*+*+**+*›       MINUTES APRIL 1992 MEETING›       ==========================››     ALEX showed us a printout of some›of  what  is available on the NEW NEST›International BBS (516 234-4943). From›BBS  BASE #19, KAJ DE VOS from Holland›writes to JIM HARRIS. He  decried  the›support  of the ATARI computers in the›USA. In Europe the ST is much stronger›and  better   supported.   The   8-Bit›support  is  disappearing  rapidly. He›has been programming the ST as a  file›server  for  the  8-Bit  Atari.  What,›another  slave  for  the  little 8 BIT›ATARI, like the  IBM  clone  owned  by›ALAN SHARKIS? ››     ALEX  read us the message he sent›to WOLFGANG BURGER of ABBUC in Germany›on  the BBS. He told him that a friend›of theirs JOE KENNEDY, past  president›of J.A.C.G., and a member of ABBUC, is›coming to Germany. Perhaps he  can  be›of  help  in  translating  some of the›excellent   German    programs    into›English.››     NIBBLES  &   BYTES   March   1992›mentioned  our  Newsletter.  They said›"this is a great disk that  shows  the›talents of this user group...". Thanks›fellows     your    compliments    are›appreciated!››     HAROLD PEGLER our Disk  Librarian›received  a  standing  ovation for the›great job he has been doing  with  the›disk library.››     AIM  MAGAZINE  April  1992.  They›reviewed  our  DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.›ELLEN LENTZ gave us a great review and›we  thank  AIM  Magazine and ELLEN for›it.››     THE SAGE SCROLL  from  Eire  P.A.›March  1992  issue.  They reprinted an›article by our STAN  SCHENFELD  called›PROGRAMMING  FOR BEGINNERS. On page 16›they reviewed the PROGRAMMING  KIT  by›our  own   RON   FETZER.   Thank   you›fellows.››     SAN  LEANDRO  CLUB in California.›In their feature POUNDING  ON  THE  8-›BITS  by  BOB WOOLLEY he dedicates his›article to  the  OL'  HACKERS.  Thanks›BOB!››     ACE  OF SYRACUSE March 1992 issue›said that TOM FECTEAU will review  the›DISK  MANAGEMENT SYSTEM and demo it at›the April Meeting. Thank you TOM! They›also  have  an announcement expressing›sympathy on the death of our own  KRIS›HOLTEGAARD.››     From JACG the January 1992 issue.›They   devote   an   article  on  KRIS›HOLTEGAARD  and  his  accomplishments.›They also have an obituary on KRIS  in›the same issue.› ›CORRESPONDENCE:››     A  letter  from  BEN POEHLAND. He›writes us  that  the  contractors  are›finished  rebuilding  his house. He is›working very hard on the mail campaign›to  start  up a NEW 8-BIT MAGAZINE. So›far   BEN   has   mailed   out   1,400›information  kits  and there is no end›in   sight.   The  campaign  has  been›extended to  APRIL  15  and  has  been›extended GLOBALLY. Kits have been sent›to Canada, Great Britain, New Zealand,›Autralia,  Korea, Algeria and Austria.›He said that  exhaustion  is  settling›in.  The campaign is also running over›budget. BEN  estimated  he  has  spent›over  $1,200  on this campaign so far.›The returns as of March 15  were  less›than  expected.  He  writes  us   that›someday  he will make a surprise visit›to our club. We welcome you BEN!›     BEN sent us a later  postcard  in›which he writes that the mail campaign›is finally winding down. He  sent  out›1,510  kits,  12,000   zerox',   5,000›labels  and  paid  $1,300  of  his own›money. He says he  is  exhausted.  BEN›your  efforts  on  behalf of the 8-Bit›community is HERCULEAN. It  cannot  be›compensated  in  any  way.   The   OL'›HACKERS  appreciate  it  and thank you›for it very much, and so should  every›8 BIT'er.››     A  letter  to  HARRY TUTHILL from›GINA BRYANT our  member  in  Virginia.›She sends greetings to all of us. MIKE›(sailor) BRYANT  is  on  his  ship  in›PUERTO  RICO.  GINA writes us that she›bought another 130XE for $50.00.  GINA›is  now  becoming  very handy with the›computer. She really is an OL'  HACKER›now!  She  replaced the springs on the›keyboard on the 800XL.  For  those  of›you  who want to write to MIKE here is›his address: FC-1 MICHAEL BRYANT,  USS›MILWAUKEE, AOR-2, FBO AE09578-3024.