********›       --------------------------›           ()()()()()()()()›       MINUTES MARCH 1992 MEETING›       --------------------------››  NEW MEMBER:››       BOB ULSCHMID joined  our  club.›  BOB  has an  800XL computer. He said›  he   is   going   to  buy  an  EPSON›  COMPATIBLE  printer.  BOB  lives  in›  GLENDALE   N.Y.   He  is  a  retired›  electronics technician. Welcome BOB,›  to the best 8 BIT club ever!››  BULLETIN:››  ALLEN ATKINS has VOLUNTEERED to copy›  all  65  copies  of  the  newsletter›  disks by himself! ALLEN that is  JOB›  beyond  the  call  of duty. The club›  THANKS YOU,  but  this job will have›  to be split up as before,  but it is›  members  like ALLEN  that make  this›  club so great.››  CORRESPONDENCE:››       Mr. & Mrs. JACK  GEDALIUS  sent›  the OL HACKERS a Thank You card.›       ALEX  wrote  to  Mrs HOLTEGAARD›  offering any assistance she needs in›  regards  to  the  8-Bit computer. He›  informed her that  KRIS  had  a  few›  pieces of equipment that belonged to›  the   club.   We   sent   her    the›  MARCH/APRIL  1992  Newsletter  which›  was dedicated to KRIS HOLTEGAARD.›       ALEX  wrote  to  JIM CUTLER. He›  thanked JIM for the 8:16 Magazine he›  sent    us.   ALEX   expressed   the›  condolences   of  our  club  on  the›  recent death of  JIM'S  mother.  JIM›  ordered  the  DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM›  and some other disks. HAROLD  mailed›  them to him.›       Another letter from JIM CUTLER,›  our prolific member from England who›  writes  that  he is in touch with an›  8-BITter in MOSCOW. We sure  do  get›  around  the  world,  dont  we?  ALEX›  answered JIM and thanked him for the›  disks he sent  us.  JIM  is  a  very›  important  member of the OL' HACKERS›  and is much appreciated  all  of  us›  over here.›        A  letter  from  our   member,›  LARRY  TISHBEIN  from Quakertown PA.›  editor of the LVAUG  newsletter.  He›  asked  ALEX  to  explain  how  to do›  certain  things  with  the  1STXLENT›  word processor.  ALEX  answered  all›  his  questions.  RON  FETZER  called›  LARRY  ad  gave him more tips on 1ST›  XLENT.›       A letter from TOM  ANDREWS  our›  upstate  member.  He  wants  to  put›  something  in  the  ACE  OF SYRACUSE›  newsletter about KRIS HOLTEGAARD. He›  wanted  some  biographical  data. He›  sent us an intermediate  version  of›  PRINTSTAR.  The  final  version   is›  still  being  programmed. He is also›  working   on   an   update   on  our›  newsletter.›       ALEX answered and sent him  the›  information  that  TOM asked for. He›  asked TOM to  insert  the  code  for›  inverse  printing  in the newsletter›  if possible.›        BRUCE   WILLIS,   the    8-Bit›  Librarian  of MAGIC, Ames Iowa, sent›  us their D.O.M. DISK, and also  sent›  us  the missing D.O.M.  MAGIC DISKS.›  He also sent us a directory  of  all›  the DOM disks. He thanked us for the›  OL' HACKERS NEWSLETTER DISKS that we›  sent  him.  ALEX  wrote  to  him and›  commended him for his hard work  and›  mentioned the DISK MANAGEMENT SYSTEM›  which   is  a  2  disk  set  and  is›  available for $6.00  from  our  club›  librarian.›       A   letter   from   BOB   PUFF,›  President   Of   COMPUTER   SOFTWARE›  SERVICES, Rochester, NY. He  thanked›  us  for  selecting him as the AUTHOR›  OF THE MONTH. He  mentions  the  new›  products  his   company   has   been›  producing  for  the  8-Bit. CSS is a›  great   company  to  deal  with.  It›  deserves your full support.›       From RON RICHE,  author  of  te›  fabulous  TEXTPO   Word   Processor,›  advises  that  TEXTPRO  5.0 has been›  completed and will be available very›  soon.  It will be distributed within›  a month, he hopes. One of  the  BEST›  word processor ever written.›       Letter  and  2  disks from CLUB›  SENCAL in France. ALEX wrote to them›  and  informed  them that their disks›  did not work. We asked them to  send›  us replacements.››  ATARI INTERFACE MAGAZINE››       We  hope  that  AIM  will start›  publishing an  8-Bit  only  magazine›  soon. Have you sent in your name and›  address to JEFF  McWILLIAMS  or  BEN›  POEHLAND.  If  not don't complain if›  you   dont   have   an  8  BIT  only›  magazine!