comp.os.os2.utilities (Usenet) Saturday, 09-Oct-1999 to Friday, 15-Oct-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rappleby@cadvision.com 10-Oct-99 09:11:26 To: All 10-Oct-99 14:35:10 Subj: Spamming the Spammers! From: rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby) I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my mail box. Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes. I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their mailing list. I use Post Road Mailer and I suppose you could probably accomplish this with some of the features in the program but I am not a programmer. Is there any program available that will work with PRM to do what I want? Best Regards, Ray Appleby rappleby@cadvision.com [Team OS/2] Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CADVision Development Corporation (http://www.cad (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tim.timmins@bcs.org.uk 10-Oct-99 16:48:26 To: All 10-Oct-99 14:35:10 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: Tim Timmins I think you'll find that spam comes with invalid mail addresses, so you'll be unable to reply to the originator. Anyway, do you really think that this approach will work. Won't it just make it worse? Ray Appleby wrote: > I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my > mail box. Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes. > > I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that > if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send > hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their > mailing list. > > I use Post Road Mailer and I suppose you could probably accomplish > this with some of the features in the program but I am not a > programmer. Is there any program available that will work with PRM to > do what I want? > > Best Regards, > Ray Appleby rappleby@cadvision.com > [Team OS/2] Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell... 10-Oct-99 23:52:06 To: All 10-Oct-99 21:15:25 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) [Posted and mailed] In article , rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby) writes: > I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my > mail box. Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes. > > I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that > if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send > hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their > mailing list. I must add my voice to those saying this is a very bad idea, for several reasons: - Spammers generally used forged return addresses, so the mail won't get through. - On those occasions when the return address is real, the account is a "throwaway" account that the spammer doesn't intend to use. You'll just ignore the spammer's ISP, who's probably a victim, too. - Spammers sometimes use forged return addresses that correspond to people they want to attack, and rely upon people to complain and (the spammer hopes) get the victim kicked off the Internet, or at least left dealing with thousands of angry messages. - Replying with hundreds of replies is itself an abuse of the Internet that's likely to get YOU in hot water with your own ISP. If you want to know about LEGITIMATE methods of fighting spam, I suggest you pick up the O'Reilly book, _Stopping Spam_, by Alan Schwartz & Simson Garfinkel. There's little or nothing on the topic on OS/2 and OS/2 programs specifically, but there's lots of useful general-purpose information. -- Rod Smith smithrod@bellatlantic.net http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 10-Oct-99 22:44:03 To: All 11-Oct-99 03:59:11 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: lifedata@xxvol.com rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) said: >I must add my voice to those saying this is a very bad idea, for several >reasons: >- Spammers generally used forged return addresses, so the mail won't get > through. Which brings me to a question. Just how does one report such spammers if they don't have an address or have a fake address? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bell... 11-Oct-99 04:10:22 To: All 11-Oct-99 10:31:03 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! Message sender: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net From: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) [Posted and mailed] In article <38014f2b$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com writes: > rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Rod Smith) said: >>I must add my voice to those saying this is a very bad idea, for several >>reasons: > >>- Spammers generally used forged return addresses, so the mail won't get >> through. > > Which brings me to a question. Just how does one report such spammers if they > don't have an address or have a fake address? You need to examine the mail headers. Most mail clients don't show these to you by default, but most do have an option to reveal them. They may or may not get saved when you save the mail to a file. Here's an annotated example (I've changed a few details to protect those who may be innocent victims, and trimmed extraneous headings): : From mailman@luftland.com Thu Sep 23 09:15:56 1999 : Return-Path: These two lines aren't terribly informative. : Delivered-To: rodsmith@adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net You may or may not see this line. If present, it should be your own e-mail address. : Received: from luftland.com (server.jbpublishing.com [198.137.152.250]) : by adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B554270921 : for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09: : 15:55 -0400 (EDT) : Received: from localhost (nmd_serv@localhost) : by luftland.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA19957; : Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:28:09 -0700 (PDT) These are the core of the matter. Each system that receives an e-mail message adds a "Received" header, which takes the form "from sender.address by current.address" (possibly with extra stuff added, as above). Many MTAs (mail transfer agents -- the e-mail server software) include the IP address of the machine from which it's received the message (I've changed it above). The one at the top ("from luftland.com") is the most recent. In this case, it was my DSL-connected computer, which received a message from server.jbpublishing.com, aka luftland.com (I've altered the names and IP address). The next line reveals that a mail server calling itself luftland.com received its mail from localhost (the name most UNIX systems give themselves for internal use). This spam is unusual in that it has only the two Received: lines, indicating that the spammer's machine talked DIRECTLY to mine. If you receive mail via a POP server, there'll be at least three Received: lines. Spammers' ISPs often add another, so four isn't unusual. Sometimes networks relay mail through several machines, so the total can go even higher. Normally, the LAST Received: line is the one that contains the critical information. Most spam has a final Received line that indicates it was received by some ISP's mail server from a dialup PPP link. The one I've just quoted is unusual in that the spam appears to have originated on the same system as the MTA, and that system is a UNIX system that appears to have its own IP address (not a dialup account). You normally want to report the spammer to the abuse and/or postmaster accounts at the ISP(s) involved. For instance, if the Received: line showed that mail was received by mail2.someisp.net from ppp-23298-a.someisp.net, then you'd send e-mail to abuse@someisp.net and/or postmaster@someisp.net. If you have access to whois, you can also try doing "whois someisp.net", which should get you assorted information, including postal addresses, phone numbers, and administrative contacts. All this said, spammers can do things to throw you off. For instance, they can use "stolen" PPP accounts, accounts opened under false names, and