From: Doug Roberts (doug@nolimits.demon.co.uk)

John Purdey of Union Pictures -producer of the upcoming Roswell documentary `Secret History:The Incident at Roswell' to be shown on August 28th across the globe- was interviewed on 25th July 1995 on the Tommy Boyd Show, Talk Radio UK.

This is a transcript of the proceedings...


TB [Tommy Boyd] -

If this film really is the film of a visitor from another planet undergoing an autopsy:

1> What do we do?
2> What do they want?
3> What do we do with our old Bibles?
4> What are the philosophical ramifications of this film?

Now if it's false. If we decide that it's a hoax:

1> Do we prosecute the purpertrators. Is this harmless fun? I've seen a couple of still photographs frfom the film. I haven't seen the film yet, and it's pretty harrowing.

If it's a hoax,

2> Does this mean that all the ideas of life in space are permanently debunked? Or should we continue to keep an open mind. Or should we put these ideas behind us and concentrate what goes on on our planet, in our own country, in our own homes?
3> Listen to this: No less than 500,000 American people believe that they have been abducted by aliens; examined; interfered with in certain ways to do with reproduction; and returned home. Oblivious of what's happened to them, until they started getting headaches, various other symptons; and then under hypnosis, discovered what happened to them.

So what are the psychological ramifications of this whole shooting match?

There that's said, and I stick by it. This is the story that really is one to make you stop and think like no story you have heard before.

