[ 11-Sep-01 14:03 ] vermifax@sdf has joined ny. [vermifax] morning [ 11-Sep-01 14:03 ] vermifax@sdf has left ny. [dt] hi, seen the news` [dt] who [ 11-Sep-01 14:16 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 14:16 ] hackit@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 14:18 ] bronwen@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] dude [bronwen] it's pretty unbeleveable [ 11-Sep-01 14:19 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [phm] !!! [phm] Terrorism Alert [bronwen] i can't believe it [bronwen] it's like a movie or something only worse [bronwen] there would only be 1 plane in a movie [phm] yesh! [phm] scary [bronwen] i'm never catching a plane again [phm] also other stuff is going on [phm] not just planes i think [bronwen] in case someone decided to fly it somewhere silly [bronwen] i heard a plane hit the pentagon [phm] statisticaly dafer than cars though [bronwen] but the secondary explosion wasn't an extra bomb or anything [phm] *safer [bronwen] *nod* [phm] wow this is serious [bronwen] it's like midnight here and i was asleep but mick rang up and told us to turn on the tv [bronwen] no shit it's serious [bronwen] the terrorists managed to miss our prime minister who was in NY today, doh! [phm] hah [bronwen] have you seen any footage yet, pete? [phm] did they let the people from the boat in yet?? [phm] no [bronwen] no they just sent another lot away too [bronwen] back to indonesia [phm] epp crazy world [bronwen] where the indoniesians said bog off again [bronwen] so another load to PNG [bronwen] the world trade centre is seriously broken [phm] haha [bronwen] i saw half of it falling down [phm] geez [dt] here is the deal so rfar [bronwen] it is totally unbelieveable that it's happening in real life [dt] three planes [dt] one into each tower of the world trade center, the other into the pentagon [dt] they were commercial passenger planes, with passengers aboard. [bronwen] all commercial, all with passengers [bronwen] you beat me to it [bronwen] the horror is beyond words [phm] geeez [bronwen] all international flights going to the US have been diverted to canada [bronwen] I don't see how that will help tho [dt] fuck fuck fuck.. [phm] bit late.,... [dt] i jsut hope its americants who are behinfdd it... [phm] yeah [bronwen] the palestinians are claiming it [phm] really!? [phm] god [bronwen] bin watsit [bronwen] bin laden's lot [bronwen] no idea how true that is though [bronwen] they haven't any proof so far since it all blew up [dt] everyone is gonna be claiming it [dt] thats standard.. [dt] they are also talking about the talibans. but either way, there is noting for sute re for a good while yet [bronwen] the second tower has just gone down [bronwen] gib gib gib gib [phm] OMG i just saw it on tv [bronwen] i dont know if we are getting the news delayed or not [bronwen] all the ambulance people probably just got squashed [bronwen] ack [bronwen] i don't know if I'm going to be able to go to work tomorrow [dt] where u live bronwen? [ 11-Sep-01 14:32 ] weevil@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] austraslia [bronwen] but our pm was in ny today [weevil] bloddy hell! [weevil] both towers have now collapsed [phm] !?!?! [bronwen] the world trade centre is 2 towers 110 floors tall [weevil] and another hijaked plane is on the way to washington [bronwen] well it used to be' [bronwen] is that 4th plane confirmed? [weevil] apparantly [bronwen] sheesh [dt] quit [weevil] there was a car bomb too [ 11-Sep-01 14:34 ] dt@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 14:34 ] jyunyakb@sdf has joined ny. [jyunyakb] i am looking the live video now [jyunyakb] from ny [jyunyakb] i am japanese [bronwen] what do you think? [jyunyakb] realy shock [weevil] its amazing they fell straight down. [weevil] were they designed like that, or do you think something exploded on the bottom floors? [bronwen] collapsed in on themselves mostly [bronwen] the planes hit in the middle [bronwen] so maybe that just weakened the middle and it went soggy [weevil] if it was weak in the middle, it would topple over - like a tree [weevil] besides, the planes hit nearer the top [bronwen] trees aren't square and made of concrete and steel [bronwen] but still, i'm surprised they fell like they did [weevil] yes, but they still obey the principles of gravity. [weevil] perhaps it was designed in [bronwen] you never know [bronwen] a lot of thought had to go into making something that tall [weevil] its suprising they didn't try for the white house [bronwen] where is that? [bronwen] is it near the pentagon? [bronwen] maybe thats where the 4th plane is going [weevil] i'm not sure. [weevil] I'm from the UK [bronwen] i'm in australia so i have no idea either [weevil] they haven't mentioned much about that 4th plane. [bronwen] don't know if it's a rumour or what [weevil] have you seen the footage of the aeroplane crashing into the nd tower? [phm] was there a bomb on the plane ?? [weevil] no, but it would've been fuel-heavy [bronwen] yeah [bronwen] no bomb [bronwen] just people and plane fuel [weevil] they're evacuating places in the UK now. [phm] wow [phm] this is unreal [bronwen] the whole thing is starting to make me ill [bronwen] just thinking about all the people who got hurt or killed [weevil] just think of the immense amounts of money this is going to lose - all trade in US and some other countries closed. [ 11-Sep-01 14:44 ] stdio@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] a plane has crashed just north of pittsburg airport [phm] yeah it certainly planed to make a mess of everything [bronwen] wonder if that was the 4th one [weevil] Thank God the IRA never thought of anything like that. [phm] yeah [bronwen] thank god we don't have terrorists in australia [bronwen] only sad angry boatppl [weevil] well, they didn't have very much in america until now. [bronwen] guess not, just the occasional bomber [stdio] help [weevil] it's really goging to make them think about how powerful their military is after all - a plane crashing into the pentagon! [phm] this isnt even the worst case senario [weevil] ? [phm] no chemical weapons [weevil] well, I suppose it's much easier to hijack a plane than smuggle biological weapons. [phm] i dont think so [ 11-Sep-01 14:49 ] dune@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] i think it probably is [dune] i guess i don't have to say aniything [ 11-Sep-01 14:50 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [hackit] yeah..its true [weevil] how many passengers were on the plane? [stdio] no one know [hackit] a hundred i guess. [weevil] planes [dune] i got no snumbers [weevil] the bbc is estimating the number of dead at 6 until they get better information! [hackit] go to go.. [hackit] i need to watch it.. [ 11-Sep-01 14:52 ] hackit@sdf has left ny. [jyunyakb] [C:who [phm] i thought they said only 6 had been confirmed as dead [jyunyakb] i think it is over 1000 [weevil] they said 6 dead with 1000s injured [weevil] but they admit that it's likely to be a lot more. [weevil] what does the state department do? [weevil] london stock exchange evacuated... [ 11-Sep-01 14:55 ] sallyh@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] its suprising the towers took such a long time to collapse. [phm] i think there were explosives on board [weevil] i think its more likely that there were explosives at the base of the buildings. [weevil] I can't see how an explosion at te top would make the towers collapse straight downwards. [sallyh] that is truly scary [weevil] an explosion at the top would more likely make the buildings topple over. [weevil] they've got fighter planes over washington now. Took them a while. [sallyh] ow [sallyh] wow [ 11-Sep-01 15:04 ] bronwen@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] my computer broke :( [weevil] these terrorists obviously know how to make a big impression. [bronwen] whats the latest news? [bronwen] I heard the most horrible thing [weevil] fighter planes deployed over washington. [weevil] ? [dune] quit [ 11-Sep-01 15:05 ] dune@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] people were aparantely jumping out of the building, on fire [bronwen] thats on about the 80-90th floor [weevil] yes, that what people being interiewed were saying. [bronwen] that was from an eyewitness report [weevil] what time is it where you are in australia? [bronwen] half midnight [bronwen] my friend rang me and woke me up so i could see the news [weevil] most ppl wont have heard the news then. [bronwen] not here they won't have [weevil] part of the pentagon has collapssed [bronwen] i was going to ring my parents but they probably won't care [bronwen] shit [bronwen] um i mean sh*t [sallyh] i don't see how anyone can not care [weevil] 747 crashed near pittsburg [sallyh] this is serious shit [weevil] even if you don't really care about america, it's the implications that are scary. [bronwen] i heard about that pittsburg one earlier - do they know if it's related or not? [weevil] no [bronwen] hey, I care [ 11-Sep-01 15:10 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] but my mum is asleep so she won't care until the morning I don't think. [sallyh] hi laze [laze] hi [weevil] I don't think many people in China will be that bothered [sallyh] sorry i didn't mean it a s a personal attack [jyunyakb] [C:goto [bronwen] no i know that :) [weevil] israel has sent aid o America! [bronwen] i didn't take it as such [ 11-Sep-01 15:11 ] gregory@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] i'm still pretty much in shock [sallyh] yeah me too [gregory] anyone here how this may affect canada? [jyunyakb] where do you live? [laze] we are all pretty scared here in the US, I think [gregory] ya, even us canadians are a little scared [bronwen] yeah the canadian airports will get all US air traffic [bronwen] its been redirected, thats what i heard [gregory] Once it lkands in a canadian airpot, it just stays grounded [weevil] i'd imagine you were. I think a lot of people near London are quite concerned [sallyh] even in london they have evacuated central london stock exchange! [jyunyakb] it is a BIG loss for wolrd economy [bronwen] Our govt has asked it it's worth evacuating anywhere here... it's hardly worth it since it's midnight [gregory] I guess last year on this day, there was a treaty at camp david with the isreals [gregory] coincidence? [sallyh] really? [bronwen] probably not [laze] that's interesting [sallyh] that is interesting [weevil] my girlfriend is in the City of London - if there's any bombs there... well. [gregory] ya, they should be examing that a bit more [bronwen] good tip, dude [sallyh] London has had bombs from ira recently tho i think pple take that risk [gregory] someone must know something more then what they're telling us [bronwen] the ppl who tell us are news reporters [gregory] or at least I hope they know a bit more [bronwen] the people who know aren't going to say anything [gregory] ya, you make a point [weevil] we know that there's a risk to working in London, but nothing on the scale that's been demonstrated today. Car-bombs aren't nearly as fatal. [bronwen] so all we get is recycled eye witness reports [gregory] Wonder how long till a hacker finds out more [jyunyakb] i cant telephone to NY frend now [bronwen] have there been any car bombs in the US linked to this? [sallyh] yeah weevil i guess so [gregory] I think there was one car bonb linked, i am not sure where though [weevil] just the state-department [weevil] what does the state department do? [gregory] I just hope this isn't a start of some war [phm] there talking about retailating [weevil] by the way, our PM sends his condolences, and his best wishes to America. [gregory] ya, I heard that [bronwen] when i was 1/2 asleep earlier on i thought WE (australia) were at war with indonesia or something [gregory] Not good news to wake up to [weevil] this isn't a military attack. [bronwen] i hope it doesn't go that far that there is a war [bronwen] in retaliation though [gregory] Hopefully this all works out peacefully [weevil] the retaliation would have to be a legal matter. [bronwen] there were 69 ppl on the first plane [weevil] america can't declare war on a terrorist group. [bronwen] 58 passengers 11 crew [weevil] i'm sure they'll get assistance from the country that hosts the terrorists, though. [gregory] Now they're saying there was a 747 gone down in opensylvania [sallyh] but the US have already done that before. look at lybia [bronwen] i wonder about that pittsburg crash, if it WAS related possibly the pilot decided it was better to hit the ground instead of a building so less ppl are killed [gregory] American airlines say they lost 2 aircrafts [gregory] you make a good point bronwen [bronwen] pilots have to make tough decisions like that [gregory] beinga pilot has to be a stresful, dangerous job [phm] they planes that hit the trade center must have been flown by the terrorists [weevil] I would imagine that the pilots were killed or something, and that the terrorists flew the plane. [bronwen] *nods* [gregory] yep [weevil] nowadays, planes are highly automated. pilots don't really have to do much. [bronwen] most pilots even if they did have guns to their heads, I would imagine they would rather hit the ground [bronwen] or at least attempt a landing [weevil] exactly - you can see how deliberate that flight into the 2nd tower is. [gregory] At least then less people die [phm] god 20000(?) work in the world trade center?? [weevil] the NY emergency control centre was in one of the towers! [weevil] 50000 i heard. [phm] ugh [gregory] I heard 50000 too [bronwen] NOW they say that there is a bomb in a school near the trade centre [gregory] I haven't heard that yet [bronwen] well where it used to be [weevil] canary wharf has been evacuated. [bronwen] some guy on the ground is saying it [bronwen] we're getting cnn and NBS i think [bronwen] hmm CBS [bronwen] NBC? [bronwen] thats it [weevil] all canadian airports have been shut down. [bronwen] probably for the best [gregory] ya, keep the planes grounded, everywhere [bronwen] 50000 is it's maximum capacity but 20000 were actually in there [bronwen] thats more people than live in my town [gregory] oh, okay [gregory] that is a lot [bronwen] the mind boggles [ 11-Sep-01 15:26 ] gregory@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] wouldn't it be awful if this wasn't done for any real reason. [ 11-Sep-01 15:26 ] thecolor@sdf has joined ny. [phm] they cetainly cant have a good reason [gregory] Never thought I would see the day that the trade center collapses [weevil] what happened in Chicago? [thecolor] It's unreal. Perl Harbor of today. [thecolor] phm, you see my posts on cypher? [phm] yeah [weevil] no - you musn't confuse acts of war with acts of terrorism. [ 11-Sep-01 15:28 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [thecolor] I'm tryuing to keep it up to date. [djm62] wtf [gregory] Perl Harbor, at least let the US know who they were [djm62] is it definitely terrorists? [phm] this is far more scary [phm] how on earth could they make this happen [weevil] an act of war wouldn't bother with trade towers. [thecolor] But they were symbols! [thecolor] It's the importance of them. [thecolor] The Unity they were portraying. [weevil] war gets to the symbols much later on, after they've knocked out intelligence and military sites. [djm62] they got that too [phm] pentagon was hit... [djm62] It must be someone new [weevil] yes, but you would initially attack missile silos and barracks etc. [gregory] If it was war, the US would have been ready, they would have had warning [djm62] Intel must at least keep some track of these groupas [stdio] quit [ 11-Sep-01 15:31 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] i'm cautious to ask how intel is related to this... [djm62] sorry, intelligence [starbuck] no intel was aware of that [weevil] ah [djm62] no, they were? [djm62] or no they were'nt [starbuck] nope not at all [sallyh] hehehe intel on here means intel! [weevil] well, they keep on talking about a threat that a palestinian group made a few weeks ago. [starbuck] no fucking clue [bronwen] intelligence. [bronwen] or lack thereof [djm62] yeah [weevil] but you must remember they get 100's of threats a week. [gregory] I would love to get some real information about this [bronwen] time will tell [djm62] got CNN all over the world [starbuck] man I think my training will be very affected by that [djm62] what trainging [djm62] ? [gregory] ya, what training? [weevil] such as? I think that two crowded towers collapsing is information to last a while. [starbuck] im mil [thecolor] So many web sites are down due to traffic, it's ahard to kjeep up but iby radio. [djm62] ooof [starbuck] thecolor do you think my training will be affected by that ;) [gregory] Governemtn is taken action for what initially was planned for a nuclear attack [djm62] I think your training will be *affected* [bronwen] who was nuking who? [gregory] starbuck, what training? [weevil] what building in Chicago was hit? [ 11-Sep-01 15:35 ] stdio has left ny. [starbuck] djm62 I go at the same school as the int does [gregory] no nuking yet, that is just the severity of it [djm62] people here from NY? [starbuck] nope [gregory] Alberta, Canada [bronwen] no [starbuck] ny is on shut down [bronwen] whyalla australia [phm] comunication is down [starbuck] kingston canada [ 11-Sep-01 15:35 ] sqrl@sdf has joined ny. [thecolor] b Canda 's air is shut down too. [sqrl] help [djm62] comms out- seriously? [bronwen] yeah [starbuck] I think I will have plenty of job in the near future [djm62] I thought maybe no-one would be bothering [thecolor] I hope they don't call people back to the military, if it gets worse. [starbuck] there is not in-and out in NY now [sqrl] echo [djm62] wher're the sdf machines? [ 11-Sep-01 15:37 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [sqrl] exit [smj] hey so whats going on? [gregory] yep:echo [smj] world war III? [djm62] not much [bronwen] well they obviously didn't get blown up [thecolor] Seattel dmj [starbuck] thecolor I think it would be more something like a cold war [sallyh] sounds like it could be smj! [thecolor] Still freaky. [gregory] very freaky [thecolor] I'm trying to keep cypher up to date, you see starbuck. [smj] I don't watch the news. [smj] I don't watch TV. [bronwen] me either but a freind phoned me [weevil] jesus - you people seem to love the idea of war resulting from terrorist attacks. [djm62] Palestinians [bronwen] what do you know, smj? [gregory] There better not be war [starbuck] they dont know who made the attacks yet [smj] Well, someone just emailed me and told me we were at war. [thecolor] Exactly. We can't have a war without knowledge of who started it. [bronwen] its terrorism only so far [weevil] like I said, you can't declare war on a terrorist group. [bronwen] 3 planes, 2 for each tower of the WTC and one for the pentagon [ 11-Sep-01 15:38 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] it was very planned though [djm62] I almost hopt it's home-grown [thecolor] the plains were the US's too. Just hijacked [djm62] I like my air breatheable [starbuck] one of them was going to canada [weevil] four planes - there's one unaccounted for, [phm] local security sucks apparently [darklady] too many different and coordinated attackes to be homegrown [smj] no way. [smj] I'm looking at the CNN page. [thecolor] phm, you realize you are still sitting on cypher as petepete? [ 11-Sep-01 15:40 ] sqrl has left ny. [djm62] there's got to be some retribution [phm] yeah. so? [starbuck] this was fucking all planned long ago [smj] It looks like this is an act of war. [darklady] the death toll in NY has to in the 1000sends [thecolor] Just making sure you knew. [thecolor] I didn't want any hanging shells, as that happend with my first system. [weevil] it looks like an act of -terrorism- [ 11-Sep-01 15:40 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [starbuck] it is [thecolor] I was making sure it was occupid. [ 11-Sep-01 15:40 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] really, if i was going to start a war i'd start blowing stuff up and not telling anyone what i was doing either [djm62] it's going to cause trouble... [weevil] yes, but you wouldn't bother with the trade towers. [starbuck] bronwen that is the job of the int to find those who wants to do that but this time they failed [bronwen] yeah i know [djm62] the ramifications are going to incvolve a lot of bloodshed [starbuck] weevile its the first target I would pick [bronwen] as the tv dudes asked of the terrorist specialist, why didn't you guys work it out?? [thecolor] smj, can my com, beconnected with yours at all? [starbuck] trade center and pentagon [ 11-Sep-01 15:42 ] sallyh@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] why? It's got no military value! And then you'd have Americanmilitary bombing your country... [djm62] I hope the US can find who did it [weevil] without damaging america very much. [smj] terrorism, war, what does it matter? [bronwen] aahhh but the american military isn't bombing ANY country are they [starbuck] weevile they dont have a fucking clue about who did this [djm62] before starting a war [weevil] there *is* a difference - trust me. [smj] Do you call what the US does in iraq tterrorist? no its war. [starbuck] and without the trade center is a fucking major target [smj] well, its not a fucking video game. [sallyh] that is because you are in the US..if you were in iraq you wld call it terrorism [smj] Do you know how large those buildings are? [weevil] war is when you hold an entire country to account. Terrorism is the acts of a small group of people. [thecolor] over 110 stories each [bronwen] 1400 feet tall [bronwen] 110 stories [smj] were. [smj] Nah, this is war. [starbuck] theyre are fucking gone [bronwen] 20000 people [bronwen] at a guess [djm62] RIP [thecolor] not including those outside hit by rrubble [bronwen] not all of them [weevil] Yeah, well I'm sure people that were in canary wharf in London when it got bombed ... [sallyh] they are showing Jerusalem pple celebrating because of it [phm] many of them got out i belive [weevil] knew it wasn't an act of war [smj] cnn has no more news than this bullet list. [djm62] no way! jerusalem doesn't need war [smj] thats pretty fucked up. [bronwen] all the news pages i tried timed out [starbuck] fuck it could be anyone [sallyh] but the US has bombed Israel [gregory] bronwen trie cnet.com [starbuck] chinese [bronwen] oh apart from that [smj] Yeh it cuold be. [djm62] sallh: when? [bronwen] i didn't count it because there wasn't any news there [gregory] its the only one up [thecolor] smj, can my com (cypher) be connected to sdf for a larger comnmunication group? [bronwen] very minimal anyway [ 11-Sep-01 15:46 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] anyway I go to bed [ 11-Sep-01 15:47 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] I'm going to have to go to bed too [djm62] bed? [bronwen] its after 1am and i got work tomorrow [bronwen] today even [bronwen] being in australia and all [weevil] g'day (chortle) [bronwen] geez i don't know how i'm going to sleep [weevil] sorry. [bronwen] i feel sick to my stomache [smj] Yeh This is too weird. [bronwen] g'day mate [gregory] not good at all [smj] extremely surreal. [phm] yeah [weevil] The Queen sends her best wishes, and expresses her disbelief. [bronwen] i thought yesterday was bad [ 11-Sep-01 15:48 ] ace@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] one of my closest friends from my childhood I found out was on herion [ 11-Sep-01 15:49 ] gregory@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] but this is a way worse shock to the system :( [weevil] bad week. [bronwen] all round [smj] Yeh.. [ 11-Sep-01 15:49 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [weevil] I'd imagine finding your firend to be an addict would be more shocking - it's more personal. [smj] the US might tally up civilan causalties.. but not like this guys. [bronwen] anyway i just hope they find more ppl alive than dead [smj] when we are doing terrorist stuff like you said. [bronwen] (my friend already had a lot of drug problems, this was just another even WORSE one) [weevil] there were people jumping out of the higher floors on fire :( [djm62] bugger all alive after that [bronwen] i know i know [bronwen] don't give me night mares :( [bronwen] I've already had nightmares for 5 nights running anyway [bronwen] night all [weevil] take some time off work - get some rest, mate. [laze] night [bronwen] heh I wish i could... [bronwen] nighty night [ 11-Sep-01 15:51 ] bronwen@sdf has left ny. [djm62] man... [dvnt] anyone in here [laze] my company is actually closing for the day. [dvnt] actually in NY? [djm62] going [ 11-Sep-01 15:52 ] djm62@sdf has left ny. [laze] everyone's just watching TV anyway. [thecolor] where do you work laze? [laze] boston actually [weevil] it's remarkable how everybody beefs up security *after* attacks. [weevil] surely they should do it before them? [laze] we're all wondering if anyone from our place was on the American flight that was hijacked [weevil] it makes much more sense. [weevil] the flight was going to LA. [weevil] there were tow American Airline planes hijacked. [laze] the one from Logan, I mean [laze] We have an office in Brea, CA [laze] at this point it looks OK - no one was definitely on it. [weevil] well, I must go now. best wishes. [ 11-Sep-01 15:55 ] weevil@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:55 ] mdb@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:56 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:56 ] sallyh@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:56 ] mdb@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:57 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] ? [dvnt] damn, how do you get out of here? [thecolor] type "quit" with a colon first [thecolor] ":quit" [dvnt] ahh, thanks :) [thecolor] no [thecolor] prob [ 11-Sep-01 15:59 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 16:05 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 16:10 ] alky@sdf has joined ny. [alky] hello. [thecolor] Hey alky, you get my mail? [thecolor] alky? [phm] hi [ 11-Sep-01 16:15 ] azteca@sdf has joined ny. [thecolor] waz up phm? [azteca] hi, everyone... [thecolor] alky is not listening. [phm] in shock still [thecolor] hguess so. [phm] this is just the tip of the iceberg so to speak [ 11-Sep-01 16:17 ] azteca@sdf has left ny. [thecolor] Really, do you have more info? [phm] no. [phm] i just think that [ 11-Sep-01 16:18 ] jordi@sdf has joined ny. [phm] this cant just be forgoten [thecolor] tell me about it. [ 11-Sep-01 16:21 ] jordi@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 16:23 ] pascal@sdf has joined ny. [pascal] DD [ 11-Sep-01 16:25 ] pascal has left ny. [alky] anybody awake here? [phm] yeah [alky] Hi phm. [alky] man, this is crazy shit. [ace] hi [alky] I wonder who did it. [thecolor] alky you rget my mail? [alky] yeah, I just checked it. [alky] I can't connect. [alky] cypher.7thsign.net? [thecolor] uyes. ssh or ssh only. [thecolor] I have locked telnet [alky] ok, was thinking that. [alky] it pinged just fine. [ 11-Sep-01 16:30 ] hackdesk@sdf has joined ny. [hackdesk] hi all [alky] hello. [hackdesk] anyone here from usa ? [alky] yes. [alky] where are youy from hackdesk? [hackdesk] news about the crashes ? [hackdesk] is usa really under attack ? [alky] 4, with many casualties. [hackdesk] is this thew [hackdesk] cnn is blocked out over here [hackdesk] holland [alky] mainly 2 buildings with 50000 capacity, gone! [hackdesk] wish you all the best over there [alky] estimated around 40000 people possible killed minus some evacuated. [hackdesk] do they know who is responsible yet ? [alky] only speculation. [hackdesk] ok thanks [hackdesk] may i bother you later for more updates ? [alky] where are you from? [hackdesk] holland [phm] read the com review... [phm] much info here [hackdesk] netherlands europe [hackdesk] how do i get com reviuw ? [alky] ah. [alky] you oculd :review or type :dump for the whole log. [phm] ':review 999 [phm] ' [hackdesk] cnn is backed out over here... [hackdesk] ok thanks [phm] or something . that is if you have a bufffer [alky] really? why? [hackdesk] i diont know [phm] lots of news site are crashed [hackdesk] asusa.com is also black [alky] I bet. [alky] I'm sure there are lots of traffi. [alky] er.. traffic. [hackdesk] usa.com black [hackdesk] news.org black [thecolor] I'm trying to keep cypher up to date (for the most important suff alky/phm [hackdesk] ass press site is down [hackdesk] thank you all... later..... [alky] bye [phm] geez [phm] surreal [thecolor] what phm? [thecolor] yes! [thecolor] I can't believe people jumped from the Trade center. [phm] its horrible [thecolor] very! [thecolor] Have you ever been there phm? [phm] no [thecolor] Now we will never get a chance to see a piece of history. [phm] heh [phm] at least we live in interesting times [thecolor] Where is wall street in relation to the Trade Center buildings? [thecolor] Indeed. [ 11-Sep-01 16:39 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [phm] possibly the most imortant time for humans [thecolor] Sntr McKane is stating that this is an :"Obvious" attack of war. [phm] depends on definitions [thecolor] If you know of people who need a *nix shell similar to sdf, they can mail accounts@cypher.7thsign.net [phm] or sdf.,.,? [thecolor] yes, kjust advertising. [phm] hah [ 11-Sep-01 16:42 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [phm] sdf will always be the number 1 shell [smj] yeh fuck of fthecolor. [ace] lol [thecolor] I never said it was not. [thecolor] I'm new, just learning. [phm] its good [ace] but we dont have free telnet or gcc here.. [smj] major places have been attacked in the US and this guy adverts. [phm] i like chocolate i eat lots [smj] how fucking insensitive!~ [ 11-Sep-01 16:44 ] thecolor@sdf has joined ny. [smj] go away spam. [phm] haha bad people [phm] nobondy understands [ 11-Sep-01 16:45 ] hackdesk has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 16:45 ] thecolor has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 16:45 ] thecolor has left ny. [smj] yes, no one understand.s [ 11-Sep-01 16:45 ] thecolor@sdf has joined ny. [phm] except rei maybe [alky] nobody understands what? [thecolor] dude, you were joking early t [thecolor] I was just conversing, [smj] you don't understand about this! [phm] rei and i [alky] I understand as well as anybody else I'd say. [phm] and sm and mj .maybe [alky] You know something I dont'? [phm] forget it [ace] rei? [phm] hari seldon [ 11-Sep-01 16:48 ] sfakian@sdf has joined ny. [ace] http://www.nj.com/policescanner/ [ 11-Sep-01 11:49 ] corey@sdf has joined ny. [alky] what's that site ace? [sfakian] help [ace] New Jersey police scanner [alky] I mean.. wht kind of information .. [alky] ok. [sfakian] HELP [ 11-Sep-01 16:50 ] thecolor has left ny. [corey] who..i heard about the NY / PENTAGON attack. HOw many dead ? [phm] thousands [corey] FUCKING A! [phm] both WTC buildongs collapsed [corey] i heard a plane is still missing. [ 11-Sep-01 16:50 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [phm] yeah [alky] a 5th plane? [phm] they sent jets after it... [alky] huh, I haven't heard of that. [ 11-Sep-01 16:51 ] smjalso@sdf has joined ny. [ace] no one is reported dead in the pentagon.. just that a plane crashed into it and that its been evacuated [ 11-Sep-01 16:51 ] cham@sdf has joined ny. [corey] I haven't seen any video of it. [corey] (yet). Is the video clip of the event awesome? [phm] its just incredable [smj] why do you need to see a video? [darklady] CNN just reported that a conservative estimate of people in the two buildings is 30000 [alky] I saw some video of the pentagon.. it looks bad, but not too bad. [alky] well., any is too bad but.. you know. [phm] you wont belive it [corey] why not smj? ENTERTAINMENT. [alky] what! [alky] entertainment?! [phm] better than films.,.,..,.!! [alky] fuckoff. [corey] VOYEURISM! [ 11-Sep-01 16:52 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [sfakian] leave ny [smjalso] seems as if you can't talk freely in here without getting booted. corey. [corey] FREE SPEECH! :) [alky] 10's of thousands of innocent people just lost thier lives, and you call it entertainment? [phm] people are like that [phm] dont pretend there nice [smjalso] Not saying entertainment here, but free speech is important. Helps some understand [cham] can anyone give a good argument as to why these terrorists are being called cowardly? [corey] life wil go on...I am just curious. [phm] this is big tho [corey] I wonder who did it.... ? Usama BIn Laden (How do you spell that???) [phm] nothing is the same after this [corey] Anarchists? [cham] not that I support any of this at all, but it doesnt exactly seem cowardly to die for a cause [corey] Eco-terrorists? [smj] I ckilled him. [sfakian] quit [alky] terroist? hmm.. [phm] bio weapons will be next [phm] fucking scary [ 11-Sep-01 16:55 ] corey has left ny. [alky] I wonder if it's really appropriate to say that. [sfakian] help [smjalso] free speech alky [alky] declaration of war. [sfakian] k sorry how do i get help in here? [alky] I'm not shooting down free speech people.. get off it. [alky] say what you want... reprocautions can accur. [cham] ? [smjalso] no but it seems smj is shootingpeople who convers about other topics in here. [phm] such as? [alky] whatever. [ 11-Sep-01 16:56 ] mith@sdf has joined ny. [sfakian] bye [cham] wow.. a huge event worthy of discussion is occuring, and all we can worry about is proper chat ettiquite [smjalso] he killed that dude thecolor several times [sfakian] end [sfakian] how do i leave the com utility? [smjalso] type :quit [smj] he was advertising. [sfakian] thanks [ 11-Sep-01 16:57 ] sfakian@sdf has left ny. [smj] I kill all spam. [smjalso] So he mentioned his site one time, buig fdeal. [phm] haha [smjalso] He was talking about the subject also. [smjalso] Just brought up another subject shortly [alky] smjalso=thecolor. :) [phm] g.d [phm] same ip.. that dosnt mean.. [alky] did he kill your session or something? [smjalso] Huh? [alky] nm [ 11-Sep-01 17:00 ] shorty@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] I noticed that people in here advertise their sites all the time. [phm] calm down [smjalso] ok [smjalso] Just trying to be fare. [phm] hee [phm] impossible [phm] was that a pun? :0 [smjalso] is it? [smjalso] impoissible, that is. [phm] really? how so? [phm] fare/fair was....?? [smjalso] No, is it "impossible" your words.? [smjalso] Yeah, so I can't sepll. [phm] typo or pun? [smjalso] typo [phm] ohh :( [phm] didnt you learn nothing is fair? [smjalso] Just stating, if others can mention their sites, then others should be able to sport theirs ones in a wehile. [smjalso] It's not like they are " [smjalso] spamming" using sdf's mailing sys. [smjalso] Now that would not be cool. [mith] how come i still have running water, electricity, and phone service? [smjalso] where ar you mith [ace] ur in ny? [mith] how come i can still watch cable tv and listen to the radio? [smjalso] afk [mith] no. [mith] these terrorists suck. [phm] just as well [ 11-Sep-01 17:05 ] ika@sdf has joined ny. [mith] if i can't go into work, i'd better still get paid. [smj] So did you know there were four planes? [mith] well, i've got to go put on my gas mask and get my shotgun now.. [smj] the military had to shot one down. [smj] shoot. [mith] where'd you hear that? [smj] my bosses's husband is in the military and called up. [ 11-Sep-01 17:08 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [cham] I heard the same one. F-16s scrambled on the plane headed for the pentagon [smj] they are forcing planes down that aren't responding to radio. [cham] er thing [smj] they've landed one, but shot down the other. [smjalso] The president is adressing the nation [cham] cnn? [ 11-Sep-01 17:08 ] hellchik@sdf has joined ny. [mith] fuck the president [hellchik] re ;) [smj] hi [hellchik] hi [smjalso] nice [mith] wait, he's the guy that's supposed to talk to us and calm us down [ 11-Sep-01 17:10 ] ika has left ny. [smjalso] You don't lke him mith? [mith] i'd rather listen to a reporter [smjalso] ok [smjalso] At least he is making sense so far. [ 11-Sep-01 17:10 ] trmedia@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] No grammitcal mistakes yet [phm] dont be so much sensitive [smjalso] shorty, look at your other teminal. [mith] oh you can hack any thing that you want... [trmedia] i want to knnow why. [hellchik] anyone knows the freequency of cnn? [ 11-Sep-01 17:11 ] cathcart@sdf has joined ny. [mith] with just teco and ddt [trmedia] cnn is not available on antenna-FM [hellchik] mh shit [ 11-Sep-01 17:12 ] azteca@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:12 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [phm] 92.7Mhz [hellchik] thx [pietro] who [pietro] who wants to explane me what happened? [smjalso] Alot pietro [trmedia] they blew up the world trade centers in NYC [pietro] i'm from switzerlanbd and i 'm back now from work [trmedia] they hit the pentagon [smjalso] the state scneter [trmedia] they crashed in pittsburg [smjalso] hijacked several plains [trmedia] they hit camp david [smjalso] *(planes) [mith] camp david really? [pietro] who did so? [trmedia] really [trmedia] the palestinians [hellchik] die paldstinenser [trmedia] and bin laden [azteca] Now my love problems seem like they are not problems... [smjalso] No, that is punisihing those that did not do anything. [ 11-Sep-01 17:14 ] tec@sdf has joined ny. [pietro] azteca.. i guess [mith] let's all go to church and pray for the palestinians [hellchik] good idea [azteca] Compared to what's happening. [smjalso] WE need to find out who specifcly. [pietro] who bvelieve in god in there? [trmedia] the palestinians were cheering when they found that our country was under stress [tec] i [pietro] i don't [trmedia] and that we had fires [trmedia] and explosions [trmedia] the were cheering [trmedia] and laughing [mith] i cheer [smjalso] You are there? [pietro] which in you is from one of those cities? [smjalso] How can you tell? [trmedia] ? [trmedia] how can i tell what [tec] ? [smj] I've not hread anything from my exgf in manhattan :( [smjalso] I hope she is ok. [ 11-Sep-01 17:16 ] ethanhnt@sdf has joined ny. [pietro] why you say ":_("? [trmedia] because his g/f is there [smj] because she works in lower manhattan. [smjalso] Does she not have any other communications [azteca] This is not the way to resolve anything... but let's remember how many people have died in... Vietnam, how many mexicans killed by border patrol agents... etc... I don't support any act of terrorism... but the us has done terrorism also... but " legal" terrorism. [pietro] oh [trmedia] where they bwew up the trade centers [pietro] azteca you're right... [trmedia] we should pull the trigger on bin laden [ 11-Sep-01 17:17 ] brogers@sdf has joined ny. [mith] i'm hoping for more attacks [smj] The problem is this is the worst terrorist attack ever. [ethanhnt] killing leads to more killing [hellchik] me too @mith [pietro] the arabian have said something in a language that everyone understands! [smj] where do we draw the line between war and terrorism? [trmedia] its a fine line [mith] when we can't fight back? [trmedia] that is crossed often [pietro] smj.. ther's no line [pietro] see ya people, i'm going [trmedia] it's like peral harbor [hellchik] do you think it _is_ war? [ 11-Sep-01 17:18 ] pietro@sdf has left ny. [trmedia] not war [trmedia] the only enemy is bin laden [smj] well, pearl harbour was nothing. [smjalso] peral harbor for today. [mith] ah, a failed attempt to attack camp david. [smj] you know what happened after pearl harbour? [trmedia] we should kill bin laden [trmedia] the japanese celebrated [smj] yes they shot the plane down.. a passanger plane and our own military shot it down. [azteca] yes ... killing leads to more killing. let's just stop... jejeje i'm a little shocked... [ 11-Sep-01 17:19 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [trmedia] it was going to kill more than were on board [smj] yes, but nagasaki and hiroshima were destroyed. [trmedia] including them on board [smj] have you ever been there? [smj] I have.. [smj] there is still structures left with obvious traces. [hellchik] and people [ 11-Sep-01 17:20 ] ethanhnt has left ny. [smj] Yes. [tec] what happended in America [trmedia] in no way am i promoting the united states use of nuclear weapons in the fight against bin laden, but we should not just sit and watch him destroy our country [djm62] anyn news about who was responsible [trmedia] bin laden was [djm62] was it bin laden? [hellchik] nope [trmedia] yes [mith] okay, i aughtta go now [smjalso] A nuclear fight would be much worse! [djm62] definitely [ 11-Sep-01 17:20 ] akirax@sdf has joined ny. [trmedia] it was [ 11-Sep-01 17:20 ] mith@sdf has left ny. [djm62] how do you know? [trmedia] its on reuters.com [trmedia] go take a look [trmedia] if its not down right now [ 11-Sep-01 17:21 ] celica@sdf has joined ny. [tec] and its on www.cnn.com [azteca] Damn! The borders have been closed... I live in Tijuana... and I think that people are very worried here about this. [djm62] just home from work... [hellchik] well... he just said that he is schuldig [trmedia] people should be worried [ 11-Sep-01 17:22 ] k0deman@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] schuldig? [celica] the thelp [cathcart] /? [hellchik] german word... dunno the english [trmedia] bin laden 2 weeks ago said he is doing something, and 2 weeks later this happens... seems suspicious... [hellchik] *dictionary* [trmedia] it has to have been him [trmedia] unless he claims responsibility for something he didnt do [k0deman] my condolances to the help [hellchik] schuldig = guilty [djm62] gotcha [ 11-Sep-01 17:23 ] akirax@sdf has left ny. [djm62] got to pick up some german [k0deman] oops, sorry, new to this com thing! :) my condolenses to the people with friends and family affected! [hellchik] and i gotta get up some english ;) [ 11-Sep-01 17:23 ] stdio@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] smj have you heard fromyour ex-gf yet? [azteca] USA... "All your base are belong to us" [ 11-Sep-01 17:25 ] cathcart has left ny. [trmedia] ? [djm62] ?!?!?!? [smjalso] funny. azteca [smjalso] Your' so advertising a song though. Careful [hellchik] don't understand.. would anyone explain? [azteca] http://www.planettribes.com/allyourbase/index.shtml [k0deman] i gotta switch stations, brb [k0deman] quit [ 11-Sep-01 17:26 ] zot@sdf has joined ny. [smj] per reuters: [smj] 208.188.18.22 [smj] An Arab journalist with access to bin Laden told Reuters in London that the renegade Saudi three weeks ago had warned of an "unprecedented attack" on U.S. interests. [shorty] smj [smj] azteca this really isn't a game. [shorty] CT[3~ [trmedia] somebody ought to make a rainbow six mission for this [shorty] The color would like to know when he can have his account back.. he is bummbed that he cant' log on [hellchik] well i gotta go now... don't understand anything [hellchik] bye [hellchik] argh how do i quit from here? [smjalso] type :wuit [smjalso] no, :quit [hellchik] thx [ 11-Sep-01 17:29 ] bayres@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:29 ] hellchik@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:29 ] kthorn@sdf has joined ny. [celica] lsikdjfasdf [djm62] what hapened with color? [ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] bayres@sdf has left ny. [smjalso] He got booted, accorind to shorty. [ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] k0deman has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] zot has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:30 ] splits@sdf has joined ny. [celica] everyone has left NY! [splits] hey [djm62] splits [smjalso] I believe it! [azteca] life is a game [splits] there are still people here [splits] life is shit! [shorty] yep [brogers] you in NYC area, splits? [splits] nope sorry dude [splits] but i heard about the things that went on [brogers] I'm in Dallas, TX. Work is near DFW Intl airport closed the building and sent everyone home. [celica] what the hell did they have against the ppl in the WTC [ 11-Sep-01 17:32 ] magnus@sdf has joined ny. [splits] that was some bad stuff [smj] seatac is closed. [smj] my office is closed too. [smjalso] Most airports are. [smjalso] Are you in contact with your ex yet? [splits] yeah i wish my school was closed [splits] but i live in england [ 11-Sep-01 17:33 ] james1@sdf has joined ny. [trmedia] all airports are [trmedia] closed [splits] so..... it probably wont be [djm62] you're far enough away to be safe [smjalso] Seattle Center is closed also. [ 11-Sep-01 17:33 ] evilbob@sdf has joined ny. [trmedia] all world trade centers are closed [ 11-Sep-01 12:33 ] aeoe@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:33 ] kocok@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:33 ] evilbob@sdf has left ny. [djm62] all of them [trmedia] no baseball games tonight [kocok] hi all [splits] woa theres a alot of people here now! [james1] hello [celica] we need to destroy palantine [kocok] what's ? [trmedia] all government agencies are closed [djm62] don't be stupid [trmedia] except FBI [trmedia] it was Bin Laden [kocok] that's great .. US on red alert :) [smjalso] That will not solve the problem, jkust make it worse. [aeoe] wheres yr proof [james1] not realy [trmedia] look on reuters [ 11-Sep-01 17:35 ] tec has left ny. [smj] An Arab journalist with access to bin Laden told Reuters in London that the renegade Saudi three weeks ago had warned of an "unprecedented attack" on U.S. interests. [splits] fuck up palantine! [kocok] celine : why u want destroy them ? [djm62] no! [nociasso] is there any confirmation on the attack on camp david? [splits] cause i haae them! [smj] the plane was shot down. [splits] *hate [smj] on its way to camp david. [nociasso] i see [ 11-Sep-01 17:35 ] cheller@sdf has joined ny. [smj] a passanger plane and our military shot it down. [kocok] lol ... [djm62] for God's sake, do you like breathing air? [brogers] hate is what drives events like this to occur [djm62] smj- really? [kocok] yes u rite . hate make this world more stupid [aeoe] smj: ive heard that elsewhere, what is the source of the report? [smj] Yes. [smjalso] yup, and a war (attacking them) will do just that. [smj] US military. [ 11-Sep-01 17:36 ] kthorn@sdf has left ny. [aeoe] holy shit [aeoe] hfuck [smj] we've had alot of mobilization here. [aeoe] where are you [brogers] reuters seems to be down [smj] there are major bases in washington. [djm62] did starbuck leave? [smj] washington state. [brogers] yeah... was thinking of starbuck earlier [kocok] how bout city of Ny rite now ? [alky] realy we shot it down? [alky] the best move I suppose. [smj] Yes. [smj] it wouldn't respond to radio. [alky] yeah, I heard that. [kocok] smj ? who r u ? [smj] another was forced down. [shorty] wonder where Color wehnt to [brogers] the shoot down was the Pennsylvania plane? [shorty] he was just in he a min agao [alky] a plane was forceddown? [smj] he was spamming here, so he has been kicked off. [alky] was it hostile? [shorty] well you let him back in some time ? [smj] shorty, shut up. [shorty] [phm] good dictatorships work best [k0deman] wetm = sweet [aeoe] you know [smj] I agree.. as long is the dic is cool, all i want is dic. [gremgrem] hehehe [phm] A.I is cool [aeoe] if the internet was involved, alot of things are going to be shut down [kocok] djm62 : sdf or anything elol [ 11-Sep-01 17:52 ] gremgrem@sdf has left ny. [smj] like sdf? [phm] yes! [smjalso] Does anyone have connections with that group that can find out more accurate info, or know if someone does? [aeoe] hope not [smjalso] Hey, links help [smj] Well, they are asking people to leave here.. so I'm going home now. [brogers] this could hurt the availablity of crypto to general public [ 11-Sep-01 17:52 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [kocok] we have a freedom to speak rite ? [magnus] I think we can kiss pgp goodbye, don't you? [jlw] ;:quit [shorty] i got the newse PGP [aeoe] i could definitely see alot of things coming down, like illegal to own unix [shorty] bullshit [djm62] don't get para [jlw] eer, how do i leave? [djm62] =paranoid [aeoe] all CS degrees have to take an oath of loyalty or something [nociasso] type :quit [ 11-Sep-01 17:53 ] jlw@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 17:53 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [k0deman] maybe i'm a bad guy, but i'd sort of like to hear what hte supossed terrorist group or country has to say. why? [sjlawson] quit:::quit [ 11-Sep-01 17:53 ] sjlawson@sdf has left ny. [djm62] It doesn't matter [kocok] btw .. i feel so hapapy coz US get bussy coz their capital shits on WTC [afay] I don't think any group is taking responsibility for the attacks. [brogers] maybe now would be a good time to download the source code to GPG [kocok] afay : why ? [djm62] unless they think they can win a world war, they've hurt their cause [djm62] well executed, but senseless [phm] mad [k0deman] hmm, they (media) was saying something about a muzlem group, i think, but i could be wrong, i can't remember there name. [kocok] world war ? whay ? coz US is fucking shit world police ? [afay] bin Laden's group says that he is incapable of putting together such an attack, and that BinLaden is upset at the attacks. [magnus] Yup, people are gonna think maybe Echelon wouold have spotted the terrorists in time... [smjalso] I thought I heard something about an Amesh group that became tired of their tradition. [brogers] heh [djm62] whoever can do this must have some resource [aeoe] brogers:L actually, now would be a good time to wipe all encryption off yr hard disk and pretend you never heard o f it [djm62] they can't leave no trace [kocok] hey .. anyone can tell me .. [brogers] not resources just organization [brogers] or coordination [kocok] why WTC got collapsed ? by bom ? or weak building ? [afay] ``We are not supporting terrorism. Osama does not have the capability. We condemn this." -quote from Abdul Hai Mutmaen, talking to Reuters newsman. [phm] its scary that it was so easy [brogers] because a fucking plane crashed into the middle of it fuels tanks full of jet fuel [aeoe] ppl are not going to think logically about anyones rights, they are going to think about the threat to their own lives and are going to panic, like in every war situation [k0deman] and not to make lightof the situation, it is tragic, but who ever pulled this off, did there home work. it can't be asy to do this kind of thing! [smjalso] Causes quite a boom. [phm] easyer that it should be [afay] I imagine that this is the end of skyscrapers. I can't imagine another building taller than 40 stories being built ever again. [djm62] they must have done something with airport security [kocok] smjalso : who got the boom ? [aeoe] afay: that sucks man , damn [djm62] unless it really is laughably bad [kocok] terorism or US themself . lol [smjalso] the buildings got the boom. [kocok] aeoe : who sucks man ? [ 11-Sep-01 17:58 ] fsp@sdf has left ny. [k0deman] anyone think i could be an internal group, blaming a knowen terrorist group? at all possible? [phm] anything is possible [smjalso] ANYTHING! [kocok] i hope white house got birthday cake too just like WYTC [ 11-Sep-01 17:59 ] cyclops@sdf has joined ny. [afay] kodeman- I sure hope it's not an internal group. [smjalso] Remeber the attack in 1993? [k0deman] afay: yeah, that would scary. [cyclops] More carefull [brogers] kocok: spitting venom is not lending to discussion. your hate is not welcome. join discussion or please leave. [smjalso] This just finished it off. [cyclops] World againt US ?? [smjalso] Against the WTC [ 11-Sep-01 18:00 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:00 ] ssk@sdf has joined ny. [cyclops] yah ayh [kocok] actually againts the US [ 11-Sep-01 18:00 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [phm] in many ways i think its less trouble if it was an internal group [cyclops] Don't thing again that Us is the superpower country :P [cyclops] lol [ 11-Sep-01 18:01 ] darklady@sdf has left ny for lobby. [cyclops] world know [kocok] quit [ 11-Sep-01 13:01 ] jschro1@sdf has joined ny. [cyclops] kock ?? [phm] ':quit' [afay] bus service and train service has been stopped on the East Coast [afay] The US-Canada border is closed. [brogers] superpowers even have trouble dealing with "the network effect". terrorist groups are not generally organized in a centralized fashion, or even hierarchical. [ 11-Sep-01 18:01 ] kocok@sdf has left ny. [cyclops] really ?? [afay] I'm sure glad I don't have to be anyplace today. [k0deman] phm: perhaps less trouble, but for me more disturbing! [afay] other than here (at work) [ 11-Sep-01 18:02 ] ssk@sdf has left ny. [cyclops] qquit [cyclops] quit [phm] less chance of world war if its internal. [ 11-Sep-01 13:02 ] jschro1@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:02 ] cyclops@sdf has left ny. [smjalso] type ":quit" less quotes [brogers] phm: agree. I see your point. [k0deman] truth absolutely. [djm62] yeah [ 11-Sep-01 18:03 ] zyla@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] here is an update for all new comers. [smjalso] 12:30 p.m.: The FAA says 50 flights are in U.S. airspace, but none are reporting any problems. [smjalso] 12:15 p.m.: The Immigration and Naturalization Service says U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico are on the highest state of alert, but no decision has been made about closing borders. [smjalso] 12:15 p.m: San Francisco International Airport is evacuated and shut down. The airport was the destination of American Airlines Flight 77, which was one of the aircraft to strike the World Trade Center. [smjalso] 12:04 p.m.: Los Angeles International Airport, the destination of two of the hijacked American Airlines flights, is evacuated. [smjalso] 11:59 a.m.: United Airlines confirms that Flight 175, from Boston to Los Angeles, has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members aboard. Emergency personnel at the scene say there are no survivors. [smjalso] 11:26 a.m.: United Airlines reports that United Flight 93, en route from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, has crashed in Pennsylvania, southeast of Pittsburgh. The airline also says that it is "deeply concerned" about United Flight 175. [aeoe] fuck [aeoe] world war? im moving to canada or some shit if that happens [ 11-Sep-01 18:03 ] cyclops@sdf has joined ny. [phm] well im in england and imaffraid [cyclops] who is the teorsm [cyclops] i want to know them [cyclops] and give they a gift [cyclops] lol [phm] g.d [brogers] no moving to canada if borders are closed. [phm] i cant understand some stupidity [afay] I just heard on the radio audio from the streets of the West Bank. There are people celebrating because of the attack! I couldn't believe it! [ 11-Sep-01 18:04 ] cyclops@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:04 ] kalensr@sdf has left ny. [brogers] cyclops: let's discuss... not spi spout hatred. [brogers] afay: they are a desparate people. [aeoe] world war will not come for at least a few months, surely the borders will have opened up by then [ 11-Sep-01 18:06 ] zyla@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:06 ] engen@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] afay: they have been kicked out of their land with the help of and support of international coimmunity [shorty] cancda is the best place around @@ [aeoe] before they can draft us all to go bomb arabs [ 11-Sep-01 18:06 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [afay] ``It's an unbelievable disaster. It is touching our hearts. It is very difficult to explain my [afay] feelings. God help them, God help them,'' Arafat told reporters in Gaza. [engen] part [ 11-Sep-01 18:06 ] b00ji@sdf has left ny. [afay] Do you believe him? [ 11-Sep-01 18:06 ] torzillo@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:07 ] wse@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:07 ] aythos@sdf has joined ny. [wse] hey alky [brogers] afay: I believe him. Perhaps his people do not follow him as closely as you might think. [wse] This is the legacy of a Democratic President [wse] the lack of support he gives his National Security results in tradgities like this [torzillo] Hoefully the budget for intelligence will be increased [ 11-Sep-01 18:08 ] mcoms@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] I agree with brogers. [wse] It already has been [afay] brogers: I do too. [brogers] we can be certain the defense budget will increase [afay] But, I don't see the land as theirs. [wse] The CIA is already recieved mass amounts of tanks and jeeps from the former russian soviets [ 11-Sep-01 18:08 ] monteiro@sdf has joined ny. [torzillo] ThThey have the passenger manifest on all the planes - why can't they make a correllation? [brogers] afay: you don't have to agree with them, just understand their perspective. [monteiro] whatsr [monteiro] whats happen now [brogers] torzillo: I'm sure they're ding that now. [wse] There prespective is one of terror. [afay] brogers: well, if we're going to argue about land, we'l get nowhere. [ 11-Sep-01 18:09 ] smjalso@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] wse: that is not their perspective but their technique [monteiro] i'm in brazil [wse] True. [brogers] afay: true. [afay] I don't think there is a solution to that issue. I just had hoped it wouldn't affect us. [wse] I mean, lets face it, how many stories down is there in the Pentagon? [monteiro] q [wse] about four above, plus 15 or so down? [ 11-Sep-01 18:10 ] shorty@sdf has left ny. [brogers] monteirowhat did you last hear? [aeoe] how are things in brazil? [wse] British government is taking this seriously too [monteiro] in brazil the econic is bad, but no more [monteiro] economic [mcoms] no flights are taking off or landing here... (uk) [brogers] the stock market is down? [wse] Canary wharf is shut [brogers] in Brazil [smjalso] I can't imagien why [wse] all government agencies were on standby today [monteiro] teh news show images for ny [mcoms] bbc1 is locked on news24... [brogers] the news keeps showinfg the same things over and over again... [ 11-Sep-01 18:12 ] neil@sdf has joined ny. [torzillo] They closed the stock market. Good idea - otherwise there would be a mass sell off of stocks... [wse] attn: did you hear about the gunshots at the Pentagon before the plane hit? [brogers] no [wse] ummm ... anyone? [neil] not me [djm62] n [ 11-Sep-01 18:13 ] banoczky@sdf has joined ny. [monteiro] globonewss is an importnt news in brazil [wse] small artillery was opened up on the plane before it hit [wse] we presume to have stopped it or diverted it [aeoe] goddamn [wse] bearing in mind it only hit a corner [afay] I heard that the smoke can be seen by our astronauts in space. [brogers] fuck... I would hate to have been one of those artillery men [monteiro] they syas about [monteiro] sorry] [wse] Refer back to when the plane was shot down over MaryLand some time ago [wse] That was a 747 or 757 I think [celica] http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1537000/1537499.stm [smjalso] Just an FYI, if you tick SMJ off, even if you have paid for arpa, he will lock you out. He did ot (it) to thecolor [ 11-Sep-01 18:15 ] niknov@sdf has joined ny. [wse] very interesting smjalso [afay] I heard one journalist say that the two towers collapsed by a bomb (in her opinion) because of the way that the they fell upon themselves, instead of toppling. Agree? disagree? [phm] uhm [smjalso] makes it not worth paying for arpa. [mcoms] really? [wse] Pete! [phm] hello [wse] Bombs theory is bogyus [djm62] smjalso- I'm sure if he apologises he'll be back on [celica] i heard there were bombs too [smjalso] Apparently he has several times. [wse] Remember when in the past there were press blackouts in the events of diasters? [wse] in london, power was dropped across the city [brogers] afay: disagree... internal structure probly weeke weakened by large amounts of burning fuel [djm62] we have a blackout [ 11-Sep-01 18:16 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [wse] Media blackout [smjalso] Makes it not worth paying for arpa. [djm62] no mention of the last plane [wse] stops the roumours spreading [aeoe] smjalso: err, is this related to new york city? [ 11-Sep-01 18:16 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [wse] Brian Loss is probably running around shitting his pants [smjalso] related to where it came from. [wse] (NB: he lives in PA) [aeoe] ? [smjalso] (started in this room) [lpareal] Hi all! [aeoe] who is brian loss [aeoe] smjalso: oh [wse] Cheifton of h14me [ 11-Sep-01 18:17 ] banoczky@sdf has left ny. [monteiro] logoff [ 11-Sep-01 18:17 ] wse@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] Hey guys... does this romm has something related to the accident in ny today? [ 11-Sep-01 18:17 ] geffy@sdf has joined ny. [niknov] it shou[14~[13~ld [smjalso] yup [djm62] we haven't heard about it... [dvnt] that wasnt an accident.. [ 11-Sep-01 18:18 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] smjalso: smj did what he said he would do in his Acceptable Use Policy" [dvnt] if your referring the terrorism.. [lpareal] sorry... i mean... the terrorist attack! [smjalso] Nice that he does it to one and not everyone. [phm] smj was harsh [smjalso] seems fare. [afay] dvnt: LOL! [brogers] lpareal: not an accident [ 11-Sep-01 18:18 ] wse@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:18 ] vivo@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] lag [brogers] sorry [lpareal] What do ya think about what happened today? [phm] surreal [wse] A triumph for the new administratoipn [brogers] guys, if you want to talk about color being booted then please go to another room [nociasso] today is world