››     JOE  KENNEDY  he  ex-president of›JACG, and also a member  of  ABBUC  in›Germany,  is  going  to  Germany. ALEX›sent  him  some  literature  that  SAM›COREY   our  member  from  New  Jersey›forwarded to  ALEX  for  JOE  to  take›along to ABBUC and WOLFGANG BURGER.››     A  letter,  and  disk  from   TOM›ANDREWS  our member from Manlius, N.Y.›He posted the  last  two  OL'  HACKERS›NEWSLETTERS  on  the  ACE  OF SYRACUSE›BBS. He arc-ed them into one file.  He›felt  that  in  this  way a NON member›could see what they  are  missing!  At›ACE  they  have received many inquires›from people who  picked  up  an  8-Bit›system  and  now they want to know how›to use it. TOM made a suggestion  that›we  should  write  a  beginners  8-Bit›manual for all of these people.››     ALEX responded to him and thanked›him for his disks.  TOM's  Gemini  10X›printer  prints  like  brand  new. TOM›bought it for $25.00 at a garage sale.›He  informed  TOM  that  we  have only›about one half of  the  club  using  a›modem.  No  one  is  on  GENIE.   ALEX›thanked him his programming updates.››     A  letter  from  BRUCE  WILLIS of›MAGIC. He sent us the March and  April›1992  Disks  of  the   Month.   Thanks›BRUCE.››     ALEX  responded by thanking BRUCE›for the disks and informing  him  that›they  can  use  anything  out  of  our›newsletter  for  their  own  on   disk›newsletter››     A  letter  from  JIM  CUTTLER our›member from England. He writes us  and›compliments us on our newsletter disk.›He also sent us a few new  disks  from›England.››     ALEX  responded  by informing JIM›that if he wants some disks  from  our›library  he  should notify us and they›will be sent to him.››     A letter from ROLAND GRANT of the›GARDEN  CITY  ACE, in Victoria British›Colombia. ROLAND sent us some more  of›JOHN  PICKEN'S  great articles that we›can reprint if we want to. JOHN PICKEN›is    one   of   the   premier   8-Bit›programmers from Canada. He is the one›who  updated  Turbo   Basic   to   run›correctly  in  North  America.  ROLAND›said he sent us these articles because›"THE OL' HACKERS IS SIGNIFICANT IN THE›8-BIT COMMUNITY".››     ALEX  responded  that  this  is a›letter from heaven for an editor. ALEX›thanked  him  for this great offer, an›he told ROWLAND that  now  that  there›are  very  few  commercial sources for›our computer, the Newsletters are  the›only  real  source of information. Our›newsletter translates from  25  to  28›pages  of  information.  This  is more›information than when ANTIC or  ANALOG›were publishing.››     A  letter  from  SPECTRUM - ATARI›GROUP OF ERIE, PA - R. P. BAUMAN  SAGE›PUBLICATION    DIRECTOR.    They   are›starting up a newsletter on disk. They›said    they   will   have   lots   of›information from  our  disk  on  their›disk.  He said there has not been much›response to help from his members.  It›may  be  only  a temporary thing. They›will sell it to the members for $3.00.›They  will  use our newsletter program›format. He tells us that he sold  only›one disk. He may not continue doing it›because of the poor response.››     ALEX responded by telling BOB not›to  let  it   get   him   down .   His›newsletter  is  great.  It  is a shame›if  his club  does not appreciate  it.›ALEX  suggested  that he cut the price›to $2.00. It is a  bargain.  They  are›getting  the equivalent of 25 pages of›ATARI 8 BIT information. NOTE: OUR OWN›MEMBERS GET OUR NEWSLETTER FREE!››     We received a letter and  a  disk›from  France  with  no  legible return›address. We would like to respond  but›are  not  able to do it. We gave it to›BOB ULSCHMID for someone with a French›background  to  decipher.  The  letter›said he read our newsletter and he had›trouble with a Ramdisk.››     A letter from LARRY TISHBEIN  our›member  from Qakertown, PA. He thanked›ALEX for helping him  with  1ST  XLEnt›Word  Processor.  