host: cs1-10.eph.ptd.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov Sender: news@postoffice.ptd.net (News Master) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: ptd.net References: <1995Nov4.163905.16063@atlas.tntech.edu>,<1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> <47l3vl$qkt@fnnews.fnal.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 05:56:09 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Lines: 41 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50616 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94071 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21258 Hi Mike.. a Friend of mine has this Radio, could you please tell me how to do the odd splits.. Please reply via e-mail .. thanks Bill..73'smurso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) wrote: >In article <1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu>, jmg@tntech.edu (Jeff Gold) writes: >>Anyone know anything about the new Radio Shack 2 meter mobile >>rigs. They are on sale for $299 now and it sure looked good. >>wonder who really makes it and how it compares to the other >>current 2 meter mobile on the market. >>73 >> >>Jeff, AC4HF > >Jeff, > I have had an HTX-212 almost since they came out. It has a few quirks >that are just slightly annoying (You can't save out of band freq - like the >weather broadcasts in memory.) I have had no problem and it is very easy to >set up a repeater freq into memory. Even the odd splits (my home repeater has >a 1.08M split) are not a problem. It does CTCSS both directions out of the box >(Read no add-on board). It has good audio and a 30 memory selection is plenty >for me. You do have to "OPEN UP" the transmit and receive (it is still in band >however) to use many of the repeater that use a lower than RS allowed transmit. >I talked to customer service and their response was that it was intentional and >done to go along with a "gentlemens aggreement" on bandplan. The 10 watt low >is a little higher power than I would like and the 45 high power is fine. The >Squelch is a little wierd in the setting. 50% - 12 o'clock is just S1 on my >radio. It is very hard to squelch out a moderate signal. > All in all I would buy another for my wife, but I want to wait for the >rumored "dual-band" mobile (and give my wife the 2m unit!) > Mike KB9KFE -- "Bill Kirkner" (billk@postoffice.ptd.net) (n3pzabill@aol.com) (n3pza@n3pza.ampr.org) AMPRnet (n3pza@wb3fqy.#sepa.pa.usa.na) NETROM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!oronet!news From: rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:46:29 GMT Organization: RST Engineering Lines: 29 Message-ID: <48058h$jc9@hg.oro.net> References: <1995Nov4.163905.16063@atlas.tntech.edu>,<1995Nov4.164003.16064@atlas.tntech.edu> <47l3vl$qkt@fnnews.fnal.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: rst-engr.oro.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50698 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94124 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21301 Bill Kirkner wrote: >Please reply via e-mail .. [snip in consideration of bandwidth] C'mon fellers. Consider what you are doing when you ask for a reply by email. 1. You are preventing the rest of us who have an interest in this thread from seeing the whole answer -- this strikes me as being somewhat selfish. 2. You are admitting that you don't lurk this group very often and want a personal answer so that you don't have to take up your valuable time reading the newsgroup to pick up your answer. If the question is by newsgroup, the return post should be by newsgroup. Jim Jim Weir VP Engineering | "We seem to be standing on RST Engineering | the foreskin of technology." Grass Valley CA 95945 | (Gen Chuck Yeager) voice/fax 916/272-1432 | rst-engr@oro.net AR Adv WB6BHI CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!bt!btnet!zetnet.co.uk!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!relay-4.mail.demon.net From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: OLD RADIO TUBES Date: Tue, 07 Nov 95 09:13:39 GMT Organization: CQ-BBS +44 1753 595468 Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <815735619snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <8B473F1.07E70057D2.uuout@wdn.com> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: relay-4.mail.demon.net X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article <8B473F1.07E70057D2.uuout@wdn.com> bob.barber@wdn.com "BOB BARBER" writes: > Does anyone know of a source for old radio tubes? I have a GE console > model that dates back to the 30's. It needs a tube to make it work. > Thanks. If this is the wrong newsgroup for this message pls advise me > of the correct one. :) Have you tried the 'glowbugs' list? Email listproc@theporch.com with the following in the message body: subscribe glowbugs 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news-out.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: <73412.2660@compuserve.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Opportunity Knocking Date: 9 Nov 1995 19:00:37 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 10 Message-ID: <47tj4l$neu@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd27-144.compuserve.com Content-Type: text/plain Keywords: Antenna Content-length: 437 X-Newsreader: AIR Mosaic (16-bit) version 1.00.198.07 I am an Executive Recruiter in the RF/Microwave Industry. I currently have several openings in New England for Engineers with experience in Antenna Design Bill Corrigan Ross Green and Associates PO Box 547 Cumberland, ME 04021 207-829-6595 (P) 207-829-6590 (F) RGreen2573@AOL.COM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc110.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Opportunity Knocking Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:14:46 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <47tj4l$neu@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc110.icon.net Keywords: Antenna X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] >I am an Executive Recruiter in the RF/Microwave Industry. I'm available from 10am to 3pm Tuesday through Thursday (I like my time off). I'm an angry white male over 40 (I want affirmative action for whites too). I have no Congressional minority status (like being a woman). My degree is from a communist country (but recognized and funded by Congress). I made an antenna from a coat hanger once. I am conversant in Commodore computers. I have gone 1200 baud on both radio and telephone. I won't consider anything less than $26 an hour (my Government retirement). I'm a member of the White Caucus (we send cockroaches into the Black Caucus). I never lie. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!uwvax!fullfeed!tricia!newsmaster From: Bob Morrow Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 8 Nov 1995 00:30:06 GMT Organization: FullFeed Madison (newsmaster@msn.fullfeed.com) Lines: 18 Message-ID: <47otme$p2d@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> References: <47ldgl$iup@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.msn.fullfeed.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 32bit) curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) wrote: >required to show you the radar, it must be different in different states >but this sure is gonna be a hit to the wallet. > >Tnx for the Web sites >73 >David KG2EB > Go to court, plead not guilty. If the judge finds you guilty, your fine will probably be reduced as tickets rarely go for full price in court. They can't afford the time to go the distance with you, and most are more than happy to plea bargain down to a lesser fine. It happens all the time. Stop by a court session some day and see what goes on. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: NCZN58B@prodigy.com (James Dean) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 9 Nov 1995 06:44:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47s80t$1b0c@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <478g1o$ipd@library.erc.clarkson.edu> <47ef5f$avk@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap5.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 I can sure agree with the statements regarding purchasing something unobtrusive. I own a plain white Freightliner conventional tractor- trailer that looks like the sort that any major trucking company would buy, while a friend of mine has a fancy red Kenworth with more chrome than you can believe. We both run the same run, and he gets stopped and inspected at least twice as often as I do. - JAMES DEAN KD4USF NCZN58B@prodigy.com Yes that's really my name. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!main03!landisj From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Message-ID: <1995Nov9.161641.407@nad.com> Date: 9 Nov 95 16:16:41 EST References: <47ldgl$iup@library.erc.clarkson.edu> <47otme$p2d@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> <47qcvl$9q6@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Distribution: world Organization: North American Drager - Telford, PA Lines: 21 In article , ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) writes: > szinski@prairienet.org (Steve Zinski) writes: > >>My advise: Go to court. If you show the court that you are willing to >>take time out of your busy day to try and prove your innocence, chances >>are that you'll get a lighter punishment. > > There's an advantage in this advice. The advantage is, that the traffic > officer may not show up. They expect most people to mail in the fine. > I've gone to court three times in my younger days, and the case was > dismissed when I was the only one who showed up. [snip] Good advice. Also, if you're a wise ass and give the cop a hard time, you can bet he'll be at court waiting for you. So don't be confrontational with the cop either. This IS getting pretty far off topic though. Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!narc From: narc@teleport.com (nunnya) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 10 Nov 1995 11:22:12 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 43 Message-ID: <47vcl4$l5p@maureen.teleport.com> References: <478g1o$ipd@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kelly.teleport.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Steve Sampson (ssampson@icon.net) wrote: : curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) writes: : >When i asked to see the inform : >ation on his radar equipment he said that there is nothing to see. : If he marked "RADAR" on the ticket, you have won the case! It is improper : to use radar as a witness, when it's data cannot be verified. That throws : out the radar part. Now you have to throw out the policeman part. Here's : how: Get your lawyer to get a copy of the published procedures the police : will use. If you don't have a lawyer, then get it yourself. *** Here we go again, with these Sunday, lawyers! This is mostly BS... not al radars have a hold capability, most mooving radars do however, if the officer was driving at this point in time, it would not be a safe practice for him to take his hands off the wheel at the perticular point in time. I personnaly do not work radar because they usually end up in court, whcih means i have to come in on my days off, but i hope this answers your questions, sir. jeff : Note where it says that the person cited may view the radar evidence. If : there is no such procedure, you've also won, because the Constitution : guarantees it. : >He : >has to "estimate" the speed of my car and then activate his radar equipment : >which only displays a speed figure as long as i am in his "window". After : >that, the speed disappears. : > If so, wouldnt the signal bounce : >off trees and rocks and other such hard surfaces on the other side of the : >road? *** no they dont bounce like that, there is a very small spread pattern to them. : Yes. All honest cops will gladly show you your speed. The ugly cop : will bluff his way. The ugly cop also needs to be identified to the : internal affairs division. Write a letter, endorse it with your lawyer, : or get it notarized. *** get a clue! From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!hookup!winternet.com!news.interlog.com!news.dra.com!news.mid.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!IntGame!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!zephyr.water.ca.gov!swanee.water.ca.gov!news.ucdavis.edu!tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu!ctbaker From: ctbaker@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (shatter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Q: are there any mods for the FT-51R? Date: 7 Nov 1995 20:19:10 GMT Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis Lines: 7 Message-ID: <47oevu$flh@mark.ucdavis.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am thinking of buying a Yaesu FT-51R HT radio and want to know if there are any mods out for this radio. Thanks Chad Baker From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:36 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Q: What dual band HT to b From: clint.bradford@woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wwswinc!clint.bradford Distribution: world Message-ID: <93.12408.7585.0NFBB7A7@woodybbs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 23:58:00 -0500 Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc. - 516-736-6662 Lines: 12 Subject: Q: What dual band HT to buy? >>I have been looking at the following radios: You should include Standard products in your short list. You'll be glad you did! Clint Bradford --- * TLX v4.00 * ATTENTION to Details AMATEUR RADIO BBS - 909/681-6221 ţ wcECHO 4.1 ÷ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ţ Mira Loma, CA ţ 909-681-6221 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.eunet.fi!KremlSun!kiae!relcom!newsserv From: "Oleg A. Chernozyomov" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Question to radio engineers about SINAD Date: Thu, 09 Nov 95 19:14:38 +0300 Distribution: world Organization: Radio-Autograph Message-ID: Sender: news-service@kiae.su Reply-To: victoria@rada1.saratov.su X-Return-Path: kiae!Intercom.MVC.net!bbs.Intercom.MVC.net!bbs.businf.ru!bbs!rada!rada1.saratov.su!victoria Lines: 23 lenggen@fasnov1.zuerich.sc.philips.nl (Markus Lenggenhager) wrote: >SINAD stands for "signal, noise and distortion", but is often used to >represent the signal to noise ratio. As such, it is also measured in dB. > >73, Markus HB9BRJ > Dear Markus, Thank you for coming back. Yes, I have an overall idea what is SINAD. But there are figures in this standard, and I would like to reference them to other known units. Say, level 1 in SINAD is N dB, or something like this. Thank you, Oleg UA4CIF From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wa6awd@aol.com (WA6AWD) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Question to radio engineers about SINAD Date: 10 Nov 1995 10:22:41 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 39 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <47vqo1$n5k@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article , "Oleg A. Chernozyomov" writes: > >Is there a radio engineer who could explain >the standard figures of a measurement system SINAD? I am not a radio engineer, but a radio technician who works on two-way radio equipment and uses the SINAD measurement. It is a way of measuring FM receiver sensitivity. It means SIgnal plus Noise And Distortion. A signal generator is modulated with a 1-KHz tone at 2/3 system deviation. This signal is fed into the receiver under test at a high signal level where the receiver is receiving the signal with no noise at all. The output of the audio stages are supposed to be set at rated audio output. The audio output from the receiver is fed into a device that has an audio notch at the 1-KHz tone frequency. At this point the output level is measured in dB. Then the rf output from the signal generator is reduced to where the receiver is starting to have noise mixed with the 1-KHz audio output. At the point where the audio output goes up 12 dB because of the noise from the low amount of received signal, that is where the rf output is noted in microvolts or decibels. A good receiver in the 150-MHz region might have a 12 dB SINAD reading of 3 microvolts, or about -117 dBm. I hope this helps. Alan - WA6AWD - Kent, WA From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Question to radio engineers about SINAD Date: 10 Nov 1995 12:08:52 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 16 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4800v4$q88@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: wa6ube@aol.com (WA6UBE) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com victora@rada1.saratov.su writes: >Please, could anybody explain the figures and levels of SINAD, >compared to a decibels scale? What is level 0, etc. 0 dB SiNAD just means there is no signal to noise ratio that can be measured. the meter may bounce around a bit because of the effect of the 1 KHz filter in the meter. As the rf signal level is increased, the higher signal to noise ratio in the receiver translates to a higher "SINAD" reading. Trish .. WA6UBE@aol.com "The Vertical Skywave Girl" From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!online!wb3ffv!news.cais.net!grouper.Exis.Net!news From: buch@exis.net (Joe Buch) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Question to radio engineers about SINAD Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 13:55:35 GMT Organization: Exchange Information Systems Networks Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47vlju$v58@grouper.Exis.Net> References: Reply-To: buch@exis.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 56.exis.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 "Oleg A. Chernozyomov" wrote: >Is there a radio engineer who could explain >the standard figures of a measurement system SINAD? The term SINAD is a corruption of S/NAD which stands for signal to noise and distortion ratio. It simply means that at some signal levels the receiver may introduce distortion products which add to the noise. The presence of those distortion products makes the signal harder to hear. At any given signal level the signal to noise ratio will be larger than the signal to noise and distortion ratio. ~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~' Joe Buch N2JB Editor, NASWA Journal Technical Topics buch@exis.net -*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_ From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:41 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: R.S. policies and res From: clint.bradford@woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wwswinc!clint.bradford Distribution: world Message-ID: <93.12409.7585.0NFBB7A8@woodybbs.com> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 95 23:58:00 -0500 Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc. - 516-736-6662 Lines: 13 Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect >>A [Radio Shack] clerk in my local store actually refused to sell me a >>9-pin RS-232 gender bender unless I gave him my name and address. Difficult to believe - your District Manager should be advised of this gentleman's actions. Clint Bradford --- * TLX v4.00 * If there's one thing I can't stand, it's intolerance. ţ wcECHO 4.1 ÷ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ţ Mira Loma, CA ţ 909-681-6221 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:42 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock From: dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) Subject: Re: R.S. policies and respect Sender: news@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com (SQF News Admin) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:24:31 GMT References: Nntp-Posting-Host: hpqmocc.sqf.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard LTD, South Queensferry, Scotland X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.8] Lines: 29 Jim Lowman (jlowman@netcom.com) wrote: : I think I will be "Jack Offenback" the next time I go to a RS store other : than the one where I usually shop; the manager there is a member of our : local radio club. How about a very long name and address with very difficult spelling? Something that takes 10-15 minutes just to get the guy to write, something that takes out a salesman for the amount of time that the manager will notice, and will make him think of missed sales. If you want to make a protest, it may be more effective if the pain is felt at the point of the problem, rather than being offset elsewhere. I think a hexasyllabic names from Sri Lanka, with a Welsh address may make a good starting point. Look up the victorian era railway station at the Anglesey end of the Menai bridge. Llanfairpwllgwynygogereddgwyndroglllantisioliogogogogh (sp? ;-) ) Once, when south of the border, in England, I quoted "first floor apartment, 1601 Pennsylvania avenue, Washington DC, USA" in a Tandy shop, and the bloke just asked for the postcode. Oh, well. Cheers David GM4ZNX From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.is.net!news From: csegar@is.net (Cliff Segar) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack and HT Sales Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 00:47:28 GMT Organization: The Internet Connection Lines: 18 Message-ID: <47me0p$15p@news1.is.net> References: <46rcun$qqn@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: csegar.is.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 sid@hal-pc.org wrote: >I worked for RS for a year. They know it requires a license to use a >ham radio. They don't care. If you have the money, they >will sell it to you. I never would do it. It really pissed off the manager. >Sid George, CPA sid@hal-pc.org To start with, there is nothing illegal about owning a Xmtr with out a license. I have owned a HF Xcvr for several years now and am still not licensed to Xmit with it. (something about element 1a). But, thanks to RS, I do own a 70cm HT. I was NOT licensed to Xmit with it when I bought it (for $125US - eat your heart out!) but rapidly passed the NoCode Tech as soon as I found a VE. Thank goodness the US is still free enough to permit us to posess some objects that could be used unlawfully but entrusts us with enough common sense to figure that out for ourselves. de KF4DZV From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!southwind.net!symbios.com!mjohnson.wichitaks.ncr.com!msjohnso From: msjohnso@KS.Symbios.COM (Mark Johnson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack and HT Sales Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:40:45 Organization: Symbios Logic Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <46rcun$qqn@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org> <47k1mu$epj@cc.iu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mjohnson.wichitaks.ncr.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <47k1mu$epj@cc.iu.net> wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) writes: >In <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org>, sid@hal-pc.org writes: >>I worked for RS for a year. They know it requires a license to use a ham radio. They don't care. If you have the money, they >>will sell it to you. I never would do it. It really pissed off the manager. >you could put the store and company in serious legal trouble..it's not illegal to >sell a radio to someone. it's not illegal for them to listen using the radio. >it's just illegal for them to transmit w/o proper authorization for the band they're >on... But for the most part, private businesses are free to refuse to sell to whomever they like. I don't see that the *company* would be in serious trouble in this situation, but if the policy was to sell to anybody, the individual who insisted on selling only to licensed amateurs might get in trouble with his boss... ========== Mark Johnson USnail: Symbios Logic, Inc E-mail: Mark.Johnson@symbios.com OEM RAID Business Team Voice: (316) 636-8189 [V+654-8189] 3718 N. Rock Rd. Visit our web page: http://www.symbios.com Wichita, KS 67226 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.voicenet.com!netnews.upenn.edu!news.drexel.edu!news.ge.com!ctrlnews.erie.ge.com!news.crd.ge.com!rebecca!rpi!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dfw.net!news.dfw.net!not-for-mail From: boakley@dfw.net (Brian Oakley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Radio Shack Frequency Counter Date: 1 Nov 1995 09:48:14 -0600 Organization: DFWNet -- Public Internet Access Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4784ru$bsh@dfw.net> X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] [ Article crossposted from rec.radio.cb ] [ Author was Brian Oakley ] [ Posted on 1 Nov 1995 09:46:17 -0600 ] A while back, someone posted a mod for a frequency hold button for the Radio Shack Frequency counter. Can someone email it to me or repost it or tell me where I can find it? Thanks. boakley@dfw.net From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!newsrelay.netins.net!news.netins.net!s183.netins.net!user From: MMiller@netins.net (Mike Miller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT-deaf Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 17:41:01 -0600 Organization: INS Info Services, Des Moines, Iowa, USA Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <1995Nov1.202253.26020@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <47bpuv$jud@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <1995Nov3.062304.3765@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <47g20h$gub@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s183.netins.net In article <47g20h$gub@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, gamma7@ix.netcom.com (J. Duffy Beischel) wrote: > In <1995Nov3.062304.3765@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary > Coffman) writes: > > >Do you have anything other than racist blather about Korean quality, > >and venom toward Tandy's excellent warrantee plans, to offer? In > other > >words, what exactly is your complaint about the HTX-202? > > Oh, now this is too funny. Critisize the quality of products made in a > particular country and that is racist. I guess one should expect this > kind of double talk today in the present political climate. When you > don't like something said about someone immediately go to the racist > charge. The beef is that goods made in Korea are generally not of the > same quality is goods coming from the U.S., Japan and many of the > Western European countries. Most educated people recognize this. It's > your problem if you see this as racist. > Thanks for the debate. Debate generally refers to comparing competing claims on the basis of evidence and warrants, not hurling ad hominems back and forth. Mike Miller, KB0JGS and high school debate coach From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!uunet!in2.uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gamma7@ix.netcom.com (J. Duffy Beischel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack HT-deaf Date: 9 Nov 1995 13:43:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 13 Message-ID: <47t0he$boj@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <1995Nov1.202253.26020@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <47bpuv$jud@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <1995Nov3.062304.3765@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <47g20h$gub@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-cin3-12.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Nov 09 5:43:10 AM PST 1995 In MMiller@netins.net (Mike Miller) writes: >> Thanks for the debate. > >Debate generally refers to comparing competing claims on the basis of >evidence and warrants, not hurling ad hominems back and forth. > >Mike Miller, KB0JGS and high school debate coach And your point is...? From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!sdd.hp.com!frankensun.altair.com!simtel!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!info.usuhs.mil!hq.hq.af.mil!news From: Vincent D'Elia Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Radio Shack VOX headset Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:49:26 -0800 Organization: Air Force Pentagon Communications Agency, Wash D.C. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <30A3ACC6.3060@comm.hq.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: gmsi2.comm.hq.af.mil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b1 (Windows; I; 16bit) CC: deliav@comm.hq.af.mil Does anyone have experence with one of these things. I tested one using a scanner to receive and it seems to have worked fine. I using an FT-470. Also has anyone seen another headset that does the same thing. Vince KC6ISS From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!netaxis.com!root From: mlapolt@netaxis.com (Mark LaPolt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Ramsey FX440 Date: 7 Nov 1995 04:34:38 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 12 Message-ID: <47mnku$8qd@henry.netaxis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: du51.netaxis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Has anyone out there received satisfactory results with the Ramsey FX440 transceiver kit? I built one, but once completed, I noticed a plethora of ploblems. For instance, the microphone amp not working, the VCO being VERY susceptable to 'mechanical' noise (i.e. touching the board with an insulated tweaker), no power out, and lousy sensitivity. I thought I did a pretty decent job assembing this thing, but either I'm WAY off in my assembly techniques, or the kit's not what it's cracked up to be. I'm going to start troubleshooting the rig this week (I hope), and will keep any interested parties up to date. mlapolt@netaxis.com Mark LaPolt N1UNE From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!huey.cadvision.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!catseye.bluemarble.net!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!watt.oedison.com!usenet From: wagnerj@watt.oedison.com (John Wagner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:47:10 GMT Organization: Ohio Edison Company, Akron OH Lines: 58 Message-ID: <47vob6$flq@watt.oedison.com> References: <47r7nf$4a@lambchop> <47tucb$o78@gw.PacBell.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: go-bus-appl-4-8x.oedison.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 In article <47r7nf$4a@lambchop>, Ron Thompson wrote: >>I was recently experimenting with code squelch on some local >>repeaters. I found that ALL the repeaters I tried fail to >>transmit the tones. I thought code squelch would be great to >>facilitate quiet standby, but it's going to be pretty much >>useless if it doesn't work through repeaters. >> >>Does anyone know why this happens? Are there any ways around >>it? I agree that this make coded squelch pretty useless, but it reduces the hacker factor on repeaters. There are a couple of work arounds that I know of: Most repeater controllers (all of the ACC brand and others) will pass all tones through the repeater if they are prefixed with a certain digits. For example, if your local repeater passed all tones that followed the sequence 123, and your friends radio opened up with 456, you would enter 123 456. The 123 tells the controller to pass the following digits, and only the 456 would actually be heard on the repeater's output. Talk with the repeater's owner/control op/programmer and see if they will sanction this activity and give you the pass through codes. The other work around is that most controllers (again, all ACC and most others) have the ability to generate DTMF tones for paging purposes. Each user is assigned a "paging slot", and that slot contains the type of paging (DTMF, 2 tone, 6 tone, etc) , and the digits that will be transmitted when that slot is activated. When you enter the secret squirrel code, the repeater will transmit the programmed DTMF digits for you. We use this on our machine as a weather alert. We connected a weather radio to our repeater controller (RC-850), and when the alert tone goes off, the repeater sends out a DTMF page of 0000. That way, people can leave their HTs on in quiet mode, and they will wake up when the weather alert tone goes off. It also gives a convenient group call function. Once again, chat with the repeater owner/control op/programmer to see if their controller will to this, and to get it set up. Good luck! John, N8CID ------------------------------------------------------------------- John Wagner wagnerj@watt.oedison.com -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzCbmRAAAAEH/2XyyuEu+F2a5SmdU2P+62bAPivG1+5A4mmjy6diK3pW3lW4 sUfxiv0UzZrDC+nicvNW3GlazwM2Oc2dLwlX/OX9CszWDryg5rK4Ga8X5dj1mlac QwG2ESHUIbCkOLUvXJOWDFhuFNtrTk1q1aepRWg1YsRxFnHqBaQCdBX2c3ctE6T3 vQJk/4FMimpQcPNEupCUtX8lk2rly1GSeIUxvY95eZXhdQZyK7Uiquyokc1bxBwb 7uhNtNhjNi7JpI4wtTP1uC1bGaXLWCAw6w6JHXnFspPqcgRKjn0y0ZUeiYJ7lc1R G+qfmoIsWwtsHz/Skb4UfuTaakhD8uL+eM1x48EABRG0HkpvaG4gV2FnbmVyIDxX YWduZXJKV0Btc24uY29tPg== =WVd9 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.mind.net!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!purdue!yuma!holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU!drranu From: drranu@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Emarit Ranu) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Road trip through Kansas... Date: 8 Nov 1995 05:42:29 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47pg05$4o2e@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: holly.acns.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello, I will be cruising through Kansas via I-70 in a few weeks and would like to know of the more popular 2m/440 repeater frequencies along this route. I want to make it through without having to resort to the stereo! If anyone has any suggestions, please do tell. Thanks! -- -Emarit 73's drranu@holly.ColoState.EDU Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy KG0CQ _._ __. _____ _._. __._ Packet: KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.databank.com!usenet From: medcalf@databank.com (Karl Medcalf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Road trip through Kansas... Date: 8 Nov 1995 13:17:27 GMT Organization: Databank InterNet News Server Lines: 36 Message-ID: <47qal7$stg@news1.databank.com> References: <47pg05$4o2e@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: law3-ts7.databank.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 In article <47pg05$4o2e@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, drranu@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU says... > > > > Hello, I will be cruising through Kansas via I-70 in a few weeks > and would like to know of the more popular 2m/440 repeater frequencies > along this route. I want to make it through without having to resort > to the stereo! If anyone has any suggestions, please do tell. > > Thanks! > >-- > -Emarit 73's drranu@holly.ColoState.EDU > Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy > KG0CQ _._ __. _____ _._. __._ > Packet: KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM I presume you're going West to East, so I'll list a few for you. Since I live in the northeast part, I'm not too familiar with the far west. Salina KS - 147.03+ Topeka KS - 146.67- Lawrence KS - 147.03+ Those are the most popular - of course when you get near KC, just pick a freq! Have a good trip -- 73, Karl Internet: medcalf@databank.com Packet: WK5M @ WK5M.#NEKS.KS.USA.NOAM ***** The views and opinions expressed here are mine and do not ***** ***** necessarily reflect those of my employer! ***** From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!prairienet.org!no9z From: no9z@prairienet.org (Lynn D. Osterbur) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RS replies to NAME and PHONE # policy Date: 7 Nov 1995 02:02:17 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 14 Message-ID: <47men9$2h5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: firefly.prairienet.org About 10 days ago, I sent Radio Shack a note and a disk with many comments, concerning their policy of asking for your name and address. Today I received a reply from (get this) their ASSISTANT MANAGER - Customer Relations. Impressive huh? The key statement was as follows: "I must tell you frankly that we regard our name-and-address policy as a good one and plan to continue with it as-is." They do have an e-mail address: rs.customer.relations@tandy.com For what its worth. 73 Lynn -- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: RS replies to NAME and PHONE # policy Date: 7 Nov 1995 16:13:57 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47o0k5$eak@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47men9$2h5@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 no9z@prairienet.org (Lynn D. Osterbur) wrote: > > > About 10 days ago, I sent Radio Shack a note and a disk with many >comments, concerning their policy of asking for your name and address. >Today I received a reply from (get this) their ASSISTANT MANAGER - >Customer Relations. Impressive huh? > > The key statement was as follows: "I must tell you frankly that we >regard our name-and-address policy as a good one and plan to continue >with it as-is." Good for WHOM? I'm sure it's good for all the junk mail distributors that RS sells their list to and also RS themselves. For the customer, I'm not so sure. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!ki7mh From: ki7mh@delphi.com (Robert Wedlock) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RS-12 robot and Mir qsl Date: 7 Nov 1995 01:56:58 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 11 Message-ID: <9511062035591.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1g.delphi.com X-To: Robert Wedlock Hello.. Where does one send for a QSL card for working the RS-12 robot? Also where does one send for a QSL card for working R0MIR? Thanks! -- Robert S. Wedlock "Strive" - Buddha ki7mh@delphi.com (Household) rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Private) ki7mh@kd7bn.wy.usa.na (Packet radio) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ns1.win.net!bjohns!bret Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <2202@bjohns.win.net> Reply-To: bret@bjohns.win.net (Bret A. Johnson) From: bret@bjohns.win.net (Bret A. Johnson) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 02:55:40 GMT Subject: Shutle Lines: 9 I was wondering with the shuttle lunch this weekend what freqs do they send on? Do they use 2M at all? How or where can I find this info? Thanks... From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.mind.net!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!swidir.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!moritz From: moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Shutle Date: 8 Nov 1995 17:40:25 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Lines: 10 Message-ID: <47qq29$2tco@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <2202@bjohns.win.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de In article <2202@bjohns.win.net>, Bret A. Johnson wrote: >I was wondering with the shuttle lunch this weekend what freqs do they >send on? Are they QRV during lunch? And how will be the modulation? Speaking while chewing is difficult enough down here, but in space? Than, that may by why astronauts receive special training. 73, Moritz DL5UH From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!netaxis.com!root From: mlapolt@netaxis.com (Mark LaPolt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Shutle Date: 9 Nov 1995 05:19:36 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 24 Message-ID: <47s318$59b@henry.netaxis.com> References: <2202@bjohns.win.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: du23.netaxis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 In article <2202@bjohns.win.net>, bret@bjohns.win.netż says... > >I was wondering with the shuttle lunch this weekend what freqs do they >send on? > >Do they use 2M at all? > >How or where can I find this info? > >Thanks... > > Yes, they do use 2m. I don't have the frequencies on me, but my club (Greater Norwalk Amateur Radio Club, nothing like a plug, eh?) is involved in the upcoming (STS-74) mission's SAREX. The have a 5w FM transceiver, and a 'window' antenna. Mark LaPolt N1UNE mlapolt@netaxis.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!bbs.mhv.net!Thomas.Randall From: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net (Thomas Randall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Shutle Date: 8 Nov 1995 03:40:54 GMT Organization: MHVNet, the Mid Hudson Valley's Internet connection Lines: 30 Message-ID: <47p8s6$n09@over.mhv.net> References: <2202@bjohns.win.net> Reply-To: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net NNTP-Posting-Host: csbh.mhv.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Bret A. Johnson (bret@bjohns.win.net) wrote: : I was wondering with the shuttle lunch this weekend what freqs do they : send on? : Do they use 2M at all? : How or where can I find this info? : Thanks... : For the Mir docking missions they use 144.450 and 144.470 for the uplink and 145.840 for the downlink. They WILL NOT favor either uplink. They will be working voice mode only. They will not start using the equiptment until AFTER the docking is complete. Callsigns: KB5AWP - Ken Cameron N5SCW - Jerry Ross KC5ACR - Bill McArthur KC5RNJ - Chris Hadfield KC5RNI - Jim Halsell All the astronauts on this flight are hams! Won't be a first by the way. Tom - KB2SMS From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:07:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!blv-pm11-ip27.halcyon.com!user From: tedt@halcyon.com (Ted Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Standard #C5608DA - sub audibles? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 17:51:30 -0700 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm11-ip27.halcyon.com I have a Standard C5608DA and would like to install a sub-audible tone. I don't find anything in the anual. If someone knows how to do this, Please email. Thanks Ted - KB7ZQQ tedt@halcyon.com From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!OzEmail!usenet From: vk8tk@ozemail.com.au (Tony Kekalos) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Standard C508A Freq Range Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:17:34 GMT Organization: OzEmail Pty Ltd - Australia Lines: 9 Message-ID: <480kon$9ng@oznet03.ozemail.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: slali1p13.ozemail.com.au X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99a.107 I just purchased the Standard C508A dual band HT and would like to know if anyone can tell me the receive frequency range for this radio. I recall reading this information in some publication about two months ago, but cannot remember which one. The owners manual just goes into the 2m and 70cm portions. Thanks in advance for any help. 73. Tony -- Tony Kekalos, Alice Springs, NT, Australia email: vk8tk@ozemail.com.au From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:01 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Standard C508A Freq Range Message-ID: <1995Nov11.030204.15338@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <480kon$9ng@oznet03.ozemail.com.au> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 03:02:04 GMT Lines: 38 In article <480kon$9ng@oznet03.ozemail.com.au> vk8tk@ozemail.com.au (Tony Kekalos) writes: >I just purchased the Standard C508A dual band HT and would like to >know if anyone can tell me the receive frequency range for this radio. >I recall reading this information in some publication about two months >ago, but cannot remember which one. The owners manual just goes into >the 2m and 70cm portions. Thanks in advance for any help. 73. Tony You could just turn the knob and find out. :-) When I do that on mine, band 1 covers 100-200 MHz (be sure AM detector is on for aircraft frequencies), band 2 covers 300-400 MHz, band 3 covers 400-520 MHz, and band 4 covers 700-999 MHz, with a gap blocked for cellular frequencies thanks to our ECPA law. You probably don't have that blocked on yours. (Not that it matters, band 4 has zero image rejection and you can just tune to the cellular image frequencies for a little illegal snooping on your neighbors.) Sensitivity is horrible outside the 2m and 70cm bands with the supplied rubber dummy load, but with a Comet SMA-3 sensitivity comes up to a respectable level across the entire range. The VCO may not lock at some of the band edges. The display will blink when this happens. I know of two mods for this radio. One unblocks cellular, but as I noted that doesn't much matter anyway, and the other allows transmit anywhere it will receive. Since that's also generally illegal here, it's rather moot as well. This radio is a neat toy, but the supplied manual is the worst I've ever seen. Try reading it upside down from back to front. That may make it easier to understand. At least it does include a block diagram, which is more than I can say for the IC-706 manual. :-( Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!roper.uwyo.edu!roper.uwyo.edu!nntp Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: telephone gets AM radio station(s) Message-ID: <1995Nov9.150407.17252@roper.uwyo.edu> From: dlarson@UWYO.EDU (D. Larson) Date: 9 Nov 95 15:04:06 MST Reply-To: dlarson@UWYO.EDU Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming, Laramie Nntp-Posting-Host: plains.uwyo.edu Lines: 20 I know this may not be the best group to post this to but I think someone here may be able to help. I recently moved to a new building and I can hear a radio station in the background. There is a radio station antenna about 1/4 of a mile from my new home and sure enough, that is the one I can hear very clearly on my telephone. I can sometimes hear another one but it is not as strong and I don't know where their transmitter is located. Anyhow, the frequencies are 1230 AM and 1450 AM. A guy from US West came over and tried installing some filter that had dip switches to select different bands to filter out but according to the way the dip switches needed to be set, the two stations need ed different settings on the filter so he used another kind that had no switches. This helped but the problem is still there. I tried a ferrite coil in different locations on the phone line just before it reaches the phone, I have also tried relocating the phone and using different phones, all with no luck. Does anybody have any suggestions. Thanks so much. Donald Larson KC7EGB Bozeman MT From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc123.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: telephone gets AM radio station(s) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 18:38:11 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 18 Distribution: usa Message-ID: References: <1995Nov9.150407.17252@roper.uwyo.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc123.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] dlarson@UWYO.EDU (D. Larson) writes: > I tried a >ferrite coil in different locations on the phone line just before it reaches >the phone, I have also tried relocating the phone and using different phones, >all with no luck. Get an AT&T filter and insert in in the line. If that doesn't work, buy an RF proof phone. The FCC published a list of phones, but I don't know where the list is today. Try sending mail to info@arrl.org. Maybe they saved it. The other thing you may want to do is have an electrician come out and inspect the home. You may just have a bunch of junk phones. See what the neighbors are using, and borrow it. The best advice is to never move within a 1/4 mile of an AM station. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!brutus.bright.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!hookup!nic.wat.hookup.net!noc.tor.hookup.net!ve3ied!gts!westonia!projx!jim.ramage From: jim.ramage@projectx.com (JIM RAMAGE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The "I" man is a ham Message-ID: <8B43463.0F4C002629.uuout@projectx.com> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 95 18:43:00 -5 Distribution: world Organization: Project X BBS - VE3SVE - Brampton, Ontario (905) 792-7890 Reply-To: jim.ramage@projectx.com (JIM RAMAGE) References: <8029112332502@ccsnet.com> X-Newsreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Lines: 26 =========================================================================== BBS: ®® Project X ŻŻ Date: 10/29/95 (05:31) Number: 9741 From: K1OIK Refer#: NONE To: ALL Recvd: NO Subj: The "I" man is a ham Conf: (3916) rec.radio. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- K1+>˙@FROM :k1oik@ccsnet.com N +>I work at.....etc etc etc. The only time they say "we" is when they +>really mean "I." K1+>In a contact see if a ham E V E R asks YOU about Y O U . You're right, Burt! This is something we (grin) noticed years ago when I started in CB (now wipe that grin off your face (chickle)). I never thought that I'd hear it again once I became an amateur operator! I think the best line was from a trucker... "We gotta go real bad, so I'm gonna jump out here at the rest station"... That's a trick & a half! Two (or more of 'us') have to "go", but it only takes ONE to do the business!?!? 73 - an' we'll catch you later! Hey! Put that knife down.. It was ONLY A JOKE! --- ţ SLMR 2.0 ţ jim.ramage@projectx.com/-\VA3JLR@VE3INF.#SCON.ON.CAN.NA From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!smackay From: smackay@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The "I" man is a ham Date: 10 Nov 1995 05:46:36 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 32 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47uovs$sh4@guava.epix.net> References: <8029112332502@ccsnet.com> <8B43463.0F4C002629.uuout@projectx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mango.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The Ham was around when 11 meters was a ham band. Been licensed almost 40 years and still have trouble dropping the imperial/editorial we......:-) 73 W7GSM JIM RAMAGE (jim.ramage@projectx.com) wrote: : =========================================================================== : BBS: ®® Project X ŻŻ : Date: 10/29/95 (05:31) Number: 9741 : From: K1OIK Refer#: NONE : To: ALL Recvd: NO : Subj: The "I" man is a ham Conf: (3916) rec.radio. : --------------------------------------------------------------------------- : K1+>˙@FROM :k1oik@ccsnet.com N : +>I work at.....etc etc etc. The only time they say "we" is when they : +>really mean "I." : K1+>In a contact see if a ham E V E R asks YOU about Y O U . : You're right, Burt! This is something we (grin) noticed years ago when : I started in CB (now wipe that grin off your face (chickle)). I never : thought that I'd hear it again once I became an amateur operator! : I think the best line was from a trucker... : "We gotta go real bad, so I'm gonna jump out here at the rest : station"... That's a trick & a half! Two (or more of 'us') have to : "go", but it only takes ONE to do the business!?!? : 73 - an' we'll catch you later! : Hey! Put that knife down.. It was ONLY A JOKE! : --- : ţ SLMR 2.0 ţ jim.ramage@projectx.com/-\VA3JLR@VE3INF.#SCON.ON.CAN.NA From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:07 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov!ames!news.hawaii.edu!jherman From: jherman@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) Subject: Re: The "I" man is a ham X-Nntp-Posting-Host: uhunix3.its.hawaii.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu Organization: University of Hawaii References: <8029112332502@ccsnet.com> <472bot$lpt@alterdial.UU.NET> <47a96i$a3r@alterdial.UU.NET> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 04:08:58 GMT Lines: 19 Burt Fisher wrote: >>>>Burt Fisher >>>>Hams suffer drom the "I" disease. >>Burt fisher wrote: >>> I look like an idiot ^^^ >jherman@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) wrote: >>We know. Now try to say the above *without* using "I". >You look like an idiot? Heehee, nice job editing out your own attribution lines. I put them all back where they belong. No fair falsely attributing your comments to someone else! Don't forget to eat some prunes, Burt. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Stephan M. Anderman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #137 (for air through 11/17/95) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 95 23:01:15 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 47 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1f.delphi.com Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #137 of "This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered audio bulletin service, for the week ending 17-Nov: - 1. Shuttle Atlantis Scheduled for Lift-off with an All-Ham Crew 2. Amateurs Aboard MIR Continue Making Station Improvements 3. VE3ONT Will Not Be Operational for ARRL EME Contest 4. Austrian Amateurs to Celebrate Millenium with Special Calls 5. TAPR Expands Home Page Services for Internet Users 6. R.A.D.I.O. Establishes WWW Home Page 7. "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR 8. "This Week" to Carry Live Telephone Call-in Segment Next Week 9. Upcoming Special Event Stations with George Bowen, N2LQS 10. NASA Successfully Launches New CalTech "SurfSat" 11. "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago 12. Weekly Propagation Forecast 13. Major Geomagnetic Disturbance Detected by NASA Scientists 14. "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #952 from Los Angeles - Funding for the program's transmission and production expenses was provided this week by a grant from the AREC Repeater Group, of West Palm Beach, Florida, which carries "This Week in Amateur Radio" on the WA4HXZ repeater on 146.67 MHz, and heard in West Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Jupiter, and the Bahamas. Satellite time and uplink equipment have been provided by SKYVISION as a service to the amateur radio community. - "This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur radio news and information service, in audio newsmagazine format, which is produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, New York. The program is carried on the "Tech Talk Network" each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) on the Telstar 302 commercial communications satellite, transponder 21 (11V), 5.8 MHz wideband audio (4.120 GHz), located at 85 degrees west longitude in geosynchronous orbit, and can be heard on various VHF/UHF repeaters throughout the United States and Canada, as well as on 160 meters at 1860 kHz. Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if "This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area. - Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by contributions from repeater system operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals. For further information, contact George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665, or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/664-6809. You may also reach them via amateur packet @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA or on the Internet to KXKVI@DELPHI.COM or SANDERMAN@DELPHI.COM. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:10 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jsoohoo From: jsoohoo@netcom.com (John Soo-Hoo) Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Message-ID: Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <46lqh2$cs5@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> <46obe0$1g6u@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <471i7m$vvn@uwm.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:03:41 GMT Lines: 33 Sender: jsoohoo@netcom21.netcom.com In article <471i7m$vvn@uwm.edu> herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) writes: > >Just like you to blame everything on radio shack employees. Well, perhaps >you shoud think before you speak...3 out of 4 employees at the radio >shack I work at are Hams....In fact, I know alot of hams who work radio >shack. Obviously you are basing your opinions of radio shack on a few bad >experiences, or blaming us for things over which we have no control. >Guess what these are symptoms of? Ignorance. Uh huh, and in response to your post you are basing everything on a few Radio Shacks that you are familiar with. Tandy Corp.is ultimately responsible for the actions of their employees. Period. True, the salesman behind the counter wants to make a sale (do they work on commision?), but Tandy pays that guy and while that guy is working behind that counter Tandy is responsible for what that salesman says and does. The only way Tandy is going do something about it is if someone repeater trustee catches an unlicensed operator using equipment with the RS label. I dare say that if that happens AND the guy who gets caught admits that the salesperson told him that he didn't need a license, that Tandy could have a nice lawsuit to contend with. That's a lot of ifs, but should this scenario come true, I for one will not feel sorry for Tandy/Radio Shack. representative of Tandy while he is working. >P.S. It's unlawfull to require an amateur radio license for the purchase >of amateur gear, however illogical that seems. This is true, but salesmen giving false information is also unlawful as well. The whole point is not if salespeople represent the majority, but the fact that individuals ARE giving false info out of ignorance or intentionally. I too have had mixed reviews about the sales people at RS. One guy didn't know a license was required. Another knew and wanted to sell me a bunch of code tapes and books along with the radio. From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 7 Nov 1995 21:38:14 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 47 Message-ID: <47p56m$159@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <46lqh2$cs5@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> <471i7m$vvn@uwm.edu> <47o0s9$1il6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <47o0s9$1il6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >On what grounds? It is perfectly legal to sell an amateur transceiver to >an unlicensed individual. As for "Uh...well...the guy at Radio Shack >said I don't need a license", that would be his word against the clerk's, >with no proof that the statement was made. To get proof, all the trustee has to do is walk in and go through the motions of buying a transceiver for non-amateur use, to see if the HTX-202 gets recommended. Bring along a witness too. Radio Shack deals with the mass public looking for electronics equipment, they are not a specialty, niche store ala Ham Radio Outlet. While it is certainly true that RS can sell an HTX-whatever to whomever wants one, an argument can be made that since they deal with the public at large they have a higher standard of performance when it comes to informing people that a license to use the radio is necessary, and their failure to do so is misfeasance, hence they are liable for civil damages. To analyze this further, we can involk the "reasonable man standard". Is it reasonable that the average joe walking into radio shack would know that a license is required to use an amateur radio? Is it reasonable that the average joe walking into Ham Radio Outlet would know that a license is required to use an amateur radio? The answer to question #1 is probably "no", while the answer to question two is probably "yes". Hence, by not informing people that a amateur license is necessary, Radio Shack is being negligent by *not* informing people prior to a sale, hence the test for misfeasance is met. I daresay that if a repeater trustee can track an unauthorized user down, and that person admits they purchased the radio at RS, that the repeater trustee has a damn good case to recover monetary damages from RS. MD PS: Remember, as far as attornies go, you get what you pay for, so remember that you paid nothing for the above legal analysis. -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM!usenet From: rfm@urth.eng.sun.com (Richard McAllister) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 08 Nov 1995 17:08:02 GMT Organization: SunSoft, Inc. (of course, opinions here are my own) Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <46lqh2$cs5@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> <471i7m$vvn@uwm.edu> <47o0s9$1il6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <47p56m$159@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: urth.eng.sun.com In-reply-to: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com's message of 7 Nov 1995 21:38:14 -0500 In article <47p56m$159@anomaly.ideamation.com> kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes: >Radio Shack deals with the mass public looking for electronics >equipment, they are not a specialty, niche store ala Ham Radio Outlet. >While it is certainly true that RS can sell an HTX-whatever to >whomever wants one, an argument can be made that since they deal with >the public at large they have a higher standard of performance when >it comes to informing people that a license to use the radio is >necessary, Here, I agree with MD (a rare occurrence!) So does Radio Shack, apparently, since they put a notice that a license is required in the catalog, on the outside of the box the HT comes in, and in the instruction booklet inside. I haven't noticed that Yaecomwood ever do that. It's certainly easy to believe that some RS salescritter has recommended RS HT's for unlicensed use, but such is clearly counter to RS policy. Whether the RS corporation should be liable for the actions of one of their customers based on recommendations made by one of their stores' employees against established company policy, I dunno. Sounds a little far-fetched to me, but I guess a "good" plantiff lawyer could convince a judge and jury. Rich, KO6CL -- Rich McAllister (rfm@eng.sun.com) From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news2.acs.oakland.edu!newshub.gmr.com!rcsuna.gmr.com!news From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 09 Nov 1995 16:10:35 GMT Organization: General Motors R&D Center Lines: 77 Message-ID: References: <46lqh2$cs5@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> <46o4bd$b5@uwm.edu> <46pm93$jqg@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4757kt$2dui@watt.oedison.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rinhp750.gmr.com In-reply-to: wagnerj@watt.oedison.com's message of Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:23:09 GMT In article <4757kt$2dui@watt.oedison.com> wagnerj@watt.oedison.com (John Wagner) writes: > I think it *IS* RS's responsibility to help their customers select a > product that suits their needs, whether it is a stereo, a cell phone, or a > ham radio. That is impossible if some of their sales people don't even > know what these things are! As a part-time Radio Shack employee and an extra class amateur radio operator I think I may be able to offer some insight here. At Radio Shack the sales persons are paid on commission. It is in their best interest to know as much about a product as they can in order to maximize their takehome pay. A commmon problem is the product that won't 'stay sold'. You can get someone to take the product out of the store to get you off their back but it'll come back the next day, or the same day at the Radio Shack 5 miles down the road. The process of sizing up the customer's need and matching it with a product on the shelf is called 'qualifying' and is a part of the basic sales training that your Radio Shack sales person should have completed. > Quite a few RS employees in my area are hams, so this problem isn't too > bad, but for the benefit of the areas without this luxury, why can't RS > require that all its people pass a simple 25 question test with topics > like: "The main differences between HAM, GMRS, Business band, cellular, > unlicensed 49MHz, and CB radio are...". RS now sells all of these radios. > > My letter suggesting this is already on the way to > rs.customer.relations@tandy.com. I'm not sure that's a valid address. Anyhow the answer you'll get is that it's already a part of the training process. There are over a dozen self-study guides that cover such things as telephone devices (phones, answering machines, caller-id, wiring), home entertainment (stereos, equalizers, CDs, VCRs, satellite dishes etc), communications (CB, amateur, commercial, antennas etc), hookups, small parts, toys and games, computers, home security, auto-sound... There's an open book test for each study guide. In our district, everyone is expected to complete the series with a passing grade on each element. There's a lot to learn. A person that isn't motivated to learn it will sell fewer things and have a higher return rate. In the Detroit area I've seen a high turnover among Radio Shack employees. I don't doubt this is a common problem. Those folks that aren't motivated enough to become good sales people will have poor sales and quit because they aren't making enough money. I'm not boasting but I easily do $100/hour in sales and I get pretty rusty working only a few times per month. Most of the folks in the store where I work do $200/hour. The money's there but only if a person is willing to put the effort into learning the products and learning the sales techniques. Here's a suggestion: If you need to know something about a product wait for the busiest person in the store. The busiest person is often the most knowledgable. If you walk up to the guy that's leaning against a display watching TV you'll likely get the poorest advice. John, N8CID > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Wagner wagnerj@watt.oedison.com -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY > BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 > mQCNAzBuqR8AAAEEANvQys8u2c34i4w3U8AKovy2u7ihIuyckbDJCH7UCEnlp+B/ > A9PK8R8pspChPP71MrwqUxkRBgNw/X1BZBd1q3nhWllJJKqlWRcqpDMr39NzX9Ym > kdbOxbN6gw6w4OrK0r2UoLfQHT1AxNt5k27c6Kw+iIKIcqLRdSuE7dEmZ3UFAAUR > tCFKb2huIFcuIFdhZ25lciA8d2FnbmVyandAYW9sLmNvbT4= =ASKy -----END PGP > PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -- Val Breault vbreault@gmr.com \ /| ars N8OEF GM R&D Center - instrumentation dept. \ / | pres GM ARC My opinions are not necessarily those \ /__| HF mobile on of GM R&D or of the GM Corporation. \/ |___ 14.200 +/- From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: knyuen@fsac3.pica.ARmy.MIL (Ka-Nang Yuen, FSAC) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: unsubscribe Date: 7 Nov 95 19:16:23 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 2 Message-ID: <9511071416.aa14755@FSAC3.PICA.ARMY.MIL> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Unscuscribe From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: forsberg@cts.com (Bruce W. Forsberg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Updated Dove Sat. Decoder FREEWARE Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 05:28:28 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <47pf5a$s9j@news2.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: forsberg.cts.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.space:5647 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94018 I have just come out with a new version of my DOVE satellite decoder program (V2.0). It will decode the telemetry data that comes from the DOVE amateur radio satellite. In this release are numerous bug fixes and some new graphing capabilities. It requires windows 3.1, a packet TNC and a 2 meter rig. This program is FREEWARE and is available from the following sources: Internet FTP ftp.amsat.org /amsat/software/windows/telemetry/dovedv20.zip RadioSport BBS 619-279-3921 dovedv20.zip Mail In the US and Canada send $1 and I'll provide disk, mailer, and postage. Please specifiy disk size (5.25, 3.5) and send to: Bruce Forsberg 11178 Batavia Circle San Diego, CA. 92126 From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!frankensun.altair.com!uwvax!fullfeed!tricia!news.atw.fullfeed.com!online.dct.com!gbol8 From: bcrier@online.dct.com (Brent AA9OO) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WANTED!!! pro 24 Scanner mods Date: 8 Nov 1995 02:40:12 GMT Organization: Green Bay Online Lines: 4 Message-ID: <47p5ac$bne@online.dct.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gbol8.dct.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 I have a Radio Shack pro-24 handheld scanner that does 800 mhz is there any mods for it? Brent AA9OO From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.tcst.com!op.net!news.fyionline.com!news-out.internetmci.com!internetMCI!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!newshub.cts.com!sailou From: sailou@cts.com (lou wasmund) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wiring home for 220 outlet. Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 20:51:56 GMT Organization: CTSNET Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <47m70s$ih7@news2.cts.com> References: <47k0jv$lji@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sailou.cts.com kk5ep@aol.com (KK5EP) wrote: >Anybody ever wire your place for 220 so you can hook up a linear? HELP! >73, Mike (KK5EP@aol.com) 220V wiring uses 2 circuit breakers to supply 2 110V lines to a 220V receptacle.One common line also runs fron the breaker box to the receptacle.Do not use standard 110v receptacles.You want a receptacle rated for 220v use that there is no way one could accidentally plug a common household plug into!Check your local code for correct installation,wiring and grounding guidelines.Use properly sized breakers.Use correct size wire to avoid overheating and voltage drops (if long runs are involved) Again: consult your local / state electrical code. 73 KE6LZS From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!aimnet.com!netserv.com!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!usenet From: ka1jy@nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wiring home for 220 outlet. Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 03:54:44 GMT Organization: HamRadio Lines: 25 Message-ID: <47mad0$io1@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <47k0jv$lji@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: ka1jy@nai.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ka1jy.nai.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.113 On 5 Nov 1995 22:49:19 -0500, kk5ep@aol.com (KK5EP) wrote: >Anybody ever wire your place for 220 so you can hook up a linear? HELP! Ah, yea. Unless you live in a strange area your house is already wired with single phase 220, or 240, or 241 whatever it takes. (sorry... :) Converting an existing outlet to 240 can be tricky. Most houses are daisy chain wired with each chain going to more than one outlet or light. Putting in new wiring is the best bet. Just use standard 3wire indoor cable and put it in. White to one leg of the incoming, black to the other leg, and the ground to the ground block. Be SURE that you use an outlet that will not accept a standard 120 plug. You'll also need to put in a ganged 220 breaker. You COULD use two single breakers one on each leg, but i prefer the ganged type. It might even be a code requirement. (if it isn't it should be!) If all this confuses you call an electrical contractor. It might save your life or your house from a fire. Don't play with it if you don't understand how it works. Don't think that it's only house voltage, it's no big deal. 120vac will kill you damn quick. -be From Unknown Sat Nov 11 07:08:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.eznet.net!news.enterprise.net!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!delphi.cs.ucla.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!news.intelenet.com!rdatasys.com!periwinkle From: mdown@rdatasys.com (Mark A. Downing) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: yaesu FT900 windows control program Date: Wed, 08 Nov 95 22:55:21 GMT Organization: Geneva Lines: 13 Message-ID: <47rfvl$t2q@lionfish.rdatasys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: periwinkle.rdatasys.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 I am looking for people that might be interested in testing a radio control program for Yaesu's FT900/FT890. I would also like to hear from those people that have other Yaesu rigs, and would be interested in a windows control program. Btw, this program has limited logging features also. I need help in testing, and also would like suggestions for additional features, etc. If you are interested, please reply via email -> mdown@rdatasys.com 73 de AC6PN --Mark From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!delphi.cs.ucla.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!not-for-mail From: turner@safety.ics.uci.edu (Clark Savage Turner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna Restrictions Date: 11 Nov 1995 09:18:15 -0800 Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 24 Message-ID: <482lsn$nq9@safety.ics.uci.edu> References: <47m041$3ff@news2.isp.net> <47qk3f$7of@safety.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: safety.ics.uci.edu In jgardner@netcom.com (Jerry Gardner) writes: >Clark Savage Turner (turner@safety.ics.uci.edu) wrote: >: REASONABLE advice: Sure, pick up PRB-1. Get the PRB-1 packet from the >: ARRL. Then read Overbeck, Antennas and the Law, 1994 in June '94 >: CQ magazine for a realistic overview. >Some more advice: don't attempt to preemptively beat the building >inspector or planning commission over the head with PRB-1. Try to work >with them first, and only dredge up PRB-1 as a last resort. I've found >that inspectors and planning commissions resent people who attempt to >bully them before trying to work with them. Absolutely sound advice. That is exactly what the Overbeck article will show you. Not only that it is good to "work with" them first, but that PRB-1 does NOT carry real power anyway, and to use it as a threat is, in many cases, a paper tiger and can get you in deeper than you might wish to be. Good luck! Clark WA3JPG From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!news From: bsw@cs.brown.edu (Brian R. Swann) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna Restrictions Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:56:50 GMT Organization: Brown University Lines: 22 Message-ID: <482o71$k76@cocoa.brown.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rnpc1.cs.brown.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 sdolmft@interaccess.com (Steven D. Olson) wrote: >There's a slight possibility that I might be moving to New Jersey within the >next year. Do not know what community, yet. I am wondering how to easily >find out what local antenna restrictions there are in any given community when >beginning to house hunt. Is there a particular municipal agency which, in >most communities, can give that information quickly? Are there realtors who >are familiar with this issue? Any basic advice would be helpful. Please >answer by email. Thanks, Steve, sdolmft@interaccess.com >Dr. Steven D. Olson >Pastoral Counseling Center, Lutheran General Hospital >1610 Luther La., Park Ridge, Il., 60068-1243 >fax: 708-823-9222 sdolmft@interaccess.com voice: 708-518-1800 Dr, I can recommend a WWW URL for you to look at: http://www.hamweb.com/~sjl/STONER/ANTENNA.html It contains several articles about antenna restrictions. 73, Brian WA1VUT From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:41 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mv!usenet From: jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Message-ID: <30a97b79.206312800@192.80.84.4> Reply-To: jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) Organization: At home. Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:34:55 GMT References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.140 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: levin.mv.com Lines: 11 In <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: |Yep. And "Citizens' Band" allows for operation on frequencies below |30Mhz without requiring knowledge of Morse code. | |So much for the "we gotta keep the code due to international treaty" |argument. Please explain why this has anything to do with the amateur bands, which is the only thing that the International Amateur Radio Union and the morse code rules are concerned with. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:00:27 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48d6bb$j16@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >Yep. And "Citizens' Band" allows for operation on frequencies below >30Mhz without requiring knowledge of Morse code. > >So much for the "we gotta keep the code due to international treaty" >argument. Very funny, but dont forget a VERY LIMITED anount of bandwidth, and, 5 watts legal max. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!pinetree From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:51:23 GMT Organization: Microserve Information Systems (800)-380-INET Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48e5jk$qpd@crash.microserve.net> References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b1hd$cka@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pinetree.microserve.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: >Question: wouldn't these operators be much more inclined to make the >transition to legal, licensed operators if the Morse requirement was >eliminated? Just what we need - more CB'ers pretending to be hams. ;) 73, Jack WB3U From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:06:41 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b1hd$cka@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 mjsilva@ix.netcom.com (michael silva) wrote: > >In <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew >Durigan) writes: > >>Yep. And "Citizens' Band" allows for operation on frequencies below >>30Mhz without requiring knowledge of Morse code. >> >>So much for the "we gotta keep the code due to international treaty" >>argument. > >Geez, Drew, what *are* you talking about? NOBODY said *all* HF >services require CW ability "due to international treaty". We're >talking about international *amateur* regulations. > >Mike, KK6GM This is true...but I see a serious problem with the international treaty rules here. Consider: You cannot obtain a license and operate legally on 10-meters without passing a Morse code test...but yet you can go into any truck stop and, relatively inexpensively, purchase a radio and amplifier for outband 11- meters that will allow you worldwide contacts with basically the same propagation characteristics and no need for either Morse knowledge or licensing of any kind. Yes, I know that it's illegal...but the reality is that several thousands of operators can be heard there whenever the band is open and nobody seems to care. Question: wouldn't these operators be much more inclined to make the transition to legal, licensed operators if the Morse requirement was eliminated? -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!news.easynet.co.uk!newsfeed.easynet.co.uk!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Callsign Question? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 14:45:37 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 14 Message-ID: <816360337snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <466dgd$si8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article samalfano@delphi.com "Sam Alfano" writes: > When does the "vanity callsign" program start? Anyone know? I guess we're waiting for OMB to approve FCC Form 610-V. And they just all went away on a new Federal holiday! Perhaps before Christmas. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!elvis.delphi.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Sam Alfano Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Callsign Question? Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:50:50 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 2 Message-ID: References: <466dgd$si8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <48a6pt$ubi@hubcap.clemson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1f.delphi.com X-To: Bill DuBroff Is there a place where one can view a list of available calls for the Vanity Callsigns program? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!pcnet.com!usenet From: nema@pcnet.com (Richard Lubash) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: code help Date: 10 Nov 1995 18:30:10 GMT Organization: PCNet -- Public Access Internet in Connecticut! Lines: 30 Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[5567] Message-ID: <4805ni$nn5@pcnet2.pcnet.net> References: <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> <47svv6$5ao@fnnews.fnal.gov> <47vld1$iom@pcnet2.pcnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-pt21.pcnet.com X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0.7@ts1-pt21.pcnet.com Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article <47vld1$iom@pcnet2.pcnet.net> nema@pcnet.com (Richard Lubash) writes: I have been using Code Quick for about three weeks and find it much better than the dit-dah or farnsworth method. The sound alikes let you go from hearing a sound right to the letter or number as opposed going from sound-to dit-dah-to the letter. Speed increases seem much easier too. It still takes work (every day is a must if you dont want to backslide). I also recomend getting one of the shareware computer code practice aids (I use morse Trainer on my MAC) and make cassetts from the computer to play around the house and in the car for practice. Lots of Luck Richard N1VXW > >Hello all. After almost 30 years I have decided that it is time > >to get back into ham radio. I will need to learn the code again and > >could use some advice. I am considering getting some code tapes and > >am looking for opinions on how useful they are. I am looking at the > >Code Quick tapes by Wheeler Applied Research Lab of Palm Desert > >California and would appreciate comments, pro or con, from anyone > >who has experience with them. I would also like to hear of experiences > >with other brands. Other opinions would be gratefully considered. > >Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > George Stratemeier > > former WN3KOB From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!msunews!netnews.upenn.edu!netaxs.com!cassidy From: cassidy@netaxs.com (Kyle Cassidy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: code help Date: 13 Nov 1995 07:17:26 GMT Organization: Philadelphia's Complete Internet Provider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <486re6$kf5@netaxs.com> References: <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> <815946684snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix2.netaxs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : > I would also like to hear of experiences : > with other brands. Other opinions would be gratefully considered. : > Thanks in advance for any help. i went the old fashioned way and got the gordon west tapes at radio shack for about $15. they got me to 13 wpm in under a month (i did use a computer code generator to make some practice tapes up) so they must work. it was relatively painless too. kc kb2rvy -- kyle cassidy office of academic computing -- rowan college of new jersey http://www2.rowan.edu/kyle/home.html From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:49 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!hayward From: hayward@cs.uchicago.edu (Kristin Rachael Hayward) Subject: Re: code help X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gargoyle.cs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Maine References: <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:26:57 GMT Lines: 36 In article <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> georges@telerama.lm.com (george) writes: :Hello all. After almost 30 years I have decided that it is time :to get back into ham radio. I will need to learn the code again and :could use some advice. I am considering getting some code tapes and :am looking for opinions on how useful they are. I am looking at the :Code Quick tapes by Wheeler Applied Research Lab of Palm Desert :California and would appreciate comments, pro or con, from anyone :who has experience with them. I would also like to hear of experiences :with other brands. Other opinions would be gratefully considered. :Thanks in advance for any help. : : George Stratemeier : former WN3KOB : Well, I guess it is about time that I acknowledge a deep debt to Code Quick. In the early 70s I tried to master code, but I got alsolutely nowhere. I tried for nearly 3 years, and just couldn't get beyond a few characters a minute. Admittedly, I have a mild form of dyslexia, but I figured if I could earn a PhD, I could master morse code. Nope. In the late 1980s I decided to try again, and discovered Code Quick.I don't know if it is the sound-a-likes or the clever (?) pictures, but whatever it was, I got from 0-20 wpm using only Code Quick, a computer, and 6 minutes twice a day. Kristin, WX9T -- Dr. Kristin Rachael Hayward Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services University of Maine http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!spool.mu.edu!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet From: Thomas Brockdorf Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: code help Date: 14 Nov 1995 17:33:25 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 28 Message-ID: <48ajt5$h8l@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <47rght$a50@terrazzo.lm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: arthurdent.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: georges@telerama.lm.com georges@telerama.lm.com (george) wrote: >Hello all. After almost 30 years I have decided that it is time >to get back into ham radio. I will need to learn the code again and >could use some advice. I am considering getting some code tapes and >am looking for opinions on how useful they are. I am looking at the >Code Quick tapes by Wheeler Applied Research Lab of Palm Desert >California and would appreciate comments, pro or con, from anyone >who has experience with them. I would also like to hear of experiences >with other brands. Other opinions would be gratefully considered. >Thanks in advance for any help. > > George Stratemeier former WN3KOB =========================================================== George, I had a novice call (WN9LFZ) during the early 70's. I went 20 years before I got back in again. I used the Gordon West code tapes. I got my Tech-Plus in March 93, and by October 93 I had my Extra. You will be surprised how fast the code comes back to you. It's like riding a bicycle. You never forget. Good luck. 73 de Thomas AA9IS From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:51 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!world!news From: barnaby@world.std.com (Richard Barnaby) Subject: Confirming QSL's via internet Message-ID: Sender: news@world.std.com (Mr Usenet Himself) Nntp-Posting-Host: world.std.com Organization: Business Support Services X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.113 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 03:02:42 GMT Lines: 15 I just swapped QSL cards via internet with WC0V for a QSO we had the other day. Just wondering... what with rising postal costs, etc, if this method might be acceptable. It was sure fun! I used Micrographx Designer (Where I had the original artwork for my printed card), and created an overlay mask for the QSO info, exported it to a file callsign.jpg and attached it to email. Pretty simple. As I read Section V Field Checking of QSL Cards , in the DXCC rules, an Internet-confirmed card would not be disqualified. Anyone read differently? -barnaby AA1IB From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!ron From: ron@fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CQ on Repeaters. Correct? Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:50:56 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4880i0$6dl@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <46ej3b$h9h@antares.en.com> <47t9ce$ov@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <480i6t$oaa@news.cais.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1169.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1.4] Avery Russell (agross@erols.com) wrote: : > But I rarely listen to 2m anymore anyway. It's too much like : >the internet. : : And what is wrong with the internet? You are using it now aren't you? : Avery The net is much like CB. Occasional corners of friendliness, usefulness, and utility amongst what is usually an overwhelming din of noise and idiocy arriving from all points of the compass. I use it for the corner cases :-) As I do with repeaters and 2m. Regards, Ron Miller NW0U From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: hberg@uiuc.edu (Steve Hilberg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CQ on Repeaters. Correct? Date: 15 Nov 1995 23:09:23 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 27 Message-ID: <48drv3$1tg@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <46ej3b$h9h@antares.en.com> <47t9ce$ov@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <488s10$ao0@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blizzard.sws.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 In article <488s10$ao0@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com>, bobm@msn.fullfeed.com says... > >I've always thought: > >"Voice signs for voice work, CW signs for CW work" > Ditto. I've only been a ham a year and a half, but use (and overuse) of Q signals on voice (2m & 70cm in my case) drives me nuts. Shortly after my son and I received our tickets in June of '94, our family left on a cross country vacation (Illinois to California). This gave both of us, but especially my son (who was 12 at the time), a great opportunity to use my new 2m mobile and get some on-air experience. As we traveled, my son would get on the air and say "N9XDD listening, and looking for contacts." He got 'em...enough to fill several pages of a logbook. Just another reason it was a great vacation. ______________________________________________________________________ Steve Hilberg * /== hberg@uiuc.edu * * x N9XDC * "Some people are weatherwise but most are otherwise." From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!nctuccca.edu.tw!aladdin.iii.org.tw!keelung.transend.com.tw!usenet From: "Joe F. BV/N0IAT" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CT FILE NEEDED : CQWW.CTY Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:56:31 GMT Organization: Radio: BV/N0IAT in Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <48ckhf$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.72.168.127 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Hi Folks, I could use an updated CQWW.CTY file for CT software. Interested in CQWW CW contest later this month and my version of CQWW.CTY is about a year old (last years 'test, as a matter of fact). Anyone know a web site that carries an updated file or someone could send it to me in ascii format? thanks in advance for any help. Joe BV/N0IAT in Taipei TAIWAN R.O.C. ex 7J1AOF YU3/N0IAT KA0ZDH Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!chi-news.cic.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!crl12.crl.com!not-for-mail From: arthurc@crl.com (Arthur Chandler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Speed-building on Mac Date: 13 Nov 1995 21:17:17 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 58 Message-ID: <4898ot$ch1@crl12.crl.com> References: <47g7ch$7t1@netnews.upenn.edu> <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM> <4802b6$dog@gw.PacBell.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl12.crl.com I find that the trouble with the canned tapes and programs is that you memorize them very quickly -- at least in part -- and your learning slows down. By far the best method, I think, is listening in on HF to actual conversations. I realize that not everyone here has access to a rig. But if you can get to use one, the conversations: 1) are always different, and 2) remind you that there IS a real reason to learn CW: to talk with other folks. Rig listening also reminds you that reception is rarely perfect, and that sometimes you really have to strain to catch the code. Also: I find that sending CW also helps a lot. Again, if you have any HF privileges, use them with a key. If not, buy or build a practice bug and send as much as you can. Actually using the code, instead of just transcribing it, is a lot of fun. John Minger (jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com) wrote: : In article , : John Seney wrote: : >In article <47rhht$4a0@gw.PacBell.COM>, jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com : >(John Minger wrote: : >> >Send Check or Money Order - Outside USA Send $40.00 : >> >All Orders Shipped within 48 Hours! : >> > John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| john@wd1v.mv.com : >> Come on John, this is getting a little old. : >> I'd welcome the advertising here, but just not quite so : >> much and so often. Maybe you might like to add to the discussions : >> that go on here without you. : >> Just my .02 worth (is that Visa or Mastercard?) : >> -- : >> John A Minger KE6DTC : >Hi John: : >Maybe you're right. I won't post anything anymore - I'll just send EMAIL : >to the specific person that asks the typical question of "where can I : >find...." : > 73, John D. Seney john@wd1v.mv.com : [above sigs edited to shorten post] : Thanks. : I didn't mean to kill off the whole thing. I'm a Mac user myself and : always used to read these posts for Mac software. The only problem was : that I kept seeing the same posting. Maybe I'm the only one who thought : so, since I haven't yet seen any other responses in the thread. : 73, : -- : ___________________________________________________________________________ : John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author : Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: max77777@aol.com (Max77777) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Decoder for PC (RTTY, MORSE, etc.) Date: 11 Nov 1995 04:51:50 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <481rnm$d5f@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Hi , There is a program WXMAN. It's a dos program for converting weather faxes. I don't remember where it came from...probably AOL. I have yet to test it on the air but the demo sounds like what you would hear over the radio. I have also used CWAVE for decoding morse but you almost need computer generated code for it to translate with efficiency. Good luck hunting for these...I'll try to find the location too. later........ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:39:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.ACO.net!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.kfk.de!usenet From: fund@fzk.de (norbert fund) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Decoder for PC (RTTY, MORSE, etc.) - wxman.txt [1/1] Date: 13 Nov 1995 09:40:54 GMT Organization: Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe/ Germany Lines: 63 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4873r6$mie@hdimsun1.kfk.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pefpc01.kfk.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="*-*-*- Next Section -*-*-*" X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94265 rec.radio.shortwave:66022 --*-*-*- Next Section -*-*-* Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article , calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us says... > >On 8 Nov 1995, Kurt Boutin wrote: > >> Ok, a friend of mine saw a program that someone had uploaded to >> the net that would decode Morse, RTTY, etc. by connecting the line >> out from your SW (or ham, or whatever) radio to the input of your >> Soundblaster. Has anyone seen anything like this? Where? >> >I am very interested in the answer to this question, too. > >If I might be allowed to complain for a moment... >Somebody asks about a RTTY/WEFAX/CW SoundBlaster decoder every few >months. And everytime the question gets asked, somebody answers that >there is a program at SIMTEL called "WXMAN". Well, I'm here to tell you >right now that there IS NO program at SIMTEL called WXMAN. And it isn't >at Garbo. And it isn't at Funet. And Archie searches never work right >for me. (If I'm wrong about this PLEASE let me know!) > >So, can anyone out tell us where WXMAN is? If not, does anyone know of a >good program for decoding RTTY, FAX, or CW using simply a radio and a >SoundBlaster sound card? Before you answer, please... > >1. Make sure the program you suggest is actually at the FTP site that you >say it is at. > >2. Please give the name of the archive file at the FTP site, and the >directories it can be found in. > >Sorry to sound so bitchy, but I really want to find one of these programs. 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Date: 11 Nov 1995 12:12:14 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 16 Message-ID: <4823uu$3hf@cc.iu.net> References: Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-0.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In , cybertek@top.monad.net writes: >Disney World Repeater PL ? depends. some do, some don't (forget whether the Kissimmee/O'do area is on 103.5 or 107 something..)...UHF systems are PL'ed for sure. however - if you've never been to the parks before and have the intent to just go see everything, i'd tend to recommend that you leave the radios at the hotel or behind...after a few hours that extra baggage starts to be heavy and you don't have to worry about losing it someplace along the way... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!lehi.kuentos.guam.net!saba.kuentos.guam.net!rkenner From: rkenner@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Rick H. Kennerly) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Disney World Repeater PL ? Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:03:10 GMT Organization: Kuentos Communications Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48332e$cgb@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <4823uu$3hf@cc.iu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: saba.kuentos.guam.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I enjoyed several late night chats on the WDW repeater, mostly park employees. We were staying in the Wilderness trailers (a nice enough experience, but I'll be back on the monorail line next time) and even had some of the roadwarriors over in the airstream trailer park stop by. However, there is no need for a n HT in the parks and, as the previous poster mentioned, it just weighs you down. Go & enjoy the magic. Rick - NH2F From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:01 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mv!usenet From: jbl@levin.mv.com Subject: Re: Do it for the log. Message-ID: <30a55668.471157580@192.80.84.4> Organization: At home. Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 02:23:27 GMT References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825d3$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.140 Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy,alt.flame,misc.test X-Nntp-Posting-Host: levin.mv.com Lines: 22 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17049 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94184 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31801 In <4825d3$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET>, Burt Fisher > wrote: [16 lines or so of irrelevant header snipped -- I think he beats out ARRL bulletins here] |What others say: Here follows a four-month old reprint of someone's posting and his response. He must really be getting desparate for material. And I would really love to know why he felt he had to post it to so many groups. Geez, I think he's gone off the deep end (except I thought he had already). I mean, rec.roller-coaster? rec.skiing? Newsgroups trimmed. |from unix.ccsnet.com by ccsnet.com with smtp |Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 15:21:00 EDT |From: Joe Esposito |Subject: Duh! Says it all. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.rad Subject: Re: Do it for the log. Date: 12 Nov 1995 11:35:52 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: <484m6o$21a@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825d3$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: bmicales@facstaff.wisc.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52037 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4590 rec.pyrotechnics:37614 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17060 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12579 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21356 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11530 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94201 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31813 rec.radio.amateur.space:5699 bmicales@facstaff.wisc.edu (Bruce Micales) wrote: >In the first instance, I am clearly stating as to why I want your name..I do >keep a log of my contacts. Also this information can be used for sending QSL >cards. All of this is quickly said by asking for your name for the log. >However, I guess I could say "I would like to know your name because I am a >nice guy,, I am keeping a log, and I might send you a QSL card". Hmmmm, seems >a bit to much. You prove my point that hams could give a damn about YOU they want your name for the LOG so they can get an impersonal QSL card. Frequently I hear hams on repeaters ask for a name FOR THE LOG, and not even a log for hams there. Explain? >Hams are very personable otherwise you would not have FM voice, AM voice, SSB >voice, or even ATV. >Bruce Micales Be serious. On voice what PERSONAL things do they say? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!ci-pioneer!panda!org!org!*domain!*site!*user!kirkman!don!don.kirkman From: Don.Kirkman@Don.Kirkman@*user@*site.*domain.org.org (Don Kirkman) Date: 12 Nov 95 16:06:00 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Do it for the log. Message-ID: Organization: Fidonet: PandA's Den BBS Usenet: SATINS/Net330 uucp gateway * PandA's Den BBS *CR Lines: 33 From: donk@a.crl.com (Don Kirkman) Subject: Re: Do it for the log. Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Burt Fisher wrote: >To: Multiple recipients of list HAM-L And countless others, it turns out :-) >How many times have you heards folks say that they wanted the other >guy's name, QTH, etc. for the log? My log couldn't care less about >that information. Whenever I ask, it's because I want to know. Hey, guys, why was this posted in puzzles, running, skiing, and half a dozen other groups? Ham related I can understand, but PLEASE look at the cross-posted groups! BTW, I picked this up in rec.running, but I always wanted the name also--and of course I wrote it IN the log (where else, back in the old pre-computer days?) 73. N6IM Don Kirkman donk@a.crl.com Cerritos, CA If I had a life I'd be having a mid-life crisis -- |Fidonet: Don Kirkman 1:330/317 |Internet: Don.Kirkman@Don.Kirkman@*user@*site.