Path: nntp.gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!news.alpha.net!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!davcoder From: davco...@netcom.com (David Walker CyTech CodeHouse, Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.announce,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.marketplace Subject: DoomWare Developers Network CD - 500Meg Date: 18 Nov 1994 15:51:16 GMT Organization: CyTech CodeHouse, Inc. Elmhurst, IL Lines: 110 Sender: davco...@netcom.com (David Walker CyTech CodeHouse, Inc.) Approved: js...@vt.edu Message-ID: Reply-To: davco...@netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: megavolt.cc.vt.edu NNTP-Posting-User: jsciv Status: OR Originator: js...@megavolt.cc.vt.edu ******************************************************************* * DoomWare Developers Network CD - Occurrence I * * Support for DOOM and DOOM II * * * * Special Deal get DOOM II for a discounted price!! * * See Details Below. Offer ends 11/28/94 * ******************************************************************* What's the deal?: DoomWare Developers Network CD - Occurrence I Special offer: Buy the DoomWare Developers Network CD and get DOOM II for a discounted price, with free shipping & handling (UPS Ground continental US only). Special offer ends 11/28/94. Call: CyTech CodeHouse 1-800-382-5656 Check out our ad in December's Computer Gaming World! What is it? : All the Newest, PWADS, Editors, Hacks, Sounds, Patches, FAQ's, and Reviews in the known shareware universe for DOOM and DOOM II. (as of 10/20/94) Total CD disk space used: over 500 Meg Total CD file count : over 5,000 Handy database program (CDGofer) shows you all the files and a synopsis of the description for each. Let's you extract or copy the files to your HD, print the full associated text file, and let's you effortlessly swim through half a Gig of files. Download a copy from alt.binaries.doom (See DoomWare CD...) Most pWAD's ( over 1,000 ) are available for direct play in our WADFest directory on the CD. Includes a FULL mirror of infant2, CompuServe, and AOL Doom file areas, all on 1 CD-ROM!!! Files were continuously added, right up to production, so we have the latest DOOM II WAD's, editors, and conversion utilities in their own directory. Further details if you are interested: Are there other ways to order? : Yep You can order via E-Mail to davco...@netcom.com, write, or fax. Send e-mail for more info. Gee, $29... why so much? The DoomWare Developers Network CD represents thousands of dollars invested, and simply the most complete Doom world shareware collection. We spent many, many hours searching for and grabbing the latest files on the internet and on premium on-line services. We spent many more hours sorting, cleaning, and organizing the disk. We also spent much time and money developing software to make the disk accessible, acquiring the merchant accounts, 1-800 numbers, order processing houses, production accounts, advertising materials, ad space, and permissions. How come there are other DOOM shareware CD's out that are a lot cheaper? Here is the story. A long time ago one guy used a WORM drive at work to make a CD of DOOM shareware stuff and it was pretty good at the time. Later some other guy bought a copy of it and re-released it under his name. Later yet another guy bought a copy and re-released it... and on and on. It's the same old stuff. Ours is complete from the beginning of time until present, even has the latest DOOM II stuff. Aren't you ripping of the authors? We made every effort to exclude files from authors who did not want to be included, and contacted many to make sure they were cool with the whole thing. We released our own software to the public domain, and even recompressed the files so that PKZip wouldn't be abused. Didn't you losers hog bandwidth with your massive downloading? We spread the load across all of infant2's mirrors and accessed only during off-peak. Infant2 was our last stop and by then, we had almost everything. Of course, we mercilessly hogged bandwidth on pay-per-minute services like CompuServe and AOL. Who the hell ARE you? CyTech CodeHouse is a loose aggregation of serious programmers. We do mostly custom work for government and private companies and play DOOM. We bought a couple doom shareware collection CD's and they sucked... bad. They had really old stuff, didn't make it easy to use, and shamelessly ripped off authors who stated in their doc's that they didn't want to be part of any CD collection. So we put our professional talents together to make the most complete, current, and professional Doom CD ever. The one WE would like to see. What about BBS? Is it BBS ready? Nope, we didn't have room on the CD to make a BBS ready area. Other DOOM CD's have a BBS ready area but we figured that you would rather have ALL the DOOM stuff rather than half of it and a duplicate section just to expand the market. If there is sufficient demand we might do a BBS only version. How can you sell DOOM II at a discount? Easy we lose money on the deal. It's just a convenience to you and to Id Software. How can you do FREE shipping and handling? Also easy. Shipping and handling are bogus ripoffs that companies use to sucker you in... offer a price $2.00 lower than the competition but charge $5.00 for shipping and handling. Shipping UPS ground is really cheap and handling is totally bogus. There are enough ripoffs around, we don't need to contribute. Dave Walker CyTech CodeHouse