*+*+*+*+*›      MINUTES JUNE 1992 MEETING›      =========================››NEW MEMBER:››    Slowly   but   surely   the  clubs›membership increases.  This  time,  we›welcome  MURRAY  BERKOWITZ  who joined›the OL'  HACKERS  ATARI  CLUB.  MURRAY›lives  in OLD BETHPAGE, L.I., a stones›throw  from  th  Library.  MURRAY  has›worked on ATARI  8-Bit  computers  for›some  time,  and  has always wanted to›join an all 8 BIT  club.  OL'  HACKERS›was  a dream come true. Welcome to the›club.››GRAPHIC CONTEST:››     As promised the GRAPHICS  contest›was  held  at  ths meeting. The judges›for   the  GRAPHIC  CONTEST  were  JOE›LEBER, BOB ULSCHMID and ALLAN  ATKINS.›After    careful     and     deliberte›consideration    the    winners   were›announced as follows:››     1st Prize  -  ALEX  PIGNATO  with›"MISS OHAUG 1992"››     2nd  & 3d Prize's - JACK GEDALIUS›with his 2 color  prints.  One  was  a›picture  with  a LOVE  theme,  and the›other  was  a  Scanned  picture of his›daughter made with a digitizer››     The  new  CURRENT  NOTES magazine›had  a  very  lengthy  letter  by  BEN›POEHLAND our member from Pennsylvania.›In  it  he  tells  us  about  the deep›feelings he had about the disaster  of›the  CHALLENGER five years ago and how›it affected  him  personally.  He  sat›down  and wrote a beautiful poem which›was published in the JUNE  1992  issue›of   CURRENT NOTES. ALEX said the poem›is very moving  and  very  well  done.›ALEX  read  part  of  the  poem at the›meeting. JOE LEBER said his brother is›an Aero-Space Engineer and he was very›much involved in that  launch  and  he›can  attest  to  the  fact  that   the›disaster  had  a  profound  affect  on›everyone, including JOE's brother.›     ALEX  felt he just had to write a›letter to BEN in which he stated  that›BEN  had a great talent with words and›perhaps   that   BEN  had  missed  his›calling as an author. ALEX  said  that›he  enjoyed  the poem tremendously and›we were glad that BEN was a friend and›a  member  of  the  OL'  HACKERS. ALEX›mentioned that RON FETZER  used  BEN'S›article to upgrade the two of his Hong›Kong  800XL  computers,   as  well  as›ALEX'S. (BEN: the articles are  great,›and  the  upgrades  work beautifully -›  RON).   ALEX  praised  RON  for  his›dedication to the 8-Bit and to the OL'›HACKERS  in  the  lettter to BEN. ALEX›mentioned that the  write-in  campaign›for  the  CLASSIC   MAGAZINE   was   a›success.    AIM   magazine   got   560›commitments to subscribe to  an  8-Bit›CLASSIC  MAGAZINE.  The  CLASSIC 8-Bit›magazine campaign report can  be  read›on  GENIE  file  #5854 or COMP-U-SERVE›#18446.››The WESTERN NEW YORK ATARI USERS GROUP›is  also  using  our newsletter format›for their newsletter. ››COMMITTEE REPORTS:››      HAROLD   PEGLER   the  librarian›reported  on  our  experimental  DISKO›PARTY copy  program.  The  program  is›going  O.K.  but  more  members should›avail themselves of these  great  disk›bargains,    before    the     program›finishes.››     TREASURES  REPORT:  The treasurer›RON FETZER reported that we  are  O.K.›and in the black.››CORRESPONDENCE:››     RICK  REASER  the  current  8-Bit›editor of CURRENT NOTES wrote and said›that in future issues he probably will›review  the  RON  FETZER,  OL' HACKERS›"TURBO BASIC PROGRAMMING KIT" and  the›RON  FETZER,  STAN   SCHENFELD   "DISK›MANAGEMENT  SYSTEM"  disks.  RICK also›wrote to ALEX that he might  highlight›our  club  in  his  section   of   the›magazine.  ALEX  answered him and told›him   more   about   our   club.  ALEX›mentioned KRIS HOLTEGAARD, (one of our›programmers)  a  deceased  member  who›wrote the program for our newsletter -› an excellent programmer  and  a  fine›member. We shall miss him.››     The  SAGE   SCROLL   from   ERIE,›Pennsylvania mentioned the OL' HACKERS›and they thanked us for  helping  them›with their newsletter.››     AL  ATKINS  wrote up the complete›procedures and protocols for going  on›to the NEW NEST BBS (516) 234-4943 and›how  to  use  the  850  EXPRESS  MODEM›PROGRAM. He made copies of his article›and  distributed it to the members. It›was very well  done  and  the  members›appreciated his work. Because AL is so›unassuming when he photo copied it  he›did not even put his name on it. AL it›is a great piece of work  and  it  has›helped  all of us to become more adept›when going on a modem, and it will  be›found in this next newsletter.››     A  letter  from  JIM  CUTLER  our›member from ENGLAND. He writes us that›he is going on  a  vacation  to  North›Wales  for  a  week.  He  sends us his›regards, and  a  couple  of  disks  as›always.  Thanks again, JIM. ENJOY YOUR›VACATION!››      From  the  LIBRARY's  "WORLD  OF›PLAINVIEW" newsletter of Jan 1987 ALEX›showed a picture of ALEX and AL ATKINS›and some of the other members not with›us  any  more.  We  had  presented the›Library   at   that  time  with  Atari›programs for children and adults.››DEMOE's:››     ALEX  showed  the  program  HEAVY›METAL which comes from the AIM disk of›the month. It is a very  good  example›of  the  great graphics that come from›EUROPE.››     ALEX showed a modification he had›made  to  the "BULK FORMATTER" PROGRAM›by RON FETZER. ALEX added a  directory›function and more caution functions to›the   program.   