peace day and the date is 9/11 [aeoe] smjalso: if you have a log, why dont you post it up and get a petition or something, let it out instead of hearsay [mcoms] not good... [k0deman] lpareal: tradgidy! [wse] Fantastic [niknov] its a shame interesting what's going to be on streets [smjalso] not hearsay, but I understand. [afay] I have a feeling our way of life is about to change. After something like this, anything could happen at any time. [lpareal] When i have heard about it [dvnt] surreal is a good word, who would have expected this when you woke up? [phm] use 'review' for com log [afay] review 30 [wse] Should get a statement from Lord Robertson soon [phm] ':review' [dvnt] getting ready for work like usual.. [phm] sorry [lpareal] iïm feeling much scared about it... [wse] I was at work [niknov] when we had a series of act in moscow many innocent cacosian like people were killed and foght to death on the streets :( [djm62] who lord R? [wse] we had a server down [jordi] OAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOBOB:review [geffy] logoff [wse] Lord robertson is head Sec of NATO [aeoe] review [phm] with ::: [djm62] oh! [monteiro] logoff [aeoe] /whois niknov [monteiro] quit [djm62] my friends uncle... [aeoe] oops [monteiro] q [aeoe] not irc [smjalso] type ":quit" if you want to leave [phm] argh ':QUIT' with ::::: [neil] herhe [niknov] aeoe : guy from moscow [ 11-Sep-01 18:21 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:21 ] geffy@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:21 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [monteiro] quit:quit [wse] ALL THOES IN US TYPE 111 ALL THOES IN OTHER COUNTRY TYPE 222 [lpareal] Here in Brazil, the police have evacuated [aeoe] inknov when was that? that sucks [afay] ADM in Decatour IL has decided to close the plant at 2pm today. Anyone else getting off work early? [smj] 111 [ 11-Sep-01 18:21 ] geffy@sdf has joined ny. [phm] motd sucks! [aeoe] 111 [djm62] 222 [lpareal] the US embassy. [mcoms] 222 [dvnt] 111 [wse] 222 [neil] 222 [ 11-Sep-01 18:21 ] monteiro@sdf has left ny. [brogers] 111 [nociasso] 111 [aythos] 222 [afay] 111 [smjalso] what is with the #'s? [k0deman] yeah? [niknov] aeoe: aboiut a year ago now [wse] number of times we have shagged your mother [brogers] if you're in US [smjalso] shortt trup home smj. [wse] anyway [ 11-Sep-01 18:22 ] vivo@sdf has left ny. [djm62] also: you're out of your element! [dvnt] lol.. [smjalso] funny. :) [smj] I live 3 blocks from work. [wse] sorry dude :) coultnd resist it [smjalso] ahh [niknov] 222 [lpareal] Sounds similar to a film... scary!! [smjalso] No big, no offense eaisly. [ 11-Sep-01 18:22 ] b00ji@sdf has joined ny. [neil] say like a clancy novel [djm62] smj- where are you? [smjalso] home [djm62] I thought NY... [wse] smj, whereshould we start a room called "pa" and "DC" as well?? [smjalso] that's what he said [brogers] neil: I noticed that too... Debt Of Honor wasn't it? [lpareal] What will the US government will do? [smjalso] type goto dc [wse] Bomb them [smjalso] with quotes [nociasso] the date is 9/11 [neil] I donno, never read it but its like his style [ 11-Sep-01 18:23 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [wse] bomb them with quotes, ummm ok [niknov] wse: bomb who exactly? [aeoe] /whois lpareal [wse] Good qesution [lpareal] Qual o problema mermÆo? [aeoe] oops, goddamn this aint irc [lpareal] /whois aeoe [wse] VOTE: WHICH COUNTRY IS RESPONSIBLE? TYPE NOW! [brogers] this is not irc [wse] Israel [brogers] vote? what the hell? [lpareal] The US... [djm62] wse stop being daft [niknov] wse: why? [aeoe] wse: that is a stupid and irresponsible thing to ask [k0deman] fight bombs, with bombs? kill inocents for inocents? what would that say? [geffy] inside job.. [phm] USA [neil] Nort a country [wse] Simply to see who thought what, thats all [magnus] A COUNTRY being responsible? Oh stop it... [phm] haha [wse] Interesting to see a US opinion V an international one [neil] indep party [lpareal] I think that the responsible is ... Osama Bin Laden... [djm62] this isn't MTV [wse] OK then qiseass, who is then? [ 11-Sep-01 18:24 ] pa@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] what I say three times is truew. what I say three times is tue. what I say thee times is true. [wse] You know better? [wse] You know something we dont? [k0deman] lie in "swordfish".."they bomb one of ours, we bomd 10 of theres!!" [ 11-Sep-01 18:25 ] lpareal@sdf has left ny. [wse] You know something the British fuycking government doesnt know? [b00ji] the Democratic Front for the Liberation of [pa] Osama bin Laden warned of the attack [ 11-Sep-01 18:25 ] daymon@sdf has joined ny. [k0deman] lie = like [aeoe] wse: yes, wait and let people who know what they are doing figure it out [ 11-Sep-01 18:25 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [torzillo] I hope it wasn't an internal US attack - something like the Michigan Militia [wse] You know fucking nothing aeoe [b00ji] Palestine has claimed responsibilitythe DFLP has claimed responsibiilty [geffy] its a battle bertween the airline industry [ 11-Sep-01 18:25 ] nofrizal@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] I hope it was [wse] get your degree in history, then well chat [aeoe] wse: and save alot of arab americans alot of discrimination, violence, and hatred from rednecks [djm62] internal [b00ji] man this is the clunkiest interface ever [nofrizal] oic [djm62] I don't want this to go internatilonal [nofrizal] whay? [brogers] DFLP != Palestine [neil] this could satartt a war; that would be a Bad Thing [smjalso] what do you mean clunky? [djm62] neil: aye [wse] Are you sure it would be bad, Neil? [neil] yes [djm62] yes [pa] war is always bad [wse] We cannot let this stand [daymon] war is never good [niknov] well it can be likely an action of the internal departments or competitors to fight a market share / hava a good reason for AntiMissile Sys expansion or whatever [wse] relatiation is inevitable [b00ji] nevermind [pa] retaliation to who wse? [djm62] wse neccesary != good [wse] exactly [pa] You can't fight a way against unknown terrorists [neil] true [pa] way = war [djm62] I hope it's not neccesary [wse] Unknown people, pa [pa] no terrorists [wse] Terrorists are indeed ghosts, they come and go as they please. the USA even taught some to do it for gods sake [pa] if they destroyed a bunch of buildings I think it's safe to call them terrorists [b00ji] the BBC reports that the DFLP are claining responsiblity [djm62] "ghosts"? [neil] that thing that is important now is to find out why this occurred and prevent it from continuing [k0deman] well, i'd love to stay and chat, but i have to go, before someone figures out i don't attend the university of calgary (alberta, canada) :) hehe!! but mail me your interesting isights, anyone. k0deman@sdf.lonestar.org thanx, L8r [aeoe] niknov: hah, that is so cynical man [ 11-Sep-01 18:28 ] k0deman@sdf has left ny. [torzillo] The wors enemy is he who has nothing to lose [djm62] wse: leave the rhetoric [aeoe] bye kodeman [geffy] kofi ana is on the network news as I type this [wse] American was founded for freedom. As Richard Niuxon said of rivals such as Chambers and Hiss, the greatest threat is it being removed. [djm62] diplomacy matters less than world peace [geffy] ana=anan, the UN guy [niknov] aeoe: well its the pure logic, when you do not go with your feelings but try too analyze [daymon] this has beeen on swedeish TV for hours ... [b00ji] does anyone have an mpg of the video of the plane hitting the towers? [neil] that would be good [geffy] don't need it - I remember it too well [phm] errm [niknov] b00ji: does it exist, it was not shown on TV [wse] there is one on a ffew [b00ji] it was on Slashdot [b00ji] but is slashdotted. [torzillo] How do we know it wasn't the WTO protestors [ 11-Sep-01 18:30 ] smjalso@sdf has left ny for thecolor. [aeoe] torzillo: because they couldnt organize themselves very well [wse] Could it be the Canadians, aft er Bush pissed them off the other day?! [niknov] torzillo: the scale's too large [ 11-Sep-01 18:30 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [neil] they attacketd the pentagon, too [ 11-Sep-01 18:30 ] pa@sdf has left ny. [aeoe] torzillo: the other thing is, almost all of the WTO protestors are pacifists [djm62] torsillo: they could find their arses with both hands [torzillo] All it takes is enough people to hijack some planes - you could do it with 10 people [ 11-Sep-01 18:30 ] laze@sdf has left ny for lobby. [geffy] i still blame the commercial airline industry - American, United.. [wse] They had an inside man at Dulles and MA [neil] possibly [lpareal] How many planes did they catch? [geffy] lot of disgruntled people in the airline industry [wse] A sleeper [wse] 4 [ 11-Sep-01 18:31 ] banoczky@sdf has joined ny. [wse] well, 4 are down [lpareal] Here in Brazil, i heard about 8... [geffy] 2 out of boston, one out of dc, one out of newark [neil] this operation appears to me to have been carefully planned [djm62] lot of rumours [daymon] i must hav ebeen [lpareal] of course! [wse] Not that well planned [wse] Think about it [neil] We don't know what the goal was yet [ 11-Sep-01 18:32 ] jordi@sdf has left ny. [wse] Why not go for the WHouse, Camp David, Langley, Ft Meade ....... [lpareal] krycek? [neil] that is a good question [neil] We can learn a lot by what they chose as targets [brogers] they went for the body count [djm62] wse: they didn't need to [aeoe] wse: because there arent 50,000 civilians at camp david [ 11-Sep-01 18:33 ] magnus@sdf has left ny. [djm62] they got enough publicity [djm62] they made history [geffy] pic of a van at ground zero of WTC wityh the flashers still on.. [wse] They are stirking back not at the esablishement, but at the forces of milliatay, like P harbour [aeoe] god thats like my whole fucking home town getting wipe out [wse] Camp David is an example of many [lpareal] why do they have to kill civilians...? [brogers] also WTD reperesents capitalism and pentagon our milityary...symbolic targets [neil] exactly [wse] like brogers said [geffy] some gulf war vertt once had a name for it: collateral damage [ 11-Sep-01 18:34 ] jordi@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] brogers: Yes!! Youre right! [wse] Heck, it could be the vietnamese for all we know [djm62] lmfao [wse] =) [ 11-Sep-01 18:34 ] meamcool@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] wse: ??? [ 11-Sep-01 18:34 ] jordi@sdf has left ny. [aeoe] i think you did it wse [wse] never mind [lpareal] why vietnamese? [brogers] gotta go [aeoe] from how much you point fingers [brogers] bye [ 11-Sep-01 18:34 ] banoczky@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] see ya! [ 11-Sep-01 18:34 ] geffy@sdf has left ny. [wse] Henry Kissinger was always concious of forces rising from the meast in the future [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] brogers@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] afay has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] dermo345 has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] engen has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] hegroep has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] james1 has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] kd5lct has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] the1 has left ny. [daymon] ? [neil] off to look for more info [lpareal] celica! [wse] mass exidus! [b00ji] fiber cut! [phm] g.d [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] neil@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] wse@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] Well guys... letïs wait for the World War Three! [aeoe] if bin laden did do it (which nobody has an idea of), you realize he was trained by the CIA to fuight communism in afghanistan during the cold war [djm62] bloddy hell [ 11-Sep-01 18:35 ] wse@sdf has joined ny. [smj] But he warned about it. [lpareal] aeoe: is it true? [wse] yes it is [wse] same as bay of pigs [lpareal] Damn! [djm62] smj: was that jet definitely shot down? [lpareal] Our economy is getting a collapse [lpareal] What jet? [djm62] LSE was down last night too [aeoe] god fucking damnit i .. cant believe all those people are dead, i know someone who works ther ,fucking bullshit bullshit bullshit [ 11-Sep-01 13:37 ] aeoe@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] All exchange shops in Brazil have stopped exchanging dollars. [lpareal] The dollar rate with Real is reaching R$ 2,80 - 2,8 times more! [ 11-Sep-01 18:38 ] djm62@sdf has left ny for thecolor. [ 11-Sep-01 18:39 ] nofrizal@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:39 ] niknov@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:39 ] jmax@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:39 ] jmax@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] I think that what happened today in Us itïs a kind of a punishment... [smj] who is being punished? [ 11-Sep-01 18:40 ] thephinn@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] Who cares smj? [ 11-Sep-01 18:40 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] phinn [ 11-Sep-01 18:41 ] jorgpena@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] The US government is always posing as some kind of a Woldwide Sheriff... Discriminating everyone... Then... [ 11-Sep-01 18:41 ] perogiex@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] yep? [djm62] just nodding hello [ 11-Sep-01 18:41 ] gozilla@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] oh, hey [djm62] seen you on ph.uk [thephinn] Britzin is wooried about attacks here now [celica] hey lpareal, i have never posedas a world dheriff.... nethier has any of the people in the WTC [djm62] in case you didn't guess [mcoms] Channel 4: Oh Jon, Ooooh Jon... (strange man) [thephinn] oh right, cool :-) [celica] eeh. [nociasso] eef [lpareal] I understand you, celica... i talking about the US politics... [ 11-Sep-01 18:43 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [b00ji] [B[Byeah and Brazil has no ties with the US. [thephinn] The WTC is a symbol of the US led world [smj] WOW! [smj] the dollar is really devauling! [mcoms] all news channels are talking about the same thing at the same time... i.e. now they're all talking about passport control... [lpareal] iïm really sorry about all their lives on WTC. [smj] devauling. [celica] you know what it really is.... jealousy [djm62] fscked up, celebrating in palestine [b00ji] wrong, the WTC is a symbol of the Capitalist world [djm62] WTC != capitalism [lpareal] Itïs similar as the Oklahoma massacre. [thephinn] a Capaitalist world led by the US [celica] shit blows up all the time where they live, but not in america... they have to bring their crapy way of life here [smj] Led by coprorations, guhs. [smj] guys. [b00ji] what does "led" mean? [phm] SDF [smj] the US government has no pwer over corporations. [thephinn] hey, shit blows up here too [celica] everyday?! [b00ji] corps run the world, not governments anymore [ 11-Sep-01 18:45 ] celsojr has left ny. [djm62] this makes ira look small [ 11-Sep-01 18:45 ] perogiex has left ny. [lpareal] Just for this reason iïm planning to live in Antartida... [smj] anartica? [torzillo] There is no such thing a s a government that isn't capitalist [lpareal] just kidding brrrr.... [thephinn] the US is the leader of the free world and the biggest financial power in the worl.d [djm62] *antarctica [lpareal] Just for it is that they have been attacked! [b00ji] yeah there is: USSR, not capitalist [djm62] lmfao [thephinn] it is now [torzillo] Communism is just capitalism for the government - [djm62] ?!?!? [thephinn] for the blast ten years, where u been? :-) [ 11-Sep-01 18:46 ] petepete@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] Capitalism = Angel? [lpareal] Comunism = Devil? [thephinn] brb [lpareal] Who is the winner? [djm62] if you define communism as capitalism, everywhere is capitalist [torzillo] There is nothing wrong with capitalism [lpareal] Thousands of people dead... [b00ji] Capitalism is not a form of government. [torzillo] Communism is a hipocrisy [djm62] there are inherent emergent properties of the free market economy... [lpareal] Who wants to play as God? [b00ji] Representive Democracy, Direct Democracy, these are forms of government [djm62] which produce undesirable effects [b00ji] Civics 101 [lpareal] nobody thinks as the same way... [ 11-Sep-01 18:47 ] petepete@sdf has left ny. [djm62] can prove it [ 11-Sep-01 18:48 ] jantzgu@sdf has joined ny. [gozilla] qq [phm] some people appear not to know how to think [lpareal] smj, can we talk? [djm62] *some*? [phm] most then [ 11-Sep-01 18:48 ] dicon@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:48 ] warakiya@sdf has joined ny. [jantzgu] hello:HELPP [lpareal] tou too? [lpareal] ypu [warakiya] what's up [ 11-Sep-01 18:49 ] wm@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] you too? [phm] no [djm62] *everyone* [lpareal] send smj [ 11-Sep-01 18:49 ] wm@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] this is some crazy ass shit [dicon] q [dicon] /q [lpareal] smj [warakiya] how do i know what i'm typing anyway? [djm62] people are idiots, only an idiot would dispute it [nociasso] type :ECHO [ 11-Sep-01 18:50 ] gozilla has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:50 ] thephinn has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:50 ] wse has left ny. [phm] i worry for them [nociasso] i need information sources. [nociasso] links please [djm62] yes you do [b00ji] links for what [ 11-Sep-01 18:50 ] bc@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:50 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] phm: this is a good time to give up on humanity [bc] noc- slashdot is a good source actually [phm] i didnt do that. not as such [jantzgu] I'm from finland and in here this attack to WTC is a big news [smj] there could be a mass sucide because of this. [b00ji] http://drudgereport.com/ [djm62] you should [bc] i wanna move to canada [phm] some humans are very smart. the system favours them [djm62] mass suicide? [lpareal] i wanna move to antarctica [ 11-Sep-01 18:51 ] thephinn@sdf has joined ny. [smj] Yes.. people freak out in crisis. [warakiya] (CNSNews.com) - President George W. Bush was whisked to a Louisiana Air Force base from Sarasota, Florida, Tuesday, and said the United States will hunt down those responsible for the attacks against the World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon near Washington, D.C. [lpareal] brrr... ;-D [jantzgu] Finland is close to antarctic :-) [lpareal] hunt who? hahahahahahaha [djm62] some people are intelligent [warakiya] no it's not [warakiya] finland is north not south :P [b00ji] Finland is a bit North of Antarctica ;) [thephinn] lol [lpareal] they still didnït reach who ordered this attack! [thephinn] only a coule of 100 miles [warakiya] i bet i know who did it [lpareal] rotfl! [thephinn] 1000 even [ 11-Sep-01 18:52 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 18:52 ] wtfpunk@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] CANADA [bc] ugh [bc] /help [bc] er [bc] heh [warakiya] blame canada! [wtfpunk] sup ppl [jantzgu] Yes, but this is also far away from every other plaec in the rest of the world [lpareal] we cannot do anything, but wait and see the news. [warakiya] europe is safe [jantzgu] But close to Russia [thephinn] Yeah, the Canadians did it [thephinn] Europe is not safe [warakiya] hell anyplace cold is usually safe [smj] As well, the rumor is that the pilot of United Flight 193 flew it in into the ground, outside Pittsburgh, rather then fly into the USX building, which if true, makes him a better person then [ 11-Sep-01 18:53 ] wtfpunk@sdf has left ny. [lpareal] I think that if i go to Antarctica there will no penguins trying to kill me with a 767 airbus... [thephinn] Being seen as the lapdogs of the US isn't gonna to be helpful [warakiya] windows telnet sux [djm62] yep [thephinn] yep [phm] he was going to die anyway [djm62] but still we follow [lpareal] iïd rather using linux telnet... [thephinn] annoting isn't it? [warakiya] all i know [torzillo] Use SSH [thephinn] annoying even [warakiya] is that i'm buying a gun [smj] http://ws1.umgllc.net/~shane/attack/willfe/wtc_divx.avi [ 11-Sep-01 18:55 ] mcoms has left ny. [bc] QUIT [thephinn] yeah, agun is gonna help gainst a passenger jet :-S [bc] ok, ben is stupid [bc] how does com work [warakiya] a triple minigun might [b00ji] link is /. [djm62] ":quit" [bc] oh... :command [lpareal] buy a match or a spoon against a jet... DDD [meamcool] /qtgq:help [warakiya] uhh, how about a big board with a nail in it? [ 11-Sep-01 18:55 ] bc@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] smj what's that url again [djm62] lighters [smj] http://mail1.ats.rochester.edu/~mp003k/terrorism.html [djm62] matches [thephinn] http://ws1.umgllc.net/~shane/attack/willfe/wtc_divx.avi [ 11-Sep-01 18:56 ] bc@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] tnx, djm62! [ 11-Sep-01 18:56 ] meamcool@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] thx [lpareal] Thanks! [smj] this is terrible. [warakiya] http://www.cnsnews.com/ <--- best news source on the web [ 11-Sep-01 18:57 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [lpareal] www.putaquipariu.com.br [warakiya] we should all hack iraq or something [ 11-Sep-01 18:57 ] jeeves@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] lol, like that will hack [aythos] Some urls with pics etc (rather slow tho') [aythos] http://mambo.fiberio.net [aythos] http://mesmerism.net/wtc.html [bc] http://www.leighsmith.com/PhotoAlbum/TradeTowerAttack/index1.html [lpareal] Why do we try hackinïSaddam Husseinïs Ass [daymon] does iraq have internet ? [thephinn] hack?help even [b00ji] is anyone getting through to the DIVX site? [lpareal] oh yes! [daymon] not me [thephinn] server is busy on that DIVX link :-( [bc] iraq has a censored 'net, like brunei [bc] i think [lpareal] why? [thephinn] and China now [djm62] china does? [warakiya] peekabooty [lpareal] goddamn motherfuckin saddam! [thephinn] yep [dvnt] because they dont have as much freedom.. [djm62] feck [daymon] i dont think iraq [warakiya] no it's either osamah bin laden or saddam [bc] hmm, don't go pointing fingers [ 11-Sep-01 18:59 ] jantzgu@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] it ain't Hussien [ 11-Sep-01 18:59 ] piolin@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] or maybe quidaffi but i doubt that [warakiya] it's an arab [lpareal] I blame Casper, the Friendly Ghost! [celica] its not iraq [ 11-Sep-01 19:00 ] jorgpena has left ny. [warakiya] obviously [djm62] there's no point in terrorism unsless someone claims it [ 11-Sep-01 19:00 ] torzillo has left ny. [thephinn] a lot of peeps hate the US, could be anyone [smj] no point? [warakiya] they're not peeps [lpareal] Or i blame Seinfeld! [celica] they wouldnt do that to us, we buy oil from them [warakiya] like i said, blame canada [celica] iraq that is [lpareal] hhheeeee... [nociasso] bin laden [warakiya] Osamah Bin Laden did it [thephinn] lol, they went to war with us [celica] whats canada? [djm62] if they don't claim it , they don't help their cause [piolin] hi [smj] netbsd.org is mirror this! [warakiya] you don't want to know what canada is [djm62] in their mind [thephinn] like AMerica, just colder and boring [warakiya] what's there to bomb in canada [warakiya] trees? [dvnt] its not even a real country anyway.. lol [celica] yeah, i dont like the sound of it warakiya [ 11-Sep-01 19:01 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:01 ] extispex@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] hey there guys [warakiya] i live like 200 miles from canada [warakiya] it's not bad ther3e [thephinn] hey Akira [warakiya] kinda relazing actually [thephinn] see Tetsuo about recently? :-) [warakiya] all i know is that this is fucking crazy [ak1ra] saw the attack live.. was on tv about 2PM here in the UK [ak1ra] yeah phinn hes doing great ^_^ [dvnt] warakiya: tru, I used to gothere when I lived in seattle.. [thephinn] God bless the BBC [ 11-Sep-01 19:02 ] lpareal@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] smj you should put something on the site [ak1ra] couldnt believe my eyes when the buildings collapsed [djm62] jumps on news cos there's f*** all [warakiya] like a memorial or something [ 11-Sep-01 19:03 ] extispex@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:03 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] it just seems proper [thephinn] wasn't so much the buildings collapsing, just that plane flying iinto the building [lpareal] itïs terrible. [warakiya] not that plane, the 2 planes [djm62] the plane disappearing [djm62] inside the building? [piolin] sorry, how do i left the cnannel? [kd5lct] its so sad [thephinn] we only see one crashing though [ 11-Sep-01 19:03 ] stdio@sdf has left ny. [djm62] ":quit" [lpareal] What will happen next? [ak1ra] I hope that no other countries are attacked... [warakiya] one hit wtc 1, the other hit wtc 2, and the third hit the pentagon [celica] we should smashLebanon [ 11-Sep-01 19:03 ] piolin@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] WWIII probably [warakiya] hell yeah ww3 [ak1ra] its not lebanon foo' it's afghanistan [warakiya] bush has no choice [ 11-Sep-01 19:04 ] bc@sdf has left ny. [kd5lct] i hope not i'm on a alert [djm62] If you ess doesn't habdle it carefully [ak1ra] they treat people like shit there [thephinn] yes, I know that Warakiya, just there was only one being filmed as it do it [celica] in Lebanon they are cheering in the streets!!! [kd5lct] hfor ham radio races [warakiya] fuck lebanon they're just a bunch of third world idiots [lpareal] And shooting their ammo to the sky... [ak1ra] jihad is rediculous... [smj] jihad is redictulous.. [thephinn] Like the fuck, u know Warakiya [kd5lct] it is all lo [lpareal] Hey, i live in the trird world and iïm not an idiot! [lpareal] third [warakiya] well then i applaud you [ak1ra] well warakiya, i can understand anger at whats happened but that attitude from the US government is what got them attacked [kd5lct] itim [warakiya] not true [lpareal] I agree with you ak1ra [warakiya] it's because the us is the superpower [dvnt] no what got them attacked was a bunch of assholes [thephinn] If the US sticks its nose into everyones affairs, then it can expect it to be bloodied once in a while [warakiya] and obviously they want to stay that way [celica] I see the stock markets around the world are collapsing as well. This is not just a collateral attack but also an economic one. Oil and gold prices are increasing. So well done to Gordon Brown for selling all our gold to buy worthless euro currency... Blair hasn't got a clue what to do, is holding "meetings". Meanwhile aircraft are still flying over central London. The pair should resign immediately, due to their useless handling of this outrage. [celica] Stu Forster, England [warakiya] everyone hated rome, everyone hates the usa [lpareal] An if the US is the superpower... the economic leader... they want to attack them! [ak1ra] i cant ever ever justify whats happened but the us has been pushing buttons for the last 20 years and they just pushed the wrong one [smj] Yes, this is an attack on the world. [smj] its not just the US. [kd5lct] here is the story [kd5lct] Hijacked Planes Destroy Twin Towers, Burn Pentagon [thephinn] Yeah, good one Celica, what they suppose to do? [kd5lct] Photos [kd5lct] Reuters Photo [kd5lct] Slideshows [smj] the target just happened to be in the US. [kd5lct] AP Photo [kd5lct] Coordinated Terrorist Attack [kd5lct] Audio/Video [kd5lct] New Yorkers React To Disaster (Reuters) [kd5lct] American Airlines Confirms Two Plane Crashes (ABCNEWS.com) [kd5lct] By Alan Elsner, National Correspondent [dvnt] thats a pussy kind of attitude, you dont just keep your head down when something aint right [warakiya] this is an attack on democracy [kd5lct] NEW YORK/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three hijacked planes crashed into major U.S. landmarks on Tuesday, destroying New York's World Trade Center and plunging the Pentagon (news - web sites) in Washington into flames, in an unprecedented assault on key symbols of U.S. military and financial power. [warakiya] freedom, like bush said has been attacked [kd5lct] Loss of life was expected to be catastrophic from the collapse of the giant towers of the World Trade Center, where roughly 40,000 people work. The two 110-story towers collapsed one at a time in a huge cloud of smoke and fire two hours after the initial impacts. [kd5lct] Desperate people were seen jumping out of the burning towers before they collapsed. [kd5lct] President Bush (news - web sites), facing the first big test of his eight-month presidency, called the deliberate aerial assaults an ``apparent terrorist attack,'' and vowed to hunt down and punish those responsible. [kd5lct] Sen. Chuck Hagel (news - bio - voting record), a Nebraska Republican, called the attacks, ``this generation's Pearl Harbor.'' The European Union (news - web sites)'s External Relations Commissioner said the attacks constituted ''an act of war by madmen.'' [warakiya] stop pastin headlines [ak1ra] yes it's been on the news for the last 6 hours !!! [kd5lct] The attacks, the worst on the U.S. mainland in modern history, plunged the country into chaos and panic, paralyzing communications, forcing the evacuation of key buildings, closing markets, schools and even theme parks. Sirens screamed as terrified people rushed through the streets seeking safety. [kd5lct] BUSH WHISKED TO UNDISCLOSED LOCATION [warakiya] damnit stop [kd5lct] Even America's pastime could not escape. Major League Baseball canceled all 15 of Tuesday's scheduled games. The Walt Disney Co. temporarily shut its U.S. parks and began assessing global operations. [djm62] yes we had heard [thephinn] thi is much bigger than Pearl Harbour [ 11-Sep-01 19:07 ] butnip@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] yes it is [ 11-Sep-01 19:07 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] i would go to war [phm] (hi) [thephinn] with whom? [ak1ra] yeah pearl harbor wasnt even part of the the US [warakiya] but i want to know where i'm going first [ 11-Sep-01 19:08 ] kazoo@sdf has joined ny. [butnip] (hi) [ak1ra] just a protectorate [warakiya] blame canada [thephinn] Yeah, like u did in Vietnam, good one [kd5lct] so sad and sorry [ak1ra] I think war will be in the form of cruise missiles not land troops [kd5lct] no duh [warakiya] no matter where this would have happened it's sad and wrong and cowardly [djm62] as long as no nukes are involved [smj] "It is most likely the work of Islamic fundamentalists. Osama bin Laden warned three weeks ago that he would attack American interests in an unprecedented attack, a very big one," Atwan told Reuters [smj] jihad. [ak1ra] religion... [smj] its all about fucking god. [smj] well, not literally. [thephinn] The US should concentrate on why anyone would want to do this rather than finding someone to blow up [djm62] never about religion [phm] g.d [ak1ra] dunno 'bout you but it irritates the hell ouytta me %_^ [dvnt] smj: lol [kd5lct] there a pic on yahoo of whats left of the world thrad center [ 11-Sep-01 19:10 ] lpareal has left ny. [thephinn] its nothing to do with God [smj] Yes it is. [dvnt] yes it is [djm62] all about arms money and fanaticism [phm] human processing of god more like [smj] and god. [kd5lct] the link is http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010911/ts/mdf50593.html [thephinn] it has everthing to do with the US being World Busybody [dvnt] the fanaticism is about god [djm62] there is no god, and he's innocent [ak1ra] the war in the middle east is why the uwas attacked that war is about religion [thephinn] No it wasn't [djm62] war is about *land* [djm62] I'll just nod@ thephinn [ 11-Sep-01 19:11 ] b00ji@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] damnit ppl you don't understand [ak1ra] but religion has fanned the flames of that war... it's patently jew against muslim... [warakiya] this was just plain wrong [warakiya] it doesn't matter where it happened [djm62] just the easy way to split people into groups [dvnt] tru [thephinn] the reThe attack against the US was because it kept sticking its nose in where it wasn't wanted. [warakiya] the act was committed by faceless cowards [nociasso] the whole conflict concerns their religions [ak1ra] i dont agree with thta phinn [djm62] no! [warakiya] phinn where you from [nociasso] no conflict= no war [ 11-Sep-01 19:12 ] cyrion@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] UK [kazoo] religion plays a role on many wars unfortunately [ak1ra] the allies were perfectly justified in their war on iraq [warakiya] typical [djm62] don't blame religion [ak1ra] typical what??? [cyrion] help [warakiya] we beat your ass years ago and you guys are still pissed [djm62] religion is an excuse, not a reason [thephinn] why? u just wanna blow them all up, u don't care who [phm] blame humans. what will become od sdf,,,, [nociasso] no, i'm not blaming religion [djm62] should we put the difference in an faq [warakiya] sdf is innocent in all of this [nociasso] it is the people who have the conflict. [thephinn] Yeah, whatever Warakiya [ak1ra] no a bunch of farmers allong with some french and spanish beat us... [warakiya] SDF WILL OVERCOME [thephinn] lol [warakiya] sdf needs a weapons stockpile [ 11-Sep-01 19:14 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] sorry for not having the ability to crush a rebellion while fighting a superpower war with 4 other european neighbours... and winning [djm62] gunFTP [phm] lets train in hunt [warakiya] yes sdf needs some hydrogen bombs, transferrable through a phone line [thephinn] SDF should declare itself an independant world power :-) [ak1ra] nukes suck [djm62] for the record, I think america will learn the some thing th English are [phm] SDF -- worse than chaos [thephinn] whats that exactly? [warakiya] us and uk are allies, so... [kd5lct] why dont we nuke the govermets computers [djm62] empire-building is not sustainable [warakiya] kd are you just stupid [kd5lct] ??? [warakiya] or that ignorant [kd5lct] no and yes [thephinn] true [cyrion] I think America had learned that it has been far to complacent in dealing with terrorists [ 11-Sep-01 19:15 ] butnip@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] but we gave ours away willing [djm62] phinn: true@me? [warakiya] no, america needs to go all out or not at all [thephinn] indeed [warakiya] not this inbetween crap [kd5lct] goto [dvnt] gee [cyrion] I agree...Salt the earth and eradicate those who who attack us in such a dishonorable manner [warakiya] we need to kick some major ass and kill lotsa people so everyone is like whoa we're not gonna mess with them of just back off completely [smj] yeh thats whats going to happen. [djm62] for fuck sake... [thephinn] yeah, like that will work [warakiya] one or the other not inbetween [smj] I'm sure it will happen. [smj] GWB is going to be pressured to do so. [smj] and he will. [djm62] 51c tr4n517 g10r14 mund1 [smj] the military here is already mkobolised. [thephinn] The US will just have to learn to think rather than shoot [warakiya] it's either we're going to war, or we're going to war [ak1ra] he would anyway the redneck hick... [ 11-Sep-01 19:17 ] perogiex@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] so i think we're going to war [thephinn] Who do u r u going 2 war against? [ak1ra] who against? the whole arab world? [djm62] warakiya: you'll be disappointed if you don't [warakiya] the president really has little power [thephinn] cept to nuke us all [dvnt] he will be pressured I agree, but even so, its national policy to not tolerate the actions of terrorists. if he cant do hisjob he should give it to someone who can [ak1ra] yeah.. anyone seen doctor strangelove? [warakiya] it's the congress that has the power [smj] wholey shit.. this one is going on someone's album cover.. and I'll hate that band: [smj] http://www.usnews.com/usnews/graphics/homepage/tradecenter3.jpg [phm] the galactic empire is dying [warakiya] the us could take the arab world... no problem [thephinn] Bush till has the executive power of war and peace [warakiya] they're poor and weak and cowardly and unorganized [ 11-Sep-01 19:19 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] lmfao [thephinn] Warakiya, u r a fool [ak1ra] they could but then they would just be confirming that they are the bullies of thw world not guardians of freedom [ 11-Sep-01 19:19 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:19 ] strkr@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] you're tell ing me they could organize themselves [ 11-Sep-01 19:19 ] lukas@sdf has joined ny. [cyrion] Had they limited themselves to military targets, I would feel differently, but attacking innocent civilians irequires disproportionate response in my opinion [kd5lct] who nuchked me [warakiya] all the different religions islamic sects [ 11-Sep-01 19:20 ] feeder@sdf has joined ny. [smj] well, now the photo is different. [warakiya] they hate eachother and everyone else [warakiya] think about it [thephinn] they managed to blow up the WTC and the Pentagon, so yes [djm62] warakiya: don't set yourself as US spokesaman [feeder] quit [warakiya] yeah by hijacking planes! [djm62] it has enough of an image problem [thephinn] Warakiay, do u even know where the Middle East is? [warakiya] that can't happen again [lukas] / [cyrion] Why can't it happen again? [ak1ra] i bet you enjoy shooting guns and lynching black people as well... [warakiya] muslims aren't just in the middle east [thephinn] I pray that Mr. Warakiya isn't a representive of the rest of the US else we r all gonna die [warakiya] black people are fine [smj] yeh unfortunately muslims/christians are world wide. [strkr] quit [ak1ra] and bhuddists! [warakiya] heh a religious war would be simple [ 11-Sep-01 19:22 ] strkr@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:22 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [warakiya] this is anything but [thephinn] wtf, why is a bad thing? [ak1ra] it's all gotta go before we get world utopia IMO [djm62] bhuddist terrorists are a rising force [ak1ra] lol [warakiya] that's like an oxymoron [phm] zen hacking [thephinn] no shit [warakiya] buddhists are supposed to be peaceful [thephinn] I gathered that [djm62] never mind... [starbuck] should I get my war gear ready ;) [warakiya] muslims go to heaven if they die fighting a religious battle [smj] you know zen is just a misproudnciation of a chinese word that is a misprounciation of a sanskrit word? [warakiya] that's why they commit these acts [ak1ra] yeah but they are all spiritual and stuff... they are deluding themselves as much as the muslims and christians [ 11-Sep-01 19:23 ] cyrion@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] out of religious beliefs [ 11-Sep-01 19:23 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [phm] like 42 i expect [thephinn] Do you even know any Muslims? [jeeves] the word is dhytan [warakiya] yes thank you [starbuck] phm I knnow the meaning of 42 !! [ak1ra] in th eUK there are loads of muslims... [jeeves] sorry, dhyan [warakiya] and i have nothing against themn [smj] Here is what the US will do: [phm] oh ? really? [smj] 1. deport all foreign nationsals [smj] 2. revote all visas [djm62] starbuck: are you getting war gear ready? [dvnt] the only tru hacker is knowing that you are not a hacker.. [thephinn] Well, u seem to know shit about them [smj] 3. bomb the hell out of the middle east. [warakiya] i have something against these fuckers who killed a bunch of people that i am citizens with [thephinn] u just wanna nuke them all, good plan [ak1ra] oh man i was wanting to go to FL next year ^_^ [smj] 4. destroy the moon. [starbuck] djm62 no I was joking [kd5lct] nysmj you are going to far [ 11-Sep-01 19:24 ] jsandven@sdf has joined ny. [smj] I'd hate to be muslim rigth now. [djm62] just in case- are you eligibe to? [thephinn] Why? [warakiya] i wish i was a saiyan [ak1ra] my mum is US navy... she had better not get killed or bush wont be breathing much longer... [thephinn] Just the same of Waco and being a Christian [ 11-Sep-01 19:25 ] feeder has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:25 ] lukas has left ny. [ak1ra] oh great a DB fan... [warakiya] i'd just fly my ass over there and shoot a big fireball [starbuck] is there been new target of bombing or whatso ever ? [thephinn] They are extremists, not the majority [ 11-Sep-01 19:25 ] aletheia@sdf has joined ny. [phm] the moon is nice [ 11-Sep-01 19:25 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [warakiya] muslims, christians, buddhists, hindus, satanists, daoists, are all fine [ak1ra] yeah is hread the golfing is good there ^_^ [warakiya] i hate extremists [djm62] nuke all extremists [ak1ra] agreed extremists have no place in a democratic society [warakiya] i'm out guys [thephinn] I don't hate anyone, else they do something shitty [djm62] and their families [ 11-Sep-01 19:26 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] bye billy bo [warakiya] yay for whoever shoots these fuckers [starbuck] by killing them you make yourself an extremist also ;) [ 11-Sep-01 19:26 ] perogiex@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] keep shootign varmints and listening to country and western [djm62] starbuck: always gets me... [djm62] ;> [warakiya] country sux [ak1ra] enjoy your mullet ^_^ [thephinn] lol @ Akira [warakiya] as do mullets lol [dvnt] extremeist is not necessarily synonymous with terrorist [warakiya] ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO SDF [starbuck] if they hit canada they better get ready for some real trouble [ 11-Sep-01 19:27 ] djfloyd@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Warakiya, thought u were leaving 2 go and shoot up some Muslims? [kd5lct] ALL NE [phm] i we sdf [ak1ra] oh conservative american streo types... [warakiya] phinn i sense you have something against me [thephinn] just a bit [kd5lct] ALL NEWSE WEB SITES IN THE US ARE FLUDED [djm62] @sdf is my other surname [ 11-Sep-01 19:28 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] yup a regular hounddawg [warakiya] when you have no reason to. i don't hate anyone unless they give me a reason to, like killing 30,000 people [ak1ra] oh ma daaarlin! [djfloyd] ababcnews.com was having propblems I finally got a stream in ffrom abcnews.com [djfloyd] tblah [djfloyd] whoops [djfloyd] I finally got a stream from abcnews.com [thephinn] Then hate the terrorists, not the whole of the MIddle East, u cretin [djm62] war: you're flying off the handle with bugger all information [warakiya] abc sucks [ak1ra] just turn on the TV its quicker... [ 11-Sep-01 19:29 ] aythos@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] phinn: tru [kd5lct] no duh [ 11-Sep-01 19:29 ] kazoo@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:30 ] aletheia has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 15:30 ] jason@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] the only thing I know is that we are heading in a new kind of war [ 11-Sep-01 19:30 ] vos@sdf has joined ny. [djfloyd] I pray not [warakiya] http://www.cnsnews.com/ <--- fast news and accurate [kd5lct] no duh [ 11-Sep-01 19:30 ] strkr@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Have been for the last 30 years [djm62] no one has claimed responsibility, and you've already decided to kill everyone [smj] Well, its time for war. [warakiya] smj knows what's up [thephinn] smj, aganist whom? [ak1ra] hell everyone has been phoning in claims [djfloyd] who here has to fight ina war if we have one? [warakiya] phinn: we'll know soon won't we [starbuck] I mean even the intelligence had absolutly NO fucking clue [ 11-Sep-01 19:31 ] bronhim@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] wtf, u don't even know who u fighting [kd5lct] true [smj] ABCnews calls it 'kamikaze' .. I didn't know the mulsims were shinto!? [warakiya] i'll have to go if there is a war [djm62] hard to believe [thephinn] its a bunch of terrorists, not a nation [ak1ra] true starbuck... all this big brother stuff turned out to be nonsense [starbuck] I have to fight if there is a war not as infantry though [laze] we cant fight a war against a terrorist organization [ 11-Sep-01 19:31 ] niknov@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:31 ] qc@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] you couild [dvnt] if intel did have a clue, they most likely would not jsut inform everyone in the general public right off the bat.. [smj] binladen said he would do it. [thephinn] ture @ dvnt [djfloyd] who said the gov didn't now [ 11-Sep-01 19:32 ] manifest@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:32 ] zerop@sdf has joined ny. [djfloyd] they say our gov newknew about Perl Harbor [manifest] echo [thephinn] Bin laden has denied any connection [djfloyd] and did nothing [smj] of course [manifest] oops, hehe [smj] he would. [ak1ra] if you randomly bomb the muslims (who the hell knows if it was them anyway) then you will just get attacked again, and mabye even gfet us attacked too... [manifest] Sup? [djm62] yasser arafat seemed sincere [warakiya] i have to go my girlfriend is whining AGAIN [thephinn] The British warned the US about Pearl Harbour and i [phm] this is the most exciting time in human hostory. great [ 11-Sep-01 19:32 ] djfloyd@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:32 ] manifest@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] give her a good seeing to wara... [laze] I think this country should reassess its policies against assassination, though [qc] what do you think about vicente fox [warakiya] i just want to log onto sdf, check my mail, [dvnt] bin ladens defense is that he doesnt have the resources. any real commander of anything will not let their entire resources ever be known. [warakiya] and live my life [starbuck] phm it will be exciting for me ;) I think ill have plenty of stuff to do after training [warakiya] but now i have to go to war. great. [thephinn] Bin Laden got stacks of resources [phm] what if im studying history? [vos] // [qc] hi all [warakiya] bin laden is one of the most powerful men in the world [phm] chances are i am [ak1ra] starbuck who do you work for? [warakiya] don't underestimate him [dvnt] of course he does, but he has everyone else belieiving that he doesnt. [starbuck] phm try to realy the past to what is happening right now [ 11-Sep-01 19:34 ] arcanum@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Though I doubt he would be stupid enough to do this [arcanum] lo [warakiya] cya all later, and phinn sorry if i pissed you off but i'm obviously aggrivated right now [arcanum] /me is betting on oslama bin laden [phm] this happened 2000 years ago [djm62] jI don't think this was stupid [zerop] who [ 11-Sep-01 19:34 ] strkr@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] k man, just don't go randomly blaming people [qc] by [qc] logout [warakiya] cya all l8r [thephinn] laters [djm62] Cya [qc] HELP [phm] the galactic empire is dying [ak1ra] bye [ 11-Sep-01 19:35 ] daymon has left ny. [warakiya] http://www.cnsnews.com/ <-- keep yourself updated there [djm62] qc":help" [ak1ra] what is the galactic empire??????? [ 11-Sep-01 19:35 ] warakiya@sdf has left ny. [niknov] huh its interesting if he's so wealthy how did they not tracked him down yet he has to have something: thick bank account a stack of gold plates whatever, he cnnot hide his welath in the 5th dimension, your opinion [qc] who warakiya [starbuck] ak1ra http://209.82.43.54/html/careers/career_profiles/comm_rese.html [thephinn] somebody put QC outta their misery :-) [qc] WHO warakiya [thephinn] The US I think he means [phm] NO [qc] QUIT [phm] duh [qc] quit [djm62] qc ":who" [ 11-Sep-01 19:35 ] qc@sdf has left ny. [djm62] ":quit" [ak1ra] canada [phm] wow he quit with who [djm62] fast learner.... [thephinn] either that or Wales [ak1ra] la defense nationale!!! [zerop] hi all [thephinn] "Land of my fathres... [starbuck] ak1ra you are french also ? [kd5lct] sad :( [ak1ra] vive la france! danananananana [ak1ra] no im from britain [djm62] intel should check for leeks [starbuck] ok [ak1ra] scotland to be exact [thephinn] Oui, c'est le bon homme de Fracais [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] nutts@sdf has joined ny. [zerop] hi all i'm italian and the history of ny it's allucinant [starbuck] cool :) [phm] intel make macrochips? [djm62] ak1ra where? [kd5lct] sad a bout it :( [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] Inverness [thephinn] lol, been there [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] daymon@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] <--- Glasgow (East Kilbride) [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny for lobby. [djm62] never seen inverness [ak1ra] cool, do they have the internet there ^_* [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] niknov@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] joke [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] shanghi@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] damn, loads of Scots here, anyone else? [ 11-Sep-01 19:37 ] zerop@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:38 ] sugardad@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:38 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] where u phinn [starbuck] well my family is sct;) [unpluged] hey [kd5lct] U.S.A [unpluged] sup [thephinn] Oxford [unpluged] hey smj [ak1ra] ach were all from the same country phinn [ 11-Sep-01 19:38 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [unpluged] give me that number ill call them if not i wait till hackcide gets home and get it forom him [thephinn] hehe, lets take SDF for Queen and Country [djm62] I wonder if sdf is one of those places where you meet everyone [unpluged] but i am gonna call them [djm62] eventually [ 11-Sep-01 19:38 ] tchotcho@sdf has joined ny. [unpluged] heh [ak1ra] hey britannic majesty requests and requires that SDF be singed over !!! [thephinn] nah, just Scots :-) [phm] bit like 2001 [thephinn] "Land of hope and glory..." [ak1ra] starbuck she's ure queen too ^_* [starbuck] ak1ra yeah I know [thephinn] lol [starbuck] I dont really care though [sugardad] i dont like being bombed :( [thephinn] join uss! [ 11-Sep-01 19:40 ] bronhim has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:40 ] nutts has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:40 ] arcanum@sdf has left ny. [kd5lct] no duh [sugardad] yeah [kd5lct] any one from n.y.c ? [thephinn] Back on topic... still can't believe they managed tit [thephinn] it even [ 11-Sep-01 19:41 ] zerop@sdf has joined ny. [kd5lct] no i cant [ak1ra] starbuck: no one here think s that canada should be ruled by the uk it's just a silly formality... [starbuck] kd5lct there is notthing going in oor out of NY [ 11-Sep-01 19:41 ] strkr@sdf has joined ny. [zerop] hi all [thephinn] though the Queen is still Candian head of state [starbuck] ak1ra yeah I guess maybe she just like to see her face on our bill [thephinn] along with the rest of the Commonwealth [ak1ra] the queen has bugger all power here let alone canada [zerop] e' incredibile quello che e' successo a ny [ 11-Sep-01 19:42 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:42 ] strkr@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] she does have power, just doesn't use it [ak1ra] orf with there heads ^_^ [zerop] e' davvero allucinante quello che e' successo [starbuck] is there been other target out of trade center ponatagon ?? [thephinn] not quite [ 11-Sep-01 19:42 ] daymon@sdf has left ny. [phm] pontagon [ak1ra] they should attack all the american brewereies american beer is waaay bad... [djm62] god aye [zerop] bin laden e' un uomo molto potente [dvnt] hey, its not that bad.. [thephinn] i reckon that the plane that crashed in Pittsburgh was heading for the White House [ak1ra] they should leave the trade center alone ^_^ [starbuck] there as been rumors about bomb in the canadian parliment [ak1ra] phinn: me too [ 11-Sep-01 19:43 ] ikzelf@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] (the beer) [djm62] is there really no comms in or out of NY [zerop] cambiera' sicuramenten quelocosa [starbuck] absolutly no coomm [thephinn] I'm soure they is [thephinn] sure even [djm62] why? [starbuck] out of radio [ak1ra] agred, but european beer is damn fine... [thephinn] why wouldn't they be? [dvnt] agreed [djm62] how can they take out all telephone exchanges [dvnt] lol [zerop] e' incredibile [kd5lct] nuemp [kd5lct] emp [thephinn] Phinn reachers for Fosters Ice [starbuck] djm62 its all controlled by computer click on one button and shut the hell down [ 11-Sep-01 19:44 ] zerop@sdf has left ny. [kd5lct] elemp the us and the [dvnt] The Most powerful mess in the U.S.A history occurred with out use of F16 [dvnt] nor Missals, nor Nuclear Bombs, [dvnt] It is the Day that All oppressed around the world know that the real power [dvnt] is not in massive destruction weapons. [djm62] I've heard of these computers... [ak1ra] carlsberg and absolut vodka are the only things scandanavia is good for [thephinn] Its in beer? [dvnt] could be! [starbuck] canadian beer ;) [thephinn] Hurray! [dvnt] haha! [ak1ra] canadian is good... [dvnt] Castle is pretty good too, its south african.. [thephinn] lol [ak1ra] guinness makes me feel ill [ 11-Sep-01 19:46 ] hub@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] it;s good at the time but it gets back at you [ 11-Sep-01 19:46 ] freed@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Isn't the tagline, Guiness is good 4 u? [djm62] guinness is good for you! [ 11-Sep-01 19:46 ] sjhs@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] lol [djm62] sj! [sjhs] i'm in nj [djm62] cool [sjhs] i could see the smoke from here [thephinn] sup? [ak1ra] in the UK we only get the london brewed stuff.. mabye the dublin guiness is better [ 11-Sep-01 19:47 ] siberian@sdf has joined ny. [hub] hey all. [thephinn] hey [djm62] might find out next week [dvnt] should we rename this room "beer"? [djm62] sj: did you hear it [thephinn] go 4 it [sjhs] how many people here are non-us? [starbuck] me [thephinn] me [djm62] me [siberian] meme [phm] me [hub] This stuff is crazy. UK news is going mad [sjhs] thanks [hub] I'm uk [thephinn] its on all the channels for houtrs [siberian] I'm a canuck [dvnt] I got that quote I poosted from a uk paper [starbuck] canadian kick ass ;) [dvnt] posted [sjhs] i didn't hear it [hub] So who here saw it? [djm62] late editions have it in? [thephinn] Canada does kick arse :-) [djm62] no comms from NY [dvnt] all it said was, [dvnt] The Most powerful mess in the U.S.A history occurred with out use of F16 [dvnt] nor Missals, nor Nuclear Bombs, [ 11-Sep-01 19:48 ] qball5@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] It is the Day that All oppressed around the world know that the real power [dvnt] is not in massive destruction weapons. [ak1ra] the UK is horrified.. seriously... is that war they talk about is going to happen UK will be involved i think [djm62] yeyeyeye [sjhs] there's are reason for that... [thephinn] its Guinness? [qball5] today shall live in infamouy [unpluged] any 1 seen alky [unpluged] or he is idkle [dvnt] haha [unpluged] blah idle [ak1ra] canada has bombed the baldwins [qball5] osmosis jones! [thephinn] lol [dvnt] it kind of sums it up though.. [sjhs] smj: are you dumping this disc.? [qball5] who cares about canada [qball5] ? [thephinn] the Queen [ak1ra] thats not nice [starbuck] me [ 11-Sep-01 19:49 ] rmess@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] i hear canada is getting all international-to-us flights [ 11-Sep-01 19:49 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Candians [starbuck] but if there is a war we are all invlived [siberian] Yep. Controllers are pretty busy. [rmess] /echo [rmess] bah [hub] heh [thephinn] lol [ 11-Sep-01 19:50 ] alky has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:50 ] kd5lct has left ny. [djm62] A gropu that powerful could have nukes [ 11-Sep-01 19:50 ] rmess@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] rmess, its a colon, not a slash [thephinn] they didn't do that much [ 11-Sep-01 19:50 ] qball5@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] i'm glad shl;ad^h^h^h slashdot decided to report it [hub] How the fuck can they lose a plane? [siberian] Canada has only 60 operational fighters. [thephinn] just well organised [djm62] they did it well though [thephinn] 60?!? [siberian] that's it. [thephinn] u guys r screwed [ak1ra] well all they did was hijack planes and crash them, it was a relatively crude attack [djm62] they must have had cooperation in airports [starbuck] we dont have much but we dont need more [siberian] Our friends to the south tentd to help out. [hub] did they have to be on the planes? [thephinn] or just big guns [dvnt] actaully it was a pretty well organized attack. [djm62] hub: that, or very persuasive [dvnt] they got them all on board with the means to hijack simultaneously [starbuck] canada does only support and peace mission [thephinn] v. well organised [thephinn] u guys r too nice :-) [ak1ra] it doesnt take militsary might to be able to plan something... sure it took a smart group of people though [dvnt] and destroyed buildings , planes and lives.. [djm62] with tacet govt support, they could get nukes [ak1ra] just buy them off the former SSR's [hub] Can't you ;controll those planes remotely, or is that just impossible? [ak1ra] im sure turkmenistan and the like kept some nuke sback from soviet times [djm62] they're proffesional enough [ 11-Sep-01 19:52 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] Why bother, biological r much easier and better [siberian] I'm surprised that there were no bio or chem weapons used. [dvnt] not posiible [djm62] hub: impossible [dvnt] (about the planes) [thephinn] anyways, this is much more effective [hub] ok. Just wondered. [thephinn] big media attention [ak1ra] whats really disturbing for me is that i did the exact same thing in MS flight sim last week... [djm62] first shot? [hub] brb [thephinn] u can blame the US authories 4 letting it happen this way [djm62] yeah [phm] MS is responsible [dvnt] you crashed into the WTC in slight sim? [siberian] I wonder if the pilots were killed immediately after the plane took off. [dvnt] flight sim [thephinn] Blame Micro$ost! [sjhs] who hasn't? [ak1ra] yeah i did [ 11-Sep-01 19:53 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] concorde goes bye-bye [ 11-Sep-01 19:53 ] ewok@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] either airport cooperation or extreme stupidity [sjhs] one plane traveled on its planned course for a time before turning south to new york [ak1ra] it doesnt take that to hijack a plane, just a weapon... [ 11-Sep-01 19:54 ] abolis@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] all they need is a guy with a gun on each plane, shouldn't be that hard [ak1ra] they probably had trained suicide pilots on board [djm62] yes, how did they get weapons on the plane [ 11-Sep-01 19:54 ] whocares@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:54 ] bpmaniac@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] nah, one guy isn't enough... [siberian] And someone to fly it. Do you think that a pilot would actually fly into an american bu9ilding? [thephinn] just dress up as a staff member, walk on [ak1ra] one of the guns in Existenz [phm] they may have only used baseball bats :0 [ak1ra] ceramic weapon [thephinn] the US pilot? nope [whocares] did the pilot died? [ak1ra] true PHM [abolis] the pilot brought them to the location, then they disabled him [djm62] ceramics are too brittle [thephinn] dude, they all died [ 11-Sep-01 19:55 ] pietro@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] the pilot probably was disposed of before the crash [siberian] Did us fighters shoot down any aircraft? That's not clear from our news reports. [djm62] we'll never know [abolis] no [whocares] i mean why would the pilot hit building w/ out saving him self [thephinn] and perhaps the passenfgers [ak1ra] i doubt it [phm] yeah the real pilot would have refused to crash there [siberian] for sure. [djm62] maybe [ 11-Sep-01 19:56 ] vivo@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] they said it was sucide pilots [ak1ra] whocares: these guys are fanatics on the nes every so often there are suicde bombings in israel... it's the same principle [whocares] did the pilot save him self? [ak1ra] news [vos] the polits where the terrist [djm62] whocares: no [thephinn] The pilot died [ak1ra] the hijackers were trained pilots [abolis] I doubt that [whocares] yah did the terrorist save him self or he commit suicide [thephinn] We assumed neways [siberian] I agree with ak1ra [ak1ra] who were fanaticleenough to do themselves in [ 11-Sep-01 19:57 ] ewok@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 19:57 ] freed@sdf has left ny. [abolis] it's prettyeasy to fly a plane into a building if you can see it... [djm62] unless they crawl from the rubble [vos] the pilots were trained hijackers in terristiesm [thephinn] gtg, though this is thrilling [ak1ra] bye phinn [phm] i wondr how they convince them that god aproves of this [whocares] hehe ok sorry im from philippines so th news here is not clear like in US [thephinn] laters guys [ 11-Sep-01 19:57 ] strkr@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] 'Cya [ak1ra] sorry whocares didnt know.. thought u were US :) [ 11-Sep-01 19:57 ] strkr@sdf has left ny. [siberian] I'm signing ing off.. I'm saddened by this attack. [whocares] hehe [ 11-Sep-01 19:58 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] everyone is.. even though i may not act like it... it seriously sucks major ass [ 11-Sep-01 19:58 ] gremgrem@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] what I want to know is why they didn't follow up with