He   said   he   has›benefitted  many   times   over   from›belonging  to  the  OL'  HACKERS  even›though he lives in Pennsylvania.››     ALEX  responded  by  writing that›this reminds him of ALLEN  ATKINS  who›we  also  had to convince that the 1ST›XLEnt Word Processor was  one  of  the›easiest  and  best   word   processors›around  for  the  8-Bit  computer, and›which ALLEN now uses exclusively.››     A  letter  to  JOHN  KASUPSKI  of›WNYAUG where ALEX congratulates him on›the quality of the newsletter  and  in›particular  on  his  8   part   series›"BASIC101".››     ALEX  said he reads every word of›the POKEY NEWSLETTER and finds it very›interesting.  ALEX  printed  out   the›series  and  made  copies of the first›installment for the  members  present.››     JOHN responded  on  the  BBS  and›said  he  would furnish us any missing›parts.››DEMO'S:››     ALEX  first  demoed  a  BIORYTHEM›program,   and   passed   around   his›printout, showing his ups  and  downs,›physically,  mentally and emotionally.›P.S. ALEX was down on all 3 counts!››     ALEX next demoed a program called›DOSWIZ.OBJ,    that     requires     a›translator.    We   used   the   ULTRA›TRANSLATOR which is the  best  in  our›opinion.  This program will check your›disk and find out  if  there  are  any›missing  sectors. You can reclaim them›etc. It has most of the DOS  functions›available  for you. This is a disk you›should   have.  You  can  zero  unused›sectors,   you   can  restore  deleted›programs, you  can  have  a  disk  map›etc.››     ALEX then demoed a program called›MENU2BIN.BAS. It runs  BASIC  and  M/L›programs.  The  great thing about this›program   you   can   write   a  short›description and save it. It will  show›the  directory  and the description of›the file. A neat program  that  should›be   in   everybodies   main   working›library.››    ALEX next demoed a great  RENUMBER›utility  that  renumbers  your program›almost instantly. RENUMBER.BAS››     ALEX demoed  PSLABEL7.  This  can›saves your labels with its ICON. It is›the latest PS Labels program  that  we›have at this time.››     ALEX  showed PSUTILY.BAS. You can›list your Icons on the  screen  or  in›print.  You  can  rename them. You can›change printer type etc.››     ALEX showed an  ANTIC  type  menu›utility.  Great  for many programs. It›loads BASIC or M/L programs.››      We   saw   ALEX's   SIDEPRNT.BAS›program.  Prints letters down the left›side of the  paper.  Great  for  SPINE›LABELS.››     ALEX  showed  us  PSET82. This is›program that  lets  you  set  up  your›EPSON  printer   for   various   print›styles.››     We saw CUSTMPRT.MOD it prints out›everything including inverse and ASCII›symbols etc.››     We  also  saw  DATA-X  data  base›program from ANTIC.››     We saw a  double  sided  disk  on›NUMEROLOGY.  It goes into the library.›We prognasticated  AL  ATKINS  future.›The program comes with a SHOVEL to dig›out all the #$%"#&@!››     ALEX showed a SOLITAIRE  program.›A  great program that keeps your score›etc. The disk is  also  known  as  THE›SOLITAIRE  MASTER  and  it  is  in our›library.›››NOSTALGIA:››     ON screen, we read the minutes of›the club meeting of AUG. 1986,  by  AL›ATKINS. Very interesting but before my›time. NOTE: The first meeting  of  the›OL'  HACKERS  was  in DEC. 1985. We go›back a l o n g way!››              *****›SPECIAL:››      The  club  wished  RON  a  HAPPY›BIRTHDAY, and gave him a rousing hand.›MANY  HAPPY  YEARS  OF GOOD HEALTH AND›HAPPINESS RON!›               *****››     DOOR PRIZES:››     RON FETZER›     HARRY TUTHILL›     BOB ULSCHMID›     AL ATKINS›     HAROLD PEGLER›     STAN SCHENFELD››A CONTEST:››     The members are asked to bring in›a  GRAPHIC  PRINTOUT. The best graphic›will win  a  prize.  In  the  JUNE  20›meeting  we  will  have  the  graphics›contest judgeing for the best work.››Submitted by ›                       Ron Fetzer›››››››››››                                page 8›››>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<››