In   the   mean  time›unbeknownst   to  ALEX,  RON  had  re-›written  the  program  and  called  it›"SUPER BULK FORMATTER." It will be put›into our P.D. Library.››     A  program  from   AIM   magazine›called  DRONE was shown, It is a great›game. It is a take off on PAC MAN  but›but it is much better and the graphics›are great. It is in  machine  language›and very fast!››     ALEX showed a game program called›"CASINO" that had about 5 games on it.›The  computer picks which game you are›to   play.   From   Craps  to  Russian›Roulette. ALEX played craps  and  lost›his  shirt.  Better  never  go  to Los›Vegas ALEX!  A couple  members  played›RUSSIAN  ROULETTE,  and  lived to tell›about it.››     ALEX showed another disk from AIM›magazine,  "EURODEMO  2"  made  by THE›GATE KEEPER from Holland a great demo.›again   it   proves   that   they   do›unbelievable graphics work in Europe.››     RON FETZER showed his  new  SUPER›BULK  FORMATTER for 2 disk drives. The›program requires SUPERDOS because this›DOS  issues  error codes on XIO format›commands  -  DOS  2.5  does  not.  RON›showed how the program can format 2 or›an  unlimited  amount  of disks at one›time.   The   program  can  write  any›density and can format 1 or 2 sides of›a  disk. If you want too, you can also›write DOS.SYS to the disk at the  same›time.  If the program encounters a bad›side it stops and lets you  label  the›bad  side  and  then  it  continues. I›always have 5 disks formatted.  I  use›single  density  and   1050   density.›Frequently  you  need a formatted disk›or you loose the program, such as on a›download  or  when  writing a program.›This program will be put on  a  future›newsletter disk for you to have. (Look›in this newsletter!)››     ALEX showed a utility  disk  that›he  made  up  of   KRIS   HOLTEGAARD's›programs.  We saw a SCREEN FONT LOADER›program, a  super  directory  program,›copy  a  file,  and  DOS function menu›programs, write,  edit  or  create  or›view  a  text  file,  reboot computer,›show current time and  date  on  disk,›utilities  etc.  It  is   a   terrific›program. It has so many features on it›that  it  required  a  double  density›disk. ALEX said that he  is  going  to›make  it  up as 2 single density disks›because many  8-Bitters  do  not  have›double  density drives. You have a lot›of programs on the disk to do  various›things.  On  the  utility  section you›have   such   things   as   MULTI.COM,›JOYSTICK  TESTER,  PRINTER  SETUP etc.›ALEX is still working on this program,›and  hopes  to put it into the Library›soon.››PICNIC NEWS:››      STAN  SCHENFELD,  V.P.  and  the›picnic chairman  reported  that  BRADY›PARK  has  been  booked  for the whole›year. He  suggested  that  instead  we›have  a  PICNIC  DINNER.  Since we had›such a good time last time at CAFE  20›in  Baldwin L.I. the members agreed to›have   a  dinner  instead.  ALEX  made›arrangements for FRIDAY evening  at  7›PM.  The  date is July 17. By the time›you read this  the  dinner  date  will›have passed.››     HAROLD  PEGLER  then demonstrated›some digitized pictures. The  pictures›looked  like  they were digitized with›EASY SCAN. The  pictures  were  pretty›impressive.››     HARRY  TUTHILL  demonstrated  two›programs  that  he  uses  together  to›manage  his finances. The programs are›FAMILY FINANCE and MICRO CHECK.  HARRY›uses  the same codes in FAMILY FINANCE›and MICRO CHECK so  he  can  use  both›programs.›     HARRY said that FAMILY FINANCE an›Atari program is very  user  friendly.›You  just  follow  the  prompts. MICRO›CHECK has a much better search ability›than  FAMILY  FINANCE. You can call up›any expense or income  groups  by  its›code  for  the year or quarter year or›month. FAMILY FINANCE uses 2 sides  of›a  disk.  One side is cash flow on the›other  side  is  budgets.  With  MICRO›CHECK HARRY uses 2 disks. One  is  the›system  disk  and disk two is the data›disk.  On  the data disks, one side is›for expenses and the other side is for›income.  With  MICRO CHECK you have an›unlimited printout with codes  whereas›FAMILY  FINANCE  has  only 13 codes of›incomes and 13 codes of expenses.›     HARRY  modified  MICRO  CHECK  to›suit  his  needs.  MICRO  CHECK  is in›BASIC. Since the program is  primarily›a  check   balancing   program   HARRY›modified  it  for  a  finance program.›HARRY created a semi monthly worksheet›for  incomes and expenses. On the work›sheet he enters the codes and then  he›enters  it  into  MICRO  CHECK  at the›middle and the end of the month.  With›MICRO  CHECK  you  can  call  up   any›expense  or  income  for any period of›time that you are interested in. HARRY›showed  us some actual entries that he›made with the  programs  and  then  he›searched  for  them.  He  prints out a›budget with FAMILY FINANCE.›      The   presentation   was    very›detailed   and   complete   and   very›interesting. This was the  first  demo›by  HARRY and it was well done, and we›hope to see more of  HARRY's,  demo's.›Harry  got a standing ovation from the›club for the great presentation.››DOOR PRIZES:››RON FETZER›HAROLD PEGLER›ALLAN ATKINS›JACK GEDALIUS›MURRY BERKOWITZ›ALAN SHARKIS›BOB ULSCHMID›STAN SCHENFELD›JOE LEBER›     (No, HARRY TUTHILL  did  not  win›this time, Sorry HARRY!!)››Submitted by›                        Ron Fetzer››  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<›