further attacks... [djm62] other further attacks [ak1ra] they did enough to make their point [ 11-Sep-01 19:58 ] whocares@sdf has left ny. [abolis] they damaged communications and moralre [djm62] they attacked 3 times this morning [sjhs] ther is only one tv station still broadcasting [ak1ra] i think 50,000 plus is enough deaths.... [phm] they caused global ressesion [djm62] where [djm62] NY local [djm62] ? [ak1ra] the economy is going to suffer after this [abolis] they don't care about the death tolll... [sjhs] who cares about the economy? [ 11-Sep-01 19:59 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] It is important [sjhs] wb [ak1ra] well you will when you or your parents/whatever lose their jobs because of it [abolis] heh, yeah [ 11-Sep-01 20:00 ] bpmaniac has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:00 ] siberian has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:00 ] sugardad has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:00 ] thephinn has left ny. [sjhs] don't hold your breath--there's no shortage of chores [ 11-Sep-01 20:00 ] vedder@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] when will they attack again is the real question. [sjhs] who will rebuild the city? [ak1ra] sure theres stuff needs doing, but the money will run out to pay for it [vos] you [djm62] the city will be mainly undamaged [sjhs] but you don't need money [vedder] hi [vos] they are going to turn the WTC into a park [abolis] nah, this operation could have been carried out on under 10 grand... [djm62] sj: money makes the world go round [ak1ra] face it... to lead a comfortable existance in the western world money is very very necessary [sjhs] dj: true, it was mainly just the towers, the surrounding buildings and somewhat downtown manhattan [abolis] what about the pentagon? [vos] they will not rebuild [abolis] that got majorly fucked... [ak1ra] does anyone know the ocllatteral damage to other buildings>? [sjhs] dj: i thought it was inertia. oh well.. [sjhs] who cares?!?! [abolis] a few on the verge of collapsing, all evacuated... [vedder] the goberment have any idea that who is the terrorist???? [djm62] sj: angular momentum please! [sjhs] sorry [djm62] physics degree does that to you [ak1ra] sj i applaud the very punk attitude but it does matter! [sjhs] i agree [vos] it was a planned attack by the gov. [abolis] heh yeah right [djm62] ak1ra: you voted apathy then? [ak1ra] apathys cool till something like this happens [vedder] a complot [abolis] the gov may have known... [ 11-Sep-01 20:03 ] mcoms@sdf has joined ny. [celica] i want to go down there and blow away all thoes ppl cheering in the streets! [djm62] this is a good time to give up on humanity [djm62] celica grow up [ak1ra] lets get mohawks and hate our parents ^_^ [abolis] dj: that was a long time ago... [abolis] humanity... [ 11-Sep-01 20:04 ] saddam@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] LOL [djm62] lmfao [vos] rap and pillwe are not human [vedder] saddam? [abolis] was it you, saddam? [celica] egrow up!? [saddam] vedder: nothing serious [vedder] LAG [djm62] yes [saddam] about thatabout my name, that is [djm62] lot's of people don't wish the US well [celica] do you even realized what has happened? [ 11-Sep-01 20:05 ] lowrance@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] these people didn't do it [ak1ra] those people were only cheering because the us allies with their enemiesa in israel [abolis] no, enlighten us [djm62] they're idiots [ 11-Sep-01 20:05 ] evilbob@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] ibn laudn did it... [djm62] but they're innocent [ 11-Sep-01 20:06 ] evilbob@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] come on abolis you dont know that... [abolis] no [lowrance] exit [celica] i dont care if they are inoccent [abolis] but he has the resources, [celica] they feed this hatred! [sjhs] we're partly at fault (i use 'we' in a broad sense) [abolis] the people [ak1ra] then you are the worst form of US bully [djm62] congratulations you're a terrorist [abolis] and the brain power [ 11-Sep-01 20:06 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] ME? [abolis] heh [ 11-Sep-01 20:06 ] saddam@sdf has left ny. [djm62] no celica [ak1ra] not you abolis -_- [abolis] sorry [vedder] saddam send the attack [abolis] too many people [ak1ra] you cant just kill people because they dont like you.. [celica] well... other people do it [jsandven] q/lkjiw_cghdf [celica] obviously [sjhs] or because you don't like them [djm62] "I want to kill those people...""I don't care that they're innocent" [abolis] virtue [abolis] that is the key [jsandven] hmm [vedder] -help [abolis] not ,"cause other people d it [vedder] /help [abolis] do it [sjhs] type :help [jsandven] -help:help [djm62] you're saying that because someone vaguely linked to them bombed your country [ 11-Sep-01 20:08 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:08 ] khai42@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] you are willing to bomb women and children- civillians [jsandven] quit [vedder] thanks [ 11-Sep-01 20:09 ] jsandven@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] type :quit [ 11-Sep-01 20:09 ] jsandven@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] two wrongs dont make a right... [djm62] given that the US bombed they're country and forcibly took it from them [sjhs] ALL COMMANDS ARE PRECEEDED BY ':' just so you know [ 11-Sep-01 20:09 ] vedder@sdf has left ny. [abolis] no, but two lefts do [djm62] which by your arguement means YOU did [jsandven] thanks, aklra. first time. [djm62] celica [ 11-Sep-01 20:09 ] mse61@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] guild by association [ 11-Sep-01 20:10 ] lowrance has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:10 ] vivo@sdf has left ny. [djm62] they have, in your midset, every right to bomb innocents [djm62] *mindset [ak1ra] to colin powell et al. justice means death... [abolis] how would you suggest resolving this, ak1 [mse61] but helpq [mse61] oopse [djm62] my grammar seems to have died, for that I apologise [sjhs] let's not group all officials together, either. some of them are sane :) [ak1ra] hey man i dont have the answers ^_^ [ak1ra] but i do have the right to bitch aobut it [abolis] indeed [ 11-Sep-01 20:11 ] cjcs@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] the only way to counter this is through more terrorism... [abolis] but that is not right [celica] what do thoes people do all day djm? they shoot each other.... that does no one any good... if we blow them away then .... who knows, im just pissed i watch thoes people cheereing and .... [abolis] the only way to safeguard against this is taking away rightss... [ 11-Sep-01 20:12 ] mse61@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] and that is not right [ 11-Sep-01 20:12 ] jsandven@sdf has left ny. [abolis] what to do? [cjcs] well, at least we don't have to hear about stupid Gary COnduit and Chandra now. [djm62] celica: have some perspective- in the uk it looks like americans just shoot at each other [sjhs] there were only like 3 people cheering, everyone else was standing back watching them make a fool of themself [celica] lol, i agree [ak1ra] celica : I would be Po'd about that too, it's never good to see anyone burinng your flag >:( [mse61] Human existance is defined by misery [abolis] perhaps... [sjhs] please excuse my grammar, as well [ak1ra] reminds me of the gulf and the falklnds (even though i wasnt born then) [cjcs] This has to affect the US and world economy, don tyou guys think? [djm62] just a tad [starbuck] it will [celica] lol, in the uk you guys thing that amreicans shoot each other all day?! [sjhs] oy, again with the economy [starbuck] alot [mse61] There is no simple explination for terriosim, just that is causes terror [abolis] LEMOTE throws his in [abolis] woops... [starbuck] why do you think they hit the trade center [abolis] wrong letter, no local echo... [djm62] celica you have insane gun laws and huge crime rates [ak1ra] are you a philospohy student by ant chance mse61? [ 11-Sep-01 20:14 ] jsandven@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] any [celica] insane gun laws!? [mse61] nope [ak1ra] tru true true [ 11-Sep-01 20:15 ] nofrizal has left ny. [celica] the right to bear arms is in sane? [djm62] yes [ak1ra] dman straight [ 11-Sep-01 20:15 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] man now my spelling has died [celica] you guys are brain washed [djm62] what percentage of people are smart enough to be in control of themselves [ak1ra] well we arent shot yet too ^_^ [mse61] no were not [abolis] that's the problem [djm62] let alone the power of life and death [abolis] stupid people [celica] you guys let your govt run all over your rights [ 11-Sep-01 20:16 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [mse61] there is nothing wrong with guns as long as you use them responsiblly [abolis] (pardon my conspiracy) [djm62] are US gun laws meant to solve the problem of stupid people? [celica] look at your gas prices! [ak1ra] no we dont, the people here protest hard when the governemnt pisses them off [ 11-Sep-01 13:16 ] pagurus@sdf has joined ny. [mse61] that's free market ecomomy [djm62] celica: if I don't klike a law I break it [sjhs] blah blah blah.. [jsandven] laws aren't for people who do things responsibly [celica] then you go to jail [dvnt] tru jsandven [djm62] no [ 11-Sep-01 20:16 ] bobik@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] tur [abolis] true [mse61] the gov'e has taken all rights away from the citizens for their power [dvnt] if you cant control yourself, then someone will try to do it for you [djm62] the govt is irrelevanmt to me , as far as possible [djm62] I ignore it, don't get caght [ak1ra] the fact is that the powers that be here are fair and sympathetic towards the people, we never have any reason to protest most of the time [mse61] even anarchists believe in gov't [djm62] *caught [celica] thats what you think... thats what you want to belive but you know its not ture [cjcs] just wait until gas prices in US are the same as in Europe...then those gas-guzzling SUV's wont be so appealing ..hehe [ 11-Sep-01 21:17 ] dcg@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] heh [pagurus] shall we go back to days of:h [mse61] SUV should be outlawed [celica] i hate suv's ... i cant see whats in front of them... :P [ak1ra] gas price here is high so that our country can be responsible and meet our pollution targets [ 11-Sep-01 20:18 ] khai42@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] you must have a celica.. :) [celica] yup [dvnt] (just guesing) [mse61] Celicas are cool cars [abolis] who here isnot US citizen? [ak1ra] the US doesnt even have pollution targes cause bu**sh** pulled outta kyoto [djm62] celica: I wasn't slandering the US, just pointing out that you need to go somewhere to understand it [jsandven] dual citizen. [pagurus] shall we go back to the days of mercantile feudalism where you look out afgter your own ass or someone else cuts it to ribbons? [cjcs] I don't think , in responce to celica, that High gas prices in EUrope have anything to do with their laws...it's a suply and demand thing? [abolis] of? [ak1ra] my mother is US [jsandven] norway US [mse61] The us has been screwed up since they began to believe in a welfare gov't [abolis] mm. [cjcs] FEUDALISM! hehe. [celica] if you guys have such great gas laws... how come you have Celica GT-4's? we dont have thoes in america.... why? because they dont meet are stupidly high standards! [djm62] celica: they are not dumb arabs that hang around making war [jsandven] writing from oslo. [smj] what countries are you guys from? [smj] USA seattle [djm62] scotland [abolis] USA Indiana [cjcs] Texas. [ak1ra] scotland [sjhs] USA NJ [dvnt] I think everyone has a point, but the only way to get out of being lumped in with a generalization is to make a point to understand all of the points of view [vos] Sa jose [celica] Sacramento Cali [mse61] USA Oohio [sjhs] smj: u dumping this? [ 11-Sep-01 20:20 ] ikzelf has left ny. [ak1ra] Texas may as well be it's own country ^_^ [mse61] *Ohio [dvnt] US, fort lauderdale [sjhs] it used to be.. [ 11-Sep-01 20:20 ] afay@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:20 ] vos@sdf has left ny. [djm62] celica: they are people who like you are trying to defend their percieved rights [darklady] USA Los Angeles [dvnt] formerly seattle.. [ak1ra] werent all the colonies independant at one point? [sjhs] "The Lonestar State" [cjcs] where is celica from? [sjhs] no, they were all owned by britain [ 11-Sep-01 20:20 ] kentd@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] i thought two of the states were even at war at one point [pagurus] true govts take powers from the govened, but it's the governed's responsibility to assume their govt given powers! This takes a concerted effort. The sort of effort that we should be engaged in at the time when our national security has been comprimised. [mse61] the colonies were independent when they went to war [sjhs] as of the dec of ind [sjhs] of courzs [celica] im from California [abolis] Heh [ak1ra] yeah but i mean independant from each other not unified [sjhs] Social COntract [mse61] a gov't is ment to keep social oorder and take power from the people [djm62] homo homine lupus... [ak1ra] social order i agreee with [djm62] social contract my furry.. [sjhs] conservatism, then? [djm62] don't know [mse61] a social contract is the main purpose of gov't [ak1ra] i'm scared of US conservativces ^_^ [ 11-Sep-01 20:22 ] daymon@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] does social order imply lifestyle control? [djm62] to be honest [celica] your scared of me ak1ra [mse61] no it dosen't [jsandven] I just learned norwegian conservatives are american democrats [sjhs] or can freedom and Socialism coexist? [celica] no [mse61] they can't [djm62] lmfao [cjcs] yeah...'conservative' in norway is probably 'liberal' her in TX..heh [abolis] Socialism or socialism? [ak1ra] they might skin me, lynch my black friends and drinktoo much moonshine and get all violent... [celica] socialism is the absence of freedom [ 11-Sep-01 20:23 ] vos@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] is it? [ 11-Sep-01 20:23 ] afay@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] that's not the definition i got... [cjcs] i've neaver hear socialism reduced to a 1-liner before. [djm62] I voted socialist [dvnt] well, it wasnt designed with that idea [cjcs] any political scientists can give us a better less biased definition? [abolis] socialism is a good ideal... [mse61] to control a socialistic gov't involves the stripping of all freedom,... its the main point of 1984 [ak1ra] the scottish socialist party is kinda scary... [djm62] but I think that [djm62] perma-tan sheridan is cool! [djm62] but I didn't vote in scotland [pagurus] Of course socialism and freedom could coexist *if* the socialism in question accurately demonstrated the will of the people. [ak1ra] the MP in the puffa jacket ^_^ [abolis] once again the ideal [sjhs] pag: that's the point of gov't neway [djm62] I think that democracy may be inherently bad [celica] the will of the people would all have to be the same [abolis] it is [celica] and if that were the case, i wouldnt want to live there [mse61] but once the ppeople who run the social gov't take control they don't want to give up theat power [dvnt] true, but no government succeeds in living up to its ideal [abolis] tyrrany of the majority [sjhs] democracy wouldn't be so bad if it weren't influenced so my $$$ [ 11-Sep-01 21:25 ] dcg@sdf has left ny. [djm62] mediocracy [sjhs] s/my/by [mse61] democracy is the greatest form of gov't if you leave out the money [sjhs] btw, there was supposed to be a Democratic primary in NYC today [ 11-Sep-01 20:26 ] ichou@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] not even without the money, mse [mse61] lol [celica] you guys dont know, because your not american.... youll never understand our point of view [cjcs] ak1ra, can you send me that mp3? hehe. (never heard it?) [celica] esp. if your a socialist [sjhs] sure they will [sjhs] they'll understand it before i do :) [ak1ra] soyuz nerooshimi, we no longer exist danananananana [abolis] our wasteful gluttonous american viewpoint? [jsandven] reading slashdot today, and it's headlines included US Embassy evacuated in oslo. strange to read. [abolis] that one, celica? [djm62] celica: I I come from another counrtry, . don't mean I'm an idiot [ 11-Sep-01 20:27 ] syd@sdf has joined ny. [hub] was there a warning on friday [hub] ? [sjhs] so much stuff is happening in so many places, it's distracting and kinda scary [mse61] ,the us is on a heightened state of alert [ichou] d [ 11-Sep-01 20:27 ] ichou@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] and i can see this is affecting more than just peole in the us [ak1ra] we are used to terrorism here in the UK but nothing like that scale... [abolis] I belI believe cheney summed it up best when he said... [djm62] yeah [sjhs] i hear london was evacuated? [djm62] IRA are almost friendly [celica] we are not used to terroism [abolis] Americans shouldn't have to conserve [ak1ra] the stock exchange and many company buildings [pagurus] How did this happen? I thought that "privacy" was a thing that we told kid;'s about so that they wouldn't interrupt pur having sex. [djm62] sj: london isn't a village [sjhs] so? [ak1ra] it's a hamlet ^_^ [djm62] I don't think you could evacuate it [mse61] ,sure you could [pagurus] idn't *someDidn't *Smoebody* knopw? [jsandven] anabolis - he said that? in what context? [djm62] the london stock exchange was [sjhs] what happened to your grammar + usage? whs it resurrected ? :) [abolis] speaking about the cali crisis. [sjhs] s/whs/whas [sjhs] d'oh [abolis] not exact quote [celica] what cali crisis? [abolis] energy [jsandven] Like the oil exec he is. [celica] thats not much of a crisis [abolis] no [abolis] but [celica] ive never lost pwer [ak1ra] that.. no thats something we dont have experience of here... but may have if there are many more windfarms installed [mse61] thats just becasue of deregulation of utilities [ 11-Sep-01 20:30 ] pasta@sdf has joined ny. [mse61] a stupid gov't program [abolis] it sums up our stereotypical glutton attitude... [abolis] in america [ 11-Sep-01 20:30 ] ewok@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] (cheney's statement [abolis] ) [ 11-Sep-01 20:30 ] maestro@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] there are loads of yanks here in scotland at this time of year [celica] yeah... the problem is not that we cant make enou power.... well, we cant, but thats because of stupid politics with our retarded govoner [pagurus] Hear! Hear! If we had worke don alternative energy forms ourselves in the seventies, we would have had the other Arab nations by the coglioni such that there would be no chance of a secret attack. [mse61] then get rid of him [ 11-Sep-01 20:31 ] maestro@sdf has left ny. [jsandven] norway leads the world in recycling of pop cans, beer bottles [ak1ra] i wanna move to hawaii [ 11-Sep-01 20:31 ] pasta@sdf has left ny. [abolis] Beear [abolis] oops [ak1ra] yes we know jsandven -_- [ 11-Sep-01 20:31 ] syd@sdf has left ny. [mse61] there is no alternitavie energy source that can outcompete coal and oil [abolis] Sorry, what msee? [jsandven] I just learned that. I just moved here, from 2 miles from the pentagon. [mse61] 'xept nuclear [abolis] but we don't need all the energy we use! [mse61] for the most part we do [ak1ra] Norway is cool, here is scotland we are closer to norway that to other foreign countries [abolis] Our pollution problem is the overuse of that power/ [mse61] and whats the population of both countries? [celica] no we dont, and in cali, we have reduced the amount of energy we use by something like 30% [ 11-Sep-01 20:33 ] gremgrem@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] On the exposed surfaces of the earth, excluding the oceans, enough sunlight falls in a year to provide several *EXOJULES* of energy --enough to power the entire planet for years into the future. [ 11-Sep-01 20:33 ] tbates@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] i wanna move to so. cal too ^_^ [jsandven] you pay a deposit of 11 cents for each can, [mse61] but converting and istributing that energy would result in an energy deficit [celica] we dont know how to harnes that power completely tho [sjhs] yes, but plants and things need lots of sunlight.. [abolis] this conversation has moved far waway from NY [abolis] away [sjhs] you can't cover the earth in solar cells [darklady] Los Angele [djm62] please [mse61] nor can all thoes solar cells work efficently [djm62] I want solar cells [abolis] thak yoyu [celica] /who [ak1ra] we shouldnt try to rely on renewable power too much at this time [ 11-Sep-01 20:34 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [celica] how do you see a list of everyone on here? [sjhs] hah! [jsandven] fuel cells.. [djm62] we should be able to soon [sjhs] type :who [ak1ra] trechnology on that department needs to advance a bit first [abolis] use muscles [sjhs] we shouldn [cjcs] if everybody in america replaced 1 60 watt bulb with a 1 compact flourescent bulb...the savings in energy would be enourmous... [abolis] muslce fiber creates large amounts of energy [sjhs] t ...try to rely on non-renewable energy! [ 11-Sep-01 20:35 ] tbates@sdf has left ny. [cjcs] conservation and efficiency are different thigns.... [mse61] use a pebbel nuclear reactor [cjcs] cheney , dick tries to group them together.. [ak1ra] a cold fusion reacotr ^_^ [sjhs] the savings would be even better if they never had a 60 watt bulb in the first place.. [ak1ra] got one of them in my garage [celica] my friend just emaild me a pic of a guy jumping of the wtc as it is exploding.... [cjcs] fusion is perhaps 50 years away (they always say that) [abolis] cold fusion is a myth [mse61] fusion is on the horizon but not cold fusion [celica] thoes bastards [abolis] yeah, the sun is all about fusion [mse61] the next big thing will be fuel cells [ak1ra] i bet i could do it ^_^ [cjcs] all I'm saying is..you can lead a comfortoable life by buying into more efficient stuff. [ 11-Sep-01 20:36 ] phoenixm@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] and it seems to be on the horizon all the time [sjhs] wow..like 4 people have affected the entire planet and made history [jsandven] I have a friend who is a cold fusion expert [abolis] really [ 11-Sep-01 20:36 ] cham@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] aklra, are you sure they haven't tried biological warfare in your area? I think you are delerious. :) [cjcs] unfortunately, a lot of that efficient stuff is expensive (solar water heater, solar cells, etc..) [jsandven] yeah, but I hate databases.. [sjhs] i would have prefered it to have been four scientists for some noble cause, not 4 terrorists killing who knows how many civilians [jsandven] just kidding [mse61] true [sjhs] noaa.gov seems to be down [mse61] and the dumbest will cange the would [abolis] noaa? [pagurus] What's donre is done. H [cjcs] i thought cold fusion is a scam like a 'perpetual energy machine' [djm62] no [sjhs] national oceanic and aeronautic administration ibelieve [abolis] k [pagurus] What is done is done,; however, we need to find out what we can do about future attacks. [djm62] there's no physical objection [cjcs] as opposed to real nuclear fusion, as occurs in sun, and laboratories, at HIGH temp's and pressures? [ 11-Sep-01 20:38 ] tubbs@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:38 ] laurel@sdf has joined ny. [abolis] Hey, I know, we could create gold from lead with fusion! [phoenixm] qqqqq!!!!!!: [ak1ra] cold fusion alchemy [pagurus] My guess is that the internet may be soon to follow. These targets seem to have been picked with too much care in their implementation (of attack) [abolis] HAHA [ak1ra] rocks !!! [ 11-Sep-01 20:39 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] gee, what a novel idea.. [dvnt] anyone ever checked out futurehorizons.net? [dvnt] cool site [ 11-Sep-01 20:39 ] yang@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:40 ] mse61 has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:40 ] niknov has left ny. [yang] hello all' [yang] carzy shit eh ? [jsandven] http://www.warriorsofthe.net is a very cool site. [abolis] gtg, got work... was fun... later all [yang] er crazy [ 11-Sep-01 20:40 ] abolis@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] haha [ak1ra] bye abolis, [dvnt] later [pietro] whatz 's the time in USA? [ak1ra] spare a tohught for the dead tohugh eh... [ 11-Sep-01 20:40 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] th [dvnt] 4/41 pm in florida.. [pagurus] Can we bring this back to NY somehow? I have friends there and still don't know if they're alive or what. [sjhs] 441 ny time [yang] sorry to hear [dvnt] true, lets get to the purpose of the room [ak1ra] try one of the emergency helplines [pietro] 841 pm in Switzerland [ak1ra] 9:38 BST [pietro] how do you feel after this horrible day? [vos] 1:42 PST [ 11-Sep-01 20:42 ] ewok@sdf has left ny. [laze] I feel sick and I have a headache [pietro] it's difficult to guess for people out us [ak1ra] i feel safe.. but i feel that my country is vulnerable... [yang] im wonderoing wahts happenning next [dvnt] news is definitely saying that it appears to be bin laden, but not to rule out that it could be combined between him and saddam [sjhs] afterwards? i feel relieved . it was tough during the event [ 11-Sep-01 20:42 ] phoenixm@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] even here in the UK i was shaking when i saw the live pics [ 11-Sep-01 20:42 ] demonola@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:42 ] phoenixm@sdf has left ny. [jsandven] 22:43 oslo [yang] its s [ak1ra] I saw the second smash-up live [pietro] i too [yang] its not who we think it is [pagurus] Sort of makes Pearl Harbor look like a love tap. [pietro] those imag [laze] there will probably be literally 10's of thousands killed [ak1ra] I bet some other deranged unabomber type claims responsibility [sjhs] anyone here in NJ? [yang] who we think it is would have allready confessed [pietro] those images ahave arrived here too [laze] 50000 work in those towers [ak1ra] pietro where are you? [pietro] in Switzerland [ak1ra] cool [pietro] safe ;-) [yang] where you at ak1ra [yang] ? [demonola] i [ak1ra] scotland [pietro] /help [pietro] ;-) [demonola] i think that there will be more [ 11-Sep-01 20:45 ] elninio@sdf has joined ny. [yang] something i believe is going on we dont know about through the us media [sjhs] oy... [yang] too much shit closing [pietro] demonola, why do you think so? i think that the terrorists demonstrated what they wanted to > [demonola] i can't say that [ak1ra] being the US ally who has done the nearest damage to the arab world in conjunction with the US it's a scary time for brits [demonola] i mean [yang] i agree with demonola [demonola] why did they hit [pagurus] I rather like what Tony Blair said: that thier acts deserve such denouncement that there are not words wenough to pronounce it and that their shame should stand as a witness against its;lef for all eternity. [demonola] these targets? [celica] quit [sjhs] wow [laze] I've always liked Tony Blair [sjhs] BEHOLD THE HOLY : [ak1ra] Blair was craft.. he use dthe incident to get out of the TRade Unions conferance [ 11-Sep-01 20:46 ] celica@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] crafty beggar [dvnt] lol sjhs [pietro] because these targets are the image of the might of US [demonola] i saw on the tv that someones where celebrating [ak1ra] and of global capitalism [sjhs] can anyone read and/or write lojban? [ 11-Sep-01 20:47 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] oh yeah they were throwing around candy and shytt.. [ak1ra] they dont like the U.S because they support israel thats why they were celebrating [pietro] yes i saw, assholes! [ 11-Sep-01 20:47 ] isopod@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:48 ] hanord@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:48 ] bburton@sdf has joined ny. [demonola] when i heard about the pentagon..... [dvnt] regardless of who they support, they are celebrating the deaths of thousands of innocent people [demonola] i could not believe it [yang] the pentagon supposedly secure air space [isopod] not its own [ak1ra] so did the U.S when hiroshima was bombed... i'm not supporting terrorism but you have to try to see things from other's point of view [ 11-Sep-01 20:49 ] afloranc@sdf has joined ny. [pietro] ak.. i agrree with you [ 11-Sep-01 20:49 ] bburton@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] me2 [dvnt] i wasnt there, but were we having parties and throwing around candy when the bomb dropped? [pagurus] I agree, However, we didn't do anything directly to these peole (O think.) [jsandven] we didn't have cnn. [ak1ra] we have to concentrate oh the actual terorists not being angry at the muslim civilians who were celebrating [yang] around the rest of the world us not necessarily the most pop [dvnt] tru ak1ra [pagurus] Not all Muslims were @#$%^&*! [isopod] no, but did anyone consider that foreignors also live in ny [sjhs] there are people here who would celebrate the instant a 'retaliation' were conducted on whomever is found to be responsible for this [ak1ra] the E.U nations should provide the necessary support the U.S while hunting down the actual perpetrators [pietro] the USA shall understand that it can't continue to play with the rest of the world [yang] how many think the gov could be resposible just curious ive heard some rumors [sjhs] so many people... [pietro] us is not the master of the universe [dvnt] no its not the master of the universe, youre right, [demonola] yes but what aBOUT inoccent [sjhs] of course not, it can't even prosecute MS :) [demonola] people [isopod] the usa is not a person, it is a set of institutions [yang] gov asking for loan of ss withdrawing fromj treaties [ 11-Sep-01 20:52 ] batgirl@sdf has joined ny. [yang] more money for military [sjhs] oy [pietro] demonola i know.. but this were the only way to make them be listened [isopod] we can not punish innocent ny's because the crimes of institutinos [ 11-Sep-01 20:52 ] cjcs@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] but when you are one of the only countries that takes an active stand on a lot of issues and is willing to get involed, you will probably not be very popular all of the time. [yang] what better way to demonstrate weakness [demonola] quit [ak1ra] As much as I enjoy it we should not just slag off the U.S for this... she should sympathise with these people whether it was their fault or not [ 11-Sep-01 20:52 ] cjcs@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] they didnt ask to be attacked [isopod] noee of the firefighters asked to die today [isopod] they were just tryting to save lives [pagurus] It is the institutions that these people are angry at, not the US support of Isreal --per se. In a way we are misrepresented to the whole world all the time. [yang] this whole thing is so sad [sjhs] the terrorists must have known that their countries would be attacked in retaliation..but that doesn't mean those 4 people had their nations' support [isopod] sorry, who is we? [isopod] the usa, or someone else [pagurus] We, the people..." " [cjcs] (don't assume "we" is us...this is the sdf...international in extent!) [ak1ra] the U.S traditionally have been damned if they do damned if they dont... it comes with the territory [sjhs] of the United States [isopod] exactly [sjhs] In order to form a more Perfect Union, [ 11-Sep-01 20:54 ] ecf@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] sdf rules [pietro] ok see ya people, [sjhs] establish Domestic Tranquility [sjhs] Promote the Common Defence [ak1ra] SDF! without borders for the good of it's user [pagurus] True, I was speaking of US. A bit arrogant (agreed) [dvnt] later pietro [isopod] yes, I think i've heard that one before [djm62] establish sdf [sjhs] Provide for the General Welfare [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] pietro@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] afloranc has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] batgirl has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] elninio has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] mcoms has left ny. [djm62] hehehe [ 11-Sep-01 16:55 ] jason@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] what is this ? a netsplit? [yang] Hello everyone, [djm62] bybys [sjhs] And Secure our Blessings to Ourselves and our Posterity [yang] This is Nicholas Longo, the CEO of CoffeeCup Software. [yang] As you may have heard the World Trade Center and Pentagon [yang] were attacked about 45 minutes ago. [cjcs] SDF shoulhd have like a declaration of inxcependence from ISP's and .COM"s [yang] The Team at CoffeeCup would like to send our heart felt [yang] sorrow to those that perished in these attacks. [yang] We would like to also say on record that if any country [yang] is found responsible for these attacks, we call for that [yang] country's complete destruction and annihilation. [yang] Do not let terrorism which is designed to create fear [yang] and stop production, halt your life or work. [yang] Stay focused and do not stop what you are doing. [yang] -May God bless us all and the decisions we must make. [yang] Nick- [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] ace@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] Do ordain and establish this Constitution for the united states of amearica [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] hanord@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 20:55 ] jsandven@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] Oh, SDF! [ak1ra] Sans Domicile Fixe!!! [cjcs] is that a real announcement ( coffe cup?) [isopod] are we homeless here [sjhs] no [yang] yeh [ak1ra] me too i'm a real life SDF lol [sjhs] ok, yes [yang] coffe cup software html editor [cjcs] isn't that going to o far? complete annihilation of the offeding country? [yang] just saw it in my email [sjhs] oh cannada [dvnt] hard to know what punishment fits the crime.. [djm62] ak1: too interlectural [ak1ra] We would like to also say on record that if any [ak1ra] country [isopod] no country is responisbile for the acts of individuals or groups within [ak1ra] [yang] is found responsible for these attacks, we call for that [sjhs] d'oh [ak1ra] [yang] country's complete destruction and annihilation. [sjhs] canada [ak1ra] thats petty [sjhs] sorry, conadians [yang] i didnt say it [ 11-Sep-01 20:57 ] laurel@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] i know mate [cjcs] I won' t ever buy CoffeeCup Software then. [isopod] do we chose our nationalities? [ak1ra] another building has collapsed.. [ 11-Sep-01 20:57 ] thephinn@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] true, in this case, since it may be the act of a group, and not the backing of an entire country.. [sjhs] no individual is responsible for the actions of yadda yadda their nation [yang] i just want to know what happened and how to rprevent the next [isopod] yes, prevention. [dvnt] hey phinn welcome back [ak1ra] the prez is at SAC NORAD [thephinn] hey man [ 11-Sep-01 20:58 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] decent airport security [pietro] i'm back [yang] could they have bluffed there way these terrrorist [dvnt] definitely airport security, they get paid very little [yang] er their [ 11-Sep-01 20:58 ] pietro@sdf has left ny for echo. [ak1ra] pietro, do you speak french there? [isopod] p is or were they just the pilots themseleves [yang] good ? [yang] ? = question [thephinn] I doubt the airport security were bribed [dvnt] I dont mean that, [yang] maybe the pilots ere allready in place [isopod] they werevery precise. [thephinn] Just circumvented [ 11-Sep-01 21:00 ] dicon has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:00 ] kentd has left ny. [ak1ra] you dont need to bribe the airport for getting it hijacked [dvnt] i mean, ean, well trained personnel demand larger salaries.. [yang] it sucks we havent heard of any survivors of the olanes themselves [ak1ra] bye [ 11-Sep-01 21:00 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] later [yang] er planes [yang] if there was any [isopod] maybe we should just avoid tall buildings, safer that way [thephinn] It was obvious they all died [thephinn] Bye Kaira [dvnt] yeah, they even closed teh space needle [ 11-Sep-01 21:01 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] Gotta go. [unpluged] dang the whole crew [yang] you never know freakier things have happened [thephinn] I severely doubt it [ 11-Sep-01 14:02 ] pagurus@sdf has left ny. [yang] so do i [thephinn] unfortunately [ 11-Sep-01 21:02 ] ianr@sdf has joined ny. [isopod] anyone type o blood? [yang] but it would be nice to know an inside scoop [sjhs] JonKatz has a lot to say [yang] i am [thephinn] me [isopod] thes y need it in ny ... i'nm not there though [isopod] not even on the continent [yang] could you donate at a local facility [yang] surely they wouldnt ban red cross flights [isopod] not really sure. [dvnt] ive been getting decent news reports in my email from spynews [sjhs] i think there are shipping blood from all over [thephinn] hmmm... 2000 miles away, sorry [sjhs] i'm gonna give my phone line a rest--cya [ 11-Sep-01 21:03 ] sjhs@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:03 ] isis@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] c ya [cjcs] takl about a corporate opport:ECHO [cjcs] heeh [cjcs] x10.com even says something about the NY incident [dvnt] anyone know how long they plan to close the airports? I heard it would be the rest of the week [osmosis] lparealhttp://ws1.umgllc.net/~shane/attack/willfe/wtc_divx.avgoto:quit [cjcs] "we here at x10.com want to exploit this tragedy to make sus look ilke we care" [yang] i heard until at least noon tommorrow [ 11-Sep-01 21:05 ] demonola has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:05 ] ianr has left ny. [yang] im wondering what is next and if thats why no claims have been made [dvnt] tru [yang] and where are those missing backpack nukes [ 11-Sep-01 21:06 ] fellon@sdf has joined ny. [isopod] where was the pitsburg plane heading? [thephinn] make it more frightening [dvnt] probably around here somewhere.. [yang] thats what scares me [thephinn] the mystery attackers [ 11-Sep-01 21:06 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [fellon] Pitsburg plane was heading to San Francisco [yang] hi darklady [yang] where did ya here that fellon [yang] ? [isopod] maybe the sears tower then [fellon] NLocal News, I live near sf [isopod] its on the way [yang] i figured an attack would happen around noon today et [yang] but nothing happened [yang] the west coast hasnt been hit yet [dvnt] I would guess that if theres gonna be another one, it will be late tonight [yang] if it is to continue [ 11-Sep-01 21:08 ] aeoespam@sdf has joined ny. [darklady] LA downtown is hut down, LAX is shut down [isopod] from where? all thee jets are on the ground (officially) [aeoespam] oh god [fellon] As far as I understand, all planes in the united states, have been accounted for. [yang] im near columbus ohio even our local mall has shut down [yang] why i dont know [dvnt] damn.. [darklady] SF airport is shut down [aeoespam] yang: tulsa too [isopod] but were there bombs two? those building went down fast. [fellon] They called for a no fly zone over the US and Canada. [yang] thats what i was wondering they say there was an explosion but.. was it from the planes damage ro.. [yang] er or [ 11-Sep-01 21:10 ] thephinn has left ny. [isis] h?: [isopod] I mean the planes could have done it, but they must have been very precise [yang] but they was so high up waht caused the lower levels to collapse [isopod] to hit the strucutral center of the skyscrapers [isopod] maybe a shock wave [dvnt] well, those buildings sway when the wind blows.. [fellon] They did a interview with one of the people in the building at the time and he said he heard explosions just previous to the buildings collapsing. [yang] possibility i dont know enough about architecture [fellon] I guess they will know for sure after the rescue cres get started. [daymon] 'i think a plane is enough for a building that tall [aeoespam] hesjesus there is nothing left [dvnt] tru, keep in mind the planes full of jet fuel.. [fellon] But an hour between impact and then collapse? [daymon] they probaly got tons of fuel [yang] something 22 by 5 stories high hole left [isopod] not just that, when things crash kinetic energy becimes heat, heat exaplnds, its like a bomb [dvnt] got to go, later [ 11-Sep-01 21:13 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [yang] im not sure if it was feet or or what ? [ 11-Sep-01 21:13 ] smjalso@sdf has joined ny. [cjcs] yeh..i don't think the buildings wer bombed...the planes energy could have done it all. [smjalso] here is a site with some very high res photos [darklady] all the planes just left their origin and all had cross country flights - translation 100 of thousands of tons highly explosive airplane fuel [smjalso] http://www.kenyattacheese.net/http://www.kenyattacheese.net/ [yang] ODODODODODOD [smjalso] you can get some reports quicker than the news websites at cypher.7thsign.net [isopod] nice picts, but i want to see what is left at the base of the towers [isopod] anythin out yet? [smjalso] I am recording the news [smjalso] Might burning it to CD, actually will! [fellon] I think there is still tomuch smoke and such. [unpluged] impersonation [smjalso] Lots of ground images. [unpluged] eww smj gets pissed [unpluged] tell them smj [unpluged] heh ;) [ 11-Sep-01 21:16 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:16 ] ecc@sdf has joined ny. [aeoespam] isopod: there is nothing left [aeoespam] isopod: i saw a few on CBS, maybe 2 or 3 stories of blackened metal on fire [smjalso] is there any other sites with images [isopod] just rubble then? [aeoespam] yeah [smjalso] I've been looking all over. [isopod] jesus [smjalso] Of course the buildings sites are gone. [aeoespam] the streets are full of concreete, papers, dust, metal, trash, smashed cars, [smjalso] yup. [smjalso] It's aweful!! [smjalso] There is some footage from a F Dr. there that is better than the news footage. [cjcs] just think what woul hhappen if a plane crashed into a nuclear reactor.. [smjalso] Kiro 7 (pst side) is playing it. [daymon] i wounder if they are going to rebouild those skyscrapers [smjalso] My god, I can't imagein [smjalso] That would be silly. [aeoespam] smjalso: where [smjalso] To much money [smjalso] Kiro7 [isopod] hopefully, just a part with names. [aeoespam] jesus man [isopod] park [aeoespam] they couldnt fit all the names there [isopod] no, probably not [yang] i think they would rebuild [smjalso] They are historical sites, we can't replace them [cjcs] couldn't they make a monuyment? How many people were killed in vietname, ad are on that vietnam memorial? [ 11-Sep-01 21:20 ] celica@sdf has joined ny. [isopod] i'm worried about the impications for geopolitics [smjalso] sure, maybe a monument, but not the buildings [aeoespam] o h yeah, vietnam. [celica] check otut he pics on my site [ 11-Sep-01 21:21 ] hagoth@sdf has joined ny. [fellon] I:quit [isopod] things could get out of hand [celica] celica.freeshell.org [smjalso] Well, 1 thirs (thid) of the money in the us goes through NY. [isopod] when the shock is over [smjalso] *third [isopod] and people get angry in the us [celica] there is one of a guy falling off of the wtc [smjalso] it's going to be very bad econmically. [aeoespam] celica: i hate that i wish they wouldnt play it [isopod] that too. [yang] no doubt 600 a gallon allready in dayton ohio [celica] play what [celica] ? [isopod] but that's really secondary [aeoespam] the guy falling off [yang] i think it would be a sign of weakness not to rebuild the wtc 's [celica] oh, [ 11-Sep-01 21:22 ] pyrrus@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] not so. [smjalso] Perhaps strength too, to think smarter with the money. [isopod] the towers can be rebuilt, but where are we going to find the people to put baclk in all those cubiclas. [ 11-Sep-01 21:23 ] fellon@sdf has left ny. [isopod] this is insanye [ 11-Sep-01 21:23 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [smjalso] Spend all that money to build (re-build) a historical site, when instead they could use it for better things. [smjalso] nice isopod. :( [dvnt] hey, dont know if you guys heard yet, 4 buildings down now [daymon] yeah if you cant ensure that this will nevert happen again [yang] ? [smjalso] They hould spend it, rebuilding the lot (lost ) lives [pyrrus] dvnt: what's the fourth? [dvnt] 5 and 7 are down now [smj] where are people from? [smjalso] You can never assure it won't happen again [smj] USA seattle [ 11-Sep-01 21:24 ] yang@sdf has joined ny. [isis] Pennsylvania, us [daymon] Stockholm Sweden [isopod] Oregon, but I'm in Germany [ 11-Sep-01 21:25 ] bobik has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:25 ] smjalso has left ny. [dvnt] also, I heard that a lady on one of the planes had called her husband, and said that the hijackers didnt have guns, they had knives [darklady] Los Angeles, USA [ 11-Sep-01 21:25 ] smjalso@sdf has joined ny. [aeoespam] i thiknk they woklahoma usa [isopod] sure, the crews are unarmed, one doens't need much. [smjalso] Are you going to do it to me too? [pyrrus] I thought that the one in Pennsylvania crashed into a field or a forest, not a building [yang] i was wondering if they bluffed their way [dvnt] anyway, just giving an update, got to go, later.. [isopod] later [isis] It was 20 minutes east (i believe) of pittsburgh [ 11-Sep-01 21:26 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:27 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [isopod] gotta go. [ 11-Sep-01 21:28 ] isopod@sdf has left ny. [aeoespam] bleh [ 11-Sep-01 21:28 ] sergiobc@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:29 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:30 ] hub has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:30 ] smjalso has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:30 ] yang has left ny. [aeoespam] this is the most fucked up thing that has happened in my life [ 11-Sep-01 21:30 ] aeoespam@sdf has left ny. [smj] wow.. this is totally crazy. [smj] have you guys seen americanairlines.com or unitedairlines.com ? [phm] nope [isis] no [hagoth] quit [ 11-Sep-01 21:32 ] hagoth@sdf has left ny. [phm] im hungry. why? [smj] Its just imposible to imagine how sick these people are. [ 11-Sep-01 21:33 ] vos@sdf has left ny. [isis] and the people cheering them on is just amazing [cjcs] which people? The terrorists? AA / United Airlines ? [phm] what will happen in the future to humans? [smj] Don't be a dumbass corey. [cjcs] i looked at the sites...standard corporate responses? [ 11-Sep-01 21:35 ] sjhs@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:36 ] sjhs@sdf has left ny for dc. [isis] Some Palestinians in the West Bank city of Nablus handed out sweets and fired in the air to celebrate the attacks against Israel's key ally. [smj] I see. [daymon] celica.freeshell.orgcelica.freeshell.orgi have seen [daymon] hmmm [daymon] sorry [ 11-Sep-01 21:37 ] sjhs@sdf has joined ny. [smj] terrible. [cjcs] do you think AA's stock will plummet (airlines)? [smj] who gives a shit. [sjhs] see? [celica] great, now where i work... earthlink... we are havign nation wide authentication problems [smj] who fucking gives a shit about stock? [cjcs] i'm trying to comprehend all the implications of this incident, that's all smj. [cjcs] will there be more antagonism between christians and muslims, in light of the perceived involvement of bin laden? [cjcs] will tehre be more racism towards arabic people ni the US as wel? [smj] Will FORTUNE 500 gget more subscriptions because they have an advert on the CCN webpage?? [celica] yes, cjcs thwere iwll be more .... [sjhs] hopefull not (for a ll three) [celica] i am seeing it were i work [celica] -:( [celica] | :( [sjhs] irc must be loaded now [ 11-Sep-01 21:41 ] karr0t@sdf has joined ny. [karr0t] Gettgsgs [karr0t] g [sjhs] ? [karr0t] Oops. [sjhs] hello? [karr0t] I see how this works now. [sjhs] good [karr0t] I needed to turn on the echoing. [daymon] me too [daymon] i dont se wahat im typing [karr0t] It took 1/2 hour to get on the base today. [sjhs] type :echo [karr0t] The MPs have machine guns and everything. [ 11-Sep-01 21:43 ] wilde@sdf has joined ny. [daymon] test [daymon] much better [karr0t] Machine guns on Hummers, they check EVERY vehicle that goes on base. [cjcs] what base u at karr0t? [karr0t] You can't even get on base unless EVERYONE has an ID. [karr0t] Selfridge, MI [smj] who is at work today? [smj] not me. [karr0t] There were 4 people in the store, so my boss told me that I could leave. [ 11-Sep-01 21:45 ] wilde@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:45 ] atwar@sdf has joined ny. [karr0t] I work at a grocery store on base. [cjcs] I guess the NRA will get a lot of new supporters mabye? [karr0t] I took a basic safety course with them. [karr0t] I always liked the NRA. [daymon] what is NRA [karr0t] I tried to login to www.Cyberarmy.com, but only admins are allowed in now. [karr0t] National Rifle Association [daymon] Ok [cjcs] cyberarmy? [karr0t] Yup. [karr0t] Good server. [karr0t] It's a hacking site. [cjcs] oh..hehe..i thought it was some kind of U.S. army anti-computer-terrorism site. [karr0t] My dad said that if he were to die, he wouldn't regret it for the country. [ 11-Sep-01 21:49 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [karr0t] He's going to be a Chief on Saturday (if they get to it). [karr0t] Type in :echo to see your text... [cjcs] Access to /zebulun has been suspended while a security breach is [cjcs] investigated. This may take some time, as staff currently have the [cjcs] incidents in New York and Washington on their minds. [cjcs] We apologise for any inconvienience. [cjcs] -- CinC. Chawmp [karr0t] Yup. [cjcs] the "hacker's site" got hacked? [karr0t] I don't know. The gov. shut them down once. [cjcs] is cyberarmy.cmo a government site or just a hacker group site? [celica] cool [karr0t] Just a hacker group site. [cjcs] My Parents probably think the end of the world is coming soon (thye're Jehovahs WItnesses) [karr0t] Oh. [karr0t] My page is @ http://home.cyberarmy.com/karr0t/ [karr0t] Yup. [ 11-Sep-01 21:54 ] nonkels@sdf has joined ny. [cjcs] you created an artificial karr0t to chat to? weird. [karr0t] Ummm... K, bye. [ 11-Sep-01 21:55 ] schnibbe@sdf has joined ny. [karr0t] Yup. [ 11-Sep-01 21:55 ] nonkels@sdf has left ny. [karr0t] See ya'll. [schnibbe] quit [ 11-Sep-01 21:55 ] karr0t@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:56 ] pyrrus@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:56 ] atwar@sdf has left ny. [schnibbe] ? [schnibbe] help [schnibbe] exit [schnibbe] com [schnibbe] <> [schnibbe] ?# [schnibbe] How can I leave ? [jeeves] schnibbe, use : before your commands [isis] type :quit [ 11-Sep-01 21:58 ] cjcs@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:58 ] schnibbe@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 21:59 ] neopipil@sdf has joined ny. [phm] byee [ 11-Sep-01 21:59 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 22:00 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey, I was misinformed a while ago, its not 4 buildings down, its 3.. sorry [sjhs] 4 if you count the pentagon [dvnt] anyway, ttru.. [sjhs] but it's not totally collapsed [ 11-Sep-01 22:02 ] gms@sdf has joined ny. [neopipil] World Trade Center 1 [isis] goto dc [neopipil] World Trade Center 2 and World Trade Center 7 have collapsed...all are fairly large buildings [dvnt] w:echo [ 11-Sep-01 22:02 ] isis@sdf has left ny for dc. [ 11-Sep-01 22:02 ] sjhs@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] watching a lot of explosions in afghanistan right now [ 11-Sep-01 22:03 ] isis@sdf has joined ny. [celica] cyberarmy.cmothats almost 300 floors [ 11-Sep-01 22:03 ] rpelkey@sdf has joined ny. [celica] ? [jyunyakb] [C:who [ 11-Sep-01 22:04 ] sjhs@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] what explosians? [jyunyakb] hi smj [ 11-Sep-01 22:05 ] ecf has left ny. [smj] hi [neopipil] hi [smj] How is japan taking this? [neopipil] I work at the world tarde center [smj] my friends called me.. they're freaked out. [sjhs] not anymore you don't [jyunyakb] i saw the news that was so terrible [neopipil] or worked [neopipil] I was on my way to work [neopipil] when it happended [darklady] [B:quit [ 11-Sep-01 22:05 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [neopipil] I watched the building s on fire from NJ [smj] neopipil.. I'm glad you are safe. [gms] 'Twas a good day to be late to work, eh neopipil? [neopipil] thanks, being late to work saved my life [jyunyakb] there were so many peple [neopipil] very good day [neopipil] I overslept [smj] this is really sick. [jyunyakb] i have to go Tokyo by plane today [sjhs] neo--have you hears anything about nj water? [gms] What's sick? Terrorism or how we talk abou tit? [isis] http://www.morganstanley.com/ <- wow, that is so important. [kalensr] Hello all.. [neopipil] what about nj water? [celica] afghanistan is being bombed right now! [kalensr] Have you all heard about the missles in afgan.. (spll) [sjhs] is it ok? if u haven't hearad anything then i guess it is [celica] no one knows who is doing it [smj] really? [smj] who is bombing afghanistan? [celica] i say GOOD! [celica] who cares! [ 11-Sep-01 22:10 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [celica] i hope there is nothing left of afg... [ak1ra] they've started hammering them... [ak1ra] before they even know they did it... [isis] celica, why? [smj] we're going to war. [gms] Think war will help the economy? [ak1ra] do you agree with that war smj? [kalensr] I am watching cnn live satalite, with live feed to sfgan, i does not appear to be the US, but noone knows at the moment..(or are saying they know) [smj] Oh in Kabul! [isis] oh definitely [smj] The bombing is in kabul afghanisan. [ak1ra] my mother is in th eregion ... on some U.S navy ship... i hope to goodness she doesnt get involved [ 11-Sep-01 22:12 ] nonkels@sdf has joined ny. [smj] It looks like the taliban is the target. [ak1ra] the taliban are oppressive [smj] extremely. [ 11-Sep-01 22:13 ] nonkels@sdf has left ny for dc. [ak1ra] they treat women like they are worse than shit [ak1ra] you can get shot for having ure beard too short... [ 11-Sep-01 22:13 ] nonkels@sdf has joined ny. [isis] aren't they also responsible for destroying all the buddhas because they were 'idols'? [sjhs] there seems to be a com split here... can we move to 'crisis' to unite 'nj' and 'dc'? [ak1ra] women get baten to death for showing an inch of flesh [sjhs] s/nj/ny [ak1ra] ehud barak is on UK tv... [ 11-Sep-01 22:15 ] djm62 has left ny. [sjhs] nm [nonkels] is kabul being bombed ?? [smj] yes. [sjhs] it sounds like it [neopipil] can anyone confirm this? [smj] Yes. bbc news. [ak1ra] there is sporadic gunfire and from what i've heard cruise missiles are landing [ak1ra] the gunfire is probably trying to shoot down the missiles [sjhs] just a wild guess: could it be israel? [ak1ra] it saddens me that the U.S are rushing into this... [sjhs] showing its support for us? [smj] oh. [smj] maybe so? [sjhs] i'm probably wrong. i hope so [daymon] what s going on... [ak1ra] lotsa shit man, where u been all day [sjhs] afganistan is being bombed [daymon] ive seen it... [gms] Afgan bombing http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/wl/crash_afghanistan_dc_1.html [gms] (That's supposed to be supporting evidence.) [kalensr] It does not appear to be the US.. according to live CNN satalite.. [ak1ra] at the moment i'm seeing pics of the night sky in kabul with tracer bullets and explosions lighting it up [ak1ra] like in bhagdad during th egulf [daymon] is the US bombing ? [sjhs] i doubt the us gov't would try to do something like that without telling people [ak1ra] Richard perle is on his high horse on BBC tv... [nonkels] didn't taliban gave a statement earlier ? [isis] "The BBC deeply regrets the decision of the Taleban authorities to ask its Kabul correspondent, Kate Clark, to leave. " [sjhs] taliban said they couldn't possibly have done it [gms] Taliban said bin Laden didn't do it. [ak1ra] hell people always tell the bbc to get out whenever something happens take zimbabwe for example [kalensr] I hear this could be a result of the on going civil wars there.. [smj] bin laden warned of such an act three weeks ago though. [sjhs] afk [ak1ra] whatever it is the attacks on NY and DC are the catalyst [kalensr] [gms] True. Could be Taliban playing an ... [gms] "Our man is innocent" card. [smj] of course. twisted words. [smj] he didn't do it.. he is afgahnsian. [ 11-Sep-01 22:21 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] well when i wake up tomorrow... i think something major will be underway... [ak1ra] smj, are you stillin that band? [ 11-Sep-01 22:22 ] jlyger@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Did your band have anything to do with bombing the WTC? [smj] it was two planes. [ak1ra] i dont have a band foo [sjhs] bak [kalensr] Ohh.. I hear the the taliban's oppossion was killed just yesterday in a deliberate bombing, [kalensr] This could be retaliation against the talibans (excuse the spelling) [ 11-Sep-01 22:23 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] i think thats the spelling [ak1ra] does anyone here use SSH? [daymon] i do [jlyger] yes [nociasso] yes [gms] t [ 11-Sep-01 22:24 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] it's just abetter shell... i dont really care about the encryption... [sjhs] go'i [sjhs] na go'i [ak1ra] ??? [sjhs] ignore that [ak1ra] you just felt like typing something right? [smj] bbc sai dthat attacks at kabul were not ours. [smj] (not the US') [smj] most likely israeli? [smj] missle atacks.. [ak1ra] oh well, statements about US being so hasty are duly withdrawn [sjhs] is that official supposition or just my supposition? :) [smj] official [sjhs] uh-oh [smj] I don't think the US would act so quickly. [gms] Didn't Bush Sr do some kind of surprise attack? I don't mean Gulf War. [gms] Something else, if memory serves. [gms] Or was it Clinton? [gms] (Damn modern, supeer-short memory). [ak1ra] clinton rocks, bring him back! [sjhs] eh close enough [smj] regan. [smj] reagan [sjhs] Ronald Reagan [gms] Regan did October Surprise, right? [nociasso] what is bbc's sight [ak1ra] dont smoke so much pot it ruins your memory [gms] But didn't Bush Sr order an attack, then tell the ppl about it [nociasso] are they still broadcasting on TLC [gms] while it was under way? [nociasso] site [smj] So you know the SSB fell too? 47 story. [sjhs] smj: if we do know the id of the attackers, we WOULD act quicly (or at least bush would) [isis] ssb? [sjhs] ss building [ak1ra] yeah hear dthat too [smj] salomon smith barney [isis] oh [gms] Social Security building? [gms] Yeah! [sjhs] oh [sjhs] nooo! [gms] Solomon Smith Barney. Sorry. [sjhs] that's alright, as long as there were no people [gms] (Social Security is better, though.) [ak1ra] they'll probably have to demolish some other structures before people can go back there [sjhs] in it [ak1ra] there is some former secretary of state up his own arse on the BBC [sjhs] eh, what's one little island anyhow? the majority of the city is still intact, and people can life in NJ for the time being. [jlyger] cnn reporting more explosions in afghanistan now [dvnt] they could have at least picked the credit bureaus.. [ak1ra] cnn are cool [sjhs] wwiii? [ak1ra] they are the only decent US channel we get here... [smj] yep, this is wwIII [ak1ra] hardly [ak1ra] where are the nukes [jlyger] doubtful [smj] No, its that start. [smj] WWIII doesn't need nukes [ak1ra] might as well top myself now then ^_^ [sjhs] nukes are oldschool [nociasso] in a matter of months it will be [smj] the whole middle east is going up in flames. [isis] biological weapons. [smj] thats right.. it won't be today. [smj] maybe tonight. [gms] Not WW3. A tidy little war that'll improve the economy. [sjhs] Can't We All Just Get Along?!?! [daymon] nuclear and biological wepon shouldnt exist [jlyger] calling the afgh strikes "ongoing civil war" and not related [ak1ra] here here [sjhs] DAMN THE ECONOMY! [ak1ra] sj the economy matters, when the US economy goes down it takes everyone else with it [smj] well, I'm saying that the world war will be hosteedd in the middle east. [nociasso] everyone in the world is either upset or happy about this catastrophy. [smj] true [nociasso] sounds like WWIII to me [sjhs] It had to happen [smj] yes. [jlyger] gas prices going up about 150% in US tonight [gms] It wasn't unexpected. [gms] Or shouldn't have been. [daymon] the palistinians are truly happy... i saw that on TV [sjhs] it was unexpected. [ak1ra] someformer US politician is trying to force people to take sides on BBC one now [smj] I think all anti-americans are happy. [ak1ra] I'm not happy [sjhs] but no one knew when or where the "big terrorist strike" would happen [isis] I wish I was canadian. heh [sjhs] that's a safe supposition [ak1ra] but im' not totally anti american either [ak1ra] i think the american people are on the whole very good people [sjhs] the converse is not necessarily true [ 11-Sep-01 22:35 ] tchotcho has left ny. [nociasso] converse all-stars? [sjhs] regarding the "all anti-americans are happy" [ak1ra] I dont appreciate the U.S govt imposing itself on the rest of the world like it doesnt matter [sjhs] i don't appreciate it either, and i live here [dvnt] hey we went through all that earlier already.. [sjhs] yeah [smj] well, tony blair is saying that the UK will fight just as hard as we will.. [ak1ra] we will [sjhs] but will we fight? [ak1ra] and we will get attacked too [smj] I hope so. [ak1ra] SMJ i thought you were against war? [sjhs] 60sII? [kalensr] uuhhmmm??? [smj] I am, but I don't idly stand by when people do something this inhumane. [gms] He is, but he knows it'll be good for the economy. [jlyger] makes no sense to attack a country because of a possible terrorist faction [smj] yes, war is money. [dvnt] tru smj [smj] god! [ak1ra] Blair just fancies himself as another Winston Churchill [gms] jlyger: Could some countries have a terrorist policy? [smj] Hav eyou guys hear Tony Blair's speech? [sjhs] no [isis] no [smj] I love the words he chooses. [gms] nil [daymon] yes [jlyger] policy? yes. [ak1ra] I can;t wait to see him with a fat cigar hanging out of his mouth giving the V symbol [jlyger] faction <> policy [smj] driving EVIL from our world. [sjhs] i'm not privelaged enough to get bbc news, i barely get any local news cause most ny stations are out [sjhs] verison? [ak1ra] their acts of barbarism will be the cause of their shame for al eternity... gimme a break tony [nociasso] they are broadcasting BBC on TLC [sjhs] i have not cable [nociasso] is the speech on the web? [ak1ra] www.number10.gov.uk [smj] it was just brocastsed on the bbc chpage. [ak1ra] www.fco.gov.uk [ak1ra] should be of some use [sjhs] ok [sjhs] heh.. it wants to s3et a cookie [sjhs] afk [nonkels] they have a realaudio stream [nonkels] but i didn't heard blair's speech tough [smj] Its excellent. [nociasso] can you explain where it is on the site? [ak1ra] Tony cracks me up... [ak1ra] http://www.pm.gov.uk/news.asp?NewsId=2541 [ak1ra] there you go m8 [nociasso] cheers [sjhs] bak [ak1ra] there seems to be a statement from donald rumsfeld coming out now [ak1ra] some general with a funny southern accent is talking now [ 11-Sep-01 22:46 ] pirata23@sdf has joined ny. [gms] General Sheldon (?), they just said on NPR. [gms] I think they said he's giving his speech from the Pentagon (!?) [ak1ra] there are a lot of DoD suits talking now [ 11-Sep-01 22:47 ] esmith@sdf has joined ny. [nociasso] oh. i saw the last part of the speech on tv. [nociasso] it's good [smj] "make no mistake about it, your armed forces are ready" [smj] we're going to war. [ak1ra] I cant be bothered going to school tomorrow [pirata23] jaja [ak1ra] i think i'll stay and watch the fireworks [nociasso] what about drafting? [gms] "Our unity is palpable"? Did he say that? [ak1ra] he said that their unity is keeping them together [smj] palpable. yes [gms] Does this mean Ds and Rs will no longer call each other crooks? [dvnt] drafting may happen.. [ 11-Sep-01 22:49 ] pirata23@sdf has left ny. [gms] To draft is daft. [ak1ra] do you mean conscriptipon [daymon] bye.. gotta go to sleep [gms] They won't draft. [smj] I'm sure there will be a draft.. STEP FORWARD. [ak1ra] join the navy [ak1ra] it's better [smj] I'll fight. [dvnt] I have a friend from work who called out of work today because he's in the reserves.. [gms] I was in the navy. I t sucked. [smj] send me to the middle east. [gms] smj, you're too old to draft. [smj] I want an ak47 and a f18 [isis] I'll send you toothpaste smj [ak1ra] i'll only join the navy if they'll take me as an officer [ak1ra] which is unlikely ^_^ [dvnt] DID YOU ORDER A CODE RED?? [gms] They won't feed you vegetarian meals. [sjhs] OVERREACTION [dvnt] YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH [ 11-Sep-01 22:50 ] rbmills@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] LOL my dad was in the USN he got trouble from his commanders for beign vegitarian [smj] I don't need to eat. [daymon] haha [ 11-Sep-01 22:51 ] esmith@sdf has left ny. [nociasso] get fed by malice [gms] Food is highly over rated. [ak1ra] i'll join the british armed forces if they start to conscript [smj] extremely. [smj] I haven't needed food since Friday's dinner. [ 11-Sep-01 22:51 ] digzober@sdf has joined ny. [rbmills] help [dvnt] besides, MRE's arent really 'food'... [digzober] hi [gms] My mother swould shit if she knew I didn't eat. [ak1ra] your mothers??? ^_^ [digzober] hehahaha [gms] Yeah, all three of them. [digzober] hey anyone in here knows umm where i can get a free mud host? [ 11-Sep-01 22:52 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [smj] digzober, go away. [digzober] why? [ak1ra] this isnt the time or the place for the discussion of computers matey, theres a war on you know ^_^ [digzober] if i can get it for free why pay? [smj] Stop spamming ehre! [digzober] seriously specially when u don't have the money [ak1ra] dman i've run out of beer [digzober] how am i spamming [ 11-Sep-01 22:53 ] sjhs@sdf has left ny for help. [dvnt] oh man, back to the berr again! haha! [ 11-Sep-01 22:53 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] beer. [gms] Where is splitrock.net, digzober? [ 11-Sep-01 22:53 ] digzober@sdf has joined ny. [digzober] well i was here to say one thing to you [digzober] can i get to be an arpha? [ 11-Sep-01 22:54 ] sjhs@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] it might be the last bottle before the pressgangs are out to force me to join the navy ^_^ [smj] digzober, this is not the time nor the forum for that discussion. GO AWEAY. [ 11-Sep-01 22:54 ] rbmills@sdf has left ny. [digzober] i wanted to donate to become one [ 11-Sep-01 22:54 ] horst@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] join #apathy [jyunyakb] [C[C:who [gms] Are you in TeXaS, digzober? [digzober] smj god tell me what did i do??!?!? [digzober] nope [smj] DIGZOBER, USE EMAIL! [jyunyakb] i will go tokyo [smj] now shutup. [digzober] sorry i am kind of new to this thing [ak1ra] digzober there is a war on this is serious shit man [gms] Give me 49 more guesses. I know I can guess where you are. [digzober] i already know [digzober] don't mean we all have to be sad!!! [dvnt] lol gms [digzober] or crying [ 11-Sep-01 22:55 ] jcast@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] he's in nunavut canada [ak1ra] LOL [digzober] i am in new mexico [ak1ra] doh [jyunyakb] bye smj [digzober] and i think we can be hit here too [ 11-Sep-01 22:56 ] daymon@sdf has left ny. [sergiobc] i am in mexico [smj] He is in new mexico. [digzober] since we got all these nuclerar bombs here right? [ak1ra] what is there do plough planes into there [jyunyakb] i want a safe trip to tokyo [sjhs] yeah, i guess you CAN be hit :) [digzober] heh that would suck [digzober] they told us to leave college today [gms] Will all this stuff today let Bush get his missile defense shield going? [digzober] no clew [smj] I bet. [ak1ra] it's all because of that crazy stuff [dvnt] probably [sergiobc] s:help [ak1ra] that this is happening [gms] Does anyone (other than Bush) think a MDS will actually work? [digzober] well i am leaving since smj is taking crap out on me :( [ak1ra] NO [ 11-Sep-01 22:57 ] jcast@sdf has left ny. [sjhs] cya [ak1ra] digzober stay and discuss the war it's fun [sjhs] its nothing personal [isis] bye digzober. [ak1ra] damn [gms] "No" to the MDS? Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one. [digzober] heh i know but u guys i g2g [smj] digzober: use email! [sjhs] bye [dvnt] later [sjhs] luckily congress isn't in session to declare wat [digzober] email for what? [sjhs] war [ak1ra] I wish i had mnore beer [dvnt] me too. [gms] Bush Sr didn't wait for Congress to declare war. [ak1ra] what on panama? [digzober] roll my eyes in disgust [ak1ra] what was serious shit [digzober] jk [digzober] bye guys [gms] Panama or Persian Gulf. [ 11-Sep-01 22:59 ] digzober@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] bye dig [sjhs] oy [ak1ra] panama was wierd [sjhs] what a day [ak1ra] manual noreaga [isis] vey [sjhs] imagine if we turn out to have declared war in the same day we were attacked! [ak1ra] who are you declaring wa ron exactly!!! [sjhs] that's a good question [ak1ra] i know [sjhs] it seems its o.b.l. [smj] well, the speech is just within the hour. [ak1ra] oh man i gotta stay up another hour... [smj] I'm sure it is someone on our list.. [gms] Can you declare war on an individual? [dvnt] tru, unless someone comes out and provides evidence that they did it, thats not gonna ever happen.. [ak1ra] then im on the phone to the navy to enroll [smj] most groups that hate the US are tracked. [smj] or known.. I doubt this is some new unknown group. [sjhs] the gov't might already know the culprit [ak1ra] it would be cool if bin ladin had an account on SADF [smj] right and they could be their funding brom bin laden, or another place.. [ak1ra] SDF even [sjhs] no it wouldn't [smj] he does. [smj] finger binladen [ak1ra] did he send in his arpa fee [sjhs] you're harboring terrorists! [ak1ra] ^_^ [smj] no. [dvnt] they have some communication interceptions that are giving them an idea of who it might be, but they arent saying yet.. [ak1ra] you're funded by terrorists [smj] he was going to sign up for a VHOST. [ 11-Sep-01 23:02 ] hub@sdf has joined ny. [sjhs] oy [smj] but he couldn't get anyone to register his domain: TERRORISM.COM [hub] heya [dvnt] hahaha! finger binladen.. haha [sjhs] hi [ak1ra] jolyjihad.org.uk [ak1ra] seriously though i can tbelieve this is happening [nonkels] same here akira [sjhs] all because of 4 (dead) ppl... [ak1ra] if oyu came up to me yesterday and said this was going to happen i would have laughed [gms] 4 dead ppl? [sjhs] 4 -> 10,000 -+ war [ak1ra] i think more in the region of 3000 [sjhs] 4 terrorists [gms] What are the estimates on how many were killed? I've heard everything from 2,000 to 60,000. [sjhs] we can't take revenge on them [ak1ra] sure you can [sjhs] (the dead terrorists) [ak1ra] you always do [nonkels] how ? [ 11-Sep-01 23:05 ] jlyger has left ny. [sjhs] what, bury them in a christian cemetary for spite? [ak1ra] ah... you'll regenerate them somehow and beat the crap outta them [nonkels] nuke a country ? and kill innocent ppl [ak1ra] OL SJ classic [sjhs] oh wait, nothin to bury... :( [hub] yeah, don't put Bush in a bunker with a little red button! [sjhs] oy [ak1ra] he hasnt got th ebraincells to knbow how to useis [ak1ra] it [sjhs] south manhattan is being evacuated [ 11-Sep-01 23:07 ] isopod@sdf has joined ny. [isis] hola isopod [isopod] howdy ho [ak1ra] que pasa [nonkels] so who bombed kabul ??? [ak1ra] wow i cant speak spanish and i managed to say that ^_^ [isopod] asi asi [sjhs] i'm going to try to relax, bye [dvnt] later [ 11-Sep-01 23:08 ] sjhs@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] join the army sj [smj] I am.. .DARFT ME. [isopod] darft? [dvnt] haha [ak1ra] vxcvkjaelhrkjglhfkjgdkfjglhsdf [isopod] draft [isopod] okay [ak1ra] i'll go into the USN just to make sure my mum's ok [ 11-Sep-01 23:09 ] pyrrus@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] join the SEALs ak1ra [ak1ra] nah the Royal Marines are better [ak1ra] lets not go there [dvnt] how bout SAS then? [gms] Is there still a Black Watch? Could you join them? [ak1ra] jeezuz [ak1ra] I could join the black watch [gms] You could wear a kilt. [ak1ra] they are based about 20 miles away from here in ardesier [gms] Do you have nice legs? [ak1ra] hell yes [dvnt] hahaha [kalensr] exit [ak1ra] the black watch live in an old fort made to keep the jacobite rebels out after the unification of scotland and england [ak1ra] just thought ud like to know [dvnt] thanks man [ 11-Sep-01 23:12 ] ldd@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] they got loads of cannons and shit there [nonkels] when will bush jr give his statement ? [ 11-Sep-01 23:12 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Anyone have news on bombing Afgan? I can't find anything new online, & I just have a radio with me, no TV. [rte] can anyone tell me what the hell happened thisa morning?? [ 11-Sep-01 23:13 ] sergiobc@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] gee duhbya? in about an hour [rte] excuse my ignorance but i'm in australia [rte] i have just woken up [dvnt] they were showing that bombing quite a bit, but theres some old guy on.. [gms] Two planes crashed into World Trade Center. Both towers collapsed. [gms] Plane crashed into Pentagon, too. [gms] All were hijacked. [rte] shit [gms] http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ts/ap/?u [pyrrus] and a fourth crashed into a forest [ak1ra] NP rte no doubt the RANwill be involved in the upcoming WW3 we are discussing [pyrrus] probably a failed hijacking attempt [nonkels] nah [ak1ra] can british citizens join th eaustralian defence forces? [gms] A lot of people didn't go to work today. They even shut down our company for the day. (And we're on the west coast.) [rte] i dont know [ 11-Sep-01 23:15 ] hub has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:15 ] kalensr has left ny. [gms] ak1ra is considering a career in the armed forces. [gms] That's about it. [ak1ra] seems fair seeing as we share a head of state [rte] this is shit house [gms] rte, You're listening to a good DJ ("shit house")? [rte] i know the ozzie prime minister is going to back the states if any thing happens [ak1ra] no offence mate but i dont like that guy [nonkels] that's a relief [rte] neither do i [ak1ra] he wont let the poor afghans into his country ^_^ [ak1ra] mabye they'll bomb you too for it [gms] Oh yeah, & someone is bombing Afganistan, but no one will 'fes up. [nonkels] so WHO bombed kabul ???? [dvnt] dont know.. [rte] i'm not listening to any dj, i'm just sick to death of the f--k sticks always trying to create hostility...the middle easterns! [ak1ra] too right mate [ak1ra] do you eatch neighbours? [nonkels] the saudis or israeli ? [ak1ra] watch even [horst] /msg ... [rte] nah i dont watch neighbours [ak1ra] neighbours rocks [dvnt] guy on cnn giving up the summary on all the events of today.. [nonkels] fuck neighbours [rte] i dont know who it is specifically but all i hear about is hostility and fighting in that area and i am really sick of it [gms] neighbours == "Good Neighbors" with Felicity Kendall? [ak1ra] they say that the panes were hijacked wit just knives ho wcrappy is that [horst] some group said they bombed afganistan... [ak1ra] nah, holly valance [ak1ra] she's one hell of afox [horst] some rebel group... not sure who it was though [dvnt] where? [nonkels] horst = some group [gms] Holly Valance or Felicity Kendall is a fox? [ak1ra] valance dammit [horst] northern something rebels... [ak1ra] http://www.army.mod.uk/blackwatch/index.html [gms] Haven't seen Valance. [dvnt] Iyeah and where do I see her? [ak1ra] she;s an absolute shag m8 [ak1ra] you have to watch neighbours [horst] can't remember... will watch and let you k kjnow if it comes up again... [rte] i'm watching tv now...they are showing the towers falling [rte] that is so crap [horst] stayd up most of the nioght watching it... I';m down under as well... [ 11-Sep-01 23:20 ] ldd has left ny. [dvnt] crazy right? ... [ak1ra] join th e black watch???http://www.army.mod.uk/blackwatch/recruitment.HTM [horst] bit tired now, only had a couple of hours sleep... [gms] Holly Valance, ypu a fox [ak1ra] you get 980 quid a month [gms] http://www.celebritypalace.com/cgi-bin/gallery/show.cgi?Pic=hv1002.jpg&cat=6&page=1 [nonkels] any good live video feeds somewhere ? [ak1ra] dont be silly [dvnt] how much is 980 quid? [isis] http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/bs/markets_stocks_dc_3339.html [ak1ra] in buxks [dvnt] yeah [ak1ra] 1666 bucks [ak1ra] at 1.7 bucks to the pound [gms] 1666 -> fire of London [ak1ra] shit man thats a bad omen [ak1ra] is that suppoed to have something to do with the devil then [gms] Just wait for the exchange rate to change, & it won't be an omen any more. [horst] they need lots of blood... [dvnt] gms are you a historian, or just remember that specific date? [phm] it was 1066! [ak1ra] me too i'm a goth LOL [gms] Random association. I think it's correc,t thought. [ak1ra] 1066 wasnt that the battle of hastings? [gms] No, 1066 was when William the Conqueror invaded Britain. [gms] Or founded Britain, by invading it. [dvnt] beer drinking goth.. [ak1ra] damn that saxon bastard [ 11-Sep-01 23:24 ] nonkels@sdf has left ny. [gms] You Scotish, ak1ra? [ak1ra] i'm not really a goth, im a punk but just not so full of apathy about stidd [ak1ra] yes i be scottish [horst] 2 [ak1ra] stidd=stuff if you arent drunk [gms] I like Inverness. Been stranded in Glascow. Spent a few months in Edinburgh & Leith. Liked Leith a lot, though I'm told I'm not supposed to. [dvnt] htought so.. [ak1ra] Glasgow is scary, I always feel like i'm gonna get killed every time i go down there [ 11-Sep-01 23:26 ] nonkels@sdf has joined ny. [gms] About today's terrorism: Interesting that no group has claimed responsibility. [ 11-Sep-01 23:27 ] nonkels@sdf has left ny for dc. [gms] Used to, didn't some group nearly always claim responsibility for some act of terrorism? [gms] Didn't a lot of groups often claim responsibility for the same act? [ 11-Sep-01 23:27 ] jagronow@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Today, nobody is taking the credit. [ 11-Sep-01 23:28 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [pyrrus] I'm not suprised [ak1ra] man i got discon [pyrrus] US would retaliate [ 11-Sep-01 23:28 ] nonkels@sdf has joined ny. [gms] I just heard some analysts on NPR saying we still don't know who to retaliate against. [jagronow] KU [ak1ra] the yanks would be really mad if anyone really did claim responsibility [pyrrus] right, and that'w why no one is coming forward [smj] well, who ever it is is reveling. [smj] revelling. [pyrrus] Claiming responsibility would be like holding up a sign that says blast me bacck into the stoneage" [smj] basking in their own juices. [ak1ra] whats revelling? [gms] Probably. It would be just too easy if someone took credit. We'd know who to call an antichrist & anti-democracy & all that. [smj] umm, enjoying it? [gms] (I'm being kinda cynical, I hope it shows.) [ 11-Sep-01 23:30 ] jagronow has left ny. [ak1ra] i thought marylin manson was th eantichrist [dvnt] smj, have you heard anything about when flights might continue out of seatac? [smj] No. [smj] probably not until after tomorrow. [gms] Some parent s think so. Or maybe Marylin thinks so. But politicians usually point to other countries to be antichrists. [gms] It's allrelative. [ak1ra] seattle is cool, they have a cool baseball tewam and a neat tower [ 11-Sep-01 23:31 ] wm@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] and thats where the guy lives in wargames [ 11-Sep-01 23:31 ] hoyosa@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Commuting on a ferry sucks, though. [ 11-Sep-01 23:31 ] chris02@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Don't let anyone tell you different. [dvnt] yeah I miss seattle, I left just before the new stadium got finished [gms] New stadium is ugly. [chris02] isn't this a devistation? [dvnt] is it? ha ha got a friend supposed to be coming down here to see me the day after tomorrow [chris02] oh my god, when will the violence end? [ak1ra] i wonder if anyone in america cares about baseball right now [dvnt] thats why I asked about seatac [chris02] on our own soil?! What's next, nuclear attacks?! [dvnt] I havent cared about baseball for a couple years.. [ak1ra] shit !!! mlb.com says all baseball matches are suspended this terribel! [chris02] hanyway, peace pp| [ 11-Sep-01 23:34 ] jig@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] they'll never get th eseason finsihed by sep 28th [ak1ra] damn those arabs [dvnt] could spend my money for tickets on beer.. [ 11-Sep-01 23:35 ] chris02 has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:35 ] hoyosa has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:35 ] rpelkey has left ny. [ak1ra] good idea [dvnt] thought you would appreciate that [ak1ra] ^_^ [gms] They just interviewed a guy on the radio. He's named falice. (Yes, I have a juvenile sense of humor, right now at least.) [ak1ra] purile humor is good for u [ 11-Sep-01 23:37 ] demonola@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] why the hell did i just spell humour wrong -_- [ 11-Sep-01 23:37 ] sallyh@sdf has joined ny. [gms] You were American for a brief moment. [dvnt] definitley. you dont lose your sense of humor because you get older, you get older because you lose your sense of humor. [gms] ak1ra LOL [ak1ra] dvnt: i agree wholeheartedly [smj] gms, I'm talking to my dad. [ak1ra] does anyone here think i should go to school tomorrow? [gms] smj, sorry. Call or talk when you're done. [gms] What grade are you in? [gms] Well,no. [gms] Regardless of grade. [ak1ra] i'm in my last year of high school [gms] Is British high school like US high school? [ak1ra] do you ever feel opressed in america not being allowed to drink beer when ure yong [ak1ra] im 17 yesterday [gms] I was just gonna ask if you were old enough to drink beer legally. (So yes, I feel appressed about the booze lawss.) [gms] Americans are not responsible about booze. Come's from restricting it until you are 21. [ak1ra] well... i have a year to go... but i have liberal folks ^_^ [ 11-Sep-01 23:42 ] pyrrus@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:43 ] isopod@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] you have to be 18 to buy'intoxicating liquor' in this country [jig] suppose having 21 drinking laws prevents clubs being full of 15 year olds like in the uk [ak1ra] I dont go to clubs -_- [ak1ra] a club in my city got shut down because they were letting under 18s in [gms] US clubs are full of 21 yr olds who act like 15 yr olds. [jig] heyh [ak1ra] they sound like very interesting people [ 11-Sep-01 23:45 ] demonola has left ny. [jig] u only have to be 12 to drink in france i think [ak1ra] www.boddingtons.com damn good English bitter [ak1ra] accross europe drinking is no big deal... in spain it';s 15 [phm] ki yd [ 11-Sep-01 23:46 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:47 ] bronwen@sdf has joined ny. [smj] did you sleep bronwen? [bronwen] yeah [bronwen] i had a dream that my trousers disappeared [ak1ra] hell in the netherlandsthe legal age of consent is 12 [bronwen] but it was kay because every one else's trousers were gone too [dvnt] lol bronwen [bronwen] makes a change from the nightmartes I'd been having [ 11-Sep-01 23:48 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] i thought I was going to have more after what happened [dvnt] nightmares suck. had them everynight when I was young.. [smj] you know what I realised. [smj] this statement by the taliban? [horst] /q [smj] is extremely ironic. [dvnt] ? [bronwen] so it's the taliban? [smj] They say "the children of afganistan feel your pain' [ 11-Sep-01 23:50 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [nonkels] "we feel the pain of the ameriacn ppl" [bronwen] ahhh [smj] the taliban murders children and women everyday. [dvnt] tru [nonkels] for real [smj] This won't be in courts.. [bronwen] thats why i was pissed that we sent those boat ppl away [smj] It better not be.. unless the courts are battle fields. [ 11-Sep-01 23:52 ] sacate@sdf has joined ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:52 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] i can't see how something of this scale can be resolved legally [bronwen] i mean by the legal system [nonkels] it has to be a well organised military organisation [ 11-Sep-01 23:52 ] sirron@sdf has joined ny. [sacate] /exit [bronwen] try :quit [dvnt] use colon.. [nonkels] well organised = goverment run [ 11-Sep-01 23:54 ] loling@sdf has joined ny. [smj] Its still brute force. [loling] nonkels [smj] so, its not highly technical. [ 11-Sep-01 23:54 ] matt808@sdf has joined ny. [nonkels] atleast no chemical warfare [loling] you think like i do [ 11-Sep-01 23:54 ] sirron@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:55 ] sacate@sdf has left ny. [loling] i bet bush did it tfor a reason [dvnt] if I were a government backing a terrorist attack, I would deny it to prevent a conterattack too, so that I could get in some more attacks before it becomes obvious.. [ 11-Sep-01 23:56 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] *shudder* [loling] its just wicked fucked up [dvnt] that about sums it up [loling] 4 planes [loling] 20,00 sum odd people [loling] 20,000* [smj] A lot of people have contacted us wanting to know Jello Biafra's thoughts on the terrorist attack : [bronwen] did the crashed one end up being involved then? [smj] " I am afraid of the huge wave of repression and racism against Arab-americans and mass slaughter and acts of war against civilians in middle eastern countries." [nonkels] but bush star wars program is useless in such situations... [smj] Jello Biafra [smj] I wish jello would think more before he rides the party line. [nonkels] didn't he became a hacktivist now ? [smj] I guess. [loling] ***unknown explosions occuring in afganistan [loling] wonder who that could be... [smj] Its their civil war. [nonkels] saudis maybe ? [loling] you dont think we had anything to do with the explosions [bronwen] more statues of buddha being blown up? [nonkels] hehe [loling] snj [bronwen] not funny [dvnt] I heard that the 4th hijacked plane was shot down by US fighter jets before it could get to where it was going,but news reports about that are being censored [nonkels] there none left i supppose [loling] m* [bronwen] that sounds like wishful thinking [loling] /list [bronwen] how long was it after the first crashes when that plane went down? [ 12-Sep-01 00:00 ] chef084@sdf has joined ny. [loling] send smj hey [sallyh] talk tyr [dvnt] the 4th one? I dont know, I got that info because im on the pynews egroup.. [dvnt] spynews [bronwen] *nods* [nonkels] will there be a media blackout u suppose ? [ 11-Sep-01 00:01 ] sallyh@sdf has left ny. [smj] of what? [bronwen] i thought it seemed like it had all happened too quickly [nonkels] like in the gulf [bronwen] for a fiighter to shoot it down [ 12-Sep-01 00:01 ] sallyh@sdf has joined ny. [loling] elm [ 11-Sep-01 00:02 ] loling@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:02 ] loling@sdf has joined ny. [loling] hey [loling] why cant i check my mail [bronwen] hey [bronwen] have you tried pine? [loling] elm [ 12-Sep-01 00:03 ] loling@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:04 ] chef084@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:04 ] sallyh@sdf has left ny. [nonkels] is bush jr havin his statement in an hour or so ? [gms] in 25 mins, methinks. [ 12-Sep-01 00:05 ] spqr@sdf has joined ny. [smj] at 5:30pst? [ 12-Sep-01 00:06 ] loling@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey check this out, [dvnt] The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) has [dvnt] reportedly claimed responsibility for the attacks on the World [dvnt] Trade Center. This report, fromm a television station in Abu [dvnt] Dhabi, in unconfirmed. [gms] Yup. 8:30 PM PDT. If memory serves. [gms] I mean 8:30 PM EDT. [smj] wow. [loling] dvnt [loling] is that on tv? [ 12-Sep-01 00:07 ] jonpaul@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Does this mean we're going to war with Palestine? [dvnt] no, its in my email [bronwen] who's the leader of the DFLP [bronwen] ? [smj] bin Laden too. [loling] whos it from [dvnt] i'll find out, hangf on [loling] a reliable source?> [smj] just get them all. [ 12-Sep-01 00:07 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:08 ] jfourier@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] here is some info on them, [dvnt] The DFLP was formed in 1969 with an estimated membership of 500. [dvnt] It was originally based in Syria, but the location of its current [dvnt] headquarters are unknown. The DFLP receives financial and [dvnt] military aid from Syria and Libya. It operates in Syria, Lebanon, [dvnt] Israel and the occupied territories. Its leader is Naif Hawatmeh, [dvnt] according to Israeli-based Interdisciplinary Center. [ 12-Sep-01 00:08 ] danimal@sdf has joined ny. [loling] e:echo [loling] whats echo? [loling] nm [dvnt] lets you see what you are typing [danimal] my condoleances for new york [gms] Might be cool to go to war with Libya. Who'se the guy in the dress? Momar Kadafi? [spqr] s11209 - [danimal] who's from ny [spqr] i am [loling] whats the date*** [spqr] saw most of it from my office bldg in brooklyn [bronwen] sheesh [loling] 9/11 [danimal] there goes wtc [smj] really? [dvnt] my source for that info was STRATFOR the global intelligence company [nociasso] it is also world peace day [loling] not bad [nociasso] 9-11 world peace day [bronwen] coincidence? or intentional? [nonkels] peace day ?? no shit [nociasso] yes [loling] well i am out guys [gms] The news said 11 Sep is anniversary of some treaty that wasn't good for some mid-east country, several years ago. [loling] ill tty all l8er [smj] for sure intentional.. because ronald reagan and the israeli signed a peace agreement on this day? was it? [bronwen] some gyu last night mentioned that actually [bronwen] camp david or something [ 12-Sep-01 00:11 ] loling@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 00:11 ] matt808@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:11 ] astraea@sdf has joined ny. [astraea] That's the Camp David Accords they mean, gms [astraea] that was not Reagan and the Isreli.. [astraea] it was Egypt and Israel, and Jimmy Carter oversaw it. [jfourier] q:HELP [smj] did you hear that some DOT COM guy was on tone o the planes that plowed into the tower? [astraea] There were a couple of them. [nonkels] ah and that's whay that fourth plane was hiddin for camp david [ 12-Sep-01 00:12 ] hav0c@sdf has joined ny. [astraea] Yup [ 12-Sep-01 00:12 ] hav0c@sdf has left ny. [jfourier] QUIT [ 12-Sep-01 00:13 ] jfourier@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] where is camp david? [nonkels] near pittsburgh [danimal] near pittsburg [wm] smj, akamai [bronwen] ahhhh [bronwen] it all makes sense [smj] yeh akamai [nonkels] yep [astraea] Here is about the Camp David accords [astraea] http://www.usembassy-israel.org.il/publish/peace/campdav.htm [astraea] this is the history of it and explains what it is and gives the actual text. [bronwen] thanks [danimal] so who is to blame for the attack? [smj] SOBS! [smj] on abcnews. [spqr] bbc says "In the last hour multiple explosions and anti-aircraft fire have been heard in the Afghan capital Kabul. [spqr] " [ 12-Sep-01 00:15 ] tubbs has left ny. [smj] "we're going to nail the SOBs doing this" [nociasso] ha [danimal] what is SOB [nociasso] i'm anti-SOB [danimal] ? [nonkels] yes smj, but don't jump to conclusions to fast [bronwen] son of bitch or something else? [smj] its just interesting that he said SOBs [ 12-Sep-01 00:16 ] usis12a@sdf has joined ny. [nociasso] yes, we have no idea if it was the SOBs or someone else [nociasso] i think i'll stay anti-SOB for now though, i don't know about you guys [nociasso] mommie [usis12a] [5~[6~[5~[5~:HELP [nonkels] hope this will not get into an arab vs western war [nociasso] it's going to be more than that [nonkels] like nostradamus said.... [nociasso] yeah, like nostradamus said...... [ 12-Sep-01 00:19 ] spqr@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:20 ] danimal has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:20 ] jig has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:20 ] bc@sdf has joined ny. [bc] blah [spqr] goto www.wnyc.org realaudio radio station in NY (public) [spqr] /help [wm] hmmm... so many ppl using the telecommunication grids in NYC are overloading it; lust like some sort of attack... [ 12-Sep-01 00:22 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [spqr] if the feds can connect the terrorists to a certa [spqr] in state, and they don't hand over the bombers... [ 12-Sep-01 00:25 ] spqr@sdf has joined ny. [smj] well, abcnews reported that there were telphone calls to bin laden supporters about targets hit. [dvnt] if anyone wants to get some interesting info, goto yahoo, and type 'spynews' in the search. sign up on the newsgroup.. [smj] but no one is jumping to conclusions. [ 12-Sep-01 00:26 ] mrseigen@sdf has joined ny. [mrseigen] h'lo. [ 12-Sep-01 00:26 ] b00ji@sdf has joined ny. [spqr] But Iraqi television played a patriotic song that begins "Down with America!" as it showed the World Trade Center's towers falling, The Associated Press news agency reported. [mrseigen] Interesting. [ 12-Sep-01 00:28 ] cham@sdf has joined ny. [smj] box cutters as the weapon of choice on the planes. [ 12-Sep-01 00:28 ] hackoso@sdf has joined ny. [gms] ox cutters? Those little blades in retractable handles? [gms] "box cutters", I mean. [ 12-Sep-01 00:29 ] hackoso@sdf has left ny. [bronwen] stanely knife? [smj] yes. [ 12-Sep-01 00:29 ] dunjo@sdf has joined ny. [smj] stanely thats right. [ 12-Sep-01 00:30 ] usis12a has left ny. [bronwen] i think we call them here [gms] That got through a metal detector? [smj] I guess so. [mrseigen] Lots of missing cops and stuff, though. [spqr] hey, when we launched cruise missles at Bin Laden's camps in 98 ... did they do much damage? [bronwen] hmmm you get them with plastic covers [smj] right. [gms] Maybe the blade would look like a raisor blade to an x-ray machine. It *is* a razor blade. [smj] a few people made calls on the planes so that helps with info. [spqr] could be ceramic [smj] nonetheless they go trhogh. [gms] Their last words recorded on a 911 record type. [dvnt] bush is on right now [ 12-Sep-01 00:31 ] sek@sdf has joined ny. [gms] I mean 911 record tape. [bronwen] thats the worst partimagine being on the phone to someone right at the end [gms] Yeah, someone to talk to right in your ear but too far away to help. [nonkels] is bush on now ?? [gms] t [gms] bush is talking now [dvnt] yeah on cnn [smj] yes.. abcnews.com [nonkels] damn not aon bbc world [ 11-Sep-01 00:34 ] wm@sdf has left ny. [spqr] he just said he will not make the distinction betw the terrorsts and those who harbor them [smj] right on! [gms] Lookout Afghanistan. [spqr] option for war opened [ 12-Sep-01 00:35 ] mrseigen has left ny. [astraea] Yes, bush is on now [smj] I'm delayed about 20 seconds :) [gms] Damn. He's quoting the Bible. I hate that. [dvnt] haha [astraea] I know, I wish he wouldn't do that [ 12-Sep-01 00:35 ] mekon@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:35 ] mekon@sdf has left ny. [astraea] well, he didn't really say anything [gms] Yeah. He just said the economy would be up & running tomorrow. [spqr] heard F15s (i assume) all day today arobout [gms] And left open the option of going to war even if we don't know who actuallyl did it. [smj] wow.. it does sound like a sermon. [smj] he didn't say righteousness though. [gms] Even the news analysts are sayng he didn't tell us much. Hah! [astraea] Yeah really [gms] He said they were "evil acts". [smj] what can he tell us though? [astraea] I've heard that a lot today. [gms] Said we were "the brightest beacon for freedom". [smj] he has been running his ass off all day. [astraea] Well, Tony Blair gave concrete information when he spoke, about what he was going to do. [dunjo] It took tens of thousands of lives to get Bush to do something about the middle east.... Pathetic. [gms] What did TB say? [astraea] so you would think.. [astraea] Oh. Earlier today, [dvnt] well, he couldnt say much, but he alluded to the fact that some country is gonna get whats coming.. [smj] TB is just more eloquent. [ 12-Sep-01 00:38 ] dunjo@sdf has left ny. [astraea] he said he would ground all commercial and private planes except under the tightest security, [ 12-Sep-01 00:38 ] ezfn@sdf has joined ny. [astraea] and, that no aircraft would be allowed to fly over cities any more. [spqr] theus domestic flights have little security... [astraea] See, he was pragmatic, he gave solid, concrete things that he was planning to do. [ 12-Sep-01 00:38 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [astraea] Bush just sort of gave us a pep talk to not worry and we will find who did it, [dvnt] tru [gms] US politicians talk like that except when they are calling each other crooks. [dvnt] yeah, that was a halftime speech.. [ 12-Sep-01 00:39 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [isis] whoopee [spqr] send in the regiment [smj] its his job to do that. [unpluged] we called [unpluged] it was down [astraea] I'd like to hear things like " [gms] unpluged, You called what? [astraea] oops, I'd like to hear things like "Tomorrow, I willmeet with the joint chiefs of staff and the Defense Dept. and we will discuss this and this." [unpluged] the number to muzik diminsion [smj] oh. [unpluged] ya [unpluged] well i got to get back to C [astraea] DVNT it really was a halftime speech. [unpluged] seya guys [ 12-Sep-01 00:40 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [astraea] yeah, I gotta get back to things too [astraea] se ya [gms] astraea, Are you in Arizona or are you in SCA? [dvnt] later [astraea] thank you for providing this forum for us to talk [astraea] Oh GMS, neither! [darklady] the key in his address was to say that we we look the same way at the terorists as we do at the country harboring them - that was a declaration [spqr] yep [dvnt] tru [astraea] test one two [spqr] got test [gms] astraea, Just a guess. Never mind me. ;-) [astraea] ok [astraea] heh nope, I'm not the astraea you're looking for [astraea] ;) [astraea] see ya! [ 12-Sep-01 00:42 ] astraea@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:42 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [nonkels] cu all [ 11-Sep-01 00:42 ] nonkels@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:42 ] doyley@sdf has joined ny. [doyley] hello [ 12-Sep-01 00:43 ] strkr@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Saying the terrorists & their harborers were the same left it open to have a ware with whoever we claim harbors them, eh? [dvnt] now we have this cardinal guy telling people to light a candle withthier family because terrorists live in darkness he says.. [ 12-Sep-01 00:43 ] strkr@sdf has left ny. [doyley] hey where are back [gms] So maybe there will be war. [gms] It'll be good for the economy, I'll betcha. [doyley] mabie but who will be in it [ezfn] i wont thank god [dvnt] what the war or the economy? [doyley] the war [spqr] dunno about a war but a raid-type operation probably? or maybe an air war like in kosovo? [ 12-Sep-01 00:44 ] ewok@sdf has joined ny. [smj] what do you need gms? [doyley] it was an implosion [gms] Answer yer phone, damnit, smj. [doyley] hey what country are you peop[le in [smj] I'm totally not hungry :) [dvnt] US [doyley] i am in australia [gms] How'd you know I was gonna ask about dinner? [spqr] Brooklyn, USA [ewok] US [gms] Nevermind. I'm goin to Sushiland. [doyley] china [bc] it'd be really hard for the US to fight against a small terrorist group [isis] uberland [bc] or create a war out of it [doyley] na [gms] No, Sushiland. Uberland is across town. [ewok] !who [ 12-Sep-01 00:46 ] ewok@sdf has left ny. [doyley] ausi ausi ausi oi oi oi [isis] I am from Uberland. [spqr] we bombed khadaffi(sp?) in the 80's and afganistan in 98... [doyley] faggots [gms] You're across town!? [ 12-Sep-01 00:46 ] darkjedi@sdf has joined ny. [gms] (;-) [isis] really [doyley] no in australia [dvnt] it is hard to fight a small terrorist group, because they are uncomventional. thats why certain specops teams were created, like SEAL team 6, but supposedly, they are no longer active.. [doyley] is evry one here in america [bc] but, there isn't a country behind this act, as of yet [doyley] we will see bc [bc] ideed [doyley] it is australia [doyley] meeeee [bc] iNdeed. damn echo [bronwen] whats australia? [bronwen] no way [bronwen] we missed hjohn howard [gms] Bush said he wouldn't distinguish between terrorist & anyone who helps them. So it could be any country that we say is allied with the terrorists. [doyley] i live in the country of australia [isis] iNDEED. fear the macs. [bronwen] if it was us [doyley] jhon is a poof [ 11-Sep-01 19:48 ] aeoe@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] yeah but they MISSED him [ 12-Sep-01 00:49 ] ewok@sdf has joined ny. [bronwen] so it wasn't australia other wise all 4 planes would have aimed for him [doyley] ha ha lol [darkjedi] WHO [gms] John Howard: Same bloke that owns all those hotels? [gms] (No, I didn't think so.) [bronwen] nope [bronwen] not the actor either [dvnt] isnt that howard johnson? [dvnt] haha! [doyley] i liove in australia and it is allright except for the gst [doyley] farken tax [ 12-Sep-01 00:50 ] spqr has left ny. [gms] dvnt, ;-) [dvnt] nothin like the good ol HOJO.. [ 12-Sep-01 00:50 ] darkjedi@sdf has left ny. [doyley] what do ya think of jonny howard [doyley] the prime minister [doyley] of australia [neopipil] quit [smj] BRB [gms] Off to Sushiland. I know everyone needed to know that. TTFN. BCNU. etc etc etc. [doyley] hey what are your ages [bronwen] he lived with his parents athome until he was 34 [ezfn] 15 [bronwen] so i don't think he has much of a clue [aeoe] 25 [bronwen] 24 [dvnt] 26 [isis] 108 [dvnt] and a half [ 11-Sep-01 00:51 ] gms@sdf has left ny. [doyley] hey your an old fart isis [ezfn] 16 in a month [isis] lol [doyley] are you gettin bombed ha ha lol [dvnt] damn, looks like im the old fart in here, or one of them.. [bronwen] its always the way :) [ 11-Sep-01 00:53 ] horst@sdf has left ny. [doyley] hey did anyone see the smoke of the world trade center bombing [dvnt] almost time to put viagras 800 number on my speed dial.. [dvnt] yeah all that smoke is crazy.. [isis] what bombing? [doyley] u r a horny prick [dvnt] hahaha! [ 11-Sep-01 00:54 ] neopipil@sdf has left ny. [doyley] it wasn't a bomb it was a kamakazie [dvnt] a tru kamikaze.. [isis] but they had bombs on the plane too, right? [doyley] probaly chinsede [doyley] yea [isis] they had to cover all the bases [ 12-Sep-01 00:55 ] juliusl@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:55 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [doyley] wot do ya mean [dvnt] no bombs, what brought the buildings down was not just the impact, but the burning jet fuel weakened and melted the steel construction. [juliusl] actually what happen there? I just tuned it to CNN news this morning [juliusl] I even saw some crazy pilot just drive throught the buildings! [doyley] what happened [ 12-Sep-01 00:57 ] jonpaul@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 00:57 ] bc@sdf has left ny. [doyley] cool [doyley] did you get it on tape [juliusl] nope doyley... [juliusl] I saw it live on CN this mroning at 8.40am b4 I leave.. [doyley] can you send me some info on my email [dvnt] if anyone doesnt know what happened, I have this all in email, in a timeline fashion. I'll send it to whoever wants it. [juliusl] I seriously dunno more [doyley] me i am quickflash08@hotmail.com [bronwen] send to me [juliusl] our local newsaper , The Star newsaper (http://www.thestar.com.my) has it at the front page [bronwen] bronwen@sdf.lonestar.org [bronwen] i might need it to send to people :) [ewok] quit [dvnt] ok, hang on, I'll be back. [doyley] cool [bronwen] thanks [ 11-Sep-01 00:59 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [doyley] hey what is the weather over there [juliusl] u mean in Malaysia? :) [juliusl] it's suny skies out there as what I can from outside.. [doyley] what is your age again [ 12-Sep-01 01:01 ] oxxc@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:02 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] me? [dvnt] ok, [juliusl] I am a colleg student [doyley] na the guy on the left of course u [dvnt] doyley did you say quickflash08@hotmail? [doyley] yes [juliusl] now our stiock market, Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange is shutdown today becuase of US attacks :) [dvnt] ok, you should have it [dvnt] you too bronwen [ 12-Sep-01 01:03 ] jenna@sdf has joined ny. [doyley] it is me doyle [jenna] hi doyle [juliusl] heyz,doyley, now I am watching live video on CNN website [doyley] lets bybass the bullshit and talk to the americanz [ 12-Sep-01 01:05 ] bronwen has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:05 ] oxxc has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:05 ] ezfn@sdf has left ny. [jenna] hey everybody some one talk to me im new to this conversation [ 12-Sep-01 01:06 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] I'm sorry about that doyley [doyley] wot [nociasso] it's amerikans [ 12-Sep-01 01:06 ] ivanov@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey jenna.. just going over everything from today.. [jenna] some one talk to me [ 12-Sep-01 01:06 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [ivanov] geeee [dvnt] hey laze [ivanov] that islqmik bullshit suxx [laze] hi [jenna] nobody said hello to me [doyley] hello [dvnt] hey Jenna! [ivanov] i feel horrible..:(( [laze] me too.. [jenna] thanksthats okay [doyley] get me one [dvnt] ok [jenna] me too [laze] I'm just sick thinking about the people that died in those towers [doyley] send it to me in e-mail [dvnt] the beer? [doyley] did you know anyone that was in ther [juliusl] I can imagine how shitty it was for thopse ppl who was working in that floor... [jenna] i haven't heard about the it [laze] my company has an office there, but I dont think I personally knew anybody [juliusl] and d then suddenly see this crazy plane drive through their office! [dvnt] I knew 2 people that were upposed to be in there, but they were both not there at the time [doyley] ]good [laze] there will literally be thousands dead [doyley] jenna sux OB [juliusl] man...if I were in ther too...I wouldn't have time to run out..! [doyley] shit [jenna] you suck doyle [doyley] fuck u slut [jenna] you arsehole doyle [juliusl] whao...cool it ! [dvnt] hey, get this, [dvnt] U.S. officials say Osama bin Laden is posting instructions for [dvnt] terrorist [dvnt] activities on sports chat rooms, pornographic bulletin boards and other [dvnt] Web [dvnt] sites. [doyley] some one kick off jenna please....... [jenna] l [laze] what? [dvnt] thats from USA Today [doyley] cool [laze] Where'd you hear that dvnt [laze] oh [jenna] no kick off doyle im a very important person in this country [ 12-Sep-01 01:11 ] jlw@sdf has joined ny. [jenna] jkl [doyley] ]yea the sex queen [doyley] seriously [ 12-Sep-01 01:12 ] jlw@sdf has left ny. [jenna] no i am not the sex queen [dvnt] sounds like you two know each other quite well.. [doyley] not that well [laze] usatoday.com dvnt? [doyley] but we are sitting right next to each other [juliusl] no wonder ....I typed it wrong...I type ustoday.com [dvnt] it might be on usatoday.com, I got it in my email from spynews, but it was an article by Jack Kelly [aeoe] quit [ 12-Sep-01 01:15 ] jenna has left ny. [aeoe] exit [doyley] who is he [aeoe] nevermind [dvnt] I dont know, just a reporter I guess, I have read his articles before though [juliusl] I think The Star newspaper back here doesn'treally cover mucyh about it. [ 12-Sep-01 01:15 ] jenna@sdf has joined ny. [doyley] does anyone here have any progs that will help me hack into a school system [jenna] hello everybody im back dont listen to doyle he is a very mean guy [juliusl] try reading it at www.thestar.com.my and u know what I mean :) [doyley] i ki [ 12-Sep-01 01:17 ] vman@sdf has joined ny. [vman] my god [doyley] cked here off [vman] so many ppl in here [ 12-Sep-01 01:17 ] vman@sdf has left ny. [doyley] yea get OUT [jenna] i haven't heard anything about the bombing [doyley] NOW [aeoe] what bomvbing [doyley] you dumbass!!!!! [jenna] i mean the plane crash [doyley] 3 of them [jenna] your a dumbass [aeoe] im guessing several thousand people died [juliusl] there is no bombing! just some crazy pilot decided to fly to heaven instead [jenna] oh my god thats bad [doyley] yep [doyley] idiot [doyley] exit [ 12-Sep-01 01:20 ] hprtchrd@sdf has joined ny. [jenna] him to the new person [dvnt] you guys should signup on spynews, im getting about 5 updates every 10 minutes on this stuff.. [juliusl] oh really? [dvnt] articles from all over the world, and from the intelligence community [juliusl] but it's under construction. (www.spynews.com [aeoe] i hate this bullshit [dvnt] no, not spynews.com, [aeoe] i just want to wake up and its all gone [aeoe] im sick of this shit [dvnt] you can find it by searching for spynews in yahoo [juliusl] well it's a state of shock for all of us in Malaysia [dvnt] or go to http://mprofaca.cro.net/mainmenu.html [ 12-Sep-01 01:22 ] celica@sdf has joined ny. [jenna] can someb tell me about this plane crash i haven't heard anything about it and im dying to know what people are like in america [juliusl] damn the stupid Windows Media Player...can't even play a smooth playback on thoise videos in CNN! [hprtchrd] What is the ee best source for vdeo online? [ 12-Sep-01 01:24 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [juliusl] all I know is to head over to CNN or USAtoday [ 12-Sep-01 01:25 ] doyley has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:25 ] jenna has left ny. [hprtchrd] CNN didn't have much this afternoon, I will try again. [dvnt] jenna- the terorrists hijacked four planes, crashed teo of them into the world trade center buildings, and one into the pentagon. the last one went down somewhre else. [ 12-Sep-01 01:25 ] celica@sdf has joined ny. [hprtchrd] Wasn't there a fifth? [juliusl] I don't think so...4 only [hprtchrd] Two UA flights into Pensivania? [dvnt] yeah I think it was just 4 [aeoe] rumors denied hprtchrd [hprtchrd] Damn work got in the way of listening to the reports. [ 12-Sep-01 01:26 ] netster3@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:26 ] cham@sdf has left ny. [netster3] dude this sux [celica] no kiding [dvnt] the first two were going to LA [hprtchrd] Hoiw's the mood in USA this evening? Anyone... [netster3] any one live in ny? [aeoe] hprt: its shitty [netster3] (imean in this room) [celica] imagine no knowing what was happineg till you crashed into the wtc [hprtchrd] I'm in canada... devestating to the ppl I talked to. [aeoe] people are pissed, they want blood [dvnt] and the third.. [celica] i put pics up on my space... [netster3] u notice how the terrorests got the us's attention with the first plane [celica] celica.freeshell.org [hprtchrd] So do I, but I fear TOO much of that sentiment. [aeoe] the malls and schools are shut down in many cities, even in the middle of country [ 12-Sep-01 01:28 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [aeoe] the rednecks want to kill arabs [ 12-Sep-01 01:28 ] netster3@sdf has left ny. [celica] i know, im all the way in california and my college is closed.... no scool [aeoe] but the level heads dont [hprtchrd] has the culprit been identified? [celica] no, it is still just speculated that it is bin laden [hprtchrd] I don't have TVC, so I am out of the loop ATM. [hprtchrd] I heard that part, but also the denials. [aeoe] they played a guy saying 'holy fucking shit' on CBS , unheard of [celica] well... this event is something you want to censor.... [hprtchrd] I read the part in the newsreports.. some guy on the phone . [hprtchrd] Sad! [aeoe] gdo damn celica crazy pics [aeoe] the bin laden photo at the bottom is stupid [celica] im listeing to the news... i agree with the people that say that we need to go after the group that did this and the country that protects them [hprtchrd] Need to know who that is first [hprtchrd] and prove it [ 12-Sep-01 01:31 ] joed@sdf has joined ny. [aeoe] hoprt: you want to know the mood in the US? the they dont care who did it, they just want to blow someone up [celica] it wont be hard once we get our $#!t toghether [ 12-Sep-01 01:31 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [aeoe] lawrence engleberger on CNN was saying that [aeoe] used to be high up in geroge bush version 1 administration [hprtchrd] I understand the feeling (I share it), but I am not in the US.. .am I a target? [juliusl] doyley...do you think something would happen to Malaysia? [celica] its most likely afgan... [hprtchrd] I've been reading Clancy the last two weeks... [hprtchrd] Fried my brain when I first heard. [ 12-Sep-01 01:33 ] doyley@sdf has joined ny. [celica] lol, i bet [doyley] hey i am back [juliusl] http://www.cnn.com/ [juliusl] sorruie.. [ 12-Sep-01 01:34 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] if they find out that it was definitley bin laden, they are saying that we will bomb every possible location in afghanistan that he would probably be. [juliusl] doyley...do you think something would happen to Malaysia? [hprtchrd] "they" say a lot of things. [celica] i doubt it [dvnt] dont doubt it.. [hprtchrd] Bush has promised justice [celica] is bin laden in malaysia? if not, you have nothin to worry about [doyley] i am the guru ask all [hprtchrd] I think he used another word too [doyley] we have no president in australia [nociasso] have the gas prices gone up for anyone yet? [juliusl] nope...bin laden is ot in Malaysioa :) [doyley] but [nociasso] there are lines and rising prices here [hprtchrd] Could that be a panic reaction? [doyley] bill clinton is in australia now [juliusl] just that it might affect the stock market back here [kalensr] $4 in Indiania [kalensr] .. [celica] damn [celica] i havent tried to get gas yet [hprtchrd] I gotta go, another chat on hold... [hprtchrd] Best wishes to my American neighbors. [dvnt] isthanks [ 12-Sep-01 01:37 ] hprtchrd@sdf has left ny. [kalensr] I am in Ohio and waited 1 1/2 hrs for gas at $1.78 a gallaon [dvnt] whaaat?? [ 12-Sep-01 01:37 ] megatr0n@sdf has joined ny. [megatr0n] hello [doyley] hey [dvnt] hey meg [kalensr] Supposed to go up at midnight.. [dvnt] as if it aint already high enough.. [juliusl] well all I can say is God bebless Amercica! [celica] im going o t gas now... [juliusl] oops [dvnt] good idea.. [juliusl] well I all I can say is God bless America [celica] b bck soon [kalensr] hehe.. God bless us all! [doyley] tru dat truuuuuu dat [megatr0n] America needs to stop playing global cop [juliusl] the funny thing is why are there anti-christians in SDF's board [megatr0n] we must take responsibility for our actions [ 12-Sep-01 01:40 ] aeoe has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:40 ] joed has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:40 ] jonpaul@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] I'm gonna go.. [kalensr] PEACE dvnt [dvnt] good talking to everyone, take it easy [ 12-Sep-01 01:40 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [juliusl] well america is like the big boss in the whole world [doyley] shutup [megatr0n] letlet the arabs and jews kill each other why the hell should we care [ 12-Sep-01 01:41 ] gms@sdf has joined ny. [megatr0n] no sweat off my balls [ 12-Sep-01 01:42 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [doyley] r u hewre thomanator [unpluged] sup [unpluged] whats going on ? [gms] megatr0n, I think the problem is that if we side with either, even by a little bit, the other side declares a jihad on us. So we loose either way. [megatr0n] then drop out [megatr0n] don't help either [gms] They think in a "if you're not with us, you are against us" way. [megatr0n] worry about ourselves [juliusl] !pine [ 12-Sep-01 01:45 ] doyley has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:45 ] kalensr@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:46 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [gms] Minding our own business wouldn never work. [ 12-Sep-01 01:46 ] binladen@sdf has joined ny. [gms] It would be too practical & simple. Make too much sense. [b00ji] q:quit [ 12-Sep-01 01:47 ] b00ji@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:47 ] sinoth@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:47 ] wonton@sdf has joined ny. [sinoth] 'lo [gms] I've been away from the news for a few hours. Has anyone taken credit for bombing Afghanistan? [ 12-Sep-01 01:48 ] atwar@sdf has joined ny. [wonton] I thiI ti think so [gms] Who? [wonton] exit [sinoth] i doubt it was the u.s. [ 12-Sep-01 01:48 ] atwar@sdf has left ny. [isis] it wasn't the us [isis] http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/ts/crash_afghan_pentagon_dc.html [sinoth] after all of dubyah's bible thumping, i doubt we'll even raise a finger [ 12-Sep-01 01:50 ] binladen has left ny. [gms] isis, So the article says that some anti-Taliban Afghanistans may have been fighting with other Afghanistanis? [gms] I see. So bin Laden has the Talibans who hate the U.S. [ 12-Sep-01 01:52 ] sinoth@sdf has left ny. [gms] Afghanistan maybe likes the Talibans. [smj] I'm back. [gms] Some anti-Taliban Aghanis used to be let by a guy named Masood, but he died on Sunday. [gms] So maybe the Talibans did the terrorist thing today. [smj] you mean the jihad. [gms] And maybe the Masoodinist anti-Talibans retaliated in Afghanistan today. [gms] I guess that's a wrap. We can all go home now. [ 12-Sep-01 01:53 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [gms] The terrorism today was part of a jihad. One act of terrorism does not make a jihad. [juliusl] okies...I'm leaaving.,..bye [ 12-Sep-01 01:55 ] wonton has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 01:55 ] rstiles@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] !help [juliusl] help [juliusl] ? [juliusl] excuese me...how do I get outta here? [rstiles] ctrl x [gms] colon-quit [rstiles] oh [rstiles] Anyone actually in NY? [rstiles] I saw it live this morning when the 2nd plane hit [rstiles] On TV, I mean. [ 12-Sep-01 01:57 ] rstiles@sdf has left ny. [smj] there are a couple on sdf. [juliusl] thanks rstiles for de help! and god bless america! [gms] Which god? [gms] What god? [juliusl] Father god of Jesus Christ? [gms] He died. Got nailed to a tree by some roman soldiers about 2,000 years ago. [gms] He couldn't get god. [gms] He couldn't be god. [ 12-Sep-01 01:58 ] hprtchrd@sdf has joined ny. [celica] hello [celica] back [hprtchrd] hio [hprtchrd] got a chat going, mind if I lurk? [juliusl] erm...sorrie...I meant Father God beloni...oh nbvm.. [ 12-Sep-01 01:59 ] nforcer@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] not really died....curxified [celica] gas is 1.50 in nor cal [juliusl] cruxified on the cross [celica] no long lines... yet [gms] celica, So gas prices have lowered there? Weren't you at $2/gal? [celica] that was a fww months ago [ 12-Sep-01 02:00 ] nforcer@sdf has left ny. [celica] last month it was down to 1.35 [gms] I'm in Seattle. We're at 1.79 or 1.76 yesterday. Haven't seen the prices today. [celica] well... it depends where you go... at shell gas was 1.98 [celica] i went to beacon [juliusl] erm...gas here is about in Malaysia, it's RM 1.20 for the unleaded [smj] so what does mahathir have to say about this? [gms] What's an RM & how does it convert to a buck? [smj] now the petronas towards are the biggest in the world for sure. [smj] RM is about 3.7 to the dollar. [smj] everything is cheap in malaysia [gms] So gas in Malaysia is about 0.40 buk/gal? [gms] That's a bargain? [juliusl] that's ourcurrecny herenope...it's 3.8 [juliusl] oops. [smj] oh so its devalued.. great. [juliusl] it's US 3.8 to our RM 1 [smj] WHAT? [smj] haha [smj] no, its 3.8 ringget to the dollar.. [juliusl] and it's fixed mby Dr. Mahathir alreayd...he's not gonna remove it ever [smj] what is mahathir is saying. [gms] So gas in Malaysia is 4.56 buck/gal? Yikes! [smj] Yeh he doesn't know what he is talking about. [juliusl] he will never ever remove that fix ed currency for the US dollar in Malaysia [smj] DR Mahathir is a total biggot. [juliusl] agree! [smj] Thats the the exchange rate is fixed. [smj] so did DR Mahathir sodomise Anwar Ibrhim? [juliusl] so I think the petrol here is cheap although it went up few months ago.. [juliusl] Mathathir sodomise Anwar Ibrahim? why would he wanna do that for? :) [gms] Is it 4.5 dollar/gal? (I wanna be sure I got that right.) [gms] Who is Anwar Ibrahim? [smj] anwar was deputy pRM [smj] PM [juliusl] I duno how to covert to litres , gms [juliusl] we count our petrol in RM 1.20/litre [gms] So 1.2 RM was for a litre? [juliusl] yup.. [gms] Hang on... I'll be back. [hprtchrd] 4 litres to a galoln is close enough [ 12-Sep-01 02:06 ] binhex@sdf has joined ny. [celica] juliani is on tv now [ 12-Sep-01 02:06 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [gms] 4 litre == 1 gal? [kd5lct] hello [celica] lost a lot of good fire fighters [gms] that puts Mayaysian gas at over 16 buck/gal! [juliusl] PM? nah...Deputy Prime Minister...but now sacked..and replaced by another idiot also [gms] Jesus Christ! [hprtchrd] That's a canadian gallon though [gms] And you called that cheap? [juliusl] gee...is that expnesive ,gms? [kd5lct] the sutuff going to be on the tv for the next weeks [juliusl] to us it's normal... [smj] he doesn't know what he is talking about. [smj] its 3.8 ringget to the dollar. [kd5lct] what contry are you from ? [gms] If 4 litre = 1 gal, & if 3.8 bucks make an RM, then I pay 0.37 RM/litre. [juliusl] sorry SMJ...I'm bad at converting cuirrencies. [ 12-Sep-01 02:08 ] geffy@sdf has joined ny. [gms] So I'd say 1.2 RM/litre is outrageous. [juliusl] I am from Malaysia, kd5lct [celica] l ivein Nor Cali... and this friday i have a trip to LA.... i dont know if im going to go [smj] are you in kuala lumpur? [kd5lct] no duh its like 4.00 us $ [kd5lct] thaks [celica] i heard on the local radio this chic said that bin laden said that if he hits the east coast... he WILL hit the west coast [juliusl] not exatcly in KL, but near enough ytoo KL..heard of a town in SUbang Jaya?it's in the Selangor state :0 [gms] celica, It should be safe by then. All the airlines will have cracked down on security. [smj] subang yjaya? [ 12-Sep-01 02:10 ] binhex has left ny. [juliusl] Subang Jaya [smj] do you know where midvalley megamall is? [hprtchrd] What we need is UK like security tmindset [juliusl] yeah! [celica] man... [kd5lct] i say sdf neeeds to be in a bunker with satlite up linke [juliusl] of course...it's in KL..and we call it the largetst mall in Malaysia..to us [kd5lct] tell this blows over [kd5lct] just in case ^_^ [gms] hprtchrd, What is UK security like? [celica] there are 50,000 people that work ni the WTC [hprtchrd] the ppl care about loose packages at airports... [hprtchrd] that kinda thing [juliusl] hey guys...I mean...just imagine some crazy ppl drive through Petronas Twin Towrs [gms] How would they detect the knives the hijackers used? [hprtchrd] they are "used " to IRA activity, and all take a part in being mindfull [celica] loose packages nothing..... the hihackers used knifes [kd5lct] 60,00 is more rigt the macium occp. is 80,000 [ 12-Sep-01 02:12 ] geffy@sdf has left ny. [kd5lct] in the twtc [hprtchrd] its the basic mindset that counts, in all ppl [kd5lct] they need to put a mounment for it [juliusl] Dr Mahaththir would be jumping up and adown if ppl drive through that Twin Tower [smj] this is war. [hprtchrd] I agree, war is the name for it. [gms] Yup. Qualifies for war in my book. [smj] Yes.. the patrones towards.. I wonder if Dr Mahathir started jacking off when he heard about the plane hitting the WTC .. what do you think? do you think he was jacking off?? [smj] I bet mahathir was jacking off to the TV .. CNN [celica] they think that 200 fire fighters are killed along with 75 policemen [juliusl] I think there I think those Afg has no where else to bomb or drive stright dthrough in Afg...that's why they come over to US [gms] Is this Dr Manhattan a sexual deviant or the ruler of Malaysia? [kd5lct] no theis IS WAR ^__^ [kd5lct] im thuh a poxy so my machie is slow [juliusl] I say GMS,,,all politcians (and all of them are mostly Islam religion) are bunhc of power suckers [gms] So the ruler of Malaysia is Dr Manhattan, & he's a sexual deviant? I see. [gms] makes sens,e too. [smj] I think DR Mahathir performed oral sex on Anwar Ibrahim. [gms] Is Anwar a politician, too? [kd5lct] not to be mean WHO EVERE DID THIS IS A FUCKING ASSHOLE [juliusl] u know..rumours said that Mathathir is actually framing up Anwar to replcaced him with another DPM [ 11-Sep-01 21:16 ] traveler@sdf has joined ny. [kd5lct] low up the WT C [juliusl] Dr. Anwar Ibrahim is our past Deputy Primie Minister...why wouldn't bhe be a politician? :0 [kd5lct] sad so sad :-( [gms] juliousl, I didn't know he was your former DPM. [gms] Now I understand. [juliusl] and oh...btw...we have our very own OPutra Wolrd Tracede Centre of which it's not very tall compared to WTC [kd5lct] sad sad sad im [ 12-Sep-01 02:20 ] traveler has left ny. [juliusl] sorry...I made a spelling mistake..it's MAS (Malaysian Airlines ) [gms] It does seem unusual that a politician would have a PhD. Is it a coincidence that two in a row are PhDs? [gms] Do you have elections in Malaysia? [kd5lct] no just sad sad sad sad verysad [juliusl] I doubt they might have PhD but still they aren't efficint as any politicicans in US! [hprtchrd] Well get over it soon, there's work to do tomorrow. [juliusl] we have elections now and then...but now this week though :) [kd5lct] any whoe from texas [gms] Why are you sad, kd5lct? [kd5lct] sad sad sad sad sad [gms] Was it something that happened today? ;-| [gms] I mean ;-) [kd5lct] becusese of the wtc implosion and it fily set in thats it's real [hprtchrd] yup, it's real. [ 12-Sep-01 02:23 ] sparkey@sdf has joined ny. [hprtchrd] Aw Hell!, now I am sad too [gms] Lotta peeps died, too. [juliusl] to me GMS, I am just waiting patietly for Mahathir to step down..one day.. [kd5lct] and trthe fact that so many people died [juliusl] he's an old 73 year old (I think..) man [hprtchrd] I don't even wanna know the count [gms] juliousl, Does he have a term of office, or does he step down only when he feels like it? [sparkey] exit [sparkey] taf [gms] Anyone know the body count? [kd5lct] its ":quit" [gms] I've heard 2,000 to 60,000. [hprtchrd] Please dont ask [gms] That's too wide a range to help. [ 12-Sep-01 02:24 ] b00ji@sdf has joined ny. [hprtchrd] http://usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/11/death-toll.htm [kd5lct] at least 1`1 10,000 at lest sad sad sad [b00ji] lots of jpegs and divx video at http://b00ji.freeshell.org/wtc/ [ 12-Sep-01 02:25 ] sparkey has left ny. [juliusl] gms: he doesn't even have a contract...not like the US president..he stays as long as h e wants.. [gms] hprtchrd, From that page, I'd say the total will be less than 10,000. [hprtchrd] lotta "unknowns" on that page [hprtchrd] better than the 50K plus visitors that the WTC can hold [ 11-Sep-01 02:26 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [gms] Even "missing/unaccounted" is uncomfirmed. Does that makes sense? [ 12-Sep-01 02:26 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [hprtchrd] It does to me [ 12-Sep-01 02:26 ] b00ji@sdf has left ny. [hprtchrd] Why be alarmist about it, wait for confirmation... [kd5lct] quat [kd5lct] Casualties from terrorist attacks [kd5lct] From staff and wire reports [kd5lct] Airline casualties [kd5lct] American Airlines Flight 11 92 [kd5lct] American Airlines Flight 77 64 [kd5lct] United Airlines Flight 93 45 [kd5lct] United Airlines Flight 175 65 [kd5lct] World Trade Center casualties [kd5lct] Dead unconfirmed [kd5lct] Wounded 2,250 [kd5lct] Missing/unaccounted unconfirmed [kd5lct] Pentagon casualties [kd5lct] Dead unconfirmed [kd5lct] Wounded 76 [kd5lct] Missing/unaccounted unconfirmed [kd5lct] Total casualties [kd5lct] Dead 266 [kd5lct] Wounded 2,326 [kd5lct] Missing/unaccounted unconfirmed [kd5lct] Total monetary damages [kd5lct] World Trade Center: unconfirmed [kd5lct] Pentagon: unconfirmed [juliusl] u know this short acronym joke for IMF? [gms] IMF? [juliusl] we call it 'Internation Mother Fucker' for Mahathir [juliusl] IMF (International Monertuary Fund) [gms] Is Dr Manhattan hated that much? [kd5lct] int fucker fund ? [juliusl] haha...International Mother Fucker [gms] If he ruins yer economy, he can be international monetary fucker. [juliusl] the muslims support him very much..othres don;t really support him [kd5lct] happly sad sad sad [gms] Is Malaysia muslim? I had no idea. [kd5lct] [smj] yep. [smj] totally muslim. [juliusl] we have all sorts of relgions..but muslims cover the most... [juliusl] just inmagine gms.. [gms] I had no idea. [ 12-Sep-01 02:30 ] megatr0n has left ny. [juliusl] imagine u were to be a mos..sorrie... [kd5lct] i had a network in wtc tower 7 [juliusl] imagine u were to be a muslim...but u have to have at least 3 kids.. [kd5lct] know a guy in it [juliusl] even those poor ppl staying in the rural areas onf malaysia has 5 kids! [kd5lct] bat leat he got out ok [gms] It's the law to have at least 3 kids? No way. [juliusl] becuase Muslim is the mian relgion in Malaysia...and now we are having our SEA games here [kd5lct] sad sad sad sad sad sad so dsad sad sad sade [ 12-Sep-01 02:32 ] iman@sdf has joined ny. [kd5lct] [smj] I hope the russians are on our side this time. [iman] they said they would be [juliusl] I heard that it was Mahathir's persuatasation to bring up more kids to rule Malaysoia...something like that [smj] Thats good. [kd5lct] smj [iman] yeah [juliusl] now he is having some troubel... [gms] I wonder how the women feel about that, being ordered to have 3+ kids. [kd5lct] do myou think that a;;ll the [juliusl] apparently he is now asking muslim parents to educate them more...rather than poroducting low quality kids..with poor education [celica] i head that russia was pissed that this happened! [iman] yea, russia was pretty mad [iman] they said they had out back and stuff [kd5lct] all the people ion the system sis in here ? [iman] our* [nociasso] ha. 