››  ITEM››       We sold  5  sets  of  the  DISK›  MANAGEMENT  SYSTEM   at   the   LIUG›  meeting  of  March  7,  1992, and we›  donated a set to  their  LIBRARY.  I›  was  told  that  it   was   a   very›  interesting  meeting.  I  missed  it›  because  we  got our signals crossed›  and I waited at the wrong place.››  ITEM››       DISKO PARTY! ALLAN ATKINS  made›  the  suggestion that we have a DISKO›  PARTY at each meeting where  we  can›  copy  disks  from  the  library. You›  notify HAROLD what disk you want. He›  will bring them to the meeting. You ›  MUST HAVE  5  FORMATTED  disks  with›  you. There will be a setup where you›  can copy the  disks.  The  price  is›  $5.00  for 5 disks. A BARGAIN ANYWAY›  YOU LOOK AT IT!. ALEX will bring  an›  810  drive. AL ATKINS will bring one›  of the club drives,BOB ULSCHMID will›  bring the other club drive and a TV.›  RON will bring a switch  box  and  2›  copy  programs.  Jack will bring the›  club 800XL computer and we are ready›  for  the  DISKO  PARTY!  The minimum›  amount you can copy from the library›  is  5  disks  for 5 dinaros!(bucks).›  And remember they are double  sided.›  For our out of Town Members, (we did›  not forget you) read below  for your›  special.›  BOB ULSCHMID  made  the  motion  for›  the  DISKO   PARTY  it  received   a›  second from HARRY (D.P.) TUTHILL-and›  the motion was passed!›  FLASH: A SPECIAL for  our  NON LOCAL›  members. Five (5) LIBRARY DISKS  for›  $8.00 which includes all postage and›  handling. MUST PUCHASE at least five›  at one time.  A special  for MEMBERS›  ONLY. ITS ANOTHER MEMBERSHIP BENEFIT›  (YOU do NOT have to send in 5 BLANKS›  either!) GOOD DEAL, NO?››  ITEM››       STARFLEET SOFTWARE Company sent›  us  their  catalog  disk.  I ordered›  approximately   $70.00   worth    of›  programs.  I  sent them our flyer on›  the DISK MANAGAMENT  SYSTEM  because›  he has a P.D. section. He wrote back›  that he is working to help to  bring›  out the NEW 8BIT computer. More news›  later  on  this,  as  received. STAY›  TUNED!››     JIM HARRIS' presentation of how›  to Log onto a BBS demo at L.I.A.U.G.›  was  extremely  well  done.  We  all›  agreed that it  was  very  detailed,›  very  clear  and  a very interesting›  presentation. It must have taken JIM›  a  great deal of time to prepare the›  presentation  and  the  OL'  HACKERS›  appreciate it. The club gave  him  a›  standing ovation.Five of our members›  attended the Long Island Atari Users›  Group meeting, and enjoyed it!››  MORE BBS NEWS:››       JIM  HARRIS,  a  member and NEW›  NEST  SYSOP,  spoke  about  the  new›  things that are happening  with  the›  BBS.  The  BBS is NOW residing in 53›  Megs   of   space  with  over  1,000›  program titles  to  down  load.  JIM›  reviewed  all  of  them. This was an›  increase from about 250 titles  when›  the  BBS  started.  JIM  did a truly›  herculean task with the BBS. The BBS›  now has 22 public file sigs. JIM had›  to completely reorganize  the  whole›  BBS.  He  estimated  it took him 300›  hours to reorganize the BBS.›       The NEW NEST BBS (516 234-4943)›  now  has an international network in›  place.   It   goes  to  HOLLAND  and›  GERMANY. BERNARD COCK from Amsterdam›  Holland  is the SYSOP of the HOLLAND›  connection   of   the  network.  The›  network now consists of the BCOE BBS›  in  Holland,  the   ABBUC   BBS   in›  Germany, WOLFGANG BURGER, SYSOP, and›  the NEW NEST BBS, JIM HARRIS,  SYSOP›  in  Central  Islip.  We   are   also›  networking the INTERNATIONAL NETWORK›  with JOHN MURDOWSKI in PA. This is a›  separate  network.   We   are   also›  networking  with  the  NEAR*US base.›  The   international   network   with›  HOLLAND  and  GERMANY  is  a  closed›  loop.   NEW   NEST   networks   with›  Holland.   Holland   networks   with›  Germany.  Germany  networks with us.›  Thus the loop is complete.  The  NEW›  NEST  BBS  is  the  HOST  NODE   for›  contacting    the    USA   for   the›  Europeans. The PRO SUPPORT BOARD  in›  UTAH  is going to join this network.›  In Canada the  BLUE'S  BROTHERS  BBS›  wants  to  join.  If  this keeps up,›  this will soon be one of the biggest›  national  and  international BBS' in›  the country.