Day 293 - 04 Nov 96 - Page 02

     
     1                                         Monday, 4th November 1996
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     3   MR. MORRIS:   I am going to start by reading.  I think there are
     4        just two admissions.
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     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Before you do that, Mr. Morris, I am going
     7        to say something about the scheduling.  What I propose to
     8        do is say what I have to say and then what I hope is going
     9        to happen, unless anyone has any objection, is that it can
    10        be transcribed as a separate ruling.  Hopefully, I may be
    11        able to check it during the midday adjournment, so everyone
    12        can go away with copies this evening.  If they want them,
    13        that is.
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    15             (Ruling followed - see separate transcript)
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Mr. Morris, I have got the notes which you
    18        gave me on Friday afternoon, helpfully, as I have already
    19        said.  Are you proposing to carry on through those?
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    MR. MORRIS:   Can I just say one point about the schedule?
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
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    25   MR. MORRIS:   As I understood it, on our legal submissions,
    26        which we did not want to take up time on during these -
    27        unless it was directly relevant to some of the evidence,
    28        our two days for reply on law was part of that three weeks
    29        where there would be legal submissions, and it was not just
    30        on points that Mr. Rampton did not bring up in his written
    31        submissions but it was also on points that he did bring up,
    32        if we have submissions.  We are trying to prepare, if
    33        possible, written submissions on the law, obviously with
    34        advice on that.
    35
    36        So all I am saying is, when you said Defendants to reply on
    37        law on matters that were not brought up by Mr. Rampton or
    38        something -----
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is your strict entitlement, I am not
         going to be hard and fast about that if there is something
    42        which you can helpfully say to me.  If you can bring in any
    43        points of law as you go along through your submissions on
    44        topics where it arises, do so.  If you feel unable to do
    45        that, and have the opportunity to get your legal
    46        submissions written down, do that.  It would help if you
    47        can obtain it and then hand it into me in written form, and
    48        we will see where we go to then.
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    50   MR. MORRIS:   There is just one other point, which was that in 
    51        the ruling you just made there was a reference to Helen 
    52        having help with the references for the animal section. 
    53        She did not have any help doing that.
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    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   It is my misunderstanding of something she
    56        said.  I thought she said she had people reading the
    57        transcripts; I therefore assumed she had got the references
    58        from them and she was not sure what they were to.
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    60   MS. STEEL:   That was for other subjects like nutrition, not