'low quality kids' [gms] Why was Russia angry? [hprtchrd] I think everyone (almost) is upset. [juliusl] come over to Malaysia...and u wll see that most ..or all Muslim families have at least 3 kids...and these fellas marriy and fuck even earlier than we chinese [kd5lct] sad sad sad pissed sadsad sad sad sleepy safd ad sad [hprtchrd] Yer loosing it dood [juliusl] my sister said that her friend just got married at the age of 20 [gms] hprtchrd, The people behind it are happy. Went off without a hitch. Accomplished their goals. [hprtchrd] Go get some sleep [hprtchrd] Yeah, they are the only happy ones. [gms] Where are you kd5lct? [kd5lct] sadsadsad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad sad [juliusl] imagine ur kids end-up working as a a toll-booth man [hprtchrd] was the Pen crash a mistake ya think? [juliusl] they dun mind at all..just as so long they get the $$...they dun care.. [kd5lct] i'm loging off smj can yi'm loging off [hprtchrd] G'night [smj] what was that? [kd5lct] bye [gms] Maybe the passengers overpowered the hijackers in Penn but couldn't save the plane (& their themselves. [ 12-Sep-01 02:36 ] thecure7@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:36 ] kd5lct@sdf has left ny. [smj] thats what I've heard. [hprtchrd] If I were a pilot, I would been a lawn dart before a building killer. [smj] i think those cellpphone calls will be revealing. [gms] hprtchrd ;-) [ 12-Sep-01 02:37 ] inferno@sdf has joined ny. [thecure7] i agree [gms] Hijackers may have killed the pilots & guided the planes themselves. [smj] its just quick thinking you know. [juliusl] heyz SMJ...I have probelm with my micq... [hprtchrd] I heard talk that "tey" had pilot training... scary [gms] If you're prepared to die, a hijacked airplane is the cheapest, most intelligent guided missile to be found. [smj] we're not talking about micq juliusl.. use the bboard. [juliusl] okies...sorrie SMJ. [hprtchrd] How do you force a pilot into the WTC????? [inferno] Any more word on the state dept bomb? [gms] Kill him & drive the plane yerself. [hprtchrd] I guess so :( [gms] (That's how you force the pilot, I mean.) [thecure7] I am sure that they killed them first...I don't think any pilot would kill all thoughs innocent people at knife point [hprtchrd] CNN asked Clancy, he said that devotion was hard to find.. mebbe not. [ 12-Sep-01 02:39 ] dred@sdf has joined ny. [smj] Hey juliusl [juliusl] yep...I doubtfully...just kill the innocent pilot...and drive the plane...and kill himself too [smj] Were the atronas towards evaculated today? [juliusl] yup smj? :) [smj] petraonas [smj] petronas wowards. [juliusl] yup? what about it? :) [smj] towards. [dred] What a tragedy [gms] Petroanas? What's that? [thecure7] atronas??? [gms] Oh! Atronas Towars? [juliusl] man...u know how proud was Mahathir about his Petronas Twin Towers...he said it's the tallest in the Guiness Records...just because of that attnena [gms] Towers. [smj] towarIt is. [gms] The two talls buildings? with the 120-foot attena on top? [smj] I've seen them hit by lightning before. [juliusl] I think this towers will njeed 3 planes.. [gms] Quite a site? [ 12-Sep-01 02:41 ] mrseigen@sdf has joined ny. [gms] juliousl, Not with a terrorist-made bomb in the basement. [gms] ;-) [juliusl] yup...with the "hey that's hcheating" 120-foot tantneea [mrseigen] Anyone heard anything on the 'net outages [gms] That's what took down the WTC, ain't it? [gms] juliousl, ;-) [ 12-Sep-01 02:42 ] brogers@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:42 ] williamd@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Terrorist are taking down the Net, too!?! Damn it! [williamd] hello [juliusl] erm..for ur info GMS...there is Suria KCC just below it...imagine ppl shopping there.. [mrseigen] somethingawful is down for one... >.< [hprtchrd] I got a lot of lag on the news sites this pm [celica] celica.freeshell.org [williamd] I lost alot of connections this afternoon [smj] do you know menara pan global in KL? [williamd] and cellular activity was nill all over the contry [juliusl] and suddenly ppl deicded to drive through KLL tower...or Twin tower..and crash it down st Suria KLCC [smj] I used to live there.. on the 25 floor. [williamd] exit [hprtchrd] Our telco was pleading for less use [juliusl] heard of Menara Pan Global..but dunno which road :) [gms] Celica has pics of today on her site. [ 12-Sep-01 02:43 ] hslist@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:43 ] xomit@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:43 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] williamd: type :quit [juliusl] cool! u actually came down to malaysia! [smj] Its near P. Ramlee [celica] im not a chick! [smj] Yes I lived there for like 7 months [ 12-Sep-01 02:44 ] charliem@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] ooic...sorrie if I'm blur in KL... [ 12-Sep-01 02:44 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [smj] but I used to watch the towers get struct by lightneing during storms. [celica] you wont see that anymore smj [gms] Look at all that dust (in the pic on celica's site). Amazing. [kd5lct] depesd sad sad [juliusl] I doubt it...coz it's tall enough for God to send 1.2 Million volts to Twin Towers [hprtchrd] It's the falling body I don't like [smj] No, I mean petronas towers in KL [smj] they're the tallest buildings in the world. [kd5lct] suidasidle [hprtchrd] burn or jum??? [celica] isnt that horrible [smj] its a symbol of dr mahathir's penis [hprtchrd] not much of a choice [juliusl] yup...smj...in Malaysia...we call it the Twin Towers (Petronas Twin Towers) [ 12-Sep-01 02:45 ] mrseigen@sdf has left ny. [gms] The explosion is amazing, too. Looks like a special effects movie, but it's real. Amazing. [kd5lct] im so wat to die [hprtchrd] someone on the ground was surprised by the thud they heard [isis] good night people [ivanov] [5~ [ivanov] quit [ 12-Sep-01 02:46 ] ivanov@sdf has left ny. [hprtchrd] colon first [gms] kd5lct, Have a vallium & a couple of screwdrivers. You'll feel better. [hprtchrd] lol [ 11-Sep-01 02:46 ] isis@sdf has left ny. [juliusl] why...I could say it 's nearly as long as Mahathir's dick [hslist] i heard reports of beer deliveries standing around, wondering what to do [celica] the thing that scares me is that all of the flights were aimed twoards Cali originaly [hprtchrd] ask an australian [smj] truck bomb in NJ! [smj] did you hear? [celica] im in Cali [hslist] that's cos the fuel tanks would be full [smj] the drivers were detained. [hprtchrd] when? [ 12-Sep-01 02:47 ] swig@sdf has joined ny. [hslist] if the planes were bound across the country [smj] just a litle bit earlier. [ 12-Sep-01 02:47 ] neoti@sdf has joined ny. [hprtchrd] copycats ya think? [gms] celica, I think they choose long flights so they'd have a lot of fuel. They diverted them early so they'd stillhave a lot of fuel when they hit their targets. [kd5lct] ok ill ogo to my main 3240 in an go kill my self or shuld i not ? [ 12-Sep-01 02:48 ] swig@sdf has left ny. [kd5lct] 240 vols [hslist] yes, they used the planes as their bombs, not having to bring in any outside resources. scary. [gms] celica, I like the last one of bin Laden. Kinda appropos. [hprtchrd] too smart for my liking [kd5lct] X_X [neoti] hihjkl;efdfa [ 12-Sep-01 02:48 ] akeeley@sdf has joined ny. [celica] so many people fell/jumped out of the WTC [neoti] hi [hslist] also they chose the planes to be bigger than the towers were designed to withstand, hence the commercial, broad jets [hprtchrd] I had to look up 757's to know [kd5lct] i s0ooo wat to die becuse of it [gms] They had time to jump?! That'd be a tough call if you were in the blding as it fell [hprtchrd] it was during the burn period [gms] I guess it's a situation you just don't want to be in. [hprtchrd] A janitor did well I heard [neoti] I was testing when it happened [ 12-Sep-01 02:50 ] williamd has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:50 ] xomit has left ny. [hslist] i was in a chem lab [neoti] q [juliusl] is either u jump and die...or burn to death...and die...no other way! [celica] yup [kd5lct] die me die whith a slsege hammere or electrty frere [akeeley] hellohq [juliusl] even SuperMan can't save himself too [hslist] that footage of the second plane was unreal [kd5lct] bye logoff quit [hslist] sliced the thing like cheese [gms] Seeing the explosion from below is...dramatic. [ 12-Sep-01 02:51 ] akeeley@sdf has joined ny. [hslist] god [kd5lct] aerre nyou frome nyc [juliusl] I wonder who is thatlucky devil to shot that footage [akeeley] heh... i had to read the man pages for com [gms] Do I see right that one building had already been hit & was smoking? [inferno] yes [hslist] yea apparently they didn't know the second one had collapsed completely, cos the debris from the first collapse was so blinding [kd5lct] NYC ATERE YOU FROM NYC [inferno] first plane hits one building [inferno] then the next plane hits the other... [hslist] 18 mins later [kd5lct] neo sadsadsad sad sad [juliusl] 18 mins? why took them so long to fly the second one? [gms] Timed just right really. The second plane took out 100+ rescue workers. [akeeley] that seems kind of quick to me [hslist] it's pretty good timing if you ask me [kd5lct] good night [gms] It was executed well. [celica] was 110 stores each... now only 5 stories each.... [ 12-Sep-01 02:54 ] hprtchrd@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:54 ] kd5lct@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 02:55 ] charliem has left ny. [gms] celica, In the pic of the Pentagon, is it hit by the plane yet? [gms] I can't see any damage. [hslist] so do you guys think the gov't should act dirtily behind our backs and quickly resolve this, or what [gms] Go to war. It'll be good for the economy. [hslist] do you think oak ridge is at risk [hslist] i live 15 ins away [gms] Oak Ridge? [akeeley] who would we go to war with? [iman] oak ridge? [hslist] yes, where Y-12 and ORNL are [hslist] the y-12 being where the atomic bomb was developed [gms] Whoever we claim "harbors" the terrorists. Pres B implied so in his speech this evening. [brogers] hslist: can't do a quick & dirty without drawing too much suspicion. there's something called "plausible deniablity" that must be maintained. [hslist] yea [hslist] is it a better idea to make war with these countries who harbor the terrorists but did not actually do anything, , or the terrorists themselves. [gms] If you don't achieve plausible deniability, does it mean you have unbeleivable plausibility? [hslist] in which case it would be more of a spy-assassination thing [brogers] harboring terrorists is doing something. [hprtchrd] Harbouring them is hardly "doing nothing"/. [nociasso] i live near Oak Ridge as well, hslist [hslist] true [ 12-Sep-01 02:59 ] unpluged@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Can you declare war on a group, or only on a country? [iman] country [hslist] i thnk the whole southeast is nervous, but from what i hear (which is very little) we're ok [brogers] war on drugs :-) [hprtchrd] I vote a group is an acceptabloe option [hslist] they're not saying much about OR at all [gms] Ware on SOME drugs. [unpluged] hey man remember me telliong you bout the sockits [brogers] OR? == what? [unpluged] www.sockits.cjb.net [unpluged] its up now i repoened it today [brogers] unpluged: not now dude [ 12-Sep-01 03:00 ] hslist@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:01 ] juliusl@sdf has left ny. [unpluged] stuck with all the war stuff uh [unpluged] blah [ 12-Sep-01 03:01 ] unpluged@sdf has left ny. [brogers] yeah [brogers] go to another room to talk about something else [hprtchrd] blah was wrong, but it has been a long day [brogers] sorry to be harsh [hprtchrd] I am outta here tooo... sleep [hprtchrd] Goodnight gang [brogers] night take care [ 12-Sep-01 03:02 ] hprtchrd@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:02 ] dred@sdf has left ny. [gms] Maybe you can declare war on non-countries. Germany on a race. Arabs on the same race. Nancy Reagan on some drugs. [hslist] me too. take care [ 12-Sep-01 03:02 ] hslist@sdf has left ny. [gms] (The last was funny, but eh first two were serious.) [ 12-Sep-01 03:03 ] akeeley@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:03 ] happyguy@sdf has joined ny. [celica] imagine the people that are still alive in the WTC... [gms] I would say there couldn't be anyone alive, ... [iman] there are still people in there [celica] the say there are [gms] but I remember the SF quate (1993?) when the Oakland bridge collapsed, & people were alive under the deck. [gms] Talk about a nightmare (being alive in situations like that). [neoti] bye [ 11-Sep-01 03:05 ] jeeves@sdf has left ny. [brogers] how would you like to be one of the unlucky 911 operators who gets a call from someone trapped in the wreckage and calling from their vell phone. would scar me for life probably. [brogers] vell -> cell [ 12-Sep-01 03:06 ] jlyger@sdf has joined ny. [gms] 'Twould be a whole new & unwelcome kind of pressure (911 worker who gets that call). [ 12-Sep-01 03:08 ] akeeley@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:08 ] angelfly@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:08 ] dunjo@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:09 ] dunjo@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:09 ] akeeley@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:09 ] bluerain@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:09 ] jeeves@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:10 ] jlyger has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:10 ] neoti has left ny. [gms] They closed my workplace today. (No where near WTC, Penn, or the Pentagon.) [gms] I thought that was kinda extreme. I stayed & worked. [angelfly] I jkjg [bluerain] hihi [angelfly] i think bush will declare war [thecure7] m too [gms] He would. Only Congress has the power to declare war. [bluerain] sahow are you? [bluerain] ufff [gms] Says so in the Constitution. Only Congress can declare war. [ 12-Sep-01 03:11 ] triofito@sdf has joined ny. [bluerain] how are you? [triofito] worried about a war [angelfly] if they fI'm very worried [triofito] where are you from? [angelfly] boston [gms] Has anyone here actually lived through a war? (Persian Gulf don't count.) [ 12-Sep-01 03:13 ] emc26@sdf has joined ny. [triofito] no, me not [triofito] im 18 [angelfly] I'm 16 [triofito] i live in mexico [gms] Since Vietnam wasn't a war, & since (probably) none of us are over 50, I'd bet none of us have lived through a war. [gms] I remember Vietnam though. I was 3. [triofito] thath collision afect my country [gms] So I sort of remember it. [thecure7] im 18 too [angelfly] mother called and had the school let me out early [ 12-Sep-01 03:14 ] thecure7@sdf has left ny. [triofito] lol [triofito] i was working at my internet coffe [triofito] the net was down for 4 hours [gms] angelfly, What grade? [angelfly] 11 [ 12-Sep-01 03:15 ] bluerain has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:15 ] happyguy has left ny. [gms] Did they talk about it in class? (Just curious.) [iman] we watched thwe news all day at school [triofito] In my girl friends school talked about that all day [angelfly] yeah but they wouldn't allow us to turn on tvs or radios but that didn't stop us from using the net [iman] we couldnt do anything else [gms] Did social studies teachers have anything to say about it? Seems like they could say helpful things. [triofito] my net went down for 4 hours and my clients gone sniff [triofito] no [iman] my teacher started to tear up [triofito] hmm [smj] war war war [triofito] how near is boston from ny? [iman] 90 miles [smj] about 100 miles [triofito] km? [smj] 230 [triofito] ok [gms] iman, "tear": Cry or let loose with angry words? [triofito] lol [triofito] maybe fight [iman] almost crying [iman] he had to leave [triofito] what about cuba? [triofito] come to mexico, mexico is great [angelfly] it pissed me off when I saw them celebrating in palistinia [smj] 2400 km ? [triofito] maybe 13500 km [gms] Cuba: hahahahah! (sorry, Cuba cracks me up. US govt will *always* declare Cuba home of the antichrist as long as Fidel lives. They'll never forgive him.) [triofito] no [triofito] so cuba is not an allie? [iman] cuba has enough problems [ 12-Sep-01 03:19 ] goodgirl@sdf has joined ny. [smj] they're catholics, right? [iman] yeah [smj] if so, they're probably allies. [gms] The US hates Cuba since Fidel tricked us into helping him take over, then he said "Oh by the way, I'm communist". [smj] this is jihad. [triofito] jihad [gms] Jihad from Arabs about Isreal. So what's new? [triofito] my las tmname is from libania [smj] in malaysia and indonesia there are 'jihad' supporters. [triofito] jassan [emc26] OAOAOAOAOBOAOBonloonasdfon!"apoibye [brogers] iman: I started to tear up. I have gotten choked up on a few occasions today. tough explaining to my 3 year old why. [gms] Jihad is a rough concept--for the peole the jihaders are out to kill. [emc26] online [triofito] they are prepared for die [gms] triofito: Yup. [triofito] what do you thing about a nuclear war? [celica] i doubt it.. [gms] I hope it's not likely. [smj] neutron bombs are okay. [triofito] but what if it happens? [gms] (That brings back old fears. Yikes.) [angelfly] don't think it will happen [smj] duck and cover. [gms] Efficiency & progress is ours once more [triofito] lol [gms] Now that we have the neutron bomb. [ 12-Sep-01 03:22 ] wm@sdf has joined ny. [gms] It's nice & quick & clean & gets things done! [triofito] yep [gms] Away with excess enemies. [triofito] they have knives [gms] With no less value to property. [triofito] but they are very intelligent [gms] No sense in war but perfect sense at home!!!!!! [ 12-Sep-01 03:22 ] wm@sdf has left ny. [gms] The sun beams down on a brand new day. [gms] No more welfare tax to pay. [gms] Thousands of slums gone up in flashing light. [triofito] welfare? [gms] As we.... [celica] i think that they should leave whats left of the WTC... after removing the rubble of course... and make it a monument so people dont forget. [gms] kill kill kill kill kill the poor [gms] kill kill kill kill ... [gms] the poor. [gms] I'm done. Sorry. [smj] its okay. [smj] dead kennedys [smj] I have that 7" [gms] Good. You recognize it. [gms] I used to have the transparent blue pic disk. [triofito] didi you heard about the summer course_? [angelfly] leaving the WTC as a monument might cause great sadness for people who lost loved ones [gms] I have the original T-Rex Electric Warrior pic disk. [gms] But I wax non-topical. [brogers] indeed [smj] gms .. [ 12-Sep-01 03:25 ] nociasso has left ny. [gms] smj, yes? [triofito] do you thing that the intelligence of the usa had knowledege of the atack? [smj] I don't think anyone is going to saudi. [smj] anytime soon.. enough said. [smj] maybe never. [gms] Shit. There goes my job. [smj] sorry. [gms] 'Tsalwright. Just gotta warm up my resume. [smj] was osama bin laden exiled? [smj] if he was exiled, it might be OK.. [gms] From S'audi? Yup. He's hiding in Afghanistan. [gms] Or he lives in Afghan. [brogers] triofito: trouble with intelligence is you can't always act on the knowledge you have. I don't know about a case like this though. I figure they must not have known, because this is absolutely montrously horrific. [gms] So said a news story on Yahoo. [angelfly] i think it was the US that bombed afghanistan [gms] US says we didn't do it. S [triofito] brogers: got it [gms] I think some anti-Taliban group has claimed responsibility for bombing Afghan. [triofito] angelfly: me to [smj] afghanistan is in a civil war! [gms] The anti-Taliban group is in Afghan. They are Afghanistani. [smj] Yeh, its an anti-taliban group. [gms] smj, That would explain it. [celica] i belive that it was isreal that did the bombing... because they will assume that well will back them up now after what happened! [celica] *we will [gms] I think we were backing them up, & that's why the terrorist terrorized us today. [triofito] lol [triofito] yeah [angelfly] i agree [triofito] well go to go [triofito] bye [celica] as i look at the after math... it remindsme of a third world country... and then i realize that this is manhattan! [smj] oh more about the truck. [triofito] cuidense de los arabes [ 12-Sep-01 03:29 ] lagoona@sdf has joined ny. [triofito] quit [triofito] logout [ 12-Sep-01 03:29 ] triofito@sdf has left ny. [celica] type :quit [gms] smj, What truck? [brogers] gms: apparentlyy a truck bomb [smj] 3 men were celebrating in liberty park.. they are being detained. [gms] In the WTC? A truck bomb, a la Oklahoma City? [smj] no in NJ [gms] So this truck bomb did not go off? [smj] no. [inferno] what about the stat dept? [inferno] state even... [brogers] smj: does news say that they actually found a bomb on the truck? [brogers] I get really nit-picky when the news races stories out [smj] no they did not. [celica] there are people in the basement of the WTC... they have cell phones and have been calling their families [celica] im about to cry [gms] celica, People are alive in the WTC basement & are phoning people?!? [celica] yeah! [ 12-Sep-01 03:33 ] danielk@sdf has joined ny. [celica] they are stuck there [gms] Are they okay & just trapped? If so, they might have good chances of getting out in a day or two. [celica] they didnt say [angelfly] quit [angelfly] logout [gms] colon-quit [celica] type :quit [brogers] type :quit [ 12-Sep-01 03:34 ] angelfly@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:35 ] sergiobc@sdf has joined ny. [smj] its kind of lame for anyone to celebrate this.. no matter how anti-american or anti-business you might be. [gms] Lame because then we'll know who did it, or lame because it's not a victory worth celebrating? [brogers] not a victory at all [lagoona] i agreei [iman] /exit [ 12-Sep-01 03:36 ] iman@sdf has left ny. [gms] Victory from their point of view, I mean. [lagoona] so do you guys think the us will retaliate ? [brogers] I know what you mean, but it stings. [smj] this is like right out of a movie.. it might as well have been godzilla. [gms] smj, What did you mean? [smj] you know, in the films they never show the people building the city back up .. just destroying itt. [ 12-Sep-01 03:37 ] santoshb@sdf has joined ny. [gms] I mean what did you mean about celebrating a victory being lame. [smj] or they dont make video games where you just clean things up or fix them.. its always about tearin shit down or destroying it. [goodgirl] quit [ 12-Sep-01 03:38 ] goodgirl@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:39 ] dunjo@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] inflicting pain upon those who would assist your enemies is not a victory. even from their point of view. perhaps a mission accomplished, but no victory. [dunjo] bravo [gms] Yeah, it probably will just bring them grief when/if the US figures out who to retaliate on. [dunjo] I just hope they don't jump to conclusions. [gms] Don't you think Afghan is responsible? [gms] And bin Laden? [brogers] you should worry more about eh the merican people jumping to conclusions [brogers] than the govt/military [dunjo] Well, that too. [santoshb] helo [dunjo] Hard to say who is responsible, with so many variables, opinions, and options. [santoshb] helloo anonehelloo all anyone wanna chat [dunjo] Among other things [brogers] before I logged in hre I downloaded source code for latest versions of GnuPG, OpenSSH, and OpenSSL. I worry that the intelligence community and law enforcement might try to make those and other crypto scarce [brogers] santoshb: you are. congrats. [santoshb] whyt [gms] Yeah, I wonder what freedoms we might throw away in the near future because we're afraid of thi s happening again. (Freedoms besides crypto.) [gms] In addition to crypto. [brogers] speech [santoshb] helloo brogers [brogers] unreasonable search & siezure [brogers] santoshb: we are talking about the terrorist attacks in the US [gms] We're always eating at our own freedom of speech, but search & seizure imight lose in the near future. More than it would have without today's happenings. [ 12-Sep-01 03:45 ] emc26 has left ny. [gms] Travel regulations? [brogers] what rights might be eroded with regards to travel? [santoshb] yes iknow it brogers [brogers] santoshb: if you want to talk about something else, please go to another room. [brogers] santoshb: sorry to be harsh [brogers] santoshb: tempers are high [santoshb] sorry brogers [santoshb] but it's my first time [gms] I don't know specifically. I guess I was just fishing for ideas. A gut feeling says travel might get regulated or restricted. [brogers] santoshb: type ":help" [gms] Less privacy in airport security, but that's part of the search & seizures you already mentioned. [dunjo] who jeeves [brogers] gms: but I would not say unreasonable [dunjo] oops [brogers] gms: I'm talking about homes [brogers] gms: cars [brogers] gms: telephone conversations [brogers] gms: e-mail [gms] I know, but unresonable searches could apply to what you are carrying around, too. Yer pockets backpack purse. [brogers] gms: yes. that too. [ 12-Sep-01 03:48 ] dunjo@sdf has left ny. [gms] I wonder what airlines will do to prevent this from happening. [gms] Again. [brogers] take more time checking baggage more carefully [santoshb] help [brogers] more attention to passenger profiling [brogers] santoshb: you have to type :help [gms] Coul d passenger profiling be a privacy issue? what if they didn't let someone fly because he was a sikh or from Palestine? [brogers] maybe watch the radar and flight plans more closely [brogers] not racial profiling [ 12-Sep-01 03:50 ] nforcer@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] more like whether or not you varry baggage, or upgrade to first class at the airport. [brogers] statistical profiling [ 12-Sep-01 03:51 ] nforcer@sdf has left ny. [brogers] but racfe will probably come into it too... unfortunately. [gms] Yeah, race is already in drug profiling (or accusations that it is). [brogers] even if it is a truly statistically relevant factor, you can never admit it. [ 12-Sep-01 03:53 ] ranma1@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Ain't that the truth. I can't figure out what that says about which group of people (the profilers or the people who resent the race-based statistics). [ 12-Sep-01 03:53 ] ranma1@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:54 ] vivo@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:54 ] vivo@sdf has left ny. [brogers] ARITCLE ON MSNBC: Did Encryption Empower These Terrorists? [brogers] http://www.msnbc.com/news/627390_asp.htm [brogers] just found it. [ 12-Sep-01 03:55 ] danielk has left ny. [brogers] oh, and the right to bear arms! [ 12-Sep-01 03:55 ] goodgirl@sdf has joined ny. [gms] I'I'm taking a look at that article. BRB. [ 12-Sep-01 03:56 ] vivo@sdf has joined ny. [gms] Yeah, this is gonna do freedom of speech no good at all. [lagoona] good article, btw, i heard american hackers are doing something about the whole incident or something like that [gms] Doing what, lagoona? (FF8?) [brogers] yeah, what??? [ 12-Sep-01 03:58 ] vivo@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 03:58 ] dunjo@sdf has joined ny. [lagoona] breaking into the terrorists sites or something like that [lagoona] i know cyberarmy is joining in [gms] A nice gesture, but I wonder if it'll help the cause. [brogers] wow [dunjo] Might just make it worse. [brogers] I figure US will push other countries harder to restrict cyrpto [brogers] amke it harder to simply develop it off-shore [lagoona] if you goto cyberarmy.com and fail to log in it says that they are "addressing the issue in newyork and washington" [gms] That'd suck. they'll probably get their way. (PUshing other countries to make more restrictions.) [brogers] publicly mounted face recognition camers might become a really popular idea with the govt now. [brogers] damn [brogers] maeras [brogers] er, cameras [brogers] I've heard from many people today that their ISP went down for one-four hours [gms] Do you think that'll be bad? Seems like it might be one of those "less privacy but full anonymity" things, which aren't necessarily bad. (I'm undecided.) [brogers] I bet they were installing Carnoivore devices. [brogers] I would hate to be a moderator in an AOL chat room tongight [ 12-Sep-01 04:04 ] santoshb@sdf has left ny. [dunjo] lol [gms] Why AOL chat rooms specifically? (Never been on AOL.) [dunjo] People on AOL are usually quite new to the internet. (etiquette) [brogers] I thought of that when talking on phone to someone who was at the time logged into AOL. [gms] Their chat rooms are moderated, not like irc? [gms] Well, I guess irc is sort of moderated. Or could be. [gms] Sort of. [brogers] I don't think they are usually totally moderated continuously. sometimes the moderators are on, and sometimes not. [brogers] I bet all the moderators are watching tonight. [brogers] If I were AOL executive, I would want enough moderators on duty to cover all chat rooms. [gms] This is gonna sound silly, but do you think the railroads will see a business bost? People might be afraid to travel by plane now. [gms] Not everyone, but some people. [gms] Me. [brogers] Can;t say I blame you. [brogers] they might see a bit of business. Lot of would-be airplane passengers might have the jitters now. [smj] I was to fly to dallas thursday. [brogers] and? [gms] Business or pleasure? [smj] american isnt' going to start flying until 5pm tomorrow. [smj] so, I'm cancelling. [brogers] has FAA said when flights will resume? [gms] Why cancelling? They'll start flying 5 PM Wednesday. [gms] Plenty of time for your Thursday flight. [smj] I don't feel like it. [brogers] flights will be packed. [gms] ok. [brogers] or maybe not. [ 12-Sep-01 04:10 ] danielk@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:10 ] evx@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] I'll bet the rental car business is going to se a big boom. [brogers] already has. [brogers] I wonder what gas prices at the pump will be tomorrow. [evx] i thouiy [gms] People are driving instead of flying? [smj] Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, called for a military response to the attacks. All four of the crashed planes had originally been headed for California [brogers] dunno? [brogers] er, dunno. [evx] quit [brogers] type :quit [smj] "To the loved ones of those who have been killed or injured I extend my deepest sympathy," Feinstein said. "Their deaths must not be in vain." [gms] I never liked Feinstein. [smj] the dragon lady with no fucking heart. [gms] And overly dramatic in this case. [gms] Used a cliche, too. [celica] lol [gms] celica, I didn't know you were still here. [celica] yeah, i dont like feinstein ethier [celica] frankenstine [ 12-Sep-01 04:15 ] evx has left ny. [gms] Do you think a non-military response would be possible? [gms] (Otherwise why call for a military response.) [smj] I hope there aren't 'investigations' [ 12-Sep-01 04:16 ] fattrat@sdf has joined ny. [fattrat] hey pehey [gms] Investigations into what? And why do you hope there aren't any? [fattrat] peeps [gms] yo Fat T. Rat [fattrat] whast up [ 12-Sep-01 04:17 ] indy@sdf has joined ny. [smj] just the whole lockerby thing. [smj] I want irrational action .. and I want it NOW. [fattrat] that is so messed up its just the beginning [indy] TERRORISTS ARE GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! [gms] smj ;-) [ 12-Sep-01 04:18 ] indy@sdf has left ny. [fattrat] and ol ben doesnt know who hemessing wit [gms] Sure he does. He's messing with the US of A, & he meant to do it. [gms] Whooped us good today, too. [fattrat] thats true [smj] Ihope the data centres in the towers had off site backups. [fattrat] but it only was wrarning he couldve done it better [smj] one investiment firm had 50 floors! [gms] smj, ;-) [gms] Imagine the price of renting 50 floors in a WTC tower! Yikes! [fattrat] damn [celica] its probably pretty cheap [ 12-Sep-01 04:20 ] danielk has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:20 ] lagoona has left ny. [gms] Maybe now that it's collapsed, but before that... [celica] lol [smj] MAKE NO MISTAKE... THIS IS WAR (arizonian republic) [celica] yeah... bad joke [fattrat] hehe [gms] That's a pretty significant change in the NYC skyline, I guess. [smj] so its only the 11th .. would rent be prorated? [gms] We won't be rebuilding them any time soon. [gms] (Gotta build something better next time.) [smj] it was actually structured well. [fattrat] yea but not for planes [gms] The WTC or the attack? [celica] yeah, with moarter and brick [celica] it was sturdy [smj] Hey you guys want to see some pictures of NEW YORK I took? [smj] let me upload them. [ 12-Sep-01 04:22 ] geekster@sdf has joined ny. [geekster] help [fattrat] whats wrong geek [brogers] geekster: type :help [gms] type :help [geekster] s [dunjo] damg, beat me to it [ 12-Sep-01 04:24 ] conmin@sdf has joined ny. [geekster] sorrsorry, slipped with the : [brogers] geekster: lots of users are new in com and don't know to use : [fattrat] hey im in here the first time so i dont know [gms] I think smj used a : instead of a / just to mess with people who've used irc. [conmin] whta do you all thinkoff the terrorist attack today? [fattrat] sooner or later wouldve happend [brogers] agree [geekster] It really sucks... I'm from Canada but have friends in NY [smj] okay guys.. hee are my pictures of newyork: http://freeshell.org/newyork [gms] geekster, Did any of them buy it today? [brogers] this is straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, only slightly different. [dunjo] Might no've happened if Bush had paid more attention to a very serious situation. [brogers] "buy it" is a little insensitive, don't you thoink? [conmin] that guy , Tom Clancy was jusrt on channel 4 [brogers] dunjo: how's that? [brogers] conmin: what did he say? [gms] Yes, but "die" is unimaginative, & "buy it" up16 s short enough to type. [gms] Apologies for being insensitive, though. [conmin] he said he wasn't dgoing to write novels on terrorism anymore [gms] geekser, Did you lose any of your friends today? [dunjo] My favorite bush quote, whne a reporter asked about the middle east, "Every time I see you people, you always ask mr anbout that" and that's all he said. [brogers] conmin: havbe you heard from your fiends in NY? [conmin] and thet the true was worse than fuction [dunjo] typing is great don't you think? [conmin] oh yeah [geekster] @Haven't been able to find out [brogers] geekster: havbe you heard from your fiends in NY? [jeeves] i think one way we can help is to donate blood for the victims.. i hear there is a shortage. i believe one can schedule appointments by calling call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE [brogers] guh... confused names. [dunjo] That's too many numbers jeeves [jeeves] sorry :) let me verify this.. [conmin] some guys I know have parents who were on those plains [ 12-Sep-01 04:29 ] thebutch@sdf has joined ny. [gms] The switch will drop the final "E". the call will get through. [ 12-Sep-01 04:29 ] ghiejay2@sdf has joined ny. [conmin] or had parents [smj] that second picture will never exist again. [geekster] Unless you want to live in a police state you cant stop this kinda thing [gms] smj, Where are the pics? [smj] freeshell.org/newyork [dunjo] Plus, Bush seems to take the future of the country quite leisurly, what with his 2 month vacations and all. [ 12-Sep-01 04:29 ] conmin@sdf has left ny. [gms] geekster, We were taking about that. [smj] he its the christians. [gms] What freedoms we might lose in the near future because of ractions to today. [gms] What do you think? [ghiejay2] yoyo gyOCOCODOA [brogers] conmin: my condolences to your friends. [ 12-Sep-01 04:30 ] frankie@sdf has joined ny. [ghiejay2] yo guys [fattrat] damn ima go back to germany i guess [geekster] Have any of yu guys flown in europe? [fattrat] i am from europe [ghiejay2] need help here [dunjo] Waddya need ghie? [ 12-Sep-01 04:30 ] thebutch@sdf has left ny. [brogers] ghiejay2: with ehat? [ghiejay2] i'm new and i can't seem to ftp some of my file [gms] smj, What's the pic? A dead cow? [geekster] been through Frankfurt, and the searches etc. area a real PITA! [smj] where? [fattrat] i am from frankfurt actually eschborn main bank got shut down [brogers] ghiejay2: ftp is only avaliable to arpa members. you can use ssh though. [gms] smj, The first picture on newyork/. [smj] its a homeless guy outside the MET museum. [brogers] geekster: or zmodem if your telnet client support is. [smj] the second one is the important one. [gms] smj, LOL [ghiejay2] what's ssh? [gms] You took a picture of that? [gms] and I thought it was a dead cow!?! [brogers] ghiejay2: or zmodem... see above... confused names [gms] Hahahahahahaha! [dunjo] Anyone here write HTML, Javascript, etc.? [gms] I see. the cdaptio says it's a homeless guy. [ghiejay2] yeah me [brogers] ghiejay2: type :goto help [gms] I'm learning. I'm learning. [ 12-Sep-01 04:32 ] jonpaul@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] I'm going to move to he help room [brogers] type :goto help [brogers] and join me there for help [ 12-Sep-01 04:33 ] dunjo@sdf has left ny. [gms] smj, (This is not a joke.) So the two towers in the second pic, to the right. Those are the WTC? [ghiejay2] goto help [ 12-Sep-01 04:33 ] dunjo@sdf has joined ny. [fattrat] yea they are [frankie] I wonder if the guy who hopped the fence of the white house and screamed "The world is in dangre, I have to talk to the president", knew about this attack beforehand [gms] smj, And they aren't there now? Stunning. [smj] yes.. that is lower manhattan. [smj] yes.. they're totally gone.. its amazing.. because they were so HUGE. [ghiejay2] uit [ghiejay2] quit [smj] BTW, I've not heard back from my exgf .. I'm worried. [brogers] ghiejay2: ":goto help" [geekster] are the phoenes working in nyc [gms] They were part of NYC's trademark, sort of. [ 12-Sep-01 04:34 ] cajun@sdf has joined ny. [smj] I don't know if she would have been in the area.. but its possible. [dunjo] brogers ssh is also restricted [gms] She wasn't in NYC, right? Japan, right? [ghiejay2] ":goto help" [brogers] I used it to transfer files and I'm not arpa yet [ghiejay2] how do i get out from here [dunjo] Hmm, weird [smj] no.. exgf [brogers] ghiejay2: wihtout quotes [smj] she is in the pictures futher on looking through the binoculars. [ghiejay2] goto: help [frankie] type :quit [cajun] q [ 12-Sep-01 04:35 ] ghiejay2@sdf has left ny for help. [cajun] quit [smj] the WTC towers are in that picture too. [cajun] exit [cajun] help [dunjo] jargon [ 12-Sep-01 04:35 ] cajun@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:36 ] fattrat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:36 ] gms@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:36 ] frankie@sdf has left ny. [gms] test ignore apologies [geekster] anyone here from NYC? [gms] I see the small child watching from behind the middle glass widnow. [gms] Winders. [smj] neopipil is .. and another person. [dunjo] I was just in D.C. a few moths ago. [geekster] are the phones working? [smj] I think so. [gms] Someone said here earlier that bin Laden *promised* to attack the west coast, too. [gms] Anyone have thoughts on that? [geekster] got to run cul8r! [smj] well, last year that was to happen, right? [gms] smj, eh? [smj] the guy was going to bomb the spaceneedle. [smj] he came in through port angeles and was stopped there. [gms] That's news to me. Fill us in. [dunjo] I don't know much about Osama Bin Ladin, but it's too early to make any really accurate guesse [gms] Oh that guy. [smj] Rasam ? [smj] yeh [gms] Didn't they get him in Port Townsen, nto Port Angeles? [smj] well, he is on top of the list and 3 weeks ago made an announcement on Afgani TV warning about these attacks on the us. [ 12-Sep-01 04:40 ] ngphil@sdf has joined ny. [gms] So he didn't actually do anything? [ 12-Sep-01 04:40 ] geekster@sdf has left ny. [gms] I thought bin Laden threatened us 3 weeks ago. It's the same guy? [brogers] bin Laden is more of an organizer [smj] yes. [dunjo] I was unaware of that [gms] No way bin Laden was arrested in Port Townsend. No no no. [smj] yes he wouldn't go do it.. but he can promise your family $$ and happiness if you give your life for his cause.. do you see? [smj] rassam was arressted in PT. [gms] I see. [smj] his trunk had bomb parts in it. [smj] he came in from canada. [gms] I see the pic of the Emp State Bldg. And the blades "to prevent things from leaving". They're to violate your right s by preventing you from leaping to yer death, right? [gms] The pegion in silluette atop the anti-death-leap barriers is nice. [smj] they're announceing who died.. [smj] the ones they know. [smj] flight 11.. they herded everyone into the back of the plane .. [smj] as they took over the cockpit. [smj] moments later it crashed into the tower. [ 12-Sep-01 04:45 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [ngphil] SEND ngphil [brogers] heh [ngphil] test [brogers] use :send [brogers] with a :" [ 12-Sep-01 04:46 ] tuck@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:46 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:46 ] dunjo@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:46 ] sergiobc@sdf has left ny. [ngphil] thanthanks brogers [brogers] no prob [tuck] whats the time over in the us now? [gms] 9:45 PM on west coast [tuck] k [ngphil] which state are you talking abt? [gms] It's the same for Washingont, Oregon, & Calif. [tuck] here in scandinavia its 6:50 in the morning [smj] are you in finland? [gms] We had a lively discussion going here until a minute ago. [gms] I think everyone else ran to their TVs to see a news cast. [gms] I can't find it, so I came back to type. [ 12-Sep-01 04:50 ] dunjo has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 04:50 ] ck has left ny. [smj] abcnews.com keeps playing the montage over and over again. [gms] What montage? [smj] video [gms] Is abcnews.com a web site or TV channel? (Hard to tell these days.) [brogers] here's a quote from Reuters.com [brogers] A person who answered the phone on the trading floor of broker Cantor Fitzgerald near the top of the World Trade Center said, "We are fucking dying!" when asked what was happening. [brogers] don't know if I should laugh or cry [gms] Yeah, I see what you mean. [brogers] I'm surprised he answered the phone. [gms] Who called, when , & why? [smj] probably habit. [brogers] probly habit, yrah [brogers] Paint me a cynic, but I imagine that was a reporter who called and got that quote. [smj] well, all the fucking WTC stuff is up on EBAY now. [gms] An interesting moment & words to be imortalized. [gms] smj, Did you go to work today? [ 12-Sep-01 04:55 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [smj] GOD some people are selling DOMAIN names.. worldtradecenterdisaster.net ! [smj] how fucking fucking lame. [gms] Tasteless. [gms] Tacky. [brogers] disgusting [smj] I guess I could sell my prints. [gms] At 9:30, they announced that we were closed for the day... [brogers] probably pointless anyway, since people will just go to the URL's they see on the news. Besides, MSNBC.com is easier to tye than that monstrosity [gms] 5 minutes later, they announced that we were closed just for th today, not forever, & that no one should clean out their desks. [gms] Hee hee. [ 12-Sep-01 04:56 ] charlie@sdf has joined ny. [jeeves] hi all, i'm back with the correct number to call for making blood donations. it is 1-(800) 448-3543 Ex 4406. sorry for the earlier mistake. [charlie] i wish there was something i could do from the uk :( [gms] It's the same number, pluse an extension. [smj] Tony Blair was perfect. [brogers] donate blood or plasma [brogers] US actualyl does import blood from UK [charlie] im in thailand atm... theres a bunch of americans that cant fly home... its pretty [charlie] fucked up [brogers] buy them a round of drinks! [smj] I bet. [charlie] yeah :) [smj] thailand is the place to be though. [charlie] i fly home tonight [smj] are you in penang? [charlie] been out here for 3.5 months.... what a bummer of a holiday end [charlie] i was on ko pang nang yeah [smj] the island? [ 12-Sep-01 05:00 ] goodgirl@sdf has left ny. [brogers] tons of WTC items on eBay now [charlie] ya [smj] neat. [ 12-Sep-01 05:00 ] nmucci@sdf has joined ny. [charlie] altho i was mostly on ko tao ... 2.5 months... [nmucci] hi [ 12-Sep-01 05:01 ] gremgrem@sdf has joined ny. [charlie] ive benn compeetly shuty off from all outside news. as soon as i get back to a v i see this... ug... [gremgrem] hello [brogers] hey [smj] you have sdf. [gremgrem] how do you work the news on the SDF mail? [brogers] gremgrem: huh? [ 12-Sep-01 05:03 ] nmucci@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:04 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [gremgrem] There is a news folder in my mail program on this shell... what is it for? and how do i use it? [ 12-Sep-01 05:04 ] betabug@sdf has joined ny. [brogers] gremgrem: off-topic. type ":goto help" and I will help ou t [ 12-Sep-01 05:05 ] tuck@sdf has left ny. [betabug] So what is the latest news (just woke up here in switzerland)? [brogers] the four missing planes were n fact the four plabe crashes, so all planes are now accounted for [brogers] people called from cell phones on the planes [betabug] Any news on the background of the terrorists? [brogers] no [brogers] there seems to be a media blackout [brogers] military is saying precious little [betabug] shit, what a world! [smj] you're right. [ 12-Sep-01 05:10 ] gms@sdf has left ny. [smj] we're barely getting any information. [ 12-Sep-01 05:10 ] gremgrem@sdf has left ny for help. [betabug] also I fear what this will all turn out to, possibly a major turnback on privacy [smj] I just say be honest up front.. [smj] ther eis public and private information. [betabug] and even worse, more bombs and a spiral up of hate and hurt [ 12-Sep-01 05:13 ] ngphil@sdf has left ny. [smj] hijacker's seat number has been revealed. [smj] on the 11 or 93 flight. [betabug] I think they have a chance to trace the hijackers back, because now [smj] a flight attendant said two attendants were stabed and the cock pit was broken into . [betabug] the people who suht their mouths will talk [smj] yeh. [smj] the flight paths were annoucned too .. its so obvious all four of them were hijacked. [betabug] our society is vulnerable, which isn't news really [smj] well, its just convenience and freedom. [brogers] knowledge and belief are two entoirely different things. [ 12-Sep-01 05:18 ] charlie@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:18 ] ezfn@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:19 ] ezfn@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:19 ] lebmd@sdf has joined ny. [betabug] yesterday at 11 pm (swiss time) we finally heard from our ny relatives, they were fine [brogers] glad to hear it [betabug] they worked in manhattan, but not really close to wtc [ 12-Sep-01 05:21 ] juliusl@sdf has joined ny. [betabug] gotta go to work now, maybe I'll come back later [brogers] anyone having problems getting to icq tonight? [ 12-Sep-01 05:21 ] betabug@sdf has left ny. [brogers] er, now [juliusl] hi brogers [brogers] heh [juliusl] well I was here this morning...not until it's was too many ppl oin hre [brogers] my pet thepory is that ICQ is down for Carnivor installation [juliusl] (blur) [brogers] good night all [ 12-Sep-01 05:26 ] brogers@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:27 ] lebmd@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:29 ] stdio@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:32 ] hagoth@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] hi [hagoth] hi [juliusl] where r u from (in US?) [hagoth] just wanted to see if the discussion on the crashes was new [hagoth] tx [juliusl] ooic..actually it's getting abit confusing here [juliusl] actually i'm from MTY [juliusl] sorry [juliusl] Malaysia [hagoth] my dad went thre on vacation [hagoth] there [hagoth] oops [ 12-Sep-01 05:36 ] jeeves@sdf has left ny. [hagoth] does anyone know if the pentagon can be run from the outside? [hagoth] i knew the 'puter guy when he was still a colonel [hagoth] bernie skoch [juliusl] no idea :0 [ 12-Sep-01 05:41 ] wm@sdf has joined ny. [juliusl] heyz hagoth...which part of Malaysia did ur dad went to? :0 [hagoth] just got back [hagoth] sorry for the horrendous delay... [hagoth] i really don't know [juliusl] heyz...no sweat dude [smj] abcnews.com now!! [hagoth] i shall have to ask him--he lives on okinawa, jp [hagoth] alright noble admin! [hagoth] to abcnews... [ 12-Sep-01 05:52 ] anticore@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:53 ] jcwu@sdf has joined ny. [anticore] exiexit [hagoth] ive got ot go to sleep--thanks for the talk :) [ 12-Sep-01 05:53 ] hagoth@sdf has left ny. [anticore] exit [smj] they just ran a tape on bin laden. [smj] Its just interesting information. [jcwu] q [ 12-Sep-01 05:55 ] jcwu has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:55 ] wm has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 05:55 ] ladams@sdf has joined ny. [ladams] hey [ladams] wanna know someting? [ladams] thisisgonnamake it hell for american moslims [ladams] its too bad [smj] its true. [ladams] they did nothing [smj] militant muslims and jihad inparticular. [smj] Well, they did.. jihad means religious war. [ladams] militant religion [smj] religious wars have been going on forever. [ladams] yes, i understand [ladams] they get allah's garden [smj] I don't doubt there are peaceful muslims. I have friends. [ladams] i shouldnt have typed that [smj] No, its okay. [ladams] fbi probably now has my op for doing that [ladams] plus this isnt a secure shell [ladams] ip [smj] there are many people who come to the US and are anti-american .. they only live here to make $$ and then go home.. [ladams] ohh i have friends in school who are really kewl [ladams] they dont hate america [ 12-Sep-01 05:58 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [ladams] in fact ill bet thedy rather stay here [pietro] hi [ladams] hello [pietro] any news about the attack? [ladams] yes [ladams] the fourth plane [ladams] destined for the white house [ladams] was overpowered by the passengers [ladams] thatsvery good news [pietro] the one that crashed in pittsburg? [ladams] i beleive so [pietro] good news... [ladams] i must leave, my dad is getting mad at the whole thing on tv [ladams] ill be back [ladams] ;D [pietro] see you later! [ 12-Sep-01 06:00 ] ladams@sdf has left ny. [pietro] i', going too, i shall work! [pietro] g:who [ 12-Sep-01 06:02 ] pietro@sdf has left ny. [juliusl] okies...gtg...bye ppl! [ 12-Sep-01 06:03 ] juliusl@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 06:05 ] id240@sdf has joined ny. [id240] quit [ 12-Sep-01 06:10 ] id240 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 06:13 ] goodgirl@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 06:15 ] jonpaul@sdf has left ny. [ 11-Sep-01 23:15 ] pagurus@sdf has joined ny. [smj] I've heard that the FAA has cancelled all flights until at least noon thursday. [ 11-Sep-01 23:15 ] pagurus@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 06:17 ] ladams@sdf has joined ny. [ladams] so im back [ladams] yes true [smj] the usa is trying to sleep I tink. [smj] think. [ladams] the thing is, damage was done [smj] I was supposed to fly on thursday monring .. [ladams] and all this unnessasary precautions is not needed [ladams] they wont strike again for anotheryear [ 12-Sep-01 16:19 ] neko@sdf has joined ny. [ladams] that sucks [ladams] is that time sensitive for you? [smj] well .. www.ifcfbi.gov [ladams] your flight that is [smj] its too busy :) [smj] Yes.. my flight would be cancelled. [smj] but I don't want to go. [ladams] hmm :D [ladams] OSOSillreturn later again [smj] I better get to sleep soon.. [smj] okay. [ladams] good night then [ladams] sleep well [ 12-Sep-01 06:20 ] ladams@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 06:21 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [pietro] what's the time over there in usa? [ 12-Sep-01 06:21 ] inferno@sdf has left ny. [smj] in seattle its 11:23 [smj] there are four time zones here. 