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TB - Hello John.
JP - Hello.
TB - How are you?
JP - I'm fine thanks.
TB - This is going to stir up a hornets nest
JP - Ah..HaHa I guess so. Yeah.
TB - I've only been able to see a couple of stills from the film which were in one of the national newspapers.
JP - Ah..ha.
TB - But that newspaper -a very responsible one in my book- went so far to say that they found the whole thing pretty convincing. Are you convinced?
JP - Umm.. Well the jury's still out as far as I'm concerned. I mean, we're investigating the uh film's credentials as it were, right now. It's quite a serious investigation, because the outcome has very serious consequencies. So I'm err.. The film is absolutely entralling -there's no doubt about that- it's quite an astonishing piece of footage. But whether it's genuine footage of an autopsy taking place on an alien, or whether it's a very clever and elaborate hoax, that's precisely what we're looking into.
TB - Well we're all going to be sat on our seats on August 28th watching it. Can you give us some idea of what we're going to see?
JP - Umm..Well. Basically what you're going to see is..and you know our documentary which is a very serious study of a fascinating event, doesn't revolve entirely around this footage which has surfaced recently. Our documentary is a comprehensive and detailed look at the Roswell incident. Which is a remarkable story in its own right. You'll meet all the principle witnesses who were there at the time, or some who subsequently were involved in the story for different reasons. And they will give their testimony -and we don't take any sides in any way, we try to present it in a very objective way- and you will meet people who umm..allege that a spacecraft crashed outside Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
We also explore in the film some possible alternative explanations as to what it could have been, if these people are mistaken. But I have to say, that research over the years has uncovered about 200 witnesses -who in one form or another say it was certainly a spacecraft, and there were bodies recovered- so it's kind of difficult for a start, to ignore that amount of testimony.
We will also be showing the umm..so called alien autopsy footage, and some other footage that goes with that. You will see that and you will hear some explanation of the origin of that. You will hear an interview with Mr. Ray Santilli, the man who discovered this footage. And we're hoping -but I can't promise it yet- that we may have an interview with the cameraman that shot it.
TB - And that's what I wanted to ask you. Who is that person, and how come this film is public domain. And how come it's taken until 1995 for it to get into circulation?
JP - Well three questions there. The cameraman wishes -for the time being- that his identity remains secret, because he doesn't welcome the attendant publicity he's going to get if his name were to come out. But I can tell you, generally, that he's a man in his early 80's; he has been a news-cameraman most of his life; and back in 1947 he err..was a military cameraman.
The err.. reason that that film has surfaced quite recently is, it was discovered -as I understand it- just over a year ago, by Ray Santilli of Merlin Films. Who was researching in America and looking for some early archieve footage on Pop singers and Rock-n-Roll stars. And he was introduced to this cameraman -who was a news-cameraman over the years- that aquired some footage in that area. Ray Santilli bought some footage from him and then the cameraman said `Well, I've got something which is quite extraordinary, I don't know if you know anything about it, and I don't know if you'd be interested'. And told him about the Roswell incident, which Santilli had not heard of before. And he projected on the wall of his house, the alien autopsy footage. He offered Santilli quite a few cans of film, most of which has yet not been seen because the film was in a very bad state of repair. There's only three scenes which so far it's possible to project -as I understand it. And we'll be including those scenes in our film.
TB - Now, John. This is either a monster hoax..
JP - Yah.
TB - ..of the same proportions as the Hitler Diaries which..
JP - Yah.
TB - ..saw people going to prision.
JP - Yah.
TB - Or something for us to get our head around, which is the biggest new concept since evolution. Correct?
JP - Yeah. Exactly. There's nothing in between.
TB - No.
JP - It's either an extremely, and I can tell you from seeing the film, that if it's a hoax it's a very elaborate one and quite sophisticated.
TB - You say..
JP - Or as you say, it's you know, the story of the millenium.
TB - Yeah. You say that you've taken the film to the manufacturers and asked them to date it. And what have they said?
JP - Well I didn't do that. The people at Merlin took it to Kodak, because there are code numbers on the side of the film. And Kodak looked at these code numbers, they looked up their manuals -they keep very tight records- and they said `We can tell from the code on the film, that this is either 1927, 1947 -which was the year of the Roswell incident- or 1967. Because we use this particular code every twenty years. But after '67 we stopped using it. However, we don't feel -as a producer of a documentary I don't feel- that that's good enough, just to try and find out what the year of the film is. Because for obvious reasons you could find, lying in a garage or wherever, some old film stock which is still usable, and go out and shoot it today. That wouldn't mean the images on it go back to the origin of the film stock. It would mean they go back as far as the day when you exposed them. So we are asking Kodak, and they've agreed to do this for us. They are going to try through quite a difficult process, to examine the residual chemicals that are in that film. And to see if they can pin- point when the film was actually exposed and processed.
TB - This chap whose taken the film. He presumably still owns the copyright to the film.
JP - No. He's sold that.
TB - He's sold it to you?
JP - No. He's sold it to Merlin Productions. Ray Santilli's company. The people who found the film.
TB - Do we have any idea whether he made a fortune out of that sale. Or whether he's simply sort of covered himself for the rest of his years. He's in his early 80's, but lets hope he lives to be 100?
JP - I don't know..
TB - No.
JP - I honestly, honestly don't know the answer to that..
TB - No. You don't know the answer.
JP - ..That's a private matter.
TB - It's a factor isn't it though.
JP - Oh absolutely. Oh..What I know to be err..to be the case. And what I'm told is, that he..there's nothing else, as far as the transaction between the cameraman and Merlin Productions is concerned, it's simply a commercial deal. The man was..He's not very wealthy, I'm told. And he felt sufficent time had gone past. And he felt he had met, by chance, the right person who might be interested. So all he was interested in was realising an asset that was sitting in the corner gathering dust. So he did it for money.
TB - And your film is being shown, more-or-less, around the world at more-or- less the same time.
JP - As? .. Oh I see.. Yes..Yes..Yah..Yah.
TB - Are they goin to be watching over their breakfast in Tokyo?
JP - I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that it's being shown first of all on Channel 4. We acquired the part of this alien footage for our film. But our film was already scheduled to go out on Channel 4's Sci-Fi Weekend -which starts on 26 August and goes through to 28th. This footage came along at an opportune time. It's very exciting stuff to have. I won't deny that. But our film was sheduled and in place, and we were continuing with our investigation of the Roswell incident; you know well in place before this film turned up. And I understand since then, American television and some other countries are interested very much, of course, in the alien autopsy film. But they won't be showing it before we do.
TB - And the documentary's called?
JP - The documentary is called Secret History:The Incident at Roswell.
TB - Thanks for taking John.
JP - That's the 28th August. Thanks very much.
TB - 28th August.
JP - Bye.
TB - Nice to talk to you.
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