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: : I would have to agree, the Socialist in-fighting is absurd. What is the most important word in the: What do you call two trots in the same room?
: A Schism.
: PS. Lenin and Trotsky were both Vanguardists- their version of the proletarian revolution was that of a cou d'etat perpetrated by the workers party, and followed by their unique version of the dictatorship of the proletariate- whereby they set upo a one party dictatorship to rule in the name of the proles. (This is not what the term means- it does in fact refer to the idea that the proles being a democratic majority enforce their views on the other classes, and prevent a counter revolution in that manner. Socialism is democratic or nothing worth.)
: The proletarian revolution, when it comes, must come from below, and because everyone wants it. Its a waste of time to engage in the activities of the trots, who when examining every defeat of the working class blame the leadership for giving in. Reject leaders, reformism, even the mendacious (And damaging by its mendacity for the rest of the socialist movement)reformism of the trots (Persuade the people to want X, and then when caputalism fails to deliver, they'll all become good socialists- yeah, right) cannot work, and will not bring us to revolution. A revolution cannot be led, it must be wanted, and if the peopel want it they will need no leaders.. Marxist Anarchism forever.
: PPS. Red Deathy loves left wing in fighting, its a way of whiling away the hours until the revolution comes.....
You're living in a dream world. Socialism isn't the only thing out there and socialists aren't the only people trying to direct the working class. Ever heard of fascism? It's a real threat and it's on the rise. People need direction in order to enact real change during the historic hot-spots. Classic example: WWII Germany, a time for real change with all the massive unemployment and worker unrest. Who takes control? Hitler, a fascist, and the rest you know. The energy of the working class is unstoppable once moving but maleable until it is directed.
