comp.os.os2.beta (Usenet) Saturday, 09-Oct-1999 to Friday, 15-Oct-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: srd@x.mcmail.com 11-Oct-99 00:38:02 To: All 10-Oct-99 21:15:25 Subj: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: Steve Drewell Today, I noticed a few problems with PMView beta 2.00.15859 but before mentioning anything the the author, I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm that a problem exists or not. When I do a screen dump, the resulting image is not identical to the original. Text in particular shows a difference where, depending on the font size, text appears bolder or slightly fuzzy/blurred in the captured image. When a full screen dump is taken, pressing F3 to view the captured image full screen results in what appears to be a slightly "squashed" image where the captured image is slightly down at the top and slightly up at the bottom. It should overlay the original image exactly. Again, there is a slight blurriness to the image. When a full screen image is captured, image info indicates that the size is 1152x864. When the image is saved (takes a very long time....anyone else noticed this?) and reloaded, image info indicates that the size is 1163x864. Where did those 11 extra pixels in the horizontal direction come from? It's been many months since I last did a screen dump, but back then there wasn't a problem (can't remember which version I was using). So, if another PMView beta tester can be kind enough to confirm or deny that a problem exists, I'd appreciate it. In case it's relevant, I'm using an original 2MB Millennium with v2.31.100 drivers running at 1152x864x16. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Drewell (Remove x. from address to reply) _____________________________________________________________ Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 22 processes with 120 threads. Machine uptime is 1 day, 13 hours, 40 mins and 49 secs. _____________________________________________________________ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 10-Oct-99 19:45:04 To: All 10-Oct-99 21:15:25 Subj: Re: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: "/2 User" Where can I down load that beta? On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:38:05 +0100, Steve Drewell wrote: >Today, I noticed a few problems with PMView beta 2.00.15859 but before >mentioning anything the the author, I'd appreciate it if someone could >confirm that a problem exists or not. > >When I do a screen dump, the resulting image is not identical to the >original. Text in particular shows a difference where, depending on the >font size, text appears bolder or slightly fuzzy/blurred in the captured >image. > >When a full screen dump is taken, pressing F3 to view the captured image >full screen results in what appears to be a slightly "squashed" image >where the captured image is slightly down at the top and slightly up at >the bottom. It should overlay the original image exactly. Again, there is >a slight blurriness to the image. > >When a full screen image is captured, image info indicates that the size >is 1152x864. When the image is saved (takes a very long time....anyone >else noticed this?) and reloaded, image info indicates that the size is >1163x864. Where did those 11 extra pixels in the horizontal direction come >from? > >It's been many months since I last did a screen dump, but back then there >wasn't a problem (can't remember which version I was using). So, if >another PMView beta tester can be kind enough to confirm or deny that a >problem exists, I'd appreciate it. > >In case it's relevant, I'm using an original 2MB Millennium with v2.31.100 >drivers running at 1152x864x16. > >Cheers, >Steve >-- >Steve Drewell (Remove x. from address to reply) >_____________________________________________________________ >Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 22 processes with 120 threads. >Machine uptime is 1 day, 13 hours, 40 mins and 49 secs. >_____________________________________________________________ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: srd@x.mcmail.com 11-Oct-99 01:10:13 To: All 11-Oct-99 03:59:11 Subj: Re: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: Steve Drewell On Sun, 10 Oct 1999 at 19:45 (EDT), "/2 User" wrote: >Where can I down load that beta? If your a registered user, it may be worth taking a look at http://www.pmview.com. However, it's been mentioned that PMView 2.0 will be released very soon, so even if you are registered, you may be better to wait a week or two and get the non-beta version. Cheers, Steve -- Steve Drewell (Remove x. from address to reply) _____________________________________________________________ Using IBM OS/2 Warp 4 running 22 processes with 119 threads. Machine uptime is 1 day, 14 hours, 16 mins and 29 secs. _____________________________________________________________ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: norrisg@linkline.com 10-Oct-99 18:46:23 To: All 11-Oct-99 03:59:11 Subj: Re: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: "Graham C. Norris" If you actually want a response, I suggest you post it to the mailing list. This is a closed beta, Peter isn't going to go hunting around newsgroups looking for bug reports. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dana@randomc.com 11-Oct-99 02:46:24 To: All 11-Oct-99 10:31:03 Subj: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA From: dana we use os2 all the time, and unix also. ***** ************************************************** "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it makes friends with." On 6 Oct 1999 tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: > Date: 6 Oct 1999 02:57:53 GMT > From: tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu > Newsgroups: atl.forsale, comp.os.os2.advocacy, comp.os.os2.apps, > comp.os.os2.beta, comp.os.os2.bugs > Subject: Re: Warpstock '99 Atlanta, GA USA > > Sam Brown writes: > > > shit wake up nobody uses os/2 any more?? > > Why are you using question marks at the end of a declarative sentence? > > By the way, somebody does use OS/2. Looks like the readers here are > not the ones who need to wake up. > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Comstar Communications (comstar.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 10-Oct-99 22:44:13 To: All 11-Oct-99 10:31:03 Subj: Re: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: "/2 User" On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:10:26 +0100, Steve Drewell wrote: >>Where can I down load that beta? > >If your a registered user, it may be worth taking a look at >http://www.pmview.com. However, it's been mentioned that PMView 2.0 will >be released very soon, so even if you are registered, you may be better to >wait a week or two and get the non-beta version. I am registered for the 1x version, so I will be heading over, and book marking as well. thanks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 11-Oct-99 10:02:05 To: All 11-Oct-99 10:31:03 Subj: Re: PMView v2.00.15859 - Screen Capture Problems From: Steve Drewell On Sun, 10 Oct 1999, Graham C. Norris wrote: î If you actually want a response, I suggest you post it to the mailing î list. This is a closed beta, Peter isn't going to go hunting around î newsgroups looking for bug reports. Good idea, and one I thought of immediately after posting the original message. I have now signed up to the list, although a bit late I'll admit, and upon accepatnce will resend my original message. Cheers, Steve --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Western Geophysical, Houston, TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tsikora@htfds1.ct.home.com 11-Oct-99 14:17:22 To: All 11-Oct-99 14:43:19 Subj: IBM Linux! From: Ted Sikora Hi, Are there any newsgroups for IBM's Linux apps yet? I installed the VisualAge for Java Linux edition and am surprised at how stable it is. I had a few problems with the JDK-1.1.6 for Linux but otherwise it's fine. I have ViaVoice also. Looks like IBM may be switching allegiance to a new OS. I can't help but feel OS/2 is definitely at it's end. Regards, -- Ted Sikora tsikora@tiac.net http://tsikora.tiac.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Jtl Development (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 11-Oct-99 09:42:03 To: All 11-Oct-99 14:43:19 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: lifedata@xxvol.com Ted Sikora said: >I have ViaVoice also. Looks like IBM may be switching allegiance >to a new OS. I can't help but feel OS/2 is definitely at it's end. Maybe. In any event, IBM saw bucks in Linux apps., but I'd bet good money they will drop Linux as soon as the cash curve slips. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tsikora@htfds1.ct.home.com 11-Oct-99 18:02:07 To: All 11-Oct-99 17:05:23 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: Ted Sikora lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > > Ted Sikora said: > > >I have ViaVoice also. Looks like IBM may be switching allegiance > >to a new OS. I can't help but feel OS/2 is definitely at it's end. > > Maybe. In any event, IBM saw bucks in Linux apps., but I'd bet good money they > will drop Linux as soon as the cash curve slips. Of course. As for OS/2 I think IBM was surprised this past year. They were hoping to bring OS/2 to a quiet end but lo and behold sales increased. In fact sales were well above their predictions. Unfortunately they do not know what to do. OS/2 does not figure in their future corporate picture so now they may be tempted to deliberately kill it off. Software Choice will no longer be free, including Netscape. Actually with continued fixpaks and possibly a lower price($150 for 2-3 years like a new release) this would be a good idea. Provided OS/2 is continually updated(wholeheartedly) along with current additions such as Netscape, Java, and tools like Visual Age for Java. Sort of like Linux and Open source projects ie; Gnome, Mozilla, etc. No actual releases but continual development. This could be the future for all software. > > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. -- Ted Sikora tsikora@tiac.net http://tsikora.tiac.