›       The policies of the BBS are  in›  place  to provide some structure and›  consistancy said JIM. Every user  is›  voice  validated.  No new handles on›  the board. The download ratio  is  5›  to 1. JIM said that the BBS in large›  measure has been funded by LIUG.  He›  thanked  us  for our past support of›  the BBS.›  ALEX recommended that we discuss and›  at a future meeting, the OL' HACKERS›  take a vote at a meeting on how much›  we can support the BBS.››  DEMOES:››       RON  distributed  copies  of  a›  COMMAND  SUMMARY for the ATARI LIGHT›  PEN. The light pen does not work  if›  there  is  static electricity on the›  screen. HINT!!!.  A  PERMANENT  FIX!›  Strip  off  the  insulation  on some›  stranded copper  wire.  Untwist  the›  wire  and  spread it out. Scotch tap›  it to the bottom of the  screen.  On›  the  other end of the wire attach it›  to some  GROUND  (Outlet  box  screw›  etc).    This   is   the   permanent›  solution. Temporary solution.  Clean›  the screen with WINDEX.›       RON   distributed   a   COMMAND›  SUMMARY  for  DAISY  DOT  III to the›  members. DAISY DOT III comes in  two›  versions.       The       COMMERCIAL›  VERSION($25.00)  and  the  shareware›  version. The essential difference is›  that with the commercial version you›  can use an unlimited number of fonts›  in  your  document  and  you  get  a›  printed manual and two DAISY DOT III›  font disks. In the shareware version›  you  can  only  use ONE font in your›  document. (Library #94).  The  great›  thing  about  DAISY  DOT III is that›  you   DO  NOT  have  to  print  your›  document  to  disk  as  before  with›  version II. Version III  reads  your›  wordprocessing  files  directly.  In›  your  wordprocessing  files  you use›  ONLY DDIII commands. You DO NOT  use›  any  of  the regular word processing›  commands. It  works  with  all  word›  processors. BUY IT, ITS GREAT!›        ADVANCED  DESKTOP   PUBLISHING›  was  demoed  by  RON.  You  need two›  programs.   The   1st   XLEnt   Word›  Processor  and  DAISY  DOT  III. RON›  distributed   a   two  page  DESKTOP›  SAMPLE  done  with  1ST  XLEnt  word›  processor and  DAISY  DOT  III.  The›  text  wraps around the pictures. You›  can have  a  large  letter  starting›  each  paragraph etc. You can produce›  a document as good looking  as  with›  ANY  computer  regardless  of price.›  You just have to do it once or twice›  to get experience.›       ALEX  demoed  a  program   from›  ENGLAND called OIL DRILLING. It is a›  fantastic  program  with  remarkable›  graphics that shows the  details  of›  an  oil  drilling  process  and  the›  refining process.›       ALEX  demoed  another modified ›  GUESS THE NUMBER GAME. Very nice.  A›  whole disk of games for the LIBRARY.›  It will be disk #186 in the library.›  This is for you game freaks.››  DOOR PRIZES:››       HAROLD PEGLER›       RON FETZER›       BOB ULSCHMID›       AL ATKINS›       HARRY TUTHILL›       ANN RAWLINSON›  ›  HARDWARE:›  ›        HAROLD  PEGLER  showed  us his›  modified XF551 DISK DRIVE with a 3.5›  drive on top. It was modified by BOB›  PUFF  CSS  COMPANY.  They   do   the›  modification FREE for you if you buy›  their product. The 3.5 is  a  double›  sided  double density disk with 720K›  capacity. It  automatically  becomes›  the  next  drive  in  your   system,›  either D2 or D3 etc. The XF551 still›  works normally. You can copy between›  those  2  drives if you want to. The›  XF551   is   a  standard  IBM  drive›  mechanism on the inside and you  can›  replace    with   any   360K   drive›  mechanism   from   IBM.   With  this›  upgrade  you  can  use  SPARTA  DOS,›  MYDOS     and     SMARTDOS.     This›  modification costs $135.00. You also›  get MYDOS 4.50  with  this  upgrade.›  You  also  get a program to read IBM›  or ST DATA DISKS. NOT  programs  but›  DATA such as TEXT FILES etc. It only›  READS  -  it  cannot  write  to  IBM›  format.›       ANN RAWLINSON demoed a  fortune›  teller  program  that   tells   your›  future and also tells your past. Was›  any of it true ANN? I  must  say  it›  was  a  pleasure  seeing and hearing›  from ANN rather the others!›   ›   Submitted by›                 RON FETZER, Secretary›  ›  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<›