Day 125 - 12 May 95 - Page 02
1 Friday, 12th May, 1995.
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3 MR. ROBERT BEAVERS, recalled
4 Cross-Examined by the Defendants, continued.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am sorry to hear of your family's
7 bereavement, Mr. Morris.
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9 MR. MORRIS: Thank for cancelling yesterday.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL (To the witness): I am sorry if you have been
12 inconvenienced, but one has to have priorities,
13 Mr. Beavers.
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15 MR. MORRIS: We are certain we will finish today.
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Good, yes. I think you can do, obviously,
18 having got this far, as we obviously must so that
19 Mr. Beavers can go home.
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21 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Could I ask you a couple of
22 questions -- the first question is, do you know Steve
23 Copeland?
24 A. Yes, I do.
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26 Q. Do you know what his present position is?
27 A. As I understand it, he still works with our Labour
28 Relations Department. He has had international
29 responsibility for Labour Relations Department for a number
30 of years.
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32 Q. Where is he now based?
33 A. In the USA.
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35 MR. MORRIS: Is it appropriate to ask the witness about their
36 intention to call Mr. Copeland or not?
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38 MR. RAMPTON: No, my Lord. That is a matter for me and my
39 solicitors obviously in discussion with the clients, but
40 Mr. Beavers is not in a position to answer questions about
41 that.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What Mr. Rampton has said is quite right.
44 But, on the other hand, there is no harm in you making some
45 enquiry if the purpose, for instance, is the very
46 reasonable one of knowing whether you need to ask
47 Mr. Beavers something because Mr. Copeland may not come
48 into the witness box. Is that your purpose, really?
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50 MR. MORRIS: Not exactly, no.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not ask it just for comment sake because
53 you can always make any comment on the calling or not
54 calling of witnesses when we know who has been called at
55 the end of the day. What one makes of it, one would have
56 to see.
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58 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Is he still involved in the
59 International Department?
60 A. I am not certain what his current responsibilities