open mail relays. The last of these are systems that are misconfigured to accept and forward mail from non-local sites. (This used to be accepted common courtesy on the Internet, but in today's spam climate, open relays are generally considered to be Bad Things.) For instance, a spammer using a dialup PPP account from someisp.net could point e-mail software to smtp.dumbadmin.com and send out e-mail. The people at dumbadmin.com would then get e-mail complaining of the spam. You can spot this by the Received: line -- it would show mail received from ppp-23298-a.someisp.net by smtp.dumbadmin.com. In this case, you should send mail to both dumbadmin.com AND someisp.net. (My DSL-connected Linux box has actually been subjected to unsolicited probes by spammers to determine if it's an open relay, which it isn't.) Spammers also sometimes add bogus Received: headers. These will typically be separated from other Received: headers by additional e-mail headers, and they may contain nonsensical information. Sometimes the spammer's own system adds the first Received: header, as when the spammer uses a UNIX system on a dialup ISP line. The system name will probably be localhost, something bogus, or something that reveals the client nature of the system (like my own hostname, adsl-151-203-46-57.bellatlantic.net). : Received: by luftland.com (bulk_mailer v1.6); Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:37:41 -0700 This Received: header seems to have been added by the mailer program. It's not terribly useful. : To: Mail_List_Subscriber@luftland.com This is nearly useless. : From: mailman@luftland.com This is easily forged. : Message-ID: The message ID sometimes contains a clue about the origin. It's a unique ID for the mail. It generally consists of a code generated by the mail program (bulk.8113.19990922153741) followed by the originating computer. Various MTAs and other mail software add various additional headers, most of which are useless in tracking the mail to the source. If you want to learn more, check out _Stopping Spam_ from O'Reilly. I've got a link to its page on Amazon.com on my web page, if you're interested: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod/books.html -- Rod Smith smithrod@bellatlantic.net http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: t.sinnema@tref.nl 11-Oct-99 16:29:00 To: All 11-Oct-99 14:43:20 Subj: antivirus software for OS2 From: "Theo Sinnema" Hi there all! I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! Thanks in advance. Theo Sinnema --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Planet Internet (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 11-Oct-99 19:02:00 To: All 11-Oct-99 17:05:23 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:11:53, rappleby@cadvision.com (Ray Appleby) wrote: > I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my > mail box. Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes. > > I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that > if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send > hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their > mailing list. > > I use Post Road Mailer and I suppose you could probably accomplish > this with some of the features in the program but I am not a > programmer. Is there any program available that will work with PRM to > do what I want? > > Best Regards, > Ray Appleby rappleby@cadvision.com > [Team OS/2] Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed. I quit returning ANYTHING (even Remove requests) to the SPAMMERS. All it seems to do, is CONFIRM that they have a real , live, address, so they can add your name to more SPAM lists. I just set up a filter. If the mail isn't addressed, specifically, to me, it goes into a separate mail bin. Then I scan, real quick, to see if something slipped through that I really do want to keep, save that, and trash the rest. If the SPAM is actually addressed to me, I try to send a note back to the webmaster of the domain that it came from. Sometimes that works. Of course, if it came from HOTMAIL (apparently owned by Microsoft), you are wasting your time. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arelyea@vt.edu 11-Oct-99 13:58:12 To: All 11-Oct-99 17:05:23 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: "Antonio Relyea" On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:29:00 +0200, Theo Sinnema wrote: >Hi there all! > >I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in >native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! > http://www.mcafee.com/ Tony. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: marco.shaw@nbtel.nb.ca 11-Oct-99 20:27:01 To: All 11-Oct-99 19:55:28 Subj: HOWTO: chat scripts? From: "Marco Shaw" I'm new to OS/2 admin. I need to develop a script that gets files newer than x date, and FTPs all these files to an FTP server, and this must be done every 4 hours. What kind of scheduling mechanism does OS/2 (Warp 4) have? Would it be best to use DOS batch scripts to do the above? Since I don't know anything about REXX... Thanks, Marco --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NBTel Internet (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk 12-Oct-99 00:47:06 To: All 12-Oct-99 05:53:23 Subj: Re: HOWTO: chat scripts? From: abuse@orac.clara.co.uk (Paul Ratcliffe) On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:27:02 GMT, Marco Shaw wrote: >I'm new to OS/2 admin. I need to develop a script that gets files newer >than x date, and FTPs all these files to an FTP server, and this must be >done every 4 hours. You need REXX and a library package called RxSock. This all comes with Warp 4. >What kind of scheduling mechanism does OS/2 (Warp 4) have? It doesn't, but there is a choice of Cron-like utilties on Hobbes which will do the job. >Would it be best to use DOS batch scripts to do the above? No. >Since I don't know anything about REXX... An ideal opportunity to learn then. My homepages are maintained automatically by such a system as you describe - whatever I change here automatically gets uploaded to the server whenever I connect. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Floppy BBS (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdholt@attglobal.net 12-Oct-99 00:35:03 To: All 12-Oct-99 05:53:23 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: jdholt@attglobal.net (John Holt) In message - "Antonio Relyea" writes: :> :>On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:29:00 +0200, Theo Sinnema wrote: :> :>>Hi there all! :>> :>>I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in :>>native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! :>> :>http://www.mcafee.com/ Went to the McAfee site, and found nothing for OS/2. Do you have a better reference?? Thanks, //---------------------------------------------------------// // John Holt // //---------------------------------------------------------// --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jscott@csolve.net 12-Oct-99 03:29:01 To: All 12-Oct-99 05:53:24 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: JohnS See http://download.mcafee.com/eval/platform-language.asp?l=0&pkgc=VSS&prdc=VS&s=HO ME&o=10&zz=VirusScan&img=vs1.gif It lists OS2; French, German, Danish, Dutch, Swedish, Portugese versions but NO English. So, if you read one of the above, you can download and try for 30 days. If you read English only, you are apparently SOL. Interesting way to kill a product?? Cheers J John Holt wrote: > > In message - > "Antonio Relyea" writes: > :> > :>On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:29:00 +0200, Theo Sinnema wrote: > :> > :>>Hi there all! > :>> > :>>I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in > :>>native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! > :>> > :>http://www.mcafee.com/ > > Went to the McAfee site, and found nothing for OS/2. > > Do you have a better reference?? > > Thanks, > > //---------------------------------------------------------// > // John Holt // > //---------------------------------------------------------// --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sympatico (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 11-Oct-99 19:42:14 To: All 12-Oct-99 05:53:24 Subj: antivirus software for OS2 From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) Theo Sinnema wrote in a message to All: TS> I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident TS> shield in native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! Network Associates Software End-User License Agreement VirusScan for OS/2 v4.0.2 Copyright (c) 1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its Affiliated Companies. All Rights Reserved Scan engine v4.0.02 for OS/2. Virus data file v4.2.4043 created 09/15/99 Scanning for 46695 viruses, trojans and variants. http://www.nai.com/asp_set/download/dats/mcafee_4x.asp appr.... -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Aurora@warp.com 12-Oct-99 08:12:00 To: All 12-Oct-99 05:53:24 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: Aurora@warp.com On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:58:25, "Antonio Relyea" wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:29:00 +0200, Theo Sinnema wrote: > > >Hi there all! > > > >I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in > >native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! > > > http://www.mcafee.com/ At the moment mcafee is the only one, but it's really slow. I know that norman (www.norman.no) is developing a version, and I have tested it, and it's alot faster. With Mcafee, you can feel and see that it's running, it slows down the computer, with the Norman version it's much less so, if any at all. But it's still some time untill it will be released. It was shown at WarpStock Europe. -D- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 12-Oct-99 08:36:11 To: All 12-Oct-99 10:16:26 Subj: antivirus software for OS2 From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) JohnS wrote in a message to John Holt: J> If you read English only, you are apparently SOL. Interesting way to J> kill a product?? _ _ _ O / _ _C_U_T_ _B_E_G_I_N_ _ O \ NA1 - CONTACTING NETWORK ASSOCIATES On December 1, 1997, McAfee Associates merged with Network General Corporation, Pretty Good Privacy, Inc., and Helix Software, Inc. to form Network Associates, Inc. The combined Company subsequently acquired Dr Solomon's Software, Trusted Information Systems, Magic Solutions, and CyberMedia, Inc. _ _ _ O / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O \ C U T E N D That's why NAI uses Solomon for OS/2..... -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bvermo@powertech.no 12-Oct-99 15:20:27 To: All 12-Oct-99 16:57:25 Subj: Re: HOWTO: chat scripts? From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Paul Ratcliffe wrote: > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:27:02 GMT, Marco Shaw wrote: > > >I'm new to OS/2 admin. I need to develop a script that gets files newer > >than x date, and FTPs all these files to an FTP server, and this must be > >done every 4 hours. > > You need REXX and a library package called RxSock. This all comes with Warp 4. > It may also be useful to run SWITCHRX.CMD to change to the new Object REXX. It has some new functions which are very useful, such as access to semaphores. It is also very fast and convenient to use the container classes (tables, arrays, queues &c) to organize the files you need to transmit. It is easier to use the REXX ftp API if you do not need all the socket capabilities. From the online documentation: The REXX FTP API package is contained in the file rxftp.dll. This dynamic link library (DLL) must be placed in a directory listed in your LIBPATH statement in your CONFIG.SYS file. To use the functions in the REXX FTP API package, execute this REXX code: rc = RxFuncAdd("FtpLoadFuncs","rxFtp","FtpLoadFuncs") rc = FtpLoadFuncs() To unload the DLL, you should first call the FtpDropFuncs() function, then exit all CMD.EXE shells. After exiting all the command shells, the DLL will be dropped by OS/2 and can be deleted or replaced. > > >What kind of scheduling mechanism does OS/2 (Warp 4) have? > > It doesn't, but there is a choice of Cron-like utilties on Hobbes which will > do the job. > It certainly does! I have used the scheduler in the bonus pack for years with no problems. It will allow a wide range of different scheduling options (like every n days, third wednesday in every month, or whatever). It is also possible to do the scheduling in REXX if it is fairly straightforward. Your batch control program can be started from the startup folder, and stay in the background like any other daemon. /* REXX timing loop for daily task */ iScheduled = TIME('S', '22:14:00') /* Convert scheduled time 22:14 to seconds after midnight */ do forever iNow = TIME('s') /* Seconds since midnight */ iWait = iScheduled - iNow if iWait < 0 then iWait = iWait + TIME('S', '23:59:59') /* Not until tomorrow */ SAY 'Wait' iWait 'seconds, until' TIME('N', iScheduled, 'S') CALL SysSleep iWait 'START /B myjob.cmd' end --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: anti-spam.d89-tgl@nada.kth.se 12-Oct-99 15:51:04 To: All 12-Oct-99 23:18:16 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: anti-spam.d89-tgl@nada.kth.se (Tobias Gladh) :>I quit returning ANYTHING (even Remove requests) to the SPAMMERS. All :>it seems to do, is CONFIRM that they have a real , live, address, so :>they can add your name to more SPAM lists. I just set up a filter. If :>the mail isn't addressed, specifically, to me, it goes into a separate :>mail bin. Then I scan, real quick, to see if something slipped through :>that I really do want to keep, save that, and trash the rest. :> :>If the SPAM is actually addressed to me, I try to send a note back to :>the webmaster of the domain that it came from. Sometimes that works. :>Of course, if it came from HOTMAIL (apparently owned by Microsoft), :>you are wasting your time. I use the same approach (it's very effective), except that I throw away everything that isn't addressed to me. This means I have to have additional filters for the mailing lists before this filter, but it's definitely worth it. I never see the spam, not even the subject, thereby defeating their purpose. As an aside, what mailer are you using? I use MR/2 ICE, and I like the filtering it has. Another good method is to never end up on their spam-lists in the first place, by mutilating your mail-address when you post in a newsgroup. Maybe they can pick out my real address, but I don't think so, as I receive virtually no spam addressed to me. My presence in their lists probably stems from my innocent period on KTH, before I met the harsh reality of real life :-) Once they get your address, you end up on their SPAM-CDs, which they sell to each other, forever. I wouldn't mind to be able to send an electronic "torpedo" at the spammers, especially when you get an ad about the millons of addresses they have on their damned CDs. /Tobias Gladh M.Sc. C.Sc. & E. Remove 'anti-spam.' to reply. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arelyea@vt.edu 12-Oct-99 12:16:04 To: All 12-Oct-99 23:18:16 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: "Antonio Relyea" On 12 Oct 1999 00:35:06 GMT, John Holt wrote: >Went to the McAfee site, and found nothing for OS/2. > >Do you have a better reference?? That's where I got it, I don't know. Tony. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 12-Oct-99 14:37:17 To: All 12-Oct-99 23:18:16 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In <7tvldd$t4g$1@yggdrasil.utfors.se>, on 10/12/99 at 03:51 PM, anti-spam.d89-tgl@nada.kth.se (Tobias Gladh) said: >I use the same approach (it's very effective), except that I throw away >everything that isn't addressed to me. This means I have to have >additional filters for the mailing lists before this filter, but it's >definitely worth it. >I never see the spam, not even the subject, thereby defeating their >purpose. >As an aside, what mailer are you using? I use MR/2 ICE, and I like the >filtering >it has. Same here. How do you set up your filter to trash everything that is not addressed to you personally? I'd like to do this too. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 29 Processes with 119 Threads. This machine's uptime is 3d 7h 11m 11s 62ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 13-Oct-99 00:20:15 To: All 13-Oct-99 03:37:02 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:29:00, "Theo Sinnema" wrote: > Hi there all! > > I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in > native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! > > Thanks in advance. > > Theo Sinnema > To date, there are no known viruses that affect OS/2 (other than a couple that were created in a lab, that never got loose). On the other hand, I have heard that there IS a virus, just for WinNT, which might be translatable into something that could nail OS/2 (sure hope not). I have no idea, if it is any good (ie. *works* ), but I did look at, what appears to be a promising program, that is not anywhere near ready for "prime time", at: http://www.kasperskylab.ru/eng/products/download.htm It is difficult to tell, exactly what this program has/does as most of the documentation seems to be in Russian. It does install some sort of driver, when OS/2 first starts up, that I assume is some kind of resident OS/2 thing. It does not install anything specific for DOS/WinOS2 sessions. The file scan function also seems to be very slow (about 45 minutes, for something that takes the IBM Antivirus program about 10 minutes). This WAS the demo program, that I was using, and there is some indication that the "real" program does a few things much better than the demo. Anyone got the "real" program? Is it any better??? Does it work? I am still using the IBM Antivirus program, but it is getting rather old, and Symantec is really dragging their heels on releasing a single user version of NAV for OS/2 (it exists, but it is VERY difficult to get, and some people have indicated that it is very similar to the WIndows version -> read "doesn't work all that well" IMO <- ). I am still looking for something, at least as good as the IBM AV program (ie, it *works*, and there is little, or no system impact). Anybody??? ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net 12-Oct-99 18:36:23 To: All 13-Oct-99 03:37:02 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: "James F. Marshall" On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 16:29:00 +0200, Theo Sinnema wrote: :>I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in :>native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! Has anyone tried H+BEDV Antivirus? It appears to be German and multi-platform: http://www.hbedv.com/ Any opinions? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net 12-Oct-99 18:39:28 To: All 13-Oct-99 03:37:02 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: "James F. Marshall" On 11 Oct 99 19:42:29 BST, Steen Bondo wrote: :>http://www.nai.com/asp_set/download/dats/mcafee_4x.asp Virus definition files? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: NOSPAMmarshall@attglobal.net 12-Oct-99 18:43:12 To: All 13-Oct-99 03:37:02 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: "James F. Marshall" On 13 Oct 1999 00:20:31 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote: :>Russian. Forgive my cold war fears, but I'm not sure I'd want a potential trojan horse on my computer set to go off upon seeing, not necessarily a virus, but, say, a "meaningless" string of 11 digits in a subject header. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Brian@webone.com.au 13-Oct-99 16:47:18 To: All 13-Oct-99 06:16:02 Subj: Re: HOWTO: chat scripts? From: Brian@webone.com.au JASMINE HAS to be the best way to do this. Look for jsm280r.zip on Hobbes etc. Written in Java it is quick and you can FTP toa server or copy to a disk. Brian <380335B2.EDB694B@powertech.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo writes: >Paul Ratcliffe wrote: > >> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:27:02 GMT, Marco Shaw wrote: >> >> >I'm new to OS/2 admin. I need to develop a script that gets files newer >> >than x date, and FTPs all these files to an FTP server, and this must be >> >done every 4 hours. >> >> You need REXX and a library package called RxSock. This all comes with Warp 4. >> > >It may also be useful to run SWITCHRX.CMD to change to the new Object REXX. It has >some new functions which are very useful, such as access to semaphores. It is also >very fast and convenient to use the container classes (tables, arrays, queues &c) >to organize the files you need to transmit. > >It is easier to use the REXX ftp API if you do not need all the socket >capabilities. >From the online documentation: > > The REXX FTP API package is contained in the file rxftp.dll. This dynamic link >library (DLL) must be placed in a > directory listed in your LIBPATH statement in your CONFIG.SYS file. To use the >functions in the REXX FTP API > package, execute this REXX code: > > rc = RxFuncAdd("FtpLoadFuncs","rxFtp","FtpLoadFuncs") > rc = FtpLoadFuncs() > > To unload the DLL, you should first call the FtpDropFuncs() function, then exit >all CMD.EXE shells. After exiting all > the command shells, the DLL will be dropped by OS/2 and can be deleted or >replaced. > > > >> >> >What kind of scheduling mechanism does OS/2 (Warp 4) have? >> >> It doesn't, but there is a choice of Cron-like utilties on Hobbes which will >> do the job. >> > >It certainly does! I have used the scheduler in the bonus pack for years with no >problems. It will allow a wide range of different scheduling options (like every n >days, third wednesday in every month, or whatever). > >It is also possible to do the scheduling in REXX if it is fairly straightforward. >Your batch control program can be started from the startup folder, and stay in the >background like any other daemon. > >/* REXX timing loop for daily task */ >iScheduled = TIME('S', '22:14:00') /* Convert scheduled time 22:14 to seconds >after midnight */ >do forever > iNow = TIME('s') /* Seconds since midnight */ > iWait = iScheduled - iNow > if iWait < 0 then iWait = iWait + TIME('S', '23:59:59') /* Not until tomorrow */ > > SAY 'Wait' iWait 'seconds, until' TIME('N', iScheduled, 'S') > CALL SysSleep iWait > 'START /B myjob.cmd' >end > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Web One Internet http://webone.com.au (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 13-Oct-99 09:21:20 To: All 13-Oct-99 10:22:20 Subj: antivirus software for OS2 From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) James F. Marshall wrote in a message to Steen Bondo: JFM> Virus definition files? _ _ _ O / _ _C_U_T_ _B_E_G_I_N_ _ O \ CLEAN.DAT = Virus definition file [C:\neta\VSCANOS2]d clean* Volume in drive C is SB_1547MB Serial number is 2730:3C14 Directory of C:\neta\VSCANOS2\clean* 15-09-99 4.04 216.479 0 CLEAN.DAT 216.479 bytes in 1 file and 0 dirs 216.576 bytes allocated 797.349.888 bytes free _ _ _ O / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O \ C U T E N D I'm nut sure what your question is - but I have downloaded , which includes: _ _ _ O / _ _C_U_T_ _B_E_G_I_N_ _ O \ clean.dat | 216479| 188064|15-09-99|04:04 file_id.diz | 110| 107|15-09-99|04:04 internet.dat | 12124| 2475|15-10-98|03:20 mcscript.ini | 5538| 1869|15-09-99|04:04 names.dat | 219656| 202546|15-09-99|04:04 packing.lst | 1318| 605|15-09-99|04:04 pkgdesc.ini | 490| 236|15-09-99|04:04 readme.txt | 41323| 14634|15-09-99|04:04 reseller.txt | 47702| 14710|15-09-99|04:04 scan.dat | 1144069| 1062720|15-09-99|04:04 validate.exe | 51200| 24173|15-09-99|04:04 _ _ _ O / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O \ C U T E N D And this load I simply copy into C:\neta\VSCANOS2, where the 'old' installation were. -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 13-Oct-99 10:47:07 To: All 13-Oct-99 10:22:20 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 