Day 129 - 25 May 95 - Page 04


     
     1        The technical side of it, as I say, I would not have got
     2        involved in; that would have been done by Quality Assurance
     3        and Keith Kenny.
     4
     5   Q.   You mean the meat side of things?
     6        A.  Yes.
     7
     8   Q.   Did you investigate the cooking side of things?
     9        A.  We spoke to the crew members and the Managers there.
    10        As I said, as far as we could ascertain, they were
    11        following the procedures we had laid down at the time.
    12
    13   Q.   Was the grill in Preston, was that a clamshell one or one
    14        of the old style -- I cannot remember what they are called?
    15        A.  Flat grill, it was a flat grill at Preston.
    16
    17   Q.   Have you read the report of the Environmental Health, the
    18        Public Health Laboratory Service Report?
    19        A.  I seem to remember reading it when it came out, but
    20        I have not read it recently.
    21
    22   Q.   What do you remember the Public Health Laboratory Service
    23        saying about what they considered the cause was of the
    24        incident?
    25        A.  I honestly -- I cannot remember.
    26
    27   Q.   You cannot remember?
    28        A.  I cannot remember.
    29
    30   Q.   Did you communicate their findings to other stores?
    31        A.  It would not have been my role at the time.  As
    32        I explained to you, I was not involved in what came after
    33        the actual incident at Preston.  My role at the time was to
    34        liaise and cooperate with the Environmental Health Officers
    35        and with the Operations people.  I was not involved when
    36        the report came out, although I did read if for interest,
    37        because, as I explained to you, my role in food safety has
    38        varied quite a lot throughout my time in hygiene and
    39        safety.  Shortly after Preston, I was instructed that it
    40        was to be purely health and safety for a while as David
    41        Wignall got more involved.
    42
    43   Q.   Your involvement with the Environmental Health Officers,
    44        what did that involve?
    45        A.  It involved going up to the restaurant, meeting with
    46        the Operations people, going along to the Environmental
    47        Health Offices, meeting with them, going back to the
    48        restaurant, touring with them, meeting with senior
    49        Operations management, and that is all I recollect at the
    50        time. 
    51 
    52   Q.   The Chief Medical Officer of the Department of Health 
    53        issued advice to companies cooking and selling hamburgers,
    54        beef burgers, do you remember that?
    55        A.  I seem to remember he sent out advice to everybody --
    56        companies and in respect to the home as well.
    57
    58   Q.   That was as a result of the Preston incident?
    59        A.  It was certainly just after that.
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