- McJobs and Workers -

Rarely of benefit to the boss, and who else matters?

Posted by: Ted ( T R U, Madison , WI, USA ) on August 29, 1997 at 09:38:49:

In Reply to: Strikes rarely of benefit posted by Jen on August 27, 1997 at 00:06:24:

: Unfortunately, once a company has actually gone on strike, that leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of commerce, geniuses or not. The bottom line is it still hurts the company THEY work for!

GM, Ford, Chrysler--yeah, they're hurtin' bad.

:So far as the other 25%, so now the minority get to control the majority and THAT's all right with you?

It must be all right with you. Bosses are the minority, remember?

: To hell with THOSE people, wives who perhaps needed part-time income to supplement their husbands in order to make ends meet? Are you concerned about THEM feeding THEIR families?

Not if they're "supplementing". They can do that anywhere. I'm concerned with people who are the primary support and need full-time work, but can't get it because UPS thinks a billion dollars in profit isn't enough. Imagine that. Of course conservatives like yourself are going to be wringing your hands over the fate of part-time workers. Those workers are going to help usher in the bosses dream of a "flexible" workforce. That is to say, workers without pensions, benefits or even a decent wage, who are discarded when they are no longer useful to the CEO.

: Workers have their place in deciding what is useful. I believe strikes, very rarely, are to benefit anything but worker greed anymore.

Yes, workers have their "place", and they'd better stay in it. As for worker greed, I'm with you on that. It's hard to fathom how people can be so greedy as to demand a living wage, or benefits, or clean and safe conditions. Or anything else those execs shuffling papers in the office are getting.

: By the way, since you choose to make an example of remarks made by McD workers on this board, according to them their relationships with their boyfriends are not getting enough consideration, and it shouldn't be such a big deal when they come in to work hung over and "can't do their jobs properly". I'd be careful who you cite for your support.

If I were you, I'd be careful about stereotyping all workers based on a few remarks. Read all of the postings, not just the ones you find most offensive. If you can read them all and still don't think anyone has a legitimate grievance, then get yourself to a personnel manager's position and embark on a thrilling career. You'll go far.

: Most complaints on this board are levelled at individual managers, NOT McD corporate policy. There are individuals in EVERY company who make life hard, welcome to the world. If these managers were FOLLOWING corporate policy, most of these gripes wouldn't be here.

In the "world", managers don't follow the corporate policy. They follow their own policy, which is to secure their position and advance, regardless of who they have to step on. That doesn't mean it's all the fault of a few naughty individuals, and McDonald's, Inc. is still sacrosanct. McDonald's, and the rest of American Business Enterprise, is responsible for the environment it creates. But conservatives don't like to talk about responsibility for corporations--just labor.


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