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Jtl Development (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 12-Oct-99 19:38:04 To: All 12-Oct-99 21:21:12 Subj: Re: IBM wants us to pay for java and netscape???? From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article , Ariel wrote: >On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > >> Now there's something I'd very much like to see in Netscape >> preferences. The ability to turn off wiggle graphics and NOT get >> piles of error messages!!!!!!! > >To make gif animations stop after one cycle, read this page: >http://simmons.starkville.ms.us/tips/081097/ > >In short, search for NETSCAPE2.0 and for ANIMEXTS1.0 and change them to be >something else - I just changed the . to a , (in netscape.exe). > > -Ariel > >PS. Use a binary safe editor. > FANTASTIC! IT WORKS! In netscape 4.61ga strong encryption you won't find the exact strings above. You will find NETSCAPE2.0 and ANIMEXS1. though and altering on character disables animations after one iteration! THANKS for the tip, Ariel! -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! 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Will --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_ktk@netlabs.org 12-Oct-99 18:05:10 To: All 12-Oct-99 23:18:16 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: "Adrian Gschwend" On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:17:45 GMT, Ted Sikora wrote: >to a new OS. I can't help but feel OS/2 is definitely at it's end. come on, we had enough of this discussion in the past ten years... some people will continue using OS/2 (for example me) and I am more than happy with it. cu Adrian --- Adrian Gschwend @ OS/2 Netlabs ICQ: 22419590 ktk@netlabs.org ------- The OS/2 OpenSource Project: http://www.netlabs.org --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OS/2 Netlabs (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arnews@dsgml.com 12-Oct-99 15:00:12 To: All 12-Oct-99 23:18:16 Subj: Re: IBM wants us to pay for java and netscape???? From: Ariel On Wed, 29 Sep 1999 lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > Now there's something I'd very much like to see in Netscape > preferences. The ability to turn off wiggle graphics and NOT get > piles of error messages!!!!!!! To make gif animations stop after one cycle, read this page: http://simmons.starkville.ms.us/tips/081097/ In short, search for NETSCAPE2.0 and for ANIMEXTS1.0 and change them to be something else - I just changed the . to a , (in netscape.exe). -Ariel PS. Use a binary safe editor. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: omurata@ga2.so-net.ne.jp 13-Oct-99 22:51:08 To: All 13-Oct-99 14:36:18 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: Tadashi Ohmura > > Are there any newsgroups for IBM's Linux apps yet? I installed the > VisualAge for Java Linux edition and am surprised at how stable it is. > I had a few problems with the JDK-1.1.6 for Linux but otherwise it's > fine. I have ViaVoice also. If you had installed JDK-1.1.6 for Linux, try IBM's JDK-1.1.8 for Linux also. http://www.ibm.com/java/jdk/download/index.html -- Tadashi Ohmura ( $BBgB<(B $BCi;K(B ) E-mail : omurata@ga2.so-net.ne.jp 5-3-4 kaijin Funabashi City Chiba Pref. 273 JAPAN --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Stella (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ggbkjt@eggman-network.hypermart.net 14-Oct-99 02:01:05 To: All 14-Oct-99 03:59:07 Subj: Stop others from using your computer!!! 