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[ 12-Sep-01 08:05 ] banglore@sdf has joined ny. [banglore] hi [ 12-Sep-01 08:06 ] banglore@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:07 ] icbm@sdf has joined ny. [icbm] hi [ 12-Sep-01 08:12 ] hub@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:12 ] borys@sdf has joined ny. [borys] hi d [icbm] hi [hub] heya... Just waking up [icbm] heh~~~ [borys] hwhats up? [hub] not too much. Just reading the jolly news. [borys] i'm new here - what is SDF?? [hub] erm, I'm going to look dumb here by not knowing what it stands for :) [borys] where is SDF [hub] You mean where's the server? [borys] yes [hub] Erm, america :) [borys] ;-) [borys] where r u frm? [ 12-Sep-01 08:19 ] tolmie@sdf has joined ny. [hub] England, but I'm in Scotland now. And you? [ 12-Sep-01 08:19 ] niknov@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:20 ] celica has left ny. [tolmie] imimt: [niknov] hi guys [tolmie] im from scotland [icbm] i'm from china [niknov] i'm from moscow [borys] and i'm frm poland [tolmie] anyone here from usa [niknov] i don't think so it's too late there [tolmie] thought so [ 12-Sep-01 08:22 ] betabug@sdf has joined ny. [tolmie] how is moscow these days [niknov] more ormuch the sam ^: however everyone (almost) feels sorry for american tradegy [tolmie] its terrible [borys] in poland too [niknov] we had the same situation last yera when a bunch of Chechens exploded several houses hundresd of people were injured :(( [borys] niknov - why almost... [tolmie] do u know where dagastan is [ 12-Sep-01 08:24 ] betabug@sdf has left ny. [niknov] because there some assholes which called themselves patriots and nationalists, they went to american embassy here in Moscow with posters - 'this is a feedback for Yugoslavia' all happy and pleased ... motherfuckers! [niknov] tolmie: where? [tolmie] dagastan, south of russia [ 12-Sep-01 08:26 ] digdug@sdf has joined ny. [niknov] tolmie: you the ment dagEstan ?? [digdug] jeez [digdug] /:HELP [digdug] err [digdug] QUIT [digdug] drunken this isnot good [tolmie] yes sorry [ 12-Sep-01 08:28 ] digdug@sdf has left ny. [tolmie] how bad is it there [niknov] tolmie: what's going on hthere? [tolmie] im not sure, heres y i want to know [tolmie] i come from glasgow [icbm] who knows teh tenlet vulnerability for linux [tolmie] we have a fotball team called glasgow rangers [icbm] teh telnet [tolmie] they r supposed to b playing there on thursday [tolmie] but they have refused to go [tolmie] because of fighting [tolmie] is it a safe place [niknov] you mean football fans' fighting? [tolmie] know [tolmie] nope [tolmie] there are bombs and everything going off there [ 12-Sep-01 08:32 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:32 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [borys] ? [niknov] really ??? and whop's bombing?? [ 12-Sep-01 08:35 ] icbm has left ny. [tolmie] not sure, [ 12-Sep-01 08:35 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [tolmie] what do u do in moscow [borys] how old r u ppl?? [ 12-Sep-01 08:39 ] helios@sdf has joined ny. [borys] hej !!! [ 12-Sep-01 08:39 ] itvthor@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:40 ] hub has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:40 ] borys@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:41 ] itvthor@sdf has left ny. [rte] so how is everyone feeling? [ 12-Sep-01 08:45 ] helios has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:45 ] tolmie has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:55 ] vegan has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 08:55 ] dt@sdf has joined ny. [dt] anyon ehome? [rte] i'm home [rte] whats going on man? [ 12-Sep-01 09:04 ] miradcha@sdf has joined ny. [miradcha] fucken terrible... [ 12-Sep-01 09:05 ] jyunyakb has left ny. [dt] this is so incredible.. [dt] i mean that in the correct meaning of the word [miradcha] its unbelevable [miradcha] just how can that happen? [dt] u in the states miradcha? [miradcha] no in aus [miradcha] i woe up and dad just hands me the paper [miradcha] are you? [ 12-Sep-01 09:09 ] ykcheung@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:10 ] towny@sdf has joined ny. [towny] I'm from aus, so i stayed up from 11:00 to 5:00amODODODODODODODODODODO [miradcha] i just asaw this mornin [towny] i was so amazed, what did the states do to piss them off [dt] what did they not do is more the qquestion, but now is not really the time for questions like that i think... [miradcha] wha did they not do?? [ 12-Sep-01 09:13 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [towny] i just think that they did not deserve it, no one does [miradcha] yeh [miradcha] and people were celebrating... [towny] no shit, the palastines [towny] assholes [djm62] I'm suprised we haven't seen more schadenfreude [dt] schadenfreude? [towny] it was kids as well, i think they should show the kid s the dead bodies [djm62] ="german: shameful joy" [towny] how can kids celebrate people dying [miradcha] no i do not know what schadenfraude is, please inform me cos im dying ot know (simpsons) [dt] well the us residents celebrated in the streets both the bombing of iraq and the bombing of hiroshima.. that is only human nature. [miradcha] yeh [djm62] at least it happened to rthem [towny] hmmm, good point [miradcha] ive gtg, goddess bless those who died, and curse those who organized it [ 12-Sep-01 09:16 ] miradcha@sdf has left ny. [djm62] aye [djm62] there was no need for the bloodshed [towny] i think that Binladen guy did it [djm62] if they had pulled this off, but without killing so many [towny] he said on tv "My top priority is to destroy the US" [dt] i am stillhopinh like hell it was americans behind it. [djm62] they woulld almost have had support [djm62] dt: me too [rte] it wasn't americans [rte] i'm sure of it [dt] it wouldnt make the dead less dead, but it would help prevent that more join them [rte] no one could be so heartless to their own country [towny] they could've done it without blood shed, but it is too much effort, and it's not their problem, so they dont hafta worry [dt] rte: how old are you? [rte] 19 [dt] one of their own kileld over 800 people with a bomb in oklahoma just a few years ago [djm62] towny: think of this as a publicity stunt [towny] it has been on the news 24hrs a day here [djm62] it's not an act of war, they can't win a war [rte] i know about that..it ripped through 3 underground levels... [towny] if it was war, they would tried their hardest to get the whitehouse [dt] dunno about that, the building split down the middle..... half of it just fell off.... [rte] but i dont think anyone would be sick enough to attack their own country with 4 planes...expecially the most important parts of their country [towny] and they didn't, they left it [djm62] nobody in the world supports people who kill indiscriminate civillians [dt] towny, hitting the white house does nothing, other than be a symbolic act. [rte] it is obviously a jealousy attack from a country who is not as well off [towny] hereheer [dt] rte: sorry, butt you are very naieve... there are millions of places where the people bomb their own countries. [djm62] poverty != evil [rte] i know dt [dt] where you at rte? [djm62] It is obviously an attack from somewhere less well off because everywhere is... [djm62] and a lot of people, perhaps rightly, blame america [rte] maybe i am naieve, but all i can dois hope that the world isn't so fucked as to do this kind of thing to its own people. [djm62] the world has [rte] i'm from Aust [dt] over and over again [djm62] tre: nationalism isn't the issue [djm62] *people* have killed *people* [rte] all you can do is hope that when they find out who it was it wasn't an american [ 12-Sep-01 09:23 ] towny@sdf has joined ny. [towny] im from Aust [towny] as well [djm62] austria? [dt] well then i worte: no, the opposite, i hope it *was* americans, i dont think it was tho. [rte] dont start thinking its your own people...what kind of nation are you? isn't everyone innocent until proven guilty? [rte] Australia [rte] down unda [djm62] rte: wtf [rte] kangaroos...you know [dt] because if it wasnt americans , then the world is gonna be in a whole lot of hurt now when bush pulls out his dick and marches off to fuck his enemies [dt] he has been just waiting for an excuse. [djm62] if it's their own people, we won't be breathing air in a while[6~ [djm62] sorry vice versa [rte] i know..but at least we all have a very good reason to rid the world of terrorists once and for all. [dt] agree@djm [rte] how long have we been hassled by them? [djm62] what does woorry me is what else a group that professional would have [dt] rte, that is not possible [djm62] like, nuke+bio [djm62] *I* colud get smallpox [rte] i know its not, but we can at least give them a walloping...and it wont be one on one...too many countries dont like the middle east for their terrorist actions... [djm62] so I'm not going to assume they don't [ 12-Sep-01 09:26 ] itvthor@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:26 ] embo@sdf has joined ny. [rte] i really dont want a war...especially a world war...but i dont want anything else like this to happen [rte] so i'm hoping it was a terrorist and that they can be eraticated [rte] eradicated even [dt] you cant erradicate terrorism [djm62] rte: how many innocent would you kill, on the grounds of them being muslim>? [embo] hi all ! are you all american [djm62] no! [dt] it has existed since the beginning of time. it is = to hate [ 12-Sep-01 09:27 ] vault12@sdf has joined ny. [embo] where are you from [rte] i wouldn't kill anyone on the grounds of being muslim [djm62] so why are you talking about bombing "the middle east" [dt] sorry, i am not interested in having this discussion with somone who is completely alienated from the issues... [rte] i'm not a religeous person [djm62] dt : me? [ 12-Sep-01 09:28 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:28 ] itvthor@sdf has left ny. [djm62] dt: I'm not alienated from terrorism [dt] not yuou djm [djm62] oh [dt] i didnt mean you [djm62] I'm half irish [djm62] had relatives at omagh [ 12-Sep-01 09:30 ] towny has left ny. [djm62] no , the US is going to have to be helluva careful [dt] i am fully irish [dt] born and bred in dublin [djm62] not american [djm62] going to dublin next week [dt] and i am sick the fuck of hearing little boys tlaking like this wasa a movie..... thats why i snapped at rte.. [djm62] in glasgow the new [dt] oooooooh can you not send me potato chips??!!! [djm62] wtf? [embo] quiamericans are quite ... hm [ 12-Sep-01 09:32 ] embo@sdf has left ny. [djm62] sage comment from embo! [vault12] Europe:HELP [djm62] ok [vault12] dotype, never mind [ 12-Sep-01 09:33 ] elanor@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:33 ] elanor@sdf has left ny. [djm62] dt: I'd hate to be a muslim now [djm62] specially with the tension in the uk [dt] if usa goes to a blanket attack against all muslims then they will have a racial war internally as well. [djm62] they can't [djm62] they must know that [dt] apparantly people are screaming at [dt] ack [dt] apparantly people are screaming at muslims in stockholm, sweden as well.. thats insane.. [dt] djm, you know there are loads and loads of young black american men that have converted to islam? [djm62] aye [ 12-Sep-01 09:35 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] wait- recently, like today? [firecat] hi [firecat] what going on? [djm62] or just generaly [dt] no, no, just generally [djm62] good [dt] you have heard of Farkahn? (cant spell) a modern day malcom x.. rekons by any means neccessary [djm62] yeah [dt] so a lot of young black men specifically are converting to islam [niknov] hi all , iam back from lunch [djm62] I read time, and new statesman [dt] so if they just go "get the muslims" full stop, then there will be huge internal pressures... [djm62] I keep up with most things [djm62] how important are the muslims politically>? [djm62] does the government have to keep them happy [dt] its such a non-homogenous group. [djm62] I imagine it will become homogenous if they start roungding them up [dt] everyone thinks that the muslim population of the staes is only "arabs", but its everything from americans (from generations back) to easter europeans, to north africans, etc, etc, etc [ 12-Sep-01 09:39 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [dt] the government consiuders itsself to be a white christian government for white christian americans. [djm62] lmfao [dt] say i dont think they care about "keeping anyone else happy"- [rte] i just heard that police found a car in bostion with arabic instructions on how to fly a plane [rte] dont ask me how true it is tho [djm62] have you been hearing about oldham and bradford? [djm62] uk [dt] rte: that has been confirmd for hours [dt] they have also arrested 2 young men from the arab emarites (of all places) [dt] djm, no, i am in swe3den, whats happening? [rte] i'm in australia, it takes time for the news to reach me [rte] sorry i'm a little slow on getting the updates [ 12-Sep-01 09:42 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [dt] rte: you are on the internet? what are you talkign about takes time to reach you? [ 12-Sep-01 09:43 ] priyank@sdf has joined ny. [priyank] ey all [dt] hi priyank [ 12-Sep-01 09:44 ] itvthor@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:45 ] itvthor@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:45 ] corsica@sdf has joined ny. [dt] its quite fascinating to atch the spread of informationa nd missinformation.- [corsica] eyeysure [ 12-Sep-01 09:50 ] stdio has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:50 ] corsica has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:50 ] econit@sdf has joined ny. [econit] hello [dt] hi econit [ 12-Sep-01 09:52 ] praneshr@sdf has joined ny. [dt] hi prane [ 12-Sep-01 09:52 ] praneshr@sdf has left ny. [econit] is WETC new york has gone...??? [ 12-Sep-01 09:52 ] praneshr@sdf has joined ny. [dt] yes [dt] www.cnn.com [praneshr] where ae u guys from [dt] i am from ireland. i live in sweden though. [firecat] ireland [econit] cograt to abu dhabi for the good job... heuehueuhe [firecat] but i was born in italy [praneshr] good i am fro mindia [dt] firecat: yupo are in irleand? [firecat] not funny econit.... [praneshr] for the first ime i see an active session here in sdf [firecat] yes now i'm in dub [dt] gasp! I am from dublin!!! [praneshr] so what do u do firecat [firecat] azz dt.... [firecat] power of the net! [econit] i'm from indonesiana... :) [ 12-Sep-01 09:54 ] bofhde@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] for the moment i'm over work..i'm looking for..i'm a security consultant [praneshr] netwrok snetworks i sit.. [bofhde] Hi all [praneshr] ae u into newtwork security [firecat] yeah but freelance... [praneshr] what about dt [dt] cool [firecat] me and some bro try to research [econit] oh my connection... :( [djm62] scotland [firecat] no no [firecat] don't worry econ [firecat] you are already stun! := [priyank] hey ppl [firecat] lol [econit] i'm a web designer... :) [priyank] nebody interested [praneshr] what kind of research.. [praneshr] i love network security too.. thats my field of interest [firecat] cyber biology, new security stuff and more [firecat] I hope you don't work for entropy! [ 12-Sep-01 09:57 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:57 ] bofhde@sdf has left ny. [praneshr] whtas that!! [firecat] a security crap company in dub [praneshr] whats entropy ans stuff [praneshr] no no [praneshr] so whats the news guys [praneshr] hello web designer [econit] low bandwith.... :( [firecat] there's some rumors, group of hack try to crash down israelian network... [firecat] low bandit? [firecat] lol [praneshr] i sthat so.. why do they have to do that [econit] i'm outta here people... bye... contact arie@stikomplus.com [firecat] just rage I think.... [firecat] see ya econit [ 12-Sep-01 10:00 ] lonesoul@sdf has joined ny. [praneshr] hey firecat i need some stuff to crack winfodows passwords man what do i do [ 12-Sep-01 10:00 ] weezle@sdf has joined ny. [econit] LOW BANDWITH.. sorry... wrong spell [dt] prane, you need a wen desiner? [econit] bye all [ 12-Sep-01 10:00 ] lonesoul@sdf has left ny. [weezle] cya dude [dt] econit, you pung? [praneshr] no i dont [dt] sorry i scrolled. [firecat] windows pzrd? [praneshr] windows passwords ..yewah [praneshr] here are three computers in my lab and i dont remmember the admin apsswords fo rthem.. [firecat] take window pzd are fairly easy to retrieve, after use a bruteforce program on...it work [ 12-Sep-01 10:02 ] pyresite@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] yeah i know the story eheheh [praneshr] they guy left wihtout what is the name of the prog [firecat] admin prog? [firecat] ???? [pyresite] hey [firecat] hi pyre [praneshr] hi pyre [firecat] let me understand... [praneshr] ok [ 12-Sep-01 10:03 ] priyank@sdf has left ny. [firecat] admin pwzd in windows ? [firecat] so [praneshr] yeah [firecat] when u enter in windows or another window? [praneshr] i need them to install new hardware bu ti am not able to d it thur these other logins so inned some [praneshr] prog that can get me the passwords [praneshr] can u tel me those [praneshr] when u i enter winfdodows [praneshr] sorry windows [djm62] is it a one-way hash in windows? [pyresite] have a look for the LOD site [praneshr] what is that [ 12-Sep-01 10:04 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:05 ] econit has left ny. [pyresite] Legion of Doom [praneshr] whats LOD [djm62] pranesh: did you choose strong passwords [praneshr] what does [firecat] if only the "window" admin window so are easy, press esc and retrieve with f3, if they don't disable the command u find everything [praneshr] i dont know that guy didnot tell me.. [ 12-Sep-01 10:05 ] epyon@sdf has left ny. [praneshr] now i am in the incharge [firecat] is still alive LOD? [djm62] nah [pyresite] im not entirely sure [firecat] ah [pyresite] lots of their stuff is still floating around [firecat] try to give a look at this site www.shadowguild.too.it [praneshr] i tried with the Johnny THE ripper but ouclndo tget to it [dt] hey firecat, you rich? [firecat] yeah I know [praneshr] ok [firecat] i wish dt [firecat] why? [djm62] get *to* it? [pyresite] hehe dont we all [dt] cos i want you to send me food from ireland ;)) [dt] hee hee [firecat] food? naaaa better italian food trust me! [djm62] i've got to try these chips... [praneshr] no the best is the indian food.. [dt] oooooh yeah italian food is great [praneshr] nothing to beat the indian cuisine [dt] but irish "junk food" is better [firecat] the best food is our food..what we like.... [pyresite] rogan josh [dt] man indian food is also amazing.. there is no indian food here :(( [pyresite] mmm [djm62] pranesh is it as good in india as in glasgow? [firecat] spaghetti alla puttanesca [djm62] home of pakora [firecat] typical [praneshr] yeah.. [praneshr] indian food tastes the best here.. becuse if the fresh spices that are gorwn ahere [firecat] what kind of research u do in dub? [djm62] I know a lot of people from india originaslly [praneshr] is that so.. [praneshr] who are they [djm62] no indian citizens, oddly [praneshr] wher ae t [djm62] guys at uni [pyresite] whoa we have a truly multicultural room happnen here [firecat] need workers? [praneshr] good indeed [firecat] hee hee [praneshr] what for?? [firecat] security consultant! [djm62] I can lay bricks [djm62] and BS [firecat] me as well! [firecat] hee hee [praneshr] i will do the [3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~ [firecat] basically i can do everything...for a reasonable wagesss... [dt] me too me too!!! [djm62] firecat- how hard is it to get work in security [firecat] really hard if you find only crap agency... [praneshr] seriously i wanted to knwo about htis too.. [djm62] I was unemployed this summer [djm62] cos I didn't knoiw how to program [firecat] i'm still unemployed.... [djm62] so I used the time [firecat] but I know how to program [djm62] learning to program [ 12-Sep-01 10:11 ] miklor@sdf has joined ny. [praneshr] what do u progra in.. [djm62] c [praneshr] what language do u use firecat [firecat] C/C+ [pyresite] pythons a good starter [firecat] Yeah I know... [praneshr] how good i spythin.. [djm62] I've heard it raved about [firecat] but also VB is easy [djm62] VB [dt] whats the deal with python? [djm62] non - portable [firecat] Visual Basic [dt] i dont understand, people talk about it in the same sentance as php [firecat] php? [djm62] apparently like perl, but with c-like syntax [praneshr] whats that [djm62] IIRC [praneshr] expand it [dt] hmmm [firecat] I think it depend how u wanna do... [firecat] some stuff are good for website [firecat] some for security [firecat] some to hack hee hee [praneshr] take a lokk at astalavista.com [dt] are there no drag n drpo exe makers? [praneshr] good for security realte stuff [djm62] mm php520is520vulnerable [dt] like frontpage for applications ;) [phm] yeah MS VC++ [djm62] dt: why wou;ld you want to [dt] like really simple ones... [firecat] astalavista is good, but i prefer google or dmoz [dt] cos there are a couple of small progs i wanna mamek , but i dont want to learn a program lang just now. too busy with web-based prog langs. [phm] use MFC [praneshr] dt get to learn VB thats very eay [djm62] pranesh: where in india are you? [praneshr] in Pilani [djm62] N/S? [praneshr] final year [praneshr] ijn college [ 12-Sep-01 10:15 ] miklor has left ny. [dt] i would rather not learn anything at all than learn something as crap as i have heard VB is [praneshr] BITS PILNAI [phm] user c++ and MFC [djm62] VB isn't portable [praneshr] yeah [firecat] for commercial interface i think VB is good...and easy to learn...don't u think? [djm62] what are you doing [praneshr] thats right nbut for samll rpograms thats quite easy particularly i f u are starting [djm62] last time I touched basic was on a 6502 [praneshr] i have got to learn VC++ 6.0 [praneshr] and of course CGI [praneshr] is it difficult to get to these.. are they crap [dt] i wanna learn c++, that is the most flexible right? for exe progs? [firecat] not really difficult cgi... [praneshr] where do i get to use them really [phm] c++ will do anything [djm62] dt: probably [praneshr] where do i use cgi [djm62] dt: you need to tell it to do anything [ 12-Sep-01 10:17 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] uhm... [dt] i only find sites that want to teach c++ to c people... not c++ from scratch for dummies [djm62] so learn c [phm] well you can 'make' a text editor withut writing any code [ 12-Sep-01 10:18 ] epyon@sdf has left ny. [djm62] it's used a lot, so my programming friend tells me [firecat] www.shadowguild.too.it go and take a look in programmers zone [firecat] there's some nice and easy tutirial [praneshr] on what [firecat] with some implementations [dt] ooh yhea =? [firecat] C and more stuff related.... [dt] bah!! djm, why would i learn c just to relearn everything for c++ ` [djm62] is this room still called ny [praneshr] why?? [djm62] dt: don't you like learning [phm] most of c is the same [djm62] ;> [dt] yeah , but thats doesnt mean its the only thing we can talk about :) [phm] backwards compatability [praneshr] c is the best base for everything dt [dt] djm, i do like learning, but i have priorities.. [dt] i have many things that i need to learn that must take precendence over what i just *want* to learn for fun [djm62] like calculus before counting [praneshr] u master c then u can get to dp anything in any lang.. [djm62] c++ is a superset of c [phm] smj would tell you to start on lisp [firecat] for calcolus there's some specific programs, i remember a friend of mine..but not at the moment [dt] hmmmm..... [djm62] firecat: got a good schrodinger equation one [ 12-Sep-01 10:21 ] nialoo@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] animated graph of the 1d schrodinger equation [firecat] not for me...i'm ignorant about it!!!! [djm62] I'm physicist [firecat] i'm selfmad..so not really [ 12-Sep-01 10:21 ] vault12@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] techs [dt] i :quit [ 12-Sep-01 10:22 ] dt@sdf has left ny. [djm62] Cya [djm62] I tried to learn C== [nialoo] you guys [djm62] ++ [nialoo] know anything about micq? [djm62] before c [djm62] yes [firecat] hi nialoo [nialoo] Heya :) [djm62] nialoo: what up? [phm] if you learn c++ you are learning c [ 12-Sep-01 10:23 ] mvv@sdf has joined ny. [nialoo] I'm getting it hassling me about discarded pakcets, and then it quits due to an "unstable connection", but i know it's not [djm62] how do you know [nialoo] I've made sure it's not anything else by using controls, as you would say [pyresite] hihi [nialoo] Hey [firecat] discarded packets? [pyresite] soz a few minutes behind the rest [ 12-Sep-01 10:24 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [pyresite] hehe [nialoo] Yeah.. contact list.. clear server messages.. that kind of thing [firecat] ah [ 12-Sep-01 10:25 ] praneshr has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:25 ] djm62@sdf has left ny. [firecat] all the tcp tales.... [nialoo] I'll log ion, and get all messsages from online sends, and no info on who's online, and then it quits out.. [firecat] it depend what sys run... [nialoo] Sorry about the typos.. can't see my writing and of course we have the lagged nz->US connection :) [firecat] yeah [nialoo] Hope you guys did't know anyone in the attacks today [firecat] we looking for news... [pyresite] gtg [pyresite] cya peeps [djm62] Cya [ 12-Sep-01 10:27 ] pyresite@sdf has left ny. [nialoo] Sure.. of course [djm62] are people really alive in the rubble [nialoo] STill not much word on who was in the WTC's.. gee [nialoo] Tehy're getting cellphone calls huh? [firecat] sad... [djm62] yeah [djm62] they've destroyed any sympathy for their cause [phm] they are no sane people [ 12-Sep-01 10:28 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [nialoo] I keep on hearing about Iarqi responses.. all those Eastern militant groups' reactions to the attacks.. but no news on how the rest of the world feels about their opinions [phm] not* [nialoo] Not response on their response, you know? [djm62] by the looks of things, they could have run rings round security flamboyantly and bloodlessly [nialoo] So yes huh.. all knew that they're going to get found out, and the US is going to come down on t [nialoo] hem really hard [nialoo] And yet they still attacked.. [ 12-Sep-01 10:30 ] weezle has left ny. [firecat] still? [djm62] if they hadn't killed so many people, the world would be laughing at the US [firecat] othe hijaked planes? [firecat] other crashed? [ 12-Sep-01 10:30 ] rebbekah@sdf has joined ny. [nialoo] I just mean they knew they were going to get hard hit by US when they found out.. but they attacked regardless. That's madness [djm62] it could be good in the long run [nialoo] For them? [firecat] too many innocent dies..... [ 12-Sep-01 10:31 ] mvv@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:31 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [djm62] I think that there will no longer be tacet support [djm62] from muslim communtites [ 12-Sep-01 10:32 ] zerop@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:32 ] zerop@sdf has left ny. [djm62] like when republicans started realising that the IRA were thugs, not "our boys" [firecat] uhm... [firecat] different stuff i think... [djm62] mmaybe I'm off the mark [nialoo] Cyas [djm62] but I think that nobody bar the terrorist wanted this to happen [ 12-Sep-01 10:34 ] rafael@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] there's diferent terrorist, usually they have a specific target..is are more generic, they think everybody are "enemy" [firecat] also the religion talk about this [djm62] in effect, by their extremnism, they have separated themselves from any support [firecat] all the world look bad now at them....this mean "madness" [djm62] yep [djm62] but if yasser arafat wanted to sever any links with extremism [ 12-Sep-01 10:37 ] rwin@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] Specially in Europe there's a big tension about immigration, and this actionj I think make some worst stuff... [djm62] now is the Ideal moment [rwin] yeah [ 12-Sep-01 10:37 ] br41ny@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] in kansas all the isr shop are closed....and not only in kansas [djm62] isr? [firecat] yeah israel lian and other [firecat] sorry but i think too many windows open lol [rafael] q.help [djm62] ":quit" [ 12-Sep-01 10:40 ] sek has left ny. [rafael] tnanks [djm62] yeah, oldham will be going wild today [ 12-Sep-01 10:40 ] rafael@sdf has left ny. [djm62] can't believe the BNP got their deposit back [ 12-Sep-01 10:40 ] fautsch@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:40 ] tominato@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] yeah [firecat] also too many interest in middle e., petrol and more stuff....really dangerous moment... [djm62] the US is going to have to tiptoe on this one [djm62] I hope "W" can [firecat] u think? [djm62] I'll spare the dubya bashing, but the man is diplomatically a nightmare [djm62] he's alienated a lot of countries [fautsch] atq [firecat] yeah, like other political mad....look around..there's tension and crazy words... [djm62] is he going to *ensure* that no innocent musloims die in retaliation? [ 12-Sep-01 10:44 ] nofrizal@sdf has joined ny. [rebbekah] quit [ 12-Sep-01 10:44 ] mikea@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] ":quit" [fautsch] there is no way he or anyone can ensure that [ 12-Sep-01 10:45 ] rebbekah has left ny. [nofrizal] quit [djm62] well, unofficially he's probably already too late [firecat] hi rebekkah [djm62] but the US officially needs to get the right people [firecat] maybe [djm62] ie. terrorists != muslims [firecat] barak told he knows all the name....who the kamikaze? [firecat] easy know the name of the kamikaze..but who behind them? [ 12-Sep-01 10:47 ] mikea@sdf has left ny. [djm62] the country involved should deport them' [djm62] quickly and cleanly [fautsch] afghanistan should extradite bin laden as an act of good faith, even if hes not responsible for this [djm62] yeah [firecat] so by the way...WHO really take the responsability? [djm62] but why has no-one claimed responsibility [ 12-Sep-01 10:50 ] nialoo has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:50 ] nofrizal has left ny. [djm62] there's no point to terrorism if your group doesn't gte credit [fautsch] the thing is, whoever claims responsability will face dire consequences [firecat] yeah [firecat] i heard bush don't take seriously the rivendication [firecat] of Jihad [fautsch] as well as the country who hirharbors them. So nobody wants to claim responsability [djm62] rivendication? [firecat] ops sorry some time I try to use italian words in english lol [firecat] "claim" [djm62] ok [djm62] didn't mean to pick [firecat] uhm [fautsch] He better take it seriously. this is no time for being unassertive [djm62] fautsch: he'd better be careful [djm62] as in surgical strikes, not mass bambings [firecat] I agree [fautsch] very true [djm62] fautsch: the US doesn't have a lot of world sympathy in wars [ 12-Sep-01 10:54 ] vault12@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 10:54 ] anthony@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] they need to *show* that they're doing the right thing [anthony] exit [djm62] otherwise, they'll be justifying the terrorists that claim the us is the enemy of *muslims* [fautsch] at least, it appears, most of the world is supportive to the US [firecat] there's no justifying in those act... [djm62] supportive in this [firecat] ok i must go..see later maybe! [djm62] if the US kills civillians, then they'll be just as bad [fautsch] later firecat [firecat] quit [djm62] have we had the first muslim killing yet [djm62] Cya[6~ [ 12-Sep-01 10:56 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [djm62] domestically in US [ 12-Sep-01 10:57 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [fautsch] however, an islamic/muslim country is not representative of the whole muslim community [djm62] exactly [djm62] innocent people are going to die [djm62] because of their beliefs [fautsch] Because of the twisted beliefs of others [djm62] no [djm62] muslims are going to be targets [djm62] across the world [fautsch] I dont believe so. Only islamic fundamentalists [djm62] not officially [fautsch] Unless one were to be as ignorant and evil as they are, and decided to attack anyone who has a different belief system [djm62] but how many people are going to differentiate [djm62] fautsch: you weren't here last night [fautsch] no. what happened? [djm62] quote:"I don't care thatthey're innocent" [djm62] a californian [fautsch] what? somebody actually said that? [djm62] advocating the bombing of palestinian kids [djm62] your average white briton won't differentiate between asian and muslim [ 12-Sep-01 11:03 ] wol26@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] or muslim and terrorist [djm62] so some hapless indians are probably going to lose the shop [wol26] ha11 [wol26] oops [wol26] hello ppl [djm62] fautsch: sorry to break the news [fautsch] let's hope that view isn;t large scale [ 12-Sep-01 11:05 ] anthony has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:05 ] rwin has left ny. [djm62] amen [ 12-Sep-01 11:05 ] wol26@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:06 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:06 ] thephinn@sdf has joined ny. [fautsch] and, speaking of palestinian kids. I was so sad to see how a country could be so evil as to brainwash their youth like that [ 12-Sep-01 11:07 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [djm62] fautsch: where are you? [ 12-Sep-01 11:07 ] thephinn@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:07 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [fautsch] dancing in the streets, without actually knowing what had happened [ 12-Sep-01 11:07 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny for lobby. [fautsch] physically, in memphis, TN. US [djm62] how's the mood? [fautsch] born in Mexico [ 12-Sep-01 11:08 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] no-one in lobby? [ 12-Sep-01 11:08 ] dialer@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:09 ] valmont@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:09 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny. [epyon] [5D[5D[5C[5A[5A[5B[A[B[D[5D[5C[5C[5C[5D[5C[5C[5D[5D:whois djm62 [fautsch] unfortunately, great many people here are, what you called, average white brittons [dialer] c [epyon] u from england? [djm62] no [dialer] how can i leave this r00m?? [djm62] scotland [epyon] i c [djm62] ":quit" [dialer] thx [ 12-Sep-01 11:10 ] dialer@sdf has left ny. [valmont] u can check in but never check out [valmont] he he [djm62] yw [fautsch] manmany muslim mukthere is concern from middle-eastern peoples here that they may be targets for racial crimes [valmont] same here in sweden [djm62] islamic leaders have been condemning the attacks? [valmont] one must remember that all muslims are not fanatics [fautsch] yes. but fear is still present [djm62] valmont- people can't remember that all asians are not muslim [valmont] true [ 12-Sep-01 11:12 ] michaelj@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] hard to believe, racism still exists [fautsch] true, valmont. its terribly how people like the current leaders of countries like afghanistan have twisted the islamic beliefs [michaelj] /me/:sf:HELP [michaelj] arg [valmont] yes [fautsch] well, i must leave now. it was very good speaking with all of you [djm62] Cya [fautsch] rather, both of you [valmont] peace brother [fautsch] bytes! [ 12-Sep-01 11:14 ] fautsch@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:14 ] epyon@sdf has left ny. [djm62] valmont: I heard there was trouble in stockholm [valmont] yo! starfuck! u here? [ 12-Sep-01 11:15 ] angelfly@sdf has joined ny. [valmont] really? [djm62] sorry, thought you were sweden [valmont] didn't hear that...only that they evacuated ppl from the american embassy [starbuck] yeah im here [valmont] I am in sweden [starbuck] yesterday we were on the one hour stand by ;) [djm62] mobs around muslims according to a swede on earlier [starbuck] we are still I think [valmont] cool starfuck :-) [starbuck] yeah I guess [valmont] that's 2 bad if it's true [starbuck] but I dont think anything will happen since I am on training [djm62] that's what I thought [valmont] ? [djm62] och, I'm away for lunch [valmont] okidoki [ 12-Sep-01 11:19 ] djm62@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:20 ] reptile@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:20 ] angelfly has left ny. [reptile] hello ppl [valmont] I'm off 2. bye starfuck! [starbuck] cya [ 12-Sep-01 11:20 ] valmont@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:20 ] reptile@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:22 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:25 ] michaelj has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:28 ] rem@sdf has joined ny. [rem] does any here [rem] knows how to go back to the command prompyt [rem] t [rem] ppl ur here [rem] god this is slow [ 12-Sep-01 11:30 ] jacentyy@sdf has joined ny. [rem] jacent [ 12-Sep-01 11:30 ] deadbeat@sdf has joined ny. [rem] u know how [rem] to get out of this room [deadbeat] hello [rem] i want tne command prompt [deadbeat] lol [rem] deadbeat [deadbeat] u want everything [rem] yeah [rem] almost [rem] 'm new 2 unix [rem] now i'm stuck hre [rem] how do u go out of thi splace [ 12-Sep-01 11:31 ] anarki@sdf has joined ny. [anarki] hello [rem] hi [rem] ru from [rem] k even better pm me [anarki] can someone tell me how i upload files? [anarki] i'm russian [rem] can u tell me how 2 go ouyt [rem] of this place [rem] i'm indian [jacentyy] ?????q [rem] anarki [rem] go 2 this site [anarki] wait [anarki] can't remember [rem] nmt.edu/tcc [anarki] wait a sec [rem] k [anarki] i will leave then comeback [ 12-Sep-01 11:33 ] elanor@sdf has joined ny. [rem] k [rem] but how do u go out [rem] tell m ethtat [rem] command 4 tht [ 12-Sep-01 11:34 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [rem] ela [rem] elanor [elanor] hey [rem] hope u'll help me [ 12-Sep-01 11:34 ] anarki@sdf has joined ny. [elanor] with what? [ 12-Sep-01 11:35 ] jacentyy has left ny. [anarki] QUIT [rem] won how to [rem] quit [anarki] erm [anarki] doesn't work [ 12-Sep-01 11:35 ] anarki@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:35 ] anarki@sdf has joined ny. [rem] how to get out of this room [anarki] do you want to leave the room then? [anarki] type in ":QUIT" [rem] i'll come back [elanor] all commands start with a colon (':') [phm] ':quit' [rem] i want 2 learn [rem] k [rem] thanx [ 12-Sep-01 11:36 ] rem@sdf has left ny. [anarki] wianyway [ 12-Sep-01 11:36 ] rem@sdf has joined ny. [elanor] huuhhuh [anarki] how do i upload files in here? [rem] thanx a bunch [anarki] hello...? [phm] rz/sz for upload [rem] nmt.edu/htcc/help/unix [anarki] cheers! [rem] wow [rem] how do u go 2 the root [phm] su [rem] 1 sec [ 12-Sep-01 11:38 ] rem@sdf has left ny. [elanor] haha [ 12-Sep-01 11:38 ] rem@sdf has joined ny. [rem] how do u go 2 the root if [rem] permission is denied [rem] ahe [anarki] anyone knows any other shell providers? i used to use hobbiton.org but it's closed for some reason... [ 12-Sep-01 11:39 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [rem] any ethical hackers [rem] here [rem] phm [rem] how do u go 2 the root [phm] i told you [rem] if permission is denied [anarki] you can't [elanor] cd / [phm] haha [elanor] hum [phm] yeah [rem] there must b some way [ 12-Sep-01 11:40 ] deadbeat has left ny. [anarki] hack it and get a root... [phm] rem: go read a book [rem] thanx a bunch anarki [anarki] hahhahhah [elanor] kick smj and take over his box [rem] yeah tht will do [anarki] so? [rem] so w [anarki] any shell providers? [rem] yeah i saw some1` near the beach [phm] cant say [elanor] just go to google and look for shell account [rem] yep [rem] vsnl.com [anarki] god your sense of humor is hopeless [phm] advertising other shells id forbbiden [ 12-Sep-01 11:41 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [anarki] ok, will try [rem] thanx again [rem] all ur blessings [rem] vsnl.org [elanor] ow yeah...thecolor was kicked here for that... [rem] they do it [ 12-Sep-01 11:42 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] hiya [rem] trust me they doio [phm] yeah. i think he will be allowed back tho. his account wasnt removed [elanor] indeed [ 12-Sep-01 11:42 ] rhdb@sdf has joined ny. [elanor] well i think it's a bit childish...or will i be kicked too now? [phm] heh [rhdb] hello [elanor] hi [phm] smj is funny [elanor] is he? [anarki] hi [rem] hei anyothere telnet sites [anarki] who is smj? [elanor] the master of this sys [rem] where is this sys [rem] somewhere in asia [anarki] oh i see [ 12-Sep-01 11:45 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:45 ] tominato has left ny. [kalensr] Hello all.. [ak1ra] smj is planning ot join the army and fight [kalensr] I thought the system was in texas? [rem] is it [ak1ra] it moved recently ^_^ [rem] i'm not sure [ak1ra] we now have a newer and faster system based in seatle [rem] wow [ak1ra] (i think) [kalensr] Cool.. [rem] even this is [anarki] if [rem] slow [rhdb] i'm a new user, how do i upload my homepage? [rem] 4 me [anarki] i have to fight [anarki] i fight against us [ak1ra] type mkhomepg [rhdb] yeah i di that [rem] usy [ 12-Sep-01 11:46 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [rem] us y [ak1ra] then move files to your html directory [ 12-Sep-01 11:47 ] kalensr@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] and type addlink [rhdb] how? [rhdb] i can't access the ftp.. [anarki] cause i'm russian [anarki] and us will not make friends with russians [ak1ra] to move files use mv file html [rem] c'mon [ak1ra] learn unix! [rem] anarki [elanor] what has that to do with ftp anarki? [rem] thts o;l story da [rhdb] i'm obviously trying,, [ak1ra] sorry ^_^ [anarki] nothing [anarki] i didn't say it had [anarki] i just have a big lag [anarki] try to ping me... [ak1ra] you need to have arpa privelages to use ftp [elanor] ow [rhdb] it says user rhdb may not use ftp.._ [rhdb] oh damn.. [anarki] by the way, does this server run smtp/pop3? [ak1ra] pop3 yes but no smtp [anarki] i cannot use ftp as well [anarki] do i have to use mapi then? [ak1ra] you have to send mail from within the system [anarki] too fiddly [phm] still uses smtp.,. dosnt it? [anarki] my spelling is getting worse [ 12-Sep-01 11:50 ] codrin@sdf has joined ny. [rem] anarki wht do ya do [ak1ra] but you cant access smtp remotely [anarki] yeah, but i can send email straight off my computer using mapi [phm] so. [anarki] what do you mean, what do i do? [ 12-Sep-01 11:51 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 11:51 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] people are putting flowers outside the US embassy here [anarki] it's weird to realise that a war is coming... [ak1ra] lets not go too far [ak1ra] if there is a war it will be on a regional level, it wont escalate into a world war... [anarki] i'm afraid not [anarki] it will be a WAR [ 12-Sep-01 11:53 ] codrin@sdf has left ny. [elanor] well bye pplz [ 12-Sep-01 11:54 ] elanor@sdf has left ny. [rem] ping elanor [ 12-Sep-01 11:54 ] rem@sdf has left ny. [anarki] hahhaha [ak1ra] ping pong [ 12-Sep-01 11:54 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] hi lads! [ak1ra] orwight! [anarki] hello, whoever you are [firecat] i'm not lol [anarki] where you from? [firecat] ireland [firecat] u [ 12-Sep-01 11:55 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [anarki] i live nearly near you [ak1ra] scotland [anarki] england [anarki] but i'm not english [starbuck] you are ? [anarki] russian [ak1ra] yay now we can do englishman scotsman and irishman jokes ^_^ [anarki] born in latvia [anarki] hahahha [starbuck] ok you now sveta ?? [ 12-Sep-01 11:56 ] rem@sdf has joined ny. [rem] hi robert [anarki] you what? [anarki] hi rem [starbuck] knoe [anarki] i don't know sveta here [starbuck] ok [rem] wht don u do [ak1ra] starbuck how it going in canada? [starbuck] just fine we're still on stand by I think [starbuck] but everything is calm [ak1ra] here all the U.S bases are securing up [rem] wht do u do robertany news on who's responsible [starbuck] here too [ak1ra] as well as the RAF and army bases [anarki] they better do! [rem] any arresteany arrests [ 12-Sep-01 11:58 ] wolfchar@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] no [starbuck] not here though [rem] k [ak1ra] my mum is US navy, she cant tell me whats going on... shes in the gulf at the moment [starbuck] ok [anarki] rem, why don't you switch the echo on, and stop typing in stuff twice [rem] thk even the pilot is involved [ak1ra] type :echo [starbuck] here we have the canadian intelligence all I can tell is that they must be very busy [rem] yep thks [rem] cause no pilot in the right sense will do such a thg [ak1ra] http://news.mod.uk/ [ 12-Sep-01 12:00 ] rhdb has left ny. [rem] or may b the hijackers tokk hold of the aircraft themselves [wolfchar] that's the current view in england. [ak1ra] jeezuz its obvious! [anarki] i think they just slit pilots throat [ak1ra] people were sending text messages out of the plane saying poeple with knives took over the plane [starbuck] well in lybia thery train people to be able to fly those plane [rem] yep [ak1ra] Qadaffi sucks -_- [rem] and tht pilot must have been damn good [rem] to hit such a target [rem] in the midst of all other buildoings [starbuck] he must have been really minded [ak1ra] the WTC sticks out above everthing [starbuck] trade center is pretty easy to find in new york [anarki] finally they did something that's not symbolic, but is actually damaging economics [rem] yep [starbuck] I think it is symbolic trade center and pantagon [ak1ra] apparently there were 5 planes but the bungling terrorists only succeeded with 3 [rem] pentagon is [rem] with 4 [ak1ra] 4??? [starbuck] trade center is very important to US economic [rem] 1 crashed in [rem] penssyl [ak1ra] the pittsbirgh one crashed! it was on its way to the whitehouse [starbuck] yeah it was heading for camp davis [rem] nmight have been [rem] who was there [anarki] why the hell did they go for pittsburgh? [ 12-Sep-01 12:04 ] piolin@sdf has joined ny. [anarki] yes penguins piss me off, but not THAT much [starbuck] anarki they were going for camp davis [ 12-Sep-01 12:04 ] piolin@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] LOL [ak1ra] kill mario! [rem] who is thetin camp davis now [starbuck] Im not [ak1ra] has anyone played red alert 2? [anarki] mario's alright [anarki] but jagr.... grrrrrrr [rem] osama i would love to kill you [starbuck] Im in canadian force base in kingston [ak1ra] starbuck are u in the reserves? [starbuck] reg force [rem] in the bench ie [ak1ra] it owuld be cool if the south park movie came true ^_^ [starbuck] =op [ak1ra] my fellow americans the canadians have bombed the baldwins [starbuck] I would kick your ass [anarki] haven't seen it.... [rem] where in scotland r u [ak1ra] is it true that after the south park movie cam eout , the canadian government put public info films on TV telling people that they were better than america? [ 12-Sep-01 12:07 ] kd5lct@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] no [ak1ra] im in invernesss [kd5lct] n [rem] tht many sssssssssssssssssssssssss [ak1ra] so my spelling died last night ^_^ [ak1ra] what u gonna do ^_* [rem] god [starbuck] they dont have to tell us that we are the best ;) [ak1ra] it's pronounced zed not zee zed!!! [rem] nopes coll it man [rem] cool it ie [ak1ra] i saw something like that on the nes and they said that canada had been showing that on TV [ak1ra] news even [starbuck] heh I dont know maybe [rem] must b bbc [kd5lct] any:quit [starbuck] well if they did I wasnt watching tv [ 12-Sep-01 12:09 ] kd5lct@sdf has left ny. [starbuck] anyway gotta go [ak1ra] zed is the correct pronounciation dammit -_- [starbuck] cya all laterz [ak1ra] bye [anarki] what does FELONY mean [rem] bye [starbuck] canadian rules dont forget ;) [rem] wow [ 12-Sep-01 12:10 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [rem] dictionary.com [ak1ra] felony is a serious crime in america [ak1ra] her we just call them serious crimes... [ak1ra] ^_^ [anarki] what is it then? [rem] murder [ak1ra] something that the FBI investigate [ 12-Sep-01 12:10 ] wolfchar@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] like murder counterfeiting drug trafficking [rem] yep [anarki] thanks guys [rem] serial killing [rem] and [ak1ra] flying planes into buildings [rem] lol [rem] they also planted a car bomb [ak1ra] yeah, whats up with that, i havent heard much abouit it... [rem] yeah even me [ 12-Sep-01 12:12 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] wb [rem] they don't say anythg abt it at all [rem] not in cnn bbc or fox [ak1ra] we're getting new amateur pictures of the first WTC getting hit [rem] 1st 1 [rem] where is it [ak1ra] yeah [ 12-Sep-01 12:13 ] armence@sdf has joined ny. [rem] which site [rem] or channel [ak1ra] BBC 1 [ak1ra] BBC news 24 [rem] k [rem] then it'll come on bbcworld [ak1ra] true [rem] wht do u do ak [ 12-Sep-01 12:15 ] firecat has left ny. [ak1ra] ? [ak1ra] i'm not asking im telling :) [rem] ur working somewhere [armence] quit [ 12-Sep-01 12:16 ] armence@sdf has left ny. [rem] another 1 [anarki] oh well [anarki] i might leave as well [ak1ra] [A[A[B [rem] k [ 12-Sep-01 12:16 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [anarki] so what was it, sz, toupload files? [ 12-Sep-01 12:17 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:17 ] rem@sdf has left ny. [anarki] hey akira [anarki] sz? [ak1ra] hiya [anarki] for uploading files? [anarki] or something else? [ak1ra] unless you have arpa privelages then you cant use FTP to upload [ak1ra] just send them to ureself in an emaiol [ak1ra] email [anarki] good point! i haven't thought of that [ak1ra] anarki@sdf.lonestar.org [anarki] thanks a lot [ak1ra] ^_^ [anarki] i'll try it right now [ 12-Sep-01 12:21 ] id240@sdf has joined ny. [anarki] how do i check email then? [ak1ra] use pine [ak1ra] type pine at the prompt [anarki] uh? [anarki] oh thanks [ak1ra] it's pretty self explanatory [ak1ra] they may not of got through straight away... [anarki] i guess [ 12-Sep-01 12:24 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:25 ] id240 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:25 ] igor0694@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:25 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [anarki] got to go [anarki] thanks and bye [igor0694] hay [igor0694] y an fron brazil [ak1ra] bye anarki [ak1ra] hi ihor [ak1ra] igor [igor0694] hi y are you [ 12-Sep-01 12:27 ] xserv@sdf has joined ny. [xserv] yo po [ 12-Sep-01 12:27 ] jonasso@sdf has joined ny. [xserv] ehehehhee+ [xserv] where are you from? [ak1ra] scotland [igor0694] brazil [jonasso] sweden [xserv] arbian is in tha house [xserv] no, germany [xserv] whats going on [igor0694] pena que nimguem fala portugues [xserv] heeE? [xserv] what [xserv] ??? [igor0694] portugues [xserv] ah [xserv] ok [xserv] do you speak english [igor0694] espehee [xserv] ? [igor0694] hehe! [ak1ra] sorry igor i only speak english and alittle french [ 12-Sep-01 12:30 ] anarki has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:30 ] ykcheung has left ny. [igor0694] yes [xserv] ? where are they gone [ak1ra] they've left... [ak1ra] ^_^ [igor0694] my ingles is very bad [ak1ra] it's ok :) [xserv] -:) [xserv] bye [xserv] q [igor0694] bye [igor0694] prazer btc com vc4s tanks [ak1ra] bye [ak1ra] These acts shatter steel, but cannot shatter the steel of American resolve [ak1ra] bush comes out with some hillarious quotes [ak1ra] I believe to many of our imports come from abroad [ 12-Sep-01 12:35 ] xserv has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:35 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [jonasso] how to leave the chat? [ 12-Sep-01 12:39 ] argon@sdf has joined ny. [jonasso] quit [jonasso] no :) [ 12-Sep-01 12:40 ] br41ny has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:40 ] argon has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:45 ] ecc has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:45 ] igor0694 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:51 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [hackit] hehe [hackit] type :quit [niknov] dump [ 12-Sep-01 12:54 ] vault12@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:59 ] anarki@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 12:59 ] pma@sdf has joined ny. [anarki] hey niknov where you from? [anarki] hello? [anarki] damn lag [anarki] anyone in there??? [hackit] hello [hackit] hi [hackit] sup? [anarki] nothing [anarki] just sitting in the school [anarki] getting bored [hackit] from what country are you from? [anarki] i live in england [anarki] but i'm russian [anarki] what zabout you? [hackit] im a filipino.. [hackit] from philippines [anarki] cool [anarki] how's the weather? [ 12-Sep-01 13:05 ] pma has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 13:05 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] wb all [anarki] hi cat [anarki] it's dead boringit's dead boring in here... [firecat] yeah? uhm what a bout us? [firecat] US sorry [anarki] it was coming... [firecat] when the end? [anarki] when everybody's dead [anarki] only aussies are going to get away with it [ 12-Sep-01 13:08 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] that's bad... [firecat] so u came from russia? [anarki] sort of [anarki] my parents are russian [firecat] ah [anarki] i was born in latvia, former ussr [ 12-Sep-01 13:09 ] niknov@sdf has left ny. [firecat] i was just wondering in which way russia respond about US [hackit] hmnn.. [anarki] russians are not very keen on us [hackit] maybe they sned people for help..? [anarki] they probably will [firecat] ah... [firecat] and chinese? [hackit] got to go [dvnt] so they think they found some of the cars of the hijackers in the airport parking lots [ 12-Sep-01 13:10 ] hackit@sdf has left ny. [anarki] yeah [anarki] with "how to fly planes" manuals [dvnt] now they are looking around here for other cars of a cuple other guys [dvnt] (I am in south florida) [firecat] uhu [anarki] got to go [anarki] seeya guys [ 12-Sep-01 13:12 ] anarki@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] just came in, didnt know if you guys heard that yet.. [ 12-Sep-01 13:13 ] mrfrog@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey frog.. [mrfrog] hey there [firecat] see ya [firecat] hi frog [mrfrog] hi firecat [mrfrog] where are you guys from? [dvnt] florida [firecat] italy/ireland [mrfrog] k...i am in germany [ 12-Sep-01 08:14 ] aeoe@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] United Nation here? [mrfrog] hi aeoe [dvnt] whats up [ 12-Sep-01 13:15 ] jonasso has left ny. [firecat] hi aeoe [firecat] hi jona [aeoe] hi [mrfrog] dvnt: what did ya tell about those guys [mrfrog] i just came in so i coudln4t flollow you [mrfrog] follow [dvnt] oh, just that they are looking around here for a couple of cars they think might have something to do with it [mrfrog] where [dvnt] they gave out the picense palte numbers and everything [dvnt] plate [mrfrog] ny? [dvnt] florida [firecat] the price of the car is high at the moment..... [mrfrog] oh ok...i see [aeoe] where is that dvnt [dvnt] where is florida? [mrfrog] well...gotta go...c-y@ l8ter guys [aeoe] its the little thing that pokes out of the lower right of the USA [dvnt] later [aeoe] bye frog [dvnt] yeah thats it [dvnt] its a 24 hour drive from NY [ 12-Sep-01 13:18 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] what up oz [ 12-Sep-01 13:19 ] brc@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey brc [brc] hi [ 12-Sep-01 13:20 ] mrfrog has left ny. [osmosis] hi all [aeoe] hi o [firecat] hi os [dvnt] is anyone actually watching the news right now? (im at work) [aeoe] have to get an appointment to give blood here [aeoe] dvnt: no, just listening to radio [dvnt] aeoe: where are you again? I forgot from yesterday.. [firecat] nope [aeoe] oklahoma usa [aeoe] where are you [dvnt] im in ft lauderdale [dvnt] (fl) [aeoe] oh [aeoe] chat are they doing down there? [dvnt] they sent our search and rescue teams up there, and they are having major blood drives everywhere [dvnt] they are looking for a few cars down here that might have something to do with it [aeoe] weird [ 12-Sep-01 13:24 ] mvv@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey mvv [firecat] uhuhuhu [dvnt] its empty in here, yesterday there was like 25 people in here.. [aeoe] tweH [aeoe] yeah [aeoe] maybe they are sleeping [dvnt] tru [dvnt] I wish I was [osmosis] then goto.. [ 12-Sep-01 13:28 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] I think we have run out of stuff to talk about this.. [dvnt] too quiet [dvnt] hey hackit [ 12-Sep-01 13:29 ] dino@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey dino [dino] Hi al [dino] oopps [dino] all [firecat] see later [ 12-Sep-01 13:29 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] we need something to talk about until they find something new.. [dino] ? [osmosis] i would like to say something about but i donīt know to say it in english words.. [ 12-Sep-01 13:30 ] nsomniak@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey nsomniak [dvnt] whats up o? [nsomniak] whats going on [nsomniak] nothing [nsomniak] at school [nsomniak] waiting to hear from my friends in dc [nsomniak] there in the military at the pentagon [nsomniak] but have heard nothing [dvnt] where you at? [nsomniak] in tx [dvnt] early over there [ 12-Sep-01 13:32 ] jdf@sdf has joined ny. [nsomniak] yeah [dvnt] hey jdf [jdf] hey [nsomniak] hey jdf [ 12-Sep-01 13:32 ] ac220v@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey ac [nsomniak] hey ac220 [aeoe] damn [nsomniak] well I am out, class id over for me [nsomniak] is* [nsomniak] later [dvnt] soh ok, later [ 12-Sep-01 13:33 ] s0lm8@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey s0l [osmosis] any of you guys understand spanish? [dvnt] not a lot, but a little [s0lm8] hi all [jdf] i do a little [dvnt] give it a shot [aeoe] nope [osmosis] ahora me entienden? [ 12-Sep-01 13:35 ] ac220v has left ny. [dino] I do speak spanish... [ 12-Sep-01 13:35 ] nsomniak has left ny. [jdf] si [dino] Yo si entiendo Espaniol [dvnt] ok [osmosis] perfecto [osmosis] bueno, que opinan de lo que pasó? [dino] Esta del nabo chavo... no hay palabras no tuvieron mad.... [dino] Is pretty bad, evil guys, they must went down... [s0lm8] que pasa ? [dino] I'm glad the suprise attack lst night to Afganistan.... [dvnt] oh yeah [dino] suposed to be a secret Helicopter straight to the Nort Airport Military Base... [aeoe] ? [ 12-Sep-01 13:38 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 13:38 ] ac220v@sdf has joined ny. [s0lm8] who at[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~HHH [dino] got to go guys.. have a good day... hopefully we can see Pay Back Time [dino] eot [dino] quit [dino] bye [dvnt] later dino [dino] exit [ 12-Sep-01 13:39 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] use :quit [s0lm8] cu dino :) [ 12-Sep-01 13:39 ] dino@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 13:40 ] brc@sdf has left ny. [ac220v] sorry, for weird output. I have something strange with TTY [s0lm8] me 2 [dvnt] ah, it happens.. [ac220v] Hi all, at least it began to work... [phm] stty erase ^h [phm] may help [osmosis] here in Argentina say that this was previsible [ 12-Sep-01 13:40 ] vault12@sdf has joined ny. [s0lm8] this gnoem t [dvnt] well, it should have been, no doubt.. [dvnt] hey vault [s0lm8] this gnome term sux [osmosis] some people [jdf] this is unbelievable [vault12] hi [osmosis] what [jdf] i live only a few miles from the pentagon [ 12-Sep-01 13:41 ] angelfly@sdf has joined ny. [vault12] use konsole, gnometerm sux indeed [jdf] i could swee the smoke yesterday form my office [s0lm8] same like compular [aeoe] wow [ac220v] Well.. Windows TELNET is ecven more suxx... [s0lm8] he wzs 1/2 mile away from the pentagon [dvnt] if it turns out to be definitely bin laden like they think, they are gonna be really messed up, because they know that he warned us he would do it. they didnt take it seriously because he has done it (threats) a few times in the past. [dvnt] and yeah, windoze telnet suxx.. [jdf] i cant believe we didnt see this coming [s0lm8] who . bin laaden N [ac220v] I don't think it's Arab terrorists. [vault12] if yer on windoze, use putty. sdf seems to support ssh with rsa keys [jdf] then who? [phm] there already preparing to hit bin laden and his people [ac220v] That is too [angelfly] Ihope they bomb him soon [osmosis] last night saw a documental about laden in BBC [dvnt] oh really? [ac220v] Well, may be it'as a kind of"joint venture" [dvnt] tru [dvnt] I heard that too [ 12-Sep-01 13:44 ] pmboogie@sdf has joined ny. [vault12] whether he dunnit or not, he has had it coming for a long time (Laden) [dvnt] I would have liked to have seen that documentary [pmboogie] hi all [dvnt] hey boodie [dvnt] boogie, sorry [pmboogie] sokay, hi [dvnt] oh tru, he has it coming.. [ac220v] Arabs alone do not have neither power, nor resources to do so.. even this ben laden [pmboogie] any clues in the US over who did it yet? [phm] anyone could have done it... [dvnt] dont let that fool you about bin laden, though. he has more resources than people think [jdf] he has millions of dollars and thousands of followers [aeoe] bin laden denies it, reports NPR [osmosis] agree [jdf] and lots of time to plan [ac220v] well, maybe... [dvnt] I would deny it too though, to prevent a counterattack so I could get in a few more attacks before they get me... [vault12] ever wondered... what if the drove the planes into some nuclear powerplant, or chemical factories? [dvnt] wouldnt you? [dvnt] oh yeah, that would be a catastrophe [pmboogie] paower plants can withstand such an attack [pmboogie] thats the way they are built with such an attack in mind [vault12] just an example [osmosis] i don't want to kill people only because my religion [jdf] theres a symbolic meaning to destroying the centers of american power and trade [vault12] a weapons factory or chemical refinery would've done too [dvnt] tru, using American Airlines to do it.. [aeoe] There are no nuclear power plants in oklahoma because of an old lady who sued the state and GE corporation.. everyone thought she was crazy [dvnt] really? [pmboogie] is it true that 8 planes were hijacked? [jdf] plus you probably kill more [ac220v] Recently i've overheard a Swedish radio interwiew vhere a well-known expert said that it's "some TOTALLY NEW ORGANIZATION... then y [pmboogie] and 4 shot down? [jdf] only 4 planes [dvnt] not 8, it was 4 [aeoe] power plants could not stand a 767 [vault12] i agree, either someone wants to start wwIII, or some huge international organization was 'showing off' [dvnt] they didnt get shot down. [pmboogie] ok, on news in UK there is a rumour that 8 were hijacked and US military shot 4 down? [jdf] i doubt it [ac220v] sorry, again for output, if itfor output [jdf] it would be on the news by now [pmboogie] ok [dvnt] tI heard from some people in intel that its possible the 4th got shot down but the news is censored [osmosis] i heard the same rumour here in Argentina [jdf] people would notice if 4 more planes were missing [aeoe] pmboogie: CBS denies that [pmboogie] ok thanks for the update, anyone in NY here? [dvnt] nope [jdf] i wouldnt be too surprised if the 4th was shot down [dvnt] me either. [pmboogie] y [osmosis] u can bet your ass [jdf] several fighters took off from dc area shortly before that plane went down [ac220v] also about nuclear plants... they COULD do it. But didn't... that thas attack on national proudness, not a attempt to destroy USA... [pmboogie] yeah i heard from a friend at Norfolk, the skys were full of F16's [dvnt] on the news this morning they had a couple people saying that they had a family member on board that probably fought the terrorists and helped crash the plane so it didnt get where it was going [jdf] that could be it too [ac220v] If it's true they'ere heroes [pmboogie] yeah [ 12-Sep-01 13:52 ] jdf@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey jdf [jdf] i agree if so they are very heroic [dvnt] noone will probably ever know either... [ 12-Sep-01 13:53 ] rei@sdf has joined ny. [ac220v] They WERE...:( [dvnt] i mean if that is what really happened [rei] guys? [dvnt] hey rei [jdf] maybe if they find the voice recorder [dvnt] whats up? [rei] hi there [aeoe] dvnt: wow [dvnt] tru [rei] i was thinking bout the voice recorder too [rei] / [rei] / [phm] hi [jdf] hopefully that will give us and idea what happened [rei] hey pete [ 12-Sep-01 13:54 ] mrfrog@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey [rei] in paeris now [dvnt] hey frog [mrfrog] re [rei] guess what? [dvnt] ? [aeoe] what paris like? [rei] i dropped my laptop [rei] all data gone.