*domain.org.org | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly their own. | PandA's Den BBS FidoNet < > internet gateway - email info@panda.org From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news3.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: kodis@access1.digex.net (John Kodis) Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Date: 11 Nov 1995 11:05:08 -0500 Organization: Organization? Surely you jest! Lines: 18 Message-ID: <482hjk$rab@access1.digex.net> References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> <1995Nov11.063852.23218@rti.rti.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110795 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94159 In article <1995Nov11.063852.23218@rti.rti.org>, Joe Simpson wrote: >Well, it was at one time initialized correctly, and for several months >has been giving "correct" (i.e., believable) readings. I suppose it >could have lost its initialization data. To speed up initial satellite acquisition, many GPS units maintain the time and last known position when turned off. If you shut the unit off, moved it a few hundred miles, and then turned it back on, I can envision it getting confused in such a way that the types of positioning error you encountered could occur. It doesn't seem real likely, but I guess it could happen. I second the reinitialization idea. It might work, and it's faster than a trip to the factory. -- John Kodis. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.dacom.co.kr!simtel!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!ron From: ron@fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) Newsgroups: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THAT GPS RECEIVER Followup-To: rec.backcountry,rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 13 Nov 1995 16:17:53 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 32 Message-ID: <487r3h$16s@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <1995Nov7.053534.24984@rti.rti.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1169.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1.4] Xref: news.epix.net rec.backcountry:110875 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94272 Joe Simpson (jbs@rti.org) wrote: : This weekend I had a sobering experience with my (relatively new) : Magellan Trailblazer XL. Using map and compass, I hiked to a known : location, a hilltop about a quarter mile from my camp, elevation just : under 900 feet. At the top of the hill, I got out the GPS and : prepared to store the hilltop location as a waypoint. After locking : onto 5 satellites, the unit proceeded to tell me authoritatively that : I was about 7 km southwest of my actual location, and that I was : around 15,000 feet above sea level to boot! I've seen this on a friend's GPS40. It was reading 15,000' altitude and speed and heading that had no relationship to present or past and it indicated very strong SV strength when inside the car with a limited view of the sky. Clearly it was FUBAR. Friend was going to do a master clear on it and see if that helped. (Don't know result yet.) Previous symptom would be auto-shutdown of the unit as if it lost battery power. : So, in short, take that GPS unit with you, but don't forget the : compass and map, and the skill to use them. : -joe Yup. Ron Miller Tool User From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: SRDJAN@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (srdjan dvornik) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: e.mekic@zamir-sa.ztn.apc.org:Info-Ha Date: 13 Nov 95 17:35:16 GMT Organization: ZaMir Transnational Net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <50.61226@zamir-zg.ztn.apc.org> References: <199511130222.SAA03429@mail.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu your messages to e.mekic@zamir-sa.ztn.apc.org could not be delivered because they were too big. the size limit of our network is 104.2 kb sysop From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: SRDJAN@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (srdjan dvornik) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: e.mekic@zamir-sa.ztn.apc.org:Info-Ha Date: 13 Nov 95 06:32:33 GMT Organization: ZaMir Transnational Net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <26.61189@zamir-zg.ztn.apc.org> References: <199511130219.SAA02879@mail.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu message too long (>104.2 kb), cannot be delivered sysop From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zynet.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!news.ttu.edu!medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu!cortex!william From: william@cortex (William Biggs) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: EARTALK Date: 11 Nov 1995 23:33:22 GMT Organization: Texas Tech University HSC Amarillo Lines: 33 Message-ID: <483bs2$hi@medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu> References: <47jdqa$cbm@oxy.rust.net> <60.47222.4727.0N1FCFFD@canrem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Bill Hindin (bildin@news.dorsai.org) wrote: : Chris Smart (chris.smart@canrem.com) wrote: : : >that also is a microphone? : : >Barry KB6CV : : Br> I've had one of those. They work great and also have a good audio : : Br> quaility in the mic. If you have a use for one I would recomend it. : : Br> I bought mine used and don't know where a new one could be obtained. : : I'm not sure where to get one either, but wouldn't you get a lot of : : strange looks walking down the street, appearing to be talking to nobody? : : Depending on your neighborhood, I guess this could be seen as normal : : behavior, but I sure wouldn't do it. I have one that I bought from a manufacturer in New England. They have ads in QST and CQ. It was about $39. Quality of audio both ways was acceptable, but my ear canal must be just a little smaller than the average person, as I could never get the thing to stay in my ear. It uses one of those earbuds like the Nintendo Game Boy. The PTT assembly can clip to your belt. I ended up buying a Yaesu lapel mike that at least would stay attached to my clothing. A great item for the ski slopes , BTW ! -- William C. Biggs , MD KC5JIF Howdy from the High Plains of Texas 1900 South Coulter Drive Amarillo, TX 79106 From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: victorm@cts.com (Victor Morange) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FAQ for "Q" codes? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:14:34 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <48bt03$m79@news2.cts.com> References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: victorm.cts.com ve3trj@terraport.net (Bryan Weaver) wrote: >Does anyone know of a FAQ giving all the CW "Q" sigs? Or do you have a list >you could email to me? Thanks & 73. This is a question on a US tech or novice test, but a list can be found in most license manual or other amateur radio handbooks or operating manuals Victor Morange KO6ZK victorm@cts.com KO6ZK@W6NWG.CA.US.NOAM (Packet) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!oronet!news From: rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FAQ for "Q" codes? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:57:18 GMT Organization: RST Engineering Lines: 27 Message-ID: <48d2lb$2nn@hg.oro.net> References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rst-engr.oro.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Gary Watts wrote: >You see I have to compile and print a list to decipher what the >REAL Ham Radio Operators are talking about while they >are on FM !!!! Gary -- Wouldn't it be a gas to see what humorous definitions we could come up with for the Q-sigs? I'll start it off: QLF -- Now try sending code with your Left Foot. Jim Jim Weir VP Engineering | "We seem to be standing on RST Engineering | the foreskin of technology." Grass Valley CA 95945 | (Gen Chuck Yeager) voice/fax 916/272-1432 | rst-engr@oro.net AR Adv WB6BHI CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!rawiley From: rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) Newsgroups: alt.fan.dune,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Date: 12 Nov 95 04:59:23 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <47ojlr$p9f@s02.pavilion.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.weeg.uiowa.edu Xref: news.epix.net alt.fan.dune:6489 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94196 iliffe@pavilion.co.uk (Richard Iliffe) writes: >In article , vac@indirect.com(Anne Schoofs) says: >> >> >>Seriously, this is a chance of a lifetime. I want all you naughty boys >>to contact me at once. Do not delay. Location is unimportant. >> >>Let me know how you've been naughty and what type of corrective >>punishment you deem appropriate. It's time we clean up the net. >> >>Anne Transatlantic 900 numbers? What next? NE0R From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.erinet.com!ragnarok.oar.net!malgudi.oar.net!multiverse!rhh From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Form 610 on line? Date: 12 Nov 1995 14:36:59 GMT Organization: Multiverse Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4850qb$svp@sauron.multiverse.com> References: <47mdfl$4tq@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.54.52.5 X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #4 (NOV) johnmb@nando.net writes: >Is there a location on the net that one can download a form 610? >I need to submit a change of address and have no idea where to >get a form in my new location. ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/arrl/qst-binaries Four files, one for each page. These are digitized FAX sheets. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com KD4VCR/AA From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:14 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FS KNWD TM241A Sony SW55 From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47420.4727.0N1FDE38@canrem.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:23:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 46 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- F O R E S A L E 1. Kenwood TM241A 2m mobile, 5/10/50 watts, memory expansion unit installed - less than one year old, with manual, original box, mobile mounting bracket, etc. LIKE NEW! Reason for selling: I'm moving to 70 CM. These go for about $500.00 Canadian; make me an offer. I'm looking for somewhere around $100.00 (Canadian) less then the new price, as this radio is in great shape and hardly used. 2. Sony SW55: Portable Shortwave Receiver *Mint condition!* - 125 memories - 150 khz to 30 mhz continuous; plus FM broadcast band - am/lsb/usb narrow/wide filter, extremely sensative! Reason for selling: As a blind person I find this radio unnecessarily difficult to operate, and want to move to a 2010. - comes with carrying case, all accessories, manuals, etc. I'd like $355.00 Canadian for this *firm*; also barely used. I would provide prices in US currency, but I don't have a calculator handy. If you're interested in either of these, let me know and I'll work out the US prices. Chris. (Internet: chris.smart@canrem.com, Fido: 1:229/15, Phone (voice): (519)756-9389) .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMKT3DNZU0fzBPqHhAQFRiAP+PgXKE3ebL4g7rDE47aBc/VuXRQiBXJXa soaY8LN8r571yAUj/RiB0A+707OObdRANHO0bFvBuhsUqpGVFX4VqwgjozNZ0GTn wfMpI9qv65sFPs4bsg9830coWXwiY4053I+WzQEASxZ/DhtNME8PrfFBFqSZRQkd CgCItLs1eRg= =i+eK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!rohan!bruck From: bruck@rohan.sdsu.edu (bruck) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ham classes in San Diego? Date: 10 Nov 1995 03:08:41 GMT Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <47ufnp$2mc@gondor.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.191.143.100 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] does anyone know of any classes offered in the San Diego Area that help you get you tech or novice ticket. If there are such creatures let me know. If not Are there any other ways to get help learning the info other than by learning the entire question pool? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!usc!newshub.cts.com!crash!dfrandin From: dfrandin@crash.cts.com (Dave Frandin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hamming in Las Vegas? Date: 15 Nov 1995 01:45:47 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Lines: 37 Message-ID: <48bgob$ktm@news2.cts.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crash-i2.cts.com Greg Dolkas (greg@core.rose.hp.com) wrote: : Well, folks, : Here I am in Las Vegas attending the largest (?) geek show on the planet, : and not only don't I hear any repeater activity, I couldn't even bring up : any of the local repeater. Except one, probably barely, and only from the : 26th floor of a hotel. : Is the ham community that dead in LV, or is all the QRM generated from all that : prototype equipment wiping out any chance of reliable communication? : Repeaters tried: : 145.190- : 145.300- : 146.700- : 147.090+ (got this one to ID once) : Also scanned 440 band; nothing. : None are listed with a PL. Did that change? : Greg. KO6TH/7 You missed the main open 2m box in Las Vegas.. 146.880 -600 (it uses a PL tone, but I forget which one..not a problem tho, since all you have to do is listen until it id's and it will tell you the pl it needs) .. I don't think you'd be saying "there's no activity" if you'd checked .88 .. It's on one of the highest mtn's around (8100ft) and covers all of Souther NV and a good part of Southeastern Calif (plus part of Northern AZ).. The other boxes you mentioned are relatively lo-level and not a lot of use.... 73 Dave WA6QNW Will be up there tommorrow night myself....... From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hams love this. Date: 12 Nov 1995 23:03:15 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <486g23$ln@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8029112332502@ccsnet.com> <47a96i$a3r@alterdial.UU.NET> <48255n$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <48255n$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET>, Burt Fisher wrote: >jherman@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) wrote: > >>Don't forget to eat some prunes, Burt. > >Prunes---the main food of todays hams. Prune Juice. "A warrior's drink" -- Worf. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim English) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hams that have had sex. Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 01:18:37 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 28 Message-ID: <482lu5$3at@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <47efnk$6nt@shiva.usa.net> <47fi1i$r28@alterdial.UU.NET> <47j4gp$f6t@allinux2.alliance.net> <47jc6i$ji7@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: an1.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Burt Fisher wrote: >wyantt@floating.ip.com wrote: >>Wait, I'm a ham and I still enjoy having sex with my wife... >> >>Maybe just the older hams don't want sex... >> >>Tom Wyant - KB8UFJ >You are a ham AND have (and even enjoy) sex? >That is rare indeed. >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | >#======================================================================# Hey wait a minute, I'm a ham and still want sex... just not with my wife ! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!clark.net!j38 From: "Tony Stalls (K4KYO)" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Help Set up Traditional Elmering Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:45:50 -0500 Organization: Clark Internet Services, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94356 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31877 Our QCWA chapter is contemplating a traditional training program for prospective hams. By "traditional" I mean that we want to help students pass amateur examinations by learning the subject matter rather than just drilling them on correct choices from the question pool. If you have any experiences, lesson plans, or other information that might be helpful, I would appreciate your passing it along. Thanks & 73, Tony Stalls, K4KYO J38@clark.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!bt!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!sparky!nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us!usenet From: mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help with NLA mounts Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:56:32 GMT Organization: AG0N's Radio Ranch Lines: 28 Message-ID: <48bdqv$81p@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> References: <48ahnl$ldg@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.206.239.250 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 On 14 Nov 1995 16:56:21 GMT, curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with NLA mounts. I am putting one >in in a week or so(with a little help from friends) and need to buy the >thing. Larson seem to make NLA mounts that are advertized as "snap in". Is >this the antenna snapping in? I want to have a permanent antenna on the >roof all coax hidden in the headliner and such. I realize that NLA mounts >only require a 3/8" hole instead of the larger hole for NMO. Is this "snap >in" what I want? Thanks in advance I've used NLA mounts since the 60s. Like others, they work well when installed properly. However, Larsen claims to be getting out of the NLA business. I have no idea, and its very disappointing. The mount is what snaps into the 3/8" hole. The antenna screws onto the mount. I know of some dealers who have decided to boycott Larsen because of their decision. You might check around and see who else makes an NLA antenna. I think Maxrad does, and is what some are switching to. It's too bad, because Larsen is the best antenna around, IMHO. :) _____ _____ _____ ___ _____ | __|___ ___ _ _ ___ | _ | __| | | | | | | .'| _| | | |___| | | | | | | | | | |_____|__,|_| |_ | |__|__|_____|___|_|___| |___| mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:21 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!herbr From: herbr@netcom.com (Herb Rosenberg) Subject: Help with Shack Grounding techniques? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:14:40 GMT Lines: 3 Sender: herbr@netcom4.netcom.com -- herbr@netcom.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!dlpeter From: dlpeter@unixg.ubc.ca (Dennis Peter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HELP: I need a frequency jammer! Date: 15 Nov 1995 08:28:57 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48c8c9$hhq@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: netinfo.ubc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I need a frequency jammer! Is there a site on the WWW with a circuit cookbook with this information? My jammer must block frequencies between 40 and 45 MHz. It can be low powered so it will affect those frequencies within a 10 meter radius. If you have the design for such a device, please post it, or email it to me. Thanks! Den --- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!news From: Keith Diehl Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to fix intermod? Date: 15 Nov 1995 19:45:51 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48dg1f$q0v@news.xmission.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slc53.xmission.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) writes: > Jeff Wigal writes: > > >When I travel through some areas of Seattle, my radio is bombarded with > >intermod interference (at least that's what I think it is)... > >>>> Another method of reducing RX intermod is to attenuate the received signal. IM products will be reduced by the actual attenuator value multiplied by the IM product order. That is, a 6 dB pad will reduce a third order IM product by 18 dB. (Refer to Bell Lab's "Intermodualtion Interference in Radio Systems" for more info) Power attenuators that can simply be placed between the transceiver and the antenna can be purchased fairly inexpencively from Bird, Trilithic, and others. (Experiment with variable attenuator, then buy a useful value rated to handle your TX power.) Keith Diehl -- Salt Lake City http://www.xmission.com/~kdiehl From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!pinetree From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to restore rusty sheetmetal cases? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 13:57:23 GMT Organization: Microserve Information Systems (800)-380-INET Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48e5us$qpd@crash.microserve.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: pinetree.microserve.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article , >Perhaps some of you out there are experienced at sheetmetal repair... >What should I do to end up with a "like-new" finish? I have the same problem with a piece of gear that I stored in my basement for five years. The only solution I know of is to strip it and then either have it sandblasted (to remove the rust) or use naval jelly and sandpaper. Finally, fill the pits and imperfections with Bondo, sand it smooth, and have it sprayed. Just don't ask me how to Bondo a perforated cabinet. I haven't gotten that far yet. :) 73, Jack WB3U From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov!ames!news.tulane.edu!darwin.sura.net!jabba.ess.harris.com!news.ess.harris.com!su102w.ess.harris.com!harris.pander01 From: harris.pander01@ic1d.harris.com (Paul Anderson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: How to restore rusty sheetmetal cases? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 15:04:20 Organization: Harris Corporation, GCSD Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panderson2.ess.harris.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev Final Beta #6] I have an old piece of radio gear that I'd like to restore. The insides of the unit are no big deal to fix. The main problem is that the panels of the steel case have a lot of surface rust, from 15 years of storage in a coastal Florida garage. When I buff out the rust, I expect to have a pitted surface. Perhaps some of you out there are experienced at sheetmetal repair... What should I do to end up with a "like-new" finish? *********************************************************** *** Paul Anderson *** *** E-mail: pander01@harris.com *** *** Amateur Packet: AB4VA @ KD4WLE.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NA *** *********************************************************** From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: s9510088@minyos.xx.rmit.EDU.AU (Kanok Chantrasmi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HS8SEA Date: 12 Nov 95 09:54:14 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 57 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 07:46:47 +1100 (EST) From: hs1gos@md2.md.chula.ac.th HS8SEA CQ zone 26, IOTA AS#101 This Callsign will appeared during SEANET Convention 1995. SEANET is South East Asia Net, Which meet nightly at 14.320 MHz +/- at 1200z This year, We plan to setup both station to operated on Satellite and HF band during SEANET convention at Ko Samui, THAILAND. Period: 17-19 November 1995 Calls : HS8SEA Bands : Especially on Lowband (3.5 MHz) and HF : Satellite AO-10, AO-13, All RS satellite, MODE B ,**Will try to QSY MODE S** Mode : CW, SSB, RTTY, PACKET, AMTOR, ... QTH : Ko Samui : Lat 9.5 N. : Long 100.0 E. QSL : Will be announced when on the air. Sponsors : Radio Amateur Society of Thailand Under the Royal Partronage of His Majesty the King. (HS0AC, HS50A) : Radio Amateur Society of Suratthani (HS8AS) **This station is not a DXpedition Station. It is operated by all of SEANET participants. So please be patient.*** HI HI Please help us to distribute this message over another news providers. 73's Chawalit, HS1GOS Internet : hs1gos@amsat.org -or- chawalit@mozart.inet.co.th FAX during SEANET : + 66 77 424 019 ATT:Chamlong (HS1AAM) ******************************************************************* Chawalit Ratsameenil, HS1GOS Tel: +66 2 892 0741 FAX: +66 2 892 0733 Mailing Address: P.O. Box 66 Bangkhunthian Bangkok 10150 THAILAND %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!usc!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: 12 Nov 1995 03:39:18 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <47td9r$lkv@daily-planet.execpc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17064 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21358 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94204 uk.radio.amateur:9094 In article <47td9r$lkv@daily-planet.execpc.com>, Thomas Brockdorf wrote: >Don't be worried about buying the 706. It is an excellent radio! >I got mine last week, and I love it. After the xmit open mod, will it transmit on 47 MHz? A Red-Cross friend of mine wants to know. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: 14 Nov 1995 16:00:17 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48aeeh$1n21@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <47td9r$lkv@daily-planet.execpc.com> <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17111 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21422 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94300 uk.radio.amateur:9148 In article <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com>, Cecil A. Moore~ wrote: >After the xmit open mod, will it transmit on 47 MHz? A Red-Cross >friend of mine wants to know. Mike, N5AQM, answered the question for me. FYI, above 54 MHz, the IC706 will not transmit on anything except 144-148 MHz. It will transmit on any frequency below 54 MHz. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 09:19:04 -0500 Organization: Mot RNSG - Private Data Lines: 34 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <47td9r$lkv@daily-planet.execpc.com> <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com> <48aeeh$1n21@chnews.ch.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17130 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21451 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94355 uk.radio.amateur:9169 In article <48aeeh$1n21@chnews.ch.intel.com>, cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) wrote: > In article <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com>, > Cecil A. Moore~ wrote: > > >After the xmit open mod, will it transmit on 47 MHz? A Red-Cross > >friend of mine wants to know. > > Mike, N5AQM, answered the question for me. FYI, above 54 MHz, the IC706 will > not transmit on anything except 144-148 MHz. It will transmit on any frequency > below 54 MHz. > > 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) Cecil, you might want to pass along a reminder to your co-worker: The national headquarters Communications Group of the American National Red Cross strictly enforces the ANRC policy of compliance with the FCC rules; this includes Type Acceptance of all radio equipment used on ANRC frequencies. "483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com" is seriously jeopardizing his ANRC status as either volunteer or professional staff. At the same time he puts at risk both the ANRC local chapter radio license and his own amateur license. The IC706 does NOT meet the FCC's technical requirements and is not permitted by ANRC. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola RNSG Pvt Data < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!news-adm From: Warren Elly Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM IC-575a Date: 14 Nov 1995 14:25:09 GMT Organization: CyberGate Lines: 8 Message-ID: <48a8s5$1q4u@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tpafl2-28.gate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: Sale Looking for offers on my MINT IC-575a 10watt 25-60mhz allmode transceiver. Earlier unit w/ passband tuning on front panel, 250hz cw filter, 115v ac / 12v dc built in. Service and Owners manuals. Accessory cables for footswitch & linear amp. Asking $1500. Let's email. 73, Warren Elly Tampa,FL elly@gate.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!news-adm From: Warren Elly Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM IC-575a Date: 14 Nov 1995 14:26:12 GMT Organization: CyberGate Lines: 8 Message-ID: <48a8u4$1q4u@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tpafl2-28.gate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: All Looking for offers on my MINT IC-575a 10watt 25-60mhz allmode transceiver. Earlier unit w/ passband tuning on front panel, 250hz cw filter, 115v ac / 12v dc built in. Service and Owners manuals. Accessory cables for footswitch & linear amp. Asking $1500. Let's email. 73, Warren Elly Tampa,FL elly@gate.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!news-adm From: Warren Elly Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM IC-575a Date: 14 Nov 1995 14:26:48 GMT Organization: CyberGate Lines: 8 Message-ID: <48a8v8$1q4u@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tpafl2-28.gate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: rec.radio.amatuer.misc Looking for offers on my MINT IC-575a 10watt 25-60mhz allmode transceiver. Earlier unit w/ passband tuning on front panel, 250hz cw filter, 115v ac / 12v dc built in. Service and Owners manuals. Accessory cables for footswitch & linear amp. Asking $1500. Let's email. 73, Warren Elly Tampa,FL elly@gate.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!news-adm From: Warren Elly Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM IC-575a Date: 14 Nov 1995 14:28:06 GMT Organization: CyberGate Lines: 8 Message-ID: <48a91m$1q4u@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tpafl2-28.gate.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) Looking for offers on my MINT IC-575a 10watt 25-60mhz allmode transceiver. Earlier unit w/ passband tuning on front panel, 250hz cw filter, 115v ac / 12v dc built in. Service and Owners manuals. Accessory cables for footswitch & linear amp. Asking $1500. Let's email. 73, Warren Elly Tampa,FL elly@gate.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet From: jptaylor@execpc.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: International Reply Coupons Date: 11 Nov 1995 22:06:00 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4836o8$jke@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <47vk75$11rn@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: shrubbery.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: all John... I just bought 36 IRCs two weeks ago. They were valued at $1.05 ea. 73, Jim Taylor jptaylor@execpc,com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.us.world.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!alpha1.csd.uwm.edu!herb From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Is All-Mode worth it? Date: 12 Nov 1995 04:22:06 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Lines: 7 Message-ID: <483spe$3lv@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.169.1 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Is it worth the extra $ for a 2/440 all mode rig? Nate, KB9LSX From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:35 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!stallion.jsums.edu!gatech2!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Is All-Mode worth it? Message-ID: <1995Nov12.060108.24225@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <483spe$3lv@uwm.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 06:01:08 GMT Lines: 12 In article <483spe$3lv@uwm.edu> herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) writes: >Is it worth the extra $ for a 2/440 all mode rig? No, but if you want to work SSB you've got to pay it anyway. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.rain.org!leigh From: leigh@rain.org (Leigh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is All-Mode worth it? Date: 13 Nov 1995 01:51:54 GMT Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4868bq$fv9@news.rain.org> References: <483spe$3lv@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: leigh@coyote.rain.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : Is it worth the extra $ for a 2/440 all mode rig? While I would not put such an expensive rig in my car, I've had a lot of use out of my own VHF all-mode gear. Last summer I was lucky enough to catch a rare 2 meter sporadic-e opening, and I was able to work Colorado and New Mexico from my California QTH, on 144.200, using 25 watts of SSB and CW. Such openings on 2 meter FM are even much rarer. --Leigh/KM6JE. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!moritz From: moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is All-Mode worth it? Date: 13 Nov 1995 11:07:54 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4878ua$1dns@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <483spe$3lv@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de >Is it worth the extra $ for a 2/440 all mode rig? Well, Is amateur radio worth it? Anyway, my personal view is that an all mode rig is not worth the extra cost, just get a ssb/cw rig or transverter for serious VHF/UHF work. Other mileage may vary. 73, Moritz DL5UH From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!s130.phxslip4.indirect.com!tracker From: tracker@indirect.com (Mark Saunders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Kenwood list server?? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 08:21:20 UNDEFINED Organization: Amateur Radio Station KJ7BS Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: s130.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #1] Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94158 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21329 Does anyone know of a list server that has Kenwood related stuff on it? How about somewhere I can go to find a list of list servers? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:38 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood TM241A SOLD From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!badger.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!van-bc!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.47457.4727.0N1FE0AA@canrem.com> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 11:24:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 9 The Kenwood is sold, but the Sony SW55 Shortwave receiver is still for sale. .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!castle.nando.net!news From: wshort@nando.net (Walt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood TS-440 Computer Interface Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 00:23:10 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48e13c$5v6@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail1318.nando.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Greetings, Just bought a Kenwood TS-440... No Manual. I am interested in using it with the computer interface. Does anyone have info on what IC's are required inside the unit? Does anyone have a manual I can buy?? Thanks, 73 Walt email = wshort@nando.net From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!world!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!news.mitre.org!user From: cookson@linus.mitre.org (Dean Cookson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: License burnt - where to get replacement ??? Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:42:07 GMT Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Mass. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <48801f$m7o@reuters2.mitre.org> References: <47kdu9$q63@wavefront.wavefront.com> <47o3vb$6gb@canyon.sr.hp.com> Reply-To: dcookson@mitre.org NNTP-Posting-Host: geeky.mitre.org In article <47o3vb$6gb@canyon.sr.hp.com>, John Mullan wrote: >Did your wallet survive, and did you put a copy of your license in your wallet? >If so, make a copy and send it with a 610 requesting a replacement. If you >don't have a copy, give a call to the nearest FCC office and ask their advice. > You folks HAVE taken the novice exam, right? You must have, at some point, read the part about sending the FCC a letter explaining what happened to the license being all you need to do for a replacement. -- | Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / +1 617 271-2714| DoD #207 AMA #573534 | | The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730 |Kot NML,B,KotLD2 / DW 2| | "I'm going to just stick my face in the bowl and |'92 VFR750F/'94 Jeep YJ| | suck." --Ms. Margo / Disclaimer? What disclaimer? | DoDHS #1 | From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.accessone.com!news From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Live Reports From Comdex available at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm Date: 11 Nov 1995 22:25:01 GMT Organization: Virtual Publishing Co. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4837rt$hm@news.accessone.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vbook.accessone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31804 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94186 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12572 I'm headed off to Comdex, the huge computer trade show and exposition in Las Vegas NV (Nov 13-Nov 18). I'll be there on behalf of my employer so they get to direct my time for the most part - but given some free time, I'll post some online reports of any neat technology that I run across. I'm hopeful to see some wireless data type systems being demo'd. Anyway, you'll find the reports (*If* I can get online access and everything works out as hoped) at our free Ham Radio Online virtual magazine. Take a look at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm (yep, missing the "l" for what are now obscure reasons). Thanks and enjoy, 73, Ed, KF7VY From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: 100260.3353@compuserve.com (Gary, DJ0MEQ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: logging software Date: 12 Nov 1995 19:19:23 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 17 Message-ID: <485hbr$rhp@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd45-129.compuserve.com X-Newsreader: OUI 1.0.1 >> Would like to hear recs for the best shareware and commercial programs under dos as well as windows. I'm more interested in a regular log (with awards ability) than contest logs. << Dear OM David, I'm sold on Logic4. Their support is great and their product is superb. Their award tracking is especially good and can be customized for any award you Although it will work with 4MB RAM, 8 or 12 is better. With 4 MB RAM, it is was very slow for me. Check out their WWW page: http://www.hosenose.com/ 73 de Gary, DJ0MEQ in Hamburg From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!news.structured.net!usenet From: botkin@jorsm.com (Larry Botkin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: logging software Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:12:48 GMT Organization: tkin@jorsm.com Lines: 31 Message-ID: <48denf$80q@news.structured.net> References: <485hbr$rhp@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1s8.jorsm.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 100260.3353@compuserve.com (Gary, DJ0MEQ) wrote: >>> Would like to hear recs for the best >shareware and commercial programs under dos as well as >windows. I'm more interested in a regular log (with >awards ability) than contest logs. << > >Dear OM David, > >I'm sold on Logic4. Their support is great and their product is superb. Their award tracking is especially good and can be customized for any award you > >Although it will work with 4MB RAM, 8 or 12 is better. With 4 MB RAM, it is was very slow for me. > >Check out their WWW page: > > http://www.hosenose.com/ > >73 de Gary, DJ0MEQ in Hamburg > Gary; I looked at the www page you cited and could not find any reference to Log4. Please clarify the web page for me. I have been looking for a good logging program dor what seems like forever. I was beginning to think I was too picky. thanks Larry NV9D botkin@jorsm.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwwi.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!stat!david Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Message-ID: <488bg7$ef1@globe.indirect.com> From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Subject: Marconi's daughter, Princess Elettra Interview! Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:56:49 GMT Approved: rec-radio-info@stat.com Organization: Ham Radio & More Show Sender: news Lines: 30 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94337 rec.radio.info:10386 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Subject: Marconi's daughter, Princess Elettra Interview! Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 20:56:49 GMT Organization: Ham Radio & More Show Message-ID: <488bg7$ef1@globe.indirect.com> Princess Elettra Marconi will be the special guest this Sunday, 11-19-95, on the nationally syndicated Ham Radio & More Show. Don't miss this special show where Princess Elettra tells what her dad was really like, what is was like growing up with him, and whatever else you want to ask. The toll free listener call-in number is 1-800-298-8255. The show airs live on over 60 stations nationwide on the Talk America Radio Network, also available via satellite, on tape delayed on WWCR shortwave. 73, Len, KB7LPW Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@n7mrp.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on 7.435. Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio. Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!indirect From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Marconi's daughter, Princess Elettra Interviewed! Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 21:04:40 GMT Organization: Ham Radio & More Show Lines: 23 Message-ID: <488buu$ef1@globe.indirect.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s145.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Princess Elettra Marconi, daughter of the pioneer, will be the special guest this Sunday, 11-29-95, on the nationally syndicated, Ham Radio & More Show. Listen to find out what her father was really like, other members of the family, what it was like growing up in the family of a pioneer, and whatever other questions the listeners call in to ask. The toll free call-in number is 1-800-298-8255. The show airs live at 6:00pm ET. See sig below for additional info. 73, Len Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@n7mrp.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on 7.435. Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio. Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!netaxs.com!cassidy From: cassidy@netaxs.com (Kyle Cassidy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Methods of Execution Date: 13 Nov 1995 07:10:04 GMT Organization: Philadelphia's Complete Internet Provider Lines: 23 Message-ID: <486r0c$kf5@netaxs.com> References: <47e4jl$498@popcorn.hamburg.pop.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: unix2.netaxs.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Peter Lemken (plemken@mail.hb.provi.de) wrote: : Al Gerheim, N4QN, spewed: : >> condemned is strapped to a wooden chair, electrodes are attached, and : >> a shock of 30,000 watts is applied. The prisoner is literally cooked : ^^^^^ yes, it's the ever-popular 'death by sterio'. although it's tricky, i was once at an Iron Maiden concert that boasted 175,000 watts of power and i survived. i was, however, consigned to a seat near the back. i suppose many up front were probably killed. kb2rvy (ob-radio anybody have an idea what one should pay for a helicrafters S118 reciever?) -- kyle cassidy office of academic computing -- rowan college of new jersey http://www2.rowan.edu/kyle/home.html From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!thales.nmia.com!plato.nmia.com!roberts From: roberts@plato.nmia.com (Robert Smathers) Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.dbs,rec.video.satellite.europe,rec.video.satellite.misc,rec.video.satellite.tvro,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Microsat 150 - was: Re: INTERESTING NEW WWW PAGE Date: 12 Nov 1995 19:19:45 GMT Organization: NMIA Lines: 17 Message-ID: <485hch$4pt@thales.nmia.com> References: <47s8og$3ul@grid.direct.ca> <484nh8$9t5@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plato.nmia.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.video.satellite.dbs:18228 rec.video.satellite.europe:3822 rec.video.satellite.misc:3300 rec.video.satellite.tvro:18573 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94220 Ed Sims wrote: >> >Has anyone had hands-on experience with the Microsat 150? yep! I own one! My review is still a slow work in progress, but I'll answer questions here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Robert Smathers "Keeper of THE `bible'" (roberts@nmia.com) Albuquerque, NM Robert's Satellite TV/Baseball page: http://www.nmia.com/~roberts/ Sky-Scanner Extraordinaire! Proud owner, 2 of (by far!) TODYWEN! Satellite Services Guide Manager & Co-Monitor, SATELLITE TIMES magazine * My views do not necessarily represent the views of my employers * From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.wwwi.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!stat!david Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Message-ID: <47u476$les@crier.knighted.com> From: yingst@knighted.com (Harry Yingst) Subject: Mods for Icom IC-736 Date: 9 Nov 1995 23:52:06 GMT Approved: rec-radio-info@stat.com Organization: Knighted Computers Sender: news Lines: 62 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94309 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21428 From: yingst@knighted.com (Harry Yingst) Subject: Mods for Icom IC-736 Date: 9 Nov 1995 23:52:06 GMT Organization: Knighted Computers Message-ID: <47u476$les@crier.knighted.com> Does anyone have any mods for the ICOM IC-736? I'm looking for a way to turn the pre-amp back on below 1.6 Mhz. Icom turns it off even though it the light says it's on. I would like to listen for some lowfer stations 1750 meter band (160-190 kc. 1 watt into a 50 ft antenna). I'm also looking for a way to improve the recieve audio. The recieve audio sounds flat and distant, lacking highs & lows. With the notch filter ON the audio sounds a little better, but it still could use some improvement. They re-shape the audio through the notch filter, and it actually has a nicer sound with the notch filter on (Has more highs & lows). I had a IC-737 that had the same problem with the audio, just not sounding quite right. I am also interested in any other mods for the Icom IC-736. Please send any replies to yingst@knighted.com Note: If you post a reply into this newsgroup I proably wont get it, my internet provider only holds news for 1 day. Thank You. Harry N6VUJ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!pcohio!john.palinkas Distribution: world Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Motorola HT-220 From: john.palinkas@pcohio.com (John Palinkas) Message-ID: <24.41089.2803@pcohio.com> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:13:00 -0500 Organization: PC-OHIO PCBOARD - Cleveland, OH - 216-381-3320 Lines: 9 Are Motorola HT-220 Handie-Talkies of any value for ham radio? Thanks John KB8YTB john.palinkas@pcohio.com --- ţ OLXWin 1.00a ţ I'M %JH3 TAGFILE _ _ --------------------------------------------------------------- |_|_| PC-OHIO PCBoard OIS pcohio.com HST 16.8: 216-381-3320 |_|_| The Best BBS in America Cleveland, OH V34+ 33.6: 216-691-3030 --------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!canyon.sr.hp.com!donrm From: donrm@sr.hp.com (Don Montgomery) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Motorola HT-220 Date: 13 Nov 1995 19:26:33 GMT Organization: Hewlett Packard Sonoma County Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <488659$ebu@canyon.sr.hp.com> References: <24.41089.2803@pcohio.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mtleng02.sr.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] John Palinkas (john.palinkas@pcohio.com) wrote: > Are Motorola HT-220 Handie-Talkies of any value for ham radio? These handhelds used to be the envy of every VHF/UHF fanatic back in the early days of ham FM. However, their usefulness has diminished with the advent of the newer handy-scratchies; the Radio Shack HTX404 outfeatures a UHF HT220 many times over. The main advantage the Motorola has is rug- gedness and battery economy (in terms of current consumption, not price). If you already have one, and only hang out on a couple of channels, they work great. That, and they're repairable in case of a fall from a 100- foot tower. Don Montgomery, K6LTS donrm@sr.hp.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:52 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Movie Maker Logo and CW Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:46:20 GMT Lines: 8 Sender: charles1@netcom10.netcom.com There was a movie maker (ex. MGM ...) about 50 years ago that presented a radio tower as a logo at the start of each film. As the logo was shown a CW message was heard. What was this company? What did the CW message state? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!sparky!nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us!usenet From: mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 04:51:17 GMT Organization: AG0N's Radio Ranch Lines: 20 Message-ID: <483ud1$m2q@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.206.239.252 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 On Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:46:20 GMT, charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) wrote: >There was a movie maker (ex. MGM ...) about 50 years ago that >presented a radio tower as a logo at the start of each film. >As the logo was shown a CW message was heard. >What was this company? Correct me if I'm wrong.... I think it was RKO >What did the CW message state? Same ... R K O _____ _____ _____ ___ _____ | __|___ ___ _ _ ___ | _ | __| | | | | | | .'| _| | | |___| | | | | | | | | | |_____|__,|_| |_ | |__|__|_____|___|_|___| |___| mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Date: 12 Nov 1995 11:22:07 GMT Lines: 31 Message-ID: <484lcv$1l2@alterdial.UU.NET> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: charles1@netcom.com charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) wrote: >There was a movie maker (ex. MGM ...) about 50 years ago that >presented a radio tower as a logo at the start of each film. >As the logo was shown a CW message was heard. > >What was this company? RKO >What did the CW message state? CQ? Or was it CQ DX? Or was it CQ SS? Or was it CQ TEST? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: shirtmon@ix.netcom.com (Steven K. Smith ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Date: 12 Nov 1995 16:10:10 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 12 Message-ID: <485692$8to@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sac8-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 12 8:10:10 AM PST 1995 In charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) writes: > >There was a movie maker (ex. MGM ...) about 50 years ago that >presented a radio tower as a logo at the start of each film. >As the logo was shown a CW message was heard. > >What was this company? > >What did the CW message state? > I think it was RKO pictures. As far as the CW.... ??? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:56 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech2!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bctel.net!unbc.edu!freenet.unbc.edu!news.scn.org!scn.org!bb840 From: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Message-ID: Sender: news@scn.org Reply-To: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Organization: Seattle Community Network References: <483ud1$m2q@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:53:14 GMT Lines: 25 In a previous article, mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) says: >On Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:46:20 GMT, charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) >wrote: > >>There was a movie maker (ex. MGM ...) about 50 years ago that >>presented a radio tower as a logo at the start of each film. >>As the logo was shown a CW message was heard. > >>What was this company? > >Correct me if I'm wrong.... I think it was RKO > Close. It was RKO Pictures. > >>What did the CW message state? > >Same ... R K O > R K O P I C T U R E S - and the CW was syncronized to the letters showing up on the screen. -- Jim Aeschliman bb840@scn.org Black Diamond, Washington KD7MK From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: tgriff@ix.netcom.com (Tom Griffin) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: NEED CASH?!!...Don't You? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 04:33:14 -0500 Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-col-sc1-05.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 11 1:38:13 AM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52014 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4582 rec.pyrotechnics:37596 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17036 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12562 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21330 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11515 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94163 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31793 rec.radio.amateur.space:5680 rec.radio.cb:24376 rec.radio.noncomm:4962 rec.radio.scanner:40578 rec.radio.shortwave:65910 rec.radio.swap:50767 rec.roller-coaster:23161 rec.running:45166 rec.scouting:37574 rec.scuba:80139 rec.skiing.alpine:32754 billn@PEAK.ORG (Bill Nelson) wrote: >Please people, don't post all sorts of responses to this spam - it will not >do any good. What will work is sending a complaint to postmaster@hawaii.edu, >including the complete article. > >You will find that the person will have a severe "talking to" by the >administrator - if the account is not pulled. Most universities have >a statement in their user agreement that such posts are illegal and >ground for immediate account revocation. > >Bill No sooner said than done. Tom From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!van-bc!news.rmii.com!newsjunkie.ans.net!hgea01.hgea.org!usenet From: Wayne Jones Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Copy of QST Date: 15 Nov 1995 03:57:10 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <48boem$3kv@hgea01.hgea.org> References: <488tu2$r57@everest.pinn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp75.hgea.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) Check with your local public library, particularly in the larger cities. Most have the microfilm/microfiche copies from day 1. Aloha from the 50th State! Wayne, NH6GJ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wb3ffv!news.cais.net!news.cais.com!news From: Avery Russell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Help! Traveling around the country. Date: 12 Nov 1995 14:46:48 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4851cr$fnv@news.cais.com> References: <47mcgn$p13@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp78.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: 72450.01431@compuserve.com I'd go for the business band. You can even purchase used commerical equipment at what is called a hamfest. Find some ham operators in you neck of the woods and have them tell you when the next one is. You don't really need to purchase new equipment for this. Good luck A. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:40:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wb3ffv!news.cais.net!news.cais.com!news From: Avery Russell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Help! Traveling around the country. Date: 12 Nov 1995 14:47:04 GMT Organization: Capital Area Internet Service info@cais.com 703-448-4470 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4851d8$fnv@news.cais.com> References: <47mcgn$p13@dub-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp78.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: 72450.01431@compuserve.com I'd go for the business band. You can even purchase used commerical equipment at what is called a hamfest. Find some ham operators in you neck of the woods and have them tell you when the next one is. You don't really need to purchase new equipment for this. Good luck A. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:01 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!wanda.pond.com!kd3bj!kd3bj.ampr.org!robert From: robert@kd3bj.ampr.org (Robert E. Garland) Subject: Re: Need ideas for ham radio mini class Sender: usenet@kd3bj.ampr.org (News Posting Phantom User) Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.kd3bj.ampr.org Organization: The KD3BJ Usenet BBS Message-ID: References: <1995Nov9.211635.26132@news.wrc.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 03:52:27 GMT Lines: 32 mensing@ess.mc.xerox.com (Dave Mensing) writes: >I have been asked to prepare and teach a ham radio mini class at our >church. The class will consist of about 5 or 6 kids in the 4th, 5th >and 6th grade. The class will run one night a week (1 hour per night) >for 5 weeks. >I would like to hear from anyone that has any suggestions as to how I >might structure such a class. What sort of activities would be >appropriate for this age range? I've got some ideas but would like to >hear from you folks, too. >Thanks, > Dave Mensing, N2PSH, mensing@ess.mc.xerox.com Dave: Before you go any further, take a look at what you said. You are talking 5 hours total for the class. Decide what you wish to accomplish first. This should help you avoid false starts. If you are only planning on performing demos, showing a videotape or two and generally building enthusiasm, then 5 hours should be more than enough. If you plan to work toward licensing, then you may wish to think a bit about this. Certainly, with study outside of your 5 hours, most kids could make it through the novice and technician written elements. The question is what to do during the 5 hours. You don't have enough time to both build enthusiasm and assist in license work. I wish you success. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!nothing.ucsd.edu!brian From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: New Radio Shack 2 mtr mobile Date: 12 Nov 1995 22:20:42 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <485rvq$7d6@news2.ucsd.edu> References: <47l3vl$qkt@fnnews.fnal.gov> <48058h$jc9@hg.oro.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nothing.ucsd.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50881 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94223 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21372 In article <48058h$jc9@hg.oro.net> rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) writes: >If the question is by newsgroup, the return post should be by newsgroup. I disagree. That is completely against the traditions and accepted etiquette of Usenet news. *********************************************************************** * The responses should be directed by e-mail to the person asking the * * question, who should then post a summary of the responses. * *********************************************************************** That is the correct way to do it. Please consult the various 'network etiquette' documents for more details. - Brian From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!dawn.mmm.com!news From: grhosler@mmm.com (Gary Hosler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 08:39:34 +0000 Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN 55144-1000 US Lines: 8 Message-ID: <30A70446.418E@mmm.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) I think your attitude about wanting to learn CW is refreshing given the "I want the spectrun but don't think I should have to earn it" attitude. Have you looked into 2 meter CW? If you want to work DX there is plenty of it. Ask any local VHF/UHF operator about working scatter or EME. Both modes lend themselves very well to CW. Have you looked into the CW activity via one of the orbiting "birds"? Lotsa CW there as well. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!news.cerf.net!news.titan.com!usenet From: Bill Bennett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 14 Nov 1995 16:37:52 GMT Organization: The Titan Corporation, San Diego, CA, USA Lines: 8 Message-ID: <48agl0$eho@taxis.corp.titan.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <488frn$egp$3@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: moe.bc.tisc.titan.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: 71111.260@CompuServe.COM Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: Let's petition for 10m priveleges. K0HB wrote: The FCC is bound by ITU radio regulations Question doesnt Japan have a no code license with hf access? 10 watts bill kc6yox From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!news.sol.net!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet From: Thomas Brockdorf Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 14 Nov 1995 17:21:33 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 49 Message-ID: <48aj6t$h8l@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: arthurdent.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) wrote: > > >Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams! > >10 meter gear is easier to build than vhf/uhf gear, 10 meter priveleges >would let no-code licensees 'get their feet wet' in HF, while still >reserving lower HF bands for Code licensees. This way, people will have a >reason to learn code: To allow them to make more regular, more distant >contacts.. Right now techs are unable to see how exciting HF is, and >therefore are crowding the 2 meter band. >Learning code will be easier if people can have qso's before taking their >code exam. The only code you ever hear on 2m is repeater id's.... > >If you'd like to contribute to this posting, please do so. Also: > >Petitions: >Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out >fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what >you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind >of difference we can make! > > >73's, > > > > >Nate Gingras, KB9LSX Nate, I think it would be a good idea to give no-code Techs 10m. I also would not be opposed to access to all H.F. bands for no code. I think this will happen some day, but not for quite a few years. People would be better off putting their energy into up-grading, rather than fighting to get more privlages. It is really not that hard! It is very possible to get your General with only a month or two of study. Even less if you are really determined. All the testing is really just memorization now. Even learning CW is just a matter of memory. It used to be much harder, as you probably have heard. Great strides have allready been made to make it easier to get more people into this hobby. You have allready put the effort in to get your Tech license. All it takes is a little more, and you will be a General. 73 de Thomas AA9IS From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 14 Nov 1995 22:41:40 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 21 Message-ID: <48b5v4$lon$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: <48agl0$eho@taxis.corp.titan.com> Bill, KC6YOX asked: >>Question doesnt Japan have a no code license with >>hf access? 10 watts >>bill Yes, they do. It allows low power (I think your figure of 10W is correct) voice operation on some small slices of a couple of HF bands (75 & 15??). Their rule is based on the idea that at such low power the operation is "national" (no DX) and thus avoids conflict with the international rule. The equipment manufacturers love it! -- 73, de Hans, K0HB - - - REALITY.SYS corrupted: Reboot universe? (Y/N/Q) - - - From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 14 Nov 1995 23:23:33 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48b8dl$9e5@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <488frn$egp$3@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com In article <488frn$egp$3@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>, Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >The FCC is bound by ITU radio regulations (basically an >international treaty) which limit no-code licensees to operation >above 30MHz. Hmmmmm... doesn't seem quite fair that the CBer's and the Japanese no-coders have privileges denied to US no-coders. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Gareth Crispell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 15 Nov 1995 03:02:15 GMT Organization: Craigville Conference Center Lines: 23 Message-ID: <48bl7n$57@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <488frn$egp$3@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <48b8dl$9e5@chnews.ch.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s201.ccsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Really people - we are talking about 5 dinky words per minute. My buddy's seven year old picked it up in about a week. I think given a fair shot my little pussycat could do it. I don't know, maybe we should reduce the speed requirement to 3 wps. N1MSV -- ..as for the mysteries of the Universe...they knew them not... And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble. gareth e-mail stranger@ccsnet.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: victorm@cts.com (Victor Morange) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:20:02 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 48 Message-ID: <48btac$m79@news2.cts.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: victorm.cts.com herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) wrote: >Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams! >10 meter gear is easier to build than vhf/uhf gear, 10 meter priveleges >would let no-code licensees 'get their feet wet' in HF, while still >reserving lower HF bands for Code licensees. This way, people will have a >reason to learn code: To allow them to make more regular, more distant >contacts.. Right now techs are unable to see how exciting HF is, and >therefore are crowding the 2 meter band. >Learning code will be easier if people can have qso's before taking their >code exam. The only code you ever hear on 2m is repeater id's.... >If you'd like to contribute to this posting, please do so. Also: >Petitions: >Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out >fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what >you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind >of difference we can make! >73's, >Nate Gingras, KB9LSX For one thing you'll probably have an easier time trying to get 5wpm in code instead of waiting about 5-7 years for the ITU to even consider this. If you want to stay no-code but want a little DX, try 6 meters CW and SSB you'll get the experience of HF and you might be able to work on your code at the same time. ITU rules say: An amateur operator must have a code requirement given by its country to operate below 30 mhz. Anyway 10 meters isn't all that great unless there is a contest for the next 2-3 years until the sunspot goes up Victor Morange KO6ZK victorm@cts.com KO6ZK@W6NWG.CA.US.NOAM (Packet) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nwnews.wa.com!news1.halcyon.com!chinook!ki7zd From: ki7zd@chinook.halcyon.com (Randy Seacat) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 15 Nov 1995 06:01:21 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48bvnh$a4k@news1.halcyon.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <1995Nov14.164603.5801@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: chinook.halcyon.com Ten Meters has been awsome the last week. Worked Vk/Zl/Du/Kh6/Lu/H4 and a Ua on sunday frm my qth. 100 watts and a vertical dipole. -- /-/-/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Amateur Radio Station Inet: ki7zd@halcyon.com | KI7ZD | WWA CN87 73's _._ .. __... __.. _.. "If RST > 519, Reduce Power!" From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:11:47 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48d70j$1rvu@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <48agl0$eho@taxis.corp.titan.com> <48b5v4$lon$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: > >Bill, KC6YOX asked: > >>>Question doesnt Japan have a no code license with >>>hf access? 10 watts >>>bill > >Yes, they do. It allows low power (I think your figure of 10W >is correct) voice operation on some small slices of a couple >of HF bands (75 & 15??). > >Their rule is based on the idea that at such low power the >operation is "national" (no DX) and thus avoids conflict >with the international rule. Sounds like the Japs need to take a crash course in "Propagation 101!" I have talked around the world with 5 watts out of my car. The reality here is that the Japs have once again pulled the wool over our eyes and created a no-code class of HF license! -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!symbios.com!mjohnson.wichitaks.ncr.com!msjohnso From: msjohnso@KS.Symbios.COM (Mark Johnson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:23:52 Organization: Symbios Logic Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mjohnson.wichitaks.ncr.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] In article <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) writes: >Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams! >10 meter gear is easier to build than vhf/uhf gear, 10 meter priveleges >would let no-code licensees 'get their feet wet' in HF, while still >reserving lower HF bands for Code licensees. This way, people will have a >reason to learn code: To allow them to make more regular, more distant >contacts.. Right now techs are unable to see how exciting HF is, and >therefore are crowding the 2 meter band. >Learning code will be easier if people can have qso's before taking their >code exam. The only code you ever hear on 2m is repeater id's.... >If you'd like to contribute to this posting, please do so. Also: >Petitions: >Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out >fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what >you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind >of difference we can make! You're a few weeks too late. The WRC-95 World Radio Conference apparently debated this issue and decided that, for now, the amateur community would continue to require proficiency in Morse for operating privileges below 30 MHz. Unless the US is to abrogate the treaty under which we participate in the WRC (not likely, since it requires an act of Congress, that can't even get a budget passed), the FCC's hands are tied. Right now, I doubt the FCC is answering its phones anyway. I suspect that they're not on the list of "essential services" under the current gov. shutdown. 73 Mark Johnson WB9QLR/0 ============ Mark Johnson USnail: Symbios Logic, Inc E-mail: Mark.Johnson@symbios.com OEM RAID Business Team Voice: (316) 636-8189 [V+654-8189] 3718 N. Rock Rd. Visit our web page: http://www.symbios.com Wichita, KS 67226 From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!nctuccca.edu.tw!aladdin.iii.org.tw!keelung.transend.com.tw!usenet From: "Joe F. BV/N0IAT" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! no thanks ! Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:53:08 GMT Organization: Radio: BV/N0IAT in Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48ckb4$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.72.168.127 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) no thanks....just go take 3 weeks and learn the code. Then you can use 10 meters, 15 meters, 40 meters, and 80 meters. 73, Joe BV/N0IAT in Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C. QRV 18.078 daily South East Asia net 14.285 daily Inter Pacific Island DX net 14.165 daily From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!aztec.asu.edu!ajsklar From: ajsklar@aztec.asu.edu (ALLEN SKLAR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: OLD RADIO TUBES Date: 11 Nov 1995 11:38:12 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 12 Message-ID: <4821v4$o2@news.asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aztec.asu.edu Hi, A good sourse for tubs is Antioue Electronic Supply 6221 S. Maple Ave. Tempe Arizona 85283 Ph# voice 602-820-5411 fax 602-820-4643 800-706-6789 they do have a 36 page catalog... hope this helps de Allen AA7BJ -- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.i1.net!usenet From: mega@i1.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: OLD RADIO TUBES Date: 15 Nov 1995 06:28:14 GMT Organization: Internet 1st, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <48c19u$5g@news1.i1.net> References: <8B473F1.07E70057D2.uuout@wdn.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-240.i1.net X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) > bob.barber@wdn.com (BOB BARBER) writes: > Does anyone know of a source for old radio tubes? I have a GE console > model that dates back to the 30's. It needs a tube to make it work. > Thanks. If this is the wrong newsgroup for this message pls advise me > of the correct one. :) > > > Bob Barber > > * 1st 2.00 #8117 * Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. > >>>> CALL SND TUBE SALES ST LOUIS MO 314-770-0119 MIKE From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!news1.crl.com!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: OLD RADIO TUBES Date: 15 Nov 1995 16:57:27 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48d65n$4tp@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <8B473F1.07E70057D2.uuout@wdn.com> <48c19u$5g@news1.i1.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <48c19u$5g@news1.i1.net>, wrote: >> bob.barber@wdn.com (BOB BARBER) writes: >> Does anyone know of a source for old radio tubes? I have a GE console >> model that dates back to the 30's. It needs a tube to make it work. >> Thanks. If this is the wrong newsgroup for this message pls advise me >> of the correct one. :) >> Bob Barber >> * 1st 2.00 #8117 * Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects. >CALL SND TUBE SALES ST LOUIS MO 314-770-0119 MIKE There are lots of old tubes available at swap meets and Hamfests. Hams never throw anything away. ;-) -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!feenix.metronet.com!fohnix.metronet.com!not-for-mail From: nmcewen@fohnix.metronet.com (Neal McEwen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Old Timers, Need key parts Date: 11 Nov 1995 10:06:20 -0600 Organization: Texas Metronet, Inc (login info (214/705-2901 - 817/571-0400)) Lines: 23 Message-ID: <482hls$r6v@fohnix.metronet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fohnix.metronet.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello Gang, I've got some key / bug restorations going and need a few parts to finish up. 1. Bunnell Gold Bug -- need the circuit closing lever and mounting hardware. 2. Signal Electric Semantic -- need the pendulum stop post. 3. Electro Bug -- need weights. 4. Levinson Radio "Like-A-Flash" -- need finger pieces, binding posts. Would buy parts off your junkers or buy your junkers for the parts. I am looking for old Vibroplex bugs for my collection. Also interested in off-brand bugs, hand keys and pre-1920 telegraph instruments. Will purchase or trade my duplicates. Email for my list of duplicates for trade. -- 73 de K5RW - Neal McEwen - Richardson, TX (Dallas) ******** I collect old telgraph and wireless telegraph keys ********* HomeNet - nmcewen@metronet.com - OS/2 tcp/ip SLIP HomePage - http://fohnix.metronet.com/~nmcewen/techno_weenies.html From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!i2unix!peroni.ita.tip.net!newsvol.vol.it!news From: mirkoc@mbox.vol.it (Mirko Caserta) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Panasonic RF-65b Rcvr mods info pse Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 21:43:46 GMT Organization: Video On Line Lines: 17 Message-ID: <483575$hhh@newsvol.vol.it> Reply-To: mirkoc@mbox.vol.it NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.166.2.126 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi you all there, I owe a commercial Panasonic receiver. Model is RF-65b. I can receive SSB from 3.8 to 26.7 MHz on the SW coverage (it goes also on MW and FM 88-108). During my last travel to Ireland I saw a receiver exactly like the one I owe, but the coverage on SW was 1.5 to 29 MHz, so I think the model I've got does not cover this wider range due to italian laws. So I think that with a simple modification (usually it simply is a diode, as TH-78 users know well...) I can let it cover this wider range. I have tried all the ways to find out how to modify it, but still today I have found no reply to my question! Could anyone of you help me to solve the mistery? Thanks beforehand. 73 ____________________________________ Mirko Caserta IK0ZSN, SWL I0-5252/RM E-mail: mirkoc@mbox.vol.it AX25 net: IK0ZSN@IW0EDD.ILAZ.ITA.EU I QRP Club #172 From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:19 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Phoney-netics X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 References: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:29:51 GMT Lines: 7 My favorite phoney-netic is the ID used by one of the locals here: K-seven-seven-seven. 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!rawiley From: rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Date: 12 Nov 95 05:06:18 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 13 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <47ldgl$iup@library.erc.clarkson.edu> <47otme$p2d@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.weeg.uiowa.edu . Police radar is a sales tool. It is analogous to the "testers" carried by water softener salesmen and the computers insurance sales- men use to show how under insured you are. "Dukes of Hazzard" fans remember Roscoe clocking cars with a hair dryer. NE0R From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:21 1995 Date: 14 Nov 1995 22:37:52 EDT Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!newsserver.jvnc.net!dccc.edu!wcoyle Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wcoyle@dccc.edu (William Coyle) Message-ID: <816406676903@iss.dccc.edu> Organization: Delaware County Community College References: <47oa28$f3n@progress.progress.com> Subject: Re: Police radar, was he lying? Lines: 29 DA>: 1. The simplest solution is to drive the speed limit! DA>: 2. The one time in recent years I have been pulled over I was driving a DA>: grey station wagon (Volvo) DA>Chip, I hope you still drive that Volvo. Because if your running along any DA>major interstate at 55mph you gonna get a metal enema real soon. Get real, DA>the most dangerous speed I can think of driving is the speed limit on DA>an interstate. If you must do this, please keep right. DA>-- DA>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= DA>Steve D'Amelio Systems Administrator DA>Progress Software Corp. Platform Engineering DA>14 Oak Park Unix 5.4 / HPUX DA>Bedford, MA 01730 damelio@progress.com DA>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- True, driving 55 on most major highways is certanly dangerous. I've tried it. Quite often I like to sit back and enjoy the scenery and do the speed limit but found it just to dangerous. As for getting fewer tickets with different cars, that is true. I often break the limit in my teal green pickup and almost never get stopped, but my sister with her red mustang going about the same speed on the same road and she gets tickets all the time From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:41:22 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: POST YOUR BEST SSTV RX'd PICS ON THIS THREAD! Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 18:15:50 GMT Lines: 7 Sender: charles1@netcom15.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94214 rec.radio.shortwave:65973 I have recieved a bunch of SSTY pictures on my SW radio (Sony 2010) with HAMCOM and JVFAX. Some have been incredibly clear. Since there is no rec.radio.amateur.sstv.binaries, these newsgroups seems appropriate. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:02 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: POST YOUR BEST SSTV RX'd PICS ON THIS THREAD! Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 18:29:55 GMT Lines: 1928 Sender: charles1@netcom15.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94216 rec.radio.shortwave:65975 In article , charles copeland wrote: >I have recieved a bunch of SSTY pictures on my SW radio (Sony 2010) >with HAMCOM and JVFAX. Some have been incredibly clear. > >Since there is no rec.radio.amateur.sstv.binaries, these newsgroups >seems appropriate. 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It means SIgnal plus >Noise And >Distortion. A signal generator is modulated with a 1-KHz tone at 2/3 >system >deviation. This signal is fed into the receiver under test at a high >signal level >where the receiver is receiving the signal with no noise at all. The >output of the >audio stages are supposed to be set at rated audio output. The audio >output >from the receiver is fed into a device that has an audio notch at the >1-KHz tone >frequency. At this point the output level is measured in dB. Then the rf >output >from the signal generator is reduced to where the receiver is starting to >have >noise mixed with the 1-KHz audio output. At the point where the audio >output >goes up 12 dB because of the noise from the low amount of received signal, >that >is where the rf output is noted in microvolts or decibels. A good >receiver in the >150-MHz region might have a 12 dB SINAD reading of 3 microvolts, or about >-117 dBm. >I hope this helps. >Alan - WA6AWD - Kent, WA You are mostly right about SINAD, except for the part about measuring it. SINAD is a measurement (as you correctly point out) of the ratio of signal to signal + noise + distortion. For the purposes of the measurement, the 1 kHz tone is the "signal". Everything else (white noise, harmonic distortion, etc) is "noise and distortion". So the 12 dB figure that is used as the EIA standard for SINAD sensitivity refers to a 12 dB difference between the signal alone, and the composite of signal + noise + distortion. The signal + noise + distortion component is easily measured as the total of audio input to the SINAD meter. The signal part is the difference between that total, and the measurement of the same signal with the 1 kHz notched out. The ratio can then be computed, and displayed in dB. Your method of measurement compares the "full quieting" level of the 1 kHz tone to the degraded level, which would be higher. The problem with this method is that your reference measurement includes distortion in the receiver, which is one of the things you want to measure. Also, I think you were missing a decimal point - typical sensitivity is 0.3 microvolt for 12 dB SINAD. Brian Swann WA1VUT bsw@cs.brown.edu (the day job is Field Engineer for a large manufacturer of 2-way radio equipment, but I don't speak for them in this instance.) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack VOX headset Date: 14 Nov 1995 17:26:04 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48ajfc$bsl@cis.clark.edu> References: <30A3ACC6.3060@comm.hq.af.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Vincent D'Elia (deliav@comm.hq.af.mil) wrote: > Does anyone have experence with one of these things. I tested > one using a scanner to receive and it seems to have worked fine. > I using an FT-470. > Also has anyone seen another headset that does the same thing. > Vince > KC6ISS I bought one shortly after I bought my HTX-202. I like mine quite a bit. It works well on my HTX-202 and my girlfriend's Icom O2AT. I've seen other vox headsets at HRO near Portland, OR. but they cost twice as much as the one I bought at Radio Shack. The VOX headsets at HRO might be better constructed though. James A. Doty From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nrtphba6.bnr.ca!brtph500.bnr.ca!news From: Raul Salazar Newsgroups: soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.uruguay,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.ecuador,soc.culture.cuba,soc.culture.colombia,soc.culture.chile,soc.culture.bolivia,soc.culture.argentina,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: RADIOAFICIOANDOS ENLAZADOS VIA INTERNET Date: 14 Nov 1995 19:28:32 GMT Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 6 Message-ID: <48aql0$1gt@brtph500.bnr.ca> References: <48844s$9sp@hercules.dic.uchile.cl> NNTP-Posting-Host: brtph597.bnr.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) X-URL: news:48844s$9sp@hercules.dic.uchile.cl Xref: news.epix.net soc.culture.venezuela:42960 soc.culture.uruguay:4322 soc.culture.spain:81016 soc.culture.peru:10282 soc.culture.mexican.american:7617 soc.culture.latin-america:38780 soc.culture.ecuador:3956 soc.culture.cuba:29678 soc.culture.colombia:11600 soc.culture.chile:30851 soc.culture.bolivia:9913 soc.culture.argentina:26700 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94308 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11572 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21427 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12627 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17115 Por primera vez veo un cross-posting que valio la pena. Ojala que este tipo de informacion (calidad) continue. Raul From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!mercury.near.net!news From: fgoldstein@bbn.com (Fred R. Goldstein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ramsey FX440 Date: 12 Nov 1995 04:42:05 GMT Organization: Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <483tut$dl5@mercury.near.net> References: <47mnku$8qd@henry.netaxis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: isdnip.near.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <47mnku$8qd@henry.netaxis.com>, mlapolt@netaxis.com says... > >Has anyone out there received satisfactory results with the Ramsey >FX440 transceiver kit? ...I'm going to start troubleshooting >the rig this week (I hope), and will keep any interested parties up to date. I built one when it first came out a few years ago. No workee. I sent it back to Ramsey, who made MAJOR modifications (the early boards had a lot of changes from later ones, and mine was way early). Still no workee, even after John Ramsey himself did the mods! It's now shelfware. :-( -- Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein@bbn.com +1 617 873 3850 Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!simtel!news2.acs.oakland.edu!condor.ic.net!news From: pcr@ic.net (phil reed) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: READ THIS! Date: 13 Nov 1995 03:00:19 GMT Organization: Gizmonic Institute Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <486cc3$8vi@condor.ic.net> References: <47u4kk$osm@nic.umass.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.160.44.8 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article , rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu says... > >. > >This looks like a chain letter to me. I responded to >the poster, with a copy of the post, and mentioned that. Well, not only did I respond to the poster, I'm forwarding a copy to the IRS. I'm sure they will be interested in any income generated by this letter but not claimed on their tax form. -- ...phil Microsoft Network is prohibited from redistributing this work in any form, in whole or in part. Copyright, Phillip C. Reed, 1995. License to distribute this post is available to Microsoft for $1,000. Appearance without permission constitutes an agreement to these terms. Please send notices of violation to Postmaster@microsoft.com and pcr@ic.net. Grep trigger words: eWorks! OT7 IBM bomb Green Card hack phreak PGP fingerprint = C5 41 B5 9E B4 56 0C C3 26 FC B9 ED BC D7 CA 8B From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!hal9000!*Chris Conklin From: Conklin@forbin.com (Chris Conkln) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Date: 13 Nov 1995 05:20:56 GMT Organization: Colossus Internet Services Lines: 53 Message-ID: <486kjo$r54@hal9000.forbin.com> References: <47r7nf$4a@lambchop> <47tucb$o78@gw.PacBell.COM> <47vob6$flq@watt.oedison.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip11.forbin.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <47vob6$flq@watt.oedison.com>, wagnerj@watt.oedison.com (John Wagner) wrote: >In article <47r7nf$4a@lambchop>, Ron Thompson >wrote: >>>I was recently experimenting with code squelch on some local >>>repeaters. I found that ALL the repeaters I tried fail to >>>transmit the tones. I thought code squelch would be great to >>>facilitate quiet standby, but it's going to be pretty much >>>useless if it doesn't work through repeaters. >>> >>>Does anyone know why this happens? Are there any ways around >>>it? > >I agree that this make coded squelch pretty useless, but it reduces the >hacker factor on repeaters. [snip....] I think the first gentleman may have referred to passing CTCSS/PL/CG or DPL/DCS tones through repeaters, although "coded squelch" can certainly fit either DTMF or CTCSS formats (or any of the dozen pager formats for that matter). As for CTCSS tones, most repeaters do not pass these through for one of several reasons: 1) most modern plastic radios lack adequate audio filtering to prevent the tones being *very* audiable and annoying through the speaker- especially consdiering that most of these same radios have fixed encode deviation levels of more than 800hz. 2) Some repeater systems are multisite (diversity reception, or 'split-site' with receiver and transmitter at different sites) and employ radio links that themselves use CTCSS or DCS for squelching. Filtering of the initial tone presented at the receiver is neccessary before tone is added to the link transmitter or nasty sounds occur, or worse yet the decoder becomes totally baffled and remains squelched. 3) If the repeater requires a single CTCSS tone to activate- passing the tone is of little use for selective calling: everyone uses the same tone! (And, no the trustee cannot reasonably add multiple tone decoders without serious expense or time, and a lot of excessive ratty wiring in the cabinet- plus this totally defeats the purpose of CTCSS's use as a co-channel interference minimizer). A lot of repeaters (at least around here...) filter the tone after the receiver, and then reencode it directly into the modulator. That way there is a controlled 500hz deviation, no massive swings in deviation due to poorly maintained radios. A 4066 used as an audio gate works great for this, and of course can be activated by carrier activity on the repeater receiver or by CTCSS reception on the receiver (or both!). 73 Chris Conklin Amateur Radio station N0PAV Conklin@Forbin.com From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!lamarck.sura.net!mother.usf.edu!babbage!knupke From: knupke@babbage.csee.usf.edu (Paul Knupke (CS)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:48:52 GMT Organization: University of South Florida Lines: 27 Message-ID: <48d964$3fs@mother.usf.edu> References: <47r7nf$4a@lambchop> <47tucb$o78@gw.PacBell.COM> <485ri1$7cv@news2.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: babbage.csee.usf.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Brian Kantor (brian@nothing.ucsd.edu) wrote: : Most repeaters don't repeat sub-audible tones because they aren't : designed to. In the commercial world, either the tone is regenerated : or is fed through via a special 'tone coupler' device. : You might find a repeater with such installed. They're rare though, : especially on carrier-squelch repeaters. It is becoming more popular for repeaters to transmit a sub-audible tone of their own if they are carrier access. Several repeaters around the St. Pete/Clearwater area do that. Some of the 440 repeaters that require a tone, transmit the same tone. Several repeaters around here have had a squelch tail elimination modification (done on Motorola Micor radios) that utilize transmitting a tone. Paul -- ================================================================== Paul Knupke, Jr. / Pinellas County ARES Asst. EC knupke@babbage.csee.usf.edu / Pinellas County Skywarn Largo, FL USA / Fidonet 1:3603/570 Amateur Radio Callsign KR4YL / Packet @N4CNW.#TPA.FL.USA.NOAM ================================================================== From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!pinetree From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Replies to Burt Fisher are Spamming the Net Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 17:37:40 GMT Organization: Microserve Information Systems (800)-380-INET Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <489a3b$l31@crash.microserve.net> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: pinetree.microserve.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52078 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4604 rec.pyrotechnics:37658 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17107 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12619 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21418 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11566 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94290 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31853 rec.radio.amateur.space:5743 rec.radio.cb:24437 rec.radio.noncomm:4975 rec.radio.scanner:40688 rec.radio.shortwave:66056 rec.radio.swap:50964 rec.roller-coaster:23193 rec.running:45265 rec.scouting:37641 rec.scuba:80283 rec.skiing.alpine:32899 To all readers: Please check the "Post To:" or "Newsgroups:" listing in your newsreader before responding to Burt Fisher. He is spamming many groups with his posts and your followups are doing the same. Thanks, Jack From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Rules of ham DUMB. Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:42:40 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50793 rec.radio.shortwave:65920 rec.radio.scanner:40586 rec.radio.amateur.space:5685 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31795 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94174 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11518 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21336 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12565 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17039 Ham operator Jokes: 1. What is the thinnest book in the world? What hams know about women. 2. How does a ham take a bubble bath? He eats beans for dinner. 3. What's a ham's idea of foreplay? A half hour of contesting. 4. How can you tell if a ham is sexually excited? If he's still breathing. 5. How many hams does it take to change a roll of toilet paper? We don't know...it has never happened. 6. What's a ham's idea of helping with the housework? Lifting his leg so you can vacuum. 7. What does a ham consider a seven course meal? A hot dog and a six pack of beer. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsat!uswc.uswest.com!usenet From: "Dennis A. Mason" Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: Rules of ham DUMB. Date: 12 Nov 1995 03:09:03 GMT Organization: USWest SA news server Lines: 2 Message-ID: <483ogf$4j5@sanews.uswc.uswest.com> References: <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.116.178.206 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-URL: news:4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50812 rec.radio.shortwave:65931 rec.radio.scanner:40606 rec.radio.amateur.space:5690 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31805 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94188 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11525 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21346 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12573 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17053 well burt sounds like you are very educated. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: randolw@ix.netcom.com (Randol D. Williams ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: Rules of ham DUMB. Date: 12 Nov 1995 03:21:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 27 Message-ID: <483p6s$kk4@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-mia3-19.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 11 7:21:00 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50826 rec.radio.shortwave:65949 rec.radio.scanner:40610 rec.radio.amateur.space:5693 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31810 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94194 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11526 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21350 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12575 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17057 In <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: > >Ham operator Jokes: > >1. What is the thinnest book in the world? > What hams know about women. > >2. How does a ham take a bubble bath? > He eats beans for dinner. > >3. What's a ham's idea of foreplay? > A half hour of contesting. > >4. How can you tell if a ham is sexually excited? > If he's still breathing. > >5. How many hams does it take to change a roll of toilet paper? > We don't know...it has never happened. > >6. What's a ham's idea of helping with the housework? > Lifting his leg so you can vacuum. > >7. What does a ham consider a seven course meal? > A hot dog and a six pack of beer. What kinda beer? Can or bottle? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!castle.nando.net!news From: Dave Hockaday Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: Rules of ham DUMB. Date: 13 Nov 1995 02:19:37 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4869vp$odu@castle.nando.net> References: <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <483p6s$kk4@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <485olj$kgm@castle.nando.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail716.nando.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: cmedico@nando.net Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:51024 rec.radio.shortwave:66101 rec.radio.scanner:40731 rec.radio.amateur.space:5751 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31871 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94346 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11586 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21443 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12639 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17124 cmedico@nando.net wrote: > >In Article<485olj$kgm@castle.nando.net>, write: >> Path: castle.nando.net!news >> From: Dave Hockaday >> Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amate= ur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna >> Subject: Re: Rules of ham DUMB. >> Date: 12 Nov 1995 21:24:03 GMT >> Organization: News & Observer Public Access >> Lines: 12 >> Message-ID: <485olj$kgm@castle.nando.net> >> References: <4835cg$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <483p6s$kk4@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail512.nando.net >> Mime-Version: 1.0 >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) >> To: randolw@ix.netcom.com >> Xref: castle.nando.net rec.radio.swap:47712 rec.radio.shortwave:61743 rec.radio.scanner:27055 rec.radio.amateur.space:5081 rec.ra= dio.amateur.policy:29534 rec.radio.amateur.misc:88528 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:10278 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:18962 rec.radio.a= mateur.digital.misc:10944 rec.radio >amateur.antenna:15344 >> >> >>7. What does a ham consider a seven course meal? >> >> A hot dog and a six pack of beer. >> > >> >What kinda beer? Can or bottle? >> >> That is a question that deserves some serious consideration. I thought it >> sounded like the perfect meal (I would require 2 hotdogs, though). Throw >> in some chips and you're living good :-) >> >> Dave WB4IUY >> >So Dave, What do you do on the weekends??? >Chris KC4YLE Partake of perfect meals, for one :-)... WB4IUY From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ns1.win.net!bjohns!bret Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <2218@bjohns.win.net> Reply-To: bret@bjohns.win.net (Bret A. Johnson) From: bret@bjohns.win.net (Bret A. Johnson) Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 17:55:12 GMT Subject: Shuttle #2 Lines: 21 Hello all, I have gotten STSLPUS and a city file for it that has one city that is about 25 miles away from me. I am tring to find out my long and lat so I can plug that in to the program. Does anyone know where I can find this info? Also, Since the shuttle did not go up till this moring (SUNDAY) Where can I get the 2 element file with the lift of and orbit paths? Yes, I am new to this as you cn tell... I have my 2M receiver setup on 147.45 simplex to here it. But, Need the updated elements to get the closes pass to me.. Is there newsgroup or web/ftp site that has all this info? Thanks.... From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!bbs.mhv.net!Thomas.Randall From: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net (Thomas Randall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Shuttle #2 Date: 13 Nov 1995 01:42:25 GMT Organization: MHVNet, the Mid Hudson Valley's Internet connection Lines: 40 Message-ID: <4867q1$3s9@over.mhv.net> References: <2218@bjohns.win.net> Reply-To: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net NNTP-Posting-Host: csbh.mhv.