Well folks, there is always two sides to every coin and at UFO Folklore we print em all. Thats right. I dont take sides here and I dont play favorites. Unless your Bill Cooper or John Lear, you can usually find a place at UFO Folklore to share your own personaly research. Tonite we have more from Grant Cameron. This one features the flip side of the aleged book being held up by our friends in the Government. If you have any issues with this topic please send them to Grant Cameron.

To: Dan

Many months ago a message was posted mentioning that Moore and Shandera were putting out a new book on the UFO coverup. The folklore and history of the new book is that it's not a new book at all. It's been around an promised for 15 years.

My version leaves out some of the uglier aspects of the story such as this book being promised a couple years back, and many people losing money.

It is told by someone who was there at the start and has no axe to grind. Dan if your know the entire folklore of this upcoming book, you realize that an earthshaking book may be on it's way - but you also realize there's as good a chance you'll be long dead and gone before this book ever sees the light of day.

It has been reported that a new book called " Exempt from Disclosure " by Bill Moore and Jamie Shandera is due for release but is being held up by " Uncle Sam." It is assumed that this will be a recounting of Moore and Shandera's experiences with Gov't sources telling their versions of the classified aspects of gov't UFO research efforts.

This, however, is not the first time that Moore and the gov't sources have teamed up to tell the story of the cover-up.

What follows is sections of an interview conducted by myself Dec.28,88 with Mr. Bob Pratt, former reporter for the National Enquirer, and co-author of the first book with Bill Moore. As background, it should be stated that most Ufologists around in the late 70s and early 80s knew Bob Pratt. Pratt had one thing most Ufologists didn't have - money. When Pratt pursued a story he simple got on a plane, and flew to the spot of the story with tape recorder in hand. If he needed photographs taken, he called the head office, and flew in a photographer. If a story continued to develop, Pratt would fly in as many times as it took. He was very sharp, and shared much of his findings with interested researchers.

C- Grant Cameron
P- Bob Pratt

C: I have a couple questions for you on Bill Moore, if you are willing to help me, seeing you knew Moore before anyone else.

P: Well...I know something about him.

C: When did you first meet Moore?

P: I first met him at a MUFON Conference in Houston-Clear Lake City.

C: I guess I could look that up.

P: 1979,I think. I can't remember.

C: About the time he was publishing the Roswell Incident?

P: I think it was after that, because I think he had some books there. I knew him from the book of course, but I remember talking to him and he suggested a joint project - the two of us could get together on. I had no idea what at the time. He was looking into something that he called " Lincoln's Air Force " -Abraham Lincoln's Air Force during the civil war which was a fasinating little thing, but we never ran that thing down. we did discuss doing something on the zone of silence in Mexico. We actually didn't do anything for a couple years - - just sort of kept in touch you know...then...

C: When did the Project Aquarius thing start?

P: that's what I'm trying to think. I made a trip to Houston in January 82 I think...lets see...maybe it was January 81...82 I think because John Schuessler and I had agreed to write a book on the Cash/Landrum case. I made a long trip up thro' Birmingham up to Indianapolis to Little Rock, and then to Houston. Mostly talking to people related to the Cash/Landrum case. While I was in Houston... I think I had talked to Bill by phone. He said he wanted me to come out to Arizona and talk to me about something that he couldn't talk about on the phone. So, I got on a plane in Houston, left my car there, flew to Phoenix, rented a car, and drove out to Prescott. Bill was flat on his back in bed, and he told me he had a lot of inside information...ah...he had gotten from a secret source - not a secret source - but anyway a confidential source. He never identified the person as such, but later on he hinted it was Richard Doty down in Albequerque. Anyway, I took a lot of notes at the time, I didn't have a tape recorder with me that I recall. A lot of it had to do with Project Aquarius, MJ-12, and a lot of other things. I don't remember what all now. That was the beginning of it January 82, and I can't remember now.

We finally agreed that we couldn't prove any of this stuff...and write a non-fiction book...so we agreed to write a novel...put all this crap in there -you know - and pass it off as fact described as fiction - that type of idea. That's what we eventually agreed to do, and went ahead and did. He sent me some more material in the way of notes and things and I was going to do the writing. I think later that year he came down here to Florida - he and a young friend of his. I can't think of his name now, but Bill's inlaws at that time were in Boca which is only 20 miles south of here, so he combined a visit with me. I think he had a US Air Pass that would let him fly anywhere for 300 bucks in a month or something of that nature. He was travelling around on one of those cheapy deals. He came down here and spent the night at my place, and we talked for quite a bit - about the book you know and what we could do _the general plot of the novel - and this and that and everything else - things that we could throw in there. I wrote the first draft of the whole thing, sent it to him, and he sent it back. I think Oct of 83 or 84...I can't remember say 83. I went out to Los Angeles and had an extra copy of the book. We went over the whole thing literally sentence by sentence - the final revision on it. He took all that and clapped out a final version. Then we made a few more changes after that. He sent me a copy and I wanted it called MJ-12, or IAC or something like that. He wanted it called Project Aquarius. To me that was kind of dumb. Project Aquarius was kind of an old word by then. Since he had already published a couple of books, and had an agent, we left it with his agent. I heard from him three times over the next five to six months and I think in June or July 84 was the last time I ever heard from him, and nobody was interested in the book. I have not heard from Bill since then in person, in writing, or by phone. I get his mailings you know - trying to sell stuff that he's peddling. Does that answer any questions?

C: And as far as you could tell the information was coming from Doty?

P: That's the indication that I got. He never came out and said Doty was the man. Now, it turns out that there was a third silent co-author in this book, and he gave me the impression that it was Doty. The manuscript was submitted to him for approval, and the initial draft came back - one of the chapters was devoted to that incident up there...Rapid City.. Ellsworth AFB...you know about the missile silo?

C; Ya.

P: Ok...how did I get on this?

C: The approval by the third author.

P: Ok. Now we used...I used that in one of the early chapters. The Ellsworth thing as part of the overall thing, and the manuscript came back with a lot of interesting technical details put into there such as weapons and squads, and things of that nature. This supposedly came from Doty. whether it did or not, I don't know. Hold on one second... when all this MJ-12 controversy came up a few months back , I took a look at the copy of the final edition. At the bottom of the title page I just realized is where it's written " written with the cooperation and assistance of Ronald L. Davis." I don't know who the hell that is. The alterate title here is " IAC Conspiracy " - you know the Identified Alien Crafts.

There's something very screwy about this guy ( Moore )because you know I met Shandera when I went out there with the final manuscript, but he was introduced simply as a friend. Not as someone who's deeply in UFOs. Certainly not as one who was investigating the MJ-12 thing. Shandera claimed in that T.V. show ( UFO Cover-up...Live ) .. I think he said he'd been into it since 1982, and I was surprized to hear that because Bill never ,mentioned that Shandera was into the MJ-12 investigation. Secondly the MJ-12 document arrived in Dec.84 and this was just four or five months after I had last heard from Bill about the novel. That information would have strengthened our so called novel, and I never heard from him again ever since then.

C: ( relates the Lee Graham story on Moore showing him intelligence I.D.,the two different presidential documents one with Aztec and a live alien, and one without Aztec and the live alien )

P: Moore was telling me about the live alien way back then. I went thro' my files on this novel a couple months ago. There was something in there that indicated that Moore was talking about MJ-12 as early as 1981. What I'm curious about is has he ( Moore ) in any of his public statements since releasing this last year.. has he ever mentioned that he was working on a novel about this?

C; Yes. Moore and Shandera say that they're putting together a book.

P: On What?

C: On their experiences with 10 deep throats.

P: No, but what I'm saying is have you ever heard him say that he had written a novel on MJ-12 before receiving the MJ-12 document?

C: No. This is why I was so amazed you had mentioned writing a Project Aquarius Book with him. the rest of the interview concerns Doty, Bennewitz, and who Pratt thinks are the government/scientist people are who are on the inside.



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