Day 125 - 12 May 95 - Page 02

     
     1                                           Friday, 12th May, 1995.
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     3                     MR. ROBERT BEAVERS, recalled
     4                  Cross-Examined by the Defendants, continued.
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     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sorry to hear of your family's
     7        bereavement, Mr. Morris.
     8
     9   MR. MORRIS:  Thank for cancelling yesterday.
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL (To the witness):  I am sorry if you have been
    12        inconvenienced, but one has to have priorities,
    13        Mr. Beavers.
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  We are certain we will finish today.
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Good, yes.  I think you can do, obviously,
    18        having got this far, as we obviously must so that
    19        Mr. Beavers can go home.
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  Could I ask you a couple of
    22        questions -- the first question is, do you know Steve
    23        Copeland?
    24        A.  Yes, I do.
    25
    26   Q.   Do you know what his present position is?
    27        A.  As I understand it, he still works with our Labour
    28        Relations Department.  He has had international
    29        responsibility for Labour Relations Department for a number
    30        of years.
    31
    32   Q.   Where is he now based?
    33        A.  In the USA.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  Is it appropriate to ask the witness about their
    36        intention to call Mr. Copeland or not?
    37
    38   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  That is a matter for me and my
    39        solicitors obviously in discussion with the clients, but
    40        Mr. Beavers is not in a position to answer questions about
         that.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What Mr. Rampton has said is quite right.
    44        But, on the other hand, there is no harm in you making some
    45        enquiry if the purpose, for instance, is the very
    46        reasonable one of knowing whether you need to ask
    47        Mr. Beavers something because Mr. Copeland may not come
    48        into the witness box.  Is that your purpose, really?
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  Not exactly, no. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not ask it just for comment sake because 
    53        you can always make any comment on the calling or not
    54        calling of witnesses when we know who has been called at
    55        the end of the day.  What one makes of it, one would have
    56        to see.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  Is he still involved in the
    59        International Department?
    60        A.  I am not certain what his current responsibilities