›               o=o=o=o=o=› THE OHAUG MEETING 12/20/97›› TREASURER'S REPORT:› We're in the black.›› CORRESPONDENCE:› ALAN  SHARKIS  reminded  us  that  he› received a letter from STUART  MURRAY› with a request for us to send him our› Newsletter  in  exchange  for  public› domain disks from  Europe  from  him,› and  read  a letter he had written to› Stuart confirming  that  we  will  do› just that.›› ALAN also reported that the Editor of› Tyne & Wear Newsletter is considering› quitting  unless  his  members submit› more articles.  Also, JEAN BROKAW  is› leaving   her   position   with   the› PACESetter    Newsletter.     They've› already elected a replacement.›› Alan also wrote an  editorial  saying› in  summary he  would like to see the› club   moving   two  directions.   He› would like to see the Club do more to› support  PC's  --  for   those   club› members  who  have  PC's to use their› PC's to enhance what their  Atari  8-› bits  are  doing  rather than give up› the 8-bit in favor of  the  PC.   The› second  area  is  that  he'd like the› Club to have more of  a  presence  on› the internet.›› JACK  GEDALIUS feels the two machines› do not conflict with each other.   He› feels  his  son  can  help with a WEB› page for OHAUG.  There are  8-bitters› on  the internet and it can be done. › You can go on  Worldwide  Web  also. › You can go on AOL if you have PC.  If› you have only 8-bit you must find  an› internet  service  provider  who will› allow you to have text and UNIX-based› kind  of  account  which  used  to be› called  a  shell  account.   At  that› point you have to telnet  to  one  of› the  various  sites  that runs a Lynx› browser (if your own ISP doesn't) and› the  software  you  use  has  to   be› capable  of  80  columns  and   VC100› terminal emulation.  There are 2 or 3› packages on the  market,  among  them› are FlickerTerm,  Term 80, and Ice-T.› We have at least 2  of  them  in  the› Library.›› ALAN  went  on to tell us that e-mail› and Usenet newsgroups are very simple› to  access  and are text based.  CURT› VENDEL has a page up called the Atari› Prototype  &  Vaporware  Museum, JOHN› HARDIE has a page that he shares with› a few other people which is all about› video games.   We're  looking  for  a› free site for 1 to several pages.  If› an  individual  member  has  an  ISP,› sometimes he is offered space to  put› a page for free.  In California there› is Geocities, which a number of clubs› use   for  their  pages and there are› others scattered around who  will  do› this.   Another  way is to purchase a› domain name which means you  have  an› exclusive  address  on  the  internet› which you must pay a fee for.  Should› we investigate it  and  if  so,  what› should  we  put  on  our  page?   RON› FETZER  asked how much can you put on› a page?  ALAN responded that the page› can  scroll & can be as long or short› as you want but on the page you  have› links  and you can get to other sites› and others can get to your site.›› ALAN also suggested people could mail› their  PC  questions  here and having› them answered  here.   RON  wants  to› know who would answer the questions. › ALAN said they would be shared  among› the  PC-owning Atari group members to› answer.›› HARRY   TUTHILL   asked   where  does› Internet   end  and  World  Wide  WEB› begin.  ALAN responded World Wide  is› part of Internet.  It's the graphical› part.  Some people think  it  is  the› Internet, but there are other parts. › Through Internet e-mail, for example,› you  can  sign  on to mailing lists. › There   is   also    a    place    to› buy/sell/trade,  express opinions and› ask   for  advice  (newsgroups),  ftp› sites for file storage (like the  one› at UMICH) from which you can download› files.  The  WEB  has  picked  up  on› these  things  and  can now encompass› ftp, etc. and integrate graphics into› all.›› ALAN  found  that  he  was better off› with an Internet provider who  didn't› provide  all  the extras but gets him› on the Internet.   "I'm  using  EROLS› and  paid  for  3  years  in advance,› which came out to $9.95 a month.)›› A  discussion  followed  where  HARRY› heard of a program  that  the  Nassau› Public  Libraries  will  start in the› spring, giving free Inernet access to› card holders.›› JACK  GEDALIUS suggested various uses› for the proposed WEB page.  Then JACK› welcomed and introduced a new member,› MEL LEVINE who went on to discuss his› background  on  the  Atari.  MEL said› his background is very limited on the› Atari  though  he has had it for many› years.    He's   familiar   with  the› Atariwriter.  JACK  offered  to  give› him  a  Master disk from the Club and› if he has  any  questions  he  should› feel  free  to  call  JACK.   A short› discussion   followed    among    the› members.›› CORRESPONDENCE:›› RON  showed  a  card from ALEX's wife› which he read to club members needing› advice  on  what  to  do with  ALEX's› computer room.›› DAVID OLDFIELD ordered many disks and› his order has gone out to him.›› JOHN  POWELL  sent money for May thru› December Newsletters  which  we  sent› him.›› A guy in Bombay India asked for turbo› disks which we sent.›› JOHN JOHNSON asked for calendar which› RON mailed him.›› JACK  GEDALIUS  brought up discussion› on winter party.  Members decided  to› have  it  at  Lambrou's  again  on  a› Friday  night  in  February   to   be› decided by JACK.›› JACK  then  wished   everyone   happy› holidays  and  members wished him the› same.›› DEMONSTRATIONS:› RON demod a disk from ABBUC #1029, an›  interface  for Print Shop.   Side  1› is   Tricky   Print.    Side   2   is› Dynoblast, a pretty  good  game  with› options,  written in English (Library› #702).›› Next Ron demod  an  ABBUC  disk  from› Sonder(Special)    Magazine     #22. › Protocol  year  1997  lists of parts,› book service, building  plan  service› all  in  German.   Then  we  tried an› interlace picture     (it goes back &› forth),  we  brought up a few of them› (Library #703).›› Then  RON  demod  another  disk  from› Sonder Magazine #21 called  the  BIBO› Assembler.   It  has  instructions in› German (Library #704).›› Next RON had a disk from ALAN an SLCC› #1512  12/97  from  The  San  Leandro› Computer  Club.   We  tried  a double› decker  object,  two  table,  pinball› machine  game.   Then  we tried Crime› One, a  text  adventure  game.   Then› Spook Busters the Super-natural Game.› Side 1 is all games.  Then  we  tried› Side  2's  Rambler  Gambler which has› various gambling  games  -  we  tried› Blackjack.  Side  2  has  more games › (Library #705).›› DOOR PRIZES:› › Courtesy of HARRY TUTHILL as follows:›› George Gable won first prize.› Harold Pegler won second prize.› Jack Gedalius won third prize.› Mel  Levine won fourth prize (but had› left.)› Al Atkins won fifth prize.››               o=o=o=o=o=›››