Day 285 - 23 Oct 96 - Page 02

     
     1                                      Wednesday, 23rd October 1996
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     3   MR. MORRIS:   This might be a little bit chaotic today because
     4        I am not fully prepared.  The references that you
     5        indicated yesterday, Jim Nations' article as printed in
     6        the magazine 'Environment' --
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     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let me just find my note.
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    10   MR. MORRIS:   There is obviously quite a lot of good references
    11        in that article in general.  In fact, the whole of it.
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes, but do you have the reference in the
    14        pages, that is the thing?
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    16   MR. MORRIS:   Yes, it is on page 18.
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    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Which volume is it?
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    20   MR. MORRIS:   I am sorry, it should be in our Civil
         Evidence Act notice statements.
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    23   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Right.  But I mean --
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    25   MR. MORRIS:   Sorry, did you want to know where that was?
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    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, I want you to have some sympathy with
    28        my position, which is this basically, that of course if
    29        you say it is in Mr. Nations' Civil Evidence Act notice
    30        statement, I can get down an index, I can look in the
    31        index or I can take down the pale blue volumes one by one
    32        until I find the one that Mr. Nations is in.  But it adds
    33        an awful lot of time to the time I have got to take.
    34        Whereas if you just say pale blue this, Mr. Nations'
    35        Civil Evidence Act statement....  Do not bother with it
    36        now.
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    38   MR. RAMPTON:   I will do it so far as I can.
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   If Mr. Rampton or anyone can help....
         I can do it myself.  It just adds to the time I have to
    42        take and it saves me the time if you can find it.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:   It is pale blue 1C.
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    48   MR. RAMPTON:   Section L, number 2.  I do not know whether that
    49        is an article.  It is certainly the original Civil
    50        Evidence Act statement by Dr. Nations.
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.  Thank you very much.  You have got 
    53        some page numbers in the article there?
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    55   MR. MORRIS:   Can I just say that, you know, I do have every
    56        sympathy with, you know, the amount of documentation that
    57        we all have to look through and I wish I had all the
    58        references.  To be honest, it is a miracle I am standing
    59        here coming up with any kind of submission because we are
    60        completely exhausted, our papers are not in the best of