Day 032 - 06 Oct 94 - Page 02
1 Thursday, 6th October, 1994.
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3 MR. MORRIS: We will call Tim Lobstein, please.
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5 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, before Dr. Lobstein is sworn, it may be
6 convenient if I mention the fact that -- I may be the only
7 unfortunate one in court -- one of his papers, The Diets
8 of British Schoolchildren which was published by, I
9 suppose, the government in 1989 had, according to the
10 index, some tables with it, though not attached to my copy
11 of the reports.
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13 MR. MORRIS: I have the original here. It is quite a large
14 book. I photocopied all the text and the tables are at
15 the back of the text. The tables are about 80 pages in
16 the tables.
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18 MR. RAMPTON: Having read the text and Dr. Lobstein's
19 statement, it seemed to me that probably what one needs is
20 the table rather than the text.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Could you show me what are the tables, what
23 they look like?
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25 MR. MORRIS: There are pages and pages of tables, about a
26 hundred pages of them, graphs and -----
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28 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I do complain once again. It simply
29 will not do, on a day when a witness is called, due to be
30 cross-examined by me, perhaps, later today or tomorrow, to
31 serve on us by way of discovery a deficient document. If
32 I am right that it is the tables that matter, it means
33 very likely that Dr. Lobstein may have to go away while I
34 digest the tables. I do ask why that document was not
35 served in its entirety.
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How many copies do you have of it?
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39 MR. MORRIS: We have one copy. My understanding, since this
40 case started, is if there is a book then it is not
41 automatically copied in full, partly because we are not
42 able to do that.
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44 MR. RAMPTON: I did not ask for it to be copied, I asked for it
45 to be served.
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47 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let Mr. Morris finish.
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49 MR. MORRIS: I only have one copy. My understanding of the
50 general practice, certainly in this case, is to bring the
51 complete item to court and to serve what we consider to be
52 the most important sections. What I did was photocopy the
53 entire text, which is the first 38 pages, which summarises
54 the conclusions and methodology, and whatever. The rest
55 is to be made available. I do not know which charts
56 Mr. Lobstein will refer to, but certainly, if he does
57 refer to a particular chart, we can copy it and I can show
58 it to Mr. Rampton and he can -----
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think you are strictly right in