* [dvnt] oh damn.. [phm] no way [rei] hey [rei] 20gb [phm] cant be [rei] no frikken backup [rei] yes [rei] in a cyber cafe now [rei] strange keyboard [phm] it will be recovered.,..,.? [rei] it can be for 1400 USD [ac220v] yeah, it might be useful... But bnot mush. This is a"joint venture"- soand they may be from veryorganization wich "has nothing" to do with this [phm] ok [rei] take me years to save that up... [phm] hmm [rei] the black box? [dvnt] what do you need 1400 to recover your data for? [phm] arghh i feel too strange [dvnt] cant you run a forensics tool? [rei] HD damaged. specialist compqny needed. [rei] no no [dvnt] oh ok [rei] its hardware "fault"$ [ 12-Sep-01 13:57 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] wb [phm] laptops are designed to be droped tho [rei] , [mrfrog] wb firecat [rei] this is a keymap [rei] azertyuiop [rei] qsdfggggghjklmų* [dvnt] that sux man [rei] wxcvvvbbbnnnnn,,;:! [rei] yes; [rei] thanx [ac220v] Yes, about HDD recovery... if it's hardware fault, then .... I doubt that evebn specialized company can help... [firecat] problem? [phm] no. the data is still htere [dvnt] so if they are thinking it could be a joint effort, theres gonna be some major ass kicking going on.. [ 12-Sep-01 13:59 ] angelfly@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 13:59 ] kikote71@sdf has joined ny. [rei] mm [firecat] hi kiko [dvnt] hey kikote [firecat] te [rei] eh dare? [ 12-Sep-01 14:00 ] hackit has left ny. [kikote71] hi h [ac220v] That I fear most, is "Major ass kicking". Have you ever booen in Russia? [kikote71] what is booen ? [ac220v] again that damn KEYNIGHTMARE!!! [phm] g.d [ac220v] irt was been...:9 [firecat] keynightmare? [phm] the galactic empire is dying [phm] i read this last [kikote71] hi, someone know for icq klient on lonestar ? [phm] last 5 words i read [phm] then.,...... [rei] i cant read cyber txt cos of laptop [rei] so much data... [rei] č- [phm] grr [rei] 76,000 pix [rei] grrrr [ 12-Sep-01 14:01 ] wassp@sdf has joined ny. [rei] (gb mp" [phm] someone must help [ac220v] yes... there is something strange going on. Non-local echo and bspace do not work, and (the most weird) it's all OK in a shell... [aeoe] [1~i dont [aeoe] micq? zicq? [kikote71] exit [phm] grr rei, why did you tell me this [ 12-Sep-01 14:02 ] s0lm8@sdf has left ny. [rei] life..... [ 12-Sep-01 14:03 ] wassp@sdf has left ny. [rei] gotta go. [phm] it upset me more [ac220v] No, it's a Windoze TELNET [rei] take care [ 12-Sep-01 14:03 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny. [phm] you too [rei] paris is good. [phm] good [rei] hope math is 2 [rei] chuss [phm] argh [ 12-Sep-01 14:03 ] rei@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] they say chuss in paris? [phm] yes [aeoe] did they shut down the eiffel tower? [phm] probably [phm] ack [ 12-Sep-01 14:04 ] kabog@sdf has joined ny. [ac220v] MOST probably. Even here everybody was stirred... [ 12-Sep-01 14:05 ] pmboogie has left ny. [dvnt] hey kabog [kabog] yeah [firecat] see ya [ 12-Sep-01 14:05 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] later [kabog] hot to get in the irc? [dvnt] irc or icq? [kabog] irc [ac220v] Although we didn't shutdown out TV tower [ac220v] sorry, our, not out [kabog] hohow ? [dvnt] do we have irc on sdf? [kabog] i thought u have [ 12-Sep-01 14:07 ] jordi@sdf has joined ny. [kabog] quit [dvnt] we have micq, I dont know about irc.. [dvnt] hey jordi [jordi] hi [aeoe] lemme check [ 12-Sep-01 09:07 ] aeoe@sdf has left ny. [ac220v] This IS irc... only "local" [ac220v] one [ 12-Sep-01 14:08 ] jlw@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:08 ] jlw@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 09:08 ] aeoe@sdf has joined ny. [aeoe] looks like irc works [dvnt] haha! tru.. [aeoe] not sure if you have to be arpa [dvnt] aeoe: are you arpa? [ac220v] yes, you have. I'm npt and I'can't -"permission denied".. [aeoe] i am arpa, muhahaha [dvnt] oh ok.. [dvnt] stop bragging! ;) [ 12-Sep-01 14:10 ] kabog has left ny. [ac220v] well, I diWill disconnect briefly and try to correcrt this aggravating thing... [ 12-Sep-01 14:10 ] ac220v@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] im gonna have to send out my 36 bux pretty soon.. [aeoe] nya nya nya [dvnt] haha [dvnt] how long have you been on sdf? [aeoe] about a year i guess [aeoe] arpa for about a month [dvnt] ah ok.. I have been on for not quite a year yet. I also had a shell with hobbiton.org, but they are gone now.. [ 12-Sep-01 14:13 ] jordi@sdf has left ny. [aeoe] do you know if the red cross takes paypal? [ 12-Sep-01 14:13 ] paulmack@sdf has joined ny. [aeoe] how long were you on hobbiton? i didnt pay here till i felt it would be around for a long time [dvnt] hmm.. I have no idea, that would be a good question.. [dvnt] oh, I was on hobbiton for .. probably about 8 months.. [dvnt] I like sdf, it runs faster too [dvnt] hobbiton always had a pretty significant lag [ 12-Sep-01 14:15 ] kikote71 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:15 ] mrfrog has left ny. [dvnt] im glad I moved my site over to sdf before hobbiton disappeared, I would have been pissed.. [vault12] i believe they do, i read something about that on slashdot (paypall) [paulmack] Hello, I'm a new member of sdf... [aeoe] thanks vault [paulmack] I was wondering: how do you quit a room? Thanks [aeoe] type :quit [paulmack] quit [dvnt] I tried to get redcross.org, but their site isnt coming up [vault12] try a google cached copy [paulmack] Hey, I'm still there! [paulmack] You mean ':quit'? [aeoe] me too dvnt [aeoe] paulmack: yes [ 12-Sep-01 14:18 ] paulmack@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] aeoe: if you get it on google let me know, I get hassled here if I get busted on the net too much.. (at work) [aeoe] ah [aeoe] ok [dvnt] I'll be back in a minute.. [ 12-Sep-01 14:20 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:20 ] ac220v@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:20 ] jonty@sdf has joined ny. [ac220v] Hmm. [ac220v] Backspace now works, but ECHO still has to be local one... [ 12-Sep-01 14:21 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:22 ] jonty@sdf has left ny. [ac220v] At least, Ican correct typos now... [ 12-Sep-01 14:22 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [ac220v] And do a brand new ones too... [aeoe] heh [aeoe] dvnt: i cant even get redcross.org out of googles cache [dvnt] damn [ac220v] fascinating... [dvnt] there are a couple for individual states, i wonder if those will come up [ 12-Sep-01 14:24 ] paulmack@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:25 ] jdf has left ny. [dvnt] I got orange county red cross and minnesota red cross [ 12-Sep-01 14:26 ] ac220v@sdf has left ny for lobby. [aeoe] good idea [dvnt] minnesota rc doesnt say anything about paypal [dvnt] orange county doesnt either, but it has a credit card form [aeoe] ah [ 12-Sep-01 14:27 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [aeoe] well theres probably some way to do it if i go down there [dvnt] hey ak1ra! [ak1ra] Hi ^_^ [ 12-Sep-01 14:28 ] ac220v@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:28 ] jif@sdf has joined ny. [jif] hi [dvnt] hey jif [ak1ra] hiya [jif] hello [ac220v] Hi [dvnt] be right back, [ 12-Sep-01 14:29 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [jif] are you all from ny? [ak1ra] no i'm from scotland [jif] im from ny [aeoe] im gonna go, good luck [ac220v] no, I'm in fac FAR from ny... [ 12-Sep-01 09:29 ] aeoe@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] we're all just interested in whats been happening [jif] well its chaotic [ac220v] me too [jif] schools closed etc [jif] i hear military jets [jif] they look like F16's [ak1ra] It should be getting back to normal tomorrow i heard... with the stock markets etc. [jif] and police helicopters [ac220v] I can imagine... [ 12-Sep-01 14:30 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [jif] 5 arab guys [jif] and 4 americans piloted the planes [paulmack] I just heard a runour about something happening in Stockholm; Anyone has a clue? [jif] arabs connected to flight plans etc [ak1ra] so U.S citizens were involved... [jif] americans piloted [jif] yes [jif] 4 florida men [jif] who attended a school dealing with flights [ak1ra] they had a chip on their choulders then... still cant believe it [jif] so they wereeducated on fflying [dvnt] yeah, I am in florida. they found a couple cars, and got a warrant to search a house already [ac220v] on CRASHING... [jif] what i dont understand is [ak1ra] I'm most interested i the probable retaliation... [jif] why would they commit suicide.. they obviously werent in it for the money [ 12-Sep-01 14:32 ] hackit@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] nope, theres no money, its just the cause they believe in enoughtto die for it [jif] because the people on the plane who called from cell phones [paulmack] Why wouls japs commit suicide in WWII? Same reason... [jif] said the hijackers didnt look foreign [dvnt] tru, kamikaze [ak1ra] it's crazy, I was destroying WTC in red alert 2 (the game) just last week, and now it's all true [ac220v] May be they're fanatics... Maybe someone threatened to their relatives and th [dvnt] dont play no more games ak1ra.. [dvnt] =) [ak1ra] but i like games :'( [ak1ra] mabye im cursed [ 12-Sep-01 14:34 ] hackit@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] how about global thermonuclear war? [ac220v] It has to be happened sooner or later... But it happened real soon... [ak1ra] LOL [ak1ra] how about a nice game of chess? [dvnt] the only winning move is not to play [ac220v] On the war. No, i DO HOPE no. just why? [jif] we are going to do some military campaigns on the country thats behind tthis [dvnt] definitely [ac220v] to whom you would launch missile? [ak1ra] two things i'm worried about 1. my mother is US navy, will she be involved 2. will my fellow british countrymen be involved [dvnt] dont know yet [jif] if the country provided any support to the terrorists whatsoever [dvnt] ak1ra: its possible, [jif] this incindent has given us a reason to attack the enemy [ak1ra] it's probable more like, [dvnt] last night TB said you stand shoulder to shoulder with us (quote).. [ 12-Sep-01 14:36 ] kidman@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] we already have loads of troops in macedonia and a naval task group in the med, [dvnt] hey kidman [kidman] hallohezhez [jif] israel is behind us all the way [ac220v] what do you mean? [kidman] are u sure, jif_ [jif] theyve had their share of terrorism [ak1ra] hell, israel are using this as an excuse , they have already started attacking the palestine areas [jif] and this is the perfect chance for them to team up and win [jif] yup [ac220v] really? [jif] yes [ 12-Sep-01 14:38 ] s0lm8@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] i just saw pictures of guns going off in jerusalem [dvnt] I dont know who exactly is all behind us, but I know that regardless, noone is gonna be opposed to our counter action [jif] they see these bombings everyday [jif] so its obvious they want revenge [dvnt] except the terrorists I guess.. [ak1ra] the U.K has terrorism too... [ac220v] But can't be this just a set-up to frame Arabs... Many dislike them, they're perfect sacrificial "lambs"... [ak1ra] but thats from irish seperatists [ak1ra] could be ac [dvnt] ak1ra: tru, gives the regiment something to do [ac220v] or anti-globalist radicals [ak1ra] most of the fighting isdone by civilians... [s0lm8] ac: o u mean the mossad is behind this ? [ac220v] What??? I? [ 12-Sep-01 14:40 ] starbuck@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey starbuck [paulmack] Anybody has read Runningman by Stephen King? It ends with a airplane crashing in a tower... [ak1ra] no i meant you could be right about global radicals [kidman] dvnt, anz new attacks? [starbuck] yeah any news about the attack and who did it ? [ak1ra] apparently there have been arrests [ac220v] I have to go... [ 12-Sep-01 14:41 ] ac220v@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] bye [kidman] gotta go [s0lm8] tom clancy also had a book bout a plane crashin into congress [dvnt] not really, they have found some evidence of whomight have been involved, found some cars, searched a house around here [ak1ra] yeah one of my friends told me about that [ 12-Sep-01 14:41 ] mvv@sdf has left ny. [starbuck] ok [jif] its 5 arabic men [phm] i read they are 99% sure its bin laden [jif] and 44 florida men [jif] 4* [dvnt] one of the cars had a picture of bin laden in it [dvnt] the other had flight manuals [ak1ra] ok, it's looking more obvious that bin ladin is to blame after all... [jif] yup [s0lm8] afghanistan is refusing visums for westerners right now [jif] hes always indirectly or directly connected to any major terrorism [dvnt] visas? [s0lm8] says ennuf [ak1ra] all media had been kicked out [s0lm8] yes visums [starbuck] well I still dont want to accuse bin laden I highly suspect him though [paulmack] jif / you mean hesbola [jif] what [jif] I accuse him [ak1ra] hesbola is in lebanon [ 12-Sep-01 14:45 ] kidman has left ny. [dvnt] its like we said earlier though, even if it aint bin laden, (it probably is) he has it coming anyway.. [jif] we have everything on defcon 2 [ak1ra] I dont know what to think right now... [jif] we will attack once we are sure of who it was [dvnt] tru [starbuck] if bin laden did that he must have been helped by someone else also caus hi jacking four plane at the same time is almost impossible [ 12-Sep-01 14:45 ] xserv@sdf has joined ny. [s0lm8] it's most probably an arab oriented attack [xserv] hi there [dvnt] hey xserv [dvnt] brb [jif] s01: it is [ 12-Sep-01 14:46 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [jif] 5 arab suspects.. 4 florida men piloting the planes [ak1ra] yes it's definately from arabs [starbuck] I would tend to say 99% of chance its the arabs [starbuck] I leave a 1% just not to be too much surprise if its someone else ;) [ 12-Sep-01 14:47 ] paulmack@sdf has joined ny. [starbuck] anywa gotta go [xserv] hmm... [s0lm8] cu [starbuck] laterz [ 12-Sep-01 14:48 ] starbuck@sdf has left ny. [s0lm8] anyone from ny inhere now ? [ 12-Sep-01 14:49 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:49 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [xserv] hmm dont think so [dvnt] hey, check this out, [ak1ra] jif??? [xserv] they have their own problems [dvnt] you guys want to see this qote from nostradamus? [dvnt] quote [s0lm8] yes [ 12-Sep-01 14:50 ] jif has left ny. [dvnt] >This is a quote from one of his predictions: [ak1ra] and it is written a bvig plane will fly into a tall building [dvnt] >>"In the year of the new century and nine months, From the sky will [dvnt] >>come a [dvnt] >>great King of Terror... [dvnt] >>The sky will burn at forty-five degrees. [dvnt] >>Fire approaches the great new city..." [dvnt] >>2001 is the first year of the new century and this is the 9th [dvnt] >>month. New [dvnt] >>York is located at the 41st degree Latitude. He also said that [dvnt] >>this will [dvnt] >>be the third World War and it would be bigger than the last two [dvnt] >>wars. [s0lm8] fuck taht ? [s0lm8] is this for real ? [dvnt] hope he's wrong.. [paulmack] Precise reference please [ 12-Sep-01 14:51 ] freed@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] no one can predict the future.. i iz damn sure of that [dvnt] thats a tru quote though [dvnt] hey freed [s0lm8] what site ? [ak1ra] dvnt you arent making me feel a whole lot better ^_^ [freed] hey ther [dvnt] sorry bro.. [ak1ra] s'ok [dvnt] I didnt get it on a site, someone sent it to me. I'll forward it if you want it [ 12-Sep-01 14:52 ] paulmack@sdf has left ny. [s0lm8] i'll check his ng [ 12-Sep-01 14:52 ] bweiss@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey bweiss [ 12-Sep-01 14:53 ] colonelm@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] gee duhbya is speaking from the whitehouse [dvnt] hey colonel [dvnt] is he? [bweiss] QUIT [dvnt] use a : [ 12-Sep-01 14:53 ] vazquezn@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:53 ] bweiss@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] he seems to be asking conferance for loads of money to fight a war [ak1ra] congress sorry ^_^ [colonelm] heloo everyone [dvnt] damn.. [ak1ra] hiya col. [ 12-Sep-01 14:54 ] fillex@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:54 ] kurmant@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:55 ] gozilla@sdf has joined ny. [s0lm8] C10Q72 [s0lm8] > > The year 1999, seventh month, [ak1ra] he finally acknowledges that other countries are on his side ^_^ [dvnt] whats up [vazquezn] hello!!! colonelm [s0lm8] > > From the sky will come a great King of Terror: [s0lm8] > > To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols, [colonelm] hey im from the uk and really very upset with what happened [s0lm8] > > Before and after Mars to reign by good luck [ak1ra] i'm from UK as well [colonelm] nice [colonelm] where abouts [dvnt] s0l, isnt there another one? [ak1ra] Inverness in scotland [ 12-Sep-01 14:56 ] gregory@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 14:56 ] gregory@sdf has left ny. [s0lm8] that was predicted for 1999 [dvnt] ak1ra is our beer drinking goth/punk! :) [ 12-Sep-01 14:57 ] freed@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] hey someone is someone has misquoted old nozza he's got to die... [ak1ra] damn wrote someone twice... [ak1ra] Rammstein airbase ^_^ [dvnt] gonna have to check the source on that quote.. [dvnt] i'll be back. [ 12-Sep-01 14:58 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] kneecap the guy who sent that to you [ 12-Sep-01 14:58 ] ghirai@sdf has joined ny. [colonelm] hey im from aberdeen ak1ra [kurmant] QUIT [ 12-Sep-01 14:59 ] loge@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] cool [ghirai] hey...i have a question [ak1ra] whats that [ 12-Sep-01 14:59 ] grondhal@sdf has joined ny. [grondhal] OYo ! [ghirai] can i use a ftp prog to upload files here? [ak1ra] no, send it to yourself in an email [ak1ra] you only get FTP if you have ARPA privelages ($45 [ghirai] nice [ 12-Sep-01 15:00 ] vazquezn has left ny. [s0lm8] or use rz/sez [colonelm] seeya lads take care......... [ 12-Sep-01 15:00 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] bye co. [dvnt] later co [ghirai] or i can use that kermit shit [s0lm8] dvnt : just forwarded u that news [ 12-Sep-01 15:00 ] ddayout@sdf has joined ny. [colonelm] bye....... [dvnt] oh thanks man [grondhal] x [grondhal] ups [ddayout] quit [ak1ra] 15 britons are missing believed dead in the WTC [ddayout] q [grondhal] hey guys, do u know if it's allowed to run an irc bot ? [ghirai] nope [ak1ra] no IRC bots [ddayout] hey how am i going to quit from the chat room? [grondhal] and as arpa member ? [ak1ra] check the FAQ [dvnt] ddayout: use :quit [ddayout] thanx [dvnt] np [ 12-Sep-01 15:01 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:01 ] ddayout@sdf has left ny. [firecat] wowowowowowow [firecat] so hi everyone [ghirai] hey...do any of u use trojans??? [ak1ra] hello to you too ^_^ [ak1ra] naughty [firecat] trojans? u mean greek city? [ghirai] no [ghirai] progs [ghirai] i wnat an opinion [loge] It's a kind of virus. [dvnt] ghirai: that would be very baaad... :) [ghirai] not really [dvnt] what are you wondering? [firecat] u another subseven lamer? [ak1ra] trojans are 'orrible pieces of software, they dont take any brains to use and do more damage than their worth [ghirai] u see, i wrote one [firecat] i agree ak1ra [firecat] u wrote? uhm.... [firecat] on subseven code? [dvnt] ok, but he wrote one, he's got some skill [ghirai] see www.ghirai.com [ghirai] no [firecat] ok [ghirai] my own code [firecat] ok [firecat] we'll see... [ak1ra] wow thats cool that u wrote one [ak1ra] but be responsible with how u distribute it [dvnt] tru [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] fillex has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] gozilla has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] kurmant has left ny. [loge] /:quit [firecat] redirect? uhm.... [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] loge@sdf has left ny. [ghirai] yeah... [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] nimh@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:05 ] grondhal@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] hey nimh [ak1ra] cyberspy [ghirai] hosting costs... [nimh] hiya [firecat] crap.... [firecat] free internet [firecat] always!!! [ghirai] well, what do u think? [firecat] wait... [dvnt] I will have to take a look when I get home [ghirai] k [firecat] cyberspy? [ak1ra] arrrgh popups, i'm drowning glugglugglug [ak1ra] nice site [ghirai] hehe [ghirai] thanx [ghirai] hahaha [firecat] comfort ak1ra [firecat] ehheeheh [ghirai] nyrspy [ghirai] [ghirai] hosting costs... [ghirai] [nimh] hiya [ghirai] [firecat] crap.... [ghirai] [firecat] free internet [nimh] quit [firecat] that's trueeeeeeeeeee [nimh] oops [nimh] heh [ 12-Sep-01 15:08 ] nimh@sdf has left ny. [firecat] u use some odd lib [ghirai] [firecat] always!!!what do u mean? [ak1ra] wow ure forum has loads of posts [ghirai] sure... [firecat] remember me Subseven..... [ghirai] now i'm making a new version... [ 12-Sep-01 15:10 ] colonelm has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:10 ] hackit has left ny. [ghirai] a lot of work [firecat] www.shadowguild.too.it [firecat] give a look [ghirai] k [firecat] and if u are interested to join...... [ak1ra] i wonder what italians have to say about their domains being used like that, fuck.it LOL [ghirai] haha [firecat] hehehehehe [firecat] yeah we italians are sick....fuck it always the time ehehehe [ghirai] ur italian? [ 12-Sep-01 15:11 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] i'm italian but i live in dublin [dvnt] got disconnected. [ghirai] i'm from romania [ghirai] hehe [firecat] fuck.it! [firecat] ehehheehhehe [firecat] so u can speak italian right? [dvnt] hey s0l, I read the email you sen tme, [s0lm8] dvnt: that quote was a hoax [dvnt] yeah, thanks man [ghirai] well, romanian is alot like italian, but is quite different [ 12-Sep-01 15:13 ] norther@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] heheheheeh a lot in italy... [firecat] also in dublin trust me [ 12-Sep-01 15:13 ] loge@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] the guy just elaborated by a few years/months degrees ^_^ [dvnt] I told the person who sent it to me to research it on their own [firecat] like italian..... [firecat] ? [ 12-Sep-01 15:14 ] wtfpunk@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey wtf [wtfpunk] sup [wtfpunk] can soeone help me [dvnt] ? [ak1ra] whats up? [wtfpunk] @echo off [ghirai] ? [firecat] whats? [loge] Has Bush made a declaration today? [firecat] finger wtfpunk [ak1ra] yeah plenty [wtfpunk] everytime i type i see double [firecat] heheeheh [firecat] double personality? [wtfpunk] it just types the letter twice [ak1ra] have you had a bump on the head recently? [wtfpunk] and thats for just loggining in too [wtfpunk] it still works but i dont like it [dvnt] turn off local echo [ak1ra] yeah local echo means that u are seeing it twice [osmosis] you got local echo on? [firecat] uhm asomebody know a decent proxy server? my last one went down.... [wtfpunk] i dunno [dvnt] check terminal options [ak1ra] are u using MS telnet? [firecat] @echo off [wtfpunk] but its fine now [wtfpunk] yea im using ms telnet [wtfpunk] vt100 right> [dvnt] sounds like local echo.. [ghirai] that telnet really sucks [wtfpunk] @echo off [ak1ra] go to terminal preferences [ghirai] use putty or whatever [ak1ra] uncheck local echo [s0lm8] try SecureCRT it rocks [wtfpunk] thats another prgram right? [ak1ra] use SSH ^_^ [s0lm8] yep [s0lm8] or putty [wtfpunk] im at a university [dvnt] at home I use teraterm, but at work I have to use windoze.. [ghirai] i have terrateam too [wtfpunk] how do i get apage? [ak1ra] i can tbe arsed using linuz ... im always on windoze [firecat] fruck! [firecat] securewhat? [wtfpunk] how d i set up a wbebpage [ak1ra] type mkhomepg [ak1ra] then addlink [wtfpunk] i did that [wtfpunk] u type addlink? [ak1ra] now put html docs etc in your html directory [ghirai] u have to upload the filez using that shit kermit [dvnt] you will need to put your files in the html dir [wtfpunk] i cant pico an index.html? [ak1ra] or send em to ureself in email [ak1ra] yes u can pico it [wtfpunk] thats what i did [dvnt] tru, at the time I put mine up, I wasnt familiar with kermit, I emailed myself all the files.. [firecat] try spaceports.... [s0lm8] and do it chown og +x [ak1ra] try http://sdf.lonestar.org/~wtfpunk [ 12-Sep-01 15:20 ] loge@sdf has left ny. [ghirai] this terrateam thingie reallyhelps u upload with kermit [ak1ra] this is my first "real" web page so its gonna be kinda crappy right now it under heavy contruction but i hope to soon have something decent. [wtfpunk] wow it worked [ak1ra] ^_^ [firecat] ???? why my email? [s0lm8] nice site :)) [ghirai] u just select the file and it uploads it [wtfpunk] thanks [dvnt] yeah I like teraterm, its a nice client.. [firecat] ehm in which way use a mood command in chat? [wtfpunk] thanks a lot i didnt know that [dvnt] plus, you can add the ssh plugin [ 12-Sep-01 15:21 ] atwar@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:21 ] swentek@sdf has joined ny. [osmosis] i use winscp [firecat] winscrap??? [firecat] ehehehheheeh [firecat] hi os [dvnt] hey os [swentek] /? [wtfpunk] so what do yall think about whats happening in ny [osmosis] it worked well to me [ak1ra] dont get me started... [dvnt] whats up swen and atwar [ 12-Sep-01 15:22 ] swentek@sdf has left ny. [vault12] if you are not allowed to install telnet/ssh clients, try mindterm. It's a ssh client that runs in a java cable webbrowser. http://www.mindbright.se/mindterm [wtfpunk] if echo is off you shouldnt be able to see what you are typing right? [dvnt] right [ak1ra] type :echo [wtfpunk] i can still see it though [ak1ra] then u'llbe able to see it [ 12-Sep-01 15:22 ] edrdo@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] doesnt work :( [firecat] wowowowow [ghirai] yeah...it workd [wtfpunk] with echo on i see double letteres :( [dvnt] did you uncheck local echo? [firecat] u see what u write before.... [ak1ra] just uncheck local echo and leave it! [wtfpunk] what is local echo? [dvnt] its in terminal preferences [xserv] hey anyone know oher telnet server? [wtfpunk] i typed :echo [firecat] echo off [ak1ra] in MS telnet go to terminal>preferences [wtfpunk] ohhhh [wtfpunk] wow it works now [firecat] emote laugh [xserv] other telnet server? [wtfpunk] y would anyone want that? [wtfpunk] sometimes i dont understand these ppl [xserv] lol [ak1ra] some servers wont echo what u type [edrdo] quit [xserv] k [edrdo] k [ghirai] tell me, what can i do in this unix box? [ak1ra] like if you are connecting to an FTP demon or a SMTP/POP3 demon [ 12-Sep-01 15:24 ] brzguy@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] tru. like most sendmail [edrdo] Sorry how do I quit com? [wtfpunk] type :quit [dvnt] use :quit [edrdo] Thanks [ 12-Sep-01 15:25 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:25 ] edrdo@sdf has left ny. [firecat] akakakakaka:help [firecat] ???? [ 12-Sep-01 15:25 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] bash is a good shell right? [brzguy] yo [ak1ra] bash is what i use [dvnt] bash is good.. [ak1ra] it's not very '''l33t''' [wtfpunk] y do they start u off with kourne [ak1ra] but it's easy so i like it [xserv] quit [dvnt] tru, I changed from ksh to bash the other day [ak1ra] brb [ 12-Sep-01 15:26 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [phm] i think its just as powerful as ksh [ 12-Sep-01 15:26 ] brzguy@sdf has left ny. [firecat] foo? [wtfpunk] i wish i had a real modem so i can get on linux :( [xserv] use : quit [firecat] sorry i was just triyng... [xserv] k? [ 12-Sep-01 15:26 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [xserv] hehehe [xserv] lol [xserv] muhahaha [ak1ra] yup i'm on bash [wtfpunk] dam winmodems [wtfpunk] i have 3 modems and of course they are all winmodems [ak1ra] winmodems are evil, someone should fly aplane into the guy who invented them!!! [wtfpunk] then i have a very old motoroloa 14.4 but no cord :( [firecat] naaa akira..saddddddddddddddddd [wtfpunk] its just a good thing they are cheap [xserv] i have a 9699 modem [ak1ra] yeah [dvnt] DSL [xserv] 9600 sorry [dvnt] (at home) [ 12-Sep-01 15:28 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey smj [osmosis] try linmodems.org [wtfpunk] lin modems are expensive arent they [s0lm8] redhat 7.2 will support winmodems u'v heard [wtfpunk] i have mandrake 8.0 [ak1ra] nah linmodems are drivers for winmodems [osmosis] no try the site [osmosis] right! [ghirai] on every site i go there's a popup that sez to donate blood [wtfpunk] whats a good small linux distro i can put on an i486 with 4 mgs ram? [osmosis] debian [wtfpunk] can i use floppies? [osmosis] of course [wtfpunk] and it will work with 4 mgs ram? [wtfpunk] i dont want X i just want console [osmosis] it work to me [dvnt] it should [wtfpunk] ok [ 12-Sep-01 15:30 ] cosmo@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey cos [wtfpunk] because the lowset ive seen is 8 mgs [s0lm8] 4megs ? [cosmo] hi [firecat] wowowowowowowowowowowo [firecat] well come back at normal stuff.... [wtfpunk] yea [wtfpunk] i have 4 1 meg sticks [cosmo] ECHO [firecat] ECHO SUM ABAS? [dvnt] cosmo use : [ 12-Sep-01 15:31 ] pointy@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] I remember when my dad spent a fortune buying 1/2 a meg for our amiga 500 [osmosis] anybody knows a kthat run on i286 [s0lm8] those were the days :) [wtfpunk] 1/2 a meg? [cosmo] I see hehe.. I just forgot . I'm really very new to this... [firecat] bombcar.... [osmosis] ORthat [dvnt] I had one of those TI's that came with the cartridges.. [osmosis] that [osmosis] sory [pointy] i never knew about com [ 12-Sep-01 15:32 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:32 ] cosmo@sdf has left ny. [pointy] cool [ 12-Sep-01 15:32 ] nahual@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] cold? [ 12-Sep-01 15:32 ] vnikolop@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] s0lm8@sdf has left ny for home. [ghirai] cya all [dvnt] later [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] ghirai@sdf has left ny. [firecat] see ya ghiari [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] atwar@sdf has left ny. [nahual] f[3~:quit [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] edrdo@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] nahual@sdf has left ny. [osmosis] i must go, see you later [pointy] ? [dvnt] later os [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny. [pointy] q [ 12-Sep-01 15:33 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:34 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] ak1ra, whats going on? [ak1ra] I keep exiting to check stuff [ 12-Sep-01 15:35 ] pointy has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:35 ] vnikolop has left ny. [dvnt] ahh [wtfpunk] hmm im laging bad? [ 12-Sep-01 15:35 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:35 ] edrdo@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] y is everyone leaving? [ak1ra] my silly little page of nonsensse ^_^ [dvnt] ? [wtfpunk] lol [ak1ra] thats what wtfpunk has put as his title [ 12-Sep-01 15:36 ] ezfn@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] i just leaned that yesterday [ak1ra] /her ^_^ sorry [ 12-Sep-01 15:36 ] ezfn@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] im slowly leaning html [ak1ra] thats tidy code wtf :) [wtfpunk] and c++ [ 12-Sep-01 15:37 ] zyx0@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] hey im new [ak1ra] oh man! i just snapped a big chuk off my printer [ 12-Sep-01 15:37 ] ralvor@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] shit [dvnt] what? [wtfpunk] u broke it? [ 12-Sep-01 15:37 ] zyx0@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] i tripped over my printer and a bit snapped off it [wtfpunk] they sell printers for $30 at wal mart [dvnt] damn, you and rei are gonna be needing some repairs [ak1ra] thats not much use here in scoltand ... still it's not a big deal still works [ak1ra] looks to be purely cosmetic [ 12-Sep-01 15:38 ] protgod@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey protgod [protgod] Howdy [ 12-Sep-01 15:39 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] so my email would be wtfpunk@sdf.lonestar.org? [dvnt] yeah or wtfpunk@freeshell.org [dvnt] goes to the same thing [wtfpunk] can somone email me so i can test it [ 12-Sep-01 15:40 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] done [wtfpunk] how do u do other stuff while u are chatting? [ 12-Sep-01 15:41 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] #dunno, probably use another terminal to make a new connection [wtfpunk] isnt there a way to spilt the screen? [dvnt] yeah [protgod] Does anyone here have their A+? [wtfpunk] hmmm i keep a stupid error [ 12-Sep-01 15:42 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] learned it all, passed all transcenders easily, never tested though [wtfpunk] im gonna take the ccna sometime soon [protgod] Ditto here, but I'd like to know how much it costs to take the test... [dvnt] I have the troytech manuals on ccna [dvnt] on pdf, I can hook you up if you wnat them [ak1ra] whats ccna?? [wtfpunk] cisco certified network associate [wtfpunk] damit brb [ 12-Sep-01 15:43 ] wtfpunk@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] oic like aMCSE [ 12-Sep-01 15:44 ] wtfpunk@sdf has joined ny. [protgod] Maybe I'll just photocopy someone el'sse's and write my name in instead... with a magic marker. [wtfpunk] u can make a lot of money with just a ccna [ak1ra] yeah so iuve heard [wtfpunk] i a,so want a network + [protgod] I'm going to get my ccnp soon... [wtfpunk] and im working on a bachlors in computer informatipn systems [wtfpunk] ccnp is way tooo hard for me [wtfpunk] im not even gonna attempt it [ 12-Sep-01 15:45 ] shorty@sdf has joined ny. [shorty] hello room [protgod] It is only a matter of memorization. [wtfpunk] sup shorty [wtfpunk] its a lot though [protgod] Hey shorty [ 12-Sep-01 15:45 ] shorty@sdf has left ny for lonot. [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] shorty@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] plus u got to get it renewed like every3 years isnt it [shorty] whats going on [protgod] Yep, but it is worth it. [wtfpunk] not much [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] ghirai@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [protgod] 6-figure-minimum baby. [wtfpunk] i dunno, im juts gonna be happy if i get a ccna [shorty] i'm working on my ccna [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] loge@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] epyon@sdf has left ny. [shorty] then i'm going to get my ccnp [ghirai] hello... [wtfpunk] so am i shorty [shorty] then my A + [ 12-Sep-01 15:46 ] econit@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] just no ccnp for me [protgod] Hey ghirai [shorty] thats kewl... where are you at in the class [wtfpunk] i want ccna, network+,a+ and a bachlors in cis [ghirai] so what's new? [shorty] oh [econit] hi all [wtfpunk] r u taking it through ciscos program? [shorty] i'm in class for my ccna right now [wtfpunk] cisco.netacad.net? [protgod] I'm currently abusing my priveledges at work... whoo-hoo! [shorty] well sorta [shorty] so am i awell at school [ 12-Sep-01 15:48 ] robi@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] i have a class too but its through the internet [protgod] You guys don't have a firewall at your school? Or a proxy? [robi] hy shorty [ghirai] what for? [protgod] Or did you tunnel... [shorty] kewl... where mainly based on the class on the net.... but hwe do a lot of hands on here [wtfpunk] yea we have tons of labs [robi] r u taking the cisco program? [shorty] yes [wtfpunk] i am [robi] wich semester? [wtfpunk] im one one still :( [shorty] one [protgod] I dunno, at my alma, we had a firewall to block us from using port 23 or higher than 1024. [robi] what's rthat? [wtfpunk] but im almost finished [ 12-Sep-01 15:50 ] ak1ra has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:50 ] econit has left ny. [robi] first sem? [shorty] tyhis is the pfirst time that they have offered the class [protgod] But I wanted to use napster, so I tunneled. [robi] ok [robi] any exams yet? [shorty] ya [wtfpunk] my university doesnt care what u do [shorty] the frist one.. i got a 96 on it [wtfpunk] they are vunerable to all sorts of stuff [protgod] Cool. [wtfpunk] the tests on cisco? [shorty] what is ? [robi] aha.. [shorty] really ? [shorty] tell motre [shorty] more [robi] that's the first chapter exam or the final exam? [protgod] Running WInNT server or Novell network? [wtfpunk] i took chapter exams and got a 96,90,100 [shorty] fisrt chapter [wtfpunk] here they just have win98 [ 12-Sep-01 15:51 ] loge@sdf has left ny. [robi] oki [robi] i finished the first semester [shorty] sweet [protgod] Probably running WinNT server... [wtfpunk] they let us use our notes here [robi] and now in september im taking the secon [shorty] WTF [shorty] on the test ?!? [shorty] must be nice [wtfpunk] on the chapter ones [robi] i got 4 95's and the rest 1000 [robi] 100 i mean [wtfpunk] only the chapter tests [robi] and the final exam was 100 too [ 12-Sep-01 15:52 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] i still dont understand wubnetting [wtfpunk] subnetting is hard [ 12-Sep-01 15:53 ] sallyh@sdf has joined ny. [shorty] is ti [robi] its cool.. [robi] hey [robi] how did u got here [robi] on this shell [wtfpunk] who/> [robi] im still tryibg to learn what this is all about [robi] and what good it is [shorty] thsthis shell rocks [robi] to have a shell [robi] i certainly dont wanna just chat around [wtfpunk] u never played with linux? [robi] no [robi] but i wanna install it [wtfpunk] u should get it [robi] and learn a bit [wtfpunk] i bought mandrake with a book for $20 [protgod] WTF, going to Texas A&M? [wtfpunk] yep [wtfpunk] how did u know that? [ 12-Sep-01 15:55 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 15:55 ] ralvor has left ny. [robi] okay buddies.. [ 12-Sep-01 15:55 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] wowowowowowowowow [robi] good luck on cisco and subnetting [firecat] thanks! [protgod] YOu said that you were on the university's computers, right? [firecat] clap clap [wtfpunk] yea [firecat] who is? [wtfpunk] but i never said the name did i? [dvnt] finger... [firecat] ehm what about "su" command? [firecat] hehehee [firecat] finger [protgod] Fingerd you, grabbed your IP and traced it's local. [wtfpunk] lol [wtfpunk] all that trouble [wtfpunk] just to see where i am at [protgod] I'm running a cable connection here, I wanted to abuse the service. [dvnt] pretty easy.. [dvnt] not much trouble [protgod] Nope. [wtfpunk] i couldnt have told u were i was at if u asked [wtfpunk] could [dvnt] yeah but not as fun by asking.. [shorty] i got a T3 right now [ 12-Sep-01 15:56 ] romano@sdf has joined ny. [protgod] I know, but I didn't ask. [firecat] ciao romano [shorty] gotta go [protgod] See ya [wtfpunk] well im eatin lunch with a lady so ill c yall later [ 12-Sep-01 15:57 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] later [protgod] K, hasta. [firecat] wtf ehm with a lady? well..invite us no? [ 12-Sep-01 15:57 ] shorty@sdf has left ny. [firecat] wowowowowowowwo [wtfpunk] ill brb with details [firecat] wowowowowow [protgod] I wish I had the money and resources to hook my computer up with Fiber optic line... [dvnt] oh that would be nice.. [ 12-Sep-01 15:59 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] brb [ 12-Sep-01 15:59 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [protgod] I could download the internet... the whole thing... in, like, an hour. [firecat] ahahahah [ 12-Sep-01 16:00 ] romano has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:00 ] wtfpunk has left ny. [firecat] SLOW DOWN THE PAY NET [ 12-Sep-01 16:00 ] praneshr@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] hi pra [protgod] It's like, what is on your computer? Oh, mine? I host the internet. [praneshr] still here [praneshr] i thinki saw u in the afternoonwhats ur true name firecat [firecat] no no just now! ehehehe [firecat] i was on the pub for a pint before... [praneshr] h [praneshr] i ee a different set of people rigt now here [praneshr] isnt that true [firecat] what? [ 12-Sep-01 16:02 ] protgod@sdf has left ny. [praneshr] wats ur true name [firecat] Jhon Doe..and your? [praneshr] pranes [praneshr] sorry pranesh [firecat] no my real name is Jhon [firecat] not Doe [firecat] Karia [praneshr] ok got that [praneshr] what Karia [firecat] surname [praneshr] ok [praneshr] what do u do in sdf.. just chat [firecat] what u abut coding? [praneshr] no [firecat] not not i'm just laerning unix stuff... [ 12-Sep-01 16:03 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] if u see my web site u understand... [praneshr] whats that [firecat] www.shadowguild.too.it [firecat] research... [praneshr] whats ur sie [ 12-Sep-01 16:04 ] pointy@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] secuirty i told... [pointy] howdy [firecat] ? [praneshr] shadowguild.too.it [dvnt] hey pointy [praneshr] ok i got that [praneshr] shall lokkat that [firecat] hi dv...again....lol [dvnt] I keep getting mail about all this.. [firecat] u are a remailer? [firecat] discoverede the secret behind the anonimail....DVNT [firecat] hehehehehe [praneshr] hey thats nice [dvnt] got a letter from someone I know in ny that was there about what happened to her [dvnt] am I a remailer? nope! [ 12-Sep-01 16:06 ] synner@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:06 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] ah ok sorry dvnt [synner] today is a day of celebration! [firecat] i hope all right... [firecat] why sinner? [pointy] why synner? [dvnt] ? [synner] cause 4 people kicked america's butt. [praneshr] why so happy abu that synner [pointy] killing innocent people... [dvnt] you must be a fool [firecat] 4 what? [pointy] that's reaaly cool synner [smj] He is in greece. [synner] pointy: yeah ,killing innocent people ,yugoslavia ,sudan ,etc [firecat] sorry but in this cas I dont understand english... [synner] whatever [praneshr] why are u so happy abou that synner [smj] Well, this is a very big country .. it didn't kick our butt. [sallyh] /t [ 12-Sep-01 16:08 ] sallyh@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:08 ] gozbil@sdf has joined ny. [smj] but you did incur the wraith of the US military. [smj] There is going to be hell to pay its for sure. [firecat] this is another point... [pointy] US will attack afghanistan & rub out Bin-Ladin [gozbil] what goes around comes around [firecat] innocent are innocent without nation or something else... [smj] Not only that, everyone on our enemies list is going to get it. [ 12-Sep-01 16:09 ] robi@sdf has joined ny. [smj] Synner did you hear the address by our president and officials at the pentagon? [robi] dump [dvnt] there is going to be a major beat down commencing [praneshr] did u guys hear about that nostradamus prediction [firecat] why not check all the connection, all the hubs and try to find ladin? [firecat] 5 million are nice prize... [firecat] yeah pra..i was wondering about [praneshr] really surprising man!!! [praneshr] shocked [smj] "we will make no distinction between our enemies and those who harbour them" [pointy] those people in the buildings sisn't hurt anyone... why do they have to pay for what our Gov't does? [robi] dump [smj] that means pakistan is going to be destroyed.. I'm sure that north India is happy about that. [gozbil] spewin they didnt get the white house [pointy] sisn't=didn't [pointy] pakistan? [dvnt] I posted the nostradamus a little earlier, but apparently it was a hoax, and we ended up finding the accurate one.. its different. [ghirai] i don't think that pakistan is going to be distroyed.... [smj] "We will make no distinction between our enemies and those who harbour them" [firecat] hi ghirai... [firecat] i'm just chelk your stuff... [smj] I think so. [ghirai] hello... [smj] Pakistan will come to aid afgahnistan .. .. watch it happen.. in the weeks ahead. [smj] Pakistan will fall and north India will rejouice. [pointy] bin-ladin would be arrested in pakistan [praneshr] what was the ture one dvnt [praneshr] what s the exact prediction [smj] afgahnistan will fall and the taliban will be 'erraticated' as Tony Blair has said .. Jihad will be over forever! [phm] http://forums.roadfly.com/bmw/e36-lounge/forum.php?postid=143486 [gozbil] nothing to do with bin ladin FRANCE DID THIS [praneshr] i dont understand pakistan [praneshr] why france [pointy] FRANCE??? LOL [smj] This is JIHAD. [ghirai] well not the pakista gov... [praneshr] where dies france come into picture [smj] Its every muslim's duty to kill americans. [pointy] those wily frogs [ghirai] hahaha... [smj] This is jihad (religious war carried out by muslims) [smj] Pakistan and afgahnistan will fall. [praneshr] why so much of a suport for those guys smj [smj] for Jihad? [smj] People who carry out jihad are so hateful themselves.. [dvnt] hey I just read that 3 guys were also arrested driving a van full of explosives on the way to try and blow up the george washington bridge [gozbil] Jihads fuck their own mums [ 12-Sep-01 16:14 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [praneshr] tru gozbil [firecat] ops sorry ghiari i send to you a lot of mess..hahahahaha [smj] Jihad is not a group or person .. its muslims that perform 'jihad' [smj] jihad means religious war carried out by muslims. [gozbil] allah fucks his mum also [ 12-Sep-01 16:15 ] robi has left ny. [gozbil] lol [smj] mostly. [ghirai] of course i read about this.... [praneshr] what [epyon] who is allh? [praneshr] what ghirai [gozbil] allah = muslim god [pointy] these idiots who hijacked the planes think they'll go to heaven; but if there is a hell, the suffering they've caused will put them in the lowest pit [smj] allah is the god in muslim religioun. [firecat] Allah is great..a [firecat] gheddafi her profet... [epyon] allah?is he a human? [smj] allah has a great ass. [gozbil] allah is gay [ghirai] hahahaha..... [ 12-Sep-01 16:16 ] transfix@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:16 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [firecat] is a old song in italy... [firecat] don't offend the gay goz!! hehehehe [gozbil] this tv is giving me the shits [ 12-Sep-01 16:16 ] pointy@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:16 ] darklady@sdf has joined ny. [gozbil] nothing to watch [firecat] is the medai food [firecat] media food sorry [ 12-Sep-01 16:17 ] praneshr@sdf has left ny. [darklady] hi smj [ 12-Sep-01 16:17 ] kidman@sdf has joined ny. [gozbil] fuck im in australia and every channel has the news on last 30 hours [kidman] hello [pointy] gozbil-- i'm glad I rented a couple videos last night [firecat] im in ireland and is the same... [pointy] otherwise i'd have been saturated [gozbil] i give 2 fucks what happened over there [darklady] that is sweet of you gozbil - htnanks [pointy] firecat- whereabouts in Ireland? [transfix] how can you not care? [gozbil] like they would give a shit if it happened here [firecat] ops....i return in a sec... [firecat] dublin [firecat] hi darklady [firecat] u point [pointy] I'll be moving to Galway City next yr [ghirai] in romania the newsystem works quite good [ 12-Sep-01 16:18 ] vision@sdf has joined ny. [pointy] I live in Oregon USA [darklady] hi fire - I just spoke with my family in Austria - they say all your airportsa are still shut down [dvnt] according to Associated Press, FBI has a 5 million dollar bounty on Bin Laden. Im gonna find him.. I'll be back.. [kidman] de shtii? [gozbil] why austria? [firecat] depends where u fly... [darklady] because that is where tehy live [pointy] Irelands airports are shut down, darklady? [firecat] so all europe is red alert.. [firecat] germany as well... [firecat] some fly... [firecat] not all [pointy] 5 million? [firecat] a friend of mine work for lufthansa [gozbil] youll see, france is to blame for this :) [pointy] $$$ [dvnt] tru, 5 mil.. [firecat] WELL LADS... monitoring all the hubs and we have the prize [ghirai] france????? [ 12-Sep-01 16:20 ] vision@sdf has left ny. [darklady] yes - they were supposed to visit in Sat via Lufthansa - don't think it will happen [ 12-Sep-01 16:20 ] afay@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] in rieland there's 40 man of la...they must talk with them! [pointy] The French have so much to answer for... like long breread loafs [firecat] no dark..but if u need i can ask directly... [pointy] er bread [firecat] where u lady? [darklady] los angeles [gozbil] how many dead have they counted? [firecat] i heard some rumor about LA [darklady] hmmm - I just heard on the radio that the FAA is continuing their ban [darklady] on no flying at all [darklady] controary to the earlier statement [darklady] nothing but rumors abound [pointy] that's so stupid... the assholes made their point, the attack is over [gozbil] i dont think its over [darklady] I agree with goz [gozbil] theyll wait till it settles a bit and hit again [transfix] it's probably just beginning :( [darklady] that is the primary weapon of terror - TERROR [kidman] gtg [pointy] mthat's awful [ghirai] it will take a long time to settle down... [firecat] media terror and brainwash...terrible... [darklady] the downside of instant info - more terror [pointy] the news says there are huge lines of people waiting to leave US & go into Canada [ghirai] yeah... [ 12-Sep-01 16:24 ] vision@sdf has joined ny. [darklady] smj - are you in here? - I have a Q re: freebsd [ 12-Sep-01 16:25 ] kidman has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:25 ] synner has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:25 ] vision has left ny. [firecat] today seem quite... [ 12-Sep-01 16:25 ] igor0694@sdf has joined ny. [darklady] anyone know bsd? [dvnt] every minute it gets safer to say it was bin laden, check this out.. [dvnt] WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 - Counterterrorism officials said that electronic [dvnt] eavesdropping intercepts obtained in the hours after the attacks on the [dvnt] World Trade Center and the Pentagon indicated that the terrorist [dvnt] operation [dvnt] was carried out by the militant Islamic organization headed by Osama [dvnt] bin [dvnt] Laden. [pointy] firecat, you know Rathmines? [firecat] yes point [firecat] lovely place... [firecat] near ballsbridge... [pointy] I stayed with a good friend there a ciouple years ago.. great craic [firecat] yeah I think so...good time in dub... [firecat] wowowowowwowo [pointy] he's a box player [pointy] buckets of stout [firecat] yeah ok later i drink a goddness for you! eheheh [pointy] hip hip hoorasy! [pointy] -s [firecat] ghirai? [ghirai] yeah... [pointy] dvnt, that news seems sketchy [vault12] darklady: yes, wot about it? [firecat] uhm doesn't work well... [firecat] can't connect... [pointy] one would think that the militant islamic organization would have the sense to use encryption [firecat] spend a lot of time [darklady] vault 12 - here is the question [vault12] shoot [darklady] when running the 'locate' command [firecat] encryption? uhm some stuff was 512 [ 12-Sep-01 16:30 ] gozbil has left ny. [vault12] yeh [firecat] really old... [darklady] I get this error [ghirai] what firecat? [pointy] 512-bit keys? [ 12-Sep-01 16:30 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [darklady] locat: /var/l9g/databases - too small [firecat] nothing ghirai..i'll send u a email later... [ 12-Sep-01 16:31 ] modzard@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] i'm on the way to try ur stuff... [darklady] log* [firecat] log* [firecat] ? [ghirai] k [pointy] dog* [firecat] jet log*? [firecat] bog* [ghirai] pls use ghirai@ghirai.com [ghirai] don't use that gmx thibgie any more... [modzard] hi [firecat] ahhh ok [pointy] nice to meet y'all [vault12] darklady:you must create the locate dtabase first : /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb [vault12] best put this in cron [modzard] why I can`t run ftp [ 12-Sep-01 16:32 ] pointy@sdf has left ny. [firecat] why i'm not rich? [firecat] heee heee [darklady] vault 12 - so I just go into cron and run the libexec from there? [firecat] what u use for ftpping? [modzard] get file [firecat] windoze, crapoze? [vault12] i mean, make a cronjob of that command to keep the database up to date [firecat] get file? [firecat] in remote? [modzard] yes [firecat] uhm...uhm... [firecat] open sharing? [darklady] ok got it - thanks [firecat] ;. [ 12-Sep-01 16:34 ] jdf@sdf has joined ny. [vault12] np [modzard] q [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] igor0694 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] darklady@sdf has left ny. [modzard] exit [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] vault12@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] daymon@sdf has joined ny. [ghirai] tell me; can i compile code and so in this box? [firecat] see in a sec lads! [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:35 ] coolkoh@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:36 ] transfix@sdf has left ny. [modzard] I can` exitttttttttttttttttttttttt [jdf] type :exit [modzard] exit [ghirai] type :exit [jdf] or is it :quit [modzard] quit [ 12-Sep-01 16:36 ] modzard@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:36 ] jdf@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:37 ] wtfpunk@sdf has joined ny. [ghirai] pls tell me if i can compile any code with this box? [wtfpunk] sup ppl [ 12-Sep-01 16:37 ] coolkoh@sdf has left ny. [wtfpunk] is anyone here talking? [ 12-Sep-01 16:38 ] chill@sdf has joined ny. [chill] hey [ghirai] yeah... [ 12-Sep-01 16:38 ] wtfpunk@sdf has left ny. [chill] ECHO [chill] oops [ 12-Sep-01 16:40 ] chill@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:41 ] daymon@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:41 ] mmilisic@sdf has joined ny. [mmilisic] hey [mmilisic] 1 [epyon] File Size = 26830K [epyon] Total bytes received = 19572.0K (72.95%) [epyon] Current speed = 16.97Kb/s, Average D/L speed = 10.68Kb/s [epyon] Time remaining 11 minutes 19 seconds [epyon] Resume Supported [epyon] Ctrl-R to exit and resume later [epyon] Ctrl-X to exit without resuming later [epyon] Ctrl-L to repaint the screen [epyon] RETR ok [epyon] File Size = 26830K [epyon] Total bytes received = 19572.0K (72.95%) [epyon] Current speed = 16.97Kb/s, Average D/L speed = 10.68Kb/s [epyon] Time remaining 11 minutes 19 seconds [epyon] Resume Supported [ghirai] ? [ 12-Sep-01 16:43 ] kocok@sdf has joined ny. [mmilisic] 2 [ 12-Sep-01 16:44 ] kocok@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:44 ] ghirai@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:44 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] here we go! [firecat] alone in the dark? [ 12-Sep-01 16:46 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:47 ] codejunk@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] err [ 12-Sep-01 16:48 ] unixoid@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] what do i do? [ 12-Sep-01 16:48 ] celica@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] here??? I just .... [ 12-Sep-01 16:48 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] uhm..so i try to understand this shell... [firecat] now i find the command: com, pine, mutt and few more... [codejunk] erm, is any1 here? [firecat] eheheheheh not bad for the first unix approch [ 12-Sep-01 16:49 ] epyon@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] hi code [codejunk] hello! [codejunk] I've just started trying out freeshell, and Im not farmiliar with this proggie [firecat] the same for me! [firecat] heehehehehe [firecat] proggye? ehm maybe system? [codejunk] im usedto nether.net but there always down...:( [ 12-Sep-01 16:50 ] goldenef@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] no I mean, server proggie [ 12-Sep-01 16:51 ] renevich@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] who /all [codejunk] q [codejunk] quit [ 12-Sep-01 16:52 ] codejunk@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:55 ] renevich has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:55 ] unixoid has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:55 ] epyon@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:57 ] backspin@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:57 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:58 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:58 ] djm62@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:59 ] wtfpunk@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 16:59 ] banque@sdf has joined ny. [wtfpunk] sup ppl [wtfpunk] can somone hjelp me [goldenef] War is war --> Bush [banque] i need [banque] to cennetct to my account via ftp... [ 12-Sep-01 17:00 ] backspin has left ny. [phm] 36$ = arp = ftp [phm] *arpa [banque] and the server rejects the ftp request... [ 12-Sep-01 17:00 ] wtfpunk@sdf has left ny. [banque] so, haw can i upload the files for the website? [phm] mail or zmodem [banque] htms shouel be stored in some folder... [phm] why dont you read the faq [phm] RTFM [ 12-Sep-01 17:02 ] goldenef@sdf has left ny. [banque] and hwowi know rtfm ;) [phm] what? [banque] i just wondered if i can use ftp for free... i mean w/o the fee [phm] read the fucking manuel [ 12-Sep-01 17:03 ] karthib@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:03 ] karthib@sdf has left ny. [phm] it explains [phm] i dont [phm] RTFM [phm] RTFM [ 12-Sep-01 17:07 ] codejunk@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:07 ] codejunk@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:08 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:09 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:09 ] codejunk@sdf has joined ny. [codejunk] come on come one [codejunk] hi ppl [ 12-Sep-01 17:10 ] banque has left ny. [codejunk] does any1 know how i connect to an irc with unix? [ 12-Sep-01 17:10 ] bios@sdf has joined ny. [bios] hi [bios] what can i do with this shell? [codejunk] does any1 know how i connect to an irc with this unix shee [codejunk] unix shell [ 12-Sep-01 17:11 ] codejunk@sdf has left ny. [bios] type "irc" but only a few can use that.. as i have understood [ 12-Sep-01 10:11 ] pagurus@sdf has joined ny. [bios] this shell stuff was cool, but i dunno what i can do with it :p [celsojr] como estao as coisas aih nos eua? [pagurus] celsojr: mal [celsojr] mal ou mto mal? [pagurus] mto mal-- terrorismo(?) [celsojr] tah, nisso eu to ligado, mas o pessoal ta mais calma por ae? [pagurus] desculpeme nao falo poruuges mui bem [celsojr] sorry, vou falar palavras mais faceis [ 12-Sep-01 17:15 ] kaervek@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:15 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] here we go! [celsojr] mas vc estah aih nos eua ou aqui no brazil [ 12-Sep-01 17:15 ] splits@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] muito obrigto [firecat] what the languages is? [pagurus] portugeese [celsojr] portuguese [celsojr] aqui no brazil tosdos estao mto preocupados com o q acontyeceu [xserv] german [kaervek] clesojr=gay ass [splits] lol [celsojr] kaervek=gayman [kaervek] celsocelso speak english dude! [celsojr] kaervek=shemale [kaervek] hahahahaah [celsojr] i dont speak english [kaervek] viado! [kaervek] toobad! [celsojr] homossexual [kaervek] hahaahah [celsojr] hahahaha [ 12-Sep-01 17:17 ] kaervek@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:17 ] splits@sdf has left ny. [xserv] anyone know gooof ftp serv? [pagurus] hey dudes, be kind to him./ her htey just said that they were very concerned in Brazil over the thing that have happened in the us. [celsojr] pagurus? [xserv] good [pagurus] yeh [xserv] terrorists win.. [celsojr] mas o povo aih estah mais calmao? [xserv] lol [pagurus] "Woe unto the world because of offenses! for it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh!" Matthew 18:7 and Luke 17:1 (KJV). [ 12-Sep-01 17:18 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] celsor: falas espanhol? [celsojr] mui mal [ 12-Sep-01 17:18 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] hablo apenas um poquito de spanhol [dvnt] hey [ak1ra] blada blada blada [celsojr] hi [ak1ra] hi [xserv] hi [celsojr] tu hablas espanhol? [dvnt] hmm, not too much really.. [xserv] dvnt where ARE YOU FROM? [celsojr] as pessoas estao mais calmas aih em NY? [pagurus] celsor: piensan que si. Han tratado de vaciar el aquifero en arizona en caso de contaminacion [dvnt] well, im from seattle, but I live in florida now.. [bios] qquit [ak1ra] i'm from scotland [bios] oops [bios] quit [bios] hmm [dvnt] i think I'll go back next year though. I miss it [xserv] Q: [bios] q: [bios] ? [pagurus] Celsor: no as pessoas mias em NY [celsojr] i'm brazil [xserv] LAMER [bios] how can i get out? :p [dvnt] type :quit [ 12-Sep-01 17:21 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] bios : type ":quit" [bios] aah [ 12-Sep-01 17:21 ] bios@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] ^_^ [celsojr] pagurus: where are u from? [firecat] lamer? [xserv] ":quit" [pagurus] Tucson, AZ:EAU [firecat] who's lamer? [phm] g.d [ 12-Sep-01 17:21 ] xserv@sdf has left ny. [firecat] heheheeh [firecat] i'm a lamer!!! [ 12-Sep-01 17:21 ] xserv@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] and i'm proud... [xserv] lol [firecat] ehehehehehe [xserv] lollllll [dvnt] so any news since I been gone? [celsojr] pagurus: todos aqui no brazil estao mui preocupados com os ataques terroristas aih nos USA, o brazil estah disposto a ajudar no que for precisop [ak1ra] dont think so dvnt [ 12-Sep-01 17:23 ] hagoth@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] yeah dvnt we have think to organizate a big jaffa cake... [xserv] hmm .. on every tv channel in germany are news [ak1ra] dvnt is your name short for deviant? [pagurus] e escuchado [xserv] ??? [firecat] for the celebral day [dvnt] yeah [ak1ra] rock on ^_^ [celsojr] nao entendi [firecat] so..who wanna a good jaffa cake's? [xserv] are this happin in germany?? [xserv] lol [celsojr] whATVSDFVGDF [celsojr] WHAT'S LOL? [ 12-Sep-01 17:24 ] hagoth@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] it means laugh out loud [ 12-Sep-01 17:24 ] daandeho@sdf has joined ny. [xserv] iam a bot [celsojr] soh [dvnt] ? [pagurus] celsor: Sp.:"He oido" [celsojr] tenho medo da terceira guerra mundial [daandeho] hiyaa [daandeho] h [ 12-Sep-01 17:24 ] esmith@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] yo tanbem [daandeho] any news? [ 12-Sep-01 17:25 ] esmith@sdf has left ny for lobby. [xserv] vvhh [ 12-Sep-01 17:25 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] LOL= Let OOz Laugh [ak1ra] hi there [celsojr] seria uma global killer [ak1ra] hi there [ 12-Sep-01 17:25 ] esmith@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] hehehe i'm connected twice [pagurus] celso: LOL : reir a alto [xserv] i have a big penis [xserv] lol [firecat] xserv..uhu and u use it? [xserv] sometimes maybe [ 12-Sep-01 17:26 ] crispydu@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] 'cause i have as well...but my mommy told me DON'T USE IT! [dvnt] too much info xserv.. [firecat] gelous.... [xserv] lol [ak1ra] urn [firecat] heee heee [xserv] arghhhh [ 12-Sep-01 17:26 ] esmith@sdf has left ny. [crispydu] hmmm [ 12-Sep-01 17:26 ] terrin@sdf has joined ny. [terrin] hi [daandeho] damn kids [daandeho] q [crispydu] q [ak1ra] hi terrin [xserv] kiddzz [daandeho] exit [dvnt] whats up [xserv] yeeeaaah [crispydu] how do u quit BTW? [dvnt] type :quit [crispydu] quit [daandeho] quit [ 12-Sep-01 17:27 ] splits@sdf has joined ny. [daandeho] rofl [celsojr] write :quit [splits] hello [crispydu] aaa [crispydu] ic [terrin] hi [ 12-Sep-01 17:27 ] daandeho@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:27 ] crispydu@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] hey splits [splits] hey terrin [splits] hey dvnt [terrin] how sick is that bin ladin guy [ak1ra] bye [firecat] scream :quit [ 12-Sep-01 17:27 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] oh but im still here [splits] whos bin ladin? [ 12-Sep-01 17:27 ] xserv@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] hes about to get reealll sick.. [terrin] bin ladin is the guy who prob bombed new york [dvnt] terminal.. [ak1ra] did [firecat] really heavy balls....to stay hide and be a master.... [splits] in that case then .......... bin ladoin is a fucker! [celsojr] pagarus: how old are u? [terrin] yes [splits] *bin ladin [ak1ra] has anyone seen the reverse angle shots of plane 2 [dvnt] nope [splits] no [terrin] yeah [terrin] shocking [terrin] taken from the bottom of the 2nd tower? [ak1ra] noooo from accross the river [celsojr] what? [dvnt] all bin ladens base belong to us [pagurus] Alkra: spit him out. You'll get indigestion! [firecat] lol [terrin] if i had a chainsaw i could use it slowling in bin ladin [ak1ra] pwah! [terrin] < [splits] terrin dude type :emote [celsojr] pagurus: onde aprendeu portuguese? [terrin] nucke the cunt [splits] and then what ever you want [terrin] *nuke [splits] yeah [ak1ra] hey guess what terrin is from inverness too ^_^ [terrin] am i? [splits] are you? [splits] is he? [dvnt] are you? [celsojr] who? [ak1ra] technically hes from edinbrgh [pagurus] um poco de mi "friend" Michelle [firecat] when u come here in dub for a pint? [splits] yes sure [celsojr] pagurus: su friend michele eh brasilena ou espanhola? [ak1ra] su amigo!!! [terrin] who are you akira? [ak1ra] even i know that and i dont do spanish [splits] does any one know where i can get a free shell account with free telnet access? [pagurus] celsojr: frances --fala 6 linguas [splits] i need one badly [ak1ra] be happy with what ye has [celsojr] ak1ra: i'm brazilian [ak1ra] not many 'll let ya [splits] i cannot [dvnt] hard to find [firecat] well lads time to shut the hell down.... [celsojr] pagurus: poliglota entao, certo? [splits] i know thats why im asking you guys [terrin] sdf.terrin.org hhahaha thas a joke [dvnt] you outta here firecat? [firecat] i did what i did and the police maybe 'll find me eheheeheh [splits] hahaha [firecat] now i go for one..definetly... [ak1ra] terrin it was? [firecat] I need pint of stout... [ 12-Sep-01 17:33 ] terrin@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] ^_^ [pagurus] celsojr: michelle? [firecat] wowowowowowowowo [celsojr] i'm a new in sdf, please help-me [firecat] we'll see tomorrow lads... [splits] what you want celso? [ak1ra] read the FAQ! [firecat] cels..i'm new as well...discover the world! [celsojr] pagurus: ela falava 6 linguas? [dvnt] ok later [firecat] is the best stuff... [terrin] here arawn kyle is going to boston in 3 weeks!! that where they took off from! [splits] sure thing celso [dvnt] what do you need help with? [firecat] burnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [pagurus] celsojr: si [ 12-Sep-01 17:34 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:34 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey os [splits] osmosis! [osmosis] hi [terrin] iam orf [celsojr] hi [ak1ra] why is kyle going to boston [terrin] cherio [splits] thats when a cell changes from a high concentration to a low concentration! [dvnt] youre orf? [celsojr] pagurus: ela mora aih no EUA? [ak1ra] euwww i'm orf ! [ 12-Sep-01 17:35 ] terrin@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] wow the FBI have stormed a hotel in boston! [pagurus] celsojr: Si aih Tucson. [splits] fucking fbi! [dvnt] really? [pagurus] The FBI are just cops doing their job. [splits] ok guys chow! [dvnt] they estimated 30,000 dead from WTC [splits] oh sorry ciao [ 12-Sep-01 17:37 ] splits@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] wow 30000 though there would only be like 3000 [dvnt] yeah they said that about 40,000 work there everyday [celsojr] bye [ 12-Sep-01 17:38 ] ditoa@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] yeah but it was only like 8:50 when it hit or somth [ditoa] hi [pagurus] celsojr: bye [ditoa] whats the latest news everyone? [celsojr] se der voltarei depois [ 12-Sep-01 17:38 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] celsojr: de acordo [ 12-Sep-01 17:39 ] alois8@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] yesterday two flight attendants on one of those planes trid to keep the hijackers from getting into the cockpit, and they slit thier throats [ 12-Sep-01 17:39 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [ditoa] ouch!! [alois8] hehqC::HELP [ak1ra] yeah they were using their phones on planes tsk tsk [ditoa] personally i think you americans should blow teh fuck outta whoever done it [ 12-Sep-01 17:40 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] They're really cracking down on that. [ditoa] but that is just my opinion [ 12-Sep-01 17:40 ] marc7@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:40 ] rte@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] i agree that the people responsible should be bought to justice [ak1ra] but not an all out angry backlash at everyone who doesnt like america [ditoa] put them in a plane and fly it right smack bang into a building [pagurus] 1 porblum --who dunnit? [alois8] WHO [ 12-Sep-01 17:41 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:41 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] in a free world you have the right to dislike something dont you [ 12-Sep-01 17:41 ] alois8@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:42 ] smj@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 17:42 ] rte@sdf has left ny. [ditoa] yes but in a free would you DONT have the right to blow the fuck out of innocent peo [ditoa] people [ak1ra] but it wasnt the phole of the arab world that did that though [smj] Its the rules of jihad. [pagurus] Everyone has the right to dislike something. Expressing that dislike ....