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Bret A. Johnson (bret@bjohns.win.net) wrote: : Hello all, : I have gotten STSLPUS and a city file for it that has one city that is : about 25 miles away from me. : I am tring to find out my long and lat so I can plug that in to the : program. Does anyone know where I can find this info? : Also, Since the shuttle did not go up till this moring (SUNDAY) : Where can I get the 2 element file with the lift of and orbit paths? : Yes, I am new to this as you cn tell... : I have my 2M receiver setup on 147.45 simplex to here it. : But, Need the updated elements to get the closes pass to me.. : Is there newsgroup or web/ftp site that has all this info? : Thanks.... For now use the file of the city close to you. 25 miles isn't all that big of a difference really. For this and future Mir docking missions just track on MIR since the shuttle is moving towards her. Orbital data for the shuttle changes rather quickly on these missions. Get on the shuttle elements e-mail list to keep up to date. Send the message subscribe shuttle-elts to: listserv@ucsd.edu Also, listen to 145.840....That's the amateur radio dowlink for shuttle/Mir docking missions. Tom - KB2SMS From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Shuttle #2 Date: 13 Nov 1995 18:52:11 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 40 Message-ID: <48844r$eou@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <2218@bjohns.win.net> <4867q1$3s9@over.mhv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <4867q1$3s9@over.mhv.net>, Thomas Randall wrote: >Bret A. Johnson (bret@bjohns.win.net) wrote: > : Hello all, > : I have gotten STSLPUS and a city file for it that has one city that is > : about 25 miles away from me. > : I am tring to find out my long and lat so I can plug that in to the > : program. Does anyone know where I can find this info? > : Also, Since the shuttle did not go up till this moring (SUNDAY) > : Where can I get the 2 element file with the lift of and orbit paths? > : Yes, I am new to this as you cn tell... > : I have my 2M receiver setup on 147.45 simplex to here it. > : But, Need the updated elements to get the closes pass to me.. > : Is there newsgroup or web/ftp site that has all this info? Yes, there is a newsgroup: rec.radio.amateur.space > : Thanks.... [snip] > Get on the shuttle elements e-mail list to keep up to date. >Send the message subscribe shuttle-elts > to: >listserv@ucsd.edu >Also, listen to 145.840....That's the amateur radio dowlink for >shuttle/Mir docking missions. 73, -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:19 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!unknown!greg From: greg@core.rose.hp.com (Greg Dolkas) Subject: Re: Shuttle #2 Sender: news@icon.rose.hp.com (News Administrator) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 05:40:48 GMT References: <2218@bjohns.win.net> Organization: HP - Information Networks Division X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6] Lines: 14 Bret A. Johnson (bret@bjohns.win.net) wrote: : : Also, Since the shuttle did not go up till this moring (SUNDAY) : Where can I get the 2 element file with the lift of and orbit paths? : Since the Shuttle will be changing course frequently in order to catch up with MIR, the easiest thing to do is plug in the elements for its destination - MIR, and wait till it gets there. : Yes, I am new to this as you cn tell... : We all were at one time... Greg. KO6TH From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ddi2.digital.net!usenet From: lang@digital.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SINAD Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:00:09 GMT Organization: FLORIDA ONLINE, Florida's Premier Internet Provider Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4832sq$8oq@ddi2.digital.net> References: <482k9k$1648@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: @pm3_19.digital.net X-Newsreader: News for Windows NT X1.0-62 In article <482k9k$1648@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us wrote: From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us!SABINW From: sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: SINAD Date: 11 Nov 1995 16:51:00 GMT Organization: Cedar Rapids Public Library, Cedar Rapids, IA, 52401 Lines: 7 Distribution: world Message-ID: <482k9k$1648@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: SABINW@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us NNTP-Posting-Host: crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Yes Brian I know what the SINAD test is. My suggestion is to make the full quieting test first to look for gross problems. The problem is that the SINAD test itself cannot tell if the distortion is out of whack or if the noise is out of whack. The full quieting test is a good preliminary test. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!tcsi.tcs.com!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!news From: bsw@cs.brown.edu (Brian R. Swann) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SINAD Measurement Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:35:49 GMT Organization: Brown University Lines: 32 Message-ID: <482jf1$dib@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <482ied$111c@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rnpc1.cs.brown.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us wrote: >>>Alan - WA6AWD - Kent, WA >>You are mostly right about SINAD, except for the part about measuring >>it. >I believe the initial test of full quieting is a good idea because >it locates initially the possibility of severe distortion and also >defective synthesizer phase noise in the radio that might affect other >tests. It is best to check this out first. The second part is to >proceed with the normal SINAD test as all parties have described. Yes, but a SINAD measurement *INCLUDES* distortion. If you get an out-of-spec SINAD on a receiver, it means to investigate further, and the problem is not necessarily sensitivity. If you want to check distortion at full quieting, that's fine. Just don't use it as a baseline for SINAD measurements. If there was a lot of distortion, it would yield a falsely lower measurement of SINAD. So, I would do the measurements in the reverse of what you suggest - measure SINAD first, then if that fails, check 20 dB quieting and distortion. By the way, SINAD is not a great measurement of the actual usability of a receiver, since it only tests distortion at one frequency (1 kHz). Brian WA1VUT From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!cocoa.brown.edu!news From: bsw@cs.brown.edu (Brian R. Swann) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SINAD Measurement Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:33:23 GMT Organization: Brown University Lines: 36 Message-ID: <48cmma$dau@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <482ied$111c@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> <482jf1$dib@cocoa.brown.edu> <1995Nov11.184348.19978@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: rnpc1.cs.brown.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent v0.55 gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <482jf1$dib@cocoa.brown.edu> bsw@cs.brown.edu (Brian R. Swann) writes: >>By the way, SINAD is not a great measurement of the actual usability >>of a receiver, since it only tests distortion at one frequency (1 >>kHz). >That depends on the test gear. Some instruments let you use any tone >frequency you like, the notching is done by shifting the phase of the >tone and summing it with recovered audio. HP analyzers work this way. >You can sweep the tone across the entire passband (you have to wait >for the auto notcher to settle at each frequency before the reading >means anything of course). I wasn't aware of that, and I agree, testing at a few other frequencies would improve the quality of the test. However, EIA SINAD is defined only at 1 kHz. There aren't many manufacturer's specs out there for anything but SINAD measured at 1 kHz. >This leads to an idea for amateurs with outboard DSP boxes with >auto notchers. If you set the through gain of the DSP to unity, >you should be able to compare the signal going into the DSP with >the signal coming out after the constant tone is notched out to >simulate something similar to a SINADer. The quantization noise >of the DSP gets included doing this though. The ratio you get >is somewhat different, of course. What you get is Signal+noise+ >distortion to noise+distortion. I don't have any real experience with DSPs, but would it be possible to measure the quantization noise separately, and subtract it from the result? Brian, WA1VUT bsw@cs.brown.edu From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newshost.nmt.edu!flesh!djohnson From: Dave Johnson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Socorro (NM) Hamfest Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:31:32 -0700 Organization: New Mexico Insitute of Mining and Technology Lines: 53 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: flesh.nmt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SOCORRO (New Mexico) HAMFEST Time: Saturday, November 18, 1995, 9:00 am - 5:00 pm local; held in conjunction with Socorro's "Festival of the Cranes" Place: Socorro High School (just west of Socorro on U.S. 60) Talk-in: 146.68 - Admission: Free VE Session (ARRL VEC): Registration 11-12:00 Exam (all classes) 12:00 (noon) Walk-ins Welcome Contact: Kalman, AJ5B at (505) 835-5225 Attractions: Prizes - ICOM IC-W31A Dual-band HT ICOM IC-T22A 2-m HT Commercial Vendors Swap Tables ($5.00 each) Free Display areas - QRP/Homebrew Contest - Prizes to be awarded (bring a card describing your entry) Giveaway Table Presentations and Forums - AMSAT Forum QRP Forum RFI Forum ARRL Forum Morse for Morse-Haters Displays and Demonstrations - too numerous to mention. Contact: Monte, WB5RZX at bateman@nmt.edu or call (505) 835-4782 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ 73, de Dave (Johnson) - KB5YIW in Socorro, New Mexico _/_/ _/_/ _/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.sunbelt.net!usenet From: Steve.Breland@rmh.edu (Steve Breland) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: re: spamming the net - was Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 23:03:53 GMT Organization: Richland Memorial Hospital Lines: 14 Message-ID: <488fb2$ehk@news1.sunbelt.net> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: seb.rmh.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99a.107 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17104 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12616 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21412 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11563 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94287 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31850 rec.radio.amateur.space:5741 rec.radio.cb:24435 rec.radio.noncomm:4973 rec.radio.scanner:40682 rec.radio.shortwave:66053 rec.radio.swap:50960 Burt Fisher wrote: >I said: "I have a VIC 20 I want to trade for a IC-781" (how long do we >have read thesre messages where some ham wants to trade his junk for >something woth something). > Burt, How's about trimming the non-radio groups from your posting Newsgroups? Thanks, -Steve email: Steve.Breland@rmh.edu From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!psuvax1!news.cc.swarthmore.edu!netnews.upenn.edu!Lehigh.EDU!Lehigh.EDU!not-for-mail From: c002@Lehigh.EDU Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: SSTV/FAX/RTTY on 2m in east PA PLEASE! Date: 12 Nov 1995 11:44:31 -0500 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48589f$1hjk@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ns2-1.cc.lehigh.edu is there ANYONE that will help me with SSTV/FAX/RTTY on 2m FM in east PA? i know i can transmit, but i have no idea if i can rx.... so if there is anyone that can do this..please private reply this message!!! thanks DAvid |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | David Roseman | c002@lehigh.edu OUTTA ORDER! | | Saucon Valley Sen. HS | | | SysOp of NODE 3 BBS | The Flying HAm - BBS | | | Running OBV/2 Software | Technomage - BBS | | | | N3SQE/1 - HAm V | | | N3SQE@Nxxxx.FNxxxx.PA.USA.NA - Packet | From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:27 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!wb3ffv!news.scn.org!scn.org!bb840 From: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Subject: Re: Standard #C5608DA - sub audibles? Message-ID: Sender: news@scn.org Reply-To: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Organization: Seattle Community Network References: Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 19:06:46 GMT Lines: 16 In a previous article, tedt@halcyon.com (Ted Thompson) says: >I have a Standard C5608DA and would like to install a sub-audible tone. I >don't find anything in the anual. > >If someone knows how to do this, Please email. > I had very good luck installing a CTCSS board from Communication Specialists into an old IC-2A. They provided sheets showing how to connect the board and their technical assistance was first rate. You can order the board and obtain technical assistance over the same 800 number: 1 (800) 854-0547. -- Jim Aeschliman bb840@scn.org Black Diamond, Washington KD7MK From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!svc.portal.com!news1.best.com!shellx.best.com!usenet From: Danny Goodman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Standard C508A Freq Range Date: 11 Nov 1995 23:49:09 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Lines: 12 Message-ID: <483cpl$4v3@shellx.best.com> References: <480kon$9ng@oznet03.ozemail.com.au> <1995Nov11.030204.15338@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: dgoodman.vip.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:1995Nov11.030204.15338@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >You could just turn the knob and find out. :-) > >When I do that on mine, band 1 covers 100-200 MHz (be sure AM detector >is on for aircraft frequencies), band 2 covers 300-400 MHz, band 3 covers >400-520 MHz, and band 4 covers 700-999 MHz, Sensitivity with _any_ antenna drops off substantially above 470 MHz. in that UHF band. In the aircraft band, the AM mode (I don't think it's a true AM detector) switches on automatically. Danny AE9F/6 From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: stelpony@ix.netcom.com (Steel Pony ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Still Need Sinadder info/manual Date: 12 Nov 1995 22:48:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <485tjb$bg@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825d3$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <30a6439c.3935195@165.113.1.21> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-ont6-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 12 2:48:11 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17071 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12589 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21373 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11538 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94224 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31821 rec.radio.amateur.space:5709 rec.radio.cb:24399 rec.radio.noncomm:4964 rec.radio.scanner:40633 rec.radio.shortwave:65986 rec.radio.swap:50886 Hi fellow hams: Still looking for info on Sinadder Model #S-101. Also willing to trade a goodie from the qrp junque box for good data. OR willing to pay cos- ts for repro's. Tnx, John, N5INZ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!dispatch.news.demon.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!xferret.demon.co.uk From: Sara Roberts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Supplier of handheld boxes and aerials? Followup-To: poster Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 06:40:03 GMT Organization: xferret Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <816072003snz@xferret.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: sara@xferret.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: xferret.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94202 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11531 rec.radio.cb:24394 rec.radio.scanner:40615 uk.radio.amateur:9092 I was wondering if any company supplies handheld radio style enclosures and aerials? Cheers, Sara. -- ._o / //\. Sara Roberts \>> | sara@xferret.demon.co.uk \\ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!hermes.cair.du.edu!mercury.cair.du.edu!not-for-mail From: awinterb@du.edu (Art Winterbauer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: swap/buy xtals for Regency HR-2A 2-meter xcvr (antique) Date: 12 Nov 1995 17:35:18 -0700 Organization: University of Denver Lines: 60 Message-ID: <4863s6$ns1@mercury.cair.du.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.cair.du.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21431 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94315 Keywords: antique 2-meter two-meter transceiver crystal xtal Cc: Will buy/swap HC-25U crystals for Regency 2-meter transceiver, model HR-2A. WANT (buy or swap) XTAL_FREQ TYPE ACTUAL FQ --------- ---- --------- 146.445 TX 6.101875 MHZ 146.445 RX 45.24833 MHZ 147.225 RX 45.50833 MHZ 147.825 TX 6.159375 MHZ 146.64 RX 45.31333 MHZ 146.04 TX 6.085000 MHZ HAVE (sell or swap) XTAL_FREQ TYPE ACTUAL FQ --------- ---- --------- 146.910 R 45.40333 146.310 T 6.09625 148.34 ? ? 146.78 R? 45.36000? 146.85 R 45.38333 146.88 T 6.12000 146.88 R? 45.39333 145.010 T 6.04208 145.010 R 44.77000 Specifications: RX XTALS: Freq. tolerance of .001% 3rd overtone Series resonance of 250 Hz Max. equivalent series resistance of 35 ohms Drive level of 2 MW Holder HC-25/U TX XTALS: Freq. tolerance of .001% @ 25 deg. C, .0015% from -10 to +60 deg. C Fundamental mode Load capacity of 32 pf Max. series resistance of 40 ohms Drive level of 2 MW Holder HC-25/U Art N0OQS awinterb@du.edu -- Art awinterb@du.edu OR awinterb@diana.cair.du.edu From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.bluesky.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!homer.alpha.net!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mid.net!sbctri.tri.sbc.com!newspump.wustl.edu!gumby!newsserv.grfn.org!pm087-01.dialip.mich.net!user From: matt@grfn.org (Matt Overholt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: TH-28a Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 16:40:54 -0500 Organization: Grand Rapids Free-Net Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm087-01.dialip.mich.net Anyone have a Kenwood TH-28a? Just wondering what they thought of it. Thanks, Matt Overholt -- Matt Overholt From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!matlock.mindspring.com!tcarlyle.mindspring.com!tcarlyle From: tcarlyle@mindspring.com (William C. Carmichael) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: The Anti-ARRL Broadcast Group- what is it? Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:21:00 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tcarlyle.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Sorry to post this, but I stumbled across some ALLEGED ham broadcasting ranting and flaming of the ARRL on HF a while back, but never got wind of who he/they were. It was almost like a commercial radio broadcast, just keyed down and yapping away about the FCC, League, etc. Then "they" claimed to be some sort of ham org doing community service. Can somebody E-Mail me (no post response please!) the name of this "group" and info on how to contact them? TNX es 73s de Bill, WA4EVQ OBTW, a league member, FWIW. tcarlyle@mindspring.com Atlanta, GA From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Date: 11 Nov 1995 21:43:37 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-------------------------------46492684123405" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50794 rec.radio.shortwave:65921 rec.radio.scanner:40587 rec.radio.amateur.space:5686 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31796 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94175 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11519 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21337 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12566 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17040 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------46492684123405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From K1OIK: ---------------------------------46492684123405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain Frequently I hear hams say, THE name HERE is______. How often do you say when you meet someone (assuming your name is Charlie), THE name HERE is Charlie? You never do that right? After to do so is so impersonal and asinine that you would not want to seem like a fool-then why do it on the air? Just because you are a ham is no excuse not to be personal. Of course you could really sound like THE jerk of the year by saying, THE first personal here is Charlie (at least if you are not personal-you are using the word-albeit it in an extremely impersonal way). Also why say "here", is your name any different when you are "there?" 73 from we here (not there) at K1OIK where THE name are Burt. ---------------------------------46492684123405-- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!bt!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Date: 15 Nov 1995 01:00:06 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <48be2m$ek9@alterdial.UU.NET> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: afn17891@freenet.ufl.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31863 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94317 "Thomas W. Castle" wrote: >Y >Now you can see how boring it is reading useless crap... >Do yourself a favor, find a new or different hobby... >Unless your 10-13yrs old & like flaming & whinning... > >C/U De Tom a.k.a. KD4QHH What a man you are. And experienced too. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.consultix.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!freenet3.freenet.ufl.edu!afn17891 From: "Thomas W. Castle" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 03:59:02 -0500 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <199511150209.AA02117@unix.ccsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet3.afn.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199511150209.AA02117@unix.ccsnet.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31869 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94341 On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Burt Fisher wrote: > > "Thomas W. Castle" wrote: > >Y > >Now you can see how boring it is reading useless crap... > >Do yourself a favor, find a new or different hobby... > >Unless your 10-13yrs old & like flaming & whinning... > > > >C/U De Tom a.k.a. KD4QHH > What a man you are. And experienced too. *** Such a reply; Did you write that yourself or did some one write it for you? *** You should abide by your own tag line! The less said in your case the better. An judging from the mail about you; the odds are against you. You are "Fun To Watch " <> in case you don't understand. *** C/U De Tom KD4QHH. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Date: 15 Nov 1995 11:05:15 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <48chhb$187@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <199511150209.AA02117@unix.ccsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: afn17891@freenet.ufl.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31870 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94342 "Thomas W. Castle" wrote: > > *** You should abide by your own tag line! The less said in your case > the better. An judging from the mail about you; the odds are against > you. You are "Fun To Watch " <> in case you don't understand. > > *** C/U De Tom KD4QHH. Odds against me? I am not a typical ham (checking to see what the prevailing opinion is before I give mine). To be despised by bozos is not really a terrible thing Mr. K D 4. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: THE Burt Date: 13 Nov 1995 01:47:11 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <485uds$na4@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: timhynde@ix.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50900 rec.radio.shortwave:65999 rec.radio.scanner:40635 rec.radio.amateur.space:5712 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31829 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94236 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11540 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21376 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12592 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17072 timhynde@ix.netcom.com (Tim Hynde ka8ddz/qrp Rochester, MI ) wrote: >Did it ever occour to you that meeting someone in person is differnt >than meeting them on the air? In my 15 brief years as a ham and SWL I >have never heard a conversation, amateur or commercial that resembled >one I would have with someone face to face. >Tim Hynde ka8ddz You mean in person you are supposed to sound like a person but on the air sounding like an ass is OK? All my conversations are spoken as much as they would be in person as possible. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: chef_don@ix.netcom.com (Donald R. Sanchez ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: THE Burt Date: 13 Nov 1995 03:40:19 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 36 Message-ID: <486en3$b5f@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <485uds$na4@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-slc3-23.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 12 7:40:19 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50921 rec.radio.shortwave:66007 rec.radio.scanner:40648 rec.radio.amateur.space:5722 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31838 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94256 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11545 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21385 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12601 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17082 In <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: > > >timhynde@ix.netcom.com (Tim Hynde ka8ddz/qrp Rochester, MI ) wrote: > >>Did it ever occour to you that meeting someone in person is differnt >>than meeting them on the air? In my 15 brief years as a ham and SWL I >>have never heard a conversation, amateur or commercial that resembled >>one I would have with someone face to face. > >>Tim Hynde ka8ddz > >You mean in person you are supposed to sound like a person but on >the air sounding like an ass is OK? All my conversations are spoken >as much as they would be in person as possible. > >#================#==================================================== # >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | >#================#==================================================== # >| k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | >#===================================================================== # > > on the air he tries to come through as much of a person as possible, but on the internet he comes through as quite the ASS! From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!ix-nhv-ct1-26 From: ka1kjz@ix.netcom.com (Ronald C. Barnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: THE Burt Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 15:55:59 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 29 Message-ID: <487put$pf2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <485uds$na4@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> <486en3$b5f@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nhv-ct1-26.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Nov 13 7:58:21 AM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50939 rec.radio.shortwave:66034 rec.radio.scanner:40671 rec.radio.amateur.space:5731 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31841 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94271 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11551 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21395 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12607 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17090 In article <486en3$b5f@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, chef_don@ix.netcom.com (Donald R. Sanchez ) wrote: _____ LOTS OF STUFF NUKED _____ > >on the air he tries to come through as much of a person as possible, >but on the internet he comes through as quite the ASS! Here's an original idea here.... IGNORE THE ASS... KILL FILES ARE OUR FRIENDS I added Burt to my killfile, and WHOA.. the number of messages my newsreader thinks it has is about half what it was. Now... if there is only a way of filtering out responses. -- **************************************************************** The opinions contained herein are mine and mine alone, so there! For only I am capable of spewing forth such absurdities and my boss / internet provider / own mother will laugh heartily at any attempt to bring them into this and disavow any knowlege of me. Then we'll have a beer and have a good laugh at your expense. **************************************************************** From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:42 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!eskimo!news From: STOP @CROSS-POSTING.COM Subject: Re: THE Burt X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Followup-To: k1oik@ccsnet.com Keywords: cross-posting Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Reply-To: fisher@meol.mass.edu Organization: NoMoreCross-posting Inc. X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99.82 References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <485uds$na4@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:05:22 GMT Lines: 46 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:50958 rec.radio.shortwave:66050 rec.radio.scanner:40680 rec.radio.amateur.space:5739 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31848 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94282 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11561 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21410 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12614 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17102 Burt Fisher wrote: >timhynde@ix.netcom.com (Tim Hynde ka8ddz/qrp Rochester, MI ) wrote: >>Did it ever occour to you that meeting someone in person is differnt >>than meeting them on the air? In my 15 brief years as a ham and SWL I >>have never heard a conversation, amateur or commercial that resembled >>one I would have with someone face to face. >>Tim Hynde ka8ddz >You mean in person you are supposed to sound like a person but on >the air sounding like an ass is OK? All my conversations are spoken >as much as they would be in person as possible. >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | >#======================================================================# COME ON BURT !!!!!!!!!!!!! >rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur..space, >rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew, >rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna BURT, Annoying, slandering, mean-spirited are all easy attributes and you excel in every field. You occasionally kinda sorta show some intelligence. Why don't you quit taking the LAZY route of cross-posting, and instead narrow it to the respective group. If seeing the responses generated by your remarks fascinates you, I'm sure somewhere in the halls of M.U. is a psychology professor that may be able to help you. Of course, practicing what you preach would be nice too !!! >| Burt Fisher | The less you say, the more people will remember | regards, founding member of the Stamp Out Cross-Posters Society SOCS From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ais.net!news.texas.net!usenet From: bob@texas.net (Bob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur Subject: Re: THE Burt Date: 15 Nov 1995 06:42:54 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <48c25e$g9o@news.texas.net> References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.UU.NET> <485uds$na4@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <48682v$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: dnet048.sat.texas.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:51026 rec.radio.shortwave:66103 rec.radio.scanner:40732 rec.radio.amateur.space:5752 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31873 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94347 >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | >#======================================================================# From your own tagline: "The less you say, the more people will remember" You seem to have no economy of words yourself, Burt baby. Especially when you spam your B.S. to 15-20 other newsgroups. You're joining the ranks of Ted Kennedy, Dukakis, and Barney Franks--people that make the state of Massachusetts look like a den of clueless MORONS! ___ Bob Scott WY7O| Roses are red, Violets are blue bob@texas.net | I'm schizophrenic, And so am I From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: asource@ix.netcom.com (InterSource ) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: 12 Nov 1995 20:41:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 46 Message-ID: <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-lv6-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 12 12:41:17 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52044 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4592 rec.pyrotechnics:37623 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17070 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12588 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21370 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11537 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94221 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31820 rec.radio.amateur.space:5707 rec.radio.cb:24398 rec.radio.noncomm:4963 rec.radio.scanner:40631 rec.radio.shortwave:65983 rec.radio.swap:50879 rec.roller-coaster:23176 rec.running:45204 rec.scouting:37605 rec.scuba:80205 rec.skiing.alpine:32815 In <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: > >I said: "I have a VIC 20 I want to trade for a IC-781" (how long do we >have read thesre messages where some ham wants to trade his junk for >something woth something). > > >From: KH2KQ@KA6EYH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM >To : K1OIK@KQ1K.MA.USA.NA Burt there is a Salvation Army Thrift Store in Thornton Colorado (on Washington Blvd.) that as of last week, had a box with 4 Vic 20's for sale for $10 --- is that a hint ???? --- surely you were not serious about that type of trade or was it a typo.> >Hello Burt, > >You actually got one of those VIC-20's you wanna trade? > >I do not have a Icom 781, but I does have a Kenwood 950SDX - howsa bout dat? > >Only problem is dat it am attached under the counter of a 36 foot >motorhome. So if youse trade for da 950 youse gotta take the motorhome >too. Its got a generator and only 123 actual miles. But the problem der >is dat it am havin a dead battery and it can't start and it is in the >driveway of my vacation home at the beach in Malibu - so youse also >gotta take the house in Malibu if youse want the 950SDX. > >Howsomever, there is a beach bunny and her girlfriend that said they >would just die if I sold the Malibu house on the beach, so they come >with the house and the motorhome and the radio. > >If dat am OK, then weese got a deal! > >Oh yeah, does the VIC-20 got a DC power supply with it? > >By the by, if you hear of anyone who has a Kenwood TS-50 attached to a >Mercedes 450SLC - I would like to trade a Radio Shack 202 for it!!!!!!! > >73 de Chuck From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!grizzarv From: grizzarv@indirect.com (Robert V. Grizzard) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Followup-To: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Date: 12 Nov 1995 21:49:34 GMT Organization: Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <485q5e$34s@globe.indirect.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bud.indirect.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52049 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4594 rec.pyrotechnics:37629 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17074 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12595 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21378 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11542 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94247 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31834 rec.radio.amateur.space:5715 rec.radio.cb:24402 rec.radio.noncomm:4965 rec.radio.scanner:40638 rec.radio.shortwave:66004 rec.radio.swap:50912 rec.roller-coaster:23179 rec.running:45220 rec.scouting:37611 rec.scuba:80218 rec.skiing.alpine:32831 InterSource (asource@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : In <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: : >From: KH2KQ@KA6EYH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM : >To : K1OIK@KQ1K.MA.USA.NA [chomp] Folks, can we trim those followup-to lines? This has nothing to do with pyrotechnics or rocketry. Or puzzles. Or skiing. Or - but you *do* have the idea, right? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!wizard.pn.com!ci-pioneer!panda!org!org!*domain!*site!*user!intersource!intersource From: Intersource@Intersource@*user@*site.*domain.org.org (Intersource) Date: 12 Nov 95 15:41:00 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Message-ID: Organization: Fidonet: PandA's Den BBS Usenet: SATINS/Net330 uucp gateway * PandA's Den BBS *Ne Lines: 56 From: asource@ix.netcom.com (InterSource ) Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Organization: Netcom In <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: > >I said: "I have a VIC 20 I want to trade for a IC-781" (how long do we >have read thesre messages where some ham wants to trade his junk for >something woth something). > > >From: KH2KQ@KA6EYH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM >To : K1OIK@KQ1K.MA.USA.NA Burt there is a Salvation Army Thrift Store in Thornton Colorado (on Washington Blvd.) that as of last week, had a box with 4 Vic 20's for sale for $10 --- is that a hint ???? --- surely you were not serious about that type of trade or was it a typo.> >Hello Burt, > >You actually got one of those VIC-20's you wanna trade? > >I do not have a Icom 781, but I does have a Kenwood 950SDX - howsa bout dat? > >Only problem is dat it am attached under the counter of a 36 foot >motorhome. So if youse trade for da 950 youse gotta take the motorhome >too. Its got a generator and only 123 actual miles. But the problem der >is dat it am havin a dead battery and it can't start and it is in the >driveway of my vacation home at the beach in Malibu - so youse also >gotta take the house in Malibu if youse want the 950SDX. > >Howsomever, there is a beach bunny and her girlfriend that said they >would just die if I sold the Malibu house on the beach, so they come >with the house and the motorhome and the radio. > >If dat am OK, then weese got a deal! > >Oh yeah, does the VIC-20 got a DC power supply with it? > >By the by, if you hear of anyone who has a Kenwood TS-50 attached to a >Mercedes 450SLC - I would like to trade a Radio Shack 202 for it!!!!!!! > >73 de Chuck -- |Fidonet: Intersource 1:330/317 |Internet: Intersource@Intersource@*user@*site.*domain.org.org | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly their own. | PandA's Den BBS FidoNet < > internet gateway - email info@panda.org From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!fangz.com!whirlwind From: whirlwind@fangz.com () Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Followup-To: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:23:23 GMT Organization: The DataXchange Network, Inc Lines: 11 Message-ID: <487uub$jod@news.dx.net> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fangz.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52066 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4601 rec.pyrotechnics:37651 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17093 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12610 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21397 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11553 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94274 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31843 rec.radio.amateur.space:5734 rec.radio.cb:24429 rec.radio.noncomm:4968 rec.radio.scanner:40673 rec.radio.shortwave:66039 rec.radio.swap:50946 rec.running:45249 rec.scouting:37628 rec.scuba:80256 rec.skiing.alpine:32872 Speaking of idiots, this wound up in a very inappropritate newsgroup. I've taken the liberty of leaving that newsgroup out of further discussion. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Barry K. Swank, Jr. Rochester, NY Whirlwind@fangz.com Sig under construction! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!i-2000.com!usenet From: dougrand@i-2000.com (Doug Randall) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 22:08:45 GMT Organization: I-2000 Inc. - Internet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <488ff6$srk@i-2000.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: dougrand.dh.i-2000.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52072 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4603 rec.pyrotechnics:37654 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17096 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12613 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21406 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11557 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94279 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31845 rec.radio.amateur.space:5737 rec.radio.cb:24433 rec.radio.noncomm:4971 rec.radio.scanner:40679 rec.radio.shortwave:66045 rec.radio.swap:50955 rec.roller-coaster:23191 rec.running:45259 rec.scouting:37635 rec.scuba:80267 rec.skiing.alpine:32879 Burt Fisher wrote: >I said: "I have a VIC 20 I want to trade for a IC-781" (how long do we >Howsomever, there is a beach bunny and her girlfriend that said they >would just die if I sold the Malibu house on the beach, so they come >with the house and the motorhome and the radio. >By the by, if you hear of anyone who has a Kenwood TS-50 attached to a >Mercedes 450SLC - I would like to trade a Radio Shack 202 for it!!!!!!! > >73 de Chuck Hello Chuck, I gotta Mercedes 350SL and it comes with a Alinco DR600. Been thinking that I might want to trade for those two beach bunnies if you don't want them any more... 73's Doug KN2Y From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!mixer.visi.com!usenet From: stevesam@visi.com (stevesam@visi.com) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:42:37 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <488apa$f88@mixer.visi.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <487uub$jod@news.dx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: stevesam.visi.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17103 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12615 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21411 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11562 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94284 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31849 rec.radio.amateur.space:5740 rec.radio.cb:24434 rec.radio.noncomm:4972 rec.radio.scanner:40681 rec.radio.shortwave:66052 rec.radio.swap:50959 whirlwind@fangz.com () wrote: >Speaking of idiots, this wound up in a very inappropritate newsgroup. I've >taken the liberty of leaving that newsgroup out of further discussion. Why not use your judgement and remove ALL inappropriate groups like I did? Me From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!mr.net!news.mr.net!mixer.visi.com!usenet From: stevesam@visi.com (stevesam@visi.com) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 17:22:05 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48ajd5$3pc@mixer.visi.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <488ff6$srk@i-2000.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stevesam.visi.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17113 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12625 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21423 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11569 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94303 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31855 rec.radio.amateur.space:5745 rec.radio.cb:24439 rec.radio.noncomm:4977 rec.radio.scanner:40696 rec.radio.shortwave:66065 rec.radio.swap:50970 crazyone@city-net.com (CrazyOne - Greg Pacek) wrote: >In article <488ff6$srk@i-2000.com>, dougrand@i-2000.com (Doug Randall) wrote: PLEASE check your subject lines people! REC.PYROTECHNICS DOESN'T CARE! Me From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!freenet3.freenet.ufl.edu!afn17891 From: "Thomas W. Castle" Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.rad Subject: Re: The test. Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 23:44:05 -0500 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <482526$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: freenet3.afn.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <482526$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52054 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4596 rec.pyrotechnics:37635 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17084 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12602 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21387 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11547 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94262 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31839 rec.radio.amateur.space:5726 Gee Burp... I see your going to be a pain in the ass in several news groups.... I don't know if your problem is caused RF, Magnetic fields or your just a plain foamer & drooler... Why don't you try some of the other news groups for some help? //www/ Dr. Kavor.@ death.com, Birth contol retro-active, or one of the www// sites for "Do it yourself Frontal lobotomy, Electro- shock therapy or just wait for your new Lithuim tablets to come in.... If your that bored with life an have nothing better to do than complain; maybe we can get you on the "Uni-B" X-mas mailing list... Don't go away mad just go away.... KD4QHH a.k.a. Tom From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!dproducts.be!sysop Subject: TONO MR250W (2m ampl) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: sysop@dproducts.be Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:40:37 MEZ Message-ID: <8045197308102@dproducts.be> Organization: D. Products Telecomm. Lines: 3 I'm lookin for the diagram of the 2m power amplifier TONO MR250W 73 de Pierre - ON4KNN From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:55 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!news1.crl.com!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!lavc!lavc!mlichtman From: mlichtman@support.com Subject: TRW Swap Meet Message-ID: <9511142205.0V15802@support.com> References: <48a03v$gpi@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Organization: L.A. Valley College Public BBS (818)985-7150 X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.35 Distribution: world Date: Tue, 14 Nov 95 22:05:22 -0800 Lines: 3 Can someone tell me the when and where of the TRW radio equipment swap meet? I am looking for an old Hallicrafters SX 99 rcvr. Any other ideas where to check? From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:56 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: TRW Swap Meet Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <48a03v$gpi@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> <9511142205.0V15802@support.com> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:22:13 GMT Lines: 14 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com mlichtman@support.com wrote: : Can someone tell me the when and where of the TRW radio equipment swap meet? I : am looking for an old Hallicrafters SX 99 rcvr. Any other ideas where to check? Always *last* Saturday of each month, even when there are five Saturdays in a month. Aviation and Marine, near LAX. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!Belgium.EU.net!dproducts.be!sysop Subject: TS811E + 1.6Mhz ? Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: sysop@dproducts.be Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 09:40:37 MEZ Message-ID: <8045197305301@dproducts.be> Organization: D. Products Telecomm. Lines: 6 I've a Kenwood TS811E but I can't use it on europeans repeaters because the shift if UHF is +1.6 and the TS811 has a -1.6 shift. Is anybody can help me or give me the modification to solve this problem ? 73 de Pierre - ON4KNN From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec. Subject: Two edged sword Kenny baby. Date: 15 Nov 1995 22:46:20 GMT Lines: 27 Message-ID: <48dqjs$m27@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <488fb2$ehk@news1.sunbelt.net> <4899ms$l31@crash.microserve.net> <48cvuv$22f@crchh327.rich.bnr.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: cnc23a@b4pph13e.bnr.ca Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94368 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31885 cnc23a@b4pph13e.bnr.ca (Ken Edwards) wrote: >All those who are upset with Burt's spamming, please inform the SYSOP of the >system from which he posts. > >-- >====================================================================== > >Ken M. Edwards, PE Bell Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC >(919) 991-4769 email: cnc23a@bnr.ca Ham: N4ZBB Packet: n4zbb@n1gmv.nc >DX PacketCluster (tm) Node : W4DW > >All opinions do reflect the views of my employer or co-workers, family, friends, congress, or president. Thanks for address of your employer. I think I will inform THEM ABOUT you. FAIR is FAIR. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!sun4nl!xs4all!alex!not-for-mail From: peter@alex.xs4all.nl (Peter Van Yperen) Date: 13 Nov 95 03:08:28 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: UNID Time-signal station Message-ID: Organization: Alexander BBS / HCC OS/2 gg - +31-10-4565600 & 2201454 Lines: 15 Hi all, Heard a UNID time-signal station (or something like this) on around 3757 Khz only tics are heard no ID. Seems operating 24 hours. Here at my location is at times very strong. Does anybody has a idea for this???? 73 de peter. ... From the biggest port of the World,ROTTERDAM 73's peter@alex.xs4all.nl ~~~ Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] -- | Via alex.xs4all.nl - HCC OS/2 GG Alexander BBS Rotterdam [NL] | FidoNet 2:500/158 & 2:500/285 - PO Box 8134 - 3009 AC ROTTERDAM | +31-10-4565600 (VFC) - BBS open 08:00 - 00:45 UTC+2 | +31-10-2201454 (VFC) - BBS open 24h | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:42:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: dmgillah@mtu.EDU (David Gillahan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: UU coded files Date: 15 Nov 95 00:31:24 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 14 Message-ID: <199511150031.TAA08491@rock.me.mtu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu And another thing, Charles, the only Charles Copelands in the FCC data base are a tech plus and a novice, so I know damn well you didn't get your "pics" from SSTV..... -- ___________________________________________________________________________ ( Take it easy. -Dave The Upper Penninsula: ) ( It's too cold, snows too ) ( Michigan Technological University much, and it takes too long ) ( The professional, perpetual student long to get here. But hey, ) ( dmgillah@mtu.edu the air's fresh, and the ) ( kb8por@w8yy.#upmi.mi.usa.na water's clean. Works for me!) (___________________________________________________________________________) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!qni.com!gwatts From: Gary Watts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: UU coded files Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:00:14 -0600 Organization: Suba Communications Lines: 40 Message-ID: References: <199511150031.TAA08491@rock.me.mtu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: qni.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199511150031.TAA08491@rock.me.mtu.edu> David, David , David, Think about what you are saying below.... or has rf finally fried your brain? I know very that he could RECEIVE SSTV with a Tech PLUS Ticket! I receive SSTV all the time using my ICOM 735 and VieWport SSTV equipment on HF.. Check it out and I'm a NO-CODE TECH Now transmitting.. That would be a problem. And another thing Dave, Looking at your Sig. lines you must need to take some more classes at MUT I would hope that they have a course in common sense. Have a good day QBH Gary Watts de N0OXV Kansas City Mo 81 GL1100I On 15 Nov 1995, David Gillahan wrote: > And another thing, Charles, the only Charles Copelands in the FCC data > base are a tech plus and a novice, so I know damn well you didn't get > your "pics" from SSTV..... > > > -- > ___________________________________________________________________________ > ( Take it easy. -Dave The Upper Penninsula: ) > ( It's too cold, snows too ) > ( Michigan Technological University much, and it takes too long ) > ( The professional, perpetual student long to get here. But hey, ) > ( dmgillah@mtu.edu the air's fresh, and the ) > ( kb8por@w8yy.#upmi.mi.usa.na water's clean. Works for me!) > (___________________________________________________________________________) > > From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.csc.fi!news.eunet.fi!newsmaster From: Jorma Saloranta Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: V47 prefix Date: 14 Nov 1995 11:27:46 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <489ufi$fc6@idefix.eunet.fi> References: <9511011437.AA00565@tix.timeplex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: olay12.espoo.orion.fi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: taylor@tix.timeplex.COM V4- ARE THE SAME. oh2ki From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!news.sasknet.sk.ca!news From: Terry Shuya Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: VE5CUP special event station (1995 Grey Cup) Date: 14 Nov 1995 18:25:21 GMT Organization: SaskNet News Distribution Lines: 25 Message-ID: <48amuh$1t1@tomcat.sasknet.sk.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: sabre31.sasknet.sk.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 32bit) The Regina Amateur Radio Association will be operating a special event station VE5CUP to recognize the Candian Football League and Regina hosting the 1995 Grey Cup. The station will start operating this week and end November 24, 1995. Contact may be made on 80 and 20 meters, and possibly other bands if conditions permit. Special QSL cards can be obtained by ... a) sending a self addressed stamped envelope (Canada only) to VE5NN (PO Box 153 Regina, SK. Canada S4P 2Z6) b) or sending an IRC to VE5NN (PO Box 153 Regina, SK. Canada S4P 2Z6) c) or via the QSL bureau. Please allow for a delay as the cards will be printed after the event. Terry Shuya (VE5HF, shuyt@sasknet.sk.ca) From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: beeb@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 11:53:57 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 10 Message-ID: <487bgm$gnp@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-hou6-01.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Nov 13 3:51:50 AM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52058 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4599 rec.pyrotechnics:37641 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17085 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12603 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21390 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11550 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94266 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31840 rec.radio.amateur.space:5729 rec.radio.cb:24426 rec.radio.noncomm:4966 rec.radio.scanner:40665 rec.radio.shortwave:66026 rec.radio.swap:50933 rec.roller-coaster:23187 rec.running:45235 rec.scouting:37621 rec.scuba:80235 rec.skiing.alpine:32860 Burt Fisher wrote: (snip) What the hell does this have to do with rollercoasters? Please remove rec.roller-coaster from this thread. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsfeed.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!v2!emb5 From: emb5@psu.edu (Eric M. Bienert) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.rad Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:07:35 GMT Organization: CAC Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: embpc.arl.psu.edu X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52124 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4608 rec.pyrotechnics:37684 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17134 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12643 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21453 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11594 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94362 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31884 rec.radio.amateur.space:5757 In article <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> dmwelch@ornews.intel.com (Don Welch) writes: >Speaking of HAM radios, could this group help me out? Every time I go and >dive with my radio set, the fuse blows. What's the trick here? maybe your submarine forgot to do it's 5 minute stop or left the screen doors open. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!nothing.ucsd.edu!brian From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 12 Nov 1995 22:08:34 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47ls1k$lh0@osshe.edu> <1995Nov9.161204.7242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: nothing.ucsd.edu My telephone number is not my identity. The Supreme Court of the United States has recent affirmed a person's right to remain anonymous. I support that decision, and would like to see how that can be reconciled with the FCC's rulings on caller id. I suspect the latter will fall. In the meantime, I place all 800 number calls from a line which does not accept incoming calls. The people on the other end of the call may collect the number, but a fat lot of good it will do them to call back on it. - Brian From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 13 Nov 1995 13:47:27 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47ls1k$lh0@osshe.edu> <1995nov9.161204.7242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >My telephone number is not my identity. > >The Supreme Court of the United States has recent affirmed a person's >right to remain anonymous. I support that decision, and would like to >see how that can be reconciled with the FCC's rulings on caller id. >I suspect the latter will fall. I doubt it. Your right to remain anonymous is granted by your ability to block your name and number and show up on the Caller ID box as an "anonymous call." But the party you are calling also has a right to block your anonymous calls, as most of us do. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!wetware!wsrcc.com!news.orst.edu!engr.orst.edu!osshe.edu!news From: "Todd F. Carney" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 13 Nov 1995 22:35:29 GMT Organization: Oregon State System of Higher Education Lines: 50 Message-ID: <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47ls1k$lh0@osshe.edu> <1995nov9.161204.7242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.211.96.92 > >My telephone number is not my identity. > > > >The Supreme Court of the United States has recent affirmed a person's > >right to remain anonymous. I support that decision, and would like to > >see how that can be reconciled with the FCC's rulings on caller id. > >I suspect the latter will fall. > > I doubt it. Your right to remain anonymous is granted by your ability to > block your name and number and show up on the Caller ID box as an > "anonymous call." But the party you are calling also has a right to > block your anonymous calls, as most of us do. > > Though I am beginning to respect the position of the pro- caller I.D. proponents, I am still baffled by the assumption that the only possible inconvenience will be to the "blocked" caller and not to the person who has a device that rejects blocked calls. The general attitude has been, "if you want to talk to me then unblock (or never block) your line." Fair enough, but what if *you* want to talk to me and I can't get passed your screen? Perhaps it's important I return your call and I am shunted off into the electronic dog house for remaining "anonymous"? This happened to a student of mine recently. He called with an urgent request and left his number on my office voice mail. I tried to call him back from home but was told by an automated device that his line did not accept "anonymous" callers. I didn't know how to unblock my line (and I wasn't inclined to anyway) so I couldn't get through to him. So be it, I thought. Tough luck for him. He missed out on an important opportunity. Like those who rely on caller i.d., if you want to deal with me you do it on my terms or not at all. It works both ways. The telephone was once hailed as a technological means of bringing people together. It's always had its downside (crank calls, obscene calls, harrassment, and pesky salesmen), but the more technology is added (automatic marketing dialers, computer phone advertizing, caller i.d.) the more the phone becomes a source of anoyance and fear and the more it becomes a means of keeping people apart. By the way, rights are inherent: you are born with them. They are not "granted" by court rulings, FCC regulations, or by my ability to block my phone line. Technology is not God. Todd Carney From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 14 Nov 1995 15:49:14 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <48adpq$6l4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu>, Todd F. Carney wrote: [snip] >Though I am beginning to respect the position of the pro- >caller I.D. proponents, I am still baffled by the assumption >that the only possible inconvenience will be to the "blocked" >caller and not to the person who has a device that rejects >blocked calls. The general attitude has been, "if you want to >talk to me then unblock (or never block) your line." Fair >enough, but what if *you* want to talk to me and I can't get >passed your screen? Perhaps it's important I return your >call and I am shunted off into the electronic dog house for >remaining "anonymous"? > >This happened to a student of mine recently. [snip] IMHO, this whole thread has snowballed to the size of a house. A telephone is a duplex communication device. If you want to communicate, lift up the receiver. If you dont wish to communicate, then dont! Its that simple. I too became victim of a 'anonymous caller' blocked number. My office phone is part of their own network, and 'id' as anonymous to caller ID boxes. This guy that wanted me to call him, had 'anonymous call' blocker on, and I got the recording telling me to "..unblock..". Since I was unable...I did not call him. Later he called, and wondered why I didnt call him. I informed him why, and also that I thought it was HIS fault...not mine. Again IMHO, people with caller ID are either paranoid, deadbeats, or both. Its VERY easy for me to say to a tele-marketing rep, "Thanks for the call, but Im not interested." and promptly hang up. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 14 Nov 1995 17:59:15 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 18 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48aldj$7v0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >Just do what the recording instructs you to do...disable the Caller ID >block and redial the call. Couldn't be easier! > >-Drew in Charlotte- > KF4DDM On most providers, and many in-house phone networks, there is no option to "disable" the block. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 14 Nov 1995 18:33:21 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 24 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48adpq$6l4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >Your generalization is wrong. Many of us who use Caller ID and anonymous >call blocking are simply honest, hard-working folks who do not wish to be >bothered by nuisance or unwanted telephone calls. Why answer the phone, >listen to the sales pitch, and say "I'm not interested" when it's so much >quicker to simply look at the box and, if it's an unwanted call, ignore >or let the machine take it? > >-Drew in Charlotte- > KF4DDM It wasnt a "generalization", it was, as stated, my opinion. I have heard Drew himself say "bill collectors"...Im sorry, but I just dont have any calls like that. Besides, wont "nuisance" and "unwanted" callers continue to call untill they get a hold of you? Sorry, but I still stand by my original testiment. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:21:13 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48d7i9$lr8@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47ls1k$lh0@osshe.edu> <1995nov9.161204.7242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b8cp$boh@osshe.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 "Todd F. Carney" wrote: > > >> Just do what the recording instructs you to do...disable the Caller ID >> block and redial the call. Couldn't be easier! >> >> -Drew in Charlotte- >> KF4DDM >> > > >As I explained, I didn't know how to do that (I still don't) *and* >I would have been unwilling to do so since I did not want my student >to know my home phone number. Net result: my student lost out. > >BTW, I rarely do what people instruct me to do let alone what a >machine tells me, and yes it *could* be easier: no rejection of >blocked calls. > > >Todd Carney You might tell your student that he/she "lost out" by their use of Caller ID. Then, let him/her decide. Sure, these things happen...but the benefits of ID'ing or blocking unwanted calls highly outweighs the negatives. If it was a REALLY important call and you REALLY didn't want your number divulged, you could've called from a payphone. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.graphics.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!usenet From: "Roy D." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 19:13:39 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Lines: 15 Message-ID: <48de53$19ut@hearst.cac.psu.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <47ls1k$lh0@osshe.edu> <1995nov9.161204.7242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b8cp$boh@osshe.edu> <48d7i9$lr8@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsppp59.cac.psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) I really don't think I'd like to go hunting a pay phone just to keep my number a secret. I have 2 lines. One the machine always answers, the number is listed and the ID is unblocked. The other line I answer, the number is unlisted, I'm VERY careful who I give the number to and the ID is blocked. Works for me. Roy Derryberry, KD3LZ Member: Aircraft Owners and Pilot's Association (red127@psu.edu) American Radio Relay League Utility Workers Union of America If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd taken better care of myself. From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:04:31 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <48d6iv$j30@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article , Jim Lowman wrote: >I tend to agree with Drew. I don't have any bill collectors calling, but >don't care to have my time wasted with telemarketers. Most are trained in >high-pressure sales, and often saying "I'm not interested" isn't enough. >Besides, they are invading my privacy and my family time. > >As I said earlier, my solution to the problem is an answering machine with >two voicemail boxes. The phone simply doesn't ring. Yes, it annoys some of >my friends that they have to go through the screening process, but they do >understand why it's necessary. Ok Jim, but wont those people continue to call back? They sure do at my house. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 17:17:48 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 40 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48d7bs$8oa@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48adpq$6l4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) wrote: > >In article <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, >Drew Durigan wrote: > >>Your generalization is wrong. Many of us who use Caller ID and anonymous >>call blocking are simply honest, hard-working folks who do not wish to be >>bothered by nuisance or unwanted telephone calls. Why answer the phone, >>listen to the sales pitch, and say "I'm not interested" when it's so much >>quicker to simply look at the box and, if it's an unwanted call, ignore >>or let the machine take it? >> >>-Drew in Charlotte- >> KF4DDM > >It wasnt a "generalization", it was, as stated, my opinion. I have heard Drew >himself say "bill collectors"...Im sorry, but I just dont have any calls like >that. Besides, wont "nuisance" and "unwanted" callers continue to call untill >they get a hold of you? Sorry, but I still stand by my original testiment. Well, if you owe money, a bill collector is most certainly an unwanted call! I agree...there are some who use Caller ID for this purpose... but I would venture to bet that the majority of users are not "deadbeats", but rather, honest people who don't wish to have their time wasted by unwanted telephone calls. What's wrong with that? Sure, they can keep calling until the cows come home...and I will continue to not answer. Eventually, they'll get sick of talking to the answering machine. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 16 05:43:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: mikes@iquest.NET (Mike Smith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: YAESU FT-5100 Date: 15 Nov 95 21:55:00 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu I have an FT-5100 for sale. It is about a year old and I have been using it for a base radio. It looks great and works great. I have the manuals for it. Im asking $350.00 for. Thank you for reading this! mikes@iquest.net Mike Smith N9MMP aka Mr. Format :) Brownsburg From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!dns.crocker.com!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!senior.nectec.or.th!usenet From: John Conrad Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (no subject) Date: 16 Nov 1995 01:21:56 GMT Organization: National Electronics and Computer Technology Center, Bangkok Lines: 12 Message-ID: <48e3nk$r9j@senior.nectec.or.th> NNTP-Posting-Host: mozart.inet.co.th Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-URL: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc Some news of possible interest re Hamfests: >There is a Hamfest to be held from 16-17 November at the island resort of Koh Samui in Thailand called"SEAnet" (Southeast Asia Net)= Of interest is the fact that Motorola is a major sponsor of the event and is launching an amateur radio called the AP-50. The Thai= equivalent to CQ magazine featured it this month on the front cover. The handheld is available at two meters and 60 centimeters. Th= e attendees are expected to be from 10-15 Southeast Asian countries to participate in the event. The last year's event was held in M= alacca, Malaysia. >Let me know if you would like addtional details. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dpc.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!col.hp.com!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: ik0dwn@esrinr.CS.ESrin.ESa.IT Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (none) Date: 17 Nov 95 14:13:42 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 1 Message-ID: <9511171413.AA24829@mail.cs.esrin.esa.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu help From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: critchie@ix.netcom.com (cr ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: *** FS: AOR AR8000 *** Date: 16 Nov 1995 03:52:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48ecid$2kk@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-ir9-24.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Nov 15 7:52:45 PM PST 1995 For Sale AOR AR8000 receiver: Full coverage - 100kHz to 1900MHz continuous no gaps, full 800MHz coverage All Mode Reception - AM, USB, LSB, CW, NFM, WFM Programmable Step Size in 50Hz increments 4.0kHz SSB filter Alphanumeric multi-line display Signal Strength bar graph 1000 channel memory bank computer control I/O port. Too many features to list. Basically, top of the line receiver with full coverage. Purchased in Europe while on vacation, barely used. Price includes complete unit with manual. Asking $550.00, I'll pick up the UPS shipping (within the U.S.). Email inquiries to: critchie@ix.netcom.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:55 1995 From: Bootlegger@msn.com (Robert Young) Subject: 2 Meter Intermod Cure Date: 19 Nov 95 00:29:32 -0800 Message-ID: <00001fef+00002e37@msn.com> Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 27 I just purchased the PAR Electronics VHFDN152 Two Meter Intermod Filter. I was unable to enjoy using my Icom IC-2700H dual band radio, due the the severe intermod I was receiveing from a local paging system. This intermod completely covered several local repeaters, and made them virtually useless during the day when the paging system was most active. I read a review on the PAR Filter in the October '95 issue of "CQ Magaize", and I called them right away. I spoke to Dale Parfitt WA2YPY, and he recommended that I try their new filter. Dale describe the filter as a passive type device with a low insertion loss,typically about .3 db. He told me that it would work with my dual band rig and was rated for up to 50 watts. He also told me that if I wasn't happy with the filter, I could retrun it for a full refund. I ordered the filter from him and I received it several days later via UPS. I was shocked and amazed at the results. It totally elliminated my intermod problem, but yet it still allowed me to monitor freqencies between 135 and 174 Mhz. The filter is rated for about 50 db of attenuation for frequencies between 152 and 154 Mhz. This seemed to block the offending paging interfence,thus allowing me to hear everything that I was missing before. If anyone else has trouble with intermod, I highly recommend this filter as a potential cure. The filter cost me $62.00 plus $4.00 for shipping and it was worth every penny!!! The telephone number for PAR Electronics is (407)586-8278. 73's de N9MSS Bob Young Bootlegger@msn.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:56 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!news.bc.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.emf.net!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zynet.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!lynx.unm.edu!oasis.enmu.edu!news From: Jory McIntosh Subject: Re: 6m calling freq RESULTS Sender: news@oasis.enmu.edu (All The News Fit To Print) Message-ID: <1995Nov16.224745.17347@oasis.enmu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 22:47:45 GMT To: jds@advradio.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <48bujf$eau@neptune.neptune.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Organization: Eastern New Mexico University Lines: 6 50.125 is the Frequency that is most monitored in my area. However, when the band opens up there are signals anywhre from 50.100 to 50.200 on ssb. Hope to work you during December-January openings 73 - Jory McIntosh - KB5UBS in DM84. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.us.world.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!usenet From: fitr%mimi@magic.itg.ti.com (J.Fitter BV/N0IAT) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 6m calling? Date: 16 Nov 1995 10:17:12 GMT Organization: Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48f338$brp@tilde.csc.ti.com> References: <47bsvl$26ri@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48e0cl$jj1$3@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: joentam@transend.com.tw NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.167.36.115 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 In article <48e0cl$jj1$3@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>, 72732.2610@CompuServe.COM says... > >Ahh, 50.110 is usually the SSB calling freq within the US... > >73 >Chris >WB5ITT > And 50.125 is the Asia DX window. -- 73 from Joe BV2/N0IAT Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C. Ex. 7J1AOF(Japan) KA0ZDH(novice) YU3/N0IAT(Slovenia) Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 //comments are mine only From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!jupiter.planet.net!earth.planet.net!billsohl From: billsohl@earth.planet.net (Bill Sohl Budd Lake) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 6m calling? Date: 18 Nov 1995 23:36:32 GMT Organization: Planet Access Networks - Stanhope, NJ Lines: 22 Message-ID: <48lqm0$1a7@jupiter.planet.net> References: <47bsvl$26ri@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48e0cl$jj1$3@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <48fo2g$6i8@taxis.corp.titan.com> <48gpaa$3a1@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: earth.planet.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : Bill Bennett (bb@tisc.com) wrote: : : Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> wrote: : : >Ahh, 50.110 is usually the SSB calling freq within the US... : : Here in southern cal. 50.25 is the calling freq. 50.110 is the dx : : or qrp calling freq. That's the same here in Northeast. : How regular are 6m contacts? I was thinking about buying a 6m radio.... : Nate, KB9LSX Buy the radio...the more of us that are on 6m, the more likely the opportunity for contacts. There's little reason that 6m SSB shouldn't be reliably available almost all the time for short distance QSOs, especially rag chewing. That'd free up more HF for other use. -- Cheers, --------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Sohl K2UNK (Budd lake, New Jersey) (billsohl@planet.net) ARRL Local Government Liason, Mount Olive Township ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.consultix.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim English) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 6m calling? Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:20:50 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 17 Message-ID: <48l140$55g@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <47bsvl$26ri@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48e0cl$jj1$3@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <48fo2g$6i8@taxis.corp.titan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an23.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 WRONGO ! 50.110 is the DX calling frequency and 50.125 is the US calling frequency. Bill Bennett wrote: >Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >>Ahh, 50.110 is usually the SSB calling freq within the US... >Here in southern cal. 50.25 is the calling freq. 50.110 is the dx >or qrp calling freq. Tim (time@tir.com) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:21:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!overload.lbl.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!hookup!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!simtel!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!linux.rz.fh-hannover.de!popeye.extern.fh-hannover.de!Stephan Date: 19 Nov 1995 04:36:00 +0100 From: Stephan@popeye.extern.fh-hannover.de (Stephan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,comp.robotics.misc,sci.electronics,rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <5y8dcn8$xcB@popeye.extern.fh-hannover.de> Subject: ? Voice-Mailbox ? X-Newsreader: CrossPoint v3.1 Lines: 14 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11666 comp.robotics.misc:1911 sci.electronics:159898 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94528 Hello all... Do anybody know how 2 build a voice-mailbox using an external selfmade switching-option and a standard soundcard in your computer ? I heard from some hams that there are construction-plans and software available...but I do not know where..... Please help... dl4oca, Stephan From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!usenet From: Stephan M. Anderman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: A better ham trade.... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 16:27:53 -0500 Organization: Delphi (info@delphi.com email, 800-695-4005 voice) Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com Let's trade Burt Fisher, Wayne Green, and two amateurs to be assigned call signs later to the CBers for Jock Elliott and a few 11 meter vets with a half a lick of sense and as desire to move on to something better... Looks like the CBers have run out of draft choices!!! Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB sanderman@delphi.com Stillwater, NY From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!mn6.swip.net!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!csn!news-2.csn.net!rcw From: rcw@csn.net (Robert C. White Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: A Label Past Its Time Date: 20 Nov 1995 00:23:49 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48ohql$3lo@news-2.csn.net> References: <45a5dh$qnj$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <45bggb$efo@hg.oro.net><45cu63$20o@crcnis3.unl.edu> <1401@heart_talk.win.net> <46oe3s$c2o@hg.oro.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.27.22 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Jim Weir (rst-engr@oro.net) wrote: : Tech+ means nothing more to me than a person has taken a useless : Federally mandated step to learn an outmoded system of modulation on : their way in the amateur stairstep process. Sort of like learning : Latin in high school. Hi. A newbie here, studying for my novice license, but FWIW, CW is about all that interests me. The reason for the interest is that a novice can use it on the 40 and 80 meter bands, and it is my observation that CW cuts through the QRM much better than voice communications. I would expect to do much better with DX QSO than with any other transmission mode. Is this idea wrong? I hope this mode doesn't die before I get to try it! [ Robert C. White, Jr. rcw@whitestar.com ] [ WhiteStar Corporation ] [ Love me, love my malamute. Cartographic Data ] From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.zeitgeist.net!cygnus.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news1.toronto.fonorola.net!pathway1.pathcom.com!ts1l5 From: jfox@pathcom.com (J.FOX) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Any mods for the Icom IC 2350H ? Date: 20 Nov 1995 05:22:57 GMT Organization: Pathway Communications Lines: 5 Message-ID: <48p3bh$co5@pathway1.pathcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1l5.pathcom.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Does anyone know of any modifications for the new Icom IC 2350H dual band mobile? jfox@pathcom.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: turner@safety.ICS.UCI.EDU (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) Subject: Anyone in Flint, MI? Message-ID: <27733.816632690@safety.ics.uci.edu> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Lines: 11 Date: 17 Nov 95 18:27:43 GMT Howdy - Looking for someone in Flint who could help me find a spot to throw a wire up into a tree at 0700 UTC (2 am?) next week some morning so that I can put the Michigan capital on a WAS net. I am in CA, don't know if there are safe parks or rec areas in the city. Hey, if you can spare your driveway for an hour and there is a tree nearby...and you wouldn't mind a very early morning visit.... Clark WA3JPG From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!btnet!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 09:14:21 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <816513261snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b1hd$cka@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com "Drew Durigan" writes: > Question: wouldn't these > operators be much more inclined to make the transition to legal, licensed > operators if the Morse requirement was eliminated? I believe that people who already flout FCC regulations are unlikely to change their attitude only because they are given more privileges. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: mjsilva@ix.netcom.com (michael silva) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB100 Morse requirement stays Date: 16 Nov 1995 20:55:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 21 Message-ID: <48g8fj$n4a@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <47e5g9$vav@crow.cybercomm.net> <48agqi$8nv$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <48an0e$13ik@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48b1hd$cka@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-val-ca2-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Nov 16 12:55:15 PM PST 1995 In <48d6n1$1e12@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: >You cannot obtain a license and operate legally on 10-meters without >passing a Morse code test...but yet you can go into any truck stop >and, relatively inexpensively, purchase a radio and amplifier for >outband 11-meters... >Question: wouldn't these >operators be much more inclined to make the transition to legal, >licensed operators if the Morse requirement was eliminated? Ham radio as rehabilitation? Nowhere in 97.1 can I find as one of the reasons for the existence of the amateur service "to lure lawbreakers into legal, licensed operation". Besides, you can find extra-legal operation in many different parts of the spectrum other than 11 meters. Whatever our standards, they should exist to further and improve the amateur service, not as bait for our 11 meter friends. Mike, KK6GM From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLB103 Election results Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 17 Nov 1995 18:05:08 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 52 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlb103.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10404 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94435 SB QST @ ARL $ARLB103 ARLB103 Election results ZCZC AG70 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 103 ARLB103 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT November 17, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB103 ARLB103 Election results The ARRL Committee of Tellers for the election of directors and vice directors for the 1996 through 1997 term met at ARRL Headquarters November 17 to count ballots. Here are the results. Delta division for director: Joel Harrison, WB5IGF, 1224. Mal Keown, W5XX, 930. Lynn Lamb, W4NL, 710. Great Lakes division for director: George Race, WB8BGY, 3197. Wayne Wiltse, K8BTH, 1884. Midwest division for director: Lew Gordon, K4VX, 1595. Roger Volk, K0GOB, 1544. Great Lakes division for vice director: John Thernes, WM4T, 2992. William Coale, KB8MBJ, 2055. In each case the candidate receiving the greatest number of votes was declared elected. The following incumbents were unopposed and declared elected without balloting: Atlantic division director Hugh Turnbull, W3ABC; Dakota division director Tod Olson, K0TO; Pacific division director Brad Wyatt, K6WR; Southeastern division director Frank Butler, W4RH; Atlantic division vice director Kay Craigie, WT3P; Dakota division vice director Hans Brakob, K0HB; Delta division vice director Rick Roderick, K5UR; Midwest division vice director Bruce Frahm, K0BJ; Pacific division vice director Jim Maxwell, W6CF; and Southeastern division vice director Evelyn Gauzens, W4WYR. The terms of office are for two years, beginning at noon January 1, 1996. NNNN /EX From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:07 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1!ts1-ind-2 From: mai@iquest.net (Patrick Croft) Subject: Re: Attention ATV operators(ref. Bill Brown WB8ELK) X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ts1-ind-2.iquest.net Message-ID: Sender: news@iquest.net (News Admin) Organization: IQuest Network Services X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2.1 References: <48e5vo$1bs0@news.gate.net> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 01:01:41 GMT Lines: 17 Rick Lehman wrote: >To Amateur TV Operators: I am trying to help an active ATV ham in Wales >locate Bill Brown, WB8ELK. Apparently Bill provide this amateur a film >copy of a ballonist experiment presumably having to do with ATV.. The >Wales amateur is trying to obtain a better copy of this film in order to >help create a commercial TV program on amateur radio. The address in the >callsign data bases appears to be in error and efforts to locate Bill by >telephone opertor have not been successful so far. If you know how I can >reach Bill by mail, telephone or e-mail please let me know and respond to >the following E-mail address: rlehman@gate.net > >Thank you.. Rick WB4EJC > Rick - I think Bill may be at Red Stone (Al.) . He's assisted us in balloon launches for schools, etc. Will try to secure you hard info. Please email me a reminder if you don't get in a day or two. Also, check with PC Electronics (818)447-4565 as they market ATV stuff that Bill has designed & I'd guess they talk! 73 WB9IQI From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!symbios.com!kthompso.wichitaks.ncr.com!ken.thompson From: ken.thompson@KS.Symbios.COM (Ken Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Attention ATV operators(ref. Bill Brown WB8ELK) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 09:15:46 Organization: Symbios Logic Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <48e5vo$1bs0@news.gate.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kthompso.wichitaks.ncr.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Try: WB8ELK@delphi.com In article mai@iquest.net (Patrick Croft) writes:>From: mai@iquest.net (Patrick Croft) >Subject: Re: Attention ATV operators(ref. Bill Brown WB8ELK) >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 01:01:41 GMT >Rick Lehman wrote: >>To Amateur TV Operators: I am trying to help an active ATV ham in Wales >>locate Bill Brown, WB8ELK. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: Bomb threat Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 06:54:13 EST Message-ID: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 28 I received the following bomb threat: Burt Fisher K1OIK Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 23:33:07 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas W. Castle" To: k1oik@ccsnet.com Subject: Re: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Gee Burp... With you as a teacher, we know the new an up coming hams in your area: will be real gems... You need to ply your tactics on HF like 3945 or some really worthy freqs to spread your wisdom 3898, 3853, 3912 or 3777.5.... We sure you will go over well. You being a teacher an posting on the internet, really open up numerous possibilities... I'm sure your up to date in the address of most call books an all could put you on the X-mas mailing list of somone like the UNI-bomber...??? That could be real interesting..! -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bomb threat Date: 20 Nov 1995 01:48:02 GMT Lines: 39 Message-ID: <48omoi$t3h@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> <48ogdi$2u0@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: garyn@tir.com garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) wrote: >>I received the following bomb threat: >>Burt Fisher >>K1OIK > >Was that a surprise Fisher ? Not really. Hams do tend to threaten. >Some folks do get a bit testy at your constant CRAVING for attention. >(Caused no doubt by deep seated feelings of inadequacy or >worthlessness) Please do not judge me based on YOUR character. I have a very good self image which would be torn down if I were respected by the typical ham. >I just view you as the cybersapce version of the Village Idiot and let >it go at that, but eveidently others aren't so charitable. > >Gary >WB8POK Does it put you up to put me down? What a REAL man you must be. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bomb threat Date: 20 Nov 1995 01:49:12 GMT Lines: 39 Message-ID: <48omqo$t3h@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> <48ogdi$2u0@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: garyn@tir.com garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) wrote: >>I received the following bomb threat: >>Burt Fisher >>K1OIK > >Was that a surprise Fisher ? Not really. Hams do tend to threaten. >Some folks do get a bit testy at your constant CRAVING for attention. >(Caused no doubt by deep seated feelings of inadequacy or >worthlessness) Please do not judge me based on YOUR character. I have a very good self image which would be torn down if I were respected by the typical ham. >I just view you as the cybersapce version of the Village Idiot and let >it go at that, but eveidently others aren't so charitable. > >Gary >WB8POK Does it put you up to put me down? What a REAL man you must be. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bomb threat Date: 20 Nov 1995 01:49:46 GMT Lines: 39 Message-ID: <48omrq$t3h@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> <48ogdi$2u0@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: garyn@tir.com garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) wrote: >>I received the following bomb threat: >>Burt Fisher >>K1OIK > >Was that a surprise Fisher ? Not really. Hams do tend to threaten. >Some folks do get a bit testy at your constant CRAVING for attention. >(Caused no doubt by deep seated feelings of inadequacy or >worthlessness) Please do not judge me based on YOUR character. I have a very good self image which would be torn down if I were respected by the typical ham. >I just view you as the cybersapce version of the Village Idiot and let >it go at that, but eveidently others aren't so charitable. > >Gary >WB8POK Does it put you up to put me down? What a REAL man you must be. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:14 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!col.hp.com!news.dtc.hp.com!hplextra!hplb!hpwin055.uksr!hpqmoea!dstock From: dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) Subject: Re: Burt Fisher jokes not funny Sender: news@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com (SQF News Admin) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:52:13 GMT References: <4867e4$l55@alterdial.UU.NET> Nntp-Posting-Host: hpqmocc.sqf.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard LTD, South Queensferry, Scotland X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.8] Followup-To: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Lines: 15 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.swap:51097 rec.radio.shortwave:66148 rec.radio.scanner:40777 rec.radio.amateur.space:5765 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31900 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94399 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11612 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21470 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12651 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17158 Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) wrote: : Then why do I get frequent messages that appreciate my comments? Is this the first contact with non-human sapient entities ? Or is someone going to suggest that any message that likes Burt's humour.......... No, who would be so cruel ? Cheers, David From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:15 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher loses Amateur license Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:31:38 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 he sure did From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:16 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: Cant even make a contact on 2M Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:33:27 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 is there anybody out there? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:17 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: Legend in his own mind Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:32:43 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 yes he is From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:17 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: Not just another Stupid idiot! Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:32:12 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 ya sure about that From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:18 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: Spamming USA Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:33:50 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 The king of Spam From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:19 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: Weird Science gone wrong Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:35:11 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 he is the example From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: k1oik@ccsnet.com (Burt Fisher) Subject: Burt Fisher: World's Stupidest Amateur Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 04:30:49 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.31 Organization: Clearwater Hospital for the Mentally Challenged Lines: 1 I am I said to no one there and no one heard not even the chair From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Callsign Question? Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:55:13 GMT Organization: CFTnet Lines: 3 Message-ID: <48j0c1$afd@tech.cftnet.com> References: <466dgd$si8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft6.ppp252.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: samalfano@delphi.com The only answer to that one is when the FCC gets around to it. Jim W2GC From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.i1.net!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Community Message Traffic Handlers Needed Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:28:06 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 45 Message-ID: <48fojh$fk8@news1.inlink.com> References: <485l8n$o8f@blackice.winternet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip158.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 nacec@winternet.com (Edward Addy) wrote: >From: nacec@winternet.com (Edward Addy) >Subject: Community Message Traffic Handlers Needed >Date: 12 Nov 1995 20:25:59 GMT >Organization: N. American Cntr. for Emerg. Comms. >Message-Id: <485l8n$o8f@blackice.winternet.com> >I am looking for fellow Amateur Radio Operators that are >interested in supporting their communities with Emergency >and Military Family communications. Most Amateur Radio Clubs and Operators already perform this function on a daily basis. >Our volunteer network uses the internet as our main >intra-communications platform. Not a very reliable source of communications! In the event of a real Emergency or Disaster, I doubt if the internet will be up and running. >So if you have internet and would like to help within >your community by acting as a traffic point for your >community, I can use your help. If the internet is up, so is the telephone service, tell them to use their own 2-bits and dial the number themselves. >Please, look at our web site for more information at: > http://www.nacec.org >We are a fast growing organization and would like to >have greater Amateur Radio community participation. >Regards >Edward Addy >Executive Director >NACEC >eaddy@nacec.org Gary From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:23 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech2!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Community Message Traffic Handlers Needed Message-ID: <1995Nov18.015901.26134@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <485l8n$o8f@blackice.winternet.com> <48fojh$fk8@news1.inlink.com> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:59:01 GMT Lines: 55 In article <48fojh$fk8@news1.inlink.com> raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) writes: >nacec@winternet.com (Edward Addy) wrote: > >>I am looking for fellow Amateur Radio Operators that are >>interested in supporting their communities with Emergency >>and Military Family communications. > >Most Amateur Radio Clubs and Operators already perform this function >on a daily basis. Really? Most? Daily? The number of amateurs who are MARS, NTS, or ARES daily participants is a small fraction of one percent. >>Our volunteer network uses the internet as our main >>intra-communications platform. > >Not a very reliable source of communications! In the event of a real >Emergency or Disaster, I doubt if the internet will be up and running. Consider that the internet remained up during the California earthquakes, riots, and fires while ordinary phone service was disrupted. That won't be the case in every disaster, of course, but it has been true frequently enough to consider the internet an important disaster communications asset. This is especially true for out of area communications relay. >>So if you have internet and would like to help within >>your community by acting as a traffic point for your >>community, I can use your help. > >If the internet is up, so is the telephone service, tell them to use >their own 2-bits and dial the number themselves. See above. The leased lines of the internet often are available when the dial up network is overloaded due to a disaster, and the internet uses routing protocols that can dynamically work around downed links. Not to mention that the internet will be functioning normally outside the immediate disaster area. It's not the total communications solution, but it can unload a large fraction of long distance traffic loads from HF amateur or other volunteer communications links. Disaster communications volunteers shouldn't overlook the internet as a resource. And those supporting military families or moving traffic out of area may also find the internet a very useful tool. It's a mistake to think amateur over the air communications can carry the entire load. The over the air NTS, MARS, and ARES links are routinely overwhelmed during a communications emergency. During the California quakes, only a few thousand messages were sufficient to back up the amateur systems for days. Don't spurn another tool in our communications toolbox. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ulowell.uml.edu!vtc.tacom.army.mil!news2.acs.oakland.edu!detroit.freenet.org!detroit.freenet.org!ac224 From: ac224@detroit.freenet.org (Jim Harvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW message at Disneyland Date: 18 Nov 1995 02:57:06 GMT Organization: Greater Detroit Free-Net, Detroit, MI Lines: 29 Message-ID: <48ji22$3o2@detroit.freenet.org> References: Reply-To: ac224@detroit.freenet.org (Jim Harvey) NNTP-Posting-Host: detroit.freenet.org In a previous article, ring@porky.cb.att.com (WarrenRing) says: >Last time I was at Disneyland (a couple of years ago), I was waiting >for a train with my family at the railroad station near New Orleans >square. On the other side of the tracks, there was a replica of an >old railway station, complete with telegraph sounds eminating from it. > >My wife asked if I could understand the message, and I said No >because I had learned CW as beeps, and this was clicks. >But I listened closely, and I couldn't make heads or tails of the >message. It almost sounded like random characters, at around 20 >WPM. I just figured my mind wasn't into CW while at D-land. >Maybe it was continental Morse, instead of international Morse. > >I was wondering if anyone else has tried to pick out the message. > It may have been in real Morse code, not the "International" code now in use. When I hired into the Phone Company in 1970 there were still a number of guys around who could send and receive Morse code. One would even copy solid if the two were mixed. There are more than dots and dashes, there are long dashes and the code set is quite different. > -- Jim Harvey - WB8NBS - 18538 Inkster - Redford, Mich. 48240 Amiga Person ac224@detroit.freenet.org | James.B.Harvey@x400gw.ameritech.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc126.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 01:13:08 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: okc126.icon.net Summary: How does U.S. Military teach code Keywords: CW Morse Training Instruction X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] scottwh@netcom.com (Walter Scott) writes: >The U.S. Army, Navy, etc. have code schools for teaching Morse code. >Is anyone familiar with these training programs? >How long do they take for X words/min proficiency? >What methods do they use for code instruction? >How many hours a day, etc.? >There might be some information here that would help us learn code. When I was going to radar repair school at Keesler in 1972, we had a bunch of "ditty-bop" (not derogatory) students in our squadron. They went through very fast. They used to make me mad because they wouldn't even be passing local water before being shipped out. I do recall one guy having trouble because his typing wasn't good. I think they phased him back to typing and then he returned back to code. I never heard of anyone flunking out, but I'm sure there was. If you flunked out, they made you an Air Policeman, so there was an incentive to learn! ha. This doesn't come close to answering your question, but brought back some old memories... From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!usenet From: Karl Oyster Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 19 Nov 1995 13:18:02 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 61 Message-ID: <48naqa$vbu@news.infi.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: h-addend.norfolk.infi.net scottwh@netcom.com (Walter Scott) wrote: > > The U.S. Army, Navy, etc. have code schools for teaching Morse code. > > Is anyone familiar with these training programs? > How long do they take for X words/min proficiency? > I learned CW in the Navy in 1971 at Pensacola, Fl. We went from no code whatever to 35wpm with random blocks of letters and 40 wpm random blocks of numbers in about four and one-half months, working from 7:00 am to noon and 1:00 pm to 4:30 pm five days per week, and then two hours of mandatory "night school" each evening and on Saturday. While I was there they introduced a computer-focused learning system to teach the code. It increased the speed at which people learned the code, but when those people were then exposed to recorded tapes of real people sending code, they had a great deal of difficulty in copying. Seems the perfect code with no static or other noise, as sent by the computer, was a little different than trying to copy the real McCoy! To my knowledge, that school ones like it for the Army and Air Force still exist. The Navy has not taught radiomen CW for about ten years or so now, and I don't know of other schools which teach sending CW in the military. You can figure that one out for yourself. In regard to the gent who was a Keesler AFB and the "ditty-bops" left before "passing local water," I would suggest that this was pretty unusual. In the front of the room where I heard my first "official" CW (sent by a crusty old Warrant Officer, with a hand-key at about 5 WPM, with everybody yelling out, "ALFA!") there was a sign about six feet wide and a foot high with bright, red letters. It stated, in usual Navy brevity: YOU FAIL, YOU SAIL. Word was that if you flunked out (and about 40% did, by the way), you were issued a paint chipping hammer on the way out the gate. To graduate from the school you had to copy CW pretty well. They sent a block of fifty five-leter (or five-number) groups. They substacted two points for each incorrectly copied letter/number, and one point for each missed character (represented by a period on the your paper in the correct spot). Passing was 85 "percent" but if you incorrectly copied eight letters/numbers out of 250, you failed. That works out to a passing score of more than 97%, if my math is right (which is anything but a "sure" thing!). When we left school and went to our first duty station, the first thing we were taught to do was "really learn how to copy CW accurately and at some reasonable speed." In my case that meant about 45-50 WPM on HF circuits with no errors. Never quite got to the point I could copy with no errors, but I could stand for the CT program to work at above 50 WPM in the contests!! Long, drawn out response, but it brought back a lot of memories for me, too!! Karl, NQ1W From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!lehi.kuentos.guam.net!saba.kuentos.guam.net!rkenner From: rkenner@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Rick H. Kennerly) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 20 Nov 1995 15:05:42 GMT Organization: Kuentos Communications Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <48q5g6$obv@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <48naqa$vbu@news.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: saba.kuentos.guam.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Well, I was in the Army Security Agency (worked those "secret overseas listiening posts" Jack Andersen is always writing about). We had a 10 week basic morse code school at Ft. Devens, MA, and had a particular code speed you had to make every week. If you missed your speed twice in a row, they called you out of Friday afternoon formation and sent you down the road to the infatry batallion. I had no problem cranking out 30 wpm, but I think the required was about 24 to graduate. Didn't keep me out of Viet Nam, but it did keep me out of the bush. Rick - NH2F From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!simtel!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!ron From: ron@fc.hp.com (Ron Miller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 21 Nov 1995 15:05:26 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48sprm$goa@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <48qdbj$ahi@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <816948909.21343snx@genes.pl.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: ux1169.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1.4] Eugene Kang (wired@genes.pl.my) wrote: : In article <48qdbj$ahi@fcnews.fc.hp.com> ron@fc.hp.com writes: : >The only people who could do code were myself and a QMCS - both of : >us were hams. (We discovered this fact one day during drills when : >I called CQ with the mic button on the sound-powered phones.) : um, what's a sound-powered phone? It's the headset and chest microphone you see in so many of the films from WWII when they show the Navy at work repelling kamikaze attacks. The system is basically passive and extremely reliable for internal ship comms. (which is why it is still in use today) Basically I was using background noise as the carrier which I modulated with my mic button. Ron From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.zynet.com!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!news.ttu.edu!medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu!cortex!william From: william@cortex (William Biggs) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Disney World Repeater PL ? Date: 19 Nov 1995 06:41:24 GMT Organization: Texas Tech University HSC Amarillo Lines: 31 Message-ID: <48mjik$h1j@medulla.ama.ttuhsc.edu> References: <4823uu$3hf@cc.iu.net> <48332e$cgb@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Rick H. Kennerly (rkenner@saba.kuentos.guam.net) wrote: : I enjoyed several late night chats on the WDW repeater, mostly park : employees. We were staying in the Wilderness trailers (a nice enough : experience, but I'll be back on the monorail line next time) and even had : some of the roadwarriors over in the airstream trailer park stop by. : However, there is no need for a n HT in the parks and, as the previous : poster mentioned, it just weighs you down. Go & enjoy the magic. : Rick - NH2F IMHO, having a 11 year old son licensed (KC5JIE) and a lightweight HT was incredibly useful. We were able to let him run around in large crowds at Disneyland without losing track of him. It helped coordinate which rides, meals, etc. we were going to do and when. We used miniature lapel mikes, about the size of a lima bean, and $1 walkman type stereo headsets. The HT's were in a little pouch and were unobtrusive and hidden from view except the antenna (and relatively resistant to water splashes....). We didn't really look to make any other contacts, although when we did talk, other visitors would call us to chat. If we were just standing in a line that wasn't a problem, but sometimes we'd be preoccupied with the fun and we'd cut the QSO's short. -- William C. Biggs , MD KC5JIF Howdy from the High Plains of Texas 1900 South Coulter Drive Amarillo, TX 79106 From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!nntp.crl.com!crl6.crl.com!not-for-mail From: arthurc@crl.com (Arthur Chandler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: EME / Moonbounce Date: 16 Nov 1995 21:20:56 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Lines: 7 Message-ID: <48h63o$qgk@crl6.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crl6.crl.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Can anyone here help put me in touch with individuals or organizations that are involved with EME/Moonbounce? Thanks! -- Arthur KO6OA ** Request also cross-posted to rec.radio.amateur.space ** From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!simtel!news.kei.com!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!uniserve!news.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!sparky!nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us!usenet From: mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FAQ for "Q" codes? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 23:58:02 GMT Organization: AG0N's Radio Ranch Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48gj54$59r@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> <48dpan$bjt@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.206.239.251 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.112 On 15 Nov 1995 17:24:23 -0500, gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) wrote: >Anybody got a good reference that is reasonably accessible, even if it >isn't on the net or by e-mail? >Gerry K8EF My favorite is an old Air Force Q signal that I use at least a couple of times every night while on 75 with the gang. It is QAU (I'm going to jetison fuel). Enjoy _____ _____ _____ ___ _____ | __|___ ___ _ _ ___ | _ | __| | | | | | | .'| _| | | |___| | | | | | | | | | |_____|__,|_| |_ | |__|__|_____|___|_|___| |___| mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:34 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!news3.noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!jangus From: jangus@netcom.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) Subject: Re: FAQ for "Q" codes? Message-ID: Organization: Grendel's Lair References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> <48d2lb$2nn@hg.oro.net> <48dpv3$raf@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 19:12:12 GMT Lines: 22 Sender: jangus@netcom4.netcom.com I'm going to be lazy and trim all the attributes out. >> >>QLF -- Now try sending code with your Left Foot. Well, my personal favorite is QKS? and QKS x/y. How many knobs and switches on your radio? My radio has 65 knobs and switches, but I only understand 3 of them. And for the old timers out there, QBS for please clean the birdshit off of your antenna. And of course, for field day after a few too many cold 802's; QPP. 73 es GM from Jeff -- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "It is difficult to imagine our Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | universe run by a single omni- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | potent god. I see it more as a Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | badly run corporation." From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:35 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!wanda.pond.com!kd3bj!kd3bj.ampr.org!robert From: robert@kd3bj.ampr.org (Robert E. Garland) Subject: Re: FAQ for "Q" codes? Sender: usenet@kd3bj.ampr.org (News Posting Phantom User) Organization: The KD3BJ Usenet BBS Message-ID: References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> <48d2lb$2nn@hg.oro.net> X-Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.kd3bj.ampr.org Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 04:30:19 GMT Lines: 38 rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) writes: >Gary Watts wrote: >>You see I have to compile and print a list to decipher what the >>REAL Ham Radio Operators are talking about while they >>are on FM !!!! >Gary -- >Wouldn't it be a gas to see what humorous definitions we could come up >with for the Q-sigs? >I'll start it off: >QLF -- Now try sending code with your Left Foot. >Jim >Jim Weir VP Engineering | "We seem to be standing on >RST Engineering | the foreskin of technology." >Grass Valley CA 95945 | (Gen Chuck Yeager) >voice/fax 916/272-1432 | >rst-engr@oro.net AR Adv WB6BHI CFI A&G/Comml Inst A&G/A&P/C-182A N73CQ QLF? -- Are you [really] sending with your left foot? QTE -- My true bearing from you is ... QTE? -- What is my true bearing from you? In response to your signature line --- OUCH! From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gumby!newsserv.grfn.org!pm046-21.dialip.mich.net!user From: matt@grfn.org (Matt Overholt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FCC shutdown Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 13:37:56 -0500 Organization: Grand Rapids Free-Net Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pm046-21.dialip.mich.net I was wondering if anyone is having the same trouble I am having. I passed my no-code technician tests Nov. 13, I should have my callsign by now, but since the goverment sent home all non-essential workers(included the ones at the FCC who process applications.). I dont know when I will get my callsign. I really doubt I'll get it this year. Is anyone else having troubles with the FCC during the shutdown? Matt Overholt matt@grfn.org -- Matt Overholt From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-ulm.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!nntp.gmd.de!news.ege.edu.tr!news.metu.edu.tr!zambak.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr!edirne!madeno From: Alper MADENOGLU Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FM frequency spacing Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 18:34:38 +0300 Organization: Bilkent University Lines: 10 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: edirne.bcc.bilkent.edu.tr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know anything about frequeny spacing differences or any differences between the US and the European FM broadcasts. My main concern is buying a car audio from US and using it in the Europe some dealer said that some models of the Pioneer car audio wont work well in Europe because of the FM tuner? any comments? thanx Alper Madenoglu. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!paladin.american.edu!gatech2!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FM frequency spacing Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 18:29:43 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 28 Message-ID: <816632983snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article madeno@edirne "Alper MADENOGLU" writes: > Does anybody know anything about frequeny spacing differences or any > differences between the US and the European FM broadcasts. My main > concern is buying a car audio from US and using it in the Europe some > dealer said that some models of the Pioneer car audio wont work well in > Europe because of the FM tuner? any comments? In the UK, broadcasts can be on virtually any frequency ending at either a 100kHz or 50 kHz boundary. ISTR that most US spec tuners move in 200kHz steps on the odd 100 kHz boundary, so your dealer is giving you very good guidance. The stereo sub-carrier is the same. Also there are a number of non-essential advanced digital features available with most European f.m. radio broadcasts related to following networks and also finding taffic news reports, and these require European spec models to enjoy. Maybe a small portable receiver like a Sony ICF-7600G or ICF-SW55 would be better to use both on a European car journey and also still be useful at home. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:39 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: FM frequency spacing Message-ID: <1995Nov18.024937.26697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:49:37 GMT Lines: 28 In article Alper MADENOGLU writes: >Does anybody know anything about frequeny spacing differences or any >differences between the US and the European FM broadcasts. My main >concern is buying a car audio from US and using it in the Europe some >dealer said that some models of the Pioneer car audio wont work well in >Europe because of the FM tuner? any comments? Gee, an honest dealer, hang on to him. The dealer is right. US Standard Broadcast is on 10 kHz channels, European Standard Broadcast is on 9 kHz channels, so the radio won't work right for AM. And on FM Broadcast, US stations operate on 200 kHz channels set on odd 100 kHz boundaries, IE 96.1, 96.3, 96.5, etc. In Europe, FM stations may appear on any 50 kHz boundary, so the US tuner won't be able to tune them properly. In the days of analog tuners, this didn't matter, but with the near universal use of digital synthesizers in car radios today, it does matter now. Now some Japanese and European import radios sold in the US market can be modified (often just a keypress combination or a zero ohm jumper change, like with our amateur radios) to work with the European band plan, but others can't. If you aren't sure the radio you are considering has this ability, don't buy it for use in Europe. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dpc.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.westnet.com!port4.ts2.westnet.com!kb2rkx From: kb2rkx@westnet.com (Wm. H. Brakman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: freq change for MRC 765 model airplaneradio Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 10:36:10 EST Organization: WestNet Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port4.ts2.westnet.com Summary: need help to use mrc-765 in ham band Keywords: ham mrc mods X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Help needed. I have a MRC-765 model aircraft radio that I would like to use. It is circa 1976 and opperates on 72.160mhz. I understand that in the early 1990's the FCC changed the specs for model radios. Can anyone tell me what this change means to my radio? I have a schmatic for both the Tx & Rx. I would like to know if I can simply change crystals to a current channel or should I try to move the frequency into the 6-meter ham band since I am a lisenced amateur radio opperator. Thanks for any and all help. Hank kb2rkx@westnet.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!swiss.ans.net!lehi.kuentos.guam.net!saba.kuentos.guam.net!norman From: norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Fusing Power Leads Date: 17 Nov 1995 22:46:56 GMT Organization: Kuentos Communications Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: saba.kuentos.guam.net Summary: Why fuse both DC power leads in Mobile Installations? Keywords: Ham Fuse Mobile Power DC X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have noticed that almost all installations of mobile radio gear tell you to fuse both the Pos and the Neg lead going to the battery. Two questions: 1. Why both leads? Most (if not all) cars are neg ground anyway. What protection does this offer when the pos is fused? 2. If the equipment draws 18A max, what fuse should I choose? I assume that I would choose a slow-blow type and I'm guessing about a 10-12 A fuse in each lead? Thank for your advice. Please forgive me if this is a silly question and I appreciate your patience. Regards Norm From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!paladin.american.edu!gatech2!sdd.hp.com!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Date: 18 Nov 1995 02:02:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 40 Message-ID: <48jesa$mm1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Keywords: Ham Fuse Mobile Power DC In article <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net>, Norm Collins wrote: >1. Why both leads? Most (if not all) cars are neg ground > anyway. What protection does this offer when the pos is > fused? The positive fuse will protect the positive side of the feed (fuse should be as close to the power source as possible). If this lead comes in contact with any "ground" down stream, it will blow the fuse rather than short, and possibly catch fire. The negitive side acts the same way...think for a moment if your neg lead was not fused, and came into contact with a positive source (unfused), the wire(s) would short, and continue to do so, resulting in damage and/or fire. >2. If the equipment draws 18A max, what fuse should I choose? > I assume that I would choose a slow-blow type and I'm guessing > about a 10-12 A fuse in each lead? With the newer transistorized equipment, I would not reccommend a "slo- blow". Faster response here is crucial to protect the equipment. If you put in anything lower than the max draw, the fuse will blow when the device is at max draw. If the device's draw is 18 amps max (consider peak too!), a 20 amp fuse would be recommended. >Thank for your advice. Please forgive me if this is a silly >question and I appreciate your patience. My father always said, "There no such thing as a dumb question...if you dont know the answer." With that, theres no such thing as a 'silly' question. :) -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:44 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!newsfeed.internetmci.com!gatech2!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Message-ID: <1995Nov18.023431.26477@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Keywords: Ham Fuse Mobile Power DC Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 02:34:31 GMT Lines: 58 In article <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) writes: >I have noticed that almost all installations of mobile radio >gear tell you to fuse both the Pos and the Neg lead going to >the battery. Two questions: > >1. Why both leads? Most (if not all) cars are neg ground > anyway. What protection does this offer when the pos is > fused? The negative lead fuse is there because the battery frame strap can corrode or fall off. If this happens, full starter current, 200+ amps, will try to flow through your radio wiring negative lead, through your radio, and on to a body ground connection at your antenna. The radio wiring, and the circuit board traces in the radio, can't handle this current, so a fire, or at least radio damage, is a likely result. In a typical modern amateur radio, the negative lead isn't connected directly to the radio chassis. Instead it connects to a circuit board trace internally. That may eventually find its way to case via the output coax connector, or it may not, depending on the particular radio design, but for sure the full current is going to attempt to flow through at least part of the radio's circuit board printed wiring to find its way to body ground. And BTW, the reason you want to run a negative lead to the battery at all instead of just using a convienent body ground for the negative current return is that this latter method creates a ground loop. The negative lead will be elevated by the IR drops of all other current consuming loads on the auto which use a body return, and that will modulate what the radio sees as its ground reference. This will induce various electrical noises and spikes into your sensitive radio circuitry. By running negative direct to the battery, this potential ground loop is short circuited. >2. If the equipment draws 18A max, what fuse should I choose? > I assume that I would choose a slow-blow type and I'm guessing > about a 10-12 A fuse in each lead? Kirchhoff's law says the same current flows around the entire mesh, so you need fuses sized for the total current draw of the radio. For an 18A draw, a 20 amp fuse in each of the hot and negative leads would be appropriate. The fuses are effectively in series for the current loop, not in parallel, so each has to be rated for the full current draw. Slow blow types are not required. The circuit board traces in your radio aren't slow blow, so neither should be the fuse. (If the radio has a high peak to average current draw, say it's a SSB transceiver, then you may want to use a slow blow fuse rated for the *average* current draw and depend on the slow blow feature to handle the momentary voice peaks. Consult your radio's documentation for the recomended fuse.) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:45 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!news.consultix.com!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 17:43:25 GMT Lines: 36 In article <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net>, norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) wrote: >I have noticed that almost all installations of mobile radio >gear tell you to fuse both the Pos and the Neg lead going to >the battery. Two questions: > >1. Why both leads? Most (if not all) cars are neg ground > anyway. What protection does this offer when the pos is > fused? > >2. If the equipment draws 18A max, what fuse should I choose? > I assume that I would choose a slow-blow type and I'm guessing > about a 10-12 A fuse in each lead? ----------------------------------------------------------------- The reason for a fuse in the negative lead is that if the ground connection from the battery to the car chassis were to become open or intermittent, the starter motor would try to draw current through the ground to your radio via your coax back to the antenna. I've seen pictures of what several hundred amps can do to a radio, and it ain't pretty!! If you draw out the schematic it will become clear where the current paths are. Actually, there's a better way to protect your radio, and that's to install a capacitor in the lead connecting the braid of your coax to the car's chassis. That way, you don't have to depend on a fuse blowing -- the starter current simply won't flow in the first place. A .01 uF disc ceramic should do the job at most ham frequencies. Also, DON'T add a separate ground wire from your radio to the car chassis, unless you use the capacitor there, too. As for the size of fuse, if the 18 amp max draw is intermittent (SSB or CW), I'd use a 20 amp fast blow fuse. If it's continuous (AM or FM) I'd use a 20 amp slow blow type. If you experience fuse blowing for no apparent reason, go up 5 amps. 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:46 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp-hub2.barrnet.net!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!n1ist From: n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Message-ID: Keywords: Ham Fuse Mobile Power DC Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 01:36:57 GMT Lines: 28 Sender: n1ist@netcom5.netcom.com In article <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) writes: -I have noticed that almost all installations of mobile radio -gear tell you to fuse both the Pos and the Neg lead going to -the battery. Two questions: - -1. Why both leads? Most (if not all) cars are neg ground - anyway. What protection does this offer when the pos is - fused? It is to prevent a problem if the cable from the negative of the battery to the vehicle body opens. If that happens, all current, including the heavy starter current would flow thru the radio and it's cables, causing damage and a possible fire. The circuit would be: Bat + --- starter --- car body --- radio chassis via mounting screws or antenna coax braid --- negative wire --- fuse --- Bat - With the fuse there, hopefully it will blow before the radio... The fuse in the positive lead is, of course, to protect against shorts either in the radio or the postive lead itself (iw. where it passes thru the firewall) /mike -- \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST Teradyne ATB, Boston MA -*- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- /|\ ardai@maven.dnet.teradyne.com n1ist@netcom.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ionews.ionet.net!usenet From: jforest@ionet.net (jim forest) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Date: 20 Nov 1995 18:36:33 GMT Organization: IONet Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48qhrh$o3f@ionews.ionet.net> References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsip35.ionet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Keywords: Ham Fuse Mobile Power DC X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 snip > >It is to prevent a problem if the cable from the negative of the battery >to the vehicle body opens. If that happens, all current, including the >heavy starter current would flow thru the radio and it's cables, causing >damage and a possible fire. The circuit would be: > >Bat + --- starter --- car body --- radio chassis via mounting screws or >antenna coax braid --- negative wire --- fuse --- Bat - > snip if the negative cable opens hows the starter motor going to pull current with out a completed current loop? my 2 peso worth jim From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ionews.ionet.net!usenet From: jforest@ionet.net (jim forest) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Date: 21 Nov 1995 20:42:54 GMT Organization: IONet Lines: 27 Message-ID: <48tdke$em9@ionews.ionet.net> References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <48qhrh$o3f@ionews.ionet.net> <48qns0$3dg@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsip31.ionet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 snip > >If the radio is wired directly to the battery and the battery's neg. >cable opens, the NEW return path is through the moutning bracket of >the radio or from the shield of the antenna to the radio and back to >the battery via the radio's skinny little power lead . It's a huge >draw even in warm climes, during a cold winter start the starter might >attemp to draw upwards of 1000 amps through this "backup" of the >battery's negative lead. > >Gary >-- snip agreed. i was trying to stimulate the conversation for a more complete answer. the above answer is why on all my vehicles i ground the main negative battery lead to either 1. the engine block or 2. the mounting bracket that holds the alternator to the engine block (not the alternator frame!). i perfer method #2, this ensures that i will not have voltage sensing problems between the alternator and the battery. it always seems that the engine block method always has dirt,grease,paint etc between the negative lead and the block, same thing applies for body or frame attchments. any comments? jim From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.nevada.edu!silver.scs.unr.edu!news.unr.edu!usenet From: "Luis B.R." Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm Subject: Get us off "ham" thread, please Date: 17 Nov 1995 21:39:50 GMT Organization: Univ. of Nevada-Reno Lines: 41 Message-ID: <48ivf6$2pv@umbra.unr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.197.32.134 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; 68K) To: asource@ix.netcom.com X-URL: news:485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52170 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12668 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21504 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11624 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94419 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31914 rec.radio.amateur.space:5771 rec.radio.cb:24499 rec.radio.noncomm:4991 asource@ix.netcom.com (InterSource ) wrote: >In <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> Burt Fisher writes: > >> >>I said: "I have a VIC 20 I want to trade for a IC-781" (how long do we >>have read thesre messages where some ham wants to trade his junk for >>something woth something). >> >> >>From: KH2KQ@KA6EYH.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM >>To : K1OIK@KQ1K.MA.USA.NA > > >Burt there is a Salvation Army Thrift Store in Thornton Colorado (on >Washington Blvd.) that as of last week, had a box with 4 Vic 20's for >sale for $10 --- is that a hint ???? --- surely you were not serious >about that type of trade or was it a typo.> {snippage} Would you PLEASE remove rec.skiing.alpine from your posting header for this thread. We've been trying to remove this thread for a fe= w days now. We greatly appreciate it. Thank you in advance. Your friends at rec.skiing.alpine From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!mayonews.mayo.edu!newsdist.tc.umn.edu!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!pravda.aa.msen.com!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!psinntp!jeefers.microdes.com!usenet From: Dave Hand Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: GPS Mapping software for laptop? Date: 15 Nov 1995 22:37:50 GMT Organization: Micro Design International, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <48dq3u$m49@jeefers.microdes.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dhand.microdes.com I am looking for GPS moving map software the I can run on a laptop any sugestions??? Dave Hand WB4HYP dhand @ microdes.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.scott.net!acara.snsnet.net!HiWAAY.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!ablecom!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hamradio Clip art?? Date: 20 Nov 1995 03:03:28 GMT Organization: CFTnet Lines: 6 Message-ID: <48or60$dsq@tech.cftnet.com> References: <48m66g$ofq@hihat.mwci.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft6.ppp252.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: kb0lcj@mwci.net I have about 20 of them but you can download them no problem. Go into some ham related ftp and check the files. Go via ftp sites on the QRZ page to the Buffalo server and look at the files. You should have no trouble. Jim W2GC From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!ulowell.uml.edu!vtc.tacom.army.mil!news2.acs.oakland.edu!detroit.freenet.org!detroit.freenet.org!aa024 From: aa024@detroit.freenet.org (Kenneth Vito Zichi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Hams please read .... Date: 18 Nov 1995 20:10:55 GMT Organization: Greater Detroit Free-Net, Detroit, MI Lines: 18 Message-ID: <48lekf$b9k@detroit.freenet.org> Reply-To: aa024@detroit.freenet.org (Kenneth Vito Zichi) NNTP-Posting-Host: detroit.freenet.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17204 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12685 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21533 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11646 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94464 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31941 rec.radio.amateur.space:5780 rec.radio.cb:24521 rec.radio.noncomm:4995 rec.radio.scanner:40863 rec.radio.swap:51239 If you guys want to spam all the rec radio amateur gorups I couldn't care less but why the H*ll are these stupid ham debate posts spilling into the shortwave, scanner and puzzles (among others) groups. Watch the reply lines guys. One spam is bad enough but when you all reply to all the groups it is just plain RUDE. Leave the rest of us in peace -- and if your must spam, do it via e-mail to the original poster and again, leave the rest of us in peace. Thanks for letting me rant. 73 //kvz -- kv zichi, aa024@detroit.freenet.org (PGP Public Key Available on Request) "Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrante" --Dante Kind of appropriate for the Internet, eh? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!xmission!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu!isnews.csc.calpoly.edu!hertz.elee.calpoly.edu!ceustaqu From: Cal Eustaquio Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Hams please read .... Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 07:49:12 -0800 Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <48lekf$b9k@detroit.freenet.org> <48rbap$2um@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hertz.elee.calpoly.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: ceustaqu In-Reply-To: <48rbap$2um@maureen.teleport.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17240 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12714 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21584 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11671 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94545 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31964 rec.radio.amateur.space:5792 rec.radio.cb:24562 rec.radio.noncomm:4997 rec.radio.scanner:40938 rec.radio.swap:51380 Dan: One meaning may be for "Society for the Presevation of Amplitude Modulation." Otherwise, its a generic term for a meat product that was invented during WW2 that is still put out in the market by Hormel (I think). On 21 Nov 1995, Daniel Calzaretta wrote: > I'm new to this. What does "spam" mean? Is it Italian or Latin for > something? > > > From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!keith From: keith@fc.hp.com (John Keith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help locating source of Texas Instruments components Date: 18 Nov 1995 14:45:46 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site Lines: 9 Message-ID: <48kriq$d8e@fcnews.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: moe.fc.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1.4] I am trying to locate a source for what I think are some components made by Texas Instruments. The manufacturer's part numbers are TIL-32 (which is an LED) and TIL-78 (which is a phototransistor). Could someone direct me to a catalogue/electronics supplier that might have these parts? Thanks for your help! -- John Keith keith@fc.hp.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: GPTC26A@prodigy.com (Larry Lockhart) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: help with htx-100 Date: 18 Nov 1995 12:21:32 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48kj4c$1lq8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: <48d3op$hkm@mycroft.westnet.com> <48fpkf$fk8@news1.inlink.com> <48j1vg$n2o@news1.inlink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap3.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 While we are on the subject of the HTX-100 I need help on a radio I bought here on the rec.radio.swap section. Maybe this is a common problem that others have seen but I am not familiar with the radio. The radio's volume cranks up VERY LOUD with only a quarter turn of the volume control and the rf gain pot. It makes it almost unbearable to listen to. Any thoughts, comments, suggestions? 73's de KC5NVY From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!news.westnet.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: help with htx-100 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:26:20 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 23 Message-ID: <48j1vg$n2o@news1.inlink.com> References: <48d3op$hkm@mycroft.westnet.com> <48fpkf$fk8@news1.inlink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip28.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 >Hi Gary! > I was trying to enhance the audio responce of the mic. I work ground wave >alot in Detroit and people always were able to guess which type of radio that >I was using based on the way it sounded. I got the mod off of an article by >KF2AT & KB2JPD Thanks Hank I forgot about that little anomoly. I acquired an old precompressor unit from a hamfest several years ago. It was designed probably for Chicken Band operators but I started using it on the HTX100 so long ago I almost forgot about it. Now that you have jogged my memory, audio was the pits! Astatic makes a great mike also that has enough room to include the scan buttons if you use them, the performs great on the HTX100. I hope someone can help you with your reset problem. Gary - KG0ZP From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!news.Cerritos.edu!newshub.csu.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!usenet From: Jeff Bruck Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: How Do I find A test In San Diego Date: 17 Nov 1995 04:50:57 GMT Organization: San Diego State University Lines: 9 Message-ID: <48h4bh$ltf@hole.sdsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: annex2p28.sdsu.edu I am trying to find out when the next amateur test is, in San Diego. Is there a listing of tests and times somewhere? Is there a local club that someone could recomend to me that could help me out! Any Info would be appreciated. Jeff bruck@mail.sdsu.edu From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!news.worldlinx.com!news From: Danny Bélisle Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: IC-2GXAT MODIF Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 10:04:18 -0800 Organization: WorldLinx Telecommunications Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <30AF71A2.5959@rocler.qc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: p53.rocler.qc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 16bit) Hello, My name is Danny Bélisle ( VE2 DKA ), from Québec, Canada, and i would like the modification for my IC-2GXAT. IF you have it, please send me at: dbelisle@rocler.qc.ca Thank you very much !!! From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:22:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: Rich Weinkauf Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: IC-706: what's best 2m/6m mobile antenna? Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 17:36:35 -0800 Organization: Parke-Davis Research/Clinical Database Systems Lines: 29 Message-ID: <30B12D23.499@aa.wl.com> References: <48ain6$or6@rdsunx.crd.ge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dd74-173.compuserve.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2a (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21578 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94533 John A. Sutliff wrote: > Is there a single antenna that will allow both 2 and 6 > meter operation ( I know I'll need a duplexer to connect to both > <60Mhz and>60Mhz antenna ports) with "acceptable" SWR? > I've been using the Comet CA-HV antenna with my IC-706 mobile installation. Comet makes a duplexer that splits <60MHz and 126-460MHz that mates beautifully with the 706 and the CA-HV. The CA-HV simultaneously covers 2m, 6m, and up to two of the following bands: 40m, 20m, 15m, 10m. The 20m resonator is extra. I have mine setup to cover 2m, 6m, 40m and 10m. If you are asking about a fixed station antenna, I am considering the GAP Titan-III. Gap makes a few antennas that cover HF and up into VHF. -- Rich Weinkauf, N8QLT http://www.geopages.com/SunsetStrip/1338/ weinkar@aa.wl.com ------------------------------------------------- "Waiter, would you serve the nuts... I mean, would you serve the guests the nuts?" --Nora Charles, "The Thin Man" (I don't speak for my company, my leash isn't that long) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: IC706 Date: 17 Nov 1995 16:30:43 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48idbj$10hq@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <483q96$190g@chnews.ch.intel.com> <48aeeh$1n21@chnews.ch.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17171 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21497 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94413 uk.radio.amateur:9199 In article , Karl Beckman wrote: >The IC706 does NOT meet the FCC's technical requirements >and is not permitted by ANRC. I assume my friend will transmit only during emergencies, which is legal and permitted by ANRC. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:01 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!netcom11!faunt From: faunt@netcom11.netcom.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604) Subject: Re: IC706 In-Reply-To: manfred.lange@hamburg.netsurf.de's message of Sat, 18 Nov 1995 22:12:37 GMT Message-ID: Sender: faunt@netcom11.netcom.com Organization: at home, in Oakland References: <47n930$a3k$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> <1995Nov9.181811.7781@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <48li87$21o@trance.isys.net> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 00:30:33 GMT Lines: 4 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17213 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21545 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94485 uk.radio.amateur:9222 I'm slightly disappointed with the specs of the IC706. Why didn't they include a synchronous detector for SWLing? That'd be rather more useful in a mobile environment than the WBFM coverage. 73, doug From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:02 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!wb3ffv!usenet From: hturn@pelican.davlin.net (Henry Turner) Subject: Icom 820H mods needed Sender: usenet@abs.net Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 19:30:14 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ip110.davlin.net Organization: ABSnet Internet Services, Inc. - info@abs.net - (410)-361-8160 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Lines: 7 Hello everyone. I am looking for any Icom 820H mods or info. Any response will be gladly apprecieted thanks From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim English) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Identify batteries Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:17:12 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48l0t7$55g@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <9511071514.AA00907@tix.timeplex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an23.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Perhaps gel cells from a large UPS system ? taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) wrote: >I have two 12V 40 AH batteries that appear to some type of >storage battery that I can't identify as to type. They are slightly >smaller than a conventional car battery, yellow case with a black top. >The only markings on the side are "Choride Power" . They have what >appear to be nickel plated large terminals. They are also sealed, >with no vents and are very heavy for their size. I've checked in the >engineering manuals and EEM and I can't seem to ID the vendor nor the >type of cells. The only chloride variety that I could find is a zinc >chloride which is a primary battery, not a storage type. I'm assumming >that these are storage batteries, maybe aircraft type. Any ideas ? Tim (time@tir.com) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:03 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!miwok!news.scruz.net!cruzio!pine222 From: davew@cruzio.com (David Wells) Subject: Re: Is it possible to send mail from Internet to packet net Organization: cruzio Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 20:42:16 GMT Message-ID: X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #2 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pine222.cruzio.com Keywords: internet, packet net References: <48es9k$789@news.wco.com> Sender: news@cruzio.com (The News UID) Lines: 19 tiijahar@dsp.com wrote: >My friend in Finland reads packet net mail/news. Is it possible to send >mail from Internet to packet net? I mean is there any mail gateway of >any kind in the world? > >How much I have to know about my friend's packet net address or >radio amateur callname? I just know the real name :( > >Sorry, don't know much about radio amateur stuff but you are the >experts to give me an answer. > >Thanks, Harri >tiijahar@dsp.com Checkout the IDRA web page at http://www.iea.com/~adrs. And yes it is possible. Dave KD6TO From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: "James A. Storm" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is it possible to send mail from Internet to packet net Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 18:15:53 -0800 Organization: Netcom Lines: 4 Message-ID: <30AFE4D9.4D47@ix.netcom.com> References: <48es9k$789@news.wco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sf6-05.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Nov 19 6:15:49 PM PST 1995 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2a (Windows; I; 16bit) It is possible to send mail from Internet to packet and there are many servers. Problem is, you must be an amateur radio operator to do so. Jim WB6LWS From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:05 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!online!online1!johnl From: johnl@magnus1.com (John Lamartina) Subject: Re: Is the Extra Class written really easer than the advanced Organization: Magnus Online Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 00:19:31 GMT Message-ID: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] X-Nntp-Posting-Host: online1.magnus1.com References: <475tmr$51h@mark.ucdavis.edu> <47e6cn$i09@vivanews.vivanet.com> Sender: usenet@online.magnus1.com (Usenet) Lines: 4 kevin r. "sonny" manos (johnny99@delphi.com) wrote: : i didn't take the advanced and extra at the same time, but i aced the extra : whereas i missed a few on the advanced. overall i found the extra to be : easier for the same amount of preparation. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.inc.net!news.uoregon.edu!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!narc From: narc@teleport.com (nunnya) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: LETS JAM!!!!fcc by by Date: 20 Nov 1995 02:45:47 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <48oq4r$rui@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: linda.teleport.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hey, now is your chance..... for all you wimps that want to jam, but though the fcc might actually catch you, well they been gone for a week now. so jam your little harts out! o,some rules in the AA7UP jammimg hand book..... 1= AJM, " always jam mobile " 2= use a seperate reciever to see if you are making it over them 3= maximum power output 4= make sure you scan the simplex area when doing so, these dumb ass bunny hunters will actually cordinate on the same band you r jamming.. "dont you brent" he he, have fun folks!!!!!!!! JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JEFF From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: DPDM52B@prodigy.com (Alan Fletcher) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: MODS FOR HTX-202??? Date: 19 Nov 1995 21:48:25 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 3 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48o8n9$6ve@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap5.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Does anyone know of any modifications for the rs HTX-202 handie for out of band receive or xmit? Thanks for any info. Alan N1UJU From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.funet.fi!news.csc.fi!vyh.fi!raateland From: raateland@vyh.fi (Arjen Raateland) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse requirement level Date: 17 Nov 95 20:53:20 EET Organization: National Board of Waters and the Environment Lines: 78 Message-ID: <1995Nov17.205320@vyh.fi> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <48ckb4$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: vyh1.vyh.fi In article <48ckb4$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw>, "Joe F. BV/N0IAT" writes: > no thanks....just go take 3 weeks and learn the code. Then you can use 10 > meters, 15 meters, 40 meters, and 80 meters. > > 73, Joe > > BV/N0IAT in Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C. Well, that estimate unfortunately goes for just a few people. I've read messages about how fast somebody learned the code. Good for them! I've been at it for 2 years now, I think, and I've progressed, but I don't think I'm there yet. I find it hard to concentrate long enough. In a QSO there are repeats, redundancy and a standard way to conduct a minimal QSO which helps to stay on track, but random text at a test is a different matter. In many countries the requirements seem to be higher than in the USA. E.g. in Finland and in Holland one needs to be able to send at 12 wpm with no uncorrected mistakes and only a limited number of corrected mistakes allowed. Copying requirements are also strict, only 5 to 8 mistakes(=letters) maximum. One word of 5 letters missed is 5 mistakes. In Finland there is also an extra requirement for a full license in that one has to have 300 CW contacts before taking the 12 wpm test. I tried CW on 2 meters when I was in Holland. The two QSO's I made took almost half an hour a piece and I didn't copy much of the other stations exchange. I can send much faster than I can copy with my keyer, even though I haven't done much sending practice. PSE QRS didn't have any effect. So 300 QSO's might take a total of perhaps 200 hours quite apart from the fact that it is very very quiet on the 2 m CW band. I understand that the current requirements are probably not like the requirements that were once set for professional morse operators, but this is just a hobby and as the morse requirement has nothing to do with safety or radio technique, it should be sufficient that a person complies with the ITU regulations about CW for HF licensees in a minimal way. The morse requirements look probably moderate in the eyes of the administrators and hams setting them, because these officials are commonly either former professional 'sparks' or old timers. A novice license is available, but 80, 40, 15 and 10 m aren't so great for everybody. 80 and 40 require too much antenna space and the rest is mostly dead now. How make 300 CW QSO's on dead bands? I have no appetite for contests. Understand me well, I haven't even looked in the direction of phone transceivers for HF and have a Sierra CW QRP set on order that I'm very much looking forward to build. I want to do CW on HF, because the rigs are relatively simple to make and experiment with and not too expensive. Simplicity was once the reason why I designed and built home brew FM and not SSB rigs for VHF. And the reason to build a rig at all? Not just to make QSO's. No rather more for experimenting, exploring radio and electronics, learning more at one's own pace. I thought that the radio amateur service was about that. The CW requirements look very much like an effective obstacle intended to keep (technically competent) people away from HF. It's hard enough for a city dweller to get a signal out (and in). How to fit an antenna on a small balcony so that it isn't noticed, how to avoid RFI and still get out on some band? Radio amateur organisations should work towards easying CW requirements and allow all HF licensees free choice of bands. And no minimum number of CW QSO's for a full license, please. THIS IS A HOBBY. IT SHOULD BE FUN. AND NOT REQUIRE MORE TIME TO PURSUE THAN IS AVAILABLE FOR A HOBBY. --... ...-- -.. . --- .... ..--- --.. .- --.. Arjen Raateland, SAS Support Finnish Environment Agency Helsinki, Finland .-.-. -.- From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:10 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!mayonews.mayo.edu!newsdist.tc.umn.edu!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!night.primate.wisc.edu!nntp.msstate.edu!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Morse requirement level Message-ID: <1995Nov18.031611.26830@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <48ckb4$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw> <1995Nov17.205320@vyh.fi> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 03:16:11 GMT Lines: 40 In article <1995Nov17.205320@vyh.fi> raateland@vyh.fi (Arjen Raateland) writes: >In article <48ckb4$hrv@keelung.transend.com.tw>, "Joe F. BV/N0IAT" writes: >> no thanks....just go take 3 weeks and learn the code. Then you can use 10 >> meters, 15 meters, 40 meters, and 80 meters. > >Well, that estimate unfortunately goes for just a few people. I've >read messages about how fast somebody learned the code. Good for them! >I've been at it for 2 years now, I think, and I've progressed, but I >don't think I'm there yet. [snip] >The morse requirements look probably moderate in the eyes of the >administrators and hams setting them, because these officials are >commonly either former professional 'sparks' or old timers. These are good points. Those amateurs who claim Morse is easy to learn forget that they are a self-selected sample. Those who found Morse very difficult usually never became amateurs (at least prior to the recent code test free Techs). A relative few people who found Morse very difficult persisted for the months or years needed to pass the test (it took me 13 months with a couple hours practice a day for example), so the average amateur doesn't think learning Morse is a problem because most of those around him in amateur radio typically didn't find it difficult. That's the self-selection factor at work. I hear some of you saying, "So what, if they want to be amateurs they'll put in the work." That would be a reasonable attitude if Morse were still an essential for amateur communications, but it no longer is. Neither the ITU charter nor our US Part 97 define amateur radio as a Morse communcations service. Morse is merely one of many techniques amateurs can use to explore radio communications. CCA'34 says that the FCC must craft regulations to make available to the public access to radio communications "to the greatest extent practical". Applying what is now an irrelevant barrier to amateur licensing is not in keeping with the spirit of the law. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!CTCnet!news.math.psu.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!usenet From: drumhell@claudette.nrl.navy.mil (David Drumheller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Date: 16 Nov 1995 15:41:03 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory Lines: 26 Message-ID: <48fm2f$dv5@ra.nrl.navy.mil> References: <487v4a$fmr@feenix.metronet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: claudette.nrl.navy.mil Keywords: morse, CW In article <487v4a$fmr@feenix.metronet.com> Kelly Qualls writes: > I think it was a company called RKO. Don't know what the message was. > > 73's > > Kelly Qualls > KC5DEN > Yes, it was RKO. The Morse code is the same as the text that appears around the trademark. I think is says "AN RKO PICTURE." If you can copy code, listen next time. Even if you can't normally copy as fast as it's sent in the film, you can still copy it because the text prompts you. More Morse code trivia: At the end of the credits during the last episode of the Ken Burns' series "Radio," you hear a Morse code message that says "BASEBALL NEXT." This, of course, was the name of the nine part (inning?) series that appeard on PBS a few years later. -Dave, KA3QBQ -- David Drumheller phone: (202) 767-3524 Acoustics Division, Code 7140 fax: (202) 404-7732 Naval Research Laboratory Washington, DC 20375-5350 e-mail: drumhell@claudette.nrl.navy.mil From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!bocanews.bocaraton.ibm.com!watnews.watson.ibm.com!newsgate.watson.ibm.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.ios.com!news From: BIG D Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Movie Maker Logo and CW Date: 20 Nov 1995 01:55:24 GMT Organization: Internet Online Services Lines: 17 Message-ID: <48on6c$h0s@news.ios.com> References: <487v4a$fmr@feenix.metronet.com> <48fm2f$dv5@ra.nrl.navy.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-12.ts-1.ct.idt.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1PE (Windows; I; 16bit) > More Morse code trivia: At the end of the credits during the last >episode of the Ken Burns' series "Radio," you hear a Morse code message >that says "BASEBALL NEXT." This, of course, was the name of the nine part >(inning?) series that appeard on PBS a few years later. > >-Dave, KA3QBQ >-- >David Drumheller Another one for you. At the end of each TV episode of 'Inspector Morse' (usually on PBS), the theme song cleverly weaves in the word 'Morse' via a series of monotone beats. Don, N1ECE From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!world!indra.com!coopnews.coop.net!news.den.mmc.com!news.vf.mmc.com!cnn.motown.ge.com!tuna!lweissma From: lweissma@motown.ge.com (Larry Weissman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... Date: 18 Nov 1995 19:47:32 GMT Organization: Martin Marietta Corp, Moorestown NJ Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48ld8k$jn8@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> References: <8049-311824401@ccsnet.com> Reply-To: lweissma@motown.ge.com NNTP-Posting-Host: tuna.motown.ge.com >This call is just so typical of hams, brave at a distance. >gutless hams who hide behind their mikes. >Burt Fisher >K1OIK Sounds a lot like you Burt, hiding behind a keyboard. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... Date: 19 Nov 1995 14:07:28 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <48ndn0$60k@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8049-311824401@ccsnet.com> <48ld8k$jn8@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: lweissma@motown.ge.com lweissma@motown.ge.com (Larry Weissman) wrote: > >>This call is just so typical of hams, brave at a distance. > >>gutless hams who hide behind their mikes. > >>Burt Fisher >>K1OIK > >Sounds a lot like you Burt, hiding behind a keyboard. My address is in the callbook, would you like to meet IN PERSON? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:06:47 GMT Lines: 28 Message-ID: <48sbs7$i81@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8049-311824401@ccsnet.com> <48qu2j$4il@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us (Gary McDuffie, Sr.) wrote: >On Mon, 20 Nov 1995 01:44:54 GMT, js@ibbs.anaheim.ca.us (Jeff Stillinger) >wrote: > >>frustrated that he can not reply as alztimers sets in and he won't be > >Alztimers? > >Gary McDuffie, Sr. I would have replied to Jeff but could not find anything worthwhile in his message. As far as "Alztimers" it is a disease to pass ALL TIME. Otherwise it is called traffic passing or Contesting. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ns.pilot.net!news2.pilot.net!xilinx!neocad.xilinx.com!uucp-1.csn.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!purdue!oitnews.harvard.edu!yale!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!torn!news.unb.ca!nimble.mta.ca!mailserv.mta.ca!pcs From: pcs@mailserv.mta.ca (Paul Case) Newsgroups: rec.skiing.alpine,rec.scuba,rec.scouting,rec.running,rec.roller-coaster,rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amate Subject: Re: NEED CASH?!!...Don't You? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:50:26 Organization: Mount Allison University Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 138.73.15.213 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] Xref: news.epix.net rec.skiing.alpine:33163 rec.scuba:80538 rec.scouting:37770 rec.running:45451 rec.roller-coaster:23228 rec.radio.swap:51148 rec.radio.shortwave:66181 rec.radio.scanner:40814 rec.radio.noncomm:4992 rec.radio.cb:24503 rec.radio.amateur.space:5773 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31919 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94426 In article CyberHals@pi-user.pi.net writes: >From: CyberHals@pi-user.pi.net >Subject: Re: NEED CASH?!!...Don't You? >Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 17:07:11 PDT >Get fucked by a German shepard. Why, is that what you do for fun? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: shirtmon@ix.netcom.com (Steven K. Smith ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Newsgroup abuse??? Date: 18 Nov 1995 21:26:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 15 Message-ID: <48lj2k$it2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-sac10-13.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 18 1:26:44 PM PST 1995 While I agree that some who post to this group are a pain in the rear, I don't think that they should be not allowed to voice thier views. If someone wants to make a fool of themself then stand back and let them do so. This media is different than being on the air. If someone is jamming your dx qso that's wrong. If they call on top of you during a contest you get pissed off. But here, it's easy to side step the unpleasent. I choose not to read messages from certain people. And I enjoy most of the group. As far as the endless threads, just don't read them. If you have to batch download all the posts in the group, upgrade to a better system. If you pick it, it will never heal. de N6QBZ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!news-2.csn.net!usenet From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Newsgroup abuser Date: 17 Nov 1995 19:20:43 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (303)-296-8202 Denver Colorado Lines: 37 Message-ID: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.25.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 This message received today from ... >Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 12:31:08 -0500 >From: Jason Yanowitz >Thank you for your note about Burt Fisher and our system, >meol.mass.edu. We are aware of his incredibly net-unfriendly >activities. Unfortunately, there is very little we can do, because >his untoward behavior is not originating from our system. He has our >address in his signature, but he is very careful to use ccsnet.com for >all his abusive postings. Were he doing it from our system, we could >and would take swift action. >If you see any abusive messages originating from meol.mass.edu, please >send us a copy (including the header), so we can act on it. >We realize how annoying Burt Fisher's posts are, and if there was >something we could do, we would. Please let others know about this, >so they can direct their anger at the correct source >(postmaster@ccsnet.com). If you sent us this message as a result of a >plea to do so in a newsgroup, could you let us know the newsgroup, so >we can post a public explanation of Burt Fisher's relationship to our >system, as well as a request to learn about _any_ abuse, by _any_ >user, coming from our system. >Thank you, >Jason Yanowitz >(a MEOL system administrator) -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Postal Address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA email: stan@mutadv.com KaWin Home Page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP Site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: 17 Nov 1995 23:21:43 GMT Lines: 47 Message-ID: <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: stan@mutadv.com,yanowitz@eternity.cs.umass.edu,postmaster@meol.mass.edu,fisher@meol.mass.edu stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) wrote: >This message received today from ... The following is only PART of Yanowitz's libel: >>Date: Fri, 17 Nov 95 12:31:08 -0500 >>From: Jason Yanowitz > >>We realize how annoying Burt Fisher's posts are, and if there was >>something we could do, we would. Please let others know about this, >>so they can direct their anger at the correct source >>(postmaster@ccsnet.com). If you sent us this message as a result of a >>plea to do so in a newsgroup, could you let us know the newsgroup, so >>we can post a public explanation of Burt Fisher's relationship to our >>system, as well as a request to learn about _any_ abuse, by _any_ >>user, coming from our system. > >>Thank you, >>Jason Yanowitz >>(a MEOL system administrator) Thank you for forwarding and posting this defamatory message. I was unaware I was being libeled by anyone in MEOL. MEOL has no use for me whatever for entirely different reasons than users here would think. Through my activity in exposing their wasteful government spending I may have caused them to lose many positions and money. Even when I did post from MEOL they were ineffective in removing me. Methinks they need another look at what remains of their boondoggle. A copy of this response will be sent to Yanowitz and I expect him to apologize to me, esspecially since his message was posted for thousands to see. If he does not I think I will be calling my state re AGAIN about what is going on at MEOL. He had no right to say a word more other than there was nothing he could do because I do not post from MEOL. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!hookup!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!news1.crl.com!nntp.crl.com!usenet From: danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 03:10:37 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Lines: 25 Message-ID: <48jiu0$1so@nntp.crl.com> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> Reply-To: danb@a.crl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: a102020.sfo2.as.crl.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Burt Fisher wrote: >Thank you for forwarding and posting this defamatory message. I was >unaware I was being libeled by anyone in MEOL. MEOL has no use for me You aren't. The person from MEOL said that you were annoying. Insofar as that's a factual question, the statement is true, and insofar is it isn't a factual question, it was a protected statement of opinion. If you really think that it's libel for someone to say that you're annoying, feel free to attempt to sue me for it. I'd welcome the entertainment, as well as the verdict for malicious prosecution that I would almost certainly receive after your case was dismissed. Burt, not only are you incredibly annoying, most of your posts are phenomenally stupid. To ask yet once again, if you hate hams so much, why are you one? -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS danb@a.crl.com, NOT danb@crl.com Don't tread on me. E-Mail published at my discretion. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsfeed.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsserver.sdsc.edu!news.cerf.net!usc!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fibr.net!news1.crl.com!nntp.crl.com!usenet From: danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 03:11:22 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48jivd$1so@nntp.crl.com> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> Reply-To: danb@a.crl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: a102020.sfo2.as.crl.com Burt Fisher wrote: >what is going on at MEOL. He had no right to say a word more other than >there was nothing he could do because I do not post from MEOL. Just as a P.S., ever hear of the First Amendment? He had every right to say what he said. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS danb@a.crl.com, NOT danb@crl.com Don't tread on me. E-Mail published at my discretion. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: 19 Nov 1995 14:17:35 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: <48ne9v$60k@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> <48jiu0$1so@nntp.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: danb@a.crl.com danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) wrote: > You aren't. The person from MEOL said that you were annoying. >Insofar as that's a factual question, the statement is true, and >insofar is it isn't a factual question, it was a protected statement >of opinion. Annoying is a matter of opinion. I get many messages that think I am a great poster, lots of humor. It is OPINION. BUT the poster from MEOL was representing Mass. Ed. ON LINE and had no right to post HIS opinion on taxpayer time. He is giving OFFICIAL sanction and thus has gone too far. What if I a said on here that one of my students was a slut, named her and could prove it? Would that be ethical? > If you really think that it's libel for someone to say that you're >annoying, feel free to attempt to sue me for it. I'd welcome the >entertainment, as well as the verdict for malicious prosecution that I >would almost certainly receive after your case was dismissed. You are merely representing yourself and there is no damage done to me thus no basis for a tort. By the way malicious prosecution is VERY hard to prove. All you need to prosecute is some reason that has some legitmate basis. > Burt, not only are you incredibly annoying, most of your posts are >phenomenally stupid. To ask yet once again, if you hate hams so much, >why are you one? Your opinion. When I was a wimp and a dork I got a license. There is nothing as bad as a reformed smoker except a reformed ham. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: 19 Nov 1995 14:19:29 GMT Lines: 26 Message-ID: <48nedh$60k@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> <48jivd$1so@nntp.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: danb@a.crl.com danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) wrote: >Burt Fisher wrote: > >>what is going on at MEOL. He had no right to say a word more other than >>there was nothing he could do because I do not post from MEOL. > > Just as a P.S., ever hear of the First Amendment? He had every right >to say what he said. On his OWN time from HIS OWN equipment with only his OWN name, I would agree. But he gave it official sanction. He will apologize or he will wish he had. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: 19 Nov 1995 21:48:58 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <48o8oa$7rr@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> <48jiu0$1so@nntp.crl.com> <48ne9v$60k@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: ssampson@icon.net ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) wrote: >Ethically you'd be wrong. But ethics doesn't count anymore. With the schools >dumping out so many lawyers, the public is merely a target. Wrong is when you >don't have enough money or backing to win. As OJ proved. >Q: What do you get after 20 years of pumping out lawyers instead of engineers? >A: Clinton for President, fat women trying to get into the Citadel, and a 5 > trillion deficit. Well stated. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc103.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuser Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 11:23:08 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <48inab$mpd@news-2.csn.net> <48j5e7$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> <48jiu0$1so@nntp.crl.com> <48ne9v$60k@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc103.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] >What if I a said on here that one of my students was a slut, named her and >could prove it? Would that be ethical? Ethically you'd be wrong. But ethics doesn't count anymore. With the schools dumping out so many lawyers, the public is merely a target. Wrong is when you don't have enough money or backing to win. Q: What do you get after 20 years of pumping out lawyers instead of engineers? A: Clinton for President, fat women trying to get into the Citadel, and a 5 trillion deficit. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.primenet.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!stat!david Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Message-ID: <199511192300.RAA00607@rrnet.com> From: "Dale Cary" Subject: Newsline 953 Update... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:02:17 +0000 Approved: rec-radio-info@stat.com Sender: news Lines: 12 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94536 rec.radio.info:10423 Message-Id: <199511192300.RAA00607@rrnet.com> From: "Dale Cary" Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 17:02:17 +0000 Subject: Newsline 953 Update... In Newsline 953 sent out earlier today the http address in the last story should have been: http://www.scott.net/~wa4fat It was correctly listed in the header. Sorry for this correction. TNX, Dale - WD0AKO From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!torn!nott!crc-news.doc.ca!jcumming From: jcumming@dgim.doc.ca (Jim Cummings) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 16 Nov 1995 14:49:17 GMT Organization: Communications Canada Lines: 42 Message-ID: <48fj1d$nhr@crc-news.doc.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: crc.doc.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Mark Johnson (msjohnso@KS.Symbios.COM) wrote: : In article <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) writes: : >Petitions: : >Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out : >fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what : >you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind : >of difference we can make! : You're a few weeks too late. The WRC-95 World Radio Conference apparently : debated this issue and decided that, for now, the amateur community would : continue to require proficiency in Morse for operating privileges below 30 : MHz. Unless the US is to abrogate the treaty under which we participate in the : WRC (not likely, since it requires an act of Congress, that can't even get a : budget passed), the FCC's hands are tied. Not true. The debate that was momentarily considered at WRC-95 was the acceptance of the Government of New Zealand's proposal to amend the agenda to modify ITU Radio Regulation 2735. The conference decided that this was not the time to debate this issue, I suspect for reasons that most other administrations were not prepared to do so. Thus Morse code testing was not affirmed after a debate, but was left in place because the conference did not wish to do so. I understand that there was general agreement that this agenda item would be welcome item for debate at the next or subsequent WRC. I must admit that I am by no means an expert on U.S. jurisprudence, but I believe that the elimination of Morse code testing for operation below 30 MHz would NOT be an abrogation of the ITU Radio Regulations. In like manner of the Japanese administration with their HF no-code amateur certificates, the FCC, in accordance with RR 342, could exercise its rights of derogation of the provions of the ITU radio regulations provided that harmful interference would not be caused or experienced by stations that continue to operate within the ITU Radio Regulations. Again, this is my opinion and the question should be referred to someone who is competent in U.S. legislation and international law. 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 16 Nov 1995 21:21:45 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 15 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48ga19$e34@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <48agl0$eho@taxis.corp.titan.com> <48b5v4$lon$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> <48d70j$1rvu@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48g2ua$7lr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 >In article <48d70j$1rvu@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, >Drew Durigan wrote: > >>I have talked around the world with 5 watts out of my car. >> >>-Drew in Charlotte- >> KF4DDM > >On 15 & 75 meters? No, on 10-11 meters. Who said anything about 15 & 75? -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!nctuccca.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!elvis.delphi.com!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 17 Nov 1995 15:10:50 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 27 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48i8lq$gsv@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <48agl0$eho@taxis.corp.titan.com> <48d70j$1rvu@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48g2ua$7lr@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ga19$e34@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <48ga19$e34@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >>In article <48d70j$1rvu@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, >>Drew Durigan wrote: >> >>>I have talked around the world with 5 watts out of my car. >>> >>>-Drew in Charlotte- >>> KF4DDM >> >>On 15 & 75 meters? > >No, on 10-11 meters. Who said anything about 15 & 75? > >-Drew in Charlotte- > KF4DDM The post you replied to! -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:31 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.netrail.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Message-ID: <1995Nov17.161833.23934@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:18:33 GMT Lines: 47 In article msjohnso@KS.Symbios.COM (Mark Johnson) writes: > >You're a few weeks too late. The WRC-95 World Radio Conference apparently >debated this issue and decided that, for now, the amateur community would >continue to require proficiency in Morse for operating privileges below 30 >MHz. Unless the US is to abrogate the treaty under which we participate in the >WRC (not likely, since it requires an act of Congress, that can't even get a >budget passed), the FCC's hands are tied. Actually, WRC-95 *didn't* debate the issue. Instead they handed it off to a committee to put it on the agenda for a future WARC. You're right though that the FCC won't act until the treaty language is modified. That could happen as early as 1997, but is more likely to be delayed until 1999. The value of petitions now is to remove the illusion that the amateur community doesn't desire changes. The FCC has publicly stated that the only reason they've continued to support a Morse test is because the amateur community demands it. What they really mean by that is that the ARRL demands it, since that's the 800 pound gorilla they listen to when they want the sense of the amateur community. Short of getting the ARRL to reverse field and demand elimination of the Morse test, amateurs who want to see this change must be vocal directly to the FCC to disabuse them of the notion that the ARRL speaks for all of us on this issue. That will then allow the FCC to look favorably on modification of Article 32 at a future WARC. (A cc to the ARRL is warranted too. Miracles do happen, and the ARRL might change its position if it gets enough pressure from the membership.) >Right now, I doubt the FCC is answering its phones anyway. I suspect that >they're not on the list of "essential services" under the current gov. >shutdown. Too true, but the sacks of mail will be waiting for them when they come back. This has to be a long term effort. Change isn't going to come overnight, and those wanting HF *now* had better disengage their brains and become modems to pass the Morse test. This effort has to be aimed at making things better for those who follow in the years ahead. It is unlikely to make a difference to those desiring HF access now. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:33 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.netrail.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Message-ID: <1995Nov17.163107.24065@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <48fj1d$nhr@crc-news.doc.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 16:31:07 GMT Lines: 46 In article <48fj1d$nhr@crc-news.doc.ca> jcumming@dgim.doc.ca (Jim Cummings) writes: >Mark Johnson (msjohnso@KS.Symbios.COM) wrote: >: You're a few weeks too late. The WRC-95 World Radio Conference apparently >: debated this issue and decided that, for now, the amateur community would >: continue to require proficiency in Morse for operating privileges below 30 >: MHz. Unless the US is to abrogate the treaty under which we participate in the >: WRC (not likely, since it requires an act of Congress, that can't even get a >: budget passed), the FCC's hands are tied. > >Not true. The debate that was momentarily considered at WRC-95 was the >acceptance of the Government of New Zealand's proposal to amend the agenda >to modify ITU Radio Regulation 2735. The conference decided that this was >not the time to debate this issue, I suspect for reasons that most other >administrations were not prepared to do so. Thus Morse code testing was >not affirmed after a debate, but was left in place because the conference >did not wish to do so. I understand that there was general agreement that >this agenda item would be welcome item for debate at the next or >subsequent WRC. Yes, most likely not until 1999, however. >I must admit that I am by no means an expert on U.S. jurisprudence, but I >believe that the elimination of Morse code testing for operation below 30 >MHz would NOT be an abrogation of the ITU Radio Regulations. In like manner >of the Japanese administration with their HF no-code amateur certificates, >the FCC, in accordance with RR 342, could exercise its rights of >derogation of the provions of the ITU radio regulations provided that >harmful interference would not be caused or experienced by stations that >continue to operate within the ITU Radio Regulations. Again, this is my >opinion and the question should be referred to someone who is competent >in U.S. legislation and international law. The US can do this, and has on rare occasions in the past. But it is unlikely to do so in this case. In general, the US has tried to avoid using footnoted exceptions to ITU regulations, doing so only when a vital national interest was at stake. This policy is founded on the notion of leading by example. The fear at Foggy Bottom is that if we start taking exceptions to treaty language, other nations will do so also and the value of the treaty process will be decreased. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ka9egw@aol.com (KA9EGW) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 18 Nov 1995 17:34:54 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <48ln2e$a5g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> Reply-To: ka9egw@aol.com (KA9EGW) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com "The end result of shielding men from their folly is a world of fools". I have seen what no-code did for VHF. Only a fool would want the same for HF. Of course, God forbid that anything stand in the way of Icom/Yaesu/Kenwood selling more HF rigs to make $$$ to let them buy up more of this once-great country with. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 18 Nov 1995 10:53:03 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <48kvgv$2fn@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <1995Nov17.163107.24065@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <48injj$6ai$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <48injj$6ai$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com>, Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >More than 90% are "HF No Code". They have UHF/VHF privileges >and slices of 5 or the 9 HF bands (No 20m, no WARC). Power out >is limited to 10Watts. Sounds like our CB-radio band, only with operating privs on "amateur" bands. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc114.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 22:38:54 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <48ln2e$a5g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc114.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] ka9egw@aol.com (KA9EGW) writes: >I have seen what no-code did for VHF. 200% increase in activity. Ham radio was dying on the vine prior to restructuring the antiquated coded-license. If you can find a CW key jack on an Alinco, Icom, Kenwood, Radio-Shack, or whatever, VHF/UHF/SHF radio, I'll say we should go back to the bad old days, and run CW based licenses again. >Only a fool would want the same for HF. I have an HF radio. I listen to it. I listen to what is going on and try to decide if I want to participate. Will studying 13 wpm and upgrading, give me pleasure I ask. From what I can tell, the HF bands are a cesspool of the failed Great Society. 1 out of 50 conversations I listen to are interesting, and well done. The rest are retired old white men, who hate all other races, are mostly democrats, and can't stand anything. It's a non-issue. Real men aren't going to spend $2k to get on HF, code or no code. They may spend $50 to build a CW rig. But SSB is a wasteland. I think the ARRL should abandon all awards. Having done that, it would remove from the bands the awful non-communications bad habits. -- Steve/n5owk (coded) Socialist Democrat "Spend, Spend, Spend! -- Screw the kids, live now!" From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!spool.mu.edu!daily-planet.execpc.com!usenet From: Thomas Brockdorf Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 21 Nov 1995 17:30:16 GMT Organization: Exec-PC BBS - Milwaukee, WI Lines: 41 Message-ID: <48t2b8$51v@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> <1995Nov17.161833.23934@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <48ou4a$olr@sundial.gatech.edu> <1995Nov20.154944.12102@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: cleversheep.execpc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <48ou4a$olr@sundial.gatech.edu> wt2@prism.gatech.edu (William C. Thompson) writes: >>> The FCC has publicly stated that the only reason they've continued to >>> support a Morse test is because the amateur community demands it. What they >>> really mean by that is that the ARRL demands it, since that's the 800 >>> pound gorilla they listen to when they want the sense of the >>> amateur community. >> >>That the ARRL does the amateur community a lot of good is undeniable. I would >>however, not be a ham today, if the ARRL had had there way. I will join >>and support the ARRL, when they start listening to the growing majority of >>ham operators. I will not give my money to a group whose primary purpose >>seems the preservation of Morse code. I would advise other No-codes the >>same. They will listen to there purse, long before they listen to your >>dissatisfaction. That means no ARRL repeater manuals, no books, courses, >>etc. Thats what I am doing. > >I think you're wrong, Sarge. I urge every amateur to join the ARRL, >and to *vote*, and if necessary to run for office in the ARRL. You >won't change them by ignoring them. You've got to be inside to make >changes. Remember the ARRL is a non-profit membership organization >with an all volunteer Board of Directors. As long as the DXCC and >contest awards keep churning out, they'll have a core constituency >who won't back off, whether you buy a book or not. Making money isn't >their prime motivation. The only way to change the ARRL is to take >over the reins of the ARRL, and you can't do that from the outside. > >Gary >-- Gary, I agree with you. People keep slaming thE ARRL. I truly believe that without the ARRL to represent us, there would be little or no Amateur radio as we know it. I don't always agree with everything they do, but we do need them very much to represent our interests. 73 de Thomas AA9IS From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.rain.org!leigh From: leigh@rain.org (Leigh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Novice/Tech Questions via FTP? Date: 18 Nov 1995 00:47:48 GMT Organization: RAIN Public Access Internet (805) 967-RAIN Lines: 9 Message-ID: <48jafk$nps@news.rain.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: leigh@coyote.rain.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Several friends have expressed interest in getting the Novice and Tech tickets. (One is an ex-ham who was active in the '60s.) Is there an Internet source for the current "pool" of exam questions? (One individual currently can't afford a published study guide, and I'd like a FTP source, if it exists.) Thanks in advance from Leigh/KM6JE. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!jbw.csbsdal.org!user From: wright@onramp.net (jeff wright) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:14:38 -0500 Organization: csbs Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: jbw.csbsdal.org X-Newsreader: Value-Added NewsWatcher 2.0b24.0+ Michael: Is it possible they were using the repeater to do the id'ing for them? Since they are in effect a "special event" with what I would assume the repeater owner's (Club's???) permission...would that satisfy the id/control point questions? Could they be using the club/repeater's call sign? I assume the repeater id's every 10 minutes or less, either in code or synthesized voice. Jeff Wright KC5NEZ In article , n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) wrote: > I was in New York last weekend, and I listened in to some of the Marathon > nets. They were all well run, but one thing stood out. I heard almost no > callsigns. I listened to the South net (446.67) and the medical net (445.07) > for about an hour on each. Net control gave a general net ID, along with his > call at the top and half of each hour, and stations ID'ed when they were > excused for the day, but for all of the other calls into the net, I only > heard tactical calls. > > I am just curious where people were ID'ing with their own callsigns? The > only thing I can think of was that people were IDing without PL and therefore > the IDs weren't picked up by the repeaters. I am used to the final message > in a qso with ncs to include both tactical and FCC calls (station 12, N1IST > clear). > /mike > -- > \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST Teradyne ATB, Boston MA > -*- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > /|\ ardai@maven.dnet.teradyne.com n1ist@netcom.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:40 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Message-ID: <1995Nov21.054810.15652@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 05:48:10 GMT Lines: 30 In article wright@onramp.net (jeff wright) writes: >Is it possible they were using the repeater to do the id'ing for them? >Since they are in effect a "special event" with what I would assume the >repeater owner's (Club's???) permission...would that satisfy the >id/control point questions? Could they be using the club/repeater's call >sign? I assume the repeater id's every 10 minutes or less, either in code >or synthesized voice. It doesn't matter. Each transmitter still has to identify individually every 10 minutes during the activity and again at the termination of activity. Tactical calls can be used in between. That remains true even if all the stations are operating under a common club call sign. Each RF carrier must still be identified. The FCC allows tactical calls specifically so you won't run afoul of the prohibition against transmitting false or deceptive identification, but that doesn't waive the 10 minute rule for a regular legal ID. We face a similar situation in Broadcast. We can use jingles or slogans as "tactical" IDs, but we still have to give a full legal ID at least once an hour, at the first natural break nearest the top of the hour. Amateurs have to ID more often, but the principle is the same. The purpose of IDing is to determine who's responsible for that particular RF carrier in case it may be causing some problem to others. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ftpbox!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 12:05:32 -0500 Organization: Mot RNSG - Private Data Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: <48q1n8$oib@crl.crl.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article <48q1n8$oib@crl.crl.com>, clay@crl.com (Clay Irving) wrote: > > From the 1995 New York City Marathon Amateur Radio Operators Manual, > page 3: > > "When initial logistical traffic lightens up the NCS will intiate > a roll call. From that point on, only use your location as an > identifier when you call into the net. i.e. "mile five to net" > or "net from mile 21"." From FCC Rules, Part 97.119(a): "Each amateur station, except a space station or telecommand station, must transmit its assigned call sign on its transmitting channel at the end of each communication, and at least every 10 minutes during a communicartion, for the purpose of clearly making the source of the transmissions from the station known to those receiving the transmissions. No station may transmit unidentified communications or signals, or transmit as the station call sign any call sign not authorized to the station." I don't think that the old hack "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" will hold water against an FCC citation. On the other hand, when was the last time that FCC Field Enforcement Office even wrote a citation?? Food for thought..... -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola RNSG Pvt Data < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur Radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!g4kfk.demon.co.uk From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Phoney-netics Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 12:03:22 GMT Organization: CQ-BBS +44 1753 595468 Lines: 7 Message-ID: <816523402snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: g4kfk.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 Overheard in my office yesterday, a secretary giving a zip code over the phone: 'X for Christmas' 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!worldlinx.com!newbridge.com!nott!torn!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: kwyatt@tcf.COM (Keith Wyatt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Post not yor Binary files here. Date: 14 Nov 95 03:43:15 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 26 Message-ID: <199511130344.TAA00619@fact.tcf.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu >Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 18:35:42 GMT >From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) >Subject: POST YOUR BEST SSTV RX'd PICS ON THIS THREAD! > >In article , >charles copeland wrote: >>I have recieved a bunch of SSTY pictures on my SW radio (Sony 2010) >>with HAMCOM and JVFAX. Some have been incredibly clear. >> >>Since there is no rec.radio.amateur.sstv.binaries, these newsgroups >>seems appropriate. >> >> Please don't post your files in this newsgroup. That is not the purpose of this mail list. Thank You, Keith Wyatt Peace through understanding. This Message is Copyright 1995 and may not be reprinted in any form by a pay for item such as CD-ROM, news organization or online service, without the consent of Keith Wyatt. PGP key at all key servers. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!news.bc.net!news.uoregon.edu!demon!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!news-2.csn.net!teal.csn.net!not-for-mail From: rcw@csn.net (Robert C. White Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Proto-newbie in Denver seeks advice Date: 18 Nov 1995 22:40:31 -0700 Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc. Lines: 67 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48mg0f$l37@teal.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.117.27.22 Greetings out there! I recently purchased the ARRL guide, _Now You're Talking_ from my local Radio Shack. I've completed about 1/3 of the lessons and have found it to be very informative and well written. It seems that a lot of my interest and experience in electronics will serve me well whilst studying for the novice license. This book covers both the Technician and Novice licenses. My immediate reaction is to try and learn the material for both licenses. What do you think of this (and their) approach? I personally am interested in "talking on the radio" to serve a specific purpose such as weather spotting, emergency services, or information exchange about the hobby. I saw a show about remote Indian villages visited by Bush pilots on occasion in the Canadian Arctic last night -- it would be a thrill for me to QSO some of the town operators, or as a Native American myself, communicate with them about conditions in the far north. I know that alcohol's availability is a big concern. Anyway... CW interests me quite a bit, so I think it makes sense to go after the Novice license with the 5 wpm test. At 5 wpm, My mind stands a good chance of staying ahead of my hand ;-) (Is there any relationship between one's ability to type versus one's ability to transmit CW? I type about 120 wpm. I just ordered a key and a CPO from Universal Radio, so I do not know what my abilities are as of yet.) One reason CW appeals to me is because it is the only mode permitted on 80 and 40 meters which I perceive to be DX bands (from my SWL experience). I have a few questions which perhaps one of you can answer: 1) What would be a good "starter rig" for CW? I'm fairly confused by all the options out there. While not made of money, I can save up for and purchase a receiver costing > $1,000 if necessary. I expect to stay in this hobby for a long time. 2) The ARRL publication strongly suggests finding other hams in your area to benefit from the collective wisdom. Does anyone know how to contact hams in Denver? If not, I will write to ARRL. 3) Do most people around the world transmit CW in English? If not, does an alphabet exist for other languages such as Arabic or Russian? 4) Can CW be legally transmitted by computer? i.e, you know CW, and are licensed to transmit this mode, but you prefer to have the software send the information. What about all the nasty hum generated by the computer? Is that frowned upon? Thanks in advance, and please be gentle with me -- I have been studying for only a few weeks and may have made a total fool out of myself asking a question above. Thanks in advance, and, (let me give this a try) good listening and 73s. [ Robert C. White, Jr. rcw@whitestar.com ] [ WhiteStar Corporation ] [ Love me, love my malamute. Cartographic Data ] From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!malgudi.oar.net!catseye.bluemarble.net!