.. from where it was originally copied.
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Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:49:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: .@Arl-Mail-Svc-1.compuserve.com, <@compuserve.com@mbox.vol.it>
To: giboc@mbox.vol.it
Subject: Copyright Infringement
Sir, I notice that your site contains a considerable number of Standard
MIDI files. As a
commercial MIDI file production company I have been asked by a number
of copyright
protection bodies and music publishers to visit such sites to inform
you that the material
you are offering is infringing the copyright of the principle copyright
owner. I.e.., the
music publishers. They have requested me to inform you that all infringing
material must
be removed within the next seven (7) days. If you fail to comply with
their request I shall
notify them of your continuing offence and refusal to remove them.
Failure to comply
with this request will result in legal proceedings being taken against
you. For further
information and clarification of international copyright law it is
suggested you contact
your local copyright protection society / music publisher directly.
Thank you for your
attention. Dave Clackett CEO Hands On MIDI Software Limited - UK /
Hands On MIDI
Software Incorporated - US.
Date: 27 Sep 96 04:34:58 EDT
From: Dave Clackett <76711.3405@CompuServe.COM>
To: Jed Shlackman
Subject: Re: Copyright Infringement
Dear Jed,
Thank you for your prompt response. We are well aware of AOL's constant
infringement and they have been notified of theseriousness of their actions
(or rather in-action). FYI The Music Publishers are quite annoyed with
so many sites offering theirworks for free - even the bad home made affairs.
Promoting such activities is considerably damaging to legitimate andlicenced
producers who derive their income from such material. While I can see the
popularity with MIDI files the publishersare quite entrenched in their
position to remove as much un-licensed material as possible. IF, and I
stress IF everybodyplayed fair, professional quality data could be sold
for as little as $1.00 per song and everyone would be happy and still makea
living. Unfortunately many sites are acting in ignorance of the true facts
and the damage they are doing. I understand yourservice supplies links
to other sites and I ask you to understand our predicament. In law (apparently)
you could still be liablefor some redress as, ( a major site) you are actively
aiding the infringement process. I'll see what the publishers have to say
onthe matter and I'll get back to you. Thanks once again for a speedy and
mature response.
Dave Clackett
Aug 26 1996...With deep regret I have no choice but to remove all the files that were located here. Seems that vast majority were piratedcopies of midi songs that businesses have created for clients and by my having these files here it was only aiding in the loss of revenues tothese businesses.
I would like to thank all those people who took the time to help
me when I was archiving midis here. And all those that subscribed to my
midilist.
For those of you that make midis yourself and would like to have them
posted here with reference to you that can be arranged. If you havemidi
files that are not copyrighted send em to me. I will slowly weed through
the files I have, over 2000, and see if I can get some of them backup.
But this will take some time.
I truly enjoyed all the email with compliments on these pages. And
I would like to continue offering this but I have to take it slowly and
makesure what I have available is free.
I again thank you all for your continued support. Don't give up on
these pages completely, they are down for now but hopefully soon, with
alittle effort and some help from you we can get them back up shortly.
So like I said if you have any to submit just let me know.Music is a very
important part of my life and I enjoy offering this to the public and would
like to get this back up as soon as possible. We stillhave quite a few
people subscribing to the midi list. Those interested can join..instructions
on the main page...and we can use this for a forumfor midi discussion.
Any Ideas for new pages you would like to see..send me an email...I
have alot of empty space to fill.
My Sincere Apologies--
Rick Baker
MIDI MADNESS
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From: "Guido Struben"
To: "Gianni Bocchi"
Subject: Re: Copyright INFO
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:15:15 -0600
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Unfortunately, I'm not a lawyer so I don't fully understand this copyrightissue.
I think this is the way it works:
If you create all your own MIDI files then the only copyright infringement
that I can think of would be an infringement against the musical artist
that has a copyright on his song.
For example, if you sequence "Beat It" by Michael Jackson
without obtaining
permission from him, then you'd be infringing on his copyright.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:03:38 +0200
To: Gianni Bocchi
From: Klaus Thormann Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Copyright INFO
At 11.51 29/09/96 -0500, you wrote:>Gianni,
>
Forget the notice and continue serving the midi files. While midi files
ARE
copyrighted as soon as they are written, it doesn't mean that you can
not
place them online for others to enjoy. Also... take a look at this...
