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     1        at all.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  The question only arose because Miss Brophy
     4        has her own opinion about salt.  But the question only
     5        arose because she purported to quote a government
     6        publication saying 1,600 was the maximum.  That is what
     7        I queried.  Whatever I make of her evidence generally about
     8        salt, I think she may well have misunderstood what the
     9        1,600 was.
    10
    11   MS. STEEL:   That may be the way that, within the health
    12        profession, those recommendations are interpreted.  That
    13        that is the maximum.
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Well, maybe it is.  It is not what it says,
    16        that is all.
    17
    18   MS. STEEL:   I mean, I think that it is ambiguous as to what it
    19        says.
    20
    21   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Thank you for mentioning it.  I have made a
    22        note, page 153, 25, 3, 1.
    23
    24   MS. STEEL:   In our view, it is clear that you certainly do not
    25        need to go over that amount and that McDonald's meals, the
    26        example she gave of a cheese sandwich in addition and not
    27        forgetting that there is some amount of sodium in most
    28        foods, you are going to be well over that amount.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
    31
    32   MS. STEEL:   The other thing I just wanted to briefly mention is
    33        that in terms of what standard should be adopted when
    34        deciding whether or not something comes in to a -- what
    35        could be considered healthy or, you know, what is best for
    36        health, just that it is our view that the government
    37        recommendations are conservative and that we are not
    38        concerned in this court with what is attainable under the
    39        present system of, you know, all the influences of
    40        advertising and the promotion of junk food, and so on, but
    41        we are concerned with what is the best diet, optimum diet,
    42        for people to have healthy lifestyles and a much reduced
    43        risk of these degenerative diseases.
    44
    45        Just an additional point to that, people might well find
    46        recommendations more attainable if they actually knew what
    47        the consequences were of eating certain types of diet and
    48        what the true best type of diet was to aim for, and the
    49        result that could be attained with that type of diet.  It
    50        may be because of all the contrary messages going out from
    51        the food industry that we say these things are not bad for
    52        you, and so on, it does not make any difference to your
    53        health, that people would just sort of think, well, there
    54        is not much point, and that is why it makes it so difficult
    55        to encourage people to change their diets.
    56
    57        We are moving on to advertising.  In this section I may as
    58        well deal with -- well, I will deal with some of the points
    59        relating to McDonald's deceptive advertising in terms of
    60        promoting their food as nutritious, when the reality is the

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