19:37:34, postmaster@[127.0.0.1] a Úcrit dans un message: > In <7tvldd$t4g$1@yggdrasil.utfors.se>, on 10/12/99 > at 03:51 PM, anti-spam.d89-tgl@nada.kth.se (Tobias Gladh) said: > > >I use the same approach (it's very effective), except that I throw away > >everything that isn't addressed to me. This means I have to have > >additional filters for the mailing lists before this filter, but it's > >definitely worth it. > >I never see the spam, not even the subject, thereby defeating their > >purpose. > > >As an aside, what mailer are you using? I use MR/2 ICE, and I like the > >filtering > >it has. > > Same here. > > How do you set up your filter to trash everything that is not addressed to > you personally? I'd like to do this too. Filter Description: Not Mailed to Me Search Type: Simple Search Areas for: To and: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com Process When Message: Doesn't match Filter Type: Inbound Desired Actions: Copy to folder "Pitched" Disposition: Keep message out of the inbox Put this filter at the bottom of your list of correspondents, so you don't lose a piece of mail from someone you know. And I do my filtering as a two-stage process, starting with the "Not Mailed To Me" filter. I periodically go through my "Pitched" folder to see if there are any multiple mailings with "From" domains or other elements I can identify to and search on, to add to my "Spammers" filter, which *is* a PreFetch filter. Works great, and I *never* conceal my email address in USENET postings. Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tim.timmins@bcs.org.uk 13-Oct-99 11:44:17 To: All 13-Oct-99 10:22:20 Subj: Re: HOWTO: chat scripts? From: Tim Timmins ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/internet/ftp/client/jsm285r.zip Brian@webone.com.au wrote: > JASMINE HAS to be the best way to do this. > > Look for jsm280r.zip on Hobbes etc. > > Written in Java it is quick and you can FTP toa server or copy to a disk. > > Brian > > <380335B2.EDB694B@powertech.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo writes: > >Paul Ratcliffe wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:27:02 GMT, Marco Shaw wrote: > >> > >> >I'm new to OS/2 admin. I need to develop a script that gets files newer > >> >than x date, and FTPs all these files to an FTP server, and this must be > >> >done every 4 hours. > >> > >> You need REXX and a library package called RxSock. This all comes with Warp 4. > >> > > > >It may also be useful to run SWITCHRX.CMD to change to the new Object REXX. It has > >some new functions which are very useful, such as access to semaphores. It is also > >very fast and convenient to use the container classes (tables, arrays, queues &c) > >to organize the files you need to transmit. > > > >It is easier to use the REXX ftp API if you do not need all the socket > >capabilities. > >From the online documentation: > > > > The REXX FTP API package is contained in the file rxftp.dll. This dynamic link > >library (DLL) must be placed in a > > directory listed in your LIBPATH statement in your CONFIG.SYS file. To use the > >functions in the REXX FTP API > > package, execute this REXX code: > > > > rc = RxFuncAdd("FtpLoadFuncs","rxFtp","FtpLoadFuncs") > > rc = FtpLoadFuncs() > > > > To unload the DLL, you should first call the FtpDropFuncs() function, then exit > >all CMD.EXE shells. After exiting all > > the command shells, the DLL will be dropped by OS/2 and can be deleted or > >replaced. > > > > > > > >> > >> >What kind of scheduling mechanism does OS/2 (Warp 4) have? > >> > >> It doesn't, but there is a choice of Cron-like utilties on Hobbes which will > >> do the job. > >> > > > >It certainly does! I have used the scheduler in the bonus pack for years with no > >problems. It will allow a wide range of different scheduling options (like every n > >days, third wednesday in every month, or whatever). > > > >It is also possible to do the scheduling in REXX if it is fairly straightforward. > >Your batch control program can be started from the startup folder, and stay in the > >background like any other daemon. > > > >/* REXX timing loop for daily task */ > >iScheduled = TIME('S', '22:14:00') /* Convert scheduled time 22:14 to seconds > >after midnight */ > >do forever > > iNow = TIME('s') /* Seconds since midnight */ > > iWait = iScheduled - iNow > > if iWait < 0 then iWait = iWait + TIME('S', '23:59:59') /* Not until tomorrow */ > > > > SAY 'Wait' iWait 'seconds, until' TIME('N', iScheduled, 'S') > > CALL SysSleep iWait > > 'START /B myjob.cmd' > >end > > > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 13-Oct-99 10:24:27 To: All 13-Oct-99 10:22:20 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:20:31, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) a Úcrit dans un message: snip > > I am still using the IBM Antivirus program, but it is getting rather > old...I am > still looking for something, at least as good as the IBM AV program > (ie, it *works*, and there is little, or no system impact). Me, too. And I keep asking this question but never see a suitable answer: If the IBMAV program I paid for continues to function properly, and if *all* it needs to keep running into the future is updates to the virus signature list, and if such signature lists are generated for other programs, why can't someone translate one of those new signature lists into IBMAV format to run here? I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: 900ss@no-spam.dod.no 13-Oct-99 15:04:10 To: All 13-Oct-99 14:36:18 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: 900ss@no-spam.dod.no On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:24:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:20:31, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) > a ?crit dans un message: > > snip > > > > I am still using the IBM Antivirus program, but it is getting rather > > old...I am > > still looking for something, at least as good as the IBM AV program > > (ie, it *works*, and there is little, or no system impact). > > Me, too. And I keep asking this question but never see a suitable answer: > > If the IBMAV program I paid for continues to function properly, and if > *all* it needs to keep running into the future is updates to the virus > signature list, and if such signature lists are generated for other > programs, why can't someone translate one of those new signature lists into > IBMAV format to run here? Well, the signature files are on different format and developed diferently from AntiVirus firm to AI firm. Another thing is that alot of the new viruses will not be detected by the old systems, because they need new and improwed ways to parse a file to find the new virus, mostly because of the encrypded and polymorph ways. > I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the > conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and > IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. Have you used Norman Virus Control? I used IBMAV a long time, but use Norman now. (and they are coming with a Real-time scanner as well if you like that). just my .2$ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: aldel@attglobal.net 13-Oct-99 11:21:15 To: All 13-Oct-99 14:36:18 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) In , on 10/13/99 at 12:20 AM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: >On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:29:00, "Theo Sinnema" wrote: >> Hi there all! >> >> I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in >> native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Theo Sinnema >> >To date, there are no known viruses that affect OS/2 (other than a >couple that were created in a lab, that never got loose). On the other >hand, I have heard that there IS a virus, just for WinNT, which might be >translatable into something that could nail OS/2 (sure hope not). >I have no idea, if it is any good (ie. *works* ), but I did look at, >what appears to be a promising program, that is not anywhere near ready >for "prime time", at: > http://www.kasperskylab.ru/eng/products/download.htm >It is difficult to tell, exactly what this program has/does as most of >the documentation seems to be in Russian. It does install some sort of >driver, when OS/2 first starts up, that I assume is some kind of >resident OS/2 thing. It does not install anything specific for >DOS/WinOS2 sessions. The file scan function also seems to be very slow >(about 45 minutes, for something that takes the IBM Antivirus program >about 10 minutes). >This WAS the demo program, that I was using, and there is some >indication that the "real" program does a few things much better than >the demo. >Anyone got the "real" program? Is it any better??? Does it work? >I am still using the IBM Antivirus program, but it is getting rather >old, and Symantec is really dragging their heels on releasing a single >user version of NAV for OS/2 (it exists, but it is VERY difficult to >get, and some people have indicated that it is very similar to the >WIndows version -> read "doesn't work all that well" IMO <- ). I am >still looking for something, at least as good as the IBM AV program (ie, >it *works*, and there is little, or no system impact). >Anybody??? >****************************** >From the PC of Doug Bissett >doug.bissett at attglobal.net >The " at " must be changed to "@" >****************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------- aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) ----------------------------------------------------------- How about F=PROT???? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 13-Oct-99 17:11:17 To: All 13-Oct-99 16:43:24 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 01:43:25, "James F. Marshall" wrote: > On 13 Oct 1999 00:20:31 GMT, Doug Bissett wrote: > > :>Russian. > > Forgive my cold war fears, but I'm not sure I'd want a potential trojan > horse on my computer set to go off upon seeing, not necessarily a virus, > but, say, a "meaningless" string of 11 digits in a subject header. > IMO, if the Russians (or anybody else) can come up with a superior antivirus program, I will use it. It is interesting, that a few years ago, the Germans "discovered" OS/2, and have produced some GREAT software for it. Now, the Russians have also "discovered" OS/2, and seem to be producing some GREAT software for it (AWget, is a perfect example). If only the US would "discover" OS/2, we might get out of the Windows rut, and everybody would be better off. Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 13-Oct-99 17:11:19 To: All 13-Oct-99 16:43:24 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:24:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: ..snip... > If the IBMAV program I paid for continues to function properly, and if > *all* it needs to keep running into the future is updates to the virus > signature list, and if such signature lists are generated for other > programs, why can't someone translate one of those new signature lists into > IBMAV format to run here? > > I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the > conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and > IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. > > > Good luck, > > Buddy > > Buddy Donnelly > donnelly@tampabay.rr.com > Unfortunately, it is not all that simple. Newer viruses require different approaches to finding, and fixing them. That means that updates to the base program are required, in order to implement those new techniques. I will use IBM AV, until I find something better, or it just quites working. ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bdavis@fn.net 13-Oct-99 18:46:07 To: All 13-Oct-99 16:43:25 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis) On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:21:30, aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) wrote: > In , on 10/13/99 > at 12:20 AM, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) said: > > >On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:29:00, "Theo Sinnema" wrote: > > >> Hi there all! > >> > >> I am looking for antivirus software which also contains a resident shield in > >> native OS2-sessions. PLease help me with this! > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > >> > >> Theo Sinnema > >> > > >To date, there are no known viruses that affect OS/2 (other than a > >couple that were created in a lab, that never got loose). On the other > >hand, I have heard that there IS a virus, just for WinNT, which might be > >translatable into something that could nail OS/2 (sure hope not). > > >I have no idea, if it is any good (ie. *works* ), but I did look at, > >what appears to be a promising program, that is not anywhere near ready > >for "prime time", at: > > http://www.kasperskylab.ru/eng/products/download.htm > > >It is difficult to tell, exactly what this program has/does as most of > >the documentation seems to be in Russian. It does install some sort of > >driver, when OS/2 first starts up, that I assume is some kind of > >resident OS/2 thing. It does not install anything specific for > >DOS/WinOS2 sessions. The file scan function also seems to be very slow > >(about 45 minutes, for something that takes the IBM Antivirus program > >about 10 minutes). > > >This WAS the demo program, that I was using, and there is some > >indication that the "real" program does a few things much better than > >the demo. > > >Anyone got the "real" program? Is it any better??? Does it work? > > >I am still using the IBM Antivirus program, but it is getting rather > >old, and Symantec is really dragging their heels on releasing a single > >user version of NAV for OS/2 (it exists, but it is VERY difficult to > >get, and some people have indicated that it is very similar to the > >WIndows version -> read "doesn't work all that well" IMO <- ). I am > >still looking for something, at least as good as the IBM AV program (ie, > >it *works*, and there is little, or no system impact). > > >Anybody??? > >****************************** > >From the PC of Doug Bissett > >doug.bissett at attglobal.net > >The " at " must be changed to "@" > >****************************** > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) > ----------------------------------------------------------- > How about F=PROT???? Sure can't beat the price, works for me. Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 13-Oct-99 19:55:04 To: All 13-Oct-99 16:43:25 Subj: ping.exe From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) Hi Syntaks: C:\MPTN\BIN\PING.EXE [-?drv] [size [packets]] Hvor: d - Aktiv‚r debug. r - G† uden om de normale rutetabeller. v - Vis flere oplysninger. Inklud‚r alle modtagne ICMP-pakker. host - Destination size - St½rrelse p† datadelen af pakken. packets - Antal pakker med echo-foresp½rgsler, der skal sendes. PING.EXE www.cwcom.net 2 2>&1 1 ^^^^ So what does these parametres - something with a file called "1", but what is the puppose..? -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rgriech@swol.de 13-Oct-99 21:21:04 To: All 13-Oct-99 16:43:25 Subj: Re: ping.exe From: rgriech@swol.de (Hardy Griech) On 13 Oct 99 19:55:08 BST, sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) wrote: : > PING.EXE www.cwcom.net 2 2>&1 1 > ^^^^ > So what does these parametres - something with a file called "1", but > what is the puppose..? '2>&1' redirects stderr to stdout, i.e. error message usually not appearing in a redirected output will then appear in it. Hardy -- VSoup Homepage: http://home.pages.de/~vsoup/ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: not organized (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jfloewen@artsci.wustl.edu 13-Oct-99 12:56:08 To: All 13-Oct-99 19:52:21 Subj: PMSpool and Graphics Printer From: jfloewen@artsci.wustl.edu (Joe Loewenstein) I seem to have done something to my printing sub-system. Trying to print out from an old PIM (Arcadia / Workplace Companion), I found that I couldn't. Then I discovered that my graphics printer icon was gone. I rebooted and before the WPS loaded I was told that PMSpool wasn't working. The afflicted computer is at my office, so I can't give much more detail. What do I need to look for in order to diagnose this. I'm devoutly hoping that I won't need to do a reinstall! