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Re: Is communism dead?

Posted by: Red Deathy ( UK ) on May 06, 1997 at 17:43:35:

In Reply to: Is communism dead? posted by Alferdo on April 28, 1997 at 10:50:16:

> Communism is dead for all practical reasons was the statement said by my
> professor in Universiy. So i was thinking about it for some time and said
> real real communism has never been born yet. All the previous experiment of
> the USSR, China, and Cuba is not what marx meant by communism.

In fact they were a long way from the idea of Marxist notions of communism- teh revolutions were more accurately cuop d'etat's by the relevent bolshvik leninists or the Moaists- non were genuine proletarian revolutions- ever. Communism must be a world wide phenomenon opr it will be nothing- capitalism is a world wide system, and so must communism/socialism.

Marx said that a proletariat revolution will occur ( class struggle) then there will be a dictatorship of the proletariat. After that all The Leninists and the Trots tend to think of DIctatorship of the proletariate as being the dictatoprhip by the party of the proles- as we had in Russia- they will rule in the name and interests of the proles. The real dictatorship of the proles will be when the achieve class consciousness, and actively excercise their democratic majoritive status.

> work classes will unit and no more classes. All the previously stated nations > have all only reached the dictatorship of the proletariat phase.

They haven't, they only achieved the dictatorship bit....

> The fact that communist is dead now and that industialization is taking
> place in all developing countries will at last create a large working class
> all over the world.

Yup

> Making the rich richer and making the poor and low middle classer poor
> and numerous.

Will probably destroy much of the petit bourgeois middle class- we can already see an ostensible proletarianisasion of the people on Britain- causualisation of labour even in white collar industry, etc....

> Communism is the specter that will haunt the world in the next 50-100 years.

True- however, the radical intelectuals seem to have lost their way, and in the despair of the failure of '68, and of the failure of socialism in general, seem to have lost themselves into a neo-hegelian idealist miasma- perhaps its a good thing- the intelectuals only ever really seemed to want to run the world themselves (Hence many intelectual left were leninists- they were to be the intelectual vanguard and dictatoship). As long as there are human begins there is a chance for communism.




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