Day 063 - 07 Dec 94 - Page 07

     
     1        sees it first and then an issue of disclosability, however
     2        you describe it, can be decided if one arises.  The first
     3        step is to try to find it, if you can, Mr. Van Erp, and put
     4        it in the hands of Barlows.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  It does seem to imply in that actual document that
     7        the review under the date was "by September 1990", so it is
     8        possible that that document is linked to a more extensive
     9        document.  The actual report had been completed, may be
    10        connected to a broader review.  So, presumably, if either
    11        of those can be found it might be helpful.
    12        A.  I would suggest that -- what I said earlier -----
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Look for it, Mr. Van Erp, will you?
    15        A.  Yes, I will.
    16
    17   MS. STEEL:   Is it right that in Holland there is a recycling
    18        scheme that involves all the stores?
    19        A.  Yes.
    20
    Q.   How much of the waste is recycled -- is that all of the
    22        waste?
    23        A.  To be more exact, practically all the kitchen waste is
    24        separated out in the various fractions and recycled.
    25
    26   Q.   You mean?
    27        A.  The waste that actually falls ---
    28
    29   Q.   Behind the counter?
    30        A.  -- behind the counter.  The over the counter waste is
    31        compacted, palletised, and so pallets are made which are
    32        incinerated with energy -----
    33
    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Keep your voice up, please, Mr. Van Erp?
    35        A.  Sorry, so the over the counter waste which is a large
    36        part of packaging, food waste, contaminated, mixed waste is
    37        compacted, incinerated with energy recovery, so pallets,
    38        energy pallets, are made of it.
    39
    40   Q.   So it is all mixed in together, all the polystyrene and the
         paper, it is just burnt together?
    42        A.  Yes.
    43
    44   Q.   What about the stuff behind the counter, what happens to
    45        that?
    46        A.  Behind the counter is, you have a fraction of
    47        corrugated, is separated out and recycled, polyethylene,
    48        those are corrugated and polyethylene are generally
    49        transportation packaging, they are both separated out in
    50        various fractions and they are brought to a recyclate. 
    51        There is a shortening, use a shortening, which is 
    52        recycled.  Food waste is being processed to, I think, 
    53        animal food.  I think those are the main, you have got 90
    54        per cent of what the waste behind the counter is.
    55
    56   Q.   So it all gets recycled then?
    57        A.  That all gets recycled, yes.
    58
    59   Q.   Are there laws about that in Holland?
    60        A.  No.