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!news-m01.ny.us.ibm.net!usenet From: jagon@ibm.net (Jose Antonio Gonzalez) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: qsl route to VP2EE Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:20:32 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48ev69$24ue@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <48aii9$fkg@taxis.corp.titan.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip92-42-117.emea.ibm.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Bill Bennett wrote: >I am not a Dx'er at all! but my nefue who is a no code had the oportunity >to contact VP2EE in the west indies, i would like to send out a qsl card >for him! >any one have the address, route, or manager >post here or i could have a pile of e- mail >73 >bill >kc6yox Try: VP2EE(70) VE3EUU VP2EE(82-83+91) AA4NC VP2EE(90) W9ZRX+KA2OUZ VP2EE(92) KA3DBN Best 73 From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dpc.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack and HT Sales Date: 17 Nov 1995 15:09:34 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 22 Message-ID: <48i8je$h97$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <47jijl$62@news.hal-pc.org> > I worked for RS for a year. They know it requires a license to use > ham radio. They don't care. If you have the money, they will sell > to you. I never would do it. It really pissed off the manager. Technically speaking, you probably were breaking the law by refusing the sale. There are a number of reasons an unlicensed person might purchase amateur equipment, such as a person preparing for the test, buying a gift for a ham, etc.... By the way, why all the heat on RS?..... I can call any number of 1-800 numbers in the back of QST and order equipment with no license/call shown or asked for. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.tcst.com!dildog.lgc.com!news.sesqui.net!darwin.sura.net!dcc.uchile.cl!library.ucla.edu!info.ucla.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!elvis.delphi.com!usenet From: DOUG GAVILANES Newsgroups: soc.culture.venezuela,soc.culture.uruguay,soc.culture.spain,soc.culture.peru,soc.culture.mexican.american,soc.culture.latin-america,soc.culture.ecuador,soc.culture.cuba,soc.culture.colombia,soc.culture.chile,soc.culture.bolivia,soc.culture.argentina,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: RADIOAFICIOANDOS ENLAZADOS VIA INTERNET Date: 16 Nov 1995 06:54:03 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48en6b$lib@tar.beta.delphi.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip134-69.bb.delphi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net soc.culture.venezuela:42985 soc.culture.uruguay:4341 soc.culture.spain:81199 soc.culture.peru:10340 soc.culture.mexican.american:7654 soc.culture.latin-america:38844 soc.culture.ecuador:3981 soc.culture.cuba:29776 soc.culture.colombia:11680 soc.culture.chile:30942 soc.culture.bolivia:9959 soc.culture.argentina:26778 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94402 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11614 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21474 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12652 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17160 Saludos desde la zona W6, Que tal si la proxima vez usamos una repetidora de 2M o 440MHz en Los Angeles? El sistema de 1.2 GHz no tiene mucho uso aqui en Los Angeles. Les felicito por el hecho. Acabo de comprar Internet Phone y reconozco que hacer la conexion resulta sumamente facil. Voy a averiguar si hay alguna repetidora mas accesible que quiere participar para otro enlace. Hasta pronto, 73 cordiales desde Disneylandia, Douglas Gavilanes Russo, N6XQY srigc@delphi.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Date: 18 Nov 1995 17:13:34 GMT Organization: ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities Lines: 16 Message-ID: <48l47u$iot$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> IF the RINGING keys the TX and is caused by a person CALLING the phone line, that is NOT telemetry....that is a singal that someone is calling in on the phone line and is against FCC rules concerning 3rd party tfc and station control Telemetry is one thing, people CAUSING the TX to key up is not telemetry. read the definition of telemetry in Part 97 73 Chris WB5ITT -- Senior Telecommunications Technician 72732.2610@CompuServe.com ENTERGY/Gulf States Utilities 1:106/4267 FIDOnet ARRL Technical Specialist- South TX WB5ITT - PG-9-5322 From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:51 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Message-ID: <1995Nov19.100527.6141@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <48l47u$iot$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 10:05:27 GMT Lines: 19 In article <48l47u$iot$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Chris Boone <72732.2610@CompuServe.COM> writes: >IF the RINGING keys the TX and is caused by a person CALLING the phone line, >that is NOT telemetry....that is a singal that someone is calling in on the >phone line and is against FCC rules concerning 3rd party tfc and station >control > >Telemetry is one thing, people CAUSING the TX to key up is not telemetry. >read the definition of telemetry in Part 97 The repeater is operating under automatic control, and it is the automatic controller which is keying the repeater, as you programmed it to do, in order to report a status change it has detected. It's telemetry. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: acubel@alfa.adinet.COM.UY (Alejandro Cubel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: SCANNERS / 800 MHZ Date: 18 Nov 95 20:56:46 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 8 Message-ID: <199511182056.MAA09043@alfa> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Does anyone know if there are any scanner in the US market with 800mhz band easy to mod ? In my country they are no restriccions to receive cellular band. I have a Kenwood TM 732 , but the step on 800 mhz dont match the standard in CX. (30 khz). Thanks 73 from CX9BBL From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news.igc.apc.org!cdp!pledge From: "The Pledge, at Student Pugwash USA" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Sign This Pledge for a Better World Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 13:57:05 -0800 (PST) X-Gateway: notes@igc.apc.org Lines: 50 (With apologies for duplicate postings.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- DECEMBER 10, 1995 -- The Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to Professor Joseph Rotblat and the Pugwash Conferences on Science & World Affairs. TODAY -- You too can take responsibility for the world by committing to the ethical use of science and technology in society. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Imagine the impact of a million people signing this pledge IMAGINE YOU SIGNING THIS PLEDGE ---------------------------------------------------------------- "I promise to work for a better world, where science and technology are used in socially responsible ways. I will not use my education for any purpose intended to harm human beings or the environment. Throughout my career, I will consider the ethical implications of my work before I take action. While the demands placed upon me may be great, I sign this declaration because I recognize that individual responsibility is the first step on the path to peace." ---------------------------------------------------------------- To find out how you can sign the pledge or become involved in this campaign, initiated by Student Pugwash USA, visit the web site: http://www.spusa.org/pugwash/pledge.html send an e-mail message (for an automatic response) to: student-pugwash-pledge@igc.org or contact: Student Pugwash USA 815 15th Street, NW, Suite 814 Washington, DC 20005 USA 202-393-6555 pledge@spusa.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- Professor Joseph Rotblat: "We young and old must nurture a vision of a better world in the next century, a world without war, a society based on care and equity, a community that will protect the environment. And we should make it our task to turn this vision into reality." ---------------------------------------------------------------- (Help gather a million signatures on this pledge! Please forward this message to all applicable locations, and place a link to the Web page on your homepage.) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:55 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!lamarck.sura.net!fconvx.ncifcrf.gov!mack From: mack@ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack) Subject: Software announcement, v1.1 of AZPROJ mapping proj available Message-ID: Keywords: azimuthal equidistant projection software, GNU licence Sender: mack@ncifcrf.gov Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 19:28:01 GMT Lines: 60 Announcement: AZPROJ11.zip (approx 950kb) and AZP10-11.zip (60kb) are available on nic.funet.fi/pub/ham/antennas and oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/pc/ham-utils Michael NV3Z's home page http://access5.digex.net:80/~michaelk/ contains a demo map, links to e-mail and ftp sites. Michael is bicycling across the USA (finishing late Nov). 'Til he gets back and updates the page, the ftp links will be to old (or maybe non-existant files). (V1.1 is a bug fix for v1.0. V1.0 did not run on Postscript printers, if a grid.dat file was sent before the .wdb files. v1.0 ran fine under Ghostscript. Unless you have a real Postscript printer and want to plot worked grids, you do not need this fix. The whole suite of files is available as azproj11.zip. The fix only is in azp10-11.zip.) Azproj v1.1 is a collection of postscript files and data files for generating azimuthal equidistance projections of the earth from (almost) any point on earth. It can plot color maps of the surface of the earth on any scale, draw and/or label grid squares, show worked grid squares on a band(s) of your choice, dxcc countries (and countries worked an a particular mode, eg CW/SSB), mountain tops, rovers, repeaters, beacons and can use NMEA input from a GPS receiver to center the map. Azproj can be run on ANY computer (Mac, PC/DOS/Win/DVX, Unix) and output to a postscript device (printer, ghostscript runing on a unix or DOS machine with a ghostscript compatible printer, eg HPcolor inkjets). Ghostscript will also allow display of the maps on screens. Although a rudimentary understanding of postscript will help in running azproj, sample .bat files are supplied to make initial maps and it should be possible to make simple changes to the az_ini.ps and *.bat files to get the maps you want. To display the maps on a screen or to use a non-postscript printer, you should first obtain ghostscript (available for PC (DOS, Win, DesqViewX) or Unix) from your favorite ftp site (try ftp.cs.wisc.edu/pub/ghost) The azproj files are GNU copylefted. Joe Mack NA3T, mack@ncifcrf.gov, mack@xray.duke.edu and Michael Katzmann NV3Z, michael@baa01285.slip.digex.net From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Someone is playing me! Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:02:43 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <48sbkj$i81@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Someone is posting messages that appear to be by me, but are not. However: 1. They are good at appearing to be me. 2. They are funny. 3. They HELP me in any concern that my service provider may have that I am innocent because who can tell what I write and I do not. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!csn!nntp-xfer-2.csn.net!yuma!lamar.ColoState.EDU!not-for-mail From: galen@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Watts) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Tek 604 CRT Display Diagram? Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:45:20 -0700 Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48t6o0$2mhu@lamar.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: lamar.acns.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I have a Tektronics model 603 CRT display unit. It has a little problem with with it's -30 volt supply (it's only -25.6 volts, manual sez -30 exactly) and the manual I have is a poor photocopy, missing some horizontal lines, etc. Does anyone know where to get a better copy or even a real manual? I only need the diagram marked 'Low Voltage Power Supply/Regulators' and is a schematic of same. The bottom says (I think): "603/604 Rev H June 1976'. havin' fun, galen, KF0YJ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!demon!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The Anti-ARRL Broadcast Group- what is it? Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 22:28:14 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 6 Message-ID: <48j22t$n2o@news1.inlink.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip28.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Send me info too! A group like this I WOULD JOIN!!! Gary - KG0ZP From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:23:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc132.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (Steve Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The Anti-ARRL Broadcast Group- what is it? Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 19:32:44 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <48j22t$n2o@news1.inlink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc132.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann) writes: >Send me info too! >A group like this I WOULD JOIN!!! Typical gang reaction. Gangs are popular because destroying everything is easier than building anything. That's why gangs attract the scum of society. If your goal was to compete in a positive way, you would have to work. Rather than work, you'd rather just spray paint your gang slogan on our wall... Scum. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: tsavo@ix.netcom.com (--- ) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:19:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 1 Message-ID: <48evnk$i5i@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-lv7-15.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Thu Nov 16 1:19:48 AM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52159 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4615 rec.pyrotechnics:37709 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17168 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12658 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21489 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11619 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94410 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31908 rec.radio.amateur.space:5769 rec.radio.cb:24494 rec.radio.noncomm:4988 rec.radio.scanner:40796 rec.radio.shortwave:66160 rec.radio.swap:51121 rec.roller-coaster:23224 rec.running:45417 rec.scouting:37755 rec.scuba:80499 rec.skiing.alpine:33119 From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsjunkie.ans.net!gatech2!pirates!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.i1.net!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 16:21:07 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 4 Message-ID: <48fo6h$fk8@news1.inlink.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <485m5d$gqq@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <485q5e$34s@globe.indirect.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip158.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52160 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4616 rec.pyrotechnics:37711 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17169 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12659 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21494 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11620 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94411 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31909 rec.radio.amateur.space:5770 rec.radio.cb:24495 rec.radio.noncomm:4989 rec.radio.scanner:40798 rec.radio.shortwave:66161 rec.radio.swap:51124 rec.roller-coaster:23225 rec.running:45418 rec.scouting:37756 rec.scuba:80500 rec.skiing.alpine:33121 If I fix a HAM & CHEESE on Jewish Rye, is it KOSHER, or must I use Kosher Pickles to get the effect? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!aa266 From: aa266@sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca (Graeme Humphries) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Followup-To: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Date: 18 Nov 1995 23:09:32 GMT Organization: Saskatoon Free-Net Lines: 1 Message-ID: <48lp3c$jaa@tribune.usask.ca> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825eh$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: broadway.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52193 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4624 rec.pyrotechnics:37757 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17205 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12687 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21534 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11648 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94470 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31944 rec.radio.amateur.space:5781 rec.radio.cb:24524 rec.radio.noncomm:4996 rec.radio.scanner:40866 rec.radio.shortwave:66232 rec.radio.swap:51250 rec.roller-coaster:23237 rec.running:45504 rec.scouting:37799 rec.scuba:80625 rec.skiing.alpine:33269 What about free BEEF??? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.uiowa.edu!crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us!SABINW From: sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: The Q5 signal Date: 17 Nov 1995 22:13:49 GMT Organization: Cedar Rapids Public Library, Cedar Rapids, IA, 52401 Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48j1et$uc4@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: SABINW@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us NNTP-Posting-Host: crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us At one time, in the 1930 and before era, the QSA report was widely used. Often the SA was left out. A common expression was "you are very QSA". Also QSA 1 to 5 was used. This was before the RST system was adopted. The RST system was suggested by Braden in QST for October 1934. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!qni.com!gwatts From: Gary Watts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: The Q5 signal Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 08:59:00 -0600 Organization: Suba Communications Lines: 13 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: qni.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <48j1et$uc4@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Ham radio has progressed a long way in 60 + yease On 17 Nov 1995 sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us wrote: > At one time, in the 1930 and before era, the QSA report was widely used. > Often the SA was left out. A common expression was "you are very QSA". > Also QSA 1 to 5 was used. This was before the RST system was adopted. > The RST system was suggested by Braden in QST for October 1934. > > From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!col.hp.com!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!rkarlqu From: rkarlqu@scd.hp.com (Richard Karlquist) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Transmitting reference signal over long distance Date: 18 Nov 1995 23:58:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Lines: 63 Message-ID: <48lrvg$8u@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <489jpr$q0q@nms.telepost.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: hpscrj.scd.hp.com In article <489jpr$q0q@nms.telepost.no>, Per-Tore Aasestrand wrote: >In a project I am working on, I need to transfer a >reference frequency signal from a central site to >several remote sites via cables. The distance is >typical 1-2 km, but in extreme cases it could go up >to 8-9 km. > >The reference signal is today at 100 MHz, but we are >considering moving it to 10 MHz. It is characterized >by *extremely* low phase noise. The total system is >conceived in such a way that it will to a large extent >cancel any imperfections present in this reference. It >is therefore important that the characteristics if the >reference is preserved during the transmission. The >spectral properties up to 3-5 kHz from the carrier are >important. > >Due to these requirements, we have at the moment >excluded the use of radio transmission of this ref. >signal due to the introduced doppler distortion. We >feel that using a cable is the only practical solution >at this stage. We are considering both optical and >copper cables. > >Does anyone here have *any* ideas or suggestions for >how to do this? Specific references to cables and >drivers would be appreciated. Any ideas on how to >calculate the theoretical performance of such a cable >distribution system? > >Regards, >Per-Tore Is this is a ham-radio project or a commercial project? In either case, you should get copies of the last 5 years of the Proceedings of the IEEE Frequency Control Symposium (FCS) and the Proceeding of the Precise Time and Time Interval Application and Planning Meeting (PTTI). PTTI is run out of the US Naval Research Laboratory. Numerous papers have been presented by JPL about their systems of distribution of 100 MHz. I think that would give you a good start. Also, if you want to send me email with more details (like actual specs) of what you're doing, we may be able to help you here at Hewlett-Packard. You might also want to talk to our Optical Communications Division in San Jose about fiber optics. If we can't help you ourselves, we can probably refer you to the right person. An alternative to what you are doing would be to generate the reference separately at each site using our 5071A cesium clocks. The cesium clocks can then be synchronized to within a few nanoseconds using our proprietary GPS common view technique. One reason JPL doesn't do this is that their reference is a hydrogen maser locked to a cesium clock, and hence they would have to have an H-maser and cesium at each site. H-masers are much bigger and more expensive than cesium clocks. Rick Karlquist N6RK Also, Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division rkarlqu@scd.hp.com From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!news.cc.nctu.edu.tw!nctuccca.edu.tw!serv.HiNet.net!news.uoregon.edu!kaiwan.kaiwan.com!not-for-mail From: alf@kaiwan.com (Alfred Lee) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: TRW Swap Meet Date: 19 Nov 1995 11:31:07 -0800 Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Lines: 27 Sender: alf@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com Distribution: world Message-ID: <7tYhmClg18nT068yn@kaiwan.com> References: <48a03v$gpi@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> <9511142205.0V15802@support.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaiwan009.kaiwan.com In article <9511142205.0V15802@support.com>, mlichtman@support.com wrote: > > Can someone tell me the when and where of the TRW radio equipment swap meet? I > am looking for an old Hallicrafters SX 99 rcvr. Any other ideas where to check? Last Saturday of each month at 7 am. Rain or shine in the Manhattan Beach area. Talk-in repeater 145.320 - PL 114.8 A| | v| | N i| | 4 ^ a|B | 0 | t|l | 5 | i|v | o|d | n| | -----+--------------------+------------- | | * | | -----+---- | Marine|Blvd | --- Alfred Lee alf@kaiwan.com KE6KGV 'The answer is (e^iă + 1) ? "No" : "Yes"' From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Two edged sword Kenny baby. Date: 17 Nov 1995 23:07:05 GMT Lines: 49 Message-ID: <48j4ip$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48dqjs$m27@alterdial.UU.NET> <48e18k$5hj@newshost.lanl.gov> <48ggum$j69@alterdial.UU.NET> <48gtuv$6bf@newshost.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: kc5egg@eule.lanl.gov Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31920 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94427 Gerald Schmitt wrote: ost but my perspective may differ from yours. If you were >standing on my front lawn yelling the crap you post I would have >the cops haul you off maybe some folks see your sysop as a cop. But I am not on your property and skip my "crap" is very simple. It is not required reading. >No actually I don't this is deadly serious. The on going sig >about the wife in a teddy blah blah. The continuous referrals >to sexual inadequacy among hams. Psychology is not my discipline >but from my layman's point of view Freud would have a ball with >your posts and answers to most criticism. The "teddy" sig was not even mine, I stole the tag. As far as Freud or anyone else you are welcome to think whatever but I do believe "those that do, don't talk and that that don't, do." >I am glad to hear this fascination is reserved for those of >us on the net. Perhaps you are an entirely different person >at home and in school but we can only judge by the face you >wear here. I am somewhat more reserved off the net but only somewhat. I sometimes wonder about hams and their frustrations. Luckily most would not act. >Why thank you Burt but was it interesting? >Best wishes > >Jerry > You were interesting. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!udel!delmarva.com!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Two edged sword Kenny baby. Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:12:04 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <48sc64$jsm@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48dqjs$m27@alterdial.UU.NET> <48e18k$5hj@newshost.lanl.gov> <48ggum$j69@alterdial.UU.NET> <48gtuv$6bf@newshost.lanl.gov> <48rafp$5hc@cc.iu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: wnewkirk@iu.net Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.policy:31961 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94539 wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) wrote: > >maybe someone can get burt's principal on the line in amateur radio and have >him start reading the news...maybe it might make for some interesting discussion >at review time... > >Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Methinks the subject title of this message is being lost on you. It ought not be. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!inquo!nntp.uio.no!Norway.EU.net!usenet From: jpb@inko.no (Jan-Petter Bakke) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Voice operated switch Date: 16 Nov 1995 08:28:54 GMT Organization: EUnet Norway Lines: 15 Message-ID: <48eso6$c4n@oslo-nntp.eunet.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-10.inko.no Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 From jpb@inko.no Thu 16 Nov 95 07:56:52 Path: Norway.EU.net!usenet From: jpb@inko.no (Jan-Petter Bakke) hello I'm searching for a VOX implemented in a chip. Please mail me direct on jpb@inko.no if you know any supplier for this. Jappe From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: disalvo@ix.netcom.com (Samuel R. DiSalvo ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Waiting for first license Date: 19 Nov 1995 07:37:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 7 Message-ID: <48mms6$rr@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-clv1-03.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 18 11:37:42 PM PST 1995 What is the usual waiting period between taking an exam (tech) and receiving the license in the mail? (I know that the Fed shutdown is going to make the wait even longer!!!) Sam - Medina, Ohio From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wayne Green of 73 Magazine on Talk Radio Date: 17 Nov 1995 23:08:12 GMT Lines: 16 Message-ID: <48j4ks$5i6@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48hnih$etv@clue.callamer.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: kwyat@fix.net kwyatt@fix.net (Keith) wrote: >Wayne Green the publisher of 73 Magazine will be on the Art Bell >program at 1am PST. To find a local station that carries art bell Birds of a feather??? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.Edu.TW!newsserver.jvnc.net!newsserver2.jvnc.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!newsserver.sdsc.edu!news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!usenet From: ka1jy@nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What does "Q5" mean? Date: Sun, 19 Nov 1995 10:42:30 GMT Organization: HamRadio Lines: 21 Message-ID: <48n1d5$s3r@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net> Reply-To: ka1jy@nai.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ka1jy.nai.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99b.113 On Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:40:18 GMT, ring@porky.cb.att.com (WarrenRing) wrote: >In article <488h4p$124@archangel.terraport.net>, >Bryan Weaver wrote: >>Does anyone know of a FAQ giving all the CW "Q" sigs? Or do you have a list >>you could email to me? Thanks & 73. > >I would also like to know what the meaning of "Q5" is. > I've never heard anyone use "Q5" on cw. The "Q" codes have some merit on CW, but i'd bet this "Q5" stuff is more of the 10-4 good-buddy language that is so prevalent now on the ham bands. Years ago the hams i know called ops that used "Q" codes on voice lids. Now it's the norm. "We be "Q5" and 10-100 here. Destinated an' on the side standin-by - roger -" -be From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: What other think of K1OIK Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 06:54:14 EST Message-ID: <80511402302@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 28 Call removed below to protect my supporter from being attacked: id BBBJANEM ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:25:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:20:42 -0500 From: xxxxxx@aol.com To: k1oik@ccsnet.com Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. Sir, I am afraid you are entirely too witty for this newsgroup; you will have to leave. This newsgroup is devoted to bitching about who posts what and does anyone have a filter for some godawful piece of junk that is so old it has a hand crank to get it started. If you persist on being clever and witty in this area we will hunt you down and do unbelieveably evil things to your person with cooking implements and small hand tools. Just thought you would want to be forewarned... 73 -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!rainrgnews0!pacifier!news From: jgoecks Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What other think of K1OIK Date: 20 Nov 1995 20:40:09 GMT Organization: Pacifier BBS, Vancouver, Wa. ((360) 693-0325) Lines: 58 Message-ID: <48qp39$331@news.pacifier.com> References: <80511402302@ccsnet.com> <48qek0$202@roch3.eznet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip85.van3.pacifier.com cunliffe@eznet.net (John R. Cunliffe) wrote: > > k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: > > >Call removed below to protect my supporter from being attacked: > Burt you still don't know when somebody mocks YOU > > >Sir, > >I am afraid you are entirely too witty for this newsgroup; you will have to > >leave. > Saying take a hike jerk! > > This newsgroup is devoted to bitching about who posts what and does > >anyone have a filter for some godawful piece of junk that is so old it has a > >hand crank to get it started. > This news group is for real people only. > > >If you persist on being clever and witty in this area we will hunt you down > >and do unbelieveably evil things to your person with cooking implements and > >small hand tools. > Means stay away or............... > > >Just thought you would want to be forewarned... > Last warning > > John R. Cunliffe N2NEP > cunliffe@eznet.net > fax# 716-359-9368 > http://home.eznet.net/~cunliffe/ > Nah, you have to look at the whole tone of the letter. It has a few sinister elements, but overall, it seems to be supportive of heated chats on the net. A little excitement doesn't seem to hurt. If the tone had been worse, I am sure statements would have been made re: threats. Jim Goecks WA7UKS From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What other think of K1OIK Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:09:12 GMT Lines: 1 Message-ID: <48sc0o$i81@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <80511402302@ccsnet.com> <48qek0$202@roch3.eznet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: cunliffe@eznet.net cunliffe@eznet.net (John R. Cunliffe) wrote: From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ultranet.com!bigboote.WPI.EDU!news3.near.net!tristram.edc.org!news From: Kevin Kelleher Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine,rec.org.mensa.flame.flame.flame Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: 16 Nov 1995 14:37:17 GMT Organization: Education Development Center Lines: 4 Message-ID: <48fiat$rhf@tristram.edc.org> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487bgm$gnp@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <48fhq6$r0k@tristram.edc.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: tristram.edc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-URL: news:48fhq6$r0k@tristram.edc.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52143 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4610 rec.pyrotechnics:37697 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17153 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12647 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21466 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11607 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94393 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31896 rec.radio.amateur.space:5762 rec.radio.cb:24481 rec.radio.noncomm:4985 rec.radio.scanner:40768 rec.radio.shortwave:66141 rec.radio.swap:51088 rec.running:45387 rec.scouting:37735 rec.scuba:80465 rec.skiing.alpine:33071 After reading the original "sexy hams" message, I see that the hams in question where not anatomical, but radio hams. Sorry. I just assumed that in a rec.running, hams were the... well you know. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!infoseek.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news3.digex.net!news1.digex.net!news.spaceworks.com!news.spaceworks.com!not-for-mail From: billhar@spaceworks.com (bill harris) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: 16 Nov 1995 02:20:46 -0500 Organization: SpaceWorks, Incorporated Lines: 12 Sender: news@news.spaceworks.com Message-ID: <48eooe$pd9@mars.spaceworks.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.spaceworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52148 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4612 rec.pyrotechnics:37698 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17155 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12650 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21467 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11610 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94397 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31899 rec.radio.amateur.space:5764 rec.radio.cb:24483 rec.radio.noncomm:4986 rec.radio.scanner:40773 rec.radio.shortwave:66146 rec.radio.swap:51093 rec.roller-coaster:23218 rec.running:45394 rec.scouting:37737 rec.scuba:80472 rec.skiing.alpine:33079 >>I've only been an amateur radio operator for 18 years and I would have to (snip) >>Don't let the bad apples spoil the excitement that can be found in amateur >>radio, there is something there for everyone (wives/girlfriends too). >Speaking of HAM radios, could this group help me out? Every time I go and >dive with my radio set, the fuse blows. What's the trick here? Next time you dive make sure there is water in the pool. Bill - K5MIL From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.missouri.edu!news From: Sarah Godfrey Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.ra Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: 16 Nov 1995 18:41:55 GMT Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Lines: 3 Message-ID: <48g0lj$pss@news.missouri.edu> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac1.phlab.missouri.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-URL: news:48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52152 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4613 rec.pyrotechnics:37702 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17162 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12654 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21476 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11615 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94405 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31902 rec.radio.amateur.space:5766 rec.radio.cb:24488 What is all this??? From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!news.mind.net!chi-news.cic.net!io.org!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.ultranet.com!bigboote.WPI.EDU!news3.near.net!tristram.edc.org!news From: Kevin Kelleher Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: 16 Nov 1995 14:28:22 GMT Organization: Education Development Center Lines: 4 Message-ID: <48fhq6$r0k@tristram.edc.org> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487bgm$gnp@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tristram.edc.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) X-URL: news:487bgm$gnp@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52153 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4614 rec.pyrotechnics:37703 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17163 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12655 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21477 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11616 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94407 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31904 rec.radio.amateur.space:5768 rec.radio.cb:24491 rec.radio.noncomm:4987 rec.radio.scanner:40791 rec.radio.shortwave:66153 rec.radio.swap:51108 rec.running:45410 rec.scouting:37747 rec.scuba:80487 rec.skiing.alpine:33099 Please add rec.org.mensa.flame.flame.flame to this thread. And let me say that I love running behind a woman with sexy hams. From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!paladin.american.edu!hookup!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!grizzarv From: grizzarv@indirect.com (Robert V. Grizzard) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 17 Nov 1995 01:23:00 GMT Organization: Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 12 Message-ID: <48go5l$sia@globe.indirect.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> <48g0lj$pss@news.missouri.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: bud.indirect.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52175 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4618 rec.pyrotechnics:37716 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17179 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12671 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21508 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11626 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94424 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31918 rec.radio.amateur.space:5772 rec.radio.cb:24502 Sarah Godfrey (c594477@showme.missouri.edu.) wrote: : What is all this??? Sarah, this is a thread with a hitherto untrimmed followup-to line. Since this doesn't fit anywhere else in the known ham radio universe, I'm going to arbitrarily set the followups to rec.radio.amateur.misc. I don't know where it started from. KG7YY (posting from rec.pyrotechnics) From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.starlink.com!usenet From: Bill Funk Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: 18 Nov 1995 18:10:20 GMT Organization: Star Link Internet Services Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48l7ic$bqa@pegasus.starlink.com> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-29.starlink.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52190 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4623 rec.pyrotechnics:37746 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17199 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12681 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21530 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11643 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94460 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31938 rec.radio.amateur.space:5778 rec.radio.cb:24518 rec.radio.noncomm:4994 rec.radio.scanner:40855 rec.radio.shortwave:66218 rec.radio.swap:51222 rec.roller-coaster:23235 rec.running:45494 rec.scouting:37790 rec.scuba:80610 rec.skiing.alpine:33248 >Speaking of HAM radios, could this group help me out? Every time I go and >dive with my radio set, the fuse blows. What's the trick here? > Ah, yes... There was a time when having a HAM ticket *meant* something... When a fuse blows consistantly, it's because there's more current going thru the fuse than the fuse is rated to carry. The fuse, being a safety device, blows to prevent this excess current from flowing, possibly damaging something. Check to make sure the fuse is the proper rating for the gear. Do *not* replace it with a higher-rated fuse! If it is the correct fuse, then the gear is drawing too much current. This needs to be corrected. Maybe it's a short in the power line, maybe the gear is not a boat anchor. Either extreme, and all points in between should be checked, and corrected. Good luck. Bill From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:24 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,re Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!ncar!uchinews!gw2.att.com!oucsboss!pc176x1.phy.ohiou.edu!user From: tip@mercury.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pc176x1.phy.ohiou.edu Message-ID: Sender: postmaster@pc176x1.phy.ohiou.edu X-Nntp-Posting-Date: Mon Nov 20 15:43:47 1995 Organization: AI Chem Lab References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> <48l7ic$bqa@pegasus.starlink.com> <48q0d2$nm8@news.cuny.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:43:48 GMT Lines: 39 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17242 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12716 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21589 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11674 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94550 rec.radio.amateur.policy:31968 rec.radio.amateur.space:5794 rec.radio.cb:24565 rec.radio.noncomm:4998 rec.radio.scanner:40944 rec.radio.shortwave:66305 In article <48q0d2$nm8@news.cuny.edu>, Bob Crownfield wrote: > > Bill Funk wrote: > > > >>Speaking of HAM radios, could this group help me out? Every time I go and > >>dive with my radio set, the fuse blows. What's the trick here? > >> > > > >Ah, yes... > >There was a time when having a HAM ticket *meant* something... > >When a fuse blows consistantly, it's because there's more current going > >thru the fuse than the fuse is rated to carry. The fuse, being a safety > >device, blows to prevent this excess current from flowing, possibly > >damaging something. > >Check to make sure the fuse is the proper rating for the gear. Do *not* > >replace it with a higher-rated fuse! If it is the correct fuse, then the > >gear is drawing too much current. This needs to be corrected. Maybe it's a > >short in the power line, maybe the gear is not a boat anchor. Either > >extreme, and all points in between should be checked, and corrected. > >Good luck. > >Bill > > > > Bill: > Why are you talking about radios in rec.scuba? How did this ham > chat get lost in rec.scuba in the first place? Personally, I think a group of less than laudable people got together and decided to have fun by posting a series of totally meaningless messages in a set of totally inappropriate places. Theater of the absurd. Okay guys, we've seen it; I give it a 3 on difficulty and a 4 on creativity. No medal, not even honorable mention. So, wrap up the production, go away... don't call us, we'll call you. --- If I was smart, I'd have a clever .sig From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:25 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!simtel!news3.noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48d6iv$j30@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 19:14:37 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com Christopher K Greenhalgh (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : >As I said earlier, my solution to the problem is an answering machine with : >two voicemail boxes. The phone simply doesn't ring. Yes, it annoys some of : >my friends that they have to go through the screening process, but they do : >understand why it's necessary. : Ok Jim, but wont those people continue to call back? They sure do at my house. If you mean my friends, or others to whom I have given my number, yes, they do call back. I tell them in advance that they will always get the machine, unless they plan to call back right away, then I flip the ringer to "on." Otherwise, their instructions are to talk for a few minutes, and I will pick up if at home. As far as telemarketers, they may call back, but they will always get the machine. Not one has ever left a message, which would not be returned, anyway. Jim From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!realtime.net!bga.com!kr4ah From: kr4ah@bga.com (John Meaker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 18 Nov 1995 05:40:16 GMT Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Lines: 43 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48jrk0$8n4@giga.bga.com> References: <48g3ld$7q5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jake.bga.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Christopher K Greenhalgh (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: [DISCUSSION OF CALLER ID DELETED] : "Time wasted"!? Are you kidding!? : : Your phone rings....you run to your IDer...you look at the number...you : try to recall if its a ligit call...while your doing this, the machine picks : up...they may or may not leave a message...either way, they are going to call : back...you now have a tape full of messages, which takes up space, that you : have to erase! My caller ID phone rings with a different tone for friends, so that I don't have to get to the phone to tell if I want to answer it. The newer answering machines will give different messages depending on who calls. That means that if I have a message for you, such as, "I'm not home, but you can call me on '94," you can get that. For my brother who isn't a ham, the message would be different. For the junk caller who has made 10 of the last 24 calls, the message would again be different. (BTW, I knew they were pests, but I didn't realize it was that bad until I looked just now.) : And remember you do this every day. Not really. In the last 28 days there were only 24 calls, 17 were junk, (10 from one source) and the other 7 were legitimate. : Well my friend, the jokes on you...they ARE wasting your time. It wasn't that long ago that hams played with new technology. Why? Just because it was there. There is a use for this new-fangled toy. Let's not be afraid of what we don't understand; lets get back to the spirit of the amateur pioneers and just play with this stuff. How could we use it? Keeping away the junk calls (70% in my case), personalized message boxes and I'm sure there are other uses. In the good old days, folks said that radio was a waste of time also. I'll admit it, the jokes on me... I AM wasting my time, but what fun I'm having in the process. -- John Meaker -=- kr4ah From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gamma7@ix.netcom.com (J. Duffy Beischel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 14:36:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <48ctsn$gn3@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48aldj$7v0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-cin2-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Nov 15 6:36:08 AM PST 1995 In <48aldj$7v0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >On most providers, and many in-house phone networks, there is no option >to "disable" the block. > Then the solution is simple, don't block your number in the first place. Do you have something to hide? Do you make harrassing calls? Why would a business block their number? There is also a distinct difference between an intentional block and the system simply not being able to provide the number. Remember, only an intentional block is blocked by the caller i.d. box. Regards, Duffy From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:29 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!cuhknntp!hpg30a.csc.cuhk.hk!agate!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!wb6w From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48d7bs$8oa@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48g3ld$7q5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 06:52:50 GMT Lines: 26 Sender: wb6w@netcom10.netcom.com Well...as in most alleged technological advances, you can use CID and get both it benefits and drawbacks or not use CID and get the benefits and drawbacks of that! You all will simply have to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of each option in the context of your own situation and choose the option that you think is best for you. Some of you will choose to block CID and some won't. Some of you will choose to deepsix calls with CID blocked and some won't. If you want to ignore CID blocked calls, it seems better to have your own box at home that does this. there are two reasons. The first is that it puts you in charge of the conditions under which your phone will ring - something that telco may or may not agree to. Second, unwanted calls will in fact be answered by your machine, thus requireing the caller (perhaps) to pay for his folly. Telemarketers are awful annoying. I think the best tactic is to make the calls as expensive for them as possible. When I don't have something more important to do, I'll spend as much time as possible listening to them (speaker phones make this easy if you're cooking dinner, washing dishes or sitting on the throne) and then not buy anything. If enough people do this - or just don't buy the stuff - telemarketing will be abandoned as unproductive. I NEVER buy from telemarketers - even if they're selling something I want, for just this reason. - Glenn From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!atlantis.utmb.edu!news.tamu.edu!tam2000!wej3715 From: wej3715@tam2000.tamu.edu (Walter Eric Johnson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 18 Nov 1995 11:20:30 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48kfhu$68q@news.tamu.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajcu$pus@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48andh$8bn@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48d7bs$8oa@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48g3ld$7q5@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: tam2000.tamu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Glenn Thomas (wb6w@netcom.com) wrote: : I NEVER buy from telemarketers - even if : they're selling something I want, for just this reason. There are other reasons, too. They may just be trying to get your credit card number. You may never get any merchandise while they charge your card to the limit. What I normally do is hang up on people as soon as I realize they are selling something -- no "not interested", no "f___ you", just a hangup. Occasionally though, I have tried to catch them off guard. One of the best was the time a saleswoman asked for Mrs. Johnson. I replied that she couldn't talk to her because she was being punished and was not allowed to speak to anyone at all. Eric Johnson From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gamma7@ix.netcom.com (J. Duffy Beischel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 15 Nov 1995 14:32:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 56 Message-ID: <48ctm7$8nd@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <485r92$7cs@news2.ucsd.edu> <487i9f$22og@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <488h7h$pje@osshe.edu> <48adpq$6l4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-cin2-06.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Nov 15 6:32:39 AM PST 1995 In <48adpq$6l4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: > >IMHO, this whole thread has snowballed to the size of a house. A telephone >is a duplex communication device. If you want to communicate, lift up the >receiver. If you dont wish to communicate, then dont! Its that simple. > >I too became victim of a 'anonymous caller' blocked number. My office phone >is part of their own network, and 'id' as anonymous to caller ID boxes. My office is part of a network that will provide the i.d. when I call home. Second, if the phone making the call has not deliberately block the number, but only not supported the caller i.d. function, the display on the receiving end will say "out of area." These calls are not blocked by automated devices. The automated rejection feature will only block a call that has had the caller i.d. deliberately turned off. It can be turned off on a per call basis, by the phone company when you have an unlisted number, or by a company that deliberately turns it off at their PBX. >This guy that wanted me to call him, had 'anonymous call' blocker on, and I >got the recording telling me to "..unblock..". Since I was unable...I did >not call him. Later he called, and wondered why I didnt call him. I informed >him why, and also that I thought it was HIS fault...not mine. > If you look in your phone book, you can get the code sequence to disable the call block. It is just as simple as dialing a few number before dialing your number for a per call block. >Again IMHO, people with caller ID are either paranoid, deadbeats, or both. >Its VERY easy for me to say to a tele-marketing rep, "Thanks for the call, >but Im not interested." and promptly hang up. It is not being paranoid to ask those that call you to be identified. Plenty of telemarketing companies call, and as long as they are not intentionally blocking their numbers, we take their calls. There is something funny about a company that calls you on the phone and does not want you to know where they are calling from. Seems like a possible scam. What caller i.d. has done for us is stopping the harrassment calls. If you call as a joke, we'll know who you are. Regards, Duffy From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats ur name Radio Shack Date: 19 Nov 1995 23:02:51 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 19 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48od2r$8ad@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <47lga4$1ki@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48ajh6$psq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <48aldj$7v0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <48o03k$c6n@vivanews.vivanet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <48o03k$c6n@vivanews.vivanet.com>, Rich Mulvey wrote: >: On most providers, and many in-house phone networks, there is no option >: to "disable" the block. > > Far from it. There's a legal requirement that residential service >recipients MUST be able to disable the blocking. Just ask your phone >company for instructions. > I stand corrected...providers do indeed offer 'unblocking', however, my large company in-house network, as I stated before, do not. :( -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Tue Nov 21 19:24:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!news.mira.net.au!core.apana.org.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!warrane.connect.com.au!gidora.kralizec.net.au!not-for-mail From: richardm@zeta.org.au (Richard Murnane) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WIA Web page now on line Date: 18 Nov 1995 11:09:26 +1100 Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Lines: 13 Message-ID: <48j87m$t8o@godzilla.zeta.org.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: godzilla.zeta.org.au Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:256 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94441 Hi all, The New South Wales Division of the Wireless Institute of Australia, now has its own WWW page. The URL is http://sydney.dialix.oz.au/~wiansw The pages are still being developed, so I would appreciate any comments and feedback you have. 73 Richard VK2SKY From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:03 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!infoseek.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!wa2ise From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Subject: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Message-ID: Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 04:57:36 GMT Lines: 11 Sender: wa2ise@netcom17.netcom.com First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" (who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. Someone else IDed as "W4UVS" (again, may not be real). At around 3:45 to 4:30 zulu on Nov 22 zulu. Did the people of 14.313 move down to here? :-( t From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:04 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vukq$dli@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:26:44 GMT Lines: 23 Sender: charles1@netcom17.netcom.com In article <48vukq$dli@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, Jon Shay wrote: >In wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) >writes: >> >>First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an >>old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and >>insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played >>music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz >>instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" >>(who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ >>said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. Someone else IDed as >>"W4UVS" (again, may not be real). At around 3:45 to 4:30 zulu on >>Nov 22 zulu. >> >>Did the people of 14.313 move down to here? :-( t > >That's nothing....N2YEE is a Tech......another lamer! >Big Jon.....KC5MOP Listen to 3853 sometime. Or other 80 meter "regulars". Seems 80 meters is the CB band of HAM radio. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Date: 23 Nov 1995 19:30:41 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 8 Message-ID: <492i51$l4c$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: So what? 75 mtrs is far more fun than listening to the dying old men that are so pervasive in the hobby. Most hams are poorly read, inarticulate and poor conversationalists. 75 mtrs offers cheap thrills and folks that don't take themselves or the hobby seriously. -mike -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.sunbelt.net!chm.tec.sc.us!ddepew From: ddepew@cmt.chm.tec.sc.us (DORR DEPEW) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Date: 22 Nov 95 15:42:32 EST Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access Lines: 18 Message-ID: <1995Nov22.154232@chm.tec.sc.us> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: cmt.chm.tec.sc.us In article , wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) writes: > Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz > instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" > (who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ > said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. No, you weren't imagining things, Bob! 80 meters has become the new hangout of choice for "hams" who think amateur radio is CB on steroids. It's disgraceful some of the garbage that goes on...frequency hogging, rudeness, obscenities, etc. Just another reason why my Mode switch stays on CW and my mike isn't plugged in! ;-) 73, Dorr N4QIX From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!castle.nando.net!news From: Dave Hockaday Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:29:22 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access Lines: 27 Message-ID: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> References: <805622147501@inferno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail1605.nando.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: vector@inferno.com vector@inferno.com wrote: >73>I'm always amused at these Johnny come lately's like this punk Drew >73>KF4DDM who equate passing a code test with intelligence. We >73>certainly don't need anymore losers like this fool KF4DDM in the >73>hobby. >73>mike wa4d >73>-- >73>Mike Whatley >hi mike. >go to hell. >yes, it sure sucks when someone (drew) takes the shit you've been >rubbing in his and many other no-code advocates (cw keeps the lids out) >and rubs it back in yours. why is it that when people have the shit >they've been rubbing in others faces for so long rubbed in theirs, it >suddenly tastes so foreign to them? > >he made a statement. >he's right on the money. > > >greg > >kd6ven Nice language From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 10:52:07 PST Message-ID: <805622147501@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 28 73>I'm always amused at these Johnny come lately's like this punk Drew 73>KF4DDM who equate passing a code test with intelligence. We 73>certainly don't need anymore losers like this fool KF4DDM in the 73>hobby. 73>mike wa4d 73>-- 73>Mike Whatley hi mike. go to hell. yes, it sure sucks when someone (drew) takes the shit you've been rubbing in his and many other no-code advocates (cw keeps the lids out) and rubs it back in yours. why is it that when people have the shit they've been rubbing in others faces for so long rubbed in theirs, it suddenly tastes so foreign to them? he made a statement. he's right on the money. greg kd6ven From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 10:52:07 PST Message-ID: <8056221475402@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 23 KD>In article <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, KD> Drew Durigan wrote: KD>>And just think...these guys ALL passed 13WPM Morse tests! KD>> KD>>Some lid filter, sin't it? KD>You're assuming that they all used their real callsigns, aren't you? KD>MD KD>-- KD>-- KD>-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" KD>-- doesn't matter if they used their real callsigns or not. i wouldn't bother going out to purchase a $1500 HF rig just to hoot and holler on 80M. i don't have the required license class and it would be a waste of money to me. greg kd6ven From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:18:32 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> Greg-- Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? Pretty lame. Drew and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. (Real Hams have General class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here soon enough and you and your generation will be rendered irelevant in addition to you impotence. Ciao- -mike -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 17:45:49 PST Message-ID: <8057-292566402@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 35 73>Greg-- 73>Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? 73>Pretty lame. from what i gather, you seem to have more a problem dealing with fecal matter than i do. 73>Drew and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. (Real 73>Hams have General class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really no, you're the only real ham here, and you've demonstrated it in your intelligent attacks against those you feel threatened by. 73>matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here 73>soon enough and you and your generation will be rendered irelevant 73>in addition to you impotence. no they won't, and you don't see me whining about the whole issue like you are. and as far as impotence goes, that has no relevance to the conversation. i get sex more in a week than you probably do in a year. 73>Ciao- 73>-mike 73>-- 73>Mike Whatley see you in hell. greg kd6ven From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:11 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 09:09:42 GMT References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.34 Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM Lines: 22 In article , wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) wrote: -> First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an -> old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and -> insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played -> music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz -> instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" -> (who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ -> said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. Someone else IDed as -> "W4UVS" (again, may not be real). At around 3:45 to 4:30 zulu on -> Nov 22 zulu. -> -> Did the people of 14.313 move down to here? :-( t No, I strongly believe that what you heard was in fact K1OIK, Burt Fisher! -- Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ ve7zvz@dowco.com Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before" From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: 23 Nov 1995 21:36:40 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <1995nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 In article , wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) >wrote: > >-> First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an >-> old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and >-> insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played >-> music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz >-> instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" >-> (who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ >-> said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. And just think...these guys ALL passed 13WPM Morse tests! Some lid filter, sin't it? -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: 23 Nov 1995 20:04:14 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4935me$am6@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <1995nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >And just think...these guys ALL passed 13WPM Morse tests! > >Some lid filter, sin't it? You're assuming that they all used their real callsigns, aren't you? MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Gareth Crispell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: 25 Nov 1995 03:35:12 GMT Organization: Craigville Conference Center Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4962tg$32v@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <1995nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4935me$am6@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s202.ccsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) >>Some lid filter, sin't it? > >You're assuming that they all used their real callsigns, aren't you? As bad as the lid situation is ,I think it would be a thousand times worse if they abolished all test requirments as some have suggested. Just think,you could buy an HF rig at your local K-mart. N1MSV ..as for the mysteries of the Universe...they knew them not... And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble. gareth e-mail stranger@ccsnet.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: 26 Nov 1995 00:47:14 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <498v12$1k9@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <1995nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4935me$am6@anomaly.ideamation.com> <4962tg$32v@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <4962tg$32v@alterdial.UU.NET>, Gareth Crispell wrote: > Just think, you could buy an HF rig at your local K-mart. Yeah, that's almost as bad as being able to buy a 2 meter radio at Radio Shack. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:15 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!explorer.csc.com!wb3ffv!usenet From: hturn@pelican.davlin.net (Henry Turner) Subject: Re: 6m opening 11/26 0046Z Sender: usenet@abs.net Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 04:14:39 GMT X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ip120.davlin.net References: <498lua$ohg@omnifest.uwm.edu> Organization: ABSnet Internet Services, Inc. - info@abs.net - (410)-361-8160 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Lines: 10 fedpress@omnifest.uwm.edu (Rick Kissell) wrote: >Did anyone else catch the (apparently brief) 6m opening Saturday evening? I, KC5FLJ, EL17 worked C01OTA in northern Cuba, I could not copy anyone else. Happy DX de KC5FLJ....Henry in EL17 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:17 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) Subject: Re: 6m question Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:43:49 GMT References: <1854142133-951124015234@score1.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.48 Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM Lines: 26 In article <1854142133-951124015234@score1.com>, robert.k.mcclure@f564.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert K Mcclure) wrote: -> After having read a lot of the posts about 6m no-code ham (possibility?), -> I would like to pose the following question: with a 6m mobile rig and say, a -> quarter wave antenna, along with say, 25 watts for grins, what would be the -> optimum distance for an FM contact, without skip, and what it would it be -> for SSB without skip. -> I am currently a tech nocode but did get my first novice ticket in 1967, -> and I am studying my code to upgrade to plus then General, and I am thinking -> about my next radio, and this 6m is starting to sound kinda fun. An optimum contact would be from where you are in Houston to where I am in Vancouver, but the problem is very few listen for FM DX, I dont know anyone that does. We sit on 50.125 listening intently for USB. This last summer, stations in our area worked Japan, all over North America, some even managed Europe. 6M isn't just for no codes, its just plain fun for all. -- Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89 ve7zvz@dowco.com Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before" Coquitlam Radio Club VE7SCC - "The Satellite Seniors" From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!rhiii From: rhiii@delphi.com (Richard Harrison) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6m question Date: 25 Nov 1995 10:55:41 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 13 Message-ID: <9511250500592.The_Win-D.rhiii@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com X-To: Richard Harrison In article <1854142133-951124015234@score1.com>, robert.k.mcclure@f564.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert K Mcclure) writes: > After having read a lot of the posts about 6m no-code ham (possibility?), > I would like to pose the following question: with a 6m mobile rig and say, a > quarter wave antenna, along with say, 25 watts for grins, what would be the > optimum distance for an FM contact, without skip, and what it would it be > for SSB without skip. The operative phrase in your question is *without skip*. Expect similar coverage as you've experienced on 2m simplex (FM and SSB). As other post have already discussed, E and F openings can be quite exciting. de Richard/NT2Z From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!i-2000.com!usenet From: hmn@i-2000.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: <<< Amateur Radio Tower Problems >>> Date: 24 Nov 1995 17:06:02 GMT Organization: I-2000 Inc. - Internet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <494u1q$3cq@i-2000.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hmn.dh.i-2000.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Are you having problems with your local town regarding the installation of your amateur radio tower or antenna. See what The Radio Amateurs Defense & Information Organization (R.A.D.I.O. inc.) is doing to help amateur radio operators. Check out the Home Page for R.A.D.I.O. at http://www.islandlinc.com/radio/radio.htm - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - H. Mark Nadel Levittown, New York, USA hmn@I-2000.com Amateur Radio Station NK2T / AFA1FX - - - "Always Available Through Technology" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: A sample from my supporters. Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 06:32:45 EST Message-ID: <805513334101@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 23 From: ka1jy@nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Reply-To: ka1jy@nai.net On 16 Nov 1995 16:03:24 -0500, gnewbe2635@aol.com (GNewbe2635) wrote: >if you are tired (like I am) of seeing meaningless, ego driven diatribe >posted and crossposted by Burt Fisher all over the Amateur Radio > Do you know what is even more tiring? Seeing all the complaints about Burt cross-posted all over the amateur groups. Why don't you and all the other thin skinned babies that Burt seems to 'offend' so much just ignore him. Maybe he bothers you so much because he hits a little too close to home for your our tender ego. -be -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) Subject: Re: A sample from my supporters. Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:49:44 GMT References: <805513334101@ccsnet.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.48 Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM Lines: 25 In article <805513334101@ccsnet.com>, k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: -> From: ka1jy@nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) -> Reply-To: ka1jy@nai.net -> -> On 16 Nov 1995 16:03:24 -0500, gnewbe2635@aol.com (GNewbe2635) wrote: -> >if you are tired (like I am) of seeing meaningless, ego driven diatribe -> >posted and crossposted by Burt Fisher all over the Amateur Radio -> > -> -> Do you know what is even more tiring? Seeing all the complaints -> about Burt cross-posted all over the amateur groups. Why don't you -> and all the other thin skinned babies that Burt seems to 'offend' so -> much just ignore him. Maybe he bothers you so much because he hits a -> little too close to home for your our tender ego. That doesn't prove anything Burt, you can find people on the Internet that support the right to be a pedophile. -- Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ CN89 ve7zvz@dowco.com Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before" Coquitlam Radio Club VE7SCC - "The Satellite Seniors" From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!psgrain!nntp.teleport.com!mscott From: mscott@teleport.com (Mark S. Dunlop) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Alinco 6 mtr rig mods??? Date: 22 Nov 1995 01:06:37 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <48tt2t$c90@maureen.teleport.com> References: <47vd4i$l5p@maureen.teleport.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: linda.teleport.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] nunnya (narc@teleport.com) wrote: : i bought this dang alinco 6 mtr mobile, and i cant even recieve cordless : phones, i have heard that there is a recieve mod with a simple keystroke : if anyone has any mods for it, let me know.... : jeff : narc@teleport.com Just buy a scanner, Jeff. I'm sure the local Radio Shack can help you, or are you afraid to go there and admit that you have a problem and need assistance? Your pal, Mark From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!purdue!yuma!usenet From: wakko@holly.colostate.edu (JiNX) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: alinco dj-g5t Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:16:32 GMT Organization: EViL LiVE Lines: 10 Message-ID: <48tj6f$112f@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1303.slip.colostate.edu X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21599 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94555 does anyone, per chance, have the mod for the dj-g5t? I had a 580 and G1T, but there are no red and blue wire pairs in this new radio. Only a small blue wire that looks like it's jumping something. thanks & 73 Al KB0PYY From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:24 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ulowell.uml.edu!umassd.edu!news.umass.edu!news.hampshire.edu!hamp!aswNS From: aswNS@hamp.hampshire.edu (Albert S Woodhull) Subject: Amateur radio operators in Mozambique Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 19:43:26 GMT Organization: Hampshire College, Amherst MA X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 98 Theo Vlaar, PA3CBH, ex-YN1TV, now working in Mozambique and licensed as C91BT, asked me to pass on the following information for the benefit of anyone interested. ---------------------------- From theo@funkzo.uem.mz Wed Nov 22 14:23:16 1995 Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1995 20:15:45 From: Theodore Peter Vlaar Subject: Call Mozambique The following information has been given to me by Anselmo Ferrao (C91D) who is responsable for the frequency administration of the national Telecomunications Authorities (TDM) in Mozambique and president of the Radio Amateur League of Mozambique. I want to ask you to pass this info further to be taken up in the ARRL Call Book. Theo Vlaar (C91BT/PA3CBH) List of HAMs in Mozambique as registered per november 1, 1995 C91A FABBRI SILVANO, RUA DE MUKUMBURA #415, MAPUTO C91AA RICARDO PERDOMO RIVERO, AV VALDMIR LENIN XXXIII, MAPUTO C91AB CORNELIO FOCAS MARINO, MATOLA, MAPUTO C91AC MIGAEL PERDOMO COMPANIONI,AV. VALDMIR LENINE XXXIII, MAPUTO A91AF PENG GOERGE, RUA CAPITAIS DA SENA, BEIRA C91AG AMBROSIO ASARIAS MANICA, CP 238, AV FILIPE SAMUEL MAGAIA 1247,MAPUTO C91AH REMO MAINE/PADRE BERNARDO, RUA COMANDANTE JOAO BELO 208, MAPUTO C94AI JOSE MARTINS DIAS,FADM-TROPAS ESPECIAS B.A. DE NACALA, NACALA C91AJ ANTONIO JOSE ROXO LEAO,MAPUTO C91AL GEORGE CHAMBENE, SPAC, MAPUTO C91AM C93AN HIRO ISHIKAWA, MISSION TO MOZ. CP 3, GONDOLA-MANICA C91AQ MATHIAL PIERRE,MAPUTO C91AT C93AW C91AZ HENRIQUES MANUEL NUNES COSTA,RUA FERNAO LOPES #225, MAPUTO C91B FABBRIE DANIELA, RUA DE MAKUMBURA #415, MAPUTO C94BA JOHN MICHAEL NEARI,NACALA-PORTO C91BB ANTONIO NUNES COSTA, TELECOM, MAPUTO C91BC C91BI IBRAIMO AMADE IBRAIMO, AV. KARL MARX #969,MAPUTO C91BL ARLINDO GOMES DOS SANTOS,RUA DA MALHAGALENE #120,MAPUTO C91BP JOAO PEDRO DE NASCIMENTO PINTO, AV. AGOSTINHO NETO 1- ANDAR,MAPUTO C91BR BONNA RUTH RAY,AV ORIENTAL #920 CEL.3 Q.7,MACHAVA-MAPUTO C91BT THEODORE PETER VLAAR, RUA FERNANDO PESSOA #17, MAPUTO C91C CARLOS SANTOS,RUA FERNANDO LOPES #225, MAPUTO C91CA ABILIO AUGUSTO SOARES,UNICENTRAL-AV. ARMANDO TIVANE #887, MAPUTO C91CB DANIEL SWEDBERG,AV. MARTIRES DE MUEDA #18 FLAT 182, MAPUTO C91CC JOSE M. MACHADO DA CRUZ ALVES DAVID, AV. HO CHI MIN #1554, MAPUTO C91CD SILVAN KLINGEBIEL,MAPUTO C91CE JOSE ESPIRITO SANTOS, RUA VICENTE COELHO #7, MATOLA C91CF SELWYN BROWN STAPLES, RUA VICENTE COELHO #11, MATOLA C91CG HELIOD. ESPIRITO SANTO DOS SANTOS,PRACETA MAGUIGUANA #105 1, MAPUTO C91CH FERNANDA SANTOS C.F.DOS SANTOS,RUA DA MALHANGALENE #120, MAPUTO C91CI ALIZIRA BRANCA F.MARTINS DA SILVA, RUA VICENTE COELHO #7,MATOLA C91CJ M.EDITA ROMARIZ SANTOS JOSE, RUA FERNANDO LOPES #225, MAPUTO C91D ANSELMO FERRAO, C.P. 25, MAPUTO C91E PHIL GRAY, COMPUTER SECT. CARE, MAPUTO C91F FLAVIO VIRGILIO BUQUE, AV. FILIPE SAMUEL MAGAIA, MAPUTO C91G JIRI SWARTZ, BOANE BONIFICA, MAPUTO C91H FRANCISCO DE F. PACHECO, EDICREL, MAPUTO C91I ROBERT S. JOHNSON, AV. AHMED SEKOU TOURE, MAPUTO C91L LEO ILIMAR HEINONEM, RESIDENT IN REP. SOUTH AFRICA C91M HUBERTUS PIETER VAN DER, RESIDENT IN REP. SOUTH AFRICA C93N ROBERT MICH. WRIGHT, PORTO DA BEIRA, BEIRA C93Q RALPH KARHAMAR, CONSULADO DA SUECIA, BEIRA C91U ROGER GINGERICH, AIR SERVICE, MAPUTO C91V ANTONIO DA CON CHILAULE, TDM C.P. 25, MAPUTO C91Y FERNANDO INACIO ROMAO, MAPUTO C91K PAULO SERGIO VIETES SANTOS, NAMPULA The president of the Radio Amateur Club (LRAM - Liga de Radio Amadores de Mocambique) is eng. Anselmo Ferrao, TDM Frequencias, C.P. 25, Maputo, Mozambique). The address of the radio amateur club of mozambique is: LRAM, Caixa Postal # 16, Maputo, Mozambique 73 theo C91BT/PA3CBH ================================================================== Theodore Peter Vlaar e-mail:theo@funkzo.uem.mz Rua Fernando Pessoa 17, Maputo, Mozambique Tel: ++258-1-416429 ================================================================== From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Another type of response that I get. Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 01:27:26 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 45 Message-ID: <498fb3$3l3@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <8057-311526201@ccsnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an43.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: >WARNING there is a lot of profanity below in the messages sent to me. >DO NOT read if it offends you. >Do you approve of this type of message in MY case? >Do you think this is what I have earned? Hmmmm , you appear to be incredibly naive. If I posted all the general insults, put downs and controversial messages that you do, receiving a message like the one below would be the very MINIMUM that I would expect. In my humble opinion wearing a Burt Fisher name tag at Dayton would be akin to Mark Furhman appearing at a Louis Farrakhan rally. Gary >Return-Path: jdehry@ix.netcom.com >Received: from ix9.ix.netcom.com by ccsnet.com with smtp >id BCCDAGDN ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:35:06 -0500 >Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:37:51 -0800 >From: jdehry@ix.netcom.com (S. D. ) >Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... >To: Burt Fisher >Tell youre wife she can suck my dick you fucking piece of shit!!! >-- >******************************************************************* >* Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * >* http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * >* Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * -- garyn@tir.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!calvino.alaska.net!usenet From: Bob Engberg Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Any High Schools with Packet? Date: 22 Nov 1995 23:59:39 GMT Organization: SAIC Lines: 9 Message-ID: <490dhb$39c@calvino.alaska.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: goodnews.saic.alaska.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3C sun4m) X-URL: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc Are there any high schools out there with Packet? A local high school (wl7xk@kl7aa.#NAK.AK.USA.NOAM) would like to exchange messages with you. Tnx -- Bob Engberg phone: 907-272-7108 e-mail: engberg@saic.alaska.net From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!cleese.nas.com!news From: fjb@sos.net (Fred & Julie Burger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Any radio clubs near Morro Bay, California? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 07:01:00 GMT Organization: Network Access Services, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <48uhrd$722@cleese.nas.com> Reply-To: fjb@sos.net NNTP-Posting-Host: stan-dialup05.sos.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I have some friends that just moved to Morro Bay, California and are interested in ham radio and need a place to start. I told them I'd post something and try to find local clubs in their area. Anybody know of any? Please respond via e-mail, Thanks! 73, de KH6IDF Fred Burger fjb@sos.net From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.netrail.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!scsing.switch.ch!news.rccn.net!titan.ci.ua.pt!zeus.ci.ua.pt!etfalcao From: etfalcao@ci.ua.pt (Pedro Monica) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Anyone know where is last BPQ??? Date: 23 Nov 1995 20:09:02 GMT Organization: Universidade de Aveiro, Portugal Lines: 15 Message-ID: <492kcu$4nd@titan.ci.ua.pt> NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.ci.ua.pt X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hello everyone, Thank you for read this message. If anyone knows where is the last version of BPQ, I think is BPQ408A, please please please tell me. send a reply of for E-Mail: etfalcao@ua.pt All the best from Pedro Pais - CT1DNF - -- Pedro Filipe Monica Falcao Pais [ E-Mail: etfalcao@ua.pt R. Banda da Amizade N.6 4 Dto. [ Ham Callsign : CT1DNF 3800 AVEIRO [ Packet: CT1DNF@CT1EDY.CTAV.PRT.EU PORTUGAL [ Tel.: +351 34 383541 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: William_A._Kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.COM (William A. Kirsanoff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Anyone with experiance: Moto. Single Chip Receiver? Date: 22 Nov 95 23:31:59 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 26 Message-ID: <9510228170.AA817082960@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hello all. Does anyone out there have any experience with designing a circuit for 440 MHz receive using the Motorola MC3362/3 FM receiver chips? These are good to 200 MHz using the internal LO, and to 450 MHz with an external LO. I am looking for an external LO circuit for this application. I want to build a low cost receiver for a local 440 repeater that broadcasts seismograph telemetry. I can then free up my $450 HT for other frequencies. :-) Happy Thanksgiving to all, and thanks for the assist. de Bill, KD6MCI ________________________________________________________________________ Wm. A. Kirsanoff Internet: Rockwell International william_a._kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com (714) 762-2872 Ham: KD6MCI ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Who are you? * I am number 2. * Who is number 1? * You are number 6. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.cris.com!news From: rfowler@cris.com (Rich Fowler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARES and RACES Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 14:01:10 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <494j1k$4ga@spectator.cris.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: crc3-fddi.cris.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I have a none ham friend in St. Paul, MN that is interested in disaster preparedness. He is head of security at on of the local colleges. I think he may be a good candidate to become a ham and become involved with ARES. Anyway, anyone in the St. Paul area that could help. Please email Christopher Martinson and tell him how to get involved with FEMA. Thanks, Rich K8MEG From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: NEBJ09A@prodigy.com (Dave Ennes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL Countries List Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:49:27 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49678n$1pke@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> References: <60306.pcooper@fox.nstn.ns.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap4.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 What is the phone number for the AARL BB? Thanks N7DTD From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!mgate.arrl.org!not-for-mail From: mtracy@mgate.arrl.org (Mike Tracy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL Internet Address Date: 25 Nov 1995 10:22:56 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 8 Message-ID: <497ccg$2nj@mgate.arrl.org> References: <497bik$2ht@mgate.arrl.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mike Tracy (mtracy@mgate.arrl.org) wrote: : Marc, : There is a Telnet site that you may be able to use to find your : latitude and longitude. It is: Sorry folks - wrong subject line. Please ignore this post - thanks! 73 de Michael Tracy, KC1SX From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gryphon.phoenix.net!dial79.phoenix.net!user From: lewis@phoenix.phoenix.net (Lewis Stephens KC5PSX) Newsgroups: alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:40:47 -0500 Organization: Amber,Inc. Lines: 76 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: dial79.phoenix.net X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.1.1 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21685 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94661 rec.radio.swap:51553 Let me tell you a tale about a trip across Texas. I call Austin Amateur Radio Supply (AARS) earlier today. The conversation went something like this; ring ring (AARS) Hello, Austin Amateur Radio Supply may I help you? (Me) Sure , I am looking for latest Yaesu offering, the FT-1000MP. Do you have any and are they set up where I can see one. (AARS) Sure thing, come on down. (ME) Great! By the way, do you have the Kenwood 870DSP set up too? I want to compare the two radios. I am bringing my wife along so she can see first hand what I am buying myself for Christmas this year. (AARS) OK. I have here too. (Me) Ok, What time do you close today? (AARS) We be here until about 5 today. (Me) That's good. I'm in Pasadena and it'll take a bit to get there. (AARS) OK. (Me) Thanks and I'll see you this afternoon. (click) Ok, so far so good. I loaded my pockets with nice fresh one hundred dollars and a credit card that I had been hoarding. I got the wife and kids loaded and drove 222 miles from my place to Austin. When I got there and found Austin Amateur Radio, we all got out and trotted inside. That's when this story goes sour. Austin Amateur Radio does have the radios in stock. The Kenwood is on the front counter. (Not hooked up, but you can see it.) The Yaesu FT-1000MP is another story. It is in the back in the box and is for sale. It will not be placed on display at all. It is for sale. This according to the man at the counter. But says I, I have travel a ways to see this new machine. Sorry, says they. Only for the buyer will the box be opened. Now I understand that people want stuf in unopened boxes. If this was the only radio they had and didn't want to run the risk of offending another potential customer, they should have said so when I called. I told the guy I wanted to compare the radios and show it to my XYL before I paid nearly $3000 for the thing. I think this is a discourtesy that shouldn't happen amoung amateurs. I told the fellow behind the counter that I had traveled from out of town to see thew radio once more and when he just shook his head I made up my mind not to support the local dealer and I'll buy my equipment from a more honerable out of state dealer. I will take a day or two longer to recieve it. But I'll save the 8 1/4% sales tax. And I'll never darken the door of Austin Amateur Radio Supply again. I also tell anyone who asks that I really wouldn't trust someone that would bait a fellow from over two hundred miles away and then not show the goods when he gets there. Next week, we are considering flying to OK City to see my wife grandfather and they have a nice Ham shop that will probably ship my new radio home for me. I know me. If they would have shown us this radio today, I'd have a new Yaesu beside me now and would not have the time to write a flame at all. I was as disgusted when I left there today as I have been in a long time. It's not a big thing, I know but it really got to me. Thanks for letting me vent my anger and 73. Lewis Stephens ~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~ Lewis Stephens KC5PSX lewis@phoenix.phoenix.net Pasadena,Texas ~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~'`^`'~*--,._.,--*~ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interport.net!usenet From: Michael Neidich Newsgroups: alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy Date: 25 Nov 1995 13:08:11 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4974fr$mjo@park.interport.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: neidich.port.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21694 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94683 rec.radio.swap:51591 We (in the collective sense) have entered the era of the super-store, wherein you must already know what you want. We have brought it upon ourselves, for we gave up buying in the friendly store that actually demonstrated the product to the prospective buyer. The friendly neighborhood store is dead. We the consumers shop by mail, and make our selection based upon price--not advice, not service, and not support. The Internet expands this problem to the nth power. And it will get far worse. Remember when you could buy stationery at other than Staples? That which ye sow, so shall ye reap. Be of good cheer! Shop locally and let the guy make a living. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: "Charles Jack Hawley Jr." Newsgroups: alt.radio.amateur.club.clarc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Austin Amateur Radio Suppy Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 07:38:24 -0800 Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana Lines: 23 Message-ID: <30B73870.3032@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> References: <4974fr$mjo@park.interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: antwerp-12.slip.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2a (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21696 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94685 rec.radio.swap:51594 Michael Neidich wrote: > > We (in the collective sense) have entered the era of the super-store, > wherein you must already know what you want. We have brought it upon > ourselves, for we gave up buying in the friendly store that actually > demonstrated the product to the prospective buyer. The friendly > neighborhood store is dead. We the consumers shop by mail, and make our > selection based upon price--not advice, not service, and not support. > The Internet expands this problem to the nth power. And it will get far > worse. Remember when you could buy stationery at other than Staples? > That which ye sow, so shall ye reap. Be of good cheer! Shop locally and > let the guy make a living. I think you missed the point. The guy lied to him. -- Charles Jack Hawley Jr. Amateur Radio KE9UW (A.K.A. 'Chuck' in Ham Radio) BMW K100RS, BMWMOA #224 (A.K.A. 'Jack' in Motorcycles) hawley@aries.scs.uiuc.edu Sr. Research Engineer Emeritus Univ of Ill, Urbana-Champaign From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bomb threat Date: 25 Nov 1995 22:57:01 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4986vt$e6e@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> <48ogdi$2u0@ramp2.lisp.com> <48omoi$t3h@alterdial.UU.NET> <48rspq$mtl@wing.redshift.com> <48sca0$jsm@alterdial.UU.NET> <4974ru$r9f@news.flinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: hrsil@flinet.com hrsil@flinet.com (hrsil) wrote: >Henry Silvia hrsil@flinet.com >{KE4WBW} WPB. FLA >Not your average Ham.....WaveSailer(Windsurf) Nationally ranked IPSIC pistol >shooter(45) Weightlifter Motorcycle Roadracer(gpz750..vfr500) and whatever >radical endeavers that may catch my fancy!!!!!!! I should say you are indeed not an average ham. With such exciting activities why are you ever involved in this dead mans hobby?? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.flinet.com!usenet From: hrsil@flinet.com (hrsil) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bomb threat Date: 25 Nov 1995 13:14:38 GMT Organization: Florida Internet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4974ru$r9f@news.flinet.com> References: <8051140227801@ccsnet.com> <48ogdi$2u0@ramp2.lisp.com> <48omoi$t3h@alterdial.UU.NET> <48rspq$mtl@wing.redshift.com> <48sca0$jsm@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: wpb45.flinet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 Well folks it looks like your doing it again. Once again Burt makes a posting and those of you who do not have a life feel compulsed to respond. Taking someones post no matter whose it is and dissecting it for a malicious response is CB mentality! If you have something intelligent to say on the matter at hand respond to it not the person doing the posting! You Can Always Change The Channel! Of Course I dont agree with everything Burt says but some of his points are valid (in my opinion) and hopefully this will be the last time that I break down and comment on this matter, after all were all adults arent we? Thanks for reading this Posting, if you take offense send me some tube technical articles instead of a flame it will do more good for the Hobby! -- Henry Silvia hrsil@flinet.com {KE4WBW} WPB. FLA Not your average Ham.....WaveSailer(Windsurf) Nationally ranked IPSIC pistol shooter(45) Weightlifter Motorcycle Roadracer(gpz750..vfr500) and whatever radical endeavers that may catch my fancy!!!!!!! From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!totrbbs!phil.heaton From: phil.heaton@totrbbs.radio.org (Phil Heaton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: By Win 95 Message-ID: <38064.11.uupcb@totrbbs.radio.org> Date: 25 Nov 95 21:24:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Top Of The Rock BBS Atl, GA 404-921-8687 Reply-To: phil.heaton@totrbbs.radio.org (Phil Heaton) References: <4986ik$e6e@alterdial.UU.NET> Lines: 25 BF> Are you still bad mouthing Win 95? I can't bad-mouth it, but since info week mag has devoted (it seems) a column per each issue on it's bugs, I'd rather stay away from it. BF> I love it, worth every penny. Welp, I'm glad you're glad. By the way, I've got a hacked OS I'd like you to beta test for me, so how much will you pay me? Y'know like you did Billy Boy. Phil, KE4KRT Micro$oft - What Bill's wife knows about Bill... ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 ---- Top Of The Rock BBS - Lilburn, GA Phone: +1 770 921-8687 Snailmail: 4181 Wash Lee Ct. Lilburn, GA 30247-7440 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: ve2sux@ki5pi.nmsu.EDU (Marc Purdon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Cable TV frequencies Date: 23 Nov 95 18:45:01 GMT Organization: Ham Radio Lines: 3 Sender: Message-ID: <199511231845.KAA23231@mail.ucsd.edu> Reply-To: ve2sux@ki5pi.nmsu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Hello, I am looking for the frequencies of cable TV in the 70cm band. I know that some ATV frequencies correspond to cable TV channels. Thank you. 73's de Marc. VE2SUX. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!olivea!bug.rahul.net!a2i!rahul.net!a2i!news.clark.net!not-for-mail From: andy@clark.net (andy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 22 Nov 1995 10:29:11 GMT Organization: clark.net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <48uu1n$a12@clarknet.clark.net> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950726BETA PL0] Abraham Stavsky (ag001@lafn.org) wrote: : : I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days : in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the : need for a supplemental license? Thanks, : Abe, KE6OCM : -- Yes you can. -k4adl From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:41 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!nott!cunews!freenet.carleton.ca!FreeNet.Carleton.CA!ab376 From: ab376@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Ligeza) Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Message-ID: Sender: ab376@freenet2.carleton.ca (Mike Ligeza) Reply-To: ab376@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mike Ligeza) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48uu1n$a12@clarknet.clark.net> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:05:03 GMT Lines: 31 andy (andy@clark.net) writes: > Abraham Stavsky (ag001@lafn.org) wrote: > : > : I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days > : in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the > : need for a supplemental license? Thanks, > : Abe, KE6OCM > : -- > > Yes you can. > > -k4adl However, not sure what U.S. Customs policy is, butif it is similar to Canadian, it may be a good idea to register your Radio gear with U.S. Customs, as you leave the U.S., so that upon your return, they don't think you are trying to smuggle it back into the U.S. When ever I go to the U.S., I drop into the Canadian Customs office, and register my gear, (a small blue card carrying model number and serial number). Have a nice visit. Mike -- ############################################################################## Mike Ligeza Snr.- VE3UIL Ottawa, Ontario Canada From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!news.uoregon.edu!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:19:50 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4988am$k80$2@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: <497suj$mne@news1.sunbelt.net> You can use your radio in any country on the planet if you don't get caught. Only the boy scouts bother with all of that silly paperwork. Just do it man. -mike wa4d -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.sunbelt.net!usenet From: flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 20:07:00 GMT Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access Lines: 19 Message-ID: <497suj$mne@news1.sunbelt.net> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vqm1$q86@govonca3.gov.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: async3.groupz.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Dave Crosby VE3VSM wrote: >ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) wrote: >>I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days >>in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the >>need for a supplemental license? >Yes you can. Canada and the USA have a standing reciprocal operating agreement. >Bring a copy of your FCC license and everything should be OK. Does one notify the Canadian radio authorities? Does one get a temp V? call? Does one use his/her USA call? How does this all work? We plan to tour western Canada and Alaska next summer with 2m FM in car. I hadn't planned to use it in Canada, but maybe I can do so without any hassle?? W4UKU Jerry F. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: cobra295@aol.com (Cobra295) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ClearChannel Corp./RF Ltd. AC-7000 U/D? Date: 24 Nov 1995 22:13:53 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 8 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <4961lh$iak@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: cobra295@aol.com (Cobra295) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com I hear this is a good desk mic for HF rigs, etc... I also notice that it's made by RF Limited... known for creating some CB stuff... I'm wondering if anyone has any experiences with this mic or similar models and how it would compare to something like a kenwood MC85 desk mic. Thanks for any EMAIL REPLIES. Appreciate it... Sean, N2ZJJ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.fyionline.com!op.net!en.com!not-for-mail From: snipe19@en.com ("Buddha") Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Code Software? Date: 22 Nov 1995 14:49:28 -0500 Organization: Exchange Network Services, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <48vus8$nhf@en.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: en.com Can somebody tell me a ftp site that has morse code practice programs?? 73's, KC8AGT From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: pbobby@ix.netcom.com (Paul Bobby ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code Software? Date: 24 Nov 1995 19:50:14 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4957lm$kje@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <48vus8$nhf@en.com> <494r51$7s5@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bin-ny2-24.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Nov 24 11:50:14 AM PST 1995 >There are several good Morse Code programs, but Super Morse is (in my >humble opinion) about the best. You can get the latest Windows version >at: > Yes I have used super morse to get my 5wpm upgrade, and am working at 8wpm at the moment, it's a great trainer. What I do'nt like about it, is it's manual keying function. It doesn't match my sending very well at all. Besides, when you manually send, all it does is put your code on the screen. Do you know of any software that lets you interact? I've seen some guys hardware keyer, that simulate qso's and lets you talk back to it. It recognizes your code somehow, but I'd like to see a software version....any ideas? -- Paul Bobby - pbobby@ix.netcom.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!castle.nando.net!news From: Dave Hockaday Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Condition of HF??? Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:40:29 GMT Organization: News & Observer Public Access Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4966nt$96o@castle.nando.net> References: <8056221475402@inferno.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: grail1605.nando.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: vector@inferno.com >KD>>And just think...these guys ALL passed 13WPM Morse tests! >KD>> >KD>>Some lid filter, sin't it? >KD>You're assuming that they all used their real callsigns, aren't you? >KD>-- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" >doesn't matter if they used their real callsigns or not. i wouldn't >bother going out to purchase a $1500 HF rig just to hoot and holler on >80M. i don't have the required license class and it would be a waste of >money to me. >greg >kd6ven 80 meters is a CW band. I work HF a lot, and seldom hear any of this stuff I see posted about on the net. I would guess that either someone is looking to point fingers or they really haven't spent much time looking/listening/operating there. I hear conversations in my area on VHF/UHF from those who couldn't build a 1/4 wave ground plane if their lives depended on it, often from those who talk about the poor condition of HF when they don't even own a HF rig to listen in with... From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!tribune.usask.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.mbnet.mb.ca!carson From: Colin Carson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: cost of I.R.C's Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 08:08:01 -0600 Organization: The University of Manitoba Lines: 4 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: access.mbnet.mb.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What's the cost of International Reply Coupons in the U.S.? Here in Canada they've jumped to $3.30..Colin VE4CSN carson@mbnet.mb.ca From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!sunqbc.risq.net!news.riq.qc.ca!news From: mcaron@riq.qc.ca Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Cq Contest.. 50th anniversary.. Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 13:57:48 PDT Organization: Reseau Internet Quebec Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: riq-128-58.riq.qc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage Somebody told me about a contest from CQ magazine on the VHF band that would be called CQ50. The contest would be to make 50 contacts on a repeater... If anybody heard about this I would appreciate more info and the rules and regs and how to participate. Thanks Maxime Caron VA2MRX From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!fullfeed!tricia!newsmaster From: Bob Morrow Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 22 Nov 1995 00:30:09 GMT Organization: FullFeed Madison (newsmaster@msn.fullfeed.com) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <48tquh$mp3@tricia.msn.fullfeed.com> References: <48qdbj$ahi@fcnews.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.msn.fullfeed.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; U; 32bit) MARS no longer does code, and neither does the US Coast Guard. (personal comments deleted.) -- Bob Morrow N7PTM USAF Tops In Blue http://www.msn.fullfeed.com/bobm/tib.htm From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!realtime.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!jethro.Corp.Sun.COM!mandalay!aga From: aga@mandalay.corp.sun.com (Tony Angerame - Sun SE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 21 Nov 1995 23:50:08 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48tojg$s77@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> References: <48qdbj$ahi@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Reply-To: aga@mandalay.corp.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mandalay.corp.sun.com I attended Basic Morse Training at Keesler AFB Miss in the mid sixties. There was a civilian instructor, Mr. Macy who also had a bad leg. He used a cane and would beat the cane on his desk to the rythym of "frf juj" ( the basic typing exercise). Anyone at Keesler during that time who remembers Mr. Macy?? Tony WA6LZH From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:11:31 -0500 Organization: Mot RNSG - Private Data Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article , scottwh@netcom.com (Walter Scott) wrote: > The U.S. Army, Navy, etc. have code schools for teaching Morse code. > > Is anyone familiar with these training programs? > How long do they take for X words/min proficiency? > What methods do they use for code instruction? > How many hours a day, etc.? > > There might be some information here that would help us learn code. > > Obviously, no classified information. > > Thanks, > > -Scott With DoD completely abandoning Morse Code and, further, banning its use on military comm circuits October 1, 1996, I doubt that any classes have existed for the last few years. That's not to say that there aren't a few OT RMCSs in the Navy who do still use Morse, albeit without official approval. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola RNSG Pvt Data < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:52 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!netcom22!faunt From: faunt@netcom22.netcom.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604) Subject: Re: CW Military Training In-Reply-To: CSLE87@email.mot.com's message of Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:11:31 -0500 Message-ID: Sender: faunt@netcom22.netcom.com Organization: at home, in Oakland References: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:52:12 GMT Lines: 21 Some of you are missing the point of the question. Given that the armed forces were training CW operators for large numbers of years (even if not currently doing so), perhaps the techniques they used are of use to those of us who want to learn code. Good question. My experience was that they selected only those with an aptitude. When taking aptitude tests in Navy boot camp, in 1965, among other things they tried us out on a quicky code learning session. It went something like this, as I recall: headphones on, here's an E, here's a T, here's an A, here's an N; repeat this for 5 minutes; now copy this; some of these characters sent; what did you get? I have no idea how fast it was. Obviously, if you knew the code already, or had a high aptitude for learning it, you'd do well. As I recall, I did poorly, as I did on the sonar aptitude test, which was "which pitch is higher, this or this" repeated a few times. I had been guaranteed an electronics school, since I aced the preliminary test at the recruiting office, twice (they thought I might have cheated the first time), but RM was considered an electronics rate. I ended up an AT (aviation electronics technician). 73, doug From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.primenet.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!primenet.primenet.com!markem From: markem@primenet.com (Mark Monninger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 21:50:05 MST Organization: Primenet Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ip16-077.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] In article faunt@netcom22.netcom.com (Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604) writes: ... >I had been guaranteed an electronics school, since I aced the >preliminary test at the recruiting office, twice (they thought I might >have cheated the first time),... I remember those tests. I took one for the Air Force in 1966 or 67...the AFQT, I think. They had some real interesting questions on the one I took...like showing a drawing of a screwdriver and asking which end is the handle (honest!). And which tool would you NOT use to change a tire: A. Jack, B. tire iron, C. Cutting torch. I aced mine too (some of the guys sweating it out never did finish it). I think I selected jet engine maintenance but then I failed the physical and was classified 4F. Oh well... From what I hear, they selected people with an aptitude, like Doug said. Then they put you in a class and gave you an incentive...learn the code or end up carrying an M16 and slogging through the mud with people shooting at you. It was pretty much hammered into you. Mark AA7TA From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: NEBJ09A@prodigy.com (Dave Ennes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:52:18 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4967e2$172s@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap4.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Is CW something that is still used in the service. I know the Coast Guard had there last CW transmission this year. N7DTD From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.neca.com!usenet From: jmusto@neca.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dont reply to ANY Burt Fisher messages Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 23:49:54 GMT Organization: NECAnet Lines: 18 Message-ID: <30b659a3.2597348@news.neca.com> References: <494t9l$mg3@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-ts0-117.neca.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 time@tir.com (Tim E.) wrote: >Fair warning. He likes to spam all the radio newsgroups. If you >respond to any of his messages your reply also spams the same groups. >I got some nasty mail that I was spamming all the radio groups and >found out it was a response to one of his meaningless messages that >went out. I immediately notified my provider that the blame goes back >on the original poster. So be careful... Hi Tim, When you reply to a message, just look at the To: or Newsgroup: field in your newsreader. It will list the groups you are responding to. This will save you a lot of nasty e-mail. Take Care, Joe From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.ultranet.com!usenet From: sr@ultranet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Dry Tortugas IOTA activety?? Date: 25 Nov 1995 03:13:35 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4961kv$rto@caesar.ultra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: afco.ultranet.com X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) Has anyone heard of any IOTA activety on Dry Tortuga?? I am considering making a trip to the island this winter for a DXpedition. I could use any information about previous activety to help me in my decision and preparation. Please respond directly to sr@ultranet.com instead of this newsgroup. Tnx Steve AA1IZ (previous trip to Grenada J37VG) From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!wizard.pn.com!news.zeitgeist.net!news.pixi.com!akamai.pixi.com!not-for-mail From: crscasio@pixi.com (Lawrence Koga) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Dumb CW question? Date: 23 Nov 1995 06:42:34 GMT Organization: Pacific Information Exchange, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <49154q$rp8@rigel.pixi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: akamai.pixi.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950621BETA PL0] Someone told me that the Navy used some CW notations for off the record comments. I want to learn a few of them. For example, how do I send in CW - Put on a competent operator. I seem the remember that these codes started in the letter "Z", much like the "Q" codes. Thanks, Lawrence NH6NJ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.primenet.com!nntpdist.primenet.com!usenet From: kg7qj@primenet.com (Robert B. Burleson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dumb CW question? Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:45:30 GMT Organization: Primenet Lines: 18 Message-ID: <494spb$9ba@nnrp3.news.primenet.com> References: <49154q$rp8@rigel.pixi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip218.phx.primenet.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 crscasio@pixi.com (Lawrence Koga) wrote: >Someone told me that the Navy used some CW notations for off the record >comments. I want to learn a few of them. For example, how do I send in >CW - Put on a competent operator. I seem the remember that >these codes started in the letter "Z", much like the "Q" codes. >Thanks, Lawrence NH6NJ The "Z" codes are used for military communications only, usually CW and RTTY. The signal you are looking for is ZBM 2: "Place a competent operater on watch on this frequency". More can be found in the NAVMARCORPS MARS NTP 8(B) Communications Instructions. 73 de KG7QJ Bob B. NNN0PHE/AZ Navy MARS From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!clark.edu!not-for-mail From: cboling@clark.edu (Charles L Boling) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equip,rec.radio.cb,pdx.forsale,or.forsale Subject: Estate Sale Date: 23 Nov 1995 12:18:25 -0800 Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, WA. Lines: 39 Message-ID: <492kuh$grc@clark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu Summary: Lots of radio equipment Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94670 rec.radio.cb:24622 pdx.forsale:28824 or.forsale:18607 I'm posting this for a friend, so please respond to the number at the bottom of the message -- not my email address. E S T A T E S A L E --------------------- RCI 2950 WITH 11 METERS---------------------250.00 RCI 2970 WITH 11 METERS---------------------350.00 YEASU FL2100B LINEAR AMP--------------------450.00 PYRAMID PS35G POWER SUPPLY------------------115.00 LASER 400 12-ELEMENT BEAM------------------190.00 (USED, PARTIALLY ASSEMBLED; NOT INSTALLED) US TOWER MA-550/MARB/MAF-------------------2000.00 (TOWER IS INSTALLED; BUYER TO REMOVE) YEASU G-800-SDX ROTATOR---------------------438.00 PDC 600LP METER------------------------------85.00 GOLDLINE 1000-WATT METER---------------------30.00 DRAKE TU 3300LP FILTER-----------------------25.00 OAK BAY LP-11P 1000-WATT FILTER--------------25.00 DAIWA 2-POS. COAX SWITCH---------------------20.00 SHURE 444D MIC-------------------------------50.00 CABLE EXPERTS RG213 APPROX 500' ROLL COAX 125.00 (500' SPOOL, *MAY* BE MISSING SOME) COMMANDER 150A 10-11m LINEAR, MOBILE---------75.00 CB Power supply, 2.5 AMP---------------------15.00 SPEAKERS - 1 REALISTIC------------------------5.00 - 1 LARGE OUTDOOR SPEAKER HORN------15.00 ASSORTED MAG MOUNT MOBILE CB ANTENNAS------------? BIDS CONSIDERED ON ONE ITEM OR ALL ITEMS AS ONE LOT REPLY TO: JIM GROW +1 541/479-1408 Grants Pass, OR From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:53:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC has gone home Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:21:42 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4988e6$k80$3@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: <48l9ut$6g@dsm6.dsmnet.com> Who gives a shit if the FCC is closed. There are many policy makers that believe the Commission should be eliminated. The majority of tickets being issued are to new licensee's below General Class. In other words, they ain't even hams. -mike wa4d -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:24:15 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4988iv$k80$4@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: Matt I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need anymore pseudo-hams. -mike wa4d -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!pacbell.com!amdahl.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: FCC shutdown Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 17:45:49 PST Message-ID: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 26 73>Matt 73>I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a 73>ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the 73>No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. 73>Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need 73>anymore pseudo-hams. 73>-mike wa4d still at it, eh mike? still pissed off? keep going buddy. maybe you'll self-destruct. i see you still haven't responded to me directly after i cut you down. how much of a man are you mike? are you just like my ex-roommate i kicked out a few months ago, who talked big but was too manly to pay me the rent he owed me or to stay faithful to his girlfriend? yeah, not that all mike's are like you, but you're the second one that i know of that talks big and doesn't back up his words. i know there are people out there named mike that are worthy of the name, unlike you. greg kd6ven From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!server.iadfw.net!usenet From: comptnce@airmail.net (James Long) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: For Sale: HAL RTTY equipment Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:16:28 GMT Organization: Internet America Lines: 6 Message-ID: <30b3a0fb.12944726@news.airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal12-30.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21626 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94587 For sale: HAL DS3100ASR & ST6000; *mint* condition; complete wiring harness; all manuals; original shipping boxes; best offer. Jim Long, K5QPT comptnce@airmail.net From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!server.iadfw.net!usenet From: comptnce@airmail.net (James Long) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: For sale: HAL RTTY gear Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:12:17 GMT Organization: Internet America Lines: 3 Message-ID: <30b39f2a.12479753@news.airmail.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dal12-30.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99c/16.141 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21625 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94586 For sale: HAL DS3100ASR & ST6000; *mint* condition; complete wiring harness; all manuals; original shipping boxes; best offer. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:04 1995 From: Bootlegger@msn.com (Robert Young) Subject: FS:HF/VHF/UHF Date: 22 Nov 95 07:40:09 -0800 Message-ID: <00001fef+00002ebf@msn.com> Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.msn.com!msn.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Organization: The Microsoft Network (msn.com) Lines: 11 For Sale: Kenwood TS-690S HF/6 Meter rig. $1200.00 Icom IC-2700H 2Meter/70cm mobile $575.00 (never mobile) Yaesu FT-2500H 2 Meter mobile $275.00 Heathkit SB-1000 HF Amp single Eimac 3-500Z tube $650.00 Local Pickup only on the HF amp.....Metro St. Louis Call Bob N9MSS (618)939-7581 or Bootlegger@msn.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!lehi.kuentos.guam.net!saba.kuentos.guam.net!norman From: norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Fusing Power Leads Date: 25 Nov 1995 17:43:58 GMT Organization: Kuentos Communications Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <497kku$18m@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: saba.kuentos.guam.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Thank you to all who responded to my question regarding fusing mobile equipment. I appreciate the time and effort. Regards Norm Collins From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:06 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!noc.tor.hookup.net!ve3ied!whome!gts!feline!gray From: gray@Acad.Humberc.On.Ca (Kelly Gray) Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Message-ID: Organization: Humber College Academic Computing Dept. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <48qhrh$o3f@ionews.ionet.net> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:26:52 GMT Lines: 36 jim forest (jforest@ionet.net) wrote: : snip : > : >It is to prevent a problem if the cable from the negative of the battery : >to the vehicle body opens. If that happens, all current, including the : >heavy starter current would flow thru the radio and it's cables, causing : >damage and a possible fire. The circuit would be: : > : >Bat + --- starter --- car body --- radio chassis via mounting screws or : >antenna coax braid --- negative wire --- fuse --- Bat - : > : snip : if the negative cable opens hows the starter motor going to pull current : with out a completed current loop? : my 2 peso worth : jim The circuit is as follows: from the battery positive to the starter motor (via the starter relay) from the motor to the car body via the "grounded" body of the motor (The normal path at this point is back to the battery via the defective battery negative) from the car body to the radio negative via the antenna coax braid from the radio negative to the battery negative via the wire run directly from the battery to the radio. Note that since the antenna braid connection and the power lead negative normally don't connect to the same point on the circuit board, they are usually connected via a circuit board trace, and circuit board traces tend to vaporise when asked to carry that level of current. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!news.halcyon.com!usenet From: "Alan F. Olson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Good Price for Yaesu FT-ONE? Date: 23 Nov 1995 03:21:42 GMT Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <490pc6$hi5@news.halcyon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blv-pm10-ip26.halcyon.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) I recently purchased a Yaesu FT-ONE for $900 as my first transceiver. It came with extra memory, SSB filters, and a Yaesu MH-1 microphone, but no CW filters. Is this a reasonable price? Thanks for the help to a newbie. -- *************************************************************************** * * * aolson@halcyon.com * * "Ain't No Nookie Like Chinookie" Ray Troll * * * *************************************************************************** From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!panix!not-for-mail From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Good Windows Log? Date: 25 Nov 1995 09:10:45 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 15 Message-ID: <497855$r83@panix.com> References: <30B5DC16.2DE7@nexus.interealm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com In <30B5DC16.2DE7@nexus.interealm.com> "George J. Molnar" writes: >Anyone know of a good logging program for windows? I'd like one that (at >least) interfaces with a SAM callbook. I've seen many pretty decent DOS >based loggers out there, but I'd like to go "all windows", if possible. There are a few Windows-based log programs listed on the Amateur Radio Reference (http://www.panix.com/clay/ham.html) in the "Stores and Supplier" section. -- - o - o Clay Irving (clay@panix.com), N2VKG o - o o AEC NYC ARES, New York County o - Deputy Radio Operator, NYC RACES, New York County - o - - Start --> http://www.panix.com/clay From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: QXBJ74A@prodigy.com (Marc Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: GRID SQUARE HELP! Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:31:05 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 10 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48vtpp$1ceq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap3.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 Is anyone aware of a site that you can either telnet to or access via the WWW to obtain your grid square? I know that at one time, a few years ago, there was a telnet site that would give rather close longitude/lattitude readings by entering your zip-code. Thanks Marc Taylor KC7JKF From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!news From: jdear@mail.bayou.com (Jim Dear) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: GRID SQUARE HELP! Date: 25 Nov 1995 14:30:15 GMT Organization: The DataXchange Network, Inc Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49799n$jhl@news.dx.net> References: <48vtpp$1ceq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s102.bayou.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.4 go to www.arrl.org and look in their ftp site...I think they have software available to do this and more KG5VE jdear@mail.bayou.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!mgate.arrl.org!not-for-mail From: mtracy@mgate.arrl.org (Mike Tracy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: GRID SQUARE HELP! Date: 25 Nov 1995 10:21:41 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <497ca5$2nb@mgate.arrl.org> References: <48vtpp$1ceq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Marc Taylor (QXBJ74A@prodigy.com) wrote: : Is anyone aware of a site that you can either telnet to or access via the : WWW to obtain your grid square? I know that at one time, a few years ago, : there was a telnet site that would give rather close longitude/lattitude : readings by entering your zip-code. Marc, There is a Telnet site that you may be able to use to find your latitude and longitude. It is: telnet martini.eecs.umich.edu 3000 and it features statistics (population, latitude, longitude, etc.) for many good sized cities. However, it is NOT comprehensive. You may also be able to find out the lat./long. from your post office - most of them have this information on file. If not, check your nearest outdoor goods store (camping and hiking) for a topographical map of your area. Once you have this information, you can use a number of programs to convert to the grid square (see ftp.barc.org, in the directory /pub3/hamradio/arrl/bbs/programs, files named grid*.*). Keep in mind that the "sub-grids" (the two letter suffix) are only accurate if you have the precise lat./long. for your QTH. However, these subgrids are only used for a few specialized contests - most folks only need the standard 4 digit grid square. Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------- American Radio Relay League, Inc. Tel: 1-860-594-0200 225 Main Street Fax: 1-860-594-0259 Newington, CT 06111 Email: mtracy@arrl.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:12 1995 From: k0hb@hamlink.mn.org (Hans Brakob) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!rosevax!hamlink!fredmail Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Growth Pattern Message-ID: <817319124.AA04371@hamlink.mn.org> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 15:33:45 -0100 X-FTN-To: All Lines: 40 The decade of 1986 through 1995 saw growth in our ranks to the tune of 66.6%. The pattern, which most of us probably would think was almost solely due to the new Technician license, is actually more diverse than I expected. Certainly the Technician class has been a major and welcome contributor to our growth. A decade ago there were no codeless Technicians, and today they comprise 20.6 percent of the total licensees. In each class the growth patterns are as follows: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Class 1986 1995 Gain/Loss Extra 40,455 71,900 (+31,447) Adv. 98,294 117,398 (+19,104) General 116,944 130,021 (+13,077) Tech+ 86,025 139,529 (+53,054) Tech 0 145,193 (New Class) Novice 79,359 97,468 (+18,109) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - There was no class which lost numbers, and the heaviest relative growth was in the Extra (77.7%) and Tech+ (61.6%) classes. The General class was the slowest growth class, both in numbers and percentage. No, I'm not a statistician, so I don't know what all this really means. The growth in Novice, coupled with the popularity of Tech and Tech+, clearly means a lot of newcomers to our ranks. Beyond there, I suspect the slowness of General growth reflects a tendency "not to stop, but to upgrade" because very few newcomers go directly to Advanced or Extra, and thus drain down the numbers in lower classes. This suggests General may be just a "stepping stone" and does not retain its input well. The over 50,000 new Extra/Advanced licensees probably moved "through" the General class over the decade. Most interesting to me, however, was the healthy growth of the Novice class. There are more new Novices than new Generals! -- 73, de Hans, K0HB -- From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: k1oik@ccsnet.COM (Burt Fisher) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Gutless assholes Date: 25 Nov 95 11:34:00 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 9 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Someone is playing me again!!!!! #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com fisher@meol.mass.edu | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Gutless assholes Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:00:28 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 12 Message-ID: <49876c$jte$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: Good ol' Burt said: >Everyone who hates my postings can get the f*** off >the internet. They're going to close down the internet? -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!druid.borland.com!ico.net!lowell.bellcore.com!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.exodus.net!news1.i1.net!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Heath HW-101 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 02:51:48 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 15 Message-ID: <493bqb$6fa@news1.inlink.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip113.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 djarrett@gc.net (Dave Jarrett) wrote: >********************************************** >*Dave Jarrett KF4APJ FM17 Hampton, VA* >*GL0BAL TELECOM BBS 804-723-5728* >*E-Mail djarrett@gc.net FidoNet 1:271/305* I have an HW-101 that I built in the early '70s, still use it everyday and it still works great. Sure wish Heathkit stayed in the Amateur Kit business and left the computer industry alone. Gary From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!ki7mh From: ki7mh@delphi.com (L. Brichardi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Hello. Date: 22 Nov 1995 06:11:52 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 1 Message-ID: <9511220023591.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1f.delphi.com X-To: L. Brichardi Anybody do qrp pactor besides me? From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:16 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Hello. Message-ID: <1995Nov22.102456.22603@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <9511220023591.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 10:24:56 GMT Lines: 20 In article <9511220023591.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> ki7mh@delphi.com (L. Brichardi) writes: >Anybody do qrp pactor besides me? Well I didn't *intend* to, but due to a bad antenna and severe VSWR foldback in the rig, that's what I seem to be doing. Still works. Digital board: HAL P-38 Radio: IC-706 Antenna: G5RV much patched from damage caused by Opal at 15 feet with twinlead lying on the ground. Tuner: What tuner? Est ERP: << 5 watts Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!FirePower.com!airwaves!rrb From: Ian Butt Newsgroups: alt.business.telecommunication.services,alt.radio.digital,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.antenna.misc,rec.radio.broadcasting,rec.radio.info,rec.radio.shortwave,uw.radio.amateur Subject: Help - Low speed Radio Communication Followup-To: rec.radio.broadcasting Date: 23 Nov 1995 07:43:45 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Lines: 22 Approved: rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us Distribution: world Message-ID: <4918nh$2fv@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: clm.aiss.uiuc.edu Originator: rrb@clm.aiss.uiuc.edu Xref: news.epix.net alt.business.telecommunication.services:64 alt.radio.digital:1322 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17274 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94610 rec.radio.broadcasting:18532 rec.radio.info:10431 rec.radio.shortwave:66363 Hi, I have to do a paper on low speed radio communication. Low speed, I mean up to and including Amplitude modulation(AM) and shortwave radio. I don't really want to know much about the physics of radio communication. I am suppose to write about error correction, error detection, and physical faults with this communication. It is for a fourth year information, coding theory course. I have looked through our library and there isn't much I can find on it. Any help or information would be much appreciated.... Thanks very much... Sincerely, Ian Butt 4th Year Computer Science University Of Western Ontario butt@gaul.csd.uwo.ca Canada Voice: 519-850-7949 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!torn!newshost.uwo.ca!obelix!butt From: Ian Butt Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help - Low Speed Radio Communication Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 15:18:10 -0500 Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: butt@obelix I have to do a paper on low speed radio communication. Low speed, I mean up to and including Amplitude modulation(AM) and shortwave radio. I don't really want to know much about the physics of radio communication. I am suppose to write about error correction, error detection, and physical faults with this communication. It is for a fourth year information, coding theory course. Thanks.... Sincerely, Ian Butt 4th Year Computer Science University Of Western Ontario butt@gaul.csd.uwo.ca Canada Voice: 519-850-7949 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news3.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail From: kodis@access1.digex.net (John Kodis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help - Low Speed Radio Communication Date: 24 Nov 1995 18:19:31 -0500 Organization: Organization? Surely you jest! Lines: 28 Message-ID: <495ju3$50a@access1.digex.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: access1.digex.net In article , Ian Butt wrote: > I have to do a paper on low speed radio communication. Low speed, I > mean up to and including Amplitude modulation(AM) and shortwave radio. I > don't really want to know much about the physics of radio communication. > I am suppose to write about error correction, error detection, and > physical faults with this communication. It is for a fourth year > information, coding theory course. You seem to have mistaken this newsgroup for a reference library. It isn't. You seem to have mistaken the readership for research assistants. We aren't. You might consider taking the old fashion approach to this assignment, and try doing the work yourself. Although this requires expending effort, reading, doing math, writing, and other such unpleasantness, it has the advantage that you might actually come to an understanding of the subject matter. > Thanks.... You're quite welcome. -- John Kodis. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!rhiii From: rhiii@delphi.com (Richard Harrison) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help - Low Speed Radio Communication Date: 25 Nov 1995 10:55:24 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 23 Message-ID: <9511250500591.The_Win-D.rhiii@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com X-To: Richard Harrison Ian: You've come to the right place to get some pointers but not direct answers. Begin with the easy stuff...go to your library and get the ARRL (Amateur Radio Relay League) handbook and read the section on radio propagation. That will lead you right into the heart of the problem of moving information by radio -- NOISE. Get the references cited and you'll find all of you answers. I see only one potential problem... > I don't really want to know much about the physics of radio communication. > I am suppose to write about error correction, error detection, and > physical faults with this communication. You absolutely cannot know the answers unless you are willing to learn some of the physics of radio signal propagation. What you will find in radio communications is that most coding is done for the purpose of mitigating errors induced by noise and not so much to achieve higher data throughput. Good luck, Richard H. / NT2Z From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Help - Low Speed Radio Communication Message-ID: <1995Nov25.150233.9122@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <9511250500591.The_Win-D.rhiii@delphi.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 15:02:33 GMT Lines: 25 In article <9511250500591.The_Win-D.rhiii@delphi.com> rhiii@delphi.com (Richard Harrison) writes: >I see only one potential problem... > >> I don't really want to know much about the physics of radio communication. >> I am suppose to write about error correction, error detection, and >> physical faults with this communication. > >You absolutely cannot know the answers unless you are willing to learn some of >the physics of radio signal propagation. What you will find in radio >communications is that most coding is done for the purpose of mitigating >errors induced by noise and not so much to achieve higher data throughput. At HF, noise isn't the half of it. Sure, there's a high thermal noise level, but that's not too serious since signal levels are also high. More serious, there's natural impulsive noise, selective fading, which is a killer problem for data, and various manmade sources of interference. And worse, the channel characteristics change rapidly, and any successful protocol must adapt just as rapidly. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!cobra.uni.edu!parickj4560 From: parickj4560@cobra.uni.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help w/ FCC.GOV Message-ID: <1995Nov21.201921.50756@cobra.uni.edu> Date: 21 Nov 95 20:19:21 -0600 Organization: University of Northern Iowa Lines: 2 Where in FCC.GOV can you find the new licenses? I have been looking for a friend. Thanks N0ZYA From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bga.com!usenet From: kk5dr@bga.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HF TOO CROWDED? Date: 24 Nov 1995 14:54:11 GMT Organization: Real/Time Communications - Bob Gustwick and Associates Lines: 28 Message-ID: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: maria-4m.ip.realtime.net X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) I have a few statements & questions to make; First off I am only talking about the HF AMATUER SPECTRUM now. Here's how it breaks down; (1) The total HF radio specrtum usable for AMATUER operators is; 3.750 mhz (2) Accordding to the ARRL band plan(gentlemens agreement) SSB is; 1.973 mhz (3) CW is; 1.198 mhz (4) Using these figures, there is theoredical maximum usage level for HF, being; 1,856 qso's (5) SSB 1,973khz divided by 3khz = 658 qso's (6) CW 1,198khz divided by 1khz = 1,198 qso's (7) Hence 658 + 1,198 = 1,856 total qso's I know this does not take into account for propagation, but that's beside the point, there are 750,000 hams in the U.S.A., and if only 10% = 7,500 were to get on HF, the bands would be over flowing. If only 1% of them were on SSB, it would be too many. I here all the talk about needing more hams, WE NEED MORE HAMS, or ham radio will die! You must look closely at who is saying this, and why. If it's so important that we have "so many" new hams, then set a goal, the "majic" number, that if we reach it, hams radio will be in no danger of dieing. My question is; What is that "MAJIC" number, how many is enough, what is a "healthy" growth rate? Anyone who listens to HF on a weekend, knows what I'm talking about, GOD help you if there is a contest running(and when isn't there one) on a weekend that you want to get on the air. The first thing any of you are going to tell me is; Go on vhf/uhf etc. That is not what I became a ham for, my goal was HF, where DX is "reliable" on a given band. That is also the goal of most of the hams out there, if not, why bother with having different classes of licenses, there needs to be a "clear" set goal, for advancement, & added privleages rewarded for it, otherwise, what's the use in all of this?! The FCC says that all the RF spectrum there is, is all there ever will be, and as more & more hams come into the hobby, the more & more crowded it IS going to get! Matt/KK5DR From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:23 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!homer.alpha.net!mvb.saic.com!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 12:07:51 GMT Lines: 13 Saying HF is too crowded is like saying the roads are too crowded. It depends on where, when and one's own definition of "crowded". Personally, I find there's lots of space available on HF except as you say, during certain contests -- and even then the WARC bands are a contest-free zone. Incidentally, in your post you mention bandwidth figures of 3 kHz for SSB and 1 kHz for CW. Both of those can be done with significantly less, especially CW. RTTY (my personal favorite) only takes up 250 Hz, and the 'TOR modes only a little bit more. Perhaps this is part of your difficulty? 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!usenet From: Steve Sampson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Date: 25 Nov 1995 16:55:00 GMT Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <497hp4$6dp@news.icon.net> References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc105.icon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) X-URL: news://news/DILLpu.6Mt@eskimo.com The reason most people think HF is too crowded, is they want to set up a NET on a particular frequency, at a time that everyone else is using HF. The band could be dead from 2100Z to 0000Z, but loaded with NETs after that. I think the concept of a NET is so outdated as to be funny in a beserk sort of way. Most sound to be in their 80's, and sucking on an oxygen hose. They visualize themselves as being 20, but don't have any stamina past 9pm local. Two things would improve HF Amateur 200%. The first is to ban NETs, the second is to restrict contests to a slice. By getting Hams to talk instead of mimicking CB channels, or rabid women at a dress sale, then we will have improved HF, and made it something new licenses would be interested in. Not many modern young people have the drive to be on HF after listening to it for 5 minutes. It's kinda like turning the clock back to 1960 technology-wise, but without the morals or good citizenship. Most conversations turn into 4 letter words after even 5 minutes. When some schmuck from overseas comes on the air, 9000 frothing idiots try to key up at the same time. All to get a postcard with his call on it. It makes you want to cry, that America even has this many mental cases. What we need is a good drug to fight this addiction. The ARRL is the pusher, so we can't expect them to solve the problem. It needs attention by professionals. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:26 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 17:16:50 GMT Lines: 32 Sender: charles1@netcom9.netcom.com In article <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com>, wrote: >I have a few statements & questions to make; >First off I am only talking about the HF AMATUER SPECTRUM now. Here's how it breaks down; > >You must look closely at who is saying this, and why. I would guess the average age of HF HAMs is 65 years old. 70,80,90 year olds are common. HF HAM population most likely is dropping due to death. >My question is; What is that "MAJIC" number, how many is enough, what is a "healthy" growth rate? A healthy growth rate would be when HF ham population was not dropping. >The FCC says that all the RF spectrum there is, is all there ever will be, >and as more & more hams come into >the hobby, the more & more crowded it IS going to get! There is LOTS of room on uhf/vhf for new hams. I've never seen these bands overly crowded in the largest of cities. Most new hams are no-code or maybe tech+. I've talked to many who are trying to reach 13wpm, but never find the time to do it. On the 200mhz, 900mhz, and 1.3ghz band there is virtually NOBODY. Lots of room for new hams there. One reason the HF bands are crowded now is that many bands are dead due to low sunspot cycle. Things will spread out in a few years. It would be interesting to get some REAL figures on the HF versus UHF/VHF HAM population growths. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:28 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Message-ID: <1995Nov25.184030.10643@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 18:40:30 GMT Lines: 109 In article <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> kk5dr@bga.com writes: >I have a few statements & questions to make; >First off I am only talking about the HF AMATUER SPECTRUM now. Here's how it breaks down; >(1) The total HF radio specrtum usable for AMATUER operators is; 3.750 mhz >(2) Accordding to the ARRL band plan(gentlemens agreement) SSB is; 1.973 mhz >(3) CW is; 1.198 mhz >(4) Using these figures, there is theoredical maximum usage level for HF, being; 1,856 qso's That's obviously wrong, so there must be something wrong with the assumptions which follow (and there is). >(5) SSB 1,973khz divided by 3khz = 658 qso's But realistic on air experience shows that spacing need only be about 1.8 kHz for signals of equal strength. That gives 1096 QSO slots, and with a minimum of 2 amateurs required for a QSO, that accomodates 2192. But that number is also much lower than actual on the air experience supports, so there's still something wrong with this (see below). >(6) CW 1,198khz divided by 1khz = 1,198 qso's OOK Morse signals are non-overlapping at a spacing of 400 Hz, and operators have found in practice that spacings as little as 250 Hz are usable at slower speeds. >(7) Hence 658 + 1,198 = 1,856 total qso's If we accepted your assumptions so far (with the corrections noted) we'd have 4588 amateurs in QSO at once in mixed SSB/CW modes totally filling HF. But actual on the air experience shows that not to be the case, so there is still something you are missing (see below). >I know this does not take into account for propagation, but that's beside the point, Ah ha, now we find the fatal flaw. Propagation *does* matter. In fact it matters a *lot*. Notice that the band filling SSB count above was 2192, but that assumes that all signals (from anywhere in the world) have equal strength at your receiver. They don't. If there is only a 12 db difference in signal strength, QSOs can be carried on simultaneously *on the same channel* by more than one pair of stations. Differences in propagation from one path to another are *frequently* 12 db or more, so your counts really only apply to the local area. The frequencies are reused again and again in different areas along different propagation paths. >there are 750,000 hams >in the U.S.A., and if only 10% = 7,500 were to get on HF, the bands would be over flowing. >If only 1% of them were on SSB, it would be too many. But of course there are about 260,000 amateurs in the US licensed to get on HF, and according to the latest figures released by ARRL, 79% of them operate SSB (and about 2.5 *million* amateurs in the world, with a majority of them able to get on HF). Now since the bands *aren't* congested past using, your scenario falls flat on its face. The most extreme situation happens annually during Field Day. There are many more than 7500 amateur stations on HF on that day, but still there are some pretty impressive scores rolled up, so the bands are certainly usable under extreme pressure. >I here all the talk about needing more hams, WE NEED MORE HAMS, or ham radio will die! >You must look closely at who is saying this, and why. >If it's so important that we have "so many" new hams, then set a goal, the "majic" number, that if we reach >it, hams radio will be in no danger of dieing. >My question is; What is that "MAJIC" number, how many is enough, what is a "healthy" growth rate? A number that represents effective political power is 3 million (see NRA). More would be better, but 3 million should be adequate. A healthy growth rate is one which results in amateur radio operator demographics tracking the demographics of the US population at large. That hasn't been the case since 1968, but things are turning around a bit now and the average age of the amateur population is no longer increasing at a rate of nearly one year per year (which represented a greying (and dying) of amateur radio which could not be sustained over the long term). >Anyone who listens to HF on a weekend, knows what I'm talking about, GOD help you if there is a contest >running(and when isn't there one) on a weekend that you want to get on the air. Then I'd suggest you need to sharpen your operating skills. Certainly those participating in the contests have, since they are effectively communicating. If you can't, you're doing something wrong. >The first thing any of you are going to tell me is; Go on vhf/uhf etc. That is not what I became a ham for, >my goal was HF, where DX is "reliable" on a given band. That is also the goal of most of the hams out >there, Actually, if Dx were *reliable* it wouldn't be a challenge now would it? And Dxers wouldn't bother competing for awards now would they? This all sounds like you've never really operated much at HF. >if not, why bother with having different classes of licenses, Now there's a good question. Why indeed do we bother with having different classes of licenses? I can't think of a good reason. (I've heard several *bad* reasons, but not any good ones.) >there needs to be a "clear" set goal, >for advancement, & added privleages rewarded for it, otherwise, what's the use in all of this?! Maybe radio communication and experimentation? If the only point of amateur radio is the passing of exams, then indeed we should ask what's the use of all this? Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Date: 25 Nov 1995 17:34:17 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <4985l9$17g@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article , charles copeland wrote: >There is LOTS of room on uhf/vhf for new hams. I've never seen these >bands overly crowded in the largest of cities. My guess is you don't get on 2 meters in NYC or LA much, huh? MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!freenet.columbus.oh.us!not-for-mail From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Date: 25 Nov 1995 18:04:13 -0500 Organization: The Greater Columbus FreeNet Lines: 41 Message-ID: <4987dd$ndb@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> <1995Nov25.184030.10643@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> kk5dr@bga.com writes: : > why bother with having different classes of licenses, : Now there's a good question. Why indeed do we bother with having different : classes of licenses? I can't think of a good reason. (I've heard several : *bad* reasons, but not any good ones.) There were three original reasons for the U.S. practice of setting aside sub-bands for "phone". One was that AM phone with the technology of the 1925-1945 period really did wipe out code. We did not have much selectivity, notch filters, good modulation practices and so on. Two was an effort to deal with the problem KK5GR is discussing - AM phone at more than 6kHz per channel did seem to threaten the activity of the "average" ham with a 210 or (later) a 6L6 final if it were permitted over the entire HF band. AND for most of that time the VHF bands were not much help - superregenerative receivers and general instability forced speacings of hundreds of kHz on 5 and 2-1/2 meters. Three was that there were so many more U.S. hams than anywhere else in the world that if U.S. phone stations could operate on any frequency, as other hams could, nobody in the U.S. could hope to hear anybody abroad. To a considerable degree, the institution of license classes in the late twenties was trying to do the same things as the subbands. Those with a sufficient interest to pursue higher classes of license could hope to get out of the QRM to some degree. It's still true.. seventy five meter DX phone is almost impossible outside a very narrow band around 3795 kHz, which is partly protected by the license class system. 73 and GL ( maybe, to carry the cw practice to an even more absurd extreme I should say 73 es gl ) Gerry K8EF From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:31 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: High speed CW with a KAM X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 02:28:13 GMT Lines: 11 Would anyone like to try some really high speed CW (machine sent and received of course)? My KAM manual says it will send and receive up to 99 words per minute, and I think it'd be fun to try it out. Other TNCs can probably do it as well. Please email me at the address below and let's set up a sked. I'm in the Seattle area. 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:32 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Howard Stern Southern ON? From: chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!overload.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!fonorola!news.crso.com!canrem.com!chris.smart Distribution: world Message-ID: <60.48064.4727.0N200375@canrem.com> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 16:42:00 -0500 Organization: CRS Online (Toronto, Ontario) Lines: 30 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right area for this question, but its as close as I could find. I am using a GE SuperRadio III for AM broadcast reception, and am in the southern part of Ontario Canada, about 60 miles west of Toronto. I want to pick up Howard Sterns show, but need some frequencies and times to try. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6 iQCVAgUBMLY7R9ZU0fzBPqHhAQFgpQP+MUXwNeSsoaaAeXl7Hk5AfccW6GxcY7wI eMctlTKmCi2oKPXUDpvY+MIEwO/eoU77ng/8ohMI/ADK2E0UByvcO9tv9FdFG1TE ELXIVrXwKDA47+4x4z0qrqbF5NC+O+jd/Yc/iOpCBUDBGwMlk6lPk+AGqY5v3YOd xcXMFFwrxSk= =Ie6E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!inferno.com!vector Subject: Howard Stern Southern ON? Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: vector@inferno.com Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 04:16:28 PST Message-ID: <805787181401@inferno.com> Organization: The Inferno - San Jose, CA Lines: 37 CH>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- CH>Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right area for this question, but its as CH>close as I could find. CH>I am using a GE SuperRadio III for AM broadcast reception, and am in the CH>southern part of Ontario Canada, about 60 miles west of Toronto. I want CH>to pick up Howard Sterns show, but need some frequencies and times to try. CH>Any suggestions? CH>Thanks in advance CH>.. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! CH>___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 CH>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- CH>Version: 2.6 CH>iQCVAgUBMLY7R9ZU0fzBPqHhAQFgpQP+MUXwNeSsoaaAeXl7Hk5AfccW6GxcY7wI CH>eMctlTKmCi2oKPXUDpvY+MIEwO/eoU77ng/8ohMI/ADK2E0UByvcO9tv9FdFG1TE CH>ELXIVrXwKDA47+4x4z0qrqbF5NC+O+jd/Yc/iOpCBUDBGwMlk6lPk+AGqY5v3YOd CH>xcXMFFwrxSk= CH>=Ie6E CH>-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- CH>PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! why would anyone in his right mind want to listen to stern's show? i graduated from the toilet-grade humor 7 years ago. greg kd6ven From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mhv.net!bbs.mhv.net!Thomas.Randall From: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net (Thomas Randall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Howard Stern Southern ON? Date: 25 Nov 1995 13:42:59 GMT Organization: MHVNet, the Mid Hudson Valley's Internet connection Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4976h3$5ne@over.mhv.net> References: <60.48064.4727.0N200375@canrem.com> Reply-To: Thomas.Randall@bbs.mhv.net NNTP-Posting-Host: csbh.mhv.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Chris Smart (chris.smart@canrem.com) wrote: : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right area for this question, but its as : close as I could find. : I am using a GE SuperRadio III for AM broadcast reception, and am in the : southern part of Ontario Canada, about 60 miles west of Toronto. I want : to pick up Howard Sterns show, but need some frequencies and times to try. : Any suggestions? : Thanks in advance : .. 73, VE3 SHT. 19 years old, and licensed since June 15, 1987! : ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- : Version: 2.6 : iQCVAgUBMLY7R9ZU0fzBPqHhAQFgpQP+MUXwNeSsoaaAeXl7Hk5AfccW6GxcY7wI : eMctlTKmCi2oKPXUDpvY+MIEwO/eoU77ng/8ohMI/ADK2E0UByvcO9tv9FdFG1TE : ELXIVrXwKDA47+4x4z0qrqbF5NC+O+jd/Yc/iOpCBUDBGwMlk6lPk+AGqY5v3YOd : xcXMFFwrxSk= : =Ie6E : -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- : PGP 2.6 public key available upon request! Try the rec.radio.shortwave group. Tom From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!FirePower.com!airwaves!rrb From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.broadcasting Subject: Re: Howard Stern Southern ON? Followup-To: rec.radio.broadcasting Date: 26 Nov 1995 08:10:14 GMT Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 12 Approved: rrb@airwaves.chi.il.us Distribution: world Message-ID: <4997d6$dcp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <60.48064.4727.0N200375@canrem.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clm.aiss.uiuc.edu Originator: rrb@clm.aiss.uiuc.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94735 rec.radio.broadcasting:18585 In article <60.48064.4727.0N200375@canrem.com> chris.smart@canrem.com (Chris Smart) writes: >Hi! I'm not sure if this is the right area for this question, but its as >close as I could find. rec.radio.broadcasting is a better group for this question, but try WKBW on 1520KHz mornings. Buffalo station, wait, they changed callsign, now WWKB > >I am using a GE SuperRadio III for AM broadcast reception, and am in the >southern part of Ontario Canada, about 60 miles west of Toronto. I want >to pick up Howard Sterns show, but need some frequencies and times to try. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kay2020@aol.com (Kay2020) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I am still posting Date: 24 Nov 1995 16:20:55 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 9 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <495cvn$e33@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <491rp8$57@alterdial.UU.NET> Reply-To: kay2020@aol.com (Kay2020) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com Well something sure made your ignorant ass drop about 20 different newsgroups out of your reply chain. (probably ccsnet.com) :-) At least you're here and no harm is done to the likes of rec.alpine.skiing or rec.crossword. Kay :-) From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:37 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsfeed.cit.cornell.edu!cornellcs!rochester!rocksanne!news From: "Joseph H. Wilkowski" Subject: Icom 706 vs Yaesu 900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <1995Nov21.172124.20100@news.wrc.xerox.com> Sender: news@news.wrc.xerox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Xerox Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:21:24 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Lines: 10 All you intrepid mobile HF ops out there. I tried to retrieve previous articles concerning the above mentiioned rigs, no luck all have expired ( at least from my prospestive). Can I probe for some impressions, good bad or indifferent. Performance problems ? I am wondering if the 706 is a comprimise being dc to daylight type of rig... Tnx /joe k8fc From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:39 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Icom 706 vs Yaesu 900 Message-ID: <1995Nov22.121434.23258@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <1995Nov21.172124.20100@news.wrc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 12:14:34 GMT Lines: 49 In article <1995Nov21.172124.20100@news.wrc.xerox.com> "Joseph H. Wilkowski" writes: > >All you intrepid mobile HF ops out there. I tried to retrieve previous >articles concerning the above mentiioned rigs, no luck all have expired ( >at least from my prospestive). Can I probe for some impressions, good >bad or indifferent. Performance problems ? I am wondering if the 706 is >a comprimise being dc to daylight type of rig... As far as I can tell, most of the compromise is in the DC to daylight part, and not in the amateur band part. The radio doesn't really offer the sensitivity at upper VHF that the advertisements seem to promise, though there are mods out already which help that problem. The only real negative I've found about mine is that you really have to *use* the preamp and attenuator functions. Dynamic range isn't as good as we've become accustomed to in some of the larger and more expensive rigs. But given its size and its intended purpose as a mobile rig running on an inherently narrow banded and insensitive mobile antenna, I think it'll do fine. I've been using mine mostly for HF data operations at home side by side with the old standby IC-735 into a really crummy temporary antenna. I think it does as well, and is easier to use, than the IC-735. I haven't encountered conditions where the IC-735 worked and the IC-706 didn't. The fine tuning rate, and the RTTY narrow filter option really work well. Thermal control seems good too, though the fan is a bit loud. This radio has a *lot* of features, and a surprising number of them are well thought out, easy to use (I expect particularly in a mobile environment, its laid out very well), and genuinely useful. I am a bit disappointed with the stock SSB filter. A sharper filter would be useful if you're a heavy voice user (one's an option), but I'm not. I do mostly data, so I fitted the optional narrow RTTY filter instead. I chose the IC-706 over the FT-900 based primarily on size. It's ultimately going in a vehicle with very limited space for another radio (there's already GPS, Loran, VHF and UHF, and computers in there). The IC-706 offers some very flexible mounting options for that. The lack of an autotuner isn't a detriment because most of the built in autotuners I've tried can't deal with mobile antennas very well anyway. I'll likely mount a remote tuner at the antenna if I decide I need one (the segments where data operation are common aren't that wide so I probably won't). Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: broehrig@admin.AUrora.EDU (Bob Roehrig) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V95 #1064 Date: 23 Nov 95 15:19:24 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <199511230514.VAA05748@mail.ucsd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup wrote: > Subject: CW Military Training Doug, N6TQS said: > > Some of you are missing the point of the question. Given that the > armed forces were training CW operators for large numbers of years > (even if not currently doing so), perhaps the techniques they used are > of use to those of us who want to learn code. Good question. > > My experience was that they selected only those with an aptitude. > When taking aptitude tests in Navy boot camp, in 1965, among other > things they tried us out on a quicky code learning session. It went > something like this, as I recall: headphones on, here's an E, here's > a T, here's an A, here's an N; repeat this for 5 minutes ..... etc.... I went thru the same thing in Army boot camp at Fort Knox in 1963. They stuck our company in a classroom for about an hour and did the same thing as Doug experienced. After they taught the several letters, they started sending them and slowly increased the speed up to about 20 WPM. I think I was the last one still copying at the end. Some years later our explorer scout troop got some code learning tapes from Air Force Mars. They are about the best I have ever heard. Not only are they teaching the code but the phonetic alphabet at the same time. The farnsworth method is used in these tapes. Bob, K9EUI From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!metro!ipso!corona!not-for-mail From: rwc@ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Subject: IPS Daily Report - 21 November 95 Followup-To: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 21 Nov 1995 23:21:52 -0000 Organization: IPS Radio & Space Services. Sydney, Australia. Lines: 80 Approved: rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca Distribution: world Message-ID: <48tmug$qmi@flare.syd.ips.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: flare.syd.ips.oz.au Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:260 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94557 rec.radio.info:10427 SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 21/2330Z NOVEMBER 1995 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 21 NOVEMBER AND FORECAST FOR 22 NOVEMBER - 24 NOVEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: Very low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 73/9 GOES satellite data for 20 Nov Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: NA Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: NA Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: NA X-ray background: NA Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 22 Nov 23 Nov 24 Nov Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 22 Nov: 73/9 ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 20 Nov Learmonth 4 2121 1211 Fredericksburg 5 6 Planetary 8 4 Observed Kp for 20 Nov: NA 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST DATE Ap CONDITIONS 22 Nov 4 quiet 23 Nov 4 quiet 24 Nov 4 quiet ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 21 Nov Normal Normal Normal PCA Event : None 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 22 Nov Normal Normal Normal 23 Nov Normal Normal Normal 24 Nov Normal Normal Normal ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY DATE T index 21 Nov 10 Observed Australian Regional MUFs: Townsvile: near predicted monthly values with spread F 13-18UT. Sydney: 10% enhanced until 9UT then near predicted monthly values. Hobart: near predicted monthly values. Predicted Monthly T index for November: 10 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST DATE T index MUFs 22 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values 23 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values 24 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values COMMENT: -- IPS Radio and Space Services | email: rwc@ips.gov.au PO Box 5606 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/ West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/ tel: +61 2 4148300 | fax: +61 2 4148331 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!corona!not-for-mail From: rwc@ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Subject: IPS Daily Report - 22 November 95 Followup-To: aus.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 22 Nov 1995 23:13:20 -0000 Organization: IPS Radio & Space Services. Sydney, Australia. Lines: 82 Approved: rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca Distribution: world Message-ID: <490aqg$5to@flare.syd.ips.oz.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: flare.syd.ips.oz.au Xref: news.epix.net aus.radio.amateur.misc:261 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94609 rec.radio.info:10430 SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 22/2330Z NOVEMBER 1995 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 22 NOVEMBER AND FORECAST FOR 23 NOVEMBER - 25 NOVEMBER ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: Very low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 73/9 GOES satellite data for 21 Nov Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 3.5E+05 Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.7E+04 Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 2.6E+06 (normal) X-ray background: A1.0 Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 23 Nov 24 Nov 25 Nov Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 23 Nov: 73/9 ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 21 Nov Learmonth 6 2222 2212 Fredericksburg 5 2 Planetary 7 2 Observed Kp for 21 Nov: 0110 0100 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST DATE Ap CONDITIONS 23 Nov 4 quiet 24 Nov 4 quiet 25 Nov 4 quiet ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 22 Nov Normal Normal Normal PCA Event : None 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST LATITUDE BAND DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH 23 Nov Normal Normal Normal 24 Nov Normal Normal Normal 25 Nov Normal Normal Normal ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY DATE T index 22 Nov 15 Observed Australian Regional MUFs: Darwin: mostly near predicted monthly values. Townsville: 15-30% enhanced 04-09UT. Sydney: near predicted monthly values. Hobart: near predicted monthly values with night-time spread F. Sporadic E layer was observed at all sites. Predicted Monthly T index for November: 10 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST DATE T index MUFs 23 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values 24 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values 25 Nov 10 near predicted monthly values -- IPS Radio and Space Services | email: rwc@ips.gov.au PO Box 5606 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/ West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/ tel: +61 2 4148300 | fax: +61 2 4148331 From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:44 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!van-bc!ddsw1!news.mcs.net!indep1!clifto From: clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) Subject: Re: Is Motorola Building Amateur Gear Again? Looks like "Yes" Message-ID: Organization: as little as possible References: <48h47i$oak@news.accessone.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:59:18 GMT Lines: 12 In article <48h47i$oak@news.accessone.com> vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) writes: >It looks like the answer might be yes. You can read more about it at the free >ham radio magazine, Ham Radio Online, available at: >http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm I'm on a uucp site which doesn't have web access. Has anyone (who's read it) got any comments? -- Cliff Sharp There are days when no matter which WA9PDM way you spit, it's upwind. clifto@indep1.chi.il.us --The First Law of Reality From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!hk.linkage.net!interserve.com.hk!usenet From: Richard Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: IS THERE ANY OLD TUBE SW RECEIVER FOR SALE?? Date: 25 Nov 1995 17:48:18 GMT Organization: InterNetNews site Lines: 6 Message-ID: <497kt2$od0@inter.interserve.com.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: dum34.interserve.com.hk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) If you have please tell me. Thanks, Richard Ho email:arichman@interserve.com.hk From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ccsnet.com!k1oik Subject: Is this praise or what? Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: k1oik@ccsnet.com Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 06:32:45 EST Message-ID: <8055133343902@ccsnet.com> Organization: Cape Cods Internet Address Lines: 55 Now this guy sees the real K1OIK: Date: 10-09-95 (06:43) Number: 10326 From: LARRY ROLL Refer#: NONE To: STEVEN HILDEBRAND Recvd: NO Subj: Burt Fisher: The Legend! Conf: (10) HAM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve: Burt does EVERYTHING better than everyone, don't you know that by now? He's a one-man army, the hero of heroes, and a legend in his own mind! I just hope I get a chance to meet him in person some day and see what he's really like! But for now, all I can do is read his posts here on Fidonet, where he graciously tells us of his overall superiority as a human being, ham radio operator, lover, etc. and just dream about being like Burt when I grow up! I think Steven Spielberg should do a film all about the adventures of Burt Fisher. Burt could be played by Harrison Ford, his wife by Anne Archer. The screen play should be based on the upcoming novel by Tom Clancy entitled "Burt Fisher...A Clear and Present Hero of the World!" I can't wait...it should be quite entertaining to see how normal, everyday people stumble around, trying to muddle through their pitifully dull lives somehow, while Burt Fisher stands apart from them all, serving as the shining example of perfection for all to emulate. I think Burt should also have his own nationally syndicated radio talk show, just like Rush Limbaugh or G. Gordon Liddy. Instead of the "Excellence In Broadcasting Network" his show could run on the "Overwhelming Superiority in Broadcasting" network. Of course, Burt probably agrees with all of this. After all, a person with all of Burt's qualities has no need for false modesty. And, it's just as well...after all, how we know about all of Burt's fine qualities, and our own shortcomings, if he didn't tell us of them! Ah, yes...Burt Fisher...the man, the myth, the legend! Burt Fisher for President? Naw...that's too lowly an office for him. We need to think of something a lot better. Dictator? Chancellor? Fherer? Hey Burt...I know you're reading this...how about an autographed picture? 73 de Larry, WR2F President, Burt Fisher Fan Club ... I am Fisher of Borg...No Hams are good enough to be assimilated! -- ******************************************************************* * Message Sent From: CCS WORLD Cape Cod's Internet Address * * http://ccsnet.com Telnet://ccsnet.com Ftp://unix.ccsnet.com * * Games: TW2002, VGA Planets, 4 Player DOOM, Game Connection * From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.bctel.net!news.cyberstore.ca!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Laser Masking Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:01:59 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 5 Message-ID: <48vs37$lq9@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news.ultranet.com!usenet From: mponte@ultranet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... Date: 22 Nov 1995 20:14:15 GMT Organization: http://www.ultranet.com/~mponte/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: <4900an$2nb@caesar.ultra.net> References: <48ld8k$jn8@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: mponte.ultranet.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Just passing by and saw this. This sounds like the stuff I use to hear on 75 m AM. Michael Ponte WA1BZJ mponte@ultranet.com http://www.ultranet.com/~mponte/ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:41:15 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4908ub$ir4@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48ld8k$jn8@cnn.MOTOWN.GE.COM> <4900an$2nb@caesar.ultra.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: mponte@ultranet.com mponte@ultranet.com wrote: > >Just passing by and saw this. >This sounds like the stuff I use to hear on 75 m AM. Routine traffic or contesting makes you a man? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!bighorn.accessnv.com!usenet From: FRONTIER@accessnv.com (frontier@accessnv.com) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc, Subject: need help Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 06:16:27 GMT Organization: accessnv.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: <496cbr$1c8_002@bighorn.accessnv.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bighorn Keywords: Need help: Heathkit SSB Transceiver HW 100 To: all X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21686 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94673 Hi! Does anybody know, what following is worth: Heathkit SSB Transceiver Model HW-100 with Assembly Manual somebody must have modified it or so, because on the top of the large piece, there is a hole cutout and in the hole is another piece coming out. I don't know if it works, there is no Power cabel. Any help would be appreciated, or if somebody is interested in it, please make me an fair offer. Thanks Johanna frontier@accessnv.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!gti.gti.net!gti.gti.net!not-for-mail From: mcdowell@gti.gti.net (Mike McDowell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need novice/tech testing program. Date: 22 Nov 1995 14:52:12 -0500 Organization: GTI GlobalNet - (201) 285-9099 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <48vv1c$aqk@gti.gti.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gti.gti.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Is there a good one available? Michael From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!rahul.net!a2i!bug.rahul.net!a2i!genmagic!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: gk1702@ix.netcom.com (GOPALA KRISHNA ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NEED TO SPREAD THE WORD. TRY TO ADVERTISE ON THE WWW. Date: 21 Nov 1995 11:53:42 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 6 Message-ID: <48sek6$o7j@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alb-ny4-15.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Nov 21 3:53:42 AM PST 1995 CLASSIFIED ADS-100 WORDS OR LESS FOR $95 FOR ONE FULL YEAR AND HOME PAGE ADS-1 HEADLINE, 1 SUB-HEADLINE AND 45 LINES OF TEXT FOR $95 FOR ONE FULL YEAR. PLEASE SEND YOUR ADVERTISEMENT INFORMATION AND PAYMENT TO:GOPALA KRISHNA, 248 SHAKERRUN APTS, ALBANY, NY-12205. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: moressic@ix.netcom.com (Bill Moressi ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NEET WIDE BAND SCAN MOD FOR FT-470 ht! Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:33:33 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4966at$ea8@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-cha-nc1-08.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Nov 24 8:33:33 PM PST 1995 If you would like to know how to easly modify your FT-470 WITHOUT TAKING IT APART E-mail me.. This is the best! this makes it scan a hole lot more than it did. You might even need to get a new antenna!! E-mail me at "moressic@ix.netcom.com" Or easyer reply! 73's Ke4qze From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sgigate.sgi.com!news1.best.com!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!blue.weeg.uiowa.edu!rawiley From: rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuse??? Date: 22 Nov 95 19:28:33 GMT Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA Lines: 8 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <48lj2k$it2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: red.weeg.uiowa.edu . Burt et.al. can be annoying, but I can tolerate them a lot easier than any net cop who would censor them. rw From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!usenet From: "John L. Rouse" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Newsgroup abuse??? Date: 24 Nov 1995 16:28:20 GMT Organization: Capital-Gazette Communications Lines: 30 Message-ID: <494rr4$djb@news.infi.net> References: <48lj2k$it2@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: h-alfredo.dc.infi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; I; 16bit) rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) wrote: >. > >Burt et.al. can be annoying, but I can tolerate >them a lot easier than any net cop who would >censor them. > > >rw I agree, but it sure would be nice if some of these folks who get all aquiver when they see their names attached to a missive, no matter how purile, would exercise a little self-censorship.It would also be a great boon to this news group if those folks who get irritated at the endless, inane postings of some would restrain themselves from commenting on them. It's a given that if some of the dolts who clutter up news groups with verbal droppings were totally ignored, they'd go away, perhaps to alt.loonies or somesuch.... 73, John KA3DBN -- /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ John L. Rouse Packet: KA3DBN@KA3RFE.MD.USA.NOA Capital-Gazette Communications FAX: (301) 464-7027 jrouse@dc.infi.net VOICE MAIL: 1-500-346-0440 ............Baltimore-Washington-Annapolis-Bowie................. \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:56 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Date: 24 Nov 1995 07:46:32 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 18 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <494er8$8ig@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <48urqk$cj@sundial.gatech.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <48urqk$cj@sundial.gatech.edu>, wt2@prism.gatech.edu (William C. Thompson) writes: >But watching those ARRL bigshots walking around >Dayton a few years ago, with there JUST SHUT UP AND LEARN THE CODE >buttons, did not make me feel inclined to associate myself with such a >group. I also assumed the feeling was mutual. i've been to many dayton's and have yet seen that button but I WANT ONE!!! funny, we must be going to different ARRL booths. the one i go to has nice pleasant persons who seem to answer questions. never had anyone of them come over and try to "convert" me. let me know. i'll make it a point to look for your ARRL booth this MAY. steve Back to the shadows again From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.iii.net!dts From: dts@peanut.senie.com (Daniel Senie) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:33:08 GMT Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting Lines: 32 Message-ID: <498947$t0v@news.iii.net> References: <816885577snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> <48qu2n$4il@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> <816910557snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: peanut.iii.net In article <816910557snz@microvst.demon.co.uk>, Anthony R. Gold wrote: )In article <48qu2n$4il@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> ) mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us "Gary McDuffie, Sr." writes: ) )> But, tactical callsigns are allowed during certain operations, at least in the )> old regs. I haven't specifically looked for it in the new ones. ) )The Commission's Rules for Amateur Radio (CFR 47 Part 97) do allow for the )addition of self-assigned indicators in addition to assigned call signs )and separated from the call sign by a slant mark or eqivalent, but I know )of nothing about "tactical callsigns" in the place of assigned call signs. Tactical callsigns are commonplace in disaster and public service communication. Use of tactical callsigns does not relieve the operator from proper identification at the end of, or every 10 minutes during a communication. What tactical callsigns DO provide is useful information (which station is calling) and rapid identification to the net control station and other stations on frequency. During a busy event like a marathon, it's important to know that "Lead Car" is the station calling, for example. When that station is finished with the exchange with net control, a quick ID is added. The net control (and other stations) don't care which ham is at a particular spot. Indeed often several hams will cover a position during the course of an event or disaster. So, tactical callsigns are simply an aid to efficient communication. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie Internet: dan@senie.com, Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@senie.com http://www.senie.com Packet Radio: N1JEB@KA1SRD.MA From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:58 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!eskimo!localhost From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Old Timers, need key parts X-Nntp-Posting-Host: tia1.eskimo.com Message-ID: Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 References: <495k3m$jqb@fohnix.metronet.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 18:41:20 GMT Lines: 5 Great subject line, I can identify with that.... 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:54:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!candea From: candea@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Mihai Candea) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,alt.radio.uk,aus.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Pioneer KE-A530 question Date: 23 Nov 1995 21:31:27 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 26 Sender: candea@mit.edu Message-ID: <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: candea@mit.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: the-good.mit.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94630 rec.radio.cb:24593 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12754 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21656 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11710 alt.radio.uk:5043 aus.radio.amateur.misc:262 I apologize if I am posting this to the wrong newsgroup but I am in desperate need of advice. I have a Pioneer KE-A530 car radio + cassette that my friend removed from his car a while ago. I am not sure which wires go where because I don't have the manual anymore and there is no indication on the radio as to what each wire is. I would appreciate if any of you could tell how to make the connections (i.e. which is PWR, GND, speakers, etc.). The wires are in three "bunches": Bunch 1: blue black Bunch 2: green/black (2 wires) gray/black (2 wires) Bunch 3: black (this is definitely a GND -- connected to case) red (has a 0.5 Amp fuse on it and a little box) yellow orange (this must be PWR -- it has a 0.5 Amp fuse) I really appreciate your help. I reply to my personal e-mail address, as I do not read this newsgroup regularly. Thank you, From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!candea From: candea@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Mihai Candea) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,alt.radio.uk,aus.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Pioneer KE-A530 question Date: 23 Nov 1995 21:37:17 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Lines: 8 Message-ID: <492pid$3fk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: the-good.mit.edu Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94631 rec.radio.cb:24594 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12755 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21657 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11711 alt.radio.uk:5044 aus.radio.amateur.misc:263 Sorry for the last paragraph... I meant I would appreciate if you replied to my personal e-mail address, as I do not read this newsgroup regularly. Thanks a lot, From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.packet.net!news.combase.com!imci3!news.internetMCI.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!news.ti.com!usenet From: fitr%mimi@magic.itg.ti.com (J.Fitter BV/N0IAT) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,alt.radio.uk,aus.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Pioneer KE-A530 question Date: 24 Nov 1995 06:21:54 GMT Organization: Taipei, TAIWAN R.O.C Lines: 57 Message-ID: <493oa2$1dh@tilde.csc.ti.com> References: <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: joentam@transend.com.tw NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.167.36.115 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.2 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94640 rec.radio.cb:24606 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12767 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21673 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11717 alt.radio.uk:5046 aus.radio.amateur.misc:265 In article <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, candea@ATHENA.MIT.EDU says... > >I apologize if I am posting this to the wrong newsgroup but I am in desperate >need of advice. I have a Pioneer KE-A530 car radio + cassette that my friend >removed from his car a while ago. I am not sure which wires go where because I >don't have the manual anymore and there is no indication on the radio as to >what each wire is. I would appreciate if any of you could tell how to make the >connections (i.e. which is PWR, GND, speakers, etc.). > >The wires are in three "bunches": > > Bunch 1: blue > black > > Bunch 2: green/black (2 wires) > gray/black (2 wires) > > Bunch 3: black (this is definitely a GND -- connected to case) > red (has a 0.5 Amp fuse on it and a little box) > yellow > orange (this must be PWR -- it has a 0.5 Amp fuse) > > >I really appreciate your help. I reply to my personal e-mail address, as >I do not read this newsgroup regularly. > >Thank you, > I'll try, but dont blame me if it blows up!!!. Ok...start with bunch 3. The black wire goes to battery negative terminal, or chassis ground. The red wire with fuse holder and box (noise filter, likely) goes to ignition ACC ON. T The yellow wire is used if you want to send a signal to an auto amplifier (external power amp, subwoofer, etc) or a power up/down automatic retractable antenna. The orange wire might be to control a clock if the radio has a clock built in. Orange wire would then go to the battery and the red wire would go to the acc side of the ignition switch. Then, when you turn the car -on-, the radio works. Otherwise, when the car is off, the only power received by the stereo is on the orange wire and the only operating function is the clock. Only when the car is -on- does the radio/tape actually work. bunch 1 : blue/black...bunch 1. not sure, possibly line in for an equalizer. Bunch 2: most likely, this is left channel positive and negative (to speaker left) most likely, this is right channel positive and negative (speaker right) Without trying it, it's hard to say. Does the radio have a "fader" for front-and-back speakers, or is it only a 2 channel output (left and right but no front and back)??? Keep your posts here...someone can probably help ya. -- 73 from Joe BV2/N0IAT Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C. Ex. 7J1AOF(Japan) KA0ZDH(novice) YU3/N0IAT(Slovenia) Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986 //comments are mine only From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: rhardiman@aol.com (RHardiman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Pioneer KE-A530 question Date: 25 Nov 1995 05:28:08 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 47 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <496r3o$qvd@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <493oa2$1dh@tilde.csc.ti.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <493oa2$1dh@tilde.csc.ti.com>, fitr%mimi@magic.itg.ti.com (J.Fitter BV/N0IAT) writes: >I'll try, but dont blame me if it blows up!!!. Ok...start with bunch 3. The >black >wire goes to battery negative terminal, or chassis ground. The red wire with >fuse >holder and box (noise filter, likely) goes to ignition ACC ON. T The yellow >wire is >used if you want to send a signal to an auto amplifier (external power amp, >subwoofer, etc) or a power up/down automatic retractable antenna. The orange >wire >might be to control a clock if the radio has a clock built in. Orange wire >would then >go to the battery and the red wire would go to the acc side of the ignition >switch. >Then, when you turn the car -on-, the radio works. Otherwise, when the car >is off, >the only power received by the stereo is on the orange wire and the only >operating >function is the clock. Only when the car is -on- does the radio/tape >actually work. > >bunch 1 : blue/black...bunch 1. not sure, possibly line in for an >equalizer. > >Bunch 2: most likely, this is left channel positive and negative (to speaker >left) > most likely, this is right channel positive and negative (speaker >right) > > I agree with you. But either the yellow or blue wire is probably for a power antenna. Rod From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!demon!spacemen.demon.co.uk!davidj From: David Atkins Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,alt.radio.uk,aus.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Pioneer KE-A530 question Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:33:19 +0000 Organization: Space Planning Consultants Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6BQ9jAAv$gtwEw32@spacemen.demon.co.uk> References: <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: spacemen.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: spacemen.demon.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 1.09 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94720 rec.radio.cb:24643 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12792 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21718 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11734 alt.radio.uk:5057 aus.radio.amateur.misc:270 In article <492p7f$3dd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, George Mihai Candea writes >I apologize if I am posting this to the wrong newsgroup but I am in desperate >need of advice. I have a Pioneer KE-A530 car radio + cassette that my friend >removed from his car a while ago. I am not sure which wires go where because I >don't have the manual anymore and there is no indication on the radio as to >what each wire is. I would appreciate if any of you could tell how to make the >connections (i.e. which is PWR, GND, speakers, etc.). > yeah, some bugger nicked the one from my car, too! -- David Atkins |Office Space is a vital part Ergonomist |of your Business Strategy From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!earth.superlink.net!usenet From: Edward Woznicki Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Please help with expired license Date: 25 Nov 1995 04:01:51 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. (908) 828-8988 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <4964ff$ncb@earth.superlink.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rb3.superlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2 (Windows; U; 16bit) To: Joseph@panix.com If you call ARRL (860-594-0200) they can probably give you some info. I think you used to get a 1 year grace period. Get hustling though in case its not that long. Cant use it in the meantime. There is also an ARRL web page, not sure if that will give you access to them or not. Ed, AC2A From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Please help with expired license Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:02:24 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4987a0$jte$2@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: You have a 2-year grace period to renew without retest. All you need is to complete and mail an FCC Form-610. -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.netrail.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!qns3.qns.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.uoknor.edu!news From: "Judson L. Ahern" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Proto-newbie in Denver seeks advice Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 13:36:49 -0600 Organization: University of Oklahoma Lines: 75 Message-ID: <30B37BD1.53A6@uoknor.edu> References: <48mg0f$l37@teal.csn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ahern.gcn.uoknor.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2 (Windows; I; 32bit) To: "Robert C. White Jr." Robert C. White Jr. wrote: > Greetings out there! Likewise! > Universal Radio, so I do not know what my abilities are as of yet.) For 99% of folks, *receiving* code is the trick. Most people can send as fast or faster than they receive with just a little practice sending. Be sure to learn the letters as "rhythms", not as dots and dashes. This is why most code tapes and computer code programs send individual characters at around 18 WPM, with long pauses between characters to get the overall speed down to 5 WPM (or whatever). this is know as the Farnsworth method. > I have a few questions which perhaps one of you can answer: > > 1) What would be a good "starter rig" for CW? I'm fairly confused by all > the options out there. While not made of money, I can save up for and > purchase a receiver costing > $1,000 if necessary. I expect to stay > in this hobby for a long time. For a little over $1000 you can buy a *new* transceiver, I believe. To me, choosing between Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu (and anybody I'm leaving out) is a bit like choosing between Ford and Chevy. Find the features you want at the price you can afford. BTW, you want a transceiver, not a receiver. Used to be you could by RX and TX separately, but not any more (more or less). Now, others might be able to make a case that certain rigs are better for CW, but they all are designed for both CW and SSB (and usually AM, FM, some kind of digital mode (FSK), etc.) > 2) The ARRL publication strongly suggests finding other hams in your area > to benefit from the collective wisdom. Does anyone know how to contact > hams in Denver? If not, I will write to ARRL. There used to be an Elmer's list (an Elmer is a mentor, as you describe here) posted here periodically. I haven't been here in a while, so I don't know if it still is. If not, perhaps someone could send you the most recent one. > 3) Do most people around the world transmit CW in English? If not, does > an alphabet exist for other languages such as Arabic or Russian? In a sense, most use English, but with many standard abbreviations (like TX, RX, CW, es (and), ur (your), etc.) and, of course Q-signals. I think there is a section in the ARRL book about that. I'm not a CW guy, so others could give you better info here. > 4) Can CW be legally transmitted by computer? i.e, you know CW, and > are licensed to transmit this mode, but > you prefer to have the software send the information. What about all > the nasty hum generated by the computer? Is that frowned upon? Bill Newkirk addressed this. I have used my computer for CW (OK, I've done a little CW, but don't tell anybody). My fist gets cramps trying to send at 15 to 20 WPM (my brain gets cramps trying to receive at those speeds but that's another story). Hum *might* get into your transmitted signal and that is certainly something you'd need to check out, but you are more likely to have problems with computer noise in your receiver. Because I'm always diddling with my computer, I usually just have one screw holding the case on. When its being used with the radio, I find out why they use about 12 of those buggers normally! > Thanks in advance, and please be gentle with me -- I have been studying for > only a few weeks and may have made a total fool out of myself asking a question > above. Nothing foolish about your questions at all - they're well-posed. My answers may be another matter! 73, Jud -- Jud Ahern jahern@uoknor.edu Amateur Radio: KC5RI Geology & Geophysics, U. of Oklahoma, Norman, OK 73019 "Opinions expressed here reflect the entire University, in one convenient location." From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!simtel!lll-winken.llnl.gov!enews.sgi.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!news From: Jon Bloom Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QEX again... Date: 22 Nov 1995 20:41:39 GMT Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 24 Message-ID: <4901u3$686@mgate.arrl.org> References: <4894ud$1jq@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11693 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94584 jbaltz@vanakam.cc.columbia.edu (Jerry B Altzman) wrote: >Today in the mail I received my *December* QST. (Note that it is only the >13th of November; there are yet two weeks left in the month.) > >Has anyone to date received their September, October, or November QEX's? Yes, I regret to say that we fell behind schedule. However, we are catching up. You should have received your September issue by now, or within the next few days at the latest (in North America, anyway). The October issue preview copies have come back to HQ from the printer, so those should be arriving in your mailboxes over the next couple of weeks. The November issue is at the printer and should be hitting mailboxes shortly after the October issue, and the December issue will go to the printer in early December for late December/early January delivery. Following issues will continue to creep back toward the normal schedule until things are back in order. I apologize for the inconvenience and the delays. We'll get it fixed. ------ Jon Bloom, KE3Z | jbloom@arrl.org Editor, QEX | American Radio Relay League | 225 Main St., Newington CT 06111 | From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:09 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!noc.tor.hookup.net!ve3ied!whome!gts!feline!gray From: gray@Acad.Humberc.On.Ca (Kelly Gray) Subject: Re: Rabbit ears -> 2m antenna Message-ID: Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Organization: Humber College Academic Computing Dept. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <48qp1b$cml@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 20:09:38 GMT Lines: 22 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94736 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17324 Benjamin Schultz KE3OM (benjamin@w3eax.umd.edu) wrote: : I have a salvaged TV antenna, with VHF and UHF twin-lead lead wires. Each : telescoping half extends 1 meter from the center of the antenna mount. I : would like to rig this antenna for 2m work. : Any suggestions? : -- : Benjamin Schultz, KE3OM <*> : Job-hunting to apply technology to business issues. : -- If you know someone who can assist, please email me! If the length of the 300 ohm twinlead is 1/4 wavelength, just connect the 50 ohm coax to the ends of the twinlead, it works fine. I am using one of these taped to a bookshelf in the middle of my apartment, and I have no problem hitting repeaters 20 miles away. ( I'm using 10 watts when on high power ) The 1/4 wavelength of twinlead acts as a matching transformer feeding the ends of a pair of dipoles. Essentially, the TV antenna works as a two element colinear array. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:10 1995 Date: 21 Nov 1995 09:23:40 EDT Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!nctuccca.edu.tw!news.Edu.TW!newsserver.jvnc.net!dccc.edu!krosis Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: krosis@dccc.edu (Alex Kiefer) Message-ID: <8169638268502@iss.dccc.edu> Organization: Delaware County Community College Subject: Radio info Lines: 7 does anyone out there know of any good books that might help with building a radio transmitter and other such projects.. if so please e-mail me thanx. Alex Kiefer From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.heurikon.com!uwvax!fullfeed!tricia!macline.com!user From: yuri@macline.com (Steve Yuroff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re(2): SCANNERS / 800 MHZ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 18:53:46 -0500 Organization: Mac Line BBS Lines: 41 Message-ID: <1709451.ensmtp@macline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: macline.msn.fullfeed.com X-Newsreader: ExpressNet/SMTP v1.1.5 ============= acubel@alfa.adinet.COM.UY (Alejandro Cubel) wrote: >Does anyone know if there are any scanner in the US market with 800mhz >band easy to mod ? >In my country they are no restriccions to receive cellular band. >I have a Kenwood TM 732 , but the step on 800 mhz dont match the standard in >CX. (30 khz). >Thanks 73 from >CX9BBL > To the best of my knowledge 800 MHz capable radios are no longer available in the US. In Canada, however, it's a different story. I'm not familiar with the 732, but if it's a base, consider buying a Radio Shack Pro-2006 if you can find one. -- Best regards, Bill Fischer @ Electronic Countermeasures Inc. ============= Bill's knowledge is close, but not exactly correct. Scanners that recieve or are very simply modified to recieve cellular frequencies cannot be sold in the U.S. (but possession is not restricted). Some makers took the route to block all 800 recieve on their recievers, but they were not required to block the whole 800 band, just the cellular range. Guess that was easier for them.(?) Canada does not forbid the cellular recieve, so try them or Javation in England, who sells Yupi & other wideband scanners with no blocks. 73, Yuri. KB8RFU -- ************************************************************************ Mac Line BBS: (608) 233-9487 - A FirstClass System in Madison, WI USA ************************************************************************ From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.wwa.com!news From: rttyman@wwa.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Read Ute Hunter Date: 23 Nov 1995 05:33:35 GMT Organization: WorldWide Access (tm) - Chicagoland Internet Services (http://www.wwa.com) Lines: 54 Message-ID: <49113f$k5n@kirin.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vh3-000.wwa.com X-Newsreader: SPRY News 3.03 (SPRY, Inc.) Want the latest utility station-related news that will give you insight into what you are hearing over the radio and satellite spectrum? Want to see lots of loggings from fellow ute monitors from around the world? Tired of reading similar loggings in national magazines that are up to six months old before they appear in print? Then you should subscribe to Ute Hunter. Ute Hunter is a monthly publication that began in November 1994. It is edited and published by a former columnist for a national magazine read by ute monitors such as you. Whether you have a liking for news about the military, aviation, satellites, space programs, marine radio stations, ships, numbers stations, digital data (such as RTTY) stations, Morse Code transmissions, diplomatic stations, radio beacons, etc., exclusive of amateur radio, you'll always find something of interest to you. Ute Hunter devotes more pages monthly to utility station news and loggings than do Monitoring Times, Popular Communications, and Shortwave Magazine COMBINED. And like those magazines, you're welcome to contribute your own news, views and loggings that will be enjoyed by fellow hobbyists from the person next door to one in the most desolate outpost on Earth. Ute Hunter is mailed by 1st-class mail to North American addresses and by airmail elsewhere. 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I'm eager to inform you. 73, rttyman@wwa.com From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.iii.net!dts From: dts@peanut.senie.com (Daniel Senie) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeaters masking tones Date: 25 Nov 1995 23:24:01 GMT Organization: Daniel Senie Consulting Lines: 43 Message-ID: <4988j4$sqs@news.iii.net> References: <47tucb$o78@gw.PacBell.COM> <48fdsl$nqk@brokaw.comm.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: peanut.iii.net In article , Jeff Stillinger wrote: ): }In article <47r7nf$4a@lambchop>, Ron Thompson wrote: ): }>I was recently experimenting with code squelch on some local ): }>repeaters. I found that ALL the repeaters I tried fail to ): }>transmit the tones. I thought code squelch would be great to ): }>facilitate quiet standby, but it's going to be pretty much ): }>useless if it doesn't work through repeaters. ): }> ): }>Does anyone know why this happens? Are there any ways around ): }>it? ): } ) )The reason this is happening is the contorller. Most repeaters are )using the ACC controler. This controler can choose not to TX the pl. )It filters the pl for a "cleaner audio". If it is a problem have the )control op turn on the tx pl. It's that simple. There are a lot of controller manufacturers out there. I would think it a stretch to say "most" repeaters run ACC. Certainly they have plenty of customers, but so do many other manufacturers. The feature of not passing DTMF is selectable on many controllers. I generally prefer to have repeaters set up this way. DTMF tones are often used as one of the methods of control of a repeater. If these tones were rebroadcast by the repeater, folks with tone decoders would have an easier time of figuring out the access codes to the repeater controller. Often repeater controllers also have an audio delay circuit, so the repeater can completely remove the tones from the outbound signal, and also can cleanly provide an audio beep rather than having a noisy kerchunk. It's somewhat annoying to hear people punching tones through repeaters anyway, so I guess I prefer controllers that don't pass the signalling. The DTMF squelch feature must be used with care, since when you must listen to the frequency to check to see if it's clear or not before using (if you're DTMF squelched, you won't hear the traffic on a frequency). -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Senie Internet: dan@senie.com, Daniel Senie Consulting n1jeb@senie.com http://www.senie.com Packet Radio: N1JEB@KA1SRD.MA From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ns1.win.net!compulinks.win.net!bounty_hunter Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <382@compulinks.win.net> Reply-To: bounty_hunter@compulinks.win.net (BOUNTY HUNTER) From: bounty_hunter@compulinks.win.net (BOUNTY HUNTER) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 06:09:00 GMT Subject: SALE! 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Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49233r$ke@news.icon.net> References: <48vn5a$f2g@umbra.unr.edu> <4908rk$ir4@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc123.icon.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) X-URL: news:4908rk$ir4@alterdial.UU.NET Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17288 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12758 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21662 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11715 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94635 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32001 rec.radio.amateur.space:5812 I used to be shocked when my private electronic mail was published. About as shocked as my love letters being printed in a book. I find there are no morals in America, and no self discipline. Only a scum would resort to publishing a private letter. I used to put a little line in my signature that said PRIVATE, but then the scum just erased that part. I'm glad you identified the scum who published your private mail. Said scum should be banished from the net. Write his postmaster. From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!crusher.ici.net!dialupS152 From: rflood@ici.net (Richard M. Flood) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Software for mapping CQ's Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 14:08:07 GMT Organization: The Internet Connection Lines: 9 Message-ID: <494jlh$ded@crusher.ici.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialups152.ici.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Can anyone reccomend mapping software that will place a dot and label on a world and US map. I was looking a MapLinx, but thought that someone form this group might have other reccomendations. I basically just want something that will label a map in the Windows Environment, radio control isnt necisary. Thanks in Advance -Rich From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Someone is playing me! Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:35:32 GMT Lines: 22 Message-ID: <4908jk$ir4@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48sbkj$i81@alterdial.UU.NET> <30b2b7b0.146772836@192.80.84.4> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: jbl@levin.mv.com jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) wrote: >In <48sbkj$i81@alterdial.UU.NET>, > Burt Fisher > wrote: >|3. They HELP me in any concern that my service provider may have >|that I am innocent because who can tell what I write and I do not. > >Anyone can tell immediately that those were forgeries. How? I did not write them so I knew but the address etc seemed legit. Of course the text was "not me" but how did you know? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Someone is playing me! Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:36:38 GMT Lines: 17 Message-ID: <4908lm$ir4@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <48sbkj$i81@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: ve7zvz@dowco.com ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) wrote: >Dont worry Burt I do not think that anyone would intentionally play with >you, not even your wife. Please do not judge my wife by yours. OK? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!news.umbc.edu!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!ki7mh From: ki7mh@delphi.com (L. Brichardi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: TS-50s Date: 22 Nov 1995 06:27:23 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 1 Message-ID: <9511220038591.The_Win-D.ki7mh@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1d.delphi.com X-To: L. Brichardi Does anyone have any mods for this thing besides the expanded xmit? From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!agate!spool.mu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Randy Williams <102051.2045@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Date: 23 Nov 1995 00:06:35 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <490dub$57e$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: <47jk69$1uk@anomaly.ideamation.com> While I got a chuckle out of the mind-game played at the electronics store I was also a bit saddened too. What ever happened to a good old fashioned "No thanks, I don't need any help at this time." Why does our society value bitterness and cruelty above compassion and politeness these days? Remember: That zit-faced kid just might be the next CEO of IBM/Microsoft/RCA, etc someday. If Bill Gates can, well... whatever, Randy N7CJE Key largo, FL From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuhou.aloha.net!oahu-45 From: maunez@aloha.net (The maunezes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Up and comming ham needs help! Date: Sun, 19 Nov 95 03:00:55 GMT Organization: Hawaii OnLine - Honolulu, HI Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48m6a2$3gc@nuhou.aloha.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: oahu-45.u.aloha.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #1 Hello I am an up and comming ham operator and i need help. I would like to know if there is a software out there that I can use to study for my Novice and Tech test. If you can help it would be very helpful for me! Thank you and just respond to my e-mail address. Thanks again! Charles Maunez From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!misc.twics.com!tanuki!naky From: naky@tanuki.twics.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: VEC INFO Needed Date: 25 Nov 95 12:58:42 JST Organization: TWICS [Tokyo Public Internet Access] Lines: 4 Message-ID: <1995Nov25.125842.1@tanuki.twics.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tanuki.twics.com Heard about phone patches and also need some info on how i can setup my vhf base with vhf HT so that I can make and receive phone calls with VHF HT (FT-11 Thanks From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:23 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!news.bc.net!lancelot.dowco.com!NewsWatcher!user From: ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) Subject: Re: VHF Contest Help Sender: news@dowco.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 19:37:42 GMT References: <48vtv4$2b04@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: 206.12.26.48 Organization: Mountain DX Club VA7SM Lines: 27 In article <48vtv4$2b04@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, QXBJ74A@prodigy.com (Marc Taylor) wrote: -> I am new to the Ham Radio world, and am interested in getting involved in -> the upcoming contest in January. I am not intending to win any awards, -> just get my feet wet. I would appreciate any advice, recommendations, -> and an answer to my basic question, "How do I call 'CQ' during such a -> contest?". -> -> Thanks for any advice -> -> Marc Taylor -> KC7JKF -> Ogden, UT CQ CQ CQ CONTEST THIS IS KILLOWATT CHARLIE SEVEN JULIET KILLOWAT FOXTROT, (INSERT YOUR GRID SQUARTE HERE) CHARLIE NANCY 89. My Grid is CN89. Learn it, use it, live it. Talk to you in January -- Scott Leaf VE7ZVZ ve7zvz@dowco.com Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada Mountain DX Club VA7SM - "To boldy VHF where no ham has VHFed before" From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: VHF Contest Help Date: Thu, 23 Nov 95 21:03:46 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 15 Message-ID: <817160626snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <48vtv4$2b04@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <491fq6$16hq@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article <491fq6$16hq@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de " > And since they are likely to call slightly off frequency, you have to tweak > the RIT at the same time as you copy as much of a callsign *correctly*. Is this a secret winning technique you know about or just the careless netting one might encounter in the heat of the contest? Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:25 1995 Message-ID: <366296@280.chatlink.com> From: Peawee@sys280.chatlink.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess Date: 22 Nov 1995 22:35:35 PST Subject: Waiting for first license after exam Lines: 10 DI>How much time typically passes between taking the exam and receiving DI>the license in the mail? I know that the government shutdown will DI>probably make the wait longer. I got mine withine 10 days. Good luck and enjoy the hobby. It's a lot of fun and can meet some nice people. 73's Gail N1UST s! From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.interport.net!usenet From: Michael Neidich Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WANTED Zenith TRANS-OCEANIC R7000-1 Date: 25 Nov 1995 12:53:17 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <4973jt$mjo@park.interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: neidich.port.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Want to buy mint condition R7000-1 complete. Mustn't have fine tuning backlash. Advise condition & price wanted. 73 from K2ENN NYC From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!iol!usenet From: Damian Commins Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: wanted;yaesu ft-2200 2m mods Date: 25 Nov 1995 22:57:04 GMT Organization: Ireland On-Line Lines: 1 Message-ID: <498700$j35@barnacle.iol.ie> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-007.galway.iol.ie i read Tim Skloss's mods for my ft-2200 but found 15 jumpers instead of 12.Four of them were in place-namely 0,2,5,9.How do i go from here to get my exten From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What does "Q5" mean? Date: 22 Nov 1995 16:32:29 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 13 Message-ID: <48vjat$6f7$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> References: <48t7cl$1kmr@ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> >I would also like to know what the meaning of "Q5" is. < "Q5" is essentially means "loud and clear". It is a shortened version of "QSA5 QRK5" which are operating signals for strength (QSA) and readability (QRK). 73, de Hans, K0HB -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim E.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What other think of K1OIK Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:57:53 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 23 Message-ID: <4992ss$5o3@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <80511402302@ccsnet.com> Reply-To: time@tir.com NNTP-Posting-Host: an4.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 k1oik@ccsnet.com wrote: >->Call removed below to protect my supporter from being attacked: >->id BBBJANEM ; Fri, 17 Nov 1995 17:25:12 -0500 >->Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 18:20:42 -0500 >->From: xxxxxx@aol.com >->To: k1oik@ccsnet.com >->Subject: Re: The idiot ham trade. >->Sir, >->I am afraid you are entirely too witty for this newsgroup; you will have to >->snip Cough, gag ! -- Tim (time@tir.com) Amateur radio: WB8OGM From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!Rezonet.net!news0.accent.net!usenet From: emdx@accent.net (Marc Dufour) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles,rec.puzzles.crosswords,rec.pyrotechnics,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap,rec.roller-coaster,rec.running,rec.scouting,rec.scuba,rec.skiing.alpine Subject: Re: What some think about sexy hams Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 02:36:38 GMT Organization: Is there really one? Lines: 27 Message-ID: <498k6u$5ee@news0.accent.net> References: <309FBFAE.6F6A@hawaii.edu> <47uhb8$dfq@odo.PEAK.ORG> <481qu5$imv@ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4825g6$k1h@alterdial.UU.NET> <487hjv$19c@mdsroc.com> <48be57$e6p@ornews.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-372.accent.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net rec.puzzles:52368 rec.puzzles.crosswords:4642 rec.pyrotechnics:37976 rec.radio.amateur.antenna:17322 rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc:12793 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21719 rec.radio.amateur.homebrew:11737 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94721 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32035 rec.radio.amateur.space:5822 rec.radio.cb:24644 rec.radio.noncomm:5015 rec.radio.scanner:41104 rec.radio.shortwave:66493 rec.radio.swap:51624 rec.roller-coaster:23316 rec.running:45726 rec.scouting:38019 rec.scuba:81118 rec.skiing.alpine:33729 ============================================================== dmwelch@ornews.intel.com (Don Welch) écrivit le - wrote on 14 Nov 1995 17:01:27 -0800: -------------------------------------------------------------- >jimc@mdsroc.com (Jim Clarke) writes: >>I've only been an amateur radio operator for 18 years and I would have to >(snip) >>Don't let the bad apples spoil the excitement that can be found in amateur >>radio, there is something there for everyone (wives/girlfriends too). >Speaking of HAM radios, could this group help me out? Every time I go and >dive with my radio set, the fuse blows. What's the trick here? It could have something to do with your set antenna's SWR. What does the S-meter says just before the fuse blows? -----------------Pour la République Française du Québec----------------- In a Republic, society should be like school, whose prime mission is to teach citizens how to judge for themselves by their own natural light. In a democracy, it is school that must look like society, and it's prime mission is solely to produce people adapted to the job market. Régis Debray in "Are you a democrat or a republican?" - Marc Dufour -- [\]ACUC 6 31874 & TDI -- http: will soon be relocated - From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!zib-berlin.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!w254zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!jekucfjc From: jekucfjc@w254zrz.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE (Jens Kurrat) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Who makes VCOs/PLLs for 430 MHz? Date: 22 Nov 1995 09:36:27 GMT Organization: TU Berlin Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <48uqur$7c0@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: w254zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de Does anybody know which company makes VCOs/PLLs that can operate at the 70cm band (430 MHz). I need to build a receiver that mixes the received RF down to the baseband signal. I don't want to use Mini Circuits' VCOs which draw too much current and require 12V VB. THANKS, Jens From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!dansi From: dansi@news.epix.net () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTB: Cheap packet for 14yr old. Date: 25 Nov 1995 22:09:18 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <49846e$f05@guava.epix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plum.epix.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Subject: WTB: Cheap packet for 14yr old. Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment Summary: Keywords: I am looking for a cheap packet tnc that will be compatable with my 286, yes a 286! Old, but usable. So, if anyone would like to donate =) ( I would be -* Most *- greatful even a 1200 would be fine. ) Or would like to sell one to me for a cheap price, please e-mail me. ( no flames ) My call is N3NMD, just so you know I'm not joking. I just spent my savings on a computer, yes this one. And my parents are not having the best of times money wise. P.S. I can repair computers, tv's, clean VCR's, and misc. for a price reduction. Looking forward to any replies -( no flames please )- Dansi@epix.net N3NMD From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!globe.indirect.com!indirect From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Yellow Sheets? Date: Tue, 21 Nov 95 20:48:11 GMT Organization: Ham Radio & More Show Lines: 20 Message-ID: <48te0c$53m@globe.indirect.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: s180.phxslip4.indirect.com X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Can somebody give me the address, phone number, e'mail, etc. for the Yellow Sheets Publications regarding ham equipment. Thanks a lot. 73, Len, KB7LPW Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@n7mrp.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on 7.435. Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio. Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From Unknown Sun Nov 26 04:55:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!fnnews.fnal.gov!fnalv1.fnal.gov!MURSO From: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov (MURSO@fnalv.fnal.gov) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Yellow Sheets? Date: 22 Nov 1995 19:46:52 GMT Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab Lines: 25 Message-ID: <48vunc$do5@fnnews.fnal.gov> References: <48te0c$53m@globe.indirect.com> Reply-To: murso@fnalv1.fnal.gov NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalv1.fnal.gov In article <48te0c$53m@globe.indirect.com>, lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) writes: >Can somebody give me the address, phone number, e'mail, etc. for the Yellow >Sheets Publications regarding ham equipment. >Thanks a lot. >73, >Len, KB7LPW > >Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com >P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@n7mrp.az.usa.na >Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 >Ham Radio & More Show info at: >http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html >The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, Sundays on the Talk >America Radio Network in over 62 cities. Check WWW page for list. >The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, Saturdays at noon ET (1700utc) on 12.160, and Mondays at 1000utc on 7.435. >Also, LIVE on C-band satellite....Spacenet 3, Transponder 9, 6.8 audio. >Support "WOG". Written only General!!! > > Ham Trader Yellow Sheets P.O.Box 15142 Seattle, WA 98115 $18 per year, $38 for two KB9KFE From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim E.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:06:06 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 20 Message-ID: <4993ca$5o3@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vukq$dli@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: time@tir.com NNTP-Posting-Host: an4.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 >->>In wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) >->>writes: >->>> >->>>First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an >->>>old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and >->>>insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played >->>>music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz >->>>instead of 27.something it was so bad. Some guy who IDed as "N2YEE" >->>>(who really knows if he was really that license holder) from Edison NJ >->>>said "a**hole", "crap", and similar things. Someone else IDed as >->>>snip Heck everyone knows that 75m is the "CB" band of ham radio but of course is second only to 2 meters... -- Tim (time@tir.com) Amateur radio: WB8OGM From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news3.digex.net!news1.digex.net!news.spaceworks.com!news.spaceworks.com!not-for-mail From: billhar@spaceworks.com (bill harris) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight. Yuck Date: 29 Nov 1995 23:57:35 -0500 Organization: SpaceWorks, Incorporated Lines: 11 Sender: news@news.spaceworks.com Message-ID: <49jdjv$of8@mars.spaceworks.com> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.spaceworks.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >First time in a while, I was tuning around the 80 meter band with an >old general coverage SW receiver, and heard some people arguing and >insulting and idle threats being tossed about. Even someone played >music for a minute or so. Had to check that I had tuned 3.88 MHz >instead of 27.something it was so bad. The reason this frequency sounded like CB is because the operators you heard were CBers. They are CBers who just happen to have an amateur license, but they are not hams. Hams don't act that way. Bill - K5MIL From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 26 Nov 1995 14:10:32 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <499sgo$fv0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <8057-292566402@inferno.com> The numbers speak for themselves---- Over 50% of all hams hold tickets *below* that of General. And according to the W5YI statistical analysis, less than 20% of No-Coders&Tech lites upgrade to General or above. The hobby has been dumbed down to it's lowest common denominator. It's over. The dying old men of the hobby will wither away, No-code HF will be a reality by 2000 --- and the farce of amateur radio and it's racist culture will be gone. Good Riddance. - mike wa4d -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 26 Nov 1995 22:59:46 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 28 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49bd3i$8e8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <499sgo$fv0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <499sgo$fv0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>, Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> writes: >The numbers speak for themselves---- > >The hobby has been dumbed down to it's lowest common denominator. A PERFECT EXAMPLE LICENSEE WA4D >It's over. The dying old men of the hobby will wither away, TAKING YOU WITH IT????? and the farce of amateur radio and >it's racist culture will be gone. > >Good Riddance. TO YOU MIKE..MOST OF KNOW OF YOU AND HAVE HEARD YOUR RACIST B.S. ON 40 METERS. WHAT'S YOUR STANDINGS WITH THE FCC TODAY.. > >- mike wa4dAWG > >-- >Mike Whatley MIKE YOUR A CLOWN. THERE HAVE BEEN AND STILL ARE SOME PERSONS HERE WHO ARE ANNOYING, BUT THERE PALE IN THE COMPARISION OF YOUR OUT AND OUT HATRED FOR EVERYTHING WHO ISN'T LIKE YOU. MAYBE YOUR CALL SHOULD BE W4KKK??? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 27 Nov 1995 01:01:15 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <49bk7b$3cr@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <499sgo$fv0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <49bd3i$8e8@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <49bd3i$8e8@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, KF2TI wrote: >A PERFECT EXAMPLE LICENSEE WA4D [Shouting deleted] Ever hear of a Caps-Lock key? MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!qni.com!gwatts From: Gary Watts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:59:52 -0600 Organization: Suba Communications Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qni.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> Mike-- Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? Pretty lame. Mike Whatley and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. Real Hams have Novice class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here soon enough.. Isnt that GREAT !!!!! Gary Watts de N0OXV From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:35 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 19:04:50 GMT Lines: 20 Sender: charles1@netcom19.netcom.com In article , Gary Watts wrote: > > > > Mike-- > > Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? > Pretty lame. > > Mike Whatley and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. > Real Hams have Novice class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really > matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here > soon enough.. Isnt that GREAT !!!!! >Gary Watts de N0OXV Not soon enough. KC5LWF at 10wpm CW and grudgingly reaching towards 13wpm. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 27 Nov 1995 22:17:50 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 30 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49ddee$5sq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap2.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) wrote: > >In article , >Gary Watts wrote: >> >> >> >> Mike-- >> >> Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? >> Pretty lame. >> >> Mike Whatley and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. >> Real Hams have Novice class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really >> matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here >> soon enough.. Isnt that GREAT !!!!! >>Gary Watts de N0OXV > >Not soon enough. KC5LWF at 10wpm CW and grudgingly reaching towards >13wpm. Be sure to let the ARRL know how you feel. If they hear from enough of us who are in favor of eliminating the Morse requirement, maybe they'll realize that they DO NOT speak for all amateurs with their tough pro-code stance. -Drew in Charlotte- KF4DDM From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:37 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!charles1 From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <49ddee$5sq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 01:38:20 GMT Lines: 34 Sender: charles1@netcom18.netcom.com In article <49ddee$5sq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) wrote: >> >>In article , >>Gary Watts wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike-- >>> >>> Tsk-Tsk. Go to hell?? Kinda tacky. And using feces as your analogy? >>> Pretty lame. >>> >>> Mike Whatley and the other Johnny come lately's aren't really hams. >>> Real Hams have Novice class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really > >>> matter because it's a dead hobby. No-Code HF tickets will be here >>> soon enough.. Isnt that GREAT !!!!! >>>Gary Watts de N0OXV >> >>Not soon enough. KC5LWF at 10wpm CW and grudgingly reaching towards >>13wpm. > >Be sure to let the ARRL know how you feel. If they hear from enough of >us who are in favor of eliminating the Morse requirement, maybe they'll >realize that they DO NOT speak for all amateurs with their tough pro-code >stance. Don't get me wrong, I do believe there should be effort involved in getting a liscense. Maybe 5wpm CW, and much more stringent and educational written tests. The current written tests don't really teach you much. CW is a dead language, just ask the Navy. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 28 Nov 1995 17:29:49 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 21 Message-ID: <49fgud$2pt@cis.clark.edu> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) wrote: > Greg-- > (Real > Hams have General class tickets or higher.) But it doesn't really > -- > Mike Whatley I think you should reconsider. Most of my friends who are hams have Tech Plus tickets, some have No-Code Tech tickets, and a couple have Advanced tickets. The only difference I've noticed is how much they know about all aspects of ham radio. None of my friends who hold Tech Plus tickets and lower are any less competent than my friends who are General class operators and higher. Stereotyping is so ugly. James A. Doty KI7EL From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.jsums.edu!despina.neptune.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 29 Nov 1995 00:15:21 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 5 Message-ID: <49g8mp$9dr@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-025.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Waaa! Waaa! More Affirmative Action Class Radio.. Steve, wa2nhz From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!simtel!news.kei.com!wang!usenet From: dbushong@mrst.com (Dave Bushong) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: 27 Nov 1995 02:56:29 GMT Organization: MRS Technology, Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <49b9cu$q97@elf5.wang.com> References: <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4931tn$n73$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: elf.wang.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 In article <4931tn$n73$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com>, 73057.2225@CompuServe.COM says... > >I'm always amused at these Johnny come lately's like this punk Drew >KF4DDM who equate passing a code test with intelligence. We >certainly don't need anymore losers like this fool KF4DDM in the >hobby. > Oh, kiss my ass. You guys spend so much time complaining that you are depriving yourselves of a lot of fun. Example: I worked the CQWW contest this weekend (CW) and I did not hear any of the following: "Personal here is..." "Bring it on back..." "What's your 20?" "You are a(n) [asshole | idiot | jerk | good buddy] ..." "How do I get this walkie talkie to listen to the po-lice..? Over?" "The reason we should [whatever] is because the politics is [whatever]" Instead, I heard a lot of one, two, and third-world stations, and many of them with hum on their transmissions (because they probably had to build it themselves, using gutted TV components, not that anyone there would throw away an old TV in the first place, which means that they probably had to find stuff in the junkyard to build their radio), calling CQ. Not a one of them bitched about how they had to learn CW. They were too busy having fun. You guys spend so much time complaining, you miss out on the fun. -- Dave Bushong dbushong@mrst.com MRS Technologies, Inc. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.suba.com!qni.com!gwatts From: Gary Watts Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:24:51 -0600 Organization: Suba Communications Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <492ph8$sv0@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4931tn$n73$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: qni.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4931tn$n73$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> I'm always amused at these Johnny come lately's like this punk Mike WA4D who equate passing a code test with intelligence. We certainly don't need anymore losers like this fool WA4D in the hobby. Gary de N0OXV From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.sandia.gov!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!usenet From: kc5egg@eule.lanl.gov Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Burt Fisher?! Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 16:00:45 MST Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49dggf$aq0@newshost.lanl.gov> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ggspc.lanl.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage Gary, You forgot the little grins on your sarcastic post. N0OXV licensed 8-6-91 WA4D licensed 11-6-81 Who exactly is the Johnnie Come Lately??? Confused in New Mexico From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!newsmaster From: <72527.01012@compuserve.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RE: 3.88 Mhz, CB, CODE TEST, DREW Date: 27 Nov 1995 14:52:28 GMT Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Lines: 28 Message-ID: <49cjbc$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ad21-014.compuserve.com Content-Type: text/plain Keywords: cb code 80 meters Content-length: 1065 X-Newsreader: AIR Mosaic (16-bit) version 1.00.198.07 Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> writes: >I'm always amused at these Johnny come lately's like this punk Drew >KF4DDM who equate passing a code test with intelligence. We >certainly don't need anymore losers like this fool KF4DDM in the >hobby. > >mike wa4d > >-- >Mike Whatley Hmmmmm.......Sounds like another misconception here. I think Drew was just being cynical about the perception of those that know the code are "better behaved" and "higher up" on the ham evolution scale. If Drew was really equating knowledge of Morse code with intelligence, then why would he say this after only passing a 5 WPM test himself?! Mike, it sounds like you are the one with the problem. Insulting people by saying that General class and lower are not "Real Hams" does not show me that an Extra class liscense holder is superior. Even a Novice operator can experience the thrill of real DX and they don't even own a microphone! They may even get a WAS certificate before an Extra class, so why are they not "Real Hams"? Steve, WA3RVT From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!ralph.vnet.net!katie.vnet.net!bradbury From: bradbury@katie.vnet.net (bradbury) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6 meter questions Date: 26 Nov 1995 23:06:59 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Lines: 4 Message-ID: <49aruj$2vg@ralph.vnet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: katie.vnet.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Has anybody used the new MFJ 6 meter cw/ssb rig? Is the limited coverage (50.1-50.3) enough? Also, can anyone recommend a good kit for a 6 meter cww/ssb transceiver? Tom/NU4G From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!lll-winken.llnl.gov!uwm.edu!chi-news.cic.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news-feed.mci.newscorp.com!news.delphi.com!rhiii From: rhiii@delphi.com (Richard Harrison) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6m OPEN 11/26 1610Z WI to SC Date: 28 Nov 1995 10:36:51 GMT Organization: Delphi Internet Services Corporation Lines: 5 Message-ID: <9511280430591.The_Win-D.rhiii@delphi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bos1e.delphi.com X-To: Richard Harrison Rick: Tks for opening a 6m chat channle here. QSX 50.62 packet also. de Richard/NT2Z FM18cp From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sparky.insinc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!unogate!news.intelenet.com!newshost.neptune.net!jds From: jds@neptune.net (Jeffrey D. Stai) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 6m question Date: 26 Nov 1995 00:22:40 GMT Organization: Neptune.Net (Neptune Consulting Group, Inc.) Lines: 41 Message-ID: <498c0g$og@neptune.neptune.net> References: <1854142133-951124015234@score1.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: neptune.neptune.net In ve7zvz@dowco.com (Scott Leaf) writes: >In article <1854142133-951124015234@score1.com>, >robert.k.mcclure@f564.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Robert K Mcclure) wrote: >-> After having read a lot of the posts about 6m no-code ham (possibility?), >-> I would like to pose the following question: with a 6m mobile rig and say, a >-> quarter wave antenna, along with say, 25 watts for grins, what would be the >-> optimum distance for an FM contact, without skip, and what it would it be >-> for SSB without skip. I have a Motorola Mitrek, 85W (close enough for discussion). I can work about 20 miles direct, more or less. About the same for SSB direct. This is on the flat, with no significant elevation between the stations. >An optimum contact would be from where you are in Houston to where I am in >Vancouver, but the problem is very few listen for FM DX, I dont know >anyone that does. We sit on 50.125 listening intently for USB. This last >summer, stations in our area worked Japan, all over North America, some >even managed Europe. Last summer, I worked 6 states on 52.525MHz FM (WY, MO!, OR, NV, NM, UT), so I think we can establish that folks 'listen' for FM DX on 6m. Frankly, though, I bet most FM DX contacts are folks who normally listen for local stations who suddenly find themselves talking several hundred miles! And 3 of those contacts were mobile on one end (WY & MO were mobile to my base; to OR I was mobile). I imagine there's more FM mobile than SSB. Also, at least here in Southern Calif., there are many hilltop 6m remote bases, controlled on 440. Those machines are likely to pick up more DX (by the way, I have talked to San Diego on a remote base on Mt Palomar; about 80 miles or so). I do listen on 52.525, but lately I listen more for 50.125 SSB now that I have the radio for it. If I hear you on 52.525 though, I'll answer! >6M isn't just for no codes, its just plain fun for all. You bet!-) 25W into a good antenna will be plenty fun. jeff stai, ke6knf jds@advradio.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!i-2000.com!usenet From: "H. Mark Nadel" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: <<< Amateur Radio Tower Problems >>> Date: 27 Nov 1995 03:17:25 GMT Organization: Amateur Radio Station NK2T Lines: 20 Message-ID: <49bak5$hqr@i-2000.com> References: <494u1q$3cq@i-2000.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hmn.dh.i-2000.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Pse note the correct address for R.A.D.I.O is listed at the bottom of this message. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - H. Mark Nadel Levittown, New York, USA hmn@I-2000.com Amateur Radio Station NK2T / AFA1FX - - - "Always Available Through Technology" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Look For R.A.D.I.O. inc. http://www.islandlink.com/radio/radio.htm From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:48 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!wanda.pond.com!kd3bj!kd3bj.ampr.org!robert From: robert@kd3bj.ampr.org (Robert E. Garland) Subject: Re: Amateur Exam Schedule Sender: usenet@kd3bj.ampr.org (News Posting Phantom User) Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.kd3bj.ampr.org Organization: The KD3BJ Usenet BBS Message-ID: References: <48t6qh$1ncs@ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 03:24:27 GMT Lines: 30 a313@Lehigh.EDU writes: >The RF Hill ARC gives amateur radio exams on the third Monday of each month >(except Feb. Exam given week after President's day). >Where : Indian Valley Public Library Community Room >Time: 6:30 pm >Bring your CSCE copy for credited elements or copy of your current >Amateur Radio License along with test fee. >The Indian Valley Public Library is located on Church Road (Pa Rte 113) >in Telford, Pa next to Landis Supermarket. Church Road a.k.a. Church Ave. is NOT PA 113. It is the extension of (ends at jct with PA 309) PA 152. If you follow PA 152 north, it ends at PA 309 and the library is a mile or two further along the way. Those of you who are using a map to locate things may need to know that the Indian Valley Public Library is in the old Telford Elementary School, near the intersection of Church and Main (a.k.a. county line road) in Telford. And a big thanks to Dick for posting this. Ya'all come take your exam, now, heah! > 73's Dick K8WHA > From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!nntp.crl.com!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Exam Schedule Date: 28 Nov 1995 22:00:52 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 36 Message-ID: <49g0qk$9q3@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <48t6qh$1ncs@ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Robert E. Garland wrote: > a313@Lehigh.EDU writes: > >> The RF Hill ARC gives amateur radio exams on the third >> Monday of each month(except Feb. Exam given week after >> President's day). > >> Where : Indian Valley Public Library Community Room [ edited ------------------] >> The Indian Valley Public Library is located on Church Road >> (Pa Rte 113) in Telford, Pa next to Landis Supermarket. > Church Road a.k.a. Church Ave. is NOT PA 113. It is the > extension of (ends at jct with PA 309) PA 152. If you follow > PA 152 north, it ends at PA 309 and the library is a mile or > two further along the way. > Those of you who are using a map to locate things may need to > know that the Indian Valley Public Library is in the old Telford > Elementary School, near the intersection of Church and Main > (a.k.a. county line road) in Telford. [ edited ------------------] I usually go to Pasadena or Burbank. It's a much shorter drive from Northeast Los Angeles (unless you know a REALLY GOOD short cut). ;-) 73, John KE6DTC -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!prodigy.com!usenet From: MFDX89A@prodigy.com (John Rouse sr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Another type of response that I get. Date: 26 Nov 1995 16:25:08 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Company 1-800-PRODIGY Lines: 4 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49a4d4$1igi@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> References: <8057-311526201@ccsnet.com> <498fb3$3l3@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: inugap6.news.prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Version 1.2 What kind of morons would continue to repost this sort of crap here? Boy, between WA4D and that idiot in 1-Land, this newsgroup suffers mightily with fools.... From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Another type of response that I get. Date: 26 Nov 1995 19:08:52 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 9 Message-ID: <49ae04$9i5$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: <49a4d4$1igi@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> John-John Must we only have posts that are in agreement with *your* world view? Ham radio is full of intolerant bigots --- don't add to it. -mike -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!mercury.galstar.com!star08329 From: pferris@galstar.com (Peter F. Ferris) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: AOR AR-2500 Power and Software Query Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:56:36 -0600 Organization: Laughing Pines Lines: 36 Distribution: world Message-ID: <9511261156.AA36726@star08329> References: Available Upon Request! Reply-To: pferris@galstar.com (Peter F. Ferris) NNTP-Posting-Host: star08329.galstar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Summary: Need hardware help with AOR AR-1500 Keywords: AOR, 2500, Mac, Power X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 2.2.1 Xref: news.epix.net alt.radio.scanner:25360 rec.radio.scanner:41126 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94764 Greetings, I have an AOR AR-2500. It's about 3 years old or so. It has developed a problem which will only get worse. I'm running it off of a Hewlett-Packard power supply (quite accurate and stable - 6236B Triple Output for the hardware nuts in the audience!). Problem is, lately, the 2500 has to be run not on 13.8 or 12VDC or anything close to that, but it won't come alive until I lower the juice to 11 V, then 10.5, then 10, now I'm down to 8 which seems to be NEAR the minimal border of coming up in the first place. Now, anything over 8 - 8.5VDC causes the unit to either "pop" the speaker and not scan or just kill the scanner (as if turned off). Obviously a power / reg type prob. It won't run mobile AT ALL! I have excellent soldering skills, etc; but it's been a LONG time since I had to troubleshoot to component level. Any clues? Is this a common prob for this model? All help, hints and kinks appreciated. Please e-mail "pferris@galstar.com". I sub to this group but only read it about every 2 weeks or so! Also: Anyone know of any Mac software that works with this beast? I'm pondering doing my own, but would rather see what's already available. Thanks, --Pete Peter F. Ferris pferris@galstar.com Win95 = Mac89 From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!mgate.arrl.org!not-for-mail From: mtracy@mgate.arrl.org (Mike Tracy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL Countries List Date: 27 Nov 1995 10:14:53 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 14 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49ckld$b2g@mgate.arrl.org> References: <60306.pcooper@fox.nstn.ns.ca> <49678n$1pke@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Dave Ennes (NEBJ09A@prodigy.com) wrote: : What is the phone number for the AARL BB? Dave, The phone number is 860-594-0306, but the BBS files also appear on our FTP site if you wish to retrieve them that way. Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------- American Radio Relay League, Inc. Tel: 1-860-594-0200 225 Main Street Fax: 1-860-594-0259 Newington, CT 06111 Email: mtracy@arrl.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!jwc From: jwc@col.hp.com (John Chapman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Autopatch Access? Date: 29 Nov 1995 21:09:47 GMT Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division Lines: 21 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <49ii6r$k80@nonews.col.hp.com> References: <49htqk$oj2@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mssjwc.col.hp.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] IMHO there is probably very few "open patches" around the country. To be truly open the patch would respond with any good phone number or 911 with out any access code. There are many errors in the repeater book. For two or more years the two local repeaters here showed "OPEN PATCH" in book when we had no intention of having same. We do have open repeaters but not open patches. We do encourage our members to bring up the patch for visitors. Many newer hams confuse "open repeater" with "open patch". Like I said many errors happen between here and the time it finally gets to the printer, when they print the Directory. John, N0KIC, Membership director Pikes Peak FM Assn From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!yama.mcc.ac.uk!warwick!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!soap.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet From: walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt Davidson) Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Bahamas DX-pedition Followup-To: uk.radio.amateur Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:12:48 GMT Organization: home in Tewkesbury Lines: 21 Message-ID: <49i7s7$bb5@soap.news.pipex.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: al043.du.pipex.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news.epix.net uk.radio.amateur:9392 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94889 From 2 to 10 December, Meg (N2NQI), Dave (WG3I), Walt (G3NYY) and Tim (G4VXE) will once again be portable /C6A from New Providence Island (NA-001) in the Bahamas, with activity on all bands - mainly on CW and some RTTY. In response to requests, we intend to concentrate on the WARC bands this year as many people have said they still need C6A on these bands. However there will be plenty of activity on other bands too! QSL for WG3I/C6A via G3AUA, via home calls for the others (direct or via bureau). Further details can be found on the Squarebashers' Expedition Group WWW page, http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/timkirby 73 de G3NYY -- Walt Davidson E-mail: walt@servelan.co.uk 100523.1414@compuserve.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:56 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Bomb threat From: clint.bradford@woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wwswinc!clint.bradford Distribution: world Message-ID: <93.14074.7585.0NFBB94E@woodybbs.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:55:00 -0500 Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc. - 516-736-6662 Lines: 15 Subject: Bomb threat >>I received the following bomb threat: Burt - you are solely responsible for educating scores of telecomputerists. . .they have discovered their "TWIT" mechanisms in their offline mail readers, and have acted appropriately. You're the best thing that's happened for the Registration of Shareware Offline Mail Readers in quite a while. clint.bradford@atdbbs.com --- * TLX v4.00 * The worst thing about censorship is ######## ţ wcECHO 4.1 ÷ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ţ Mira Loma, CA ţ 909-681-6221 From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!wizard.pn.com!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pacbell.com!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: IQC109@uriacc.uri.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Bondwell B310V Laptop - need manual Date: 26 Nov 95 14:49:26 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 6 Message-ID: <199511261449.GAA28059@UCSD.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu I recently bought a neat 286 laptop to use for amateur radio. It is the Bondwell B310V. Does anyone have the manual to this? I would gladly pay your copy and mailing costs for a copy. Please respond by E-mail. address: IQC109@URIACC.URI.EDU Thanks....Ken..KB1AWV From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Burt will speak at your club Date: 28 Nov 1995 00:52:29 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <49dmgd$a12@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) I offer my services to your club as a speaker who will wake the dead and contesters. What I require is: 1. All expenses paid. 2. A token gift. 3. Bullet proof vest. My topics will be any you choose related to the makeup of the ham psyche. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:58 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!newshost.comco.com!news.tamu.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!nntp.crl.com!usenet From: danb@a.crl.com (Dan Brown) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Burt will speak at your club Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 19:12:10 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access Lines: 19 Message-ID: <49ibe2$rav@nntp.crl.com> References: <49dmgd$a12@alterdial.UU.NET> <49hr5j$1j0@mgate.arrl.org> Reply-To: danb@a.crl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: a102013.sfo2.as.crl.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Ed Hare wrote: >Burt Fisher wrote: >>1. All expenses paid. >>2. A token gift. >>3. Bullet proof vest. >Will you settle for two out of three? :-) Hey, let him have the bullet-proof vest. It won't help with a head shot anyway... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS danb@a.crl.com, NOT danb@crl.com Don't tread on me. E-Mail published at my discretion. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:18:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Burt will speak at your club Date: 29 Nov 1995 18:22:49 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 11 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49iq09$n7b@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <49hr5j$1j0@mgate.arrl.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article Burt writes: >>1. All expenses paid. >>2. A token gift. If he travels to NYC (I said IF!!!) you could give him a subway token valued at a buck fifty...then you kill two birds with one stone... a gift token get it ha ha ha he he hi hi hi i'm just too funny... From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com!sernews.raleigh.ibm.com!news@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com From: michaelc@mikeport.raleigh.ibm.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Cable Routing to Outside Date: 30 Nov 1995 14:04:49 GMT Organization: ISSC Southeast Region Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49kdm1$8u3@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> Reply-To: kb4lfh@vnet.ibm.com NNTP-Posting-Host: mikeport.raleigh.ibm.com X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.02 Does anyone have any good ideas about getting cables from the inside to the outside? I would like to hear from anyone that has methods of doing this WITHOUT major/visible holes in the wall or floor. I have access to a window if that helps. ANY AND ALL IDEAS WELCOME! 73, de KB4LFH Michael Crowder kb4lfh@vnet.ibm.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!nott!crc-news.doc.ca!usenet From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 27 Nov 1995 18:47:43 GMT Organization: Industry Canada Lines: 41 Message-ID: <49d14f$5gt@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vqm1$q86@govonca3.gov.on.ca> <497suj$mne@news1.sunbelt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cummings.jim.dgrr000.ic.gc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: flanders@znet.groupz.net flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) wrote: >Dave Crosby VE3VSM wrote: > >>ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) wrote: > >>>I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days >>>in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the >>>need for a supplemental license? > >>Yes you can. Canada and the USA have a standing reciprocal operating agreement. >>Bring a copy of your FCC license and everything should be OK. > >Does one notify the Canadian radio authorities? Does one get a temp V? >call? Does one use his/her USA call? How does this all work? We plan >to tour western Canada and Alaska next summer with 2m FM in car. I >hadn't planned to use it in Canada, but maybe I can do so without any >hassle?? > >W4UKU Jerry F. > You will not have any problems operating in Canada. Just keep your FCC licence with you. With respect to identifying, while in Canada, you identify with your FCC-issued callsign, followed by "portable" and the appropriate prefix for the Canadian callsign district, i.e. if you were in British Columbia, you would identify as W4UKU portable VE7. If you wish, write to Industry Canada and get a copy of Radiocommunication Information Circular 25 (RIC 25) which contains all the rules and regulations for operating amateur radio in Canada. I can assure you that they are not as volumnous as the U.S. version. Have fun while you are up here in Canada. 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!nntp.coast.net!simtel!torn!nott!crc-news.doc.ca!usenet From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 28 Nov 1995 19:23:07 GMT Organization: Industry Canada Lines: 24 Message-ID: <49fnis$63j@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vqm1$q86@govonca3.gov.on.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: cummings.jim.dgrr000.ic.gc.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Dave Crosby VE3VSM wrote: >ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) wrote: > >>I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days >>in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the >>need for a supplemental license? > >Yes you can. Canada and the USA have a standing reciprocal operating agreement. >Bring a copy of your FCC license and everything should be OK. > I can't resist... If the agreement was sitting, would there be any difference? >73 de Dave >crosbyd@gov.on.ca >VE3VSM @ VA3VSM.#CON.ON.CAN.NA > 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:03 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!bt!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!zephyr!ia.mks.com!opentext.com!mars.opentext.com!not-for-mail From: richw@opentext.com (Rich Wales) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 28 Nov 1995 19:56:32 -0500 Organization: Opinions expressed in this posting are mine alone Lines: 29 Sender: richw@mars.opentext.com Message-ID: <49gb40$4ab@mars.opentext.com> References: <1995Nov22.044250.17933@lafn.org> <48vqm1$q86@govonca3.gov.on.ca> <497suj$mne@news1.sunbelt.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mars.opentext.com flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) wrote: Does one notify the Canadian radio authorities? Does one get a temp V? call? Does one use his/her USA call? You don't have to notify Canadian radio authorities. You don't get a temporary VE call. You just use your US call, followed by "mobile" or "portable" (or a slash if using CW) and the Canadian prefix correspond- ing to the province or territory where you happen to be at the time. Technically, you can do this only if your are a US citizen =and= a US resident. However, when I immigrated to Canada from the US in late 1992, the Canadian radio authorities told me it was OK for me to use my US ham license until I got a Canadian license (even though I was no longer a US resident) -- so for the first few months I was here, I signed as WA6SGA/VE3. We plan to tour western Canada and Alaska next summer with 2m FM in car. I hadn't planned to use it in Canada, but maybe I can do so without any hassle?? No problem. Just make sure you bring your US ham license with you (a photocopy will suffice, I believe). The relevant Canadian call sign prefixes for your trip, BTW, would be VE7 for British Columbia, VE6 for Alberta, and VY1 for the Yukon Territory. Rich Wales Kitchener, Ontario, Canada (originally from California, USA) http://home.opentext.com/~richw/ VE3HKZ / WA6SGA From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:04 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!jaring.my!genes!wired From: wired@genes.pl.my (Eugene Kang) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Message-ID: <817632578.21455snx@genes.pl.my> References: <49fnis$63j@crc-news.doc.ca> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 08:09:38 GMT Organization: My_Organisation Lines: 17 In article <49fnis$63j@crc-news.doc.ca> jcumming@clark.dgim.doc.ca writes: > >Dave Crosby VE3VSM wrote: >>ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) wrote: >> >>>I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days >>>in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the >>>need for a supplemental license? >> >>Yes you can. Canada and the USA have a standing reciprocal operating> agreement. >>Bring a copy of your FCC license and everything should be OK. >> > >I can't resist... If the agreement was sitting, would there be any difference?> Yep. The agreement wouldn't be standing. :) From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca!linville From: linville@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 29 Nov 1995 20:32:38 GMT Organization: Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 8 Message-ID: <49ig16$nag@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <49fnis$63j@crc-news.doc.ca> <817632578.21455snx@genes.pl.my> NNTP-Posting-Host: fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.3] Eugene Kang (wired@genes.pl.my) wrote: : > : >I can't resist... If the agreement was sitting, would there be any difference?> : Yep. The agreement wouldn't be standing. :) From a digital POV, there would be no difference. If the agreement was lying down, I supose one could argue that it a) dead, b) resting or c) comotose, but would it be in effect? Or just ineffective? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!wizard.pn.com!ci-pioneer!panda!jerry.flanders From: jerry.flanders@panda.org (JERRY FLANDERS) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Message-ID: <8B5A38B.04B7000003.uuout@panda.org> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 15:07:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: PandA's Den BBS, Danvers, MA, USA (508) 750-0250 panda.org Reply-To: jerry.flanders@panda.org (JERRY FLANDERS) X-Newsreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Lines: 31 MSGID: mid__497suj$mne@news1.sunbelt.net cd270001 REPLY: mid__48vqm1$q86@govonca3.gov.on.ca c7240001 REPLYTO 1:330/317 UUCP REPLYADDR flanders@znet.groupz.net PID GIGO+ sn 395 at panda vsn 0.99.950801 From: flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access Dave Crosby VE3VSM wrote: >ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) wrote: >>I plan to visit the Toronto area for a few days >>in January. Can I use my 2-meter HT without the >>need for a supplemental license? >Yes you can. Canada and the USA have a standing reciprocal operating agreement. >Bring a copy of your FCC license and everything should be OK. Does one notify the Canadian radio authorities? Does one get a temp V? call? Does one use his/her USA call? How does this all work? We plan to tour western Canada and Alaska next summer with 2m FM in car. I hadn't planned to use it in Canada, but maybe I can do so without any hassle?? W4UKU Jerry F. --- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!interaccess!d137.nb.interaccess.com!bigkid From: bigkid@interaccess.com (big kid) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Contesting Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 22:35:02 -0600 Organization: InterAccess,Chicagoland's Full Service Internet Provider Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: d137.nb.interaccess.com X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] I just finished the DX CW contest this weekend. I worked it with 100 watts and a multi band dipole and had a ball. Is this the right place to start a thread on contsting, or is there a more appropriate news group for that? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.magicnet.net!news.supernet.net!news.cais.net!simtel!torn!govonca3!40217154 From: barsta1@epo.gov.on.ca (Are Barstad) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: 28 Nov 1995 03:10:31 GMT Organization: Ministry of the Solicitor General & Correctional Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49duj7$17u@govonca3.gov.on.ca> References: <49dm16$a12@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.140.217.154 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 Burt Fisher wrote: >What excitement, a talk about contesting. Thanks for finally supporting something amateur-radio related Burt! And I who for the longest time thought you were nothing but a waste of skin. I guess you proved me wrong. 73 and happy contesting! VA3ARE - Are Barstad From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!news.icubed.com!news.erie.net!news From: chris robson@erie.net (Chris Robson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 04:07:28 GMT Organization: The Robson Company Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49e1u0$9ac_003@news.erie.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: boris.erie.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 In article , bigkid@interaccess.com (big kid) wrote: >I just finished the DX CW contest this weekend. I worked it with 100 watts >and a multi band dipole and had a ball. Is this the right place to start a >thread on contsting, or is there a more appropriate news group for that? Any place is a good place for a contest, I can't think of anything for fun than the the sport of Ham Radio Contesting. We are the marathoners of Radio!! Chris KB3A crobson@moose.erie.net From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.is.net!news1.i1.net!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: 29 Nov 1995 01:33:01 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <49gd8d$96r@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <49e1u0$9ac_003@news.erie.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) chris robson@erie.net (Chris Robson) wrote: > >Any place is a good place for a contest, I can't think of anything for fun >than the the sport of Ham Radio Contesting. We are the marathoners of Radio!! Ham radio and sports do not in any way go together. Ham radio and boring or sit on ass, now they go together. You think contesting is fun. You must be the life of the party. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd!hp-cv!reuter.cse.ogi.edu!news.ogitel.net!seikotsi.com!usenet From: jkaplan@seikotsi.com (KG7FU) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 18:47:44 GMT Organization: Seiko Communications Systems, Inc. Lines: 38 Message-ID: <49i9rh$5f7@news1.seikotsi.com> References: <49dm16$a12@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: kaplan.seikotsi.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Burt Fisher wrote: >bigkid@interaccess.com (big kid) wrote: >>I just finished the DX CW contest this weekend. I worked it with 100 watts >>and a multi band dipole and had a ball. Is this the right place to start a >>thread on contsting, or is there a more appropriate news group for that? >What excitement, a talk about contesting. >This is the right place, few here have no life thus mindless contesting >is made to go here. > >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com | >#======================================================================# What's the matter Burton? Can't you work 100 countries from MA? Or is it that the DX doesn't want to talk to YOU? You must be one of K1MAN's little buddies, soured on everything and everyone from some minor childhood trauma. Mother doesn't breast feed you anymore? Got a good case of Occularectalitis, seems to me. If they've run you off the 2m repeaters, packet and the 75m foul mouth nets, why don't you try building some microwave or TV gear? You claim to be a teacher. Can you teach anything other than H & D? Better yet, why don't you sell your Extra Class License to some new no-code Tech who could benefit from what you find so contemptuous? "YOU kill what YOU fear and YOU fear what YOU don't understand" jkaplan@seikotsi.com kg7fu@aol.com kg7fu@kb7ogd.or.usa.noam From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.eznet.net!news.enterprise.net!btnet!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!in2p3.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!news.cyberstore.ca!van-bc!unixg.ubc.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!news.sas.ab.ca!fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca!linville From: linville@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: 29 Nov 1995 20:28:20 GMT Organization: Edmonton Freenet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Lines: 16 Message-ID: <49ifp4$nag@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <49gd7n$96r@alterdial.UU.NET> <49huc4$avu$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2.3] Hans Brakob (71111.260@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : Burt said: "Ham radio and sports do not in any way go together" : In many countries the term "RadioSport" is used to describe radio : contesting, and it has official standing in amateur sports. "Fox : hunts" are particularly popular. During the recent "Friendship Games" : event, teams of top radio contesters, along with other sportsmen and : sportswomen from around the world were gathered in the Seattle area : to compete in international grade competition. A similar event is : planned for next year. I quite agree with your statement. However, it is unlikely a logical, balanced statement (on any topic) would meet with much approval from Burt. Why does he remain a ham if he is against so much of this hobby? VE6BEQ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!govonca3!40217154 From: barsta1@epo.gov.on.ca (Are Barstad) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: 30 Nov 1995 00:57:44 GMT Organization: Ministry of the Solicitor General & Correctional Services Lines: 33 Message-ID: <49ivi8$a6a@govonca3.gov.on.ca> References: <49e1u0$9ac_003@news.erie.net> <49gd8d$96r@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.140.217.154 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <49gd8d$96r@alterdial.UU.NET>, Burt Fisher wrote: >Ham radio and boring or sit on ***, now they go together. >You think contesting is fun. >You must be the life of the party. What do YOU think is fun and exiting Burt. Why don't you share your secret to happiness and success with us so we can be better people... yeah, just like you! Don't let me down. I'm eager to find out what's boring and what's exiting. I'm sure you don't mind sharing it with me - being a teacher and all. I'll bet you're a good one too! See, I'm an active and enthusiastic Contester, DX'er, rag-chewer, tower climber, fisher man, hunter and much more. I enjoy it too, or I wouldn't be doing it. Please let me know which of these 'topics' are boring and which are exiting so I can change my life style and be just like you. Add or subtract a few items as you go too if you like. P.S I'm a CW and radio theory instructor as well. Is that better or worse than "Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics"? Show me the way! Show me the policy of life! I need to know. I can't think for myself. I'm open for all suggestions. I don't wish to change my name to Burt Fisher though, but only if that's ok by you. 73, (oopps!, can I use 73 here or is that boring? Let me know!) Thanks in advance VA3ARE - Are Barstad "Never complain unless you can offer a solution!" From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!okc103.icon.net!ssampson From: ssampson@icon.net (S. Sampson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW Military Training Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:04:13 Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <48qdbj$ahi@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <1995Nov21.052712.15415@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: okc103.icon.net X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev A] gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: >In article bob93@delphi.com writes: >>I was one of the real motivated ones, so I got to go to Fort Gordon, where >>before I even saw a rtty shack, I was copying more code on a 'mill'. After >>succeeding at that, and the rest of 05C school, what did I get? >> >>A PRC25, and later a PRC77 radio on my back, an M14 rifle and a chance to >>talk long walks in the hot sun, accompanied by some of the finest men >>America was willing to sacrifice, in a place called the Iron Triangle. >Well, look at it this way, Bob, at least they let you carry a real >rifle instead of the Mattel toy. So maybe radio school was worth >something after all. Or maybe they figured that if you were dumb >enough to carry that heavy pig of a radio they could saddle you with >a heavy rifle too. Take your pick. I had an Air Force room mate at Kingsley Field who came back from a one year all expense tour to Asia. He was a "switchboard operator." Yea, they plugged and routed calls. When he got to Saigon they assigned him to an Army unit as a radioman. I asked him what kind of training he got, and he just looked at me funny. I guess you just squeeze the pickle and talk :-) I have a good friend who joined the Navy so he wouldn't get drafted into the Army. He figured he'd get a big ship and spend his 4 years at sea. You guessed it, he was assigned to the Mekong Delta as a UH-1 door gunner. He was lucky. He lasted 6 months before getting hit in the butt. It was a lot of hospitals and therapy, but he did get back the use of his legs. But it is ironic how you plan real hard to avoid something, only to get that something anyway, but even worse! --- Not that this has anything to do with CW... From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.crosslink.net!en.com!usenet From: Mike Lawrence Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Cw tutor Date: 27 Nov 1995 21:34:41 GMT Organization: Exchange Network Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49dath$95v@antares.en.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-44.en.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Anyone know of a good shareware code tutor for the computer and where I could find it? Thanks Scott KC8BGB please email to Lawrence@en.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: dxtreme@ix.netcom.com (Bob Raymond) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System V2.0 Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:35:49 GMT Organization: DXtreme Software Lines: 17 Message-ID: <49g6cl$se9@ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-nas-nh1-09.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Nov 28 3:35:49 PM PST 1995 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6 DXtreme Amateur Radio Station Log System(TM) Version 2.0 Designed for HF DXers, this affordable logging program lets you maintain a database of your contacts and track the DXCC performance of your station. DXtreme(TM) features attractive, easy-to-use screens, and a full range of inquiries and reports. PC/AT-compatibles, MS-DOS 5.0+. Only $29.95 plus $3.00 shipping in NA. Write for data sheet: DXtreme Software 26 Langholm Drive, Nashua, NH 03062 Internet: dxtreme@ix.netcom.com Thanks and 73, Bob Raymond, NE1I From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!moritz From: moritz@ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: exploding battery Date: 26 Nov 1995 10:34:54 GMT Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Lines: 1 Message-ID: <499fse$1ol2@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <497vup$59v@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ipers1.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de How are *we* supposed to know who manufactured *your* car battery? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: ed_lopez@ix.netcom.com (Edward Lopez ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: exploding battery Date: 25 Nov 1995 20:56:57 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 9 Message-ID: <497vup$59v@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pit2-20.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Nov 25 12:56:57 PM PST 1995 I am interested in information about what might cause a 12 volt lead-acid car/truck battery to explode. The battery is labeled as a "Power Trust 60" and was the old design where the user should add water. The battery exploded when the truck engine was off, and it was not being jumped. The truck was parked, and the occupant would turn the engine on about once every twenty minutes or so to warm up the passenger compartment. The battery exploded several seconds after the hood was raised. Who manufactured the battery and why did it explode? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet From: "Charles Jack Hawley Jr." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: exploding battery Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 08:53:25 -0800 Organization: University of Illinois, Urbana Lines: 32 Message-ID: <30B89B85.696D@aries.scs.uiuc.edu> References: <497vup$59v@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: antwerp-15.slip.uiuc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b2a (Windows; I; 16bit) To: Edward Lopez Edward Lopez wrote: > > I am interested in information about what might cause a 12 volt > lead-acid car/truck battery to explode. The battery is labeled as a > "Power Trust 60" and was the old design where the user should add > water. The battery exploded when the truck engine was off, and it was > not being jumped. The truck was parked, and the occupant would turn > the engine on about once every twenty minutes or so to warm up the > passenger compartment. The battery exploded several seconds after the > hood was raised. Who manufactured the battery and why did it explode? Most likly the battery developed an open circuit inside. When it was jostled by the opening of the hood, the circuit was made causing a spark inside the battery ignition the explosive combination of the oxygen and hydrogen gasses inside the top of the battery. This is a very dangerous situation and has resulted in many injuries to persons leaning over the battery while jiggling the posts of a non-functioning battery. ALWAYS throw an old rug or blanket over a battery before disturbing it when the senario unfolds where a battery goes from functioning to total failure. I have a friend W9NHM, Howard in Park Forest, Illinois who is an expert (retired electro chemist) on this subject. I think that he would be one to talk to. He is usually on 3.875 MHz in the afternoon if you are within 2 - 4 hundred miles. -- Charles Jack Hawley Jr. Amateur Radio KE9UW (A.K.A. 'Chuck' in Ham Radio) BMW K100RS, BMWMOA #224 (A.K.A. 'Jack' in Motorcycles) hawley@aries.scs.uiuc.edu Sr. Research Engineer Emeritus Univ of Ill, Urbana-Champaign From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: exploding battery Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:00:59 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 21 Message-ID: <499gu9$6n0@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <497vup$59v@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an9.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 ed_lopez@ix.netcom.com (Edward Lopez ) wrote: >I am interested in information about what might cause a 12 volt >lead-acid car/truck battery to explode. The battery is labeled as a >"Power Trust 60" and was the old design where the user should add >water. The battery exploded when the truck engine was off, and it was >not being jumped. The truck was parked, and the occupant would turn >the engine on about once every twenty minutes or so to warm up the >passenger compartment. The battery exploded several seconds after the >hood was raised. Who manufactured the battery and why did it explode? More than likely it was hydrogen escaping from the battery that ignited and caused the battery to explode, did anyone do something real obvious like strike a match or lighter for a peek under the hood ??? -- garyn@tir.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: n2wks@aol.com (N2WKS) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Extra is easier than Advanced Date: 27 Nov 1995 07:42:45 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 5 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49cbo5$h05@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <48vfcq$6ds@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: n2wks@aol.com (N2WKS) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com That's only true if you can handle the 20wpm cw Zev N2WKS Still and Advanced From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news1.sunbelt.net!usenet From: flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Extra is easier than Advanced Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:55:48 GMT Organization: SunBelt.Net INTERNET Access Lines: 15 Message-ID: <49g0eb$i63@news1.sunbelt.net> References: <48vfcq$6ds@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <49cbo5$h05@newsbf02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: async3.groupz.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 n2wks@aol.com (N2WKS) wrote: >That's only true if you can handle the 20wpm cw I have seen several postings here in which people seem to agree that the Extra exam is easier than the Advanced exam. Nobody seems to realize that the Advanced is a pre-requisite for the Extra!. I mean, whether you realize it, or not, To go from (for example) General to Extra you take BOTH the Advanced test as well as the Extra test, whereas to go from General to Advanced you take only the Advanced exam. Jerry F. W4UKU From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!news From: burke_br@adcae1.comm.mot.com (Bruce Burke) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Extra is easier than Advanced Date: 29 Nov 1995 13:15:58 GMT Organization: Motorola Inc Lines: 26 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49hmee$d14@brokaw.comm.mot.com> References: <49g0eb$i63@news1.sunbelt.net> Reply-To: burke_br@adcae1.comm.mot.com NNTP-Posting-Host: md20.comm.mot.com In article i63@news1.sunbelt.net, flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) writes: }n2wks@aol.com (N2WKS) wrote: } }>That's only true if you can handle the 20wpm cw } }I have seen several postings here in which people seem to agree that }the Extra exam is easier than the Advanced exam. Nobody seems to }realize that the Advanced is a pre-requisite for the Extra!. I mean, }whether you realize it, or not, To go from (for example) General to }Extra you take BOTH the Advanced test as well as the Extra test, }whereas to go from General to Advanced you take only the Advanced }exam. } }Jerry F. W4UKU } } You can add me to that list. I found the General was the hardest of all the tests, getting progressively easier on the way up. Each had they're gotchas though. 73, Bruce, WB4YUC, el YUCCO. . . From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.eas.asu.edu!news.asu.edu!aztec.asu.edu!georgie From: georgie@aztec.asu.edu (GEORGE R. COONEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FasTalk 1200E modem Date: 28 Nov 1995 21:29:28 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Lines: 6 Message-ID: <49fuvo$530@news.asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: aztec.asu.edu Would someone please tell me what the power requirement for this modem is? Also the polarity of the center conductor of the power connector. It is made by Universal Data Systems. Thanks -- Growing old isn't for Sissies. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nwnews.wa.com!nwfocus.wa.com!mdisea!mothost!lmpsbbs!NewsWatcher!user From: CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FasTalk 1200E modem Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 10:36:52 -0500 Organization: Mot RNSG - Private Data Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <49fuvo$530@news.asu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 145.39.1.10 In article <49fuvo$530@news.asu.edu>, georgie@aztec.asu.edu (GEORGE R. COONEY) wrote: > Would someone please tell me what the power requirement for this > modem is? Also the polarity of the center conductor of the power > connector. It is made by Universal Data Systems. Thanks > -- > Growing old isn't for Sissies. I just checked a FasTalk 1200 on an old Mac Plus around the corner. The factory supplied "wall wart" is rated 9 VAC at 600 ma. Polarity is not an issue. Hope this helps you out. -- Karl Beckman, P.E. < If our English language is so > Motorola Pvt Data Systems < precise, why do you drive on the > Schaumburg, IL / Parma, OH < parkway and park on the driveway? > (708) 576-0992 / (216) 265-2092 ** Schaumburg area code changes from 708 to 847 on January 20, 1996! ** ** Opinions expressed here do not represent the views of Motorola Inc. ** -- By sending unsolicited commercially-oriented e-mail to this address, the sender agrees to pay a $100 fee to the recipient for proofreading services. -- Amateur radio WA8NVW NavyMARS NNN0VBH @ NOGBN.NOASI From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:26 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!seds!chrisl From: chrisl@SEDS.LPL.Arizona.EDU (Chris Lewicki) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC has gone home Date: 26 Nov 1995 04:36:32 GMT Organization: University of Arizona SEDS Lines: 11 Message-ID: <498qsg$h02@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <48l9ut$6g@dsm6.dsmnet.com> <4988e6$k80$3@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: seds.lpl.arizona.edu Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : Who gives a shit if the FCC is closed. There are many policy makers : that believe the Commission should be eliminated. : The majority of tickets being issued are to new licensee's below : General Class. In other words, they ain't even hams. And again, a big "fuck you" to Mr. Whately. Please see my previous (less direct) post 'Re: FCC Shutdown' -Chris From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:27 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC has gone home Date: 26 Nov 1995 12:08:38 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <49a6um$2fs@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <48l9ut$6g@dsm6.dsmnet.com> <4988e6$k80$3@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> <498qsg$h02@news.ccit.arizona.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <498qsg$h02@news.ccit.arizona.edu>, Chris Lewicki wrote: >: The majority of tickets being issued are to new licensee's below >: General Class. In other words, they ain't even hams. > >And again, a big "fuck you" to Mr. Whately. Please see my previous (less >direct) post 'Re: FCC Shutdown' Well, you've impressed me. You're a real ham. An asset to the hobby, no doubt from your excellent command of the English language. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!noao!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!seds!chrisl From: chrisl@SEDS.LPL.Arizona.EDU (Chris Lewicki) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 26 Nov 1995 04:34:37 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Lines: 34 Message-ID: <498qot$h02@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <4988iv$k80$4@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: seds.lpl.arizona.edu Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a : ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the : No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. : Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need : anymore pseudo-hams. : Mike Whatley Wow! What a pompous ass! I just got my tech license (and I too am waiting for my license) and I take extreme offense at this comment. While studying for my tech license exam, I took note of the following from the FCC rules for the amateur service (Section 97.1) (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications. I think that even a lowly novice or tech could contribute to this purpose. I do plan on taking my general class exam in January, however, I believe that the novice and tech licenses are an important stepping stone. Without practice, one can never get good at anything, and this applies to ham radio as well. Mr. Whately's concept of amateur radio is somewhat warped from the popular (and legal) view, and I'm disturbed by this. If he doesn't learn to become a little more supportive of his fellow hams, I hope he would take his own advice and "get out of the hobby." -Chris From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 26 Nov 1995 14:13:46 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Lines: 14 Message-ID: <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> Greg-- what your old roommate and his girlfriend (she was probably lousy in bed) have to do with Ham radio is irrelevant. Upgrade or get out of the hobby. With Your inferior ticket you couldn't even talk with me on the air. Upgrade ---- then we'll chat. -mike -- Mike Whatley From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:30 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!news.uh.edu!news.uth.tmc.edu!admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu!not-for-mail From: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 25 Nov 1995 19:28:01 -0600 Organization: University of Texas - Houston, General Administration Lines: 28 Message-ID: <498fr1$hmk@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu> References: <4988iv$k80$4@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu In article <4988iv$k80$4@mhafm.production.compuserve.com>, Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a >ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the >No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. >Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need >anymore pseudo-hams. I'm a long-time opponent of the no-code license. I've been a ham since I was 10 years old, and have held an Extra, and this callsign, since I was 16. I truly believe that any sufficiently motivated person can learn the code, and the problemis one of sales, not one of the code test being inappropriate or outdated. All that said, I think Mike is completely out of line. We're not going to get anywhere enticing people into the hobby if they're just going to get slammed for taking what the FCC has set forth as a legitimate route to becoming a ham. Matt, welcome aboard. Mike, go away until you can learn how to treat people nicely. -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can http://k5zc.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity. "Next time, Pinkus, let sleeping guard dogs lie...especially when they have three heads!" -- The Brain, _Hercules Unwound_ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 26 Nov 1995 14:01:12 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <49adho$2j0@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu>, Nathan Ryan Gingras wrote: >I recieved this letter from Mike Whatley: Regardless of the content of the letter, its a real breach of nettiquette to post someone's private e-mail without their permission. If you have no courtesy on the 'net, shouldn't we expect similar behaviour from you on the amateur bands? Something about a leopard not being able to change its spots... >Feel free to put in your $.02 I happen to agree with 95% of what he says. People call the 80's the "Decade of Decadance". I call the 90's the "Decade of Do-Nothing". Because, that's exactly what people want to do -- nothing -- yet they want all the benefits that someone who HAS done what was required. Its the welfare-state mentality of this country, permeating itself into amateur radio. No longer is the handout simply a check or food-stamps from the government, today people want amateur radio license handouts. We call those handouts "No Code Tech licenses". MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!lll-winken.llnl.gov!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!news70.West.Sun.COM!myers From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 26 Nov 1995 16:20:51 GMT Organization: SunSoft South, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 25 Message-ID: <49a453$aj2@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.west.sun.com In article <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com>, Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Greg-- > >what your old roommate and his girlfriend (she was probably lousy in >bed) have to do with Ham radio is irrelevant. > >Upgrade or get out of the hobby. With Your inferior ticket you >couldn't even talk with me on the air. > >Upgrade ---- then we'll chat. > >-mike I've seen better attempts at flame-bait by 5 year old kids. Normally, when someone does a pathetically poor job at something, I encourage them to learn some more and try again; but, in this case, I'll make an exception. If all you want to do is flame people, try alt.flame. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!news-e1a.megaweb.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 26 Nov 1995 23:46:33 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49bfr9$9j7@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu>, herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) writes: >Get off line--- start studying--- or hit the road. You ain't bringing >anything >to the party.-- > >-mike > > pay no attention to mike, Nathan, he has never and will never bring anything to the party, unless of course he puts on his pointy white hat and dirty white bed sheets From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 27 Nov 1995 00:59:55 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <49bk4r$3c3@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> <49adho$2j0@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49b50b$8tq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <49b50b$8tq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >And soon to be "no-code HF licenses" > >Like it or not, it's only a matter of time. Deal with it!! Keep dreaming. Luckily the FCC doesn't agree with you. Deal with it! MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:35 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!stanlui From: stanlui@netcom.com (Stan lui) Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 04:51:44 GMT Lines: 33 Sender: stanlui@netcom16.netcom.com Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : I recieved this letter from Mike Whatley: : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : : Nathan- : 0: upgrade, : and get me a real ticket." But the statistics don't support that. : According to the W5YI statistical analysis over 80% of all : No-coders/Tech-Lites : *never* upgrade to General or above. : Get off line--- start studying--- or hit the road. You ain't bringing : anything : to the party.-- What about the 20 percent who did UPGRADE to a higher class license? is this not a start ?? And for the 80 percent who dont upgrade ; perhaps they ran into people like WA4D comments ?? How many times I have heard a KD6 call on HF and someone comes and say.. " You cant be a a Coded Tech.. You must be one of those NO CODe Techs ! Unfortunately this is not necessarrily so. ... As one mentioned : You got to start somewhere. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 28 Nov 1995 00:58:15 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49dmr7$4mr@cc.iu.net> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <49a453$aj2@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-59.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In <49a453$aj2@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) writes: >I've seen better attempts at flame-bait by 5 year old kids. things must really be slow over on compuserve's hamnet... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!cgreenha From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 27 Nov 1995 19:35:46 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49d3ui$4m4@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> <49adho$2j0@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49b50b$8tq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu In article <49b50b$8tq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >And soon to be "no-code HF licenses" > >Like it or not, it's only a matter of time. Deal with it!! > >-Drew in Charlotte- > KF4DDM Nothing more than an assumption. It may come true...it may not. Drew can cite NO evidence to support his 'opinion'. -- +=================================+===================================+ |Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT |cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu | |Electronic/Computer Tech. @ OSU |radio: n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam| +=================================+===================================+ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 27 Nov 1995 21:24:22 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <49drsm$4cs@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49b50b$8tq@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <49bk4r$3c3@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >The FCC could care less! The FCC has dismissed every petition sent to it since the advent of the codeless license with a summary "The amateur population wants a code test, so we're keeping a code test" judgement. >the no-code HF license in Japan. Which we already have the equivalent of: the CB radio service >I forsee a drop to 5WPM for all license classes initially (which would >satisfy the ITU), and then abandonment of the Morse requirement all >together. I'd say you have a better chance of having sex with Cindy Crawford. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:39 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!newshost.nmt.edu!flesh!djohnson From: Dave Johnson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC Shutdown Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:35:29 -0700 Organization: New Mexico Insitute of Mining and Technology Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <49ckcs$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: flesh.nmt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <49ckcs$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> "World Peace Through Ham Radio" Dave Johnson From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!spcuna!news.columbia.edu!watsun.cc.columbia.edu!jbaltz From: jbaltz@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jerry B Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 28 Nov 1995 15:58:03 GMT Organization: double ionizers association Lines: 16 Message-ID: <49fbib$ej9@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49bk4r$3c3@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <49drsm$4cs@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: watsun.cc.columbia.edu In article <49drsm$4cs@anomaly.ideamation.com>, Michael P. Deignan wrote: >In article <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, > Drew Durigan wrote: > >>the no-code HF license in Japan. >Which we already have the equivalent of: the CB radio service Hardly. The Japanese still have a licensure and identification requirement. CB does not. >MD //jbaltz jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@columbia.edu jbaltz@sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML (HEPNET) NEVIS::jbaltz From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 28 Nov 1995 17:35:13 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 22 Message-ID: <49fh8h$2pt@cis.clark.edu> References: <4988iv$k80$4@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) wrote: > Matt > I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a > ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the > No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. > Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need > anymore pseudo-hams. > -mike wa4d > -- > Mike Whatley Gee that doesn't sound like the friendly openess I've come to expect from a real ham radio operator. James A. Doty KI7EL From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:42 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!ccnet.com!rwilkins From: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC Shutdown Date: 29 Nov 1995 02:12:57 GMT Organization: home in the cAVe soaring Lines: 37 Message-ID: <49gfj9$l2g@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <49ckcs$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49doaf$bf2$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccnet3 Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) recently wrote in <49doaf$bf2$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>: : C'mon man. I know you can do it. Get off your butt and come on up : here where the flavor is and fly with Eagles! Why be complacent? Go ^^^^^^^ I guess you got the slider working on your Browning Eagle! Rodger Beep!! : for excellence, instead of wallowing in the muck with the great : unwashed masses of the hobby. Why not just slide it back down to your oun band. Take it back to rec.radio.cb : Mike WA44Dawg Next time makeup a better callsign before you slide up to the 10 meter ham band. If you really want to get a laugh use WD40 I heard RG8U one night and smiled as the eagles tried to work this rare dx. : Extra Class Licensee : Don't go no Higher where The elite of Amateur radio hang out-- If you have any "extra" class, your posts don't show it. Mostly a generous lack of class. After you work a hundred countries tell us how it feels to hang out with the rest of us novices, tech+ generals, and advanced. Pay your dues bucko, next year no code techs will have vanity calls much better than your made up call with all its "extra" class. Bob -- Bob Wilkins home bob@uhf.org Berkeley, California work bwilkins@cave.org 94712-2354 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!paperboy.ids.net!anomaly.ideamation.com!anomaly.ideamation.com!not-for-mail From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 28 Nov 1995 21:04:17 -0500 Organization: Ideamation, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <49gf31$642@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <49drsm$4cs@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49fbib$ej9@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: anomaly In article <49fbib$ej9@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>, Jerry B Altzman wrote: >Hardly. The Japanese still have a licensure and identification requirement. >CB does not. Claim whatever you like, but the US CB radio service used to have callsigns and identification requirements too... Japan's "No-code HF" license is effectively the same as our CB radio license. MD -- -- -- "Who needs looks when you've got taste?" -- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!athos.itribe.net!global.gc.net!cmail!mike.moffit From: mike.moffit@cmail.com (Mike Moffit) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC SHUTDOWN Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:34:00 GMT Message-ID: <95112820420526283@cmail.com> Organization: The Christian Mailbox BBS (810)631-6870 Distribution: world References: <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <8057-292562001@inferno.com> Lines: 11 77> Upgrade or get out of the hobby. With Your inferior ticket you 77> couldn't even talk with me on the air. With an attitude like yours, who'd want to talk to you anyway? 73 de KB8TXL * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 50 * Sorry... my mind has a few bad sectors. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:45 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!athos.itribe.net!global.gc.net!cmail!mike.moffit From: mike.moffit@cmail.com (Mike Moffit) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC SHUTDOWN Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:36:00 GMT Message-ID: <95112820420526284@cmail.com> Organization: The Christian Mailbox BBS (810)631-6870 Distribution: world References: <49a0uq$agu@uwm.edu> <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <499smq$fv0$2@mhafn.productio Lines: 17 <<>> NG> Is this the kind of bullshit that makes people want to be hams? This NG> seems to think that instead of encouraging people to upgrade, he wil NG> demean them, and tell them to get out of the hobby. I agree with you, Nathan...I have the license I need to cover what I want to do...packet, community service and satellites. If Mike Whatley wants to keep his attitude, let him...he'll run out of people to talk to soon! * RM 1.3 * Eval Day 50 * Health tip: Red meat IS good. Blue fuzzy meat is BA . From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC Shutdown Date: 29 Nov 1995 00:56:00 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <49gb30$9dr@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <49ckcs$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49dea7$1mn4@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-025.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Wow Drew!...you are really a cry baby...were you one of those guys in school that could never do a project on your own? Always using someone elses paper. Always crying when an exam came up.. always looking for the easy way out? Is there anything that you think is worth working for? Do you think the average guy wants to become an engineer or tech to get on the ham bands? I don't think so..Therefore lets get rid of all the theory too..who needs it now anyway..it's pretty much useless for the average person.. I bet if it wasn't a simple memorization game, you'd be bitching about that too..Well I've lost respect for amateur radio because of people like you, so I don't care anymore if they get rid of all the requirements and soon I am sure I will be cussing and jamming with the best of them.. Steve, wa2nhz From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!news.jsums.edu!despina.neptune.com!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 29 Nov 1995 02:05:34 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 24 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49h0nu$8e9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: >The FCC could care less! The problem is the international agreement... >although we've seen lots of progress lately in this area; England and New >Zealand, for example. Also the no-code HF license in Japan. > >I forsee a drop to 5WPM for all license classes initially (which would >satisfy the ITU), and then abandonment of the Morse requirement all >together. > >Again, it's only a matter of time Not till at least 1997 or 1999 does this mean we have to keep this cockadooey going till then?? lets talk about something else like.......why the some US manufacturer can't or won't produce a good HF rig for a decent price. Or how do we really know that the little light in the frig ACTUALLY does go off when you close the door steve From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.i1.net!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC Shutdown Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:20:03 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 15 Message-ID: <49htiu$8dp@news1.inlink.com> References: <49doaf$bf2$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <49f8vf$spv@newshost.lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip159.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 This thread is starting to get way off base guys! The hobby has many features that meet the needs of the hams who utilize those features! Not everyone is interested in microwave and not everyone is interested in CW. I have been a ham since 1959 and would like to see the code above 5 wpm abolished and perhaps a typing test put in its place. Gary From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!news.paonline.com!usenet From: edellers@shivasys.com (Ed Ellers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC shutdown Date: 30 Nov 1995 02:33:51 GMT Organization: Pennsylvania Online! [Usenet News Server for hire] Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49j56f$ceh@news.paonline.com> References: <8057-292562001@inferno.com> <49degs$jkm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <49drsm$4cs@anomaly.ideamation.com> <49fbib$ej9@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <49gf31$642@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl06.shivasys.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <49gf31$642@anomaly.ideamation.com>, kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com says... >Claim whatever you like, but the US CB radio service used to have >callsigns and identification requirements too... > >Japan's "No-code HF" license is effectively the same as our CB radio >license. Dead wrong. Japan's entry-level license is in the amateur service, and is intended for that purpose. CB is not. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:49 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: Someone@home.UCSD.EDU (ME) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC utdown Date: 28 Nov 95 20:04:04 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 24 Message-ID: Reply-To: Don't_reply@home.UCSD.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Mike Whatley (73057.2225@CompuServe.COM) wrote: > Matt > I hope you don't get your ticket for a *long* time. You are not a > ham until you get the General Class ticket. Tech-lite and the > No-code tickets are for wanna-be's. > Upgrade to the real thing or get out of the hobby. We don't need > anymore pseudo-hams. > -mike wa4d > -- > Mike Whatley >Gee that doesn't sound like the friendly openess I've come to expect >from a real ham radio operator. >James A. Doty >KI7EL Great Expectations! Me. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:50 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!van-bc!news.mindlink.net!mindlink.bc.ca!a11117 From: David_Walcott@mindlink.bc.ca (David Walcott) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: frequencies for Mir? Date: Wed, 29 Nov 95 21:33:42 -0800 Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada Lines: 3 Distribution: world Message-ID: <80918-817709622@mindlink.bc.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: mindlink.net Does anyone know if the radio frequencies for spacecraft Mir are available, and if so where? Thanks, David From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:51 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: time@tir.com (Tim E.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 09:49:47 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4992dm$5o3@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <48qhrh$o3f@ionews.ionet.net> <48qns0$3dg@ramp2.lisp.com> Reply-To: time@tir.com NNTP-Posting-Host: an4.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) wrote: > >->If the radio is wired directly to the battery and the battery's neg. >->cable opens, the NEW return path is through the moutning bracket of >->the radio or from the shield of the antenna to the radio and back to >->the battery via the radio's skinny little power lead . It's a huge >->draw even in warm climes, during a cold winter start the starter might >->attemp to draw upwards of 1000 amps through this "backup" of the >->battery's negative lead. >->Gary >->-- >->garyn@tir.com >->Sometimes you're the bug, Sometimes you're the windshield >->--------------------------------------------------------- -- Be honest now. When was the last time you actually saw or even heard of the negative battery cable coming loose ? Anyway sounds like fun to see a brand new $2000 rig light up like a toaster ! -- Tim (time@tir.com) Amateur radio: WB8OGM From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:52 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!tir.com!news From: garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Fusing Power Leads Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 10:43:39 GMT Organization: The Internet Ramp Lines: 44 Message-ID: <499ftq$6n0@ramp2.lisp.com> References: <48j3d0$646@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <48qhrh$o3f@ionews.ionet.net> <48qns0$3dg@ramp2.lisp.com> <4992dm$5o3@ramp2.lisp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: an9.tir.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 time@tir.com (Tim E.) wrote: >garyn@tir.com (Gary Newberry) wrote: >> >>->If the radio is wired directly to the battery and the battery's neg. >>->cable opens, the NEW return path is through the moutning bracket of >>->the radio or from the shield of the antenna to the radio and back to >>->the battery via the radio's skinny little power lead . It's a huge >>->draw even in warm climes, during a cold winter start the starter might >>->attemp to draw upwards of 1000 amps through this "backup" of the >>->battery's negative lead. >>->Gary >>->-- >>->garyn@tir.com >>->Sometimes you're the bug, Sometimes you're the windshield >>->--------------------------------------------------------- >-- >Be honest now. When was the last time you actually saw or even heard >of the negative battery cable coming loose ? >Anyway sounds like fun to see a brand new $2000 rig light up like a >toaster ! >-- >Tim (time@tir.com) >Amateur radio: WB8OGM It's Called "Lawsuit Protection" when a comapny such as McDonalds gets sued for a hot coffee spill (for $450,000.00) and Ford Motor Co. gets sued for the 85 Escort not having an Aibag (when it wasn't even an option in that year) , they begin to takle Extreme measures to protect themselves .... that's my guess for the reason some Mfgrs. add the Negative line fuse and why you see the little notices in McDonalds windows that say "Caution Coffee Served Very HOT " Gary -- garyn@tir.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:53 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!wizard.pn.com!ci-pioneer!panda!norm.collins From: norm.collins@panda.org (NORM COLLINS) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Fusing Power Leads Message-ID: <8B5A2FB.04B7000002.uuout@panda.org> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 12:43:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: PandA's Den BBS, Danvers, MA, USA (508) 750-0250 panda.org Reply-To: norm.collins@panda.org (NORM COLLINS) X-Newsreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Lines: 18 MSGID: mid__497kku$18m@lehi.kuentos.guam.net 9af80001 REPLYTO 1:330/317 UUCP REPLYADDR norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net PID GIGO+ sn 395 at panda vsn 0.99.950801 From: norman@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Norm Collins) Subject: Fusing Power Leads Organization: Kuentos Communications Inc. Thank you to all who responded to my question regarding fusing mobile equipment. I appreciate the time and effort. Regards Norm Collins --- * Origin: Usenet: SATINS/Net330 uucp gateway * PandA's Den BBS *Ku (1:330/317) From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:54 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!connix.com!news From: pete brunelli Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Good Windows Log? Date: 27 Nov 1995 17:45:34 GMT Organization: Connix - The Connecticut Internet Exchange Lines: 23 Message-ID: <49ctfu$sqk@comet.connix.com> References: <30B5DC16.2DE7@nexus.interealm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcb.connix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) "George J. Molnar" wrote: >Anyone know of a good logging program for windows? I'd like one that (at >least) interfaces with a SAM callbook. I've seen many pretty decent DOS >based loggers out there, but I'd like to go "all windows", if possible. > >Thanks! George, try XMLOG, it is in most hamradio/logger ftp sites. It has the CDROM interface and basic awards tracking. I use it for my mobile contact logging and it is ok. No auto fill-in like logEQF, but it will do auto time-stamp and a few other conveniences. GL ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Brunelli Amateur Call N1QDQ Check out http://www.connix.com/~pcb Home of the Rolling Thunder Contest Club Mobileering for a Better Tomorrow ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:55 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Gutless assholes Date: 26 Nov 1995 12:19:41 GMT Lines: 21 Message-ID: <499m0t$28q@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <49876c$jte$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: 71111.260@CompuServe.COM Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Good ol' Burt said: > >>Everyone who hates my postings can get the f*** off >>the internet. > >They're going to close down the internet? I was not the author of the message you credit me with authoring. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!news.clark.edu!jamesd From: jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Gutless assholes Date: 27 Nov 1995 17:42:09 GMT Organization: Clark College, Vancouver Wa. USA Lines: 29 Message-ID: <49ct9h$qdp@cis.clark.edu> References: <4986r5$e6e@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: clark.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > ---------------------------------863041914108 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > koik@ccsnet.COM (Burt Fisher) wrote: > Return-Path: jdehry@ix.netcom.com > Received: from ix9.ix.netcom.com by ccsnet.com with smtp > id BCCDAGDN ; Fri, 24 Nov 1995 18:35:06 -0500 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 15:37:51 -0800 > From: jdehry@ix.netcom.com (S. D. ) > Subject: Re: My wife even thinks hams are.... > To: Burt Fisher I may not like everything I've read from you, and I don't agree with much that you say, and you can be insensitive at times, but the message that spineless jellyfish left about what your wife should do was totally uncalled for. I can't believe the nerve of that guy. Maybe it's time to talk to some postmasters at some of these sites. James A. Doty KI7EL From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:57 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!alpha1.csd.uwm.edu!not-for-mail From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Gutless assholes Date: 27 Nov 1995 17:45:45 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49ctg9$4g9@uwm.edu> References: <4986r5$e6e@alterdial.UU.NET> <49ct9h$qdp@cis.clark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.169.1 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] I'd like to declare Mike Whately one of the lamest bastards on the net as a result of his previous postings about people below general class, and as a result of his attacking burt fisher in a VERY uneducated and immature manner. I'll admit that I have not agreed with everything that Burt has said, but I think that mike's flame was totally uncalled for, and just shows what a fool he is. A double fuck you to Mr. Mike Whately. Nate, KB9LSX From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:58 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.uiowa.edu!uunet!in1.uu.net!news1.digital.com!decwrl!amd!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Ham-L Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <49cv89$qm6@cis.clark.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 00:11:07 GMT Lines: 13 Sender: jlowman@netcom.netcom.com James A Doty (jamesd@clark.edu) wrote: : Is Ham-L gone? I haven't received any messages from there in over a : week. I would be interested to know also. I unsubscribed about a month ago, because there was very little of value on there - just a bunch of flaming. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:19:59 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!sierra.net!gridley-s220.manznet.com!user From: dogs@sierra.net (Richard G. Erickson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help locate Date: 28 Nov 1995 04:28:33 GMT Organization: Sycamore School Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: gridley-s220.manznet.com I have been trying to locate an old student and friend of mine, WD6AST, Stuart Biggs. I don't have a callbook that is current enough. Could someone help me, please? Post here or dogs@sierra.net. Thanks Richard From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:00 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.jersey.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: cronnjwc Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help locate Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:23:01 GMT Organization: cftnet.com Lines: 3 Message-ID: <49fr35$4aq@tech.cftnet.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cft10.ppp246.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: dogs@sierra.net Go to the QRZ home page. They have a up to date call book on line Jim W2GC From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:01 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!homer.alpha.net!news.jersey.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!sierra.net!gridley-s222.manznet.com!user From: dogs@sierra.net (Richard G. Erickson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help locate Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:42:08 GMT Organization: Sycamore School Lines: 3 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gridley-s222.manznet.com People on the net have been super. I now have the information. > Thanks > Richard From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!taco.cc.ncsu.edu!cc05du.unity.ncsu.edu!jwprice From: jwprice@unity.ncsu.edu (James Warren Price) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help locate Date: 28 Nov 1995 16:05:21 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <49fc01$hkf@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cc05du.unity.ncsu.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Richard G. Erickson (dogs@sierra.net) wrote: : I have been trying to locate an old student and friend of mine, WD6AST, : Stuart Biggs. I don't have a callbook that is current enough. Could : someone help me, please? Post here or dogs@sierra.net. : Thanks : Richard Try telnet callsign.ualr.edu 2000 73 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim N3QYE, n3qye@jbj.org From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:02 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.jersey.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!tech.cftnet.com!usenet From: Jim Cronn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Help with Tube Amplifier Troubleshooting Date: 27 Nov 1995 20:50:12 GMT Organization: cftnet.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <49d8a4$jsh@tech.cftnet.com> References: <1995Nov20.183601.13354@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: cft10.ppp246.cftnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us TRy putting a swr meter between output and the input and then follow the thread that the other fellow suggested. Open cable , open swith etc. Jim W2GC From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:03 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!lamarck.sura.net!fconvx.ncifcrf.gov!mack From: mack@ncifcrf.gov (Joe Mack) Subject: Re: Help with Tube Amplifier Troubleshooting Message-ID: Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center References: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:38:15 GMT Lines: 39 In article harris.pander01@ic1d.harris.com (Paul Anderson) writes: > >I'm repairing an HF amp -- a Yaesu FL-2100B -- which uses two 572Bs. I'm >Problem: the amp does not accept power from a 50 ohm exciter -- very high SWR >at the input. A tube amp with and without HT voltage (ie just filaments) looks _about_ the same for _small_ amounts of input power, ie you should be able to get a _rough_ tune up without HT. Since you're not, I'd check the input circuit first. (Infinite SWR problems can sometimes be solved with an ohmmeter :-) ). You could also pull the tube from the socket and put a 50-100 ohm resistor into the grid hole in the socket and the other end to the chassis (or to the cathode hole if it's grouded grid) to simulate a working tube grid circuit. >I notice "a little" ionization in the tubes with high-voltage >applied. The blue-ness is in a very small zone where the plate lead passes >into an insulator. Sorry don't know anything about this. Joe NA3T mack@ncifcrf.gov > >Questions: Is "a little" ionization too much to have in a transmitting tube? >Will this condition cause high SWR on the amplifier's input? Will a new pair >of tubes take care of things? > >Advice please! > >*********************************************************** >*** Paul Anderson *** >*** E-mail: pander01@harris.com *** >*** Amateur Packet: AB4VA @ KD4WLE.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NA *** >*********************************************************** From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!Germany.EU.net!news.dfn.de!scsing.switch.ch!swsbe6.switch.ch!swidir.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!oleane!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!psgrain!news.tek.com!mdhost!gaulandm From: gaulandm@mdhost.cse.tek.com (Michael Alan Gauland) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: HELP: FT-23r Display Blinking! Date: 29 Nov 1995 21:18:55 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc, Beaverton, OR, USA Lines: 14 Sender: gaulandm@mdhost (Michael Alan Gauland) Distribution: world Message-ID: <49iinv$bev@tekadm1.cse.tek.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hardtime.cse.tek.com Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94895 rec.radio.amateur.equipment:21842 My Yaesu FT-23R HT has taken up the rather distressing habbit of continuously flashing everything on the display. It no longer seems to transmit, though receive works fine on whatever repeater it was last tuned in to. Any ideas on how to best discourage this behavior? Thanks, Mike -- Michael A. Gauland gaulandm@mdhost.cse.tek.com AA7JF (503) 627-5067 From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:05 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.icon.net!usenet From: System Administrator Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF TOO CROWDED? Date: 26 Nov 1995 21:14:48 GMT Organization: (ICON) InterConnect Online, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <49alc8$ms8@news.icon.net> References: <494maj$l8n@giga.bga.com> <4985l9$17g@anomaly.ideamation.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.28.106.121 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.12 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i486) X-URL: news:4985l9$17g@anomaly.ideamation.com kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) wrote: >In article , > charles copeland wrote: > >>There is LOTS of room on uhf/vhf for new hams. I've never seen these >>bands overly crowded in the largest of cities. > >My guess is you don't get on 2 meters in NYC or LA much, huh? I went to LA once, and brought my HT along. I expected a very crowded band and an interesting evening of listening to the Hams. Alas, it was mostly repeater ID's and kerchunking. There was a couple guys speaking spanish on another channel. After about an hour I just shut it off and went to a bar. -- Steve From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:06 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.oberlin.edu!ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu!PRUTH From: pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: How to clean up the ham bands? Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:08:55 GMT Organization: Oberlin College, Oberlin, Ohio Lines: 13 Message-ID: <49fq8n$cqi@news.cc.oberlin.edu> Reply-To: pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha.cc.oberlin.edu Although I change frequencies when I come across hams using profane, obscene language I wonder where, and how, the "self- policing" hams are supposed to do comes into play? Do we break into the conversation, reminding the errant hams about Part 97, or just leave them alone? As for illegal activities conducted on the ham bands, activities which I've heard are rampant especially out west, it would prove dangerous or fatal to DF and get physically anywhere near such criminals, but that's another story. I, for one, would dearly love to hear a return to civility and clean language, and want to do what I can to help bring this about, besides setting a good example, that is... Any thoughts on this? --Bill KB8USZ pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news1.i1.net!news1.inlink.com!usenet From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How to clean up the ham bands? Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 15:22:32 GMT Organization: Inlink Lines: 22 Message-ID: <49htnl$8dp@news1.inlink.com> References: <49fq8n$cqi@news.cc.oberlin.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip159.inlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu wrote: >Although I change frequencies when I come across hams using >profane, obscene language I wonder where, and how, the "self- >policing" hams are supposed to do comes into play? Do we >break into the conversation, reminding the errant hams about >Part 97, or just leave them alone? As for illegal activities >conducted on the ham bands, activities which I've heard are >rampant especially out west, it would prove dangerous or fatal >to DF and get physically anywhere near such criminals, but >that's another story. I, for one, would dearly love to hear >a return to civility and clean language, and want to do what >I can to help bring this about, besides setting a good example, >that is... Any thoughts on this? --Bill KB8USZ >pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu A little straight pin that has the varnish removed placed strategically does wonders for eliminating unwanted stations from the air. Gary From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!uwm.edu!homer.alpha.net!news.jersey.net!ns2.mainstreet.net!bug.rahul.net!a2i!sierra.net!gridley-s222.manznet.com!user From: dogs@sierra.net (Richard G. Erickson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Locating a ham Richard Erickson Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:44:00 GMT Organization: Sycamore School Lines: 3 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: gridley-s222.manznet.com People on the net have been super. I now have the info. > Thanks > Richard From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nntp.coast.net!oleane!in2p3.fr!swidir.switch.ch!serra.unipi.it!icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it!organiss From: organiss@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Looking for instructions on Infotech 200 and M200E Date: 27 Nov 95 22:40:36 +0100 Organization: CNUCE - CNR, Pisa - Italy Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1995Nov27.224036@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it Dear Ham friends, my call-sign is IN3YGW and I am an Italian radio amateur. I'm looking for the I nstruction book of an RTTY equipment produced by the Infotech. I mean two diffe rent models: model 300 and the model M200E. If somebody can send it to me I will pay for all the expenses. Anyway, if you h ave the instructions just contact me and we will sure agree. Since I am guest of another Internet user, please e-mail your answers to MASTIN O@ISSCNR.AREA.SS.CNR.IT Thanks in advance for your kind collaboration, Antonello Mastino IN3YGW From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!dsi.unimi.it!galileo.polito.it!usenet From: Piero Pirrone Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: LOOKING FOR WORLD-WIDE SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTORS Date: 26 Nov 1995 11:29:41 GMT Organization: Politecnico di Torino - Italy Lines: 12 Message-ID: <499j35$5re@galileo.polito.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcttym00.inrete.it Hello, I'm Piero IK1TZO, of Microware Software. We are looking for amateurs or companies interested to become distributors of EasyLog, advertised on DX Magazine. Please contact via e-mail only to: IK1TZO@inrete.it Best 73 IK1TZO From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!telepost.no!usenet From: palr@telepost.no (Pĺl Rřnningen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: LSG(Fu)b schematics wanted Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:37:45 GMT Organization: Skien Kommune Lines: 18 Message-ID: <49hjk4$4o2@nms.telepost.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: skien106.telepost.no X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hello y'all... I apologize in advance becuase this is off topic, but I figured that thisnewsgroup is where I would have the best luck. LSG(Fu)b is an amplifier for the German UKWe radio from WW2. Would anyone out there happen to have some cind of schematic for this unit? I would be willing to reimburse photocopy/mailing expenses. Sincerely, Paal R. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:12 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: MODS FOR HTX-202??? From: clint.bradford@woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wwswinc!clint.bradford Distribution: world Message-ID: <93.14075.7585.0NFBB94F@woodybbs.com> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 09:55:00 -0500 Organization: WoodyWare Software, Inc. - 516-736-6662 Lines: 18 Subject: MODS FOR HTX-202??? >>Does anyone know of any modifications for the rs HTX-202 handie for >>out of band receive or xmit? Thanks for any info. Alan N1UJU There are NO modifications to enable extended transmit or receive for the HTX-202. Those damn Radio Shack engineers...how DARE they manufacture a solid, reliably performer like the HTX-202, which ONLY works well AS ADVERTISED. clint.bradford@atdbbs.com --- * TLX v4.00 * ATTENTION to Details AMATEUR RADIO BBS - 909/681-6221 ţ wcECHO 4.1 ÷ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details ţ Mira Loma, CA ţ 909-681-6221 From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!nuclear.microserve.net!news.paonline.com!usenet From: edellers@shivasys.com (Ed Ellers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MODS FOR HTX-202??? Date: 30 Nov 1995 02:50:02 GMT Organization: Pennsylvania Online! [Usenet News Server for hire] Lines: 29 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49j64q$ceh@news.paonline.com> References: <93.14075.7585.0NFBB94F@woodybbs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl06.shivasys.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.7 In article <93.14075.7585.0NFBB94F@woodybbs.com>, clint.bradford@woodybbs.com says... >There are NO modifications to enable extended transmit or receive for the >HTX-202. > >Those damn Radio Shack engineers...how DARE they manufacture a solid, >reliably performer like the HTX-202, which ONLY works well AS ADVERTISED. > > This sort of complaint (I'm not blaming you, Clint!) reminds me of the time QST did a review on the Yaesu FT-101 HF transceiver in which the author opined that perhaps Yaesu should have left out the 11M band. They promptly got a letter that basically called them "ugly Americans" for ignoring the fact that the Yaesu was being sold in countries where 11M was still an amateur band. (The complainer ignored the fact that Japanese and other companies routinely make otherwise-identical radios that have different band coverage for different countries, not only in the amateur field but in others as well.) Of course, many FT-101s found their way into the hands of CB pirates. I've heard it alleged that more 101s were sold in the U.S. than there were hams licensed to transmit on HF. Getting back to the topic, if Tandy wants to make a radio that only does 144-148 MHz they have every right to do so. Anyone who refuses to buy a 2M HT that doesn't also happen to be a 200-channel scanner for the 108-174 MHz band has that right as well. Both positions have their good and bad points. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.datasync.com!news From: gdfender Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Multi_Elmac power supply needed Date: 28 Nov 1995 19:38:16 GMT Organization: Datasync Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49fof8$umd@osh2.datasync.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: os-ppp1.datasync.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) To: All HELP! Looking for a Multi Elmac power supply for the AF-67/68 Transmitter. I'm trying to rejuvinate the old rig. Also interested in a Multi Elmac PMR 6/7/8 reciever. Please reply to W6SZX at eureka@datasync.com 73 Gary From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.datasync.com!news From: gdfender Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Multi_Elmac power supply needed Date: 28 Nov 1995 19:38:29 GMT Organization: Datasync Internet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49fofl$umd@osh2.datasync.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: os-ppp1.datasync.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) HELP! Looking for a Multi Elmac power supply for the AF-67/68 Transmitter. I'm trying to rejuvinate the old rig. Also interested in a Multi Elmac PMR 6/7/8 reciever. Please reply to W6SZX at eureka@datasync.com 73 Gary From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:15 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net!simtel!torn!govonca3!40217154 From: barsta1@epo.gov.on.ca (Are Barstad) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Multi_Elmac power supply needed Date: 28 Nov 1995 23:52:02 GMT Organization: Ministry of the Solicitor General & Correctional Services Lines: 11 Message-ID: <49g7b2$itl@govonca3.gov.on.ca> References: <49fofl$umd@osh2.datasync.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 142.140.217.154 X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #3 In article <49fofl$umd@osh2.datasync.com>, gdfender wrote: >HELP! Looking for a Multi Elmac power supply for the AF-67/68 >Transmitter. I'm trying to rejuvinate the old rig. Also interested in a >Multi Elmac PMR 6/7/8 reciever. Try to post it in: REC.RADIO.SWAP - probably works better. 73, VA3ARE - Are Barstad From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: UA9AI@greg.mis.CHel.SU (Gregory Bukreev) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need advice Date: 29 Nov 95 17:05:00 GMT Organization: GREGORY A.BUKREEV Lines: 17 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu >From UA9AI Wed Nov 29 19:56:02 MSK 1995 Dear friend! First of all please exuse me on my awful English. A few month ago I bought VHF/UHF transceiver ALINCO DR 510 SX ( CIRFOLK ) I have heard this trcvr can operate with subtone enc&dec.But my trcvr does not work. Subtne unit has installed but not EJ-3U and a little bit differ. I have five trvrs and every has this unit but does not work. Unfortunately I have no manual in English only in Japanees which is absolutely not understandble. Could you give me advice or send me manual via fax machine. Give me your telephon number I shall call you. My address is UA9AI@greg.mis.chel.su. Thank you advance ! Gregory Bookreev UA9AI From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:17 1995 Message-ID: <364711@280.chatlink.com> From: Gandolff@sys280.chatlink.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!redstone.interpath.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess Date: 21 Nov 1995 12:56:28 PST Subject: Re: Need ideas for ham radio mini class Lines: 5 i tried it with adults for 12 weeks and only had one person (a fireman) out of 25 people pass the test for no-code ham good luck 3s' de wayne n1off From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!usc!news.cerf.net!news.titan.com!usenet From: Bill Bennett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need ideas for ham radio mini class Date: 27 Nov 1995 21:14:11 GMT Organization: The Titan Corporation, San Diego, CA, USA Lines: 23 Message-ID: <49d9n3$kjb@taxis.corp.titan.com> References: <364711@280.chatlink.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: moe.bc.tisc.titan.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Formulas where ever posable ie: All repeaters input to output will be between 5 and 10% modulation baudrates = 0.01% of the frequency meters to frequency= *300 (look for the X.1mhz) frequency to meters= /300 (look for the XX.1mhz) 1/2 wave feet=468/f (in inches *12) 1/4 wave feet=234/f refelectors on yaggis are a little longer than 1/2 wave (5%) directors are shorter npn=not pointing in And when studying never read the wrong answer!!! The wrong answer will be seen only during testing, and in most cases wont make sence! I have been helping kids 10-17 years they seem to get it easy'ly my 10 year old son KE6YPQ took 2 tryes each novice, tech. and 15 to 20 hrs total study refrences: KE6YAN, KE6YAO, KE6YPQ bill KC6YOX From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!purdue!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need QSL info for 8R1K, PZ2AC, PZ1DV! Date: 28 Nov 1995 19:38:21 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <49fofd$9vf@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: w3eax.umd.edu I just worked 8R1K during the CQ WW DX CW and it's a new one for me. I WANT THAT CARD! The others (PZ2AC, PZ1DV) are Surinam stations to whom I have sent EACH about $3.00 and still not gotten a QSL. Please, can anyone help? Thanks! -- Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 ** Yes, you CAN do VHF contests with 25W and omni antennas ** Still stuck at 138 countries confirmed on HF w/dipoles... -------------------------------------------------------------- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: ve2sux@ki5pi.NMSU.EDU (Marc Purdon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RE: No code 10 Meter Date: 27 Nov 95 20:12:22 GMT Organization: Ham Radio Lines: 19 Message-ID: <199511272012.MAA29088@mail.ucsd.edu> Reply-To: ve2sux@ki5pi.NMSU.Edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams! : Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out : fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what : you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind : of difference we can make! Let's go a step further. No licese on 10m. The reunion of 10 and 11m!! Radio Shack, Cobra, Uniden coming out with new 10-11m radios. What a dream to some. Next thing you know you'll be writing the FCC for no code at all, then no licence at all. Marc. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:20 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!bt!btnet!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: kf2ti@aol.com (KF2TI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No code 10 Meter Date: 29 Nov 1995 02:04:48 -0500 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 17 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <49h0mg$8c9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <49df75$19dc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader In article <49df75$19dc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: >Uh, guess what? "The reunion of 10 and 11m!! ... Uniden coming out with >new 10-11m radios" already happened...about 7 years ago. They have names >such as "HR2510", "Galaxy", "Emperor", "Ranger", and "RCI-2950/70" > >Where have you been? > >-Drew in Charlotte- can't legally use them like that...but you know that aready Drew happy thanksgiving to all steve From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:22 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.net99.net!news!rec From: rec@goodnet.com (Richard Eyre-Eagles) Subject: Re: NO CODE 10 METER!! Message-ID: Organization: GoodNet X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <485ns1$e6j@uwm.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 14:48:14 GMT Lines: 29 Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : Think about what having 10 meter priveleges would do for no-code hams! : Let's petition for 10m priveleges. organize local Amateur clubs, hand out : fliers... WRITE the fcc. Talk to anyone, and EVERYONE... tell them what : you think about the advantages of no-code 10 m, and let's see what kind : of difference we can make! What is *SO BAD* about learning code at 5 WPM??? 5 is easy. I am opposed to no-code on HF but I am NOT opposed to 'slow code' on HF. I think that the 20 WPM code test should be eliminated. For many, the 4(a) [Advanced] is a very difficult test. I think the next code test should be at the Extra Class level. You can have up to an Advanced class license with 5 WPM code. To get the extra class, you would have to pass the 4(b) written test and pass a 13WPM code test. All existing General and Advanced class licensees and those holding CSCEs for the element 1(b) or 1(c) is credited. -- ================================================================== Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU | "The opinions expressed are not Tempe, Arizona | those of anyone but myself" ================================================================== From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:23 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action Date: 28 Nov 1995 20:28:30 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 9 Message-ID: <49frde$1je$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: > The W5YI statistical analysis shows.........< That figures don't lie, but .....s figure? -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cc.iu.net!news From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action Date: 29 Nov 1995 04:35:08 GMT Organization: Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Lines: 12 Message-ID: <49gnts$rc0@cc.iu.net> References: <49cjbc$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49dnvl$bf2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) NNTP-Posting-Host: netport-56.iu.net X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2 In , charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) writes: >Everywhere in the country I've been VHF is full of well behaved >polite respectable people. You can't say that about 80 meters. where 1 looney can make life miserable for a bunch of people over a greater distance... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ssd.intel.com!chnews!vegas.ch.intel.com!cmoore From: cmoore@vegas.ch.intel.com (Cecil A. Moore~) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action Date: 28 Nov 1995 17:26:38 GMT Organization: Intel Corporation, Chandler, AZ Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49fgoe$jih@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <49cjbc$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49dnvl$bf2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vegas.ch.intel.com In article <49dnvl$bf2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>, Mike Whatley <73057.2225@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Rendered harmless on VHF, but bringing >nothing to the party. Wanna-be's and Never were's. My friend Tom, N7SZP, with a PhD degree in Electrical Engineering, usually charges $100 per hour but has a special for you. For only $200 per hour he might be willing to attend your party! 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:25 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!buffnet2.buffnet.net!buffnet3!bbass From: bbass@buffnet.net (Ben Bass) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action Date: 29 Nov 1995 14:49:49 GMT Organization: BuffNET Lines: 34 Message-ID: <49hrue$l49@buffnet2.buffnet.net> References: <49cjbc$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49dnvl$bf2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: buffnet3.buffnet.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] charles copeland (charles1@netcom.com) wrote: : >The No-Coder ticket is Ham Radio's affirmative action plan. Reduce : >test criteria and dumb down the exams so that we can expand the : >total numbers of the hobby. : > : >The League (if you recall) sold this idea with much hype. We were : >told of this large group of technically literate persons who would : >flood the hobby, enrich and diversify it. If only they didn't have : >to learn the code. Just give em a chance. : > : >Of course they flooded the hobby, all right. Give anything away and : >all kinds of animals will show up. All No-Coders claim they're gonna : >upgrade or working on it. I'm an example of EXACTLY who was supposed to be attracted by the codeless license. I've been a broadcast engineer for 20+ years and I work with computer systems. It WAS the code that kept me from getting my Ham ticket years ago. I won't call it obsolete or outmoded, it just doesn't interest me and I find it difficult to devote the time to learn something I'm not interested in and would likely never use. I've never promised to upgrade and never claimed to be working working on an upgrade. I too could likely pass the Extra written exam without any trouble. Should the exam be more difficult? Are there appliance operators among our ranks? Absolutely...no argument from me. But if you want to hear obnoxious operators, I think there's more of a problems on 75 meters than on 2 meters I'm not into DX and really have no great desire to get into it, for now. I am into experimenting with computer interfaces and repeaters. Isn't that what removing the code was supposed to encourage? 73 de Ben N2YDM From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:27 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!jlowman From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: No-Code = Affirmative Action Message-ID: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL1] References: <49cjbc$7i7@dub-news-svc-5.compuserve.com> <49dnvl$bf2$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <49hrue$l49@buffnet2.buffnet.net> Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 21:50:11 GMT Lines: 31 Sender: jlowman@netcom22.netcom.com Ben Bass (bbass@buffnet.net) wrote: : Should the exam be more difficult? Are there appliance operators among our : ranks? Absolutely...no argument from me. But if you want to hear : obnoxious operators, I think there's more of a problems on 75 meters than : on 2 meters I've been a ham since the mid 60s, and the term "appliance operator" was being thrown around way back then. About that time, I bought the Drake R-4 and T-4X pair, which would have easily qualified me as such. At least it was possible to repair that equipment oneself, and the complete schematics were furnished with the manuals. Even instructions to perform a complete alignment were included, and it could be accomplished with such mundane test equipment as an RF signal generator and a VTVM. Tell me, how many people can troubleshoot/repair the likes of the IC-775DSP or a similar high-end transceiver? They're like the latest cars and trucks, requiring special test equipment and techniques, to service. I'm interested in QRP operations, and a lot of low-power enthusiasts are still into homebrewing, but how many Extra Class hams still do much building? I spent 8 years working on FAA-style Air Traffic Control radar systems, and don't feel all that qualified to build much more than a Heathkit which, sadly, is no more. Jim jlowman@netcom.com | Jim Lowman * KF6CR* San Bernardino, CA Systems Analyst | San Bernardino City Unified School District (909) 881-8146 (O) | Unix: "It isn't supposed to be easy...If it (909) 862-0662 (FAX)| was, everyone would be doing it." -Unknown- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:28 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!EU.net!peer-news.britain.eu.net!demon!mail2news.demon.co.uk!microvst.demon.co.uk From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: Sun, 26 Nov 95 09:38:20 GMT Organization: Microvest Limited, London Lines: 21 Message-ID: <817378700snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <816885577snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> <48qu2n$4il@nlcnews.nlc.state.ne.us> <816910557snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> <498947$t0v@news.iii.net> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: microvst.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.29 In article <498947$t0v@news.iii.net> dts@peanut.senie.com "Daniel Senie" writes: > Tactical callsigns are commonplace in disaster and public service > communication. Use of tactical callsigns does not relieve the operator from > proper identification at the end of, or every 10 minutes during a > communication. It should be noted that the original question related only to what was heard on the output of a repeater. Nothing was said about what was heard or not heard directly from the net members' own transmissions, which is the only place where those IDs must be made and recognizable. Since the repeater itself was doubtless performing the necessary IDs for its own transmissions, any inference of improper operation is only guesswork. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:29 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!panix!not-for-mail From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: 27 Nov 1995 11:24:59 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Lines: 27 Message-ID: <49coor$33n@panix.com> References: <48q1n8$oib@crl.crl.com> <48qsst$eap@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: panix.com In <48qsst$eap@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> jbaltz@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Jerry B Altzman) writes: >In article <48q1n8$oib@crl.crl.com>, Clay Irving wrote: >>From the 1995 New York City Marathon Amateur Radio Operators Manual, >>page 3: >> >> "When initial logistical traffic lightens up the NCS will intiate >> a roll call. From that point on, only use your location as an >> identifier when you call into the net. i.e. "mile five to net" >> or "net from mile 21"." >That seems to be in direct violation of 97.119. Not that the FCC cares or >anything, but the principle is the thing, right? Or is there another >paragraph which states that you must ID every ten minutes anyway? I have an answer: The Deputy Chief of the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau of the FCC participates in the NYC Marathon communications, and he gives us a special waiver on the 10 minute ID to facilitate race communications -- It gets pretty busy on some of the nets when the race is on! I hope this answers the questions... -- - o - o Clay Irving (clay@panix.com), N2VKG o - o o AEC NYC ARES, New York County o - Deputy Radio Operator, NYC RACES, New York County - o - - Start --> http://www.panix.com/clay From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:30 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netcom.com!n1ist From: n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Message-ID: Organization: Utopia Planetia Shipyards - Mars References: Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:50:17 GMT Lines: 31 Sender: n1ist@netcom5.netcom.com In article wright@onramp.net (jeff wright) writes: [ID'ing at the Marathon] -Is it possible they were using the repeater to do the id'ing for them? Nope. Each transmitter must ID itself. - I assume the repeater id's every 10 minutes or less, either in code -or synthesized voice. All the repeaters were properly ID'ing their own transmitters; I just wasn't hearing any of the *other* stations ID'ing with their own calls, just the tactical calls. Since I wasn't directly monitoring those transmitters, it is possible that they were ID'ing with a different PL or something like that which wouldn't be passed thru the repeater. In any large event, tactical calls are extremely useful (even more useful than actual callsigns) to the operation of the net. That way there is no reason to remember which ham is stationed where; to talk to checkpoint 42, all you have to do is call checkpoint 42. FCC callsigns are required during the event because they are required by law, and to aid in identifying a transmission if needed (for interference or similar reasons). In my experience, the easiest way to satisfy both requirements is to sign out with "Checkpoint 42, N1IST clear" rather than just "Checkpoint 42 clear". It doesn't take much more net time, and makes everything legal. /mike -- \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST -*- ---------------------------------- /|\ n1ist@netcom.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:31 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: 27 Nov 1995 21:27:13 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 12 Message-ID: <49dafh$crt$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <48qsst$eap@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> >That seems to be in direct violation of 97.119.< No.... Part 97 allows the use of "tactical" call signs. You still m of course, observe the "10 minute rule" with your "real" call. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:32 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!bildin From: bildin@news.dorsai.org (Bill Hindin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: NYC Marathon question Date: 29 Nov 1995 08:00:51 GMT Organization: The Dorsai Emabssy Lines: 26 Message-ID: <49h3vj$q9@dorsai.dorsai.org> References: <48qsst$eap@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> <49dafh$crt$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dorsai.dorsai.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] : Much of this might be true, but Ralph Haller of the FCC has given the NYC : Marathon (and the communiations director, Steve Mendelsohn) a special : waiver to use tactical callsigns only. More on this will be posted FYI. : BILL (AA2TF) Hans Brakob (71111.260@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : >That seems to be in direct violation of 97.119.< : No.... Part 97 allows the use of "tactical" call signs. You still m : of course, observe the "10 minute rule" with your "real" call. : 73, de Hans, K0HB : -- : - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is : indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke : - - - Have you performed some magic this week? -- BILL HINDIN (AA2TF) INTERNET: BILDIN@DORSAI.ORG "Counselor Troy, meet me in my ready room..." From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.dorsai.org!bildin From: bildin@news.dorsai.org (Bill Hindin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NYC VE exams Date: 29 Nov 1995 08:08:49 GMT Organization: The Dorsai Emabssy Lines: 14 Message-ID: <49h4eh$q9@dorsai.dorsai.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: dorsai.dorsai.org X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] The next ARRL/VE testing by the BEARS club in NYC will be held on Monday, Dec.11 at the ABC building at 125 West End Avenue (66th street) at 5pm. No test will be started after 7pm. Cost is $5.90 (exact change appreciated). Bring any CSCE's, your original license and a photocopy and two pieces of ID. (at least one being a photo ID) The BEARS VE hotline for future testing is: 212-456-5224. Thank you. -- BILL HINDIN (AA2TF) INTERNET: BILDIN@DORSAI.ORG From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:33 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!wizard.pn.com!ci-pioneer!panda!bill.turner From: bill.turner@panda.org (BILL TURNER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Old Timers, need key parts Message-ID: <8B5A335.04B7000001.uuout@panda.org> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 95 13:41:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: PandA's Den BBS, Danvers, MA, USA (508) 750-0250 panda.org Reply-To: bill.turner@panda.org (BILL TURNER) X-Newsreader: PCBoard Version 15.22 X-Mailer: PCBoard/UUOUT Version 1.20 Lines: 17 MSGID: mid__DIM3xo.27H@eskimo.com 2cfd0001 REPLY: mid__495k3m$jqb@fohnix.metronet.com c950001 REPLYTO 1:330/317 UUCP REPLYADDR wrt@eskimo.com PID GIGO+ sn 395 at panda vsn 0.99.950801 From: wrt@eskimo.com (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Old Timers, need key parts Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Great subject line, I can identify with that.... 73, Bill W7LZP wrt@eskimo.com --- From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:34 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Postmortems needed on Hallicrafters, National,a nd Hammarlund Date: 27 Nov 1995 03:44:53 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <49bc7l$4tg@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <497u6b$9cf@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-006.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Simple.. 1. Japan bombs Pearl Harbor 2. United States bombs Japan 3. Japan bombs United States Steve, Wa2nhz From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:35 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!noc.near.net!usenet.continental.com!usenet From: "Paul Christensen, N9AZ" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Postmortems needed on Hallicrafters, National,a nd Hammarlund Date: 27 Nov 1995 15:13:57 GMT Organization: Continental Cablevision Lines: 7 Message-ID: <49ckjl$p8l@usenet.continental.com> References: <497u6b$9cf@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 169.152.167.70 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: rmmiller@ix.netcom.com Bob: When you finish your Masters thesis, I would love a copy of it. I'd be happy to pay for copying and postage. -Paul, N9AZ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: brutschy@ix.netcom.com (Marc Brutschy ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Shuttle Radio / Emergency Info Date: 27 Nov 1995 23:57:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 17 Message-ID: <49dj8s$22f@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-pl9-28.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Nov 27 3:57:16 PM PST 1995 Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.scanner:41174 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94813 Hi. I'm in the market for a radio which will allow me to: 1) Listen to space shuttle / mission control voice transmissions (I'm near Livermore, California... over a small mountain from the SF bay area). 2) Pick up emergency information after a natural disaster (an earthquake, in my case). Would a scanner or shortwave receiver be the best solution for me? Any suggestions about what I should look for will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Marc Brutschy ---------------------- brutschy@ix.netcom.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:36 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.cirrus.com!bug.rahul.net!a2i!sierra.net!nntp.foothill.net!usenet From: Bob Baker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: South Carolina needed for WAS Date: 27 Nov 1995 21:39:51 GMT Organization: RC Concepts, foothill.net Lines: 8 Message-ID: <49db77$ln2@madrone.foothill.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: watson-d243.foothill.net I need South Carolina in CW to finish my WAS. Would appreciate an email with a schedule for 20 meters from someone who would take the time to help me finish up after 25 years. Thanks Bob WA6MCT From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:37 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gate.net!gate.net!not-for-mail From: jaywward@gate.net (Jay Ward) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: THE biggest THE ham THE problem. Date: 27 Nov 1995 12:35:25 -0500 Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Lines: 11 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49csst$kuu@seminole.gate.net> References: <4835e9$ks1@alterdial.uu.net> <48vu6u$a1i@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> <49097l$ir4@alterdial.uu.net> <492p67$322@news1.halcyon.com> <492uus$ka7@alterdial.uu.net> <4967sr$cr2@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: seminole.gate.net X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Dave Ennes (NEBJ09A@prodigy.com) wrote: : I have to agree. I have never been involved with a group that was more : helpful to me when I showed a little interest in ham radio. Maybe it : depends where you are. : : N7DTD : More likely who you are. KE4ZOG From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:38 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Unik Bill? Date: 28 Nov 1995 11:09:28 GMT Lines: 20 Message-ID: <49eql8$443@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <8057-284352501@inferno.com> <49dn7i$4mr@cc.iu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: wnewkirk@iu.net wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) wrote: > >yeah, at least Mike's on topic whereas burt needs some direction to find the >alt.sex.* groups... > >Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Unlike you I would at least have S O M E interest in that subject. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:39 1995 Message-ID: <364663@280.chatlink.com> From: Gandolff@sys280.chatlink.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!redstone.interpath.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess Date: 21 Nov 1995 12:56:28 PST Subject: Re: Unliscensed use Lines: 4 ain't that the darndest truth wayne n1off From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:40 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.infi.net!jrouse From: jrouse@infi.net (John Rouse / Capital Gazette) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: VP2FOC Date: 28 Nov 1995 13:19:50 GMT Organization: InfiNet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <49f29m$aam@news.infi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: larry.infi.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] You worked VP2EOC in Anguilla, I believe... 73, John KA3DBN -- John L. Rouse Packet: ka3dbn@ka3rfe.md.usa.noa Capital-Gazette Communications FAX: 301-464-7027 jrouse@dc.infi.net Phone: 301-262-3700 jrouse@ix.netcom.com 410-268-5000 From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:41 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsjunkie.ans.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.ultranet.com!usenet From: sr@ultranet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: VP2FOC Date: 29 Nov 1995 01:21:28 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <49gcio$lam@caesar.ultra.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: afco.ultranet.com X-Newsreader: AIR News 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) > pwang@tornado.seas.ucla.edu (Paul K.C. Wang) writes: > Last weekend I worked VP2FOC in the CQWW CW contest. My CT9 software did > not recognize the prefix VP2F. Is this a new DXCC country or I copied > the call incorrectly? Tnx. > Paul (KU6T) > >>>> Paul, Suggest you may have worked VP5FOC. I had QSO's on 15, 20, and 40. Steve AA1IZ From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:42 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!sun4nl!inter.nl.net!waasdorp From: Coen Waasdorp Subject: Re: What does "Q5" mean? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: ldn99-7.leiden.nl.net Message-ID: <3vRDFAA5V2uwEwMA@inter.nl.net> Sender: news@inter.NL.net (News at news) Organization: NL Net X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 1.06 References: <48t7cl$1kmr@ns3-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> <48vjat$6f7$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> <49fiq4$ls7@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 19:39:37 GMT Lines: 40 In article <49fiq4$ls7@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, John Byrnes writes >Hans Brakob (71111.260@CompuServe.COM) wrote: >> >> - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is >> indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke > > >I recently purchased a Yaesu FT-11R, a tiny 2m HT. I was pretty impressed >and was reminded of the above quote. After hefting the user's manual for >a day or two I was reminded of the following quote: > > > "A modern U.S. Navy cruiser now requires 26 tons of manuals. This is > enough to affect the vessel's performance." > -- David Mankins > > >Which of course, leads to my quote :-) > > > "Any sufficiently advanced technology will have documentation that is > larger and heavier than itself." > -- John Byrnes > >73, > >KB0UNC > John, PMFJI, allow me to "cientificy" this quote as follows" " Any sufficiently advanced technology will have documentation that is to the power of two in in seize and weight to itself". Really liked your quote!!!! -- Coen Waasdorp From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:43 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!usc!newshub.cts.com!usenet From: forsberg@cts.com (Bruce W. Forsberg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: What radars on 900 MHz ? Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 05:57:54 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <30bd3ef6.4214340@news2.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: forsberg.cts.com We are having problems locally in San Diego with our ATV repeater on the 900 Mhz band. The input is being torn up by radar. I was wondering if anyone knows what radars are present on the 900 MHz band. We are guessing that it is some sort of Navy radar. Possibily ship based. If anyone has any ideas they would be appreciated. The scan rate on the radar is about 5 seconds with a PRI of about 5 ms. From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!EU.net!Norway.EU.net!nntp-oslo.UNINETT.no!nntp-trd.UNINETT.no!nac.no!ifi.uio.no!news.sics.se!eua.ericsson.se!erinews.ericsson.se!usenet From: ebcjoon@ebc.ericsson.se Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radion.shortwave Subject: Where to find morsetraining program to Amiga. Date: 27 Nov 1995 16:15:52 GMT Organization: Ericsson Lines: 5 Distribution: world Message-ID: <49co7p$k96@erinews.ericsson.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: ebcp1043.ebc.ericsson.se X-Newsreader: Where can I find a morsetraining program to my A500. Please send your answer to: d94-jer@nada.kth.se /Johan Eriksson From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:44 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.sandia.gov!tesuque.cs.sandia.gov!ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov!newshost.lanl.gov!mamie.lanl.gov!user From: tjf@beta.lanl.gov (Thomas J. Farish) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Where to find morsetraining program to Amiga. Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radion.shortwave Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 13:19:00 -0700 Organization: LANL Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <49co7p$k96@erinews.ericsson.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: mamie.lanl.gov In article <49co7p$k96@erinews.ericsson.se>, ebcjoon@ebc.ericsson.se wrote: > Where can I find a morsetraining program to my A500. > > Please send your answer to: d94-jer@nada.kth.se > > /Johan Eriksson I have a heavily modified version of "SendMorse" that will send code from a text file at various speeds. It has some bugs, but got me past 18 wpm. If I get enough requests, I'll ask someone to put it up on a www site. If not, I can email a compressed and uuencoded file. -- Thomas J. Farish, ScD tjf@beta.lanl.gov KJ5LT I don't speak for LANL and they don't speak for me. PGP public key available upon request From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:46 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Will the ignorant inherit Date: 26 Nov 1995 23:17:05 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <49ashh$ltn@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <499mhl$28q@alterdial.UU.NET> <38108.11.uupcb@totrbbs.radio.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) phil.heaton@totrbbs.radio.org (Phil Heaton) wrote: >Phil: "Hey Maw...stop churnin' that butter and come look at this >heah computer pitcher tube...you odda see hal fast at tire Mr. >Fisher came back and boy he shore slammed me!" >Phil: "Eye-ite, Maw...ah shore will!" > >Phil, KE4KRT 1.You sure can write well. 2.You have original thoughts. 3.You will not be appreciated here by hardly anyone. 4.Even though you flamed me with a jet engine I respect a good shot, and boy was yours ever a good shot. With all that ability why the hell would you want to be a boring ham? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:47 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Gareth Crispell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Will the ignorant inherit Date: 27 Nov 1995 05:00:40 GMT Organization: Craigville Conference Center Lines: 22 Message-ID: <49bglo$k1t@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <499mhl$28q@alterdial.UU.NET> <38108.11.uupcb@totrbbs.radio.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: s204.ccsnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) Wow!!!! Absolutely incredible Phil! I really enjoyed your post. Say, do you all boys down at maw's place know any kids named "Billy Baaaaaa"? N1MSV -- ..as for the mysteries of the Universe...they knew them not... And in the time of their visitation they shall shine, and run to and fro like sparks among the stubble. gareth e-mail stranger@ccsnet.com From Unknown Thu Nov 30 12:20:48 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!alterdial.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Will the ignorant inherit ham radio? Date: 26 Nov 1995 12:28:37 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <499mhl$28q@alterdial.UU.NET> References: <4986ik$e6e@alterdial.UU.NET> <38064.11.uupcb@totrbbs.radio.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.172.47.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) To: phil.heaton@totrbbs.radio.org phil.heaton@totrbbs.radio.org (Phil Heaton) wrote: >I can't bad-mouth it, but since info week mag >has devoted (it seems) a column per each issue on it's >bugs, I'd rather stay away from it. Strange I have used it, beat it abused it since Aug 28, no bugs and no lockups like on Win 3.1. I thought REAL hams tried things instead off playing it safe? In any event Win 95 is quite safe. >Phil, KE4KRT > >Micro$oft - What Bill's wife knows about Bill... Shows your class, jealously and high level of intellect. I have seen his wife but not yours. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | The less you say, the more people will remember | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:07 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!cyberspace.com!news.uoregon.edu!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLX070 ETO agrees to merger Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 28 Nov 1995 15:57:28 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 43 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlx070.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10457 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94936 SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX070 ARLX070 ETO agrees to merger ZCZC AX40 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 70 ARLX070 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT November 28, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX070 ARLX070 ETO agrees to merger A merger between Ehrhorn Technological Operations (ETO), Inc, and Applied Science and Technology, Inc, will not affect ETO's position in the Amateur Radio market, according to ETO Chairman Dick Ehrhorn, W4ETO. Applied Science and Technology (ASTeX), of Woburn, Massachusetts, makes systems for making industrial diamonds and semiconductor materials. ETO makes high power RF products, including ALPHA linear amplifiers for amateurs. Ehrhorn said ''ETO's people, technologies and products strongly complement those of ASTeX. Our combined capabilities extend from dc to microwave and up to 75 kW. ''Delivery commitments and warranty service for ETO-ALPHA Amateur Radio products are not affected,'' Ehrhorn said. ''ETO continues to operate from its Colorado Springs location with no anticipated changes in personnel. Ray Heaton remains the primary sales and service contact for Amateur Radio customers. ''In fact,'' Ehrhorn said, ''We're looking for ways to serve our Amateur Radio customers even better.'' In 1995, ASTeX had fiscal sales of about 20 million dollars, according to an ETO press release. ETO reported its sales for the nine months ended September 30, 1995, at more than 10 million dollars. NNNN /EX From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:08 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.packet.net!news.combase.com!imci3!imci2!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pacbell.com!pb2esac!jaminge From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can I use my radio in Canada? Date: 29 Nov 1995 23:52:39 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell, ESAC Lines: 24 Message-ID: <49iro7$bs0@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <49fnis$63j@crc-news.doc.ca> <817632578.21455snx@genes.pl.my> <49ig16$nag@news.sas.ab.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <49ig16$nag@news.sas.ab.ca>, wrote: >Eugene Kang (wired@genes.pl.my) wrote: >: > >: >I can't resist... If the agreement was sitting, would there be any difference?> > >: Yep. The agreement wouldn't be standing. :) >From a digital POV, there would be no difference. If the agreement was >lying down, I supose one could argue that it a) dead, b) resting or c) >comotose, but would it be in effect? Or just ineffective? How can one resist? Reminds me of the question: "Do they have a fourth of July in England?" (Well, yes, but........) ;-) -- ___________________________________________________________________________ John A Minger KE6DTC Opinions expressed are those of the author Los Angeles, CA and not those of anyone or anything else. From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:09 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!richcon!richard.hernandez From: richard.hernandez@richcon.com (Richard Hernandez) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Cw tutor Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 02:49:00 GMT Message-ID: <95113000302418430@richcon.com> Organization: The Richmond Connection BBS (804)740-1364 Distribution: world References: <49dath$95v@antares.en.com> Lines: 33 MI>Anyone know of a good shareware code tutor for the computer and where I coul MI>ind MI>it? Mike, I'm currently using a program called NewMorse 1.3 This is a windows program which interfaces with my sound card. It works really well. I downloaded it from America On Line. I've also seen it in WWW in various places. Just look around. If your board has a file list look around they may have it. The above file is too large for me to zip up and send to you as an attachment but I have a dos program that I can zip and send to you (if you are capable of receiving attached files with your mail). This program worked really well also, only it does not interface with a sound card. When working on higher speed practice sessions I've found it much easier to have head phones on (specially with kids around). If you can't find the NuMorse file let me know your mailing address (post office) and I'll be glad to send you a floppy N/C. Good luck Richard KC4QBQ Richard.Hernandez@richcon.com --- * OLX 2.1 TD * Get refreshed and ready Psalm 139 From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:10 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!usenet.seri.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.net!news.cybercomm.net!usenet From: Stephan Rashkin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 30 Nov 1995 03:56:48 GMT Organization: CyberComm Online Services Lines: 38 Message-ID: <49ja20$1n9@crow.cybercomm.net> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <49g8mp$9dr@crow.cybercomm.net> <49ihbr$1adu@chnews.ch.intel.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sl-017.sl.cybercomm.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) When a person works hard for something and succeeds, its value is more important to them. I've operated on 75 for years and most of the problems come from those call-less or ball-less wonders that don't have hf privileges, and those that just make them up or use OPC. Two of them were recently caught in Massachusetts and one in Virginia.. Hundreds of thousands of people have successfully passed their code tests and have upgraded to whatever they desired..I am not necessarily against another class of license allowing limited operation on hf, but these whining little cry babies that want to discount all the work and time hundreds of thousands have gone through and make it mean nothing sends a message of "screw it why bother to work for anything, it'll be free soon" and I'm not just limiting it to radio--.. It just cracks me up to see a few whining babies slobbering all over their keyboards...My impression of them is laziness and potential career welfare recipients..who cares whether you like cw..who cares whether you ever use it again. Yeah it's a primitive form of communication, it's kinda like learning how to build a fire in the scouts without matches, or even having to memorize the little scouts oath. I think of cw as just a little initiation that may someday come in handy. It separates the requirement-less CB level from the amateur radio level. For all the man-hour whining I have heard out of Drew, he probably would have been able to decode Amtor in his head by now.. Take a damn vitamin E or something.. Again I reiterate, especially to Drew: Waaaaa! Waaaaa! Waaaa! What an EXTRA Class Cry Baby Steve, Wa2nhz From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:11 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!wlbr!frankensun.altair.com!sdd.hp.com!usc!ccnet.com!rwilkins From: rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fri) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ? Date: 30 Nov 1995 10:26:07 GMT Organization: home in the cAVe Lines: 33 Message-ID: <49k0rv$656@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <30bd3ef6.4214340@news2.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ccnet3 Bruce W. Forsberg (forsberg@cts.com) recently wrote in <30bd3ef6.4214340@news2.cts.com>: : We are having problems locally in San Diego with our ATV repeater on : the 900 Mhz band. The input is being torn up by radar. I was wondering : if anyone knows what radars are present on the 900 MHz band. We are : guessing that it is some sort of Navy radar. Possibily ship based. If : anyone has any ideas they would be appreciated. The scan rate on the : radar is about 5 seconds with a PRI of about 5 ms. You are probably seeing a Part 15 data network. They are operating at one watt using spread spectrum. Many of these data transmitters are on pole tops or buildings. You might be experiancing the primary user of our 902 band, the automatic vehicle locating service. Pacific Teletrac operates high power wide band digital data from multiple mtn tops to track fleets of vehicles all over southern California. Good luck trying to run an AM video system in all that noise! You might want to operate on 1240+ MHz or digitize your video on 902. For some information on 902 MHz Part 15 data networks you might try browsing http://www.metricom.com/ http://www.qualcom.com/ Bob -- Bob Wilkins home n6fri@uhf.org Berkeley, California work bwilkins@cave.org 94712-2354 play n6fri@n6eeg.#nocal.ca.usa.noam From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:12 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newshub.cts.com!news1.crl.com!nntp.crl.com!decwrl!pa.dec.com!depot.mro.dec.com!mrnews.mro.dec.com!est.enet.dec.com!randolph From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3.88 MHz sounded like CB tonight: Could be Bur Date: 30 NOV 95 10:43:34 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 24 Message-ID: <49kjar$83s@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <496632$96o@castle.nando.net> <498888$k80$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> <49fgud$2pt@cis.clark.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pida.enet.dec.com In article <49fgud$2pt@cis.clark.edu>, jamesd@clark.edu (James A Doty) writes... >I think you should reconsider. Most of my friends who are hams have >Tech Plus tickets, some have No-Code Tech tickets, and a couple have >Advanced tickets. The only difference I've noticed is how much they >know about all aspects of ham radio. None of my friends who hold Tech >Plus tickets and lower are any less competent than my friends who are >General class operators and higher. I'd have to agree that license class doesn't tell you much of anything. There's a ham that I work with who's been licensed for decades, and has forgotten more about radio than I know. He's Advanced, I'm Extra. Another, who used to work here but has since moved on, builds and maintains repeaters and links for one of the local clubs. He's Tech+. His job here was developing IC package models using time-domain reflectometry. The only valid bozo filter is exams that genuinely test radio and electronics knowledge. Our current multiple-guess system doesn't necessarily do that. Now, I like CW, it's a fun mode, but I don't have any illusions about it being a filter or commitment tester. I think we should still teach it because it is a simple, handy means of communicating, but the need for it is gone. Military, Coast Guard, MARS, everybody has abandoned it for better modes. -Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:13 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!online!wb3ffv!news.cais.net!news.intr.net!news.charm.net!news From: Globber Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 2m.70cm Antenna for 95 Firebird T/A Date: 30 Nov 1995 14:33:18 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <49kfbe$reg@canton.charm.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: scriptor.cprinc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 32bit) can anyone suggest a antenna for 2m.70cm for this car. Iam having trouble finding one that looks good on the car. glass mount would be find if not to tall? Gain not that important. Thanks N3TFL From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:14 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!news.kreonet.re.kr!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!news From: Zack Lau Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contesting Date: 30 Nov 1995 15:21:14 GMT Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 8 Message-ID: <49ki5a$48d@mgate.arrl.org> References: <49e1u0$9ac_003@news.erie.net> <49gd7n$96r@alterdial.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 16bit) Burt Fisher wrote: >Ham radio and sports do not in any way go together. Sports Illustrated thought otherwise! From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:15 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: How to clean up the ham bands? Message-ID: <1995Nov30.155601.4461@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems References: <49fq8n$cqi@news.cc.oberlin.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 15:56:01 GMT Lines: 58 In article <49fq8n$cqi@news.cc.oberlin.edu> pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu writes: >Although I change frequencies when I come across hams using >profane, obscene language I wonder where, and how, the "self- >policing" hams are supposed to do comes into play? Do we >break into the conversation, reminding the errant hams about >Part 97, or just leave them alone? As for illegal activities >conducted on the ham bands, activities which I've heard are >rampant especially out west, it would prove dangerous or fatal >to DF and get physically anywhere near such criminals, but >that's another story. I, for one, would dearly love to hear >a return to civility and clean language, and want to do what >I can to help bring this about, besides setting a good example, >that is... Any thoughts on this? --Bill KB8USZ >pruth@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu Self-policing means essentially policing *yourself*, IE making sure *you* obey the rules. If each of us does that, then things are lovely. Unfortunately, there are those who will not self-police. Those people need to be other-policed. The primary other-policeman is the FCC, but they haven't been doing much of a job of it lately. The Amateur Auxillary and the Official Observers are volunteer amateur other-policemen. While they have no real authority, they do ocasionally extert some influence directly on amateur behavior, and indirectly through motivating the FCC to act. Our most effective other-policing, however, is peer pressure. One of the more powerful tools of peer pressure is the shunning. By simply refusing to interact with those who we believe are behaving badly, we can have an influence on them. (This is most effective if it is a group effort.) A more direct tactic is to reprimand the miscreant *off the air*. A letter to his callbook address, or a telephone call, can sometimes have an effect. Again, a group effort in this direction can be helpful. Don't threaten or flame, simply express your disappointment in regard to their improper behavior, and ask them to improve. Don't confront a persistent miscreant on the air. This offers them the attention their sick minds desire. And don't stoop to their level by jamming or otherwise flaming them on the air. That too is the type of attention that they crave. For persistent problem children, enlist the aid of the Amateur Auxillary. They can sometimes influence the FCC to step in. Complaining directly to the FCC is generally a waste of time, unless you happen to have an in with someone at the FCC. Now some people may be inadvertently breaking a regulation or overstepping a custom, and a kindly word will usually be sufficient to steer them back in the right direction. This is a judgement call, but is the only time you should attempt to correct behavior over the air. Mostly you should exert your good influence by being a proper role model. People naturally emulate those whom they admire. If you act in an admirable manner, people will follow suit. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:16 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!cssun.mathcs.emory.edu!emory!darwin.sura.net!news.er.usgs.gov!stc06.ctd.ornl.gov!usenet From: Walter Zorn <1wz@ornl.gov> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What radars on 900 MHz ? Date: 30 Nov 1995 16:15:54 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Lines: 15 Message-ID: <49klbq$8dp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> References: <30bd3ef6.4214340@news2.cts.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.219.22.0 forsberg@cts.com (Bruce W. Forsberg) wrote: > > We are having problems locally in San Diego with our ATV repeater on > the 900 Mhz band. The input is being torn up by radar. I was wondering > if anyone knows what radars are present on the 900 MHz band. We are > guessing that it is some sort of Navy radar. Possibily ship based. If > anyone has any ideas they would be appreciated. The scan rate on the > radar is about 5 seconds with a PRI of about 5 ms. Hummmm. I seem to recall some discussion of sharing the top of the 440 MHz Band with some Radar Systems, perhaps a Doppler profiler. Perhaps, if you looked at half of the ATV freq. you may find the foe near or in that band. 73, KF0OS From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:17 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.ahc.ameritech.com!news.heurikon.com!news.dpc.net!novia!news.inc.net!news.sol.net!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!night.primate.wisc.edu!kbad.eglin.af.mil!rpi!library.erc.clarkson.edu!curryds From: curryds@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (David S. Curry KG2EB) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Can a Green Card holder be a ham? Date: 30 Nov 1995 16:47:09 GMT Organization: Clarkson University Lines: 5 Message-ID: <49kn6d$mqi@library.erc.clarkson.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: craft.camp.clarkson.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Can an English Citizen with a Green Card in the US become a ham? Tnx in advance 73 David KG2EB From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:18 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.yab.com!wierius!stat!nntpdist.primenet.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.asu.edu!news.eas.asu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!brighton.openmarket.com!decwrl!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!mgate.arrl.org!usenet From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLX072 W2AN special event Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc Date: 30 Nov 1995 18:28:13 -0500 Organization: American Radio Relay League Lines: 22 Sender: root@mgate.arrl.org Approved: mtracy@arrl.org Message-ID: <$arlx072.1995@ampr.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: mgate.arrl.org Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.info:10463 rec.radio.amateur.misc:94946 SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX072 ARLX072 W2AN special event ZCZC AX42 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 72 ARLX072 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT November 30, 1995 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX072 ARLX072 W2AN special event W2AN will be on the air as a special event station on Saturday, December 2, and Saturday, December 9, from 7 PM EST to midnight. The transmitter, restored by the Antique Wireless Association, was used for transatlantic contacts in 1921. Listen for its bell-like tone on or near 1815 kHz. QSL via AWA, 59 Main St, Bloomfield, NY 14469. NNNN /EX From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:19 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!psgrain!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Just supposin' Date: 30 Nov 1995 19:13:42 GMT Organization: MicroBurst Lines: 26 Message-ID: <49kvp6$tu$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Xref: news.epix.net rec.radio.amateur.misc:94954 rec.radio.amateur.policy:32087 Putting aside all the arguments which have raged here since Marconi was a Novice -- (in other words, deactivate your flame thrower, and substitute brainpower for firepower.) Just supposing-- 1) WARC 99 removed the Morse requirement from Amateur Service regulations, and; 2) FCC then decided to amend US regulations to remove the Morse requirement from Part 97. And assuming-- 1) A beginners (entry class) license is desireable, and; 2) A system of encouragement and recognition of advanced knowledge and/or skills is desireable. What recommendations would you make for changes in the testing and licensing structure for licensees in the US Amateur Radio Service? -- 73, de Hans, K0HB -- - - - "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistiguishable from magic." A.C.Clarke - - - Have you performed some magic this week? From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:20 1995 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsie.dmc.com!spdcc!dhunt From: dhunt@ursa-major.spdcc.com (Dave Hunt) Subject: Re: Contesting Message-ID: Lines: 11 Sender: dhunt@spdcc.com (Dave Hunt) Reply-To: dhunt@ursa-major.spdcc.com Organization: Counihan & Hunt, Ltd. References: <49gd7n$96r@alterdial.UU.NET> <49huc4$avu$1@mhafm.production.compuserve.com> <49jb5h$mre@alterdial.UU.NET> Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 19:23:52 GMT An activity need not be athletic to be called a "sport"; consider fishing or stock car racing. Would you be satisfied if t-hunters ran with their locators in stead of driving? Some do. CQ CQ CQ CONTEST, -- Dave Hunt, Amateur Radio: wx1g Voice: (617)266-9716 ext 27 Fax: (617) 437-0456 Web: http://www.spdcc.com/home/dhunt/index.html From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:21 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.magicnet.net!nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov!news.iag.net!tous!pagesat.net!a3bsrv.nai.net!usenet From: stockmal@nai.net (Stockmal) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL info: A92M, 3DA0NX, Date: 30 Nov 1995 20:53:12 GMT Organization: MAD Labs Lines: 13 Message-ID: <49l5jo$84k@a3bsrv.nai.net> Reply-To: stockmal@usa.nai.net NNTP-Posting-Host: naidp25.nai.net X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Hello, Thanks for reading my article. I worked A92M during the CQ WW CW Contest. If anyone has his or the 3DA0NX pse send it to me. I know that the 3DA0NX is via a ZS6? I don't remeber the call;however, this call isn't in the '96 callbook. TU de Phil, N1TMG ************************************************************************ The Stockmal Household......................stockmal@usa.nai.net Alex, Helen, and Phil Middle Atlantic District Labs - MAD Labs I didn't like it and I didn't inhale it... (President Clinton) ************************************************************************ From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:22 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!europa.chnt.gtegsc.com!news.kreonet.re.kr!news.dacom.co.kr!newsfeed.internetmci.com!lamarck.sura.net!news.uky.edu!news From: Steve Fricker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Cable Routing to Outside Date: 30 Nov 1995 21:27:35 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <49l7k7$2ls@service2.uky.edu> References: <49kdm1$8u3@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.163.93.135 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) I saw a neat job done by routing the cables through a PVC pipe (obvisously requiring a hole!)...then take a PVC cap, drill cable-sized appropriate holes...next step: cut the cap in two, slip the two halves over the cable(s) then clamp'em together with a hose clamp like you use on your car's heater hose. --Steve (rsfric00@ukcc.uky.edu) N4STI michaelc@mikeport.raleigh.ibm.com wrote: >Does anyone have any good ideas about getting cables from the >inside to the outside? I would like to hear from anyone that >has methods of doing this WITHOUT major/visible holes in the >wall or floor. I have access to a window if that helps. > >ANY AND ALL IDEAS WELCOME! > >73, de KB4LFH >Michael Crowder >kb4lfh@vnet.ibm.com > From Unknown Fri Dec 01 20:28:24 1995 Path: news.epix.net!news.sprintlink.net!gatech2!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!newsfeed.internetmci.com!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway From: William_A._Kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.COM (William A. Kirsanoff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NYC Marathon question Date: 30 Nov 95 22:14:45 GMT Organization: ucsd usenet gateway Lines: 81 Message-ID: <9510308177.AA817769385@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu On: 29 Nov 1995 15:32:19 -0500 clay@panix.com (Clay Irving) wrote: >In <49coor$33n@panix.com> clay@panix.com (Clay Irving) writes: >>In <48qsst$eap@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> jbaltz@watsun.cc.columbia.edu >>(Jerry B Altzman) writes: >>>In article <48q1n8$oib@crl.crl.com>, Clay Irving >>>wrote: >>>>From the 1995 New York City Marathon Amateur Radio Operators Manual, >>>>page 3: >>>> >>>> "When initial logistical traffic lightens up the NCS will intiate >>>> a roll call. From that point on, only use your location as an >>>> identifier when you call into the net. i.e. "mile five to net" >>>> or "net from mile 21"." [stuff deleted] >>I have an answer: The Deputy Chief of the Wireless Telecommunications >>Bureau of the FCC participates in the NYC Marathon communications, and >>he gives us a special waiver on the 10 minute ID to facilitate race >>communications -- It gets pretty busy on some of the nets when the >>race is on! >>I hope this answers the questions... >Well, I thought it answered all the questions... >I received additional clarification from Steve Mendelsohn, WA2DHF, >Communications Director of the NYC Marathon: > I re-read Part 97 and discovered that the ID rules have, indeed, >changed since last I looked. > What we had been doing was to tell people to id -- on low power on >the repeater output -- based on the fact that the rules, pre-1994 had >no language about where one had to ID, they only said you had to ID. >So ...... > I specifically spoke with Ralph Haller, Deputy Chief of the Wireless >Telecom Bureau, and he looked and said that the rules had been changed >to require all ID on the transmit channel. > Therefore - starting in 1996 the Marathon NCS on all nets will tell >all stations to ID simultaneously every 10 minutes. >Thanks to everyone who provided input -- You made a difference. Clay, and others with a similar event situation, may I recommend a simpler procedure: Stations contact net control (and visa-versa) using their tactical callsign. At the end of the traffic, clear with the tactical followed by the operator's FCC callsign. Event traffic is generally less than 10 minutes, so all part 97 requirements have been met. A sample: M5: "Net control, Mile five." NC: "Mile five." M5: "We have a runner down at this location, number 1234, male, 45 years old, pain in his right knee." NC: "OK. Medics enroute, ETA 5 minutes. Net Control W2XYZ." M5: "Mile Five, KA2ABC." 73 ________________________________________________________________________ Wm. A. 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