- Capitalism and Alternatives -

Some corrections

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Pomona Valley Greens, USA ) on October 09, 1997 at 16:59:01:

In Reply to: Political systems: capitalism, socialism, anarchism posted by Clinton de Bruyn on October 09, 1997 at 09:50:34:

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: Since the name of this debating page is called "Capitalism and it's Alternatives" it seems only fitting to list the main types of ideological systems that have been floating around.

: CAPITALISM: In its purest form, Capitalism consists of no Government and no legal representation - just big companies doing what they like for profit.

I don't see this at all: big companies NEED big government 1) to protect the elaborate property and monetary laws that have been erected through the various national and international legal systems, and 2) to provide a shield for the financial risks these same big companies undergo. America, for instance, has a long tradition of bailing out big companies if they go bankrupt through financial miscalculation, simply because the political costs of letting these same companies go bankrupt is too big.

: The extreme of Capitalism is Fascism, the best example of which was Adolf Hitler's Germany.

More evidence for strong ties between the pro-capitalists and big daddy government.

: SOCIALISM: Created by Karl Marx and Fredrich Engels,

Marx and Engels, two authors you should read someday , discuss at length the idea that socialism is something they're building on, that it's an idea that really stretches all the way back to Sir Thomas More's UTOPIA. Communism, they also recount, is something that was observed in so-called "primitive" societies.

:everything would be owned and controlled by the State, which would usually be elected.

Marx and Engels were lifelong opponents of the State, any and all States, believing that the State would wither away once its bourgeois apologists were thrown out of power.

: ANARCHISM: "Every man should be his own home, his own lawmaker and his own church" is a quote which adequately describes Anarchism. In a true Anarchist country, there would be no Government and no private enterprise; rather, there would be small communities operating together in mutual cooperation. Because there is no form of outside control from business or from Government (because they don't exist), cooperation is essential for well-being.

This is fine.

: The person to first seriously suggest Anarchism would be the 19th century economist, Preudhom.

Please go back and read William Godwin's (1794) ENQUIRY INTO POLITICAL JUSTICE, written before Proudhon's birthdate.

: SYNDICALISM: An interesting form of Government suggested by Socialist splinter groups in the 1800's. Under Syndicalism, there would be no Government; but, there would be an important law

Uh, no government, but there would be law? Come again?




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