- Capitalism and Alternatives -

We don't live in Utopia

Posted by: Bill ( none, USA ) on May 11, 1997 at 18:42:52:

In Reply to: Re: Capitalism is opportunity, freedom and equality. In short, the Answer posted by Ted on May 10, 1997 at 09:52:41:


: > With capitalism, one could rise to the top. With communism, one will stay
: > with the rest, in the gutter!

: Millions of people are in the gutters and on the streets of America and
: other capitalist countries. The number of disposable humans increases
: daily, as the capitalist bosses find ways to make more profits with
: fewer wage-slaves.

How can you compare the fallout from a government beuracracy and poor social structures to that of capitalism? Capitalism is Freedom. It is the drive for personal and econmic freedom.

: > Wouldn't you like to be free to earn success, to have the chance to rise,
: > to get back what you put in? Of course you would.

: Most workers put in far more than they will ever get back. That is the
: definition of capitalism.

Are you crazy? Think about the founders of that business that you so condemn.

: > You did not spend all those years at school studying to be a genius so you can
: > earn the same amount of money as some idiot who now earns the same amount for
: > doing less because the socialist government says that everyone should be
: > equal.

: There are many well-educated people among the unemployed. Education and
: aptitude are no guarantees of success in capitalist society. In order
: to "achieve", a person needs to be cunning and heartless. A system that
: gives the greatest rewards to those with the least compassion is a
: disgusting system.

Good Point. We don't live in Utopia. As far as education, only the truely ignorant would dismiss the power of knowledge.


: > In a capitalist society, you have the opprotunity to learn whatever you want
: > and become whatever you want. You have the freedom to choose to rise higher
: > then other people for your own personal reasons. And everyone has these
: > rights. In that sense, we are all equal.

: The only right a worker has under capitalism is the right to choose
: a master. Once under the control of a boss, he or she no longer has
: any rights except those granted by the "superior". Workers are told
: when to show up, when to go home, and what to do in between. They are
: monitored, evaluated and disciplined. They are paid a small fraction
: of the value they produce for the boss. If they refuse the master's
: orders, they can be "fired" and the cycle begins again.

I think you should change jobs and watch Milton Freidman's series on Freedom of Choice. This can be found at your state library.

: Under this kind of near-total submission to authority, all talk of
: rights and freedoms is a cruel joke.

Alright, your right I think I will just go kill myself.



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