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Washington University in St. Louis (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 13-Oct-99 23:23:07 To: All 13-Oct-99 21:24:25 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:04:20, 900ss@no-spam.dod.no a Úcrit dans un message: > > Well, the signature files are on different format and developed > diferently from AntiVirus firm to AI firm. Which gave rise to my suggestion that someone do a simple format conversion on them. > Another thing is that alot > of the new viruses will not be detected by the old systems, because > they need new and improwed ways to parse a file to find the new virus, > mostly because of the encrypded and polymorph ways. Most of the "new viruses" I've taken note of were using highly proprietary beds for their action, such as Micro$oft Word and Outlook. > > > I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the > > conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and > > IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. > > Have you used Norman Virus Control? > I used IBMAV a long time, but use Norman now. (and they are coming > with a Real-time scanner as well if you like that). No, I haven't heard of "Norman". Does it work in OS/2? Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cubie123@no.spam.ix.netcom.com 14-Oct-99 01:44:22 To: All 14-Oct-99 03:59:08 Subj: test From: cubie123@no.spam.ix.netcom.com (cubie) test remove the anti spam 123; and the no.spam. thanx. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Netcom (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au 14-Oct-99 04:56:25 To: All 14-Oct-99 03:59:08 Subj: Feature installer woes From: steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au G'day all I've downloaded Feature Installer Ver 1.2.5 from Software Choice, set up a C:\features\fisetup\ directory structure as instructed, unzipped firunpkg.zip into the \fisetup directory and run fisetup.exe. What do I do next??? My aim is to use the Feature Installer to install the latest Java stuff from Software Choice. Am I missing something obvious here? Cheers Steve Clark steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dept of Natural Resources & Environment, Melbourn (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 13-Oct-99 23:13:17 To: All 14-Oct-99 03:59:08 Subj: ping.exe From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) Hardy Griech wrote in a message to Steen Bondo: > PING.EXE www.cwcom.net 2 2>&1 1 > ^^^^ '2>&1' redirects stderr to stdout, i.e. error message usually not HG> appearing in a redirected output will then appear in it. Aha - maybe one should give "1" a more meaning full name.... HG> VSoup Homepage: http://home.pages.de/~vsoup/ Oh.. and I did actually find these parametres in a :-) -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: 900ss@no-spam.dod.no 14-Oct-99 07:48:29 To: All 14-Oct-99 05:36:09 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: 900ss@no-spam.dod.no On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 23:23:14, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:04:20, 900ss@no-spam.dod.no a ?crit dans un message: > > > > > Well, the signature files are on different format and developed > > diferently from AntiVirus firm to AI firm. > > Which gave rise to my suggestion that someone do a simple format conversion > on them. > > > Another thing is that alot > > of the new viruses will not be detected by the old systems, because > > they need new and improwed ways to parse a file to find the new virus, > > mostly because of the encrypded and polymorph ways. > > Most of the "new viruses" I've taken note of were using highly proprietary > beds for their action, such as Micro$oft Word and Outlook. > But may still require new detection routines in the scanningengine itself, not only in the signature files. > > > > > I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the > > > conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and > > > IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. > > > > Have you used Norman Virus Control? > > I used IBMAV a long time, but use Norman now. (and they are coming > > with a Real-time scanner as well if you like that). > > No, I haven't heard of "Norman". Does it work in OS/2? Yes it certainly does, and they are working on a realtime version as well (I have an alpha version) and it's fast, much faster than mcafee. -D- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 14-Oct-99 02:43:12 To: All 14-Oct-99 10:29:21 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In , bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis) writes: >On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:21:30, aldel@attglobal.net (ALDEL) wrote: > >> How about F=PROT???? >Sure can't beat the price, works for me. F-Prot's very nice, and free for personal use, but the free version is DOS only and won't see or look in non-8.3 filenames or directories. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl 14-Oct-99 13:09:14 To: All 14-Oct-99 10:29:21 Subj: Re: Feature installer woes From: Henk kelder Steve, Run install.exe as comes out of firunpkg.zip. Henk steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au wrote: > > G'day all > > I've downloaded Feature Installer Ver 1.2.5 from Software Choice, set up a > C:\features\fisetup\ directory structure as instructed, unzipped firunpkg.zip > into the \fisetup directory and run fisetup.exe. > > What do I do next??? > > My aim is to use the Feature Installer to install the latest Java stuff from > Software Choice. Am I missing something obvious here? > > Cheers > > Steve Clark > steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au -- Remove nospam when replying.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: capgemini.nl (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: horseman@ibm.net 14-Oct-99 13:03:19 To: All 14-Oct-99 14:36:09 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: Tony Wright Doug Bissett wrote: > On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:24:54, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy > Donnelly) wrote: > > ..snip... > > If the IBMAV program I paid for continues to function properly, and if > > *all* it needs to keep running into the future is updates to the virus > > signature list, and if such signature lists are generated for other > > programs, why can't someone translate one of those new signature lists into > > IBMAV format to run here? > > > > I'd pay for either the updated lists, or the program that did the > > conversion. I've tested just about every AV program for every platform and > > IBMAV works better for my multi-platform work than anything else. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > Buddy > > > > Buddy Donnelly > > donnelly@tampabay.rr.com > > > > Unfortunately, it is not all that simple. Newer viruses require > different approaches to finding, and fixing them. That means that > updates to the base program are required, in order to implement those > new techniques. "heuristically" speaking that is ? > > > I will use IBM AV, until I find something better, or it just quites > working. > ****************************** > From the PC of Doug Bissett > doug.bissett at attglobal.net > The " at " must be changed to "@" > ****************************** -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Equi-Tek CompCon (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: norrisg@linkline.com 14-Oct-99 07:43:07 To: All 14-Oct-99 14:36:09 Subj: Re: Feature installer woes From: "Graham C. Norris" You download and install a product. Or were you expecting it to go out and find things for you? Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: no-spam@no-thanks.net 14-Oct-99 12:30:00 To: All 14-Oct-99 16:31:18 Subj: Flight From: Some Guy Hi. Does anyone know where I can find training for OS2 Flight? I would prefer on-line, but classroom-based in southern Ontario, Canada is OK too. In a pinch, an URL for online documentation would do. Thanks Jim --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 14-Oct-99 17:29:10 To: All 14-Oct-99 16:31:18 Subj: Re: antivirus software for OS2 From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:48:59, 900ss@no-spam.dod.no wrote: > Yes it certainly does, and they are working on a realtime version as > well (I have an alpha version) and it's fast, much faster than mcafee. > > -D- > Well, faster than McAfee would not be all that difficult (IMO). Do you have a web site, where one can investigate Norman??? Thanks... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 14-Oct-99 17:29:11 To: All 14-Oct-99 16:31:18 Subj: Re: Feature installer woes From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 04:56:51, steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au wrote: > What do I do next??? > > My aim is to use the Feature Installer to install the latest Java stuff from > Software Choice. Am I missing something obvious here? > > Cheers > > Steve Clark > steve.clark@nre.vic.gov.au Perhaps, you should run the INSTALL thing that comes with the JAVA install files (which you did unzip WITH, at least. -d to recreate the directory structure of the instalation files, right?). Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu 14-Oct-99 22:53:04 To: All 14-Oct-99 21:38:25 Subj: Re: Flight From: hunters@thunder.indstate.edu In article <38060508.38D2634D@no-thanks.net>, no-spam@no-thanks.net wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find training for OS2 Flight? I would > prefer on-line, but classroom-based in southern Ontario, Canada is OK > too. In a pinch, an URL for online documentation would do. What the heck is "OS2 Flight"?! I haven't heard of such a product. Anyone care to enlighten me? :) -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * |Warpstock '99 | Oct 16-17| hunters@thunder.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Atlanta GA | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fledermaus@attglobal.net 15-Oct-99 07:31:05 To: All 15-Oct-99 10:27:11 Subj: Re: Feature installer woes From: fledermaus Ref: Append at 17:29:23 on 99/10/14 GMT (by doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) I spent about an hour finding JAVA, then another hour finding the installer. The unzip of installer did not work, so I used prior version of unzip. The install was somewhat crazy but it seemed to work. "" There is a great lack of simplicity and a wonderful increase of bloatedness with each "improvement" of software. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: q4543645@fernuni-hagen.de 15-Oct-99 13:34:09 To: All 15-Oct-99 10:27:11 Subj: csort? From: Christian Kuhn Hi, i have used OS/2 for two years until 1998. Now i have to set up an OS/2-Machine, and i remember there was a tool csort.exe for sorting config.sys. But i can't find it. Can anyone send the file or an URL where i can get it? Thanks a lot. Kindly regards, Chris --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Saarland, Computing Center, Germany (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sbo@hehe.com 15-Oct-99 13:21:25 To: All 15-Oct-99 14:34:16 Subj: csort? From: sbo@hehe.com (Steen Bondo) Christian Kuhn wrote in a message to All: CK> OS/2-Machine, and i remember there was a tool csort.exe for sorting It's in your mail box.(Christian Kuhn ) -- Steen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donm@ftel.net 15-Oct-99 19:58:15 To: All 15-Oct-99 21:58:14 Subj: Re: csort? From: donm@ftel.net (Don Morse) In message <3807113B.3DD88BAE@QNo.de> - Christian Kuhn writes: :> :>Hi, :> :>i have used OS/2 for two years until 1998. Now i have to set up an :>OS/2-Machine, and i remember there was a tool csort.exe for sorting :>config.sys. But i can't find it. Can anyone send the file or an URL :>where i can get it? Thanks a lot. :> :>Kindly regards, :>Chris I'm sure it's on Hobbes... hobbes.nmsu.edu ******************************************************** If a million monkeys on typewriters can eventually type out the Bible, given enough time. Then Bill Gates had 25 monkeys and a week! ******************************************************** dmorse@pacificnet.net using Merlin and EmTec News ICQ 245937, AOL IM merlinof2 www.blackpalace.com ******************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Franklin interNet http://www.franklin.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bschwand@dvart.com 15-Oct-99 13:47:08 To: All 15-Oct-99 21:58:15 Subj: Re: Print to graphic [was Re: METAFILE CONVERTION] From: bruno schwander the best in my opinion is to print to a postscript file using a postscript printer driver. then use ghostscript to create an EPS file from it. I love postscript, if anything goes wrong, you can always look at the source code :-) bruno Mat Kramer wrote: > A more general question: is there a printer driver that will allow > output to be saved as a file and then imported into Word 97 as a > graphic? Word will import HPGL -- which driver should I use for that? > > bv wrote: > > You could get the Windows metafile into an OS/2 metafile format simply by > > printing it under WinOS/2 and intercepting the spoolfile. The spoolfile is an > > OS/2 metafile, but it is probably not in a format your application will be able > > to handle. > > > > I think the best way is to convert them to a format like EPS, and exchange > > that. This should work for some types of metafiles. > > -- > Mat Kramer [MekTek] mek@compuserve.com > VyperHelp: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mek/vyper.htm --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dmaceld@i-55.com 15-Oct-99 16:36:29 To: All 15-Oct-99 21:58:15 Subj: Re: Spamming the Spammers! From: Mac Eld The only problem with that is many spammers use fake addresses. Your idea will backfire as you get hundreds of 'undeliverable' notices back. :-( I may be wrong but I suspect that many spammers who do use legit addresses want you to respond. That validates the accuracy of your address. Then you'll never stop getting spam from them and whoever else they share your address with. I've found the best solution is to just ignore the msgs. Ray Appleby wrote: > I'm getting a little fed up with the SPAM that I get every day in my > mail box. Everything from so-called "FREE" trips to pyramid schemes. > > I would like to begin replying to these SPAMMERS with a warning that > if I receive any more unsolicited mail from them that I will send > hundreds of replies in response until they remove me from their > mailing list. > > I use Post Road Mailer and I suppose you could probably accomplish > this with some of the features in the program but I am not a > programmer. Is there any program available that will work with PRM to > do what I want? > > Best Regards, > Ray Appleby rappleby@cadvision.com > [Team OS/2] Multitasking at OS/2 Warp4 Speed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bschwand@dvart.com 15-Oct-99 14:39:28 To: All 15-Oct-99 21:58:15 Subj: Re: Pipe to a null device From: bruno schwander can you change that file name ? if not, I just thought of something: use TVFS, it allows you to make links to files you could probably then make a link named whatever_logging_filename pointing to /dev/null bruno javester@my-deja.com wrote: > Guys, > Is there a way to issue a command that will capture output destined for > a file to a null device? > > We have this program that has a logging function that cannot be turned > off. > > Problem is, after an hour or two, it fills up the hard drive and I'm > not interested in the log anyway. > > Not only does it fill up the drive, I'm convinced its a performance > bottleneck since it has to do I/O for each and every operation. > > Any help will be appreciated. > > Thanks! > Joel > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+