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Not kidding

Posted by: Stuart Gort ( USA ) on January 09, 1998 at 02:00:09:

In Reply to: Re: Oh Brother! Stuart, you must be kidding! posted by Walter Prytulak on January 06, 1998 at 17:09:40:

:: You must be kidding! I knew that God would be invoked sooner or later to justify the human perversion of his laws. Speaking for God,

Come now Walter. God speaks for Himself in the Bible. Even if you
don't believe in the God of the Bible, can the concept of any god be
viable if men are speaking for him? That's not much of a god at all.
I might even beat him arm-wrestling. The God of the Bible, however,
spoke and created everything out of nothing. If He speaks and the universe appears, I wouldn't presume to speak for Him.

"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge" Prov. 1:7.

:: when he created the world there were no multinational corporations bent on throwing the monkey wrench into his works.

The implication here is that evil didn't rear it's head until the
corporation was envisioned. That's nonsense. A corporation is a
legal machination of paperwork and law. They do nothing without the
men who operate them. I'll give you one more guess as to who or what
is evil in this world and when it commenced. I'll even give you a
hint. They are not inanimate entities of modern times.

"All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." Rom. 3:23.

:: Of course, in his times,

As if God died or went away somehow.

"to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, before all time and now and forever,
Amen." Jude 1:25.

:: whoever did not go fishing or did not pluck the fruit from a tree, did not eat. The same law applies now as then: whoever does not fetch food from the grocery store, and carry it home, then prepare it, cook it, and chew it, he also cannot eat, and shall not eat. If he does not eat then he dies. In this case God does not withhold food, but a person intent on not eating is either sick, or starves himself to death in a suicidal attempt. Eating is hard work and no one refusing to perform such work of eating, should be spoon-fed or tube-fed by force. Not much has changed.

How does one answer this? You are actually saying that the act of
shopping, cooking, and chewing is what God refers to in the Old
Testament law as work? With a straight face? In my entire life I
have never seen terms redefined so blatantly.

"Cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face shall you eat bread till you return to the ground." Gen. 3:17-19

: The simple refutation of the idea that God himself might be withholding food is the fact that he placed food within the human reach and NOT somewhere high up on a mountain, while asking all his creatures to tread on steps of a treadmill (probably manufacturing some plastic gargoyles), on the way to it, to become deserving.

See the above paragraph or just look around. If you notice an apple
tree, have an apple. Oops, I'm sorry, it's not Fall anymore. Unless
you did some work to can those apples, the only food for you will be
the acorns you steal from a squirrel (who has sense enough to know
what is required for his sustinence).

"He who tills his land will have plenty of bread. But he who pursues
vain things lacks sense." Prov.12:11.

This whole concept of yours seems to be predicated on the fact that there is enough food growing naturally out of the ground to sustain
a planet of 5 billion people. If I'm wrong about that, then you are
advocating a food pool which people are entitled dip into regardless
of their input. That is incremental communism which I see no reason
to re-establish after it's first miserable, godless, and failed
attempt at world domination.

I do see many reasons to re-establish the concept of personal reponsiblity as ordained by God to be proper for our current world.
Living up to the responsiblities God places before us is healthy for the mind, spirit, and body in a temporal sense. But we are ever so
much more than temporal beings. The gravity of eternity when compared
to the temporal is infinite. We should address the issue of our souls
before we set out to perfect the temporal.

Stuart Gort


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