(?) [ditoa] i dont call killing thousands of people "expressing" your belief [ 12-Sep-01 17:43 ] binladen@sdf has joined ny. [phm] uhm [binladen] hahah! America will fall! feel allah's wraith! [ditoa] usama bin laden is to blame, he never admits to anything [ 12-Sep-01 17:43 ] binladen@sdf has left ny. [smj] whoa!? [ditoa] smj find out who that was [pagurus] binladen:"Woe unto the world because of offenses! for it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh!" Matthew 18:7 and Luke 17:1 (KJV). [ak1ra] by blowing the fuk outta whoever did it, [phm] dont we get money for catching him [smj] NATO is going to give the US a green light. [ak1ra] bin ladin has joined the building [ditoa] yeah 10 million dollars tax free [ 12-Sep-01 17:45 ] marc7 has left ny. [ditoa] that is what i have heard, aint sure if it is true [phm] are you going to change the world? [dvnt] i guess now we can finger bin laden.. (since it didnt work yesterday..) [ak1ra] hi BRENT [ak1ra] BRENT is bent [ditoa] if i had my way i would let bush nuke the mother fucker [pagurus] dvnt: didn't work? [ak1ra] ditoa grow up [dvnt] naw, until today he didnt have an account on sdf.. [ak1ra] dvnt [ak1ra] hes spelt it binladEn [pagurus] "been laden" with what? [ 12-Sep-01 17:46 ] thephinn@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey phinn! [thephinn] hye man [ditoa] ok i guess killing innocent people aint the answer [thephinn] hey even [pagurus] ditoa: the hell you say?! [ditoa] but u know this will start another world war if the us find out wh oit is [thephinn] so the US nuked Afganistan yet? [phm] so much is redundant [dvnt] not yet.. [ditoa] sadly no thephinn [thephinn] Sadly? What use is the murder of thousands more innocent lives? [ak1ra] the phinn is anti war too [ 12-Sep-01 17:48 ] gmjanes@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] no, i'm just anti murder [thephinn] which this will turn into if the US doesn't get a hold on itself [dvnt] tru. everyone shoudl be antiwar, but not anti kicking someones ass that did what they did.. [ditoa] well we all know bush will get power hungry [ditoa] it will start a war [ditoa] that bloke said so in the 1600 lol [pagurus] Thephinn has a point. If we don't try to do this diplomatically, we might end up with the anhiliation of most of the civlised world. [ak1ra] bush is crack hungry [thephinn] This was an act of a small band of fanatical terrorists, not a nation. I don't understand how the Americans can be contemplaing "war" [ditoa] bush is on a power trip i agry but i can see why he is like that [smj] the UKI don't think so.. bush is in disbelieve.I'm sure he is stressed because its a sitaution of damned if you do damned if you don't [phm] bush is dangerous [thephinn] Bush is surprisingly calm i thought [smj] tony blair is too. [dvnt] tru smj [ditoa] tony blair is being a dick to be honest [ak1ra] Tony Blair should just go to sleep for a while [smj] Tony Blair and russia are standing sholder to sholder with us. [phm] smj: are you going to change the world? [ditoa] he got us in volved way to early [thephinn] Blair was the most anrgy leader I've seen so far [smj] me? [phm] yeah you [smj] its not my goal man. [ditoa] blair is pissed [thephinn] I reckon Bush is just gonna explode soon [smj] humanity can't change. [smj] over night. [smj] it takes thousands of years of evolution. [ditoa] then again i bet tony blair looks in teh mirror every morning praying he can be world leader [phm] i think it can change [ak1ra] and a lack of religious superstitions and prejudices [smj] thanks for being so optimistic. [ak1ra] IMO [ditoa] tony blair is gonna jump the gun and push bush into doing something extreme [smj] excellent. [thephinn] I doubt that [phm] well i have nothing to do if im not optimistic [ditoa] they are bum chums now [pagurus] Brittan & Russia -- shoulder to shoulder. (Did someone leave the refrigerator unplugged? -snif- -snif-) [smj] Its good. [ak1ra] TB wouldnt encourage bush, bush hardly acknowleges there is actually a world beyond the U.S borders [ditoa] yeah when did russia get involved, i thought they didnt like us? [thephinn] Except to blow it up [smj] I'll get the quote. [thephinn] They do now [ak1ra] you should see him in press conferances, he needs aides to actually tell him where he is... [ditoa] nah i reckon bush will except help from everyone on his side [phm] he dosnt need any help [ditoa] if clinton was still in charge everything would be much calmer [ 12-Sep-01 17:54 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey the way I see it, (and I dont advocate war) but we got attacked here. if it starts a war to fight back, then thats just what happens. it would be unfortunate, yes, but how much more unfortunate than what they did? [ak1ra] he needs psychiatric help [thephinn] All the dicators of the world are supporting America, not wanting to be the recieving end of any attacks [djm62] all [smj] GUYS the UN is pulling out of afgahinstan!! [smj] new news! [smj] http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/09/12/afghan.denial/ [djm62] new news? [ditoa] that is old [phm] god [ditoa] was on radio 1 6 hours ago [pagurus] Kewl. [ditoa] check radio one out [smj] 1:41 EDT for this post though. [ak1ra] radio 1? [djm62] smj- here out of [ 12-Sep-01 17:55 ] wantii@sdf has joined ny. [ditoa] fbi have stormed a hotel also [ak1ra] they dont do news just dodgy pop music [ak1ra] ^_^ [ditoa] radio one is the main radio station here in the UK [dvnt] tryea hin boston where the planes took off rom [ak1ra] well duh i live in the UK [ditoa] lol oh ok [djm62] smj- hear from your ex? [ditoa] sorry didnt know that [ak1ra] actually radio 2 has a larger audience [ditoa] i personally think this is gonna get huge [thephinn] The BBC lets to remind us of that [ditoa] and i doubt any good will come of it [thephinn] likes even [thephinn] this is gonna get v. huge [smj] she contacted me 30 minutes ago .. she is okay .. but some of her friends are missing. [djm62] they've declared an intent to bomb innocents [smj] I'll be back. [ditoa] but i dont think that the USA should do nothing [ditoa] and the only thing to do is fight back which will result in war [ditoa] so i am with america for fighting back [smj] me too. [djm62] There is a third way [smj] this is hiddeous. [ak1ra] even the red army couldnt invade afghanistan [ditoa] third way? [djm62] bush signs the order that america can assasinate [phm] they dont know where he is [dvnt] that wont work, bin laden will be replaced very quickly [ak1ra] but thats cos the U.S dumbly suported the taliban [ditoa] the UN are in discussion about tretee number 5 or something [djm62] they can send people for the terrorists without nuking hapless muslims [thephinn] Cept the US Special Forfcces suck [ditoa] the number 5 thing means that if an attack is made on any nato country then all the countries in nato will attack back [dvnt] tru [ditoa] it will not just be an attack on that country but all countries in nato [thephinn] It isn't a country we would be fighting though [djm62] it ids [djm62] mr bush has guearanteed that [djm62] "anyone who harbors terrorists in any way" [thephinn] Then hes a fool [djm62] ie; anyone in between them and bullets [ 12-Sep-01 18:00 ] gmjanes has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:00 ] wantii has left ny. [ditoa] yes i know the whole contry dont want to destroy america [dvnt] phinn, it is well known that bin laden is in afghanistan, and they have refused all efforts to help anyone get him. they are harboring him. it would be like letting saddam stay in your house and hide.. [thephinn] He means the host country, so they is someone nice and definable to attack [djm62] if they were hiding in britain [ditoa] just like the ira stuff [djm62] we'd get bombed [ditoa] hahaha yeah i guess :P [ak1ra] true [thephinn] For starters, they don't even know it was Bin Laden [ak1ra] damn bush [djm62] don't think it was [dvnt] they will [thephinn] and if it was, they can't just go in and invade Afganistan [ak1ra] GORE WHY COULDNT URE VOTERS PUNCH A CARD RIGHT [ditoa] who else has the money and contacts to do it other than him? [ditoa] BIll Gates ahahaha [djm62] they've said [djm62] they will invade, basically [thephinn] that would be a complete disaster [djm62] only for PR and afghanistan [phm] "invade"" ?? [djm62] the US could swamp them [dvnt] they have a LOT that says it was him, photos of him in the cars they found, communications interceptions, and people in his organization alluding to that they did it.. [thephinn] Yeah, like in Vietnam :-P [djm62] sorry bush said "conquer" [phm] bit different! [djm62] ? [ 12-Sep-01 18:03 ] atob@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] They should! Extridite him: pull him out; drill his teeth; hook them up to car abtteries! [djm62] they intend to conquer afghanistan [ 12-Sep-01 18:03 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] They can't do that [thephinn] Unless they declare war on Afgnistan [dvnt] thats what im saying, they cant extradite him, afghanistan wont cooperate.. [pagurus] pity, that! [thephinn] Then tough shit [ak1ra] why doesnt bush bite the bu;let [djm62] requires skill [ak1ra] and declare war if hes so sure [atob] he [pagurus] doesn't want WWIII [ 12-Sep-01 18:04 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] who the hell will support afghanistan [djm62] the man can barely read [ditoa] LOL [dvnt] well, we will have to get his ass then.. [djm62] europe could get bolshy [thephinn] The free world i would hope [ 12-Sep-01 18:05 ] mmilisic has left ny. [ak1ra] you could tell on that address to the nation his mind was on pie and beer [thephinn] lol [ditoa] i hope blair lets u press the red button this time [ditoa] and i hope america act this tim [thephinn] Fuck that for a laugh [ak1ra] dont be rediculous [dvnt] who's mind isnt on pie and beer? [thephinn] Bill Gates [ak1ra] not mine dammit [ditoa] i want some apple pie [ak1ra] beef pie [ditoa] brb [atob] cow pie [ditoa] getting some pie hehe [dvnt] I want cheesypoofs.. [thephinn] ROFL [ditoa] ok got my pie :) [ 12-Sep-01 18:06 ] indy@sdf has joined ny. [ditoa] the world is good again ahaha [thephinn] Thats u happy then [ 12-Sep-01 18:06 ] kaervek@sdf has joined ny. [indy] I just got some american pie >: ) [thephinn] Just don't try and shag it [ 12-Sep-01 18:07 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [phm] argh. are real time pie updates nessercery! [ak1ra] it makes a mess of one's genitalia [thephinn] lol [ditoa] LOL [kaervek] lol [atob] / [ditoa] i know [phm] no wonder the world has problems [indy] not if you use the pies with the premade holes ; D [ak1ra] www.pnn.com pie news network [ditoa] i read the story about the bloke wh ofucked a hot apple pie, burnt his japs eye [ak1ra] LOL [dvnt] you have to let it cool off first.. [thephinn] Where there is pie, there is a way [ak1ra] what an idiot [phm] its most intelligent life form is stupid [djm62] ants? [dvnt] lets send a pie to bin laden [atob] Dolphins? [ak1ra] virii [thephinn] with a bomb innit [indy] get his sperm on it and run dna tests [thephinn] hehe [ak1ra] they're pretty smart [phm] no mice [ak1ra] no HHGTG references plz [indy] let's send him a piss bomb, eeveryone in america can piss in it [indy] and then we'll fly it over to afghanistan and drop it on his house [ak1ra] christ that would be one hell of a bomb [indy] >: ) [djm62] ak1ra: why not? [ak1ra] they're boring, no offence but people just make them to sound smart IMO [phm] 101010 [atob] Just send an operative wearing a Laden mask onto a flight, and if so e people who look not unlike islamic extremists wink at him, you'll know there's going to be trouble. [indy] that wont't work [indy] wont't == won't [indy] heh [phm] yes it means unlike bush we can read [ak1ra] good point [ak1ra] but then again i saw the TV show [kaervek] hahahahahahha [phm] its great [djm62] giullani and clinton did well [indy] bu8sh is gay [phm] all my philosophy is based on hhgttg [pagurus] Fuck Geneva! We should have an eye for an eye policy towards perp. on this scale. [djm62] wtf is bush doing in the big house? [indy] bu8sh == bush [ak1ra] 42??? [phm] 101010 [indy] Gearge W. Puss and Lil' Dick Cheney [thephinn] I don't think they have buildings big enough in Afganistan [indy] Gearge == George [ak1ra] my fave is bu**sh** [ak1ra] lol [atob] But hey, there's [lenty of innocent civillians. Why not just use napalm? [pagurus] Joje (Navajo = "Bush") [ak1ra] agent orange [ak1ra] pagurus re u navajo??? [pagurus] no. [pagurus] Friends are, tho. [ak1ra] cool [ditoa] fuck!! [ditoa] i just been asked if i wanna join the army lol [djm62] lmfao [ditoa] serious, we just got a phone call as i expressed interested at college 4 months ago [ak1ra] who from? [ditoa] some lady [pagurus] "bush" , BTW inquotes cause it was a euphemism. Thought it was funny " Joje 'bush'" [ak1ra] wow, [thephinn] Bin Laden, whou think? [ditoa] shit, that is scary [djm62] pagurus: cool [ditoa] brb i am just going to ask my mate something [indy] Bin Laden has teamed up with George W. Biatch [kaervek] where r u guys from? [ 12-Sep-01 18:15 ] kalensr@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] FL [indy] To steer the country into the ground leagally [indy] from his stupidity [indy] ": (" [ak1ra] ??????? [atob] Kenyta, origianlly. But then there was a few million years of evolution and movement across the globe. [pagurus] AZ [ 12-Sep-01 18:15 ] kalensr@sdf has left ny. [atob] Kenya. Anmd orignally, but. [thephinn] Oxford, England [ak1ra] Invernes Scotland [ditoa] euphemismeuphemismmy mate got a call about 30 mins ago [djm62] scotland [kaervek] cool, im fromm brazil but i used to live in Tx [ditoa] this is weird! why they calling everyone [thephinn] Cos u going 2 war [ditoa] wow! u think :P [thephinn] u asked [djm62] nah [ 12-Sep-01 18:18 ] aythos@sdf has joined ny. [indy] clear [ditoa] lol [indy] oops [ditoa] true true [indy] bye bye [indy] lol [indy] q [ 12-Sep-01 18:18 ] indy@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] kaervek: Do you speak Portugeese? I was trying to talk to someone earlier, but my Portugeese sux. [ak1ra] ditoa could just be a regular recruiting drive... [kaervek] pagurus: yeah that guy was here in class with me .. [djm62] arafat really got taken by surprise [kaervek] celso right [ak1ra] the navy sometimes sent me stuff when I asked about becoming an officer [dvnt] they used to send me stuff ALL the time... [ 12-Sep-01 18:20 ] atob has left ny. [kaervek] pagurus: how do u know portuguese man? [pagurus] kaeevek: yep. [pagurus] kaervek: Michelle, my friend from France speaks six or seven languages, incl. [ak1ra] clever girl [kaervek] sorry what did u say i couldn rea it my shell got messed up.. [dvnt] I speak english canadian and australian [pagurus] My French friend, Michelle, speaks it. [kaervek] pa: cool! [pagurus] dvnt: what a coincidence! [dvnt] you too?! [pagurus] yep. [kaervek] me what? [pagurus] speak english canadian and australian [kaervek] hahahaha [ak1ra] i speak a little french [thephinn] what about New Zealandise? [kaervek] i speak portuguese english spanish, n a lill french [ak1ra] got an A at higher but still dont know that much... [thephinn] I speak English, German and French [kaervek] cool! [ak1ra] I know a tiny amount of japanese [dvnt] i did take german and japanese for 2 years each in school [pagurus] How do you speak a 'little French"? Helium? Hehe. [dvnt] dont remember much, and kept getting kicked out of class.. [kaervek] hahahhahaah [ak1ra] LOL dvnt [ak1ra] is that how u got ure name ^_^ [kaervek] my family is from the french part of belgium n i get to go there oncein a while so i learned some of it.. [dvnt] could be! [ak1ra] coo; [ 12-Sep-01 18:25 ] tsca@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:25 ] djm62@sdf has left ny for lobbyt. [pagurus] Tres bien. [thephinn] C'est tres bon [kaervek] yeah [ 12-Sep-01 18:26 ] tsca@sdf has left ny. [kaervek] oui [thephinn] lol [kaervek] hey pp cool to talk to u but i gotta jet.. imin class.. se yall later [dvnt] oh shit. (pardon my french) [pagurus] b-bye. [kaervek] bye [dvnt] later [kaervek] quit [thephinn] laters [ak1ra] bye [ 12-Sep-01 18:27 ] kaervek@sdf has left ny. [thephinn] its colon then quiet [osmosis] b [thephinn] quit even [dvnt] haha [ak1ra] quiet :p [ak1ra] my colon hasnt been too quiet after that curry i ate [pagurus] colon then quiet? sounds like too much ex-lax. [thephinn] Gotta remeber to keep taking those pills... [ 12-Sep-01 18:28 ] cjcs@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:28 ] cjcs@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:28 ] joed@sdf has joined ny. [thephinn] Havn't shitted 4 5 weeks ;-) [dvnt] make some exlax cupdakes [dvnt] cupckaes [thephinn] Cupcakes? [ 12-Sep-01 18:29 ] syd@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] camn.. still didnt get it right.. [dvnt] damn i mean. [pagurus] Hey! We can send them to "been laden". Might clear that condition right up! [thephinn] LOL! [dvnt] cant type.. [ 12-Sep-01 18:29 ] brayan45@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] lol [ 12-Sep-01 18:29 ] syd@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] according to BBC the death toll of britons is in the 100s [thephinn] boo [brayan45] really [dvnt] damn... :( [pagurus] shit! [dvnt] french [ 12-Sep-01 18:31 ] shayhugi@sdf has joined ny. [shayhugi] hey dudes [ak1ra] so now i reluctantly have to back any aggressive action against the bombers [shayhugi] ewhat's' up?! [thephinn] no u don't [dvnt] hey shay [ 12-Sep-01 18:31 ] mabell@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey ma [mabell] hi guys [brayan45] [[Ahi [mabell] what do u make of all this [mabell] wwIII? [dvnt] could be.. [thephinn] at the rate we are going... [mabell] looking forward to it? [dvnt] not really.. [thephinn] not particualry [brayan45] anfd [ak1ra] i seriously doubt that [thephinn] had a picnic planned [brayan45] why [ak1ra] something on the scale of the gulf war, perhaps a bit bigger [mabell] i hope not [thephinn] fallout gonna ruin it [brayan45] it may be more than that [mabell] the thing is [mabell] many countries are on US's side [mabell] wouldn't make for much of a ww [dvnt] tru mabell [thephinn] Time for "The Doors" [mabell] where do u guys live [dvnt] FL [thephinn] "This is the nd my friend..." [thephinn] Oxford, England [mabell] canada here :) [pagurus] AZ [mabell] cool [ak1ra] come on baby light my fire ^_^ [dvnt] what part of canada? [ak1ra] scoltand! [ 12-Sep-01 18:34 ] trident@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] Toronto [dvnt] hey tri [ak1ra] sotland even! [ak1ra] SHIT [thephinn] lol [dvnt] more french from ak1ra.. [thephinn] he means Invereness, Scotland [trident] hey [thephinn] Hey Trident [ 12-Sep-01 18:35 ] shayhugi has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:35 ] joed@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] un grand tas de merde! [mabell] say hello [pagurus] Yeah, yeah aklra "If it isn't Scottish it's crap!" (So I married an ax Murderer) [mabell] hm [ak1ra] ????? [pagurus] The movie So I... [mabell] when i turn on "local echo" it doesn't work [pagurus] mabell ":echo" [mabell] testing [mabell] sweeeeeet [thephinn] lol [mabell] ty [mabell] what sys u guys running [ 12-Sep-01 18:36 ] vt@sdf has joined ny. [trident] RH7 [ak1ra] windows 98m second edition [dvnt] good ol local echo.. [mabell] any *bsd's ?? [vt] hi [thephinn] Good ol' Win98 :-( [osmosis] w2000 [dvnt] Ax Murderer was sweet [vt] mabell : yes [ak1ra] i cant be arsed installing anything else [osmosis] and gnuOQdebian [mabell] vt which one [dvnt] NT.. [vt] i've one netbsd and one FreeBSD [mabell] cool [mabell] which do u prefer [ 12-Sep-01 18:37 ] djm62@sdf has joined ny. [vt] for my old systems, nebsd is better [mabell] ic [dvnt] hey dj [vt] sdf is a netbsd ;) [pagurus] Couldn't some open source people come up with a clone -- "Schmindoze" or something -- to keep the playing groung level. Not to mention to be bug-free? [ak1ra] yeah [mabell] i threw out my 386, no one would buy it.... [vt] i've one sparcstation 2 [vt] one microvax [ak1ra] I smashed my 306 ^_^ [vt] very old systems [mabell] hehehe [vt] more than 386 [trident] i've got a microwave [vt] i'm lagged [ak1ra] yeah a microwave has more processing power than a 286 [vt] quit [ 12-Sep-01 18:39 ] vt@sdf has left ny. [pagurus] lol [ 12-Sep-01 18:40 ] vt@sdf has joined ny. [trident] yepo[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~ [mabell] my first comp didnt have a hdd [dvnt] 386 is a large paper weight.. [osmosis] ak1ra: donīt mess with i286 [vt] I spoke about McroVax [trident] oops [vt] from Digitcal [mabell] i read a huge book to fin dthat out :( [thephinn] 386 r l33t :-) [ 12-Sep-01 18:40 ] nightgod@sdf has joined ny. [vt] VAXstation [vt] 1987 systems [ 12-Sep-01 18:40 ] trident@sdf has left ny. [vt] with ethernet ;) [vt] and running VMS [ak1ra] http://www.nato.int/docu/pr/2001/p01-121e.htm [ 12-Sep-01 18:41 ] trident@sdf has joined ny. [pagurus] aklra: auto weight defrost microwave? or the knob dial turning kind? [ak1ra] hell i dunno ^_^ [dvnt] ak1ra, what is that URl? [ak1ra] a quote form george robinson [trident] has to be awd [vt] i'm going to est [vt] eat ++ [vt] sigfood ;) [dvnt] later! [mabell] lates [thephinn] cya [trident] shit...theres a f***ing huge spider on my computer [vt] how time is it ? [ak1ra] eat++ a new object based programming lang.? [vt] what time is it ;) [osmosis] its time to get ill [mabell] kill it! cut it's throat, spill its blood!! [vt] i'm in France [dvnt] eat++.. [ak1ra] thatll bring rain :) [thephinn] I'm off, bbl guys [ak1ra] bye [trident] i'll be in France if that thing doesnt go away! [dvnt] later man [mabell] - :) [pagurus] vt: sorry. ;^> [dvnt] brb.. [ 12-Sep-01 18:44 ] thephinn@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:44 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:44 ] vt@sdf has left ny. [ak1ra] 8-) [ 12-Sep-01 18:45 ] nightgod has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:45 ] ak1ra@sdf has left ny. [trident] its bigger than my cat [osmosis] pass [mabell] who [trident] the spider [ 12-Sep-01 18:46 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] i meant to type the command "who" [trident] i may try and get the cat to eat it [pagurus] mabell ":who" [ 12-Sep-01 18:47 ] osmosis@sdf has left ny for dc. [dvnt] the cat will eat it [mabell] yup [pagurus] i''nt that absurd! she swallowed a bird! She swallowed the bird to catch the ... [dvnt] give it to me, I'll feed it to my scorpion.. [ 12-Sep-01 18:48 ] kassper@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] u have a scorpion..? [dvnt] yeah, I caught in my backyard [kassper] yo smj [mabell] i saw a story on tv, a family that owned a pet snake... [dvnt] put it in an aquarium [mabell] pregnant mother woke up with the snake squeezing her stomach [dvnt] the snake ate them? [mabell] nope [dvnt] oh.. [mabell] father choped off its head : ):) [dvnt] thats what it gets. they should name that snake bin laden [ 12-Sep-01 18:49 ] afay@sdf has left ny. [mabell] moral of the story: dont own cool pets [dvnt] tru.. [ 12-Sep-01 18:50 ] brayan45 has left ny. [pagurus] gtg, bbl. [dvnt] I have to feed it crickets. cool to watch it eat.. [mabell] lates [dvnt] later [ 12-Sep-01 18:51 ] morganth@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] hehe [ 12-Sep-01 11:51 ] pagurus@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] hey morgan [mabell] so how old r u guys? [mabell] 17 here [dvnt] 26 [morganth] 27 [dvnt] and a half [mabell] - :( [mabell] dam [mabell] own full priv's ? [dvnt] like arpa you mean? [trident] [[B7un9[[C[2~ [trident] [3~[2~ [mabell] um [dvnt] nope not yet.. [mabell] u have to pay, and they'll give u more access [mabell] ic [dvnt] yeah, 36 bux [smj] we're a non profit organisation.. [smj] you donate. [mabell] u like to play with words :) [dvnt] no, I think its a good deal [smj] its $36 .. one time yin your life.. do you know the costs associated with running these machines? [smj] geez. [dvnt] tru [mabell] smj, i was joking? [smj] Okay.. see ya [dvnt] i'll be sending it in as soon as I get a chance.. [ 12-Sep-01 18:54 ] smj@sdf has left ny. [mabell] didnt know that it was a one time deal, tho [ 12-Sep-01 18:55 ] morganth@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] i was hesitant for a while, I had a shell with hobbiton and they are gone now.. [mabell] ello morganth [ 12-Sep-01 18:55 ] kassper@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:55 ] armag3do@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 18:55 ] morganth@sdf has left ny. [mabell] yall chat on irc? [armag3do] can some1 help me plz ? [mabell] im new here armag [dvnt] mabell: not really, only came in here at all because of yesterday.. usually dont chat. maybe I will now, you guys are cool.. [mabell] - :) [mabell] i cant imagine not chatting (on irc) [mabell] how else can i reach so many people so easily [dvnt] tru [ 12-Sep-01 18:58 ] oggo@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] know of any good *bsd sites? [dvnt] nothing other than the usual ones.. [mabell] ok, the usual ones will do [dvnt] well, you know, like freebsd.org, etc... [trident] [[D[17~[[E2:review 100 [mabell] etc == ? [mabell] bsdvault [dvnt] I dont have any of them bookmarked, I usually just search bsd in google or something.. [trident] [A [mabell] slashdot [mabell] but what else [mabell] oh i c [dvnt] slashdot is good [ 12-Sep-01 19:00 ] kuip50@sdf has joined ny. [kuip50] mail [mabell] hey, i was wondering [kuip50] qhelpcxzzcx [dvnt] I like redhat..comeven though it s linux, not bsd.. [mabell] why do most apache's out there 1.3.x [dvnt] whoops.. [kuip50] reerreamamamnnsnascncancadsda [kuip50] exit [dvnt] kuip50: its :quit [kuip50] thnxz [dvnt] np [kuip50] quit [ 12-Sep-01 19:02 ] trident@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] with the colon [dvnt] mabell, what were you saying about apache? [mabell] most of the apache's i see are 1.3.x [mabell] although 2.x is out [mabell] y is that [dvnt] probably just laziness.. [ 12-Sep-01 19:05 ] kuip50 has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:05 ] norther has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:05 ] oggo has left ny. [phm] 1.3.x is stable [mabell] 2.x is only beta? [dvnt] is anyone here running it? [phm] all new things may have unknown bugs. far better to fix the know bugs in the old version [dvnt] tru phm [mabell] aah [phm] true? [mabell] what version is most stable [dvnt] yep, tru [mabell] 1.3.20? [phm] what is tur?? [phm] er tru [mabell] true [dvnt] its true with out the e.. [phm] ohh [phm] i cant understand why [dvnt] just slang spelling I guess.. [mabell] phm, whats the most stable ver [mabell] phm, or which do u recommend [phm] no idea. i dont use it [ 12-Sep-01 19:08 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [phm] search inet [dvnt] brb.. [ 12-Sep-01 19:08 ] dvnt@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:08 ] vt@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] inet.com/ [mabell] ? [vt] internet [phm] google.com [mabell] wb vt [djm62] !w | grep splits [djm62] dam [djm62] can't do that [vt] sdf is loaded [vt] /whois vt [vt] can do that too ;) [ 12-Sep-01 19:09 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [vt] can't [phm] can. [mabell] ][ [vt] /hepl [vt] /help [celsojr] somebody says portuguese? [mabell] babelfish.altavista.com [mabell] translate there celsojr [vt] celsojr: yes, somebody, in the world [ 12-Sep-01 19:11 ] pacram@sdf has joined ny. [vt] maybe* [celsojr] vt: vc fala portugues? [vt] celsojr: not me, somebody ;) [celsojr] i'm brazilian [phm] why dont you find a portugeses server?? [celsojr] somebody here! [vt] i'm speaking russian, french and a little english [vt] speak, no speaking ;) [pacram] who vt [pacram] quit [ 12-Sep-01 19:12 ] pacram@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:12 ] juansalv@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:12 ] pacram@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey juan [ 12-Sep-01 19:12 ] petepete@sdf has joined ny. [vt] hi juan [juansalv] hi [mabell] hi [dvnt] hey pete [celsojr] hi [ 12-Sep-01 19:13 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [phm] hi [mabell] wb phm [juansalv] alguien habla espaqol [ 12-Sep-01 19:13 ] petepete@sdf has left ny. [celsojr] it wanted to know as they are the people there in NY after the attack [phm] phm = pete. [ 12-Sep-01 19:13 ] pacram@sdf has left ny. [mabell] k, sup pete [celsojr] juansalv: eu hablo apenas um poquito de spanhol [phm] nothing [phm] duh [ 12-Sep-01 19:13 ] dvnt@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] ny [mabell] hmmm [juansalv] pues nada,yo te enseqo si quieres [phm] grr [ 12-Sep-01 19:14 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [juansalv] quit [ 12-Sep-01 19:15 ] lebmd@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] so which dftpd do u think is the best [mabell] (security,speed,etc) [phm] google.com [mabell] dftpd=ftpd [vt] proftpd [mabell] google is a site, tho [phm] ask it your questions [mabell] vt, i heard proftpd has a long history of security issues [mabell] pete, huh? [vt] mabell nobody can be perfect [phm] i dont think anyone here is as reliable as google [mabell] vt, true [ 12-Sep-01 19:16 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] pete, hmm, what r they running [ 12-Sep-01 19:16 ] firecat@sdf has joined ny. [vt] was there any servers hosted in wtc ? [firecat] wowowowowow [phm] i meant for answering questions [mabell] vt, dunnno [firecat] hi everybody! [mabell] pete, ooh [firecat] mabell? [dvnt] hey cat [mabell] firecat? [mabell] - :) [firecat] azz i'm in private session with a mabell [firecat] are you?????? [mabell] u are? [firecat] ahahahahahah [firecat] of course i'm! [mabell] ok [mabell] whats up [celsojr] quit [ 12-Sep-01 19:18 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [firecat] nothing bad anfd you? [ 12-Sep-01 19:18 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [mabell] latse guys [mabell] lates [dvnt] later [firecat] later for what? [firecat] heehehehehhe [vt] ok, bye [firecat] hi dvnt [dvnt] where you been? [firecat] pint..next pub...drunk...hehehehe [firecat] that's the trail... [dvnt] sounds good [ 12-Sep-01 19:19 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [vt] sorry for what's happening to the USA, victims's families, and maybe to the entiere world soon :( [armag3do] q qe[gk[dkg [ 12-Sep-01 19:19 ] vt@sdf has left ny. [firecat] sounbds? u must try the pint...wowowowow [firecat] hi arm [ 12-Sep-01 19:20 ] armag3do has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:20 ] juansalv has left ny. [firecat] vt are u jhiad lovers? [ 12-Sep-01 19:20 ] mabell has left ny. [dvnt] I'll get right on that when I get home then.. :) [dvnt] (the pint) [firecat] i don't remmebr..where u come? [dvnt] florida [firecat] heeee heeeee [firecat] ah [firecat] take a planes and come here [firecat] bad craic [firecat] sorry [dvnt] hahahaha [djm62] he [firecat] hi dj [ 12-Sep-01 19:21 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] dj? [firecat] let the music on!!!! [firecat] cels..are you brazil? [ 12-Sep-01 19:22 ] lebmd@sdf has left ny. [firecat] heeeeheheh hehehehe [ 12-Sep-01 19:22 ] tbrowlan@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hi [firecat] cels??? whereabout brazil? [firecat] hi at the new entry [tbrowlan] hello fellow sdfers [celsojr] firecat: yes, i'm brazilian [dvnt] anyone heard anything new yet? [firecat] fellow? naaaaaaaa fellon is different! [firecat] good place..i was for two month [djm62] in prison? [firecat] intendeo? [firecat] nooo i was hide! ehhehehe [celsojr] where r u go? [ 12-Sep-01 19:24 ] piolin@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] paraiso! [dvnt] hi [celsojr] do u speak english? [firecat] good swordfish and grappa! [ 12-Sep-01 19:25 ] phm has left ny. [celsojr] sorry [firecat] im italian of course i speak english! [celsojr] do u speak portuguese? [firecat] i wish... [firecat] i know only: preto bischa [tbrowlan] hablas espanol? [firecat] pokito [celsojr] si si como no [tbrowlan] si [firecat] ahhaahhahaha [djm62] si [firecat] tb..t.v.b. [ 12-Sep-01 19:26 ] tylitalo@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:26 ] piolin@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] ha ha! [dvnt] I wasnt allowed to take spanish in school.. [firecat] sorry i wish i'd never pissed over somebody [celsojr] firecat: m/f [celsojr] ? [firecat] not bischa..Male with two ball...ops sorry three balls [tbrowlan] exit [firecat] no sorry.... [firecat] still two [firecat] type :quit [ 12-Sep-01 19:28 ] tbrowlan@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:28 ] darum@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] those pints making your vision blurry? [ 12-Sep-01 19:28 ] tbrowlan@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] weakest link is hilarious [firecat] no no....the two girls around... [ 12-Sep-01 19:28 ] girino2n@sdf has joined ny. [tbrowlan] nice. . thanks [dvnt] ahhh [firecat] dvnt u must come in dublin there's a great time! [tbrowlan] just like good ol vi [firecat] de nada tb [firecat] u cels? m/f? [girino2n] BBB:help [firecat] mad or fashion? [dvnt] maybe when they start flying planes around again i can get over there [celsojr] male! [firecat] ok no luck heheheheheeh [ 12-Sep-01 19:29 ] darum@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:29 ] aythos@sdf has left ny. [tbrowlan] anybodyanybody from newyork? [celsojr] HEHEHEHE [firecat] tb i hope everybody... [djm62] firecat- you know anywhere to stay oin dublin [firecat] cels...where are u? [dvnt] noone from ny, I dont think.. [celsojr] i'm brazilian, belo horizonte [firecat] comm down..still? [firecat] belo horizonte??????? [djm62] apparently it wasn't [ 12-Sep-01 19:31 ] tbrowlan@sdf has left ny. [celsojr] where r u? [firecat] I don't know but my preferite sex line went down...was in NY [firecat] in dublin.... [girino2n] aqui [celsojr] e ae girino [firecat] but i know a transexual in italy from belo horizonte lol [firecat] girino? [firecat] frog? [girino2n] what's lol [girino2n] ? [dvnt] its laugh out loud [firecat] ciao girino [celsojr] firecat: girino is a brazilian boy [firecat] lol mean Left Our mind Lay [firecat] hola girino [dvnt] haha [dvnt] ok then.. [firecat] dv... [dvnt] ? [firecat] give a good kiss a t the first blonde u meet [firecat] from baywatch eheheheh [girino2n] hello firekat , what's up/ [dvnt] florida is full of blondes like baywatch.. [firecat] not bad..just piss in the corner of this com [djm62] firecat: what should I see in dublin? [djm62] booking tickets tonight [firecat] i u are a girl [firecat] ME [firecat] if u are man [firecat] OTHERS [firecat] hehehehehehehee [djm62] bringing gf [ 12-Sep-01 19:35 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [firecat] bye cels [djm62] I'll ask her, but I don't think she'll be interested [djm62] ;) [firecat] married? [ 12-Sep-01 19:36 ] splits@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] gf [djm62] 2 years [splits] hello [djm62] splits [firecat] really... [splits] hey djm [firecat] i'm sad about this hehehehe [firecat] hi spit [splits] been upto anything good lately? [firecat] ops split [djm62] bugger all [splits] its ok firecat [djm62] got off work today- storms [splits] oh well same here [ 12-Sep-01 19:37 ] girino2n@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:37 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] hi [firecat] if the pub don't kall me again ehehehhe [firecat] wb cels [dvnt] ok, back now.. whew.. [ 12-Sep-01 19:37 ] girino2n@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] wb girino...son of the frog right? [celsojr] i'm a new in sdf... [celsojr] what's wb? [firecat] welcome back [girino2n] right [splits] welcome back [djm62] Welcome Back [firecat] i'm new as well... [djm62] are you? [celsojr] thanks [splits] i was going to say i hadnt seen you here before [firecat] maybe...hehehe i'm a lamer! and proud of this! [splits] and now i know i was right [firecat] i'm new here...i just try unix sys [splits] im pretty new [djm62] unix is cool [splits] yeh [splits] i agree 100% [firecat] i think everybody are new for everything...i hate elitarism stuff...make the people sad... [firecat] yeah i agree [djm62] elitism is useful [firecat] trust me..a lot of crap do.... [djm62] harsh, but fair [firecat] don't mind... [ 12-Sep-01 19:40 ] belgarat@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hi [firecat] hi belga [firecat] from belgium? [belgarat] Evening. ;) [ 12-Sep-01 19:40 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [belgarat] <--from norway. [dvnt] hi noc [djm62] noc [nociasso] hi :echo [firecat] hail to the ancient one belg [girino2n] who's from NY? [nociasso] oo:echo [firecat] type :echo [nociasso] jeeze [nociasso] i know [belgarat] fire: ;o) [firecat] and more for disable echo [nociasso] o [firecat] hi niciasso..o ciao? [nociasso] i just installed a different dist of linux and i'nm not sure oabout somethings [nociasso] nociassociatino [firecat] bad... [nociasso] nociassjdfkl [celsojr] somebody from NY? [firecat] i saw a hacked transmission...the crap leader talk about more stuff.... [nociasso] C [firecat] nociasso...where u come? [firecat] otherway from your girlfriend? [firecat] lo [firecat] l [firecat] ok ok i'm alone now... [nociasso] lare you the only one laugin:quitasdfjkllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllc no exxscape caharacter AHHHHHHHH! [firecat] heehehehe [firecat] nociasso? what u drank? [nociasso] you [firecat] I WANNA THE SAME! [ 12-Sep-01 19:44 ] hybrid@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] my preferred pub don't have [dvnt] hey hybrid [firecat] hello hybrid... [hybrid] hi [firecat] wich type of hybrid are u? [ 12-Sep-01 19:44 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [firecat] m or female? [hybrid] m, [firecat] just to know if we must be rude male or not [firecat] ok we are rude male! [firecat] hehehehe [hybrid] camed after the trance artist [ 12-Sep-01 19:45 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny for eu. [ 12-Sep-01 19:45 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [hybrid] errr named i should say [nociasso] jksdf [splits] see ya [ 12-Sep-01 19:45 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [firecat] eu? che le? [ 12-Sep-01 19:45 ] splits@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:45 ] vermifax@sdf has joined ny. [hybrid] / [ 12-Sep-01 19:46 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] /{0}"{0}:emote another corner is fill by the irish stout [dvnt] oh man.. [firecat] is not my fault1 [firecat] trust me [firecat] try the irish stout [firecat] and u'll see.... [dvnt] I'll try it [firecat] u welcome1 [firecat] but without wife...trust me! ehehehhehe [dvnt] ahh, ok then! [djm62] ach [ 12-Sep-01 19:48 ] luky@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] would be booking tickets [ 12-Sep-01 19:48 ] vermifax@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:48 ] ak1ra@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] if ryanair will let me [firecat] uhm....fake credit card? [ 12-Sep-01 19:48 ] isis@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] ryanar? [firecat] naaaaaaaaaaaaaa [firecat] let them faling down [dvnt] ak1ra [ak1ra] wasup? [firecat] hi ak1ra [dvnt] where you been man? [ 12-Sep-01 19:49 ] nociasso@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:49 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:49 ] girino2n@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] your missing out on the beer discussions.. [ak1ra] watching TV and doing homework [ak1ra] juggling th etwo [hybrid] ? [firecat] uhm better my pint! [luky] q [djm62] ? [firecat] hi sis [firecat] isisi [ 12-Sep-01 19:50 ] belgarat@sdf has left ny. [hybrid] exit [hybrid] errr [ 12-Sep-01 19:50 ] hybrid@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:50 ] isis@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] what kind of homework you have? [ak1ra] boring computing stuff [ 12-Sep-01 19:51 ] nociasso@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 19:51 ] ut@sdf has joined ny. [ak1ra] RDBMS [firecat] wb nociasso [ 12-Sep-01 19:51 ] ut@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] ahh.. homework.. I almost did some of that once.. [ak1ra] access and stuff [firecat] me too...washing machine and other stuff.... [ak1ra] MS access that is [ 12-Sep-01 19:52 ] tbrowlan@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] im getting tired.. [ 12-Sep-01 19:53 ] hybrid@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] sorry but this time was real.... [firecat] dvnt can i ask.... [dvnt] ? [firecat] WHY u are always the time in the shell? [dvnt] bored at work man.. [celica] hello [hybrid] i hear that [firecat] hi celica..like the car? [celica] a little [celica] lol :) [dvnt] cnt surf net, not allowed, but noone knows anything about unix, so I can get away with it.. [firecat] azz celica..tell me about ur engine [hybrid] exactly what i do. [celica] my poor little engine [dvnt] hey celica, you been quiet all day [firecat] ok dvnt..u are another netnerd [hybrid] also use lynx to goto sites that are blocked by the company [dvnt] nah, not really.. [celica] this has been in the back ground... im at work [firecat] what u do? [celica] tech support [celica] for EarthLink [firecat] tech? [dvnt] I play around in this shell all day.. [dvnt] haha [firecat] earthlink..was nice..i used earthlink to help some channell [firecat] dvnt..u have some problem with ur wife right? hehehehehe [dvnt] I do support for GoAmerica.. (wireless isp) [celica] im cool [dvnt] na, i aint married [firecat] wireless? uhm uhm..... [firecat] i work for HACKER FREE REPUBLIC [celica] thastlol [firecat] i was just tried the proggy of ghairi [dvnt] did you? how is it? [firecat] is just a group of pissed people...that don't believe i elite hackers and do what they want [ 12-Sep-01 19:59 ] gremgrem@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] we try to teach..what we don't know... [firecat] we don't believe in any gov [ 12-Sep-01 19:59 ] robi@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] and we believe in free internet [gremgrem] I am with you there [celica] r u sierous [firecat] i am [ 12-Sep-01 20:00 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] I meant I thought you said you tried ghirai's prog... [firecat] yeah [gremgrem] free internet, free of the carnivore that the government hass and all.... [gremgrem] its all about free internet [firecat] carnivore suck (sorry for the rude words [dvnt] no youre right it does suck [gremgrem] carnivore is just another way for the gov't to monitor us [firecat] carnivore is easy to fuck [firecat] like echelon... [ 12-Sep-01 20:01 ] celsojr@sdf has left ny. [firecat] they programmed this sucks stuff with a specific database of words... [firecat] if u write like this... [firecat] A [firecat] S [firecat] S [firecat] A [firecat] S [firecat] S [firecat] I [firecat] N [firecat] No program reconized [ 12-Sep-01 20:02 ] chiper@sdf has joined ny. [gremgrem] true or using 3's for e's and stuff [firecat] what u think? [gremgrem] and 0 for o's [gremgrem] like being a Hax0r [firecat] yes [dvnt] tru [ 12-Sep-01 20:02 ] phm@sdf has joined ny. [hybrid] m4by3 [phm] blah [firecat] i tryed for research dvnt....i don't like trojans..but [firecat] bla blas bla [firecat] hi phm [hybrid] i cant spell [phm] to many people! [ 12-Sep-01 20:03 ] triple@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] i can do black magic! heheeheh [firecat] here phm? [firecat] u like one-to-one private chat? [phm] yeah [gremgrem] send Firecat [phm] no just sdf people is ok [ 12-Sep-01 20:03 ] triple@sdf has left ny. [firecat] send? [hybrid] late [ 12-Sep-01 20:04 ] hybrid@sdf has left ny. [gremgrem] nothing, just messed up.... [firecat] uhm i don't remember the right adress...but there's a basic problem... [dvnt] firecat: tru on the trojans, jsut wanted to know what you though tof his work though. havent got to look at it yet. [firecat] if the victim haven't the MVSNCK.OCX it doesn't worrk... [firecat] i love social eng...I think is the best! [ 12-Sep-01 20:05 ] dermo345@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] hi derm [firecat] o [dvnt] most effective mthod of anything [chiper] bullblsf sSL cd .. [dvnt] hour and a half left at work.. [firecat] sorry.... [firecat] +i hate the last command to send [ak1ra] has anyone heard the sound files of people calling people up claiming to be aol and then guiding them trhrough steps to format their HDs ? [dvnt] yeah I heard one of those [firecat] fairly easy... [firecat] heheheheehehe [ak1ra] it was funny but kinda sad [firecat] if u send the most easy dos command..they are busy to do something..and u can send a lot of shit...heheheh [dvnt] i have one of a guy at a radio station calling a lady up and pretending that he was from a vibrator factory doing a recall on one that she just bought. they played it on the radio [firecat] good one [firecat] was a good bro did this..with clinton hubs... [firecat] was really funny... [dvnt] he got her to admit that she used it everyday a couple times [ 12-Sep-01 20:10 ] dermo345 has left ny. [gremgrem] in general, you can trick an AOL user into anything... [ 12-Sep-01 20:10 ] phm@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] tru.. [firecat] there's a;lways a trick [dvnt] "AOL, youre so easy to use, no wonder we're number one" [firecat] just to know... [gremgrem] well, i gotta go, for now... talk to you all later [dvnt] later grem [ 12-Sep-01 20:10 ] gremgrem@sdf has left ny. [firecat] see tom grem [firecat] free to email me... [tbrowlan] /Who [tbrowlan] /who [dvnt] use colon [tbrowlan] damn keyboard. [firecat] use the diet coke [firecat] the best virus for windows... [tbrowlan] not used to sparc keybard yet. [ 12-Sep-01 20:12 ] pietro@sdf has joined ny. [pietro] hello [dvnt] hey [firecat] ciao pietro [ 12-Sep-01 20:12 ] morganth@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] hi morgan [dvnt] hey morgan [tbrowlan] hello morgan [firecat] what the craic? [firecat] craic=fun [firecat] irish typical sentence [firecat] di dove sei pietro? [ 12-Sep-01 20:13 ] morganth@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] ahhh.. thx for translation.. [firecat] POG MHO THOIN=kiss my ass... [ 12-Sep-01 20:14 ] pietro@sdf has left ny. [firecat] just for know [firecat] lovely italian boys... [firecat] pog mo oin [firecat] something like that [ 12-Sep-01 20:15 ] gmjanes@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] i'll remember that when I come for the pints [firecat] heheheeh ok [ 12-Sep-01 20:15 ] phreaks@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] breast? uhmmmm here is the right place trust me [tbrowlan] cool [firecat] ugly face [firecat] good bra [firecat] nice arse [firecat] really slut [firecat] ehehehehhe [tbrowlan] ? [firecat] the perfect combination [dvnt] got the best of both here guys [tbrowlan] you male or female firecat? [ 12-Sep-01 20:16 ] alexlmd@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] MALE [tbrowlan] ahh. . [tbrowlan] ? [firecat] what? [firecat] ??? [firecat] u? [tbrowlan] nothing. . thought you were referring to yourself. [firecat] ahhahahahahaha [firecat] no no... [tbrowlan] makes sense now. [firecat] i talk about my last girfriend [alexlmd] quit [dvnt] that makes all the corners now.. [firecat] is our last resorse [tbrowlan] unless it's the pentagon. . [firecat] naaa the shell have a lot of corner ehehehe [firecat] uhm...sad story... [djm62] booked! [dvnt] got your tickets? [djm62] hate buying online... [firecat] what booked? [djm62] tickets to dublin [tbrowlan] sounds like plane tickets. [firecat] uhm gimme ur credit information i'll do for you... [djm62] why I was asking... [firecat] lol [tbrowlan] he he [dvnt] me too [tbrowlan] yeah. .I'll get them for ya too. [firecat] trust me i'm a honest damn boys eheheh [djm62] it's sent to my dad's hotmail account [firecat] oh my god... [tbrowlan] I'm from the sought . . you can trust an honest southern boy. [djm62] if you wanted it, [firecat] really encrypted stuff... [tbrowlan] south even. [ 12-Sep-01 20:19 ] laze@sdf has joined ny. [tbrowlan] anyone know how to get the local echo on. [djm62] use 31337 url skillz [dvnt] use :echo [djm62] ":echo" [tbrowlan] cool. . [tbrowlan] much better. [djm62] it messes up the screen [tbrowlan] thought it wa [tbrowlan] akdkd [tbrowlan] akdfjakdadkfjalsdkjfkj:quit [dvnt] hour and five minutes left at work.. [firecat] i come back in a sec... [dvnt] ok [dvnt] celica, you still there? [firecat] wowowowwo here we go again [firecat] my dear engine are you here? [dvnt] everyone is so quiet today.. [ 12-Sep-01 20:25 ] alexlmd has left ny. [dvnt] as compared to yesterday.. [ 12-Sep-01 20:25 ] tbrowlan has left ny. [firecat] i don't know.. [djm62] firecat: are there link cash machines in dublin? [dvnt] you got a site at firecat.freeshell? [firecat] yeah [firecat] no only stealt [ 12-Sep-01 20:27 ] culprit@sdf has joined ny. [djm62] ? [firecat] www.shadowguild.too.it [gmjanes] quit [celica] celica.fre [dvnt] oh thats right, sorry, forgot.. [celica] celica.freeshell.org [celica] i put up a few pics of the WTC [firecat] u are free? [firecat] m/f? [celica] i ame maile and free [celica] lol [djm62] why you so interested firecat [celica] i cant type [celica] i am mail [djm62] you've asked everyone, you horny dog [ak1ra] the associated press will have you for posting those [firecat] maile? [celica] yes [firecat] naaa naaa [ 12-Sep-01 20:28 ] igor0694@sdf has joined ny. [firecat] horny cat! hahahahaa [djm62] meow! [firecat] just to know wich address do! [dvnt] hahaha! hey igor [ 12-Sep-01 20:29 ] celsojr@sdf has joined ny. [igor0694] hey [celsojr] hi [ 12-Sep-01 20:29 ] mvv@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] hi firecat [firecat] dj...try this bone...eheheheh [dvnt] wb mvv [firecat] hola cels [ 12-Sep-01 20:29 ] laze@sdf has left ny. [culprit] hay [ 12-Sep-01 20:30 ] gmjanes has left ny. [celsojr] where r u from, igor? [firecat] hi cul [ak1ra] this isnt a picture of shaun LOL [igor0694] fron brazil [ 12-Sep-01 20:30 ] evilbob@sdf has joined ny. [culprit] q [celsojr] i'm too [celsojr] echo [ 12-Sep-01 20:30 ] evilbob@sdf has left ny. [firecat] echo??? echo echo echo echo [igor0694] my ingles is very bad [celsojr] igor: d q lugar do brasil? [ 12-Sep-01 20:31 ] maestro@sdf has joined ny. [maestro] Hi all. [dvnt] hey [ 12-Sep-01 20:31 ] mvv@sdf has left ny. [igor0694] vc e brasil [celsojr] my english is very bad too [firecat] my english as well... [dvnt] me too [firecat] ciao maestro... [igor0694] celsojr vc i brasileiro [igor0694] ] [celsojr] igor: de q lugar vc eh? [igor0694] porto alegre [celsojr] sou de BH [igor0694] tu ve tem brasileiro por tudo [firecat] why happy? [celsojr] plus some Brazilian for here? [igor0694] vc esta em bh? [celsojr] igor: eh mesmo, concordo com vc [firecat] this is a brazilian shell? [firecat] lol [ 12-Sep-01 20:33 ] djm62@sdf has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 20:33 ] morganth@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] what's lol? [firecat] SLAINTE' [firecat] LOL is i'm laugh! [firecat] is the third time i told u! [celsojr] thanks [dvnt] haha! [ 12-Sep-01 20:35 ] culprit has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 20:35 ] tylitalo has left ny. [igor0694] cara to tri perdido aqui [ 12-Sep-01 20:35 ] morganth@sdf has left ny. [celsojr] pq? vc eh novo por aki? [igor0694] pior que sim [firecat] aqui? o preto bischa venido li [ 12-Sep-01 20:35 ] thefiend@sdf has joined ny. [dvnt] hey fiend [thefiend] hello [firecat] hi fiend [celsojr] firecat: nao se diz bisha e sim BICHA [thefiend] how Don't know how I got in here, trying to learn Unix [ 12-Sep-01 20:36 ] osmosis@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] igor: vc com calma aprende [igor0694] hehe [thefiend] So I'm ending up in all sorts of places [dvnt] where you from fiend? [thefiend] US [celsojr] igor: no inicio eh meio complicado, mas depois vc vai acostumando, tem qto tempo q vc usa o sdf? [ 12-Sep-01 20:38 ] maestro@sdf has left ny. [thefiend] I'll see you folks later, got more things I've got to try [igor0694] 1 dia [dvnt] tru, where at though? (florida, for me) [thefiend] q [celsojr] onde day? [celsojr] hehehehe [thefiend] QUIT [firecat] ok sorry but i must go...pint wait me...see tom [celsojr] vai demorar mais q eu esperava pra vc aprender as paradas [ 12-Sep-01 20:38 ] firecat@sdf has left ny. [dvnt] you need to type :quit [ 12-Sep-01 20:38 ] thefiend@sdf has left ny. [igor0694] pois i [celsojr] bye firecat [ 12-Sep-01 20:39 ] qc@sdf has joined ny. [celsojr] qtods anos vc tem? [igor0694] 21 [celsojr] soh [celica] que pasa [qc] hola celica [celsojr] celica: hablas portuguese ou espanhol? [qc] de donde eres? [osmosis] hola a todos [celsojr] hola osmosis [qc] hola osmosis [ 12-Sep-01 20:40 ] chiper has left ny. [ 12-Sep-01 20:40 ] rudiment@sdf has joined ny. [ 12-Sep-01 20:40 ] rudiment@sdf has left ny. [celsojr] somebody here speak portuguse or spanish? [celica] hablo espanol un poco... pero soy portuguese [celica] lol [igor0694] haha [qc] lol [celsojr] celica: i'm brazilian [osmosis] yo hablo castellano