- Capitalism and the Alternatives -

Re: communism does not work

Posted by: Fergus Murray ( Britain ) on January 14, 1997 at 01:03:31:

In Reply to: Re: communism does not work posted by Joe on December 19, 1996 at 23:15:14:

> > I don't agree. Communism stand's for the idea that evryone is equal and should
> > be treated that way. Well that wasn't the thing in the USSR. For a green world I think
> > we have to practice socialism. Because in mind we should be free because the mind is
> > endless. But we have to share equal> and take care of what the earth give
> > cause that isn't endless. The capitlastic way of thinking is so foolish. They think that
> > if you only work hard enough you could be rich. Well if one human beeing get rich someone
> > else is getting poorer or the nature will be overused!!

> You are just plain wrong about that last bit, and everything
> else in your post is leading up to it the entire thing is faulty,
> people don't need to be poor at all, but we are not all equal and the
> rewards for work done should be higher in the cases where the work
> is more valuble, higher quality, or necessitates skills difficult to
> learn. The reason that some people are rich and some people are
> poor in a capitalistic society is not that some people are taking
> more than their fair share it's that the buisenss practices of our
> country's rich are devoid of any sembelence of morality. We don't
> need to change the system, we need to do our best to keep
> our fellow americans moral and humane.

The trouble is, that just doesn't work. There's too many arseholes out
there, and too many of them are very good at "making" money. It's all
very well saying that everything would be fine if people were nicer,
but they're not. Our world is run largely by people who *aren't* nice,
and have very little in the way of morals, but lots in the way of money,
and it's highly unlikely that any of your efforts to just make them "moral
and humane" are going to have any noticeable effect. Unfortunately,
morality isn't a prerequisite to "good business sense" - in fact it tends
to actively conflict with it - so the people with the money (which equates
pretty closely with power) just aren't nice enough to guarantee that other
people aren't kept in poverty by their practices. And there isn't any sign
of them getting any more ethical, either.


- Fergus


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