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Competition still taking credit for things people would do anyway

Posted by: Samuel Day Fassbinder ( Pomona Valley Greens, USA ) on August 25, 1997 at 23:40:05:

In Reply to: I expect you'll argue on the details posted by Mike Bednarz on August 25, 1997 at 19:17:39:

: Nothing prohibits people from inventing in socialism, theres just no reason for them to.

Except maybe to make life better for people. Please don't spend endless bandwith trying to persuade me that technology isn't invented to make life better but "merely" to compete in a capitalist arena. I'll let someone else respond to the next ideological boast; I'm unconvinced that competition is the "cause" of all major inventions, simply because there's plenty of other reasons to invent things. Look at the zillions of Web pages that have been put up (McSpotlight, for instance) without the least thought of profit.

It's meaningless to speculate what might be, if human industrial activity over the last two centuries had not been immersed in capitalism. It's meaningless for the same reason it would be meaningless to speculate what would have happened if the human race had arisen on Mars instead of Earth, or with five genders instead of two. The fact is, it was, and it's impossible to detach those inventions, as they were invented then, from capitalist culture, simply because economic culture immerses all culture as a general condition of existence. This doesn't mean that we have to uphold capitalism as the true and sole inventor of industrial society, and claim that nothing else would produce invention. And it certainly doesn't uphold the profit motive as the only motive capable of moving people to invent things.

Have fun, and I hope someone is paying you well to post to this Forum, maybe you'll produce good arguments with decent spelling as a result.


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