1164 From: ggbkjt@eggman-network.hypermart.net That's right....stop others from using your computer now! Desktop Blocker will password protect your Windows system so that nobody except for you will be able to access your desktop. Keep that co-worker off your computer, keep the babysitter off the Internet, and keep the wife from discovering your "collection"(you shouldn't be looking at that stuff anyway). Desktop Blocker is a FREE download at: http://www.eggman.net/desktopblocker Take a couple seconds to view our SCREENSHOT: http://www.eggman.net/software/dbss.htm Lock-up your desktop today!!! -EggMan Network obeymmkrbwcifikqwqnhcudrtryrfgzxqnkdcleqjirojevqwpbvdqvwzjoclzftubtgywpwdpdpiwt jziihszflidesh --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 13-Oct-99 19:53:28 To: All 14-Oct-99 03:59:08 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: "Doug Darrow" On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 18:02:15 GMT, Ted Sikora wrote: > Actually with continued >fixpaks and possibly a lower price($150 for 2-3 years like a new >release) this would be a good idea. Provided OS/2 is continually >updated(wholeheartedly) along with current additions such as Netscape, >Java, and tools like Visual Age for Java. Sort of like Linux and Open >source projects ie; Gnome, Mozilla, etc. No actual releases but >continual development. This could be the future for all software. I'll believe this one when I start seeing things like multi-media updates on Software Choice. For instance, the fabled OS/2 version of ViaVoice might tempt me into paying for SWC. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tsikora@htfds1.ct.home.com 14-Oct-99 12:51:07 To: All 14-Oct-99 10:29:21 Subj: Re: IBM Linux! From: Ted Sikora Tadashi Ohmura wrote: > > > > > Are there any newsgroups for IBM's Linux apps yet? I installed the > > VisualAge for Java Linux edition and am surprised at how stable it is. > > I had a few problems with the JDK-1.1.6 for Linux but otherwise it's > > fine. I have ViaVoice also. > > If you had installed JDK-1.1.6 for Linux, > try IBM's JDK-1.1.8 for Linux also. > > http://www.ibm.com/java/jdk/download/index.html > Thanks. Just got it. Regards, -- Ted Sikora tsikora@tiac.net http://tsikora.tiac.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Jtl Development (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tkayser@ibm.net 14-Oct-99 21:39:02 To: All 15-Oct-99 02:48:15 Subj: Re: IBM wants us to pay for java and netscape???? From: Terry Kayser Jeffery, You make a lot of good points, all of which I can neither prove nor disprove. Which doesn't make any difference. By now most people know you don't need to be the "BEST" in business to become a success. Just take Microsoft for instants. You just have to know how to shovel the BS and who to shovel it to. If OS/2 has an almost non-existent effect on IBM's bottom line, then why try and get rid of it? Why start charging us for upgrades (I should of said fixes)? If it doesn't effect IBM's bottom line, why bother? If IBM doesn't want OS/2 anymore they should just say so and get it over with. They should just come out and say "We made a mistake, we don't know how to package a desktop operating system and we apologize." Then give everybody that bought OS/2 their money back. :> OS/2 is great. I use it all the time. The only Windows program I have is Quicken and as soon as I can find a checkbook program I like, I'll be getting rid of that. Even though I think OS/2 is great, it still doesn't change the fact that OS/2 is dying. It won't die off next month or next year. But eventually it will and everybody will have to switch to a different operating system. I really hope I'm WRONG! IBMs OS/2 server won't be far behind in dying off either. Come what may, I'll still be using OS/2 as long as I have a wordprocessor, database and spreadsheet that work with it. After all I still use my Coleco Adam from time to time. I don't know Akers or Gerstner or what they did or didn't do for IBM. But I do know that like Akers, Gerstner will move on one day. Maybe even replaced by someone like Akers or dare I say it, someone that is interested in packaging and selling a desktop operating system like OS/2. NAH! "Of course we haven't even touched upon the Linux potential which IBM is totally committed to." If IBM is as committed to Linux as they where to OS/2, Linux users "BEWARE." If I was a Linux user I would be starting a campaign to keep IBM as far away from Linux as possible. To tell you the truth I would rather have Microsoft committing to Linux than IBM. At least with Microsoft you know where you stand. Not this wishy washy stuff from IBM. Don't be surprised if one day your IBM stock says "IBM another fine company owned by Microsoft." :> After all wasn't Big Blue numero uno at one time? The unquestionable IBM? IBM could do no wrong? Well I could go on for days, but I won't. When you and everybody else replies, please be gentle. Terry Jeffery Swagger wrote: > Oh horse hockey. OS/2's effect on IBM's bottom line is almost > non-existent. S/390, AS/400, chip manufacturing, services and software > for the Microsoft platform dominant their revenue streams. S/390 and > AS/400 are both essentially IBM only markets. Either one is the > platform of choice for the explosive e-business market. And if you > doubt that then simply compare Charles Schultz (S/390) experience vs > eBay (Sun). IBM consulting, custom software and out-sourcing services > are high-profit and in high-demand. IBM is the world's low-cost, > high-quality, chip manufacturer. And guess who is the world's largest > software publisher for the Microsoft platform? Hint: It's not > Microsoft. And, like or not, that is a huge market. Of course we > haven't even touched upon the Linux potential which IBM is totally > committed to. And who owns more intellectual property patents than > anybody else? That right, IBM. > > The bad old days of John Akers are long gone. Whatever I believe to be > unfortunate and mis-guided decisions regarding OS/2, Gerstner has placed > IBM to be the leading technology company of the next century. IBM > shares are definitely buy and hold. > > ---- > Jeff > > I still miss my ex, but with this laser sight... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tkayser@ibm.net 14-Oct-99 21:50:04 To: All 15-Oct-99 02:48:15 Subj: Re: IBM wants us to pay for java and netscape???? From: Terry Kayser Jeffery, You make a lot of good points, all of which I can neither prove nor disprove. Which doesn't make any difference. By now most people know you don't need to be the "BEST" in business to become a success. Just take Microsoft for instants. You just have to know how to shovel the BS and who to shovel it to. If OS/2 has an almost non-existent effect on IBM's bottom line, then why try and get rid of it? Why start charging us for upgrades (I should of said fixes)? If it doesn't effect IBM's bottom line, why bother? If IBM doesn't want OS/2 anymore they should just say so and get it over with. They should just come out and say "We made a mistake, we don't know how to package a desktop operating system and we apologize." Then give everybody that bought OS/2 their money back. :> OS/2 is great. I use it all the time. The only Windows program I have is Quicken and as soon as I can find a checkbook program I like, I'll be getting rid of that. Even though I think OS/2 is great, it still doesn't change the fact that OS/2 is dying. It won't die off next month or next year. But eventually it will and everybody will have to switch to a different operating system. I really hope I'm WRONG! IBMs OS/2 server won't be far behind in dying off either. Come what may, I'll still be using OS/2 as long as I have a word processor, database and spreadsheet that work with it. After all I still use my Coleco Adam from time to time. I don't know Akers or Gerstner or what they did or didn't do for IBM. But I do know that like Akers, Gerstner will move on one day. Maybe even replaced by someone like Akers or dare I say it, someone that is interested in packaging and selling a desktop operating system like OS/2. NAH! "Of course we haven't even touched upon the Linux potential which IBM is totally committed to." If IBM is as committed to Linux as they where to OS/2, Linux users "BEWARE." If I was a Linux user I would be starting a campaign to keep IBM as far away from Linux as possible. To tell you the truth I would rather have Microsoft committing to Linux than IBM. At least with Microsoft you know where you stand. Not this wishy washy stuff from IBM. Don't be surprised if one day your IBM stock says "IBM another fine company owned by Microsoft." :> After all wasn't Big Blue numero uno at one time? The unquestionable IBM? IBM could do no wrong? Well I could go on for days, but I won't. When you and everybody else replies, please be gentle. Terry Jeffery Swagger wrote: > Oh horse hockey. OS/2's effect on IBM's bottom line is almost > non-existent. S/390, AS/400, chip manufacturing, services and software > for the Microsoft platform dominant their revenue streams. S/390 and > AS/400 are both essentially IBM only markets. Either one is the > platform of choice for the explosive e-business market. And if you > doubt that then simply compare Charles Schultz (S/390) experience vs > eBay (Sun). IBM consulting, custom software and out-sourcing services > are high-profit and in high-demand. IBM is the world's low-cost, > high-quality, chip manufacturer. And guess who is the world's largest > software publisher for the Microsoft platform? Hint: It's not > Microsoft. And, like or not, that is a huge market. Of course we > haven't even touched upon the Linux potential which IBM is totally > committed to. And who owns more intellectual property patents than > anybody else? That right, IBM. > > The bad old days of John Akers are long gone. Whatever I believe to be > unfortunate and mis-guided decisions regarding OS/2, Gerstner has placed > IBM to be the leading technology company of the next century. IBM > shares are definitely buy and hold. > > ---- > Jeff > > I still miss my ex, but with this laser sight... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+