The
letter you got was a hoax...
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 02:03:38 +0200
To: Gianni Bocchi
From: Klaus Thormann Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Copyright INFO
Dear Mr Bocchi:
As far as I see your problem, it has something to do with
the contents of your midifiles. You are too good at creating your files
-
they are too similar to the original pieces of music, and you charge
money,
as far as I understood your homepage. I believe that you are a victim
of a
new problem. You have not told who is claiming copyright to your files.
Even
if you created your files yourself, the composer still owns the rights
to
his work. As a musician and composer I'm aware of the problem, but
I'm not
the greedy kind of person. I know, that people might "steal"
my
compositions, I can do the same if I wish!! :-) Your problems start
in USA,
where they have too many lawyers, trying to create an income on doubtfull
cases. Relax - and let them take the initiative. The spin does not
stick to
normal rules. As long as you have had your own hands on the music,
and you
haven't copied directly - I doubt they can claim any rights. But it's
a
matter located in the grey zone, and I'm no expert. Remove the charges
from
your homepage - that's my advice!
Kindest regards from Klaus Thormann
- Basement Music - Denmark.
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:21:41 +1000
To: Gianni Bocchi
From: Zach
Subject: Re: Copyright INFO
The best way i see it is to put on your web page a brief statement
of
copyright agreement. That way you don't infringe any copyright.
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Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 11:51:02 -0500
To: Gianni Bocchi
From: Dave W Schmid
Subject: Copyrights...
Gianni,
Forget the notice and continue serving the midi files. While midi files
ARE
copyrighted as soon as they are written, it doesn't mean that you can
not
place them online for others to enjoy. Also... take a look at this...
The
letter you got was a hoax...
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This IS NOT A VALID RETURN E-MAIL ADDRESS.... If this was for real,
you
would be able to reply to the e-mail address listed... In this case,
there
is no e-mail address, only a domain name. They use compuserve because
it
looks official.
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:49:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: .@Arl-Mail-Svc-1.compuserve.com, <@compuserve.com@mbox.vol.it>
Again... no e-mail address for a reply. Do you really think that whoever
visited your site is keeping track of which ones he sent e-mail too?
To: giboc@mbox.vol.it
Subject: Copyright Infringement
Sir, I notice that your site contains a considerable number of Standard
MIDI files. As a commercial MIDI file production company I have been
asked
by a number of copyright protection bodies and music publishers to
visit
such sites to inform you that the material you are offering is infringing
the copyright of the principle copyright owner. I.e.., the music publishers.
If this was the case, they would have called you personally, or sent
e-mail
from a company domain.... Copyright holders have plenty of money to
do this
'scam' realistically by having some sort of domain name like ... hmmm...
BMI.com? or ASCAPP.com... Those are the people that inforce copyrights...
They have requested me to inform you that all infringing material must
be
removed within the next seven (7) days. If you fail to comply with
their
request I shall notify them of your continuing offence and refusal
to
remove them.
7 days?
infringing material. 7 days? Ha... It takes months for things like
that to
happen. If this was for real, you would have received more than that
time... What would happen if you were out of town for 8 days? Would
they
sue you? :-)
Failure to comply with this request will result in legal proceedings
being
taken against you. For further information and clarification of
international copyright law it is suggested you contact your local
copyright protection society / music publisher directly. Thank you
for your
attention.
If this guy was real... he would have given you the source of the copyright
protection. At least a snippet, or URL to visit.
Dave Clackett CEO Hands On MIDI Software Limited - UK / Hands On MIDI
Software Incorporated - US.
Where is his e-mail address?
Of course, if you deleted his e-mail address for his protection, it
MIGHT
be a different story... but I think they are pulling your leg. Wait
seven
days and see what happens!
spend the money for this? And if they do... Blink.. it's gone.
Besides, if you have permission to place those files online, it's your
right. You can distribute those files anyway you want... Besides, you
don'
thave any midi's ON YOUR PAGE! :-) If I got that letter, I would think
it
was a prank. There is NOTHING LEGAL ABOUT E-MAIL as a form of legal
action.
You can only do such things through the (Federal mind you) snail mail,
phone calls, etc...
Sorry that you had to get the scare. I'll let you know if I get any